Is The New Land Rover Discovery ACTUALLY BETTER Than A $5000 14-Year-Old LR3??

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On this episode of The Fast Lane Car we compare two generations of Land Rover Discovery to see how they improved. In this video we look at the features and cool things that have changed between the 2006 Discovery 3 and brand new Land Rover Discovery 5.
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[@garyblatt8925]

Awesome work Tommy! Great comparison for the two trucks and most of all, I feel confident that you are the new replacement for Clarkson's wonderful snark in car reviews. So does this mean that Nathan is the new "Captain Slow" but without all the hair?

[@shekharmoona544]

It would be cool to see Tommy and the crew do a long range mission. See how they react to the chaos that ensues. It would be expensive. They would might need film licensing from other states, drone footage, Car support, fuel expenses etc.

[@lexithelexus7377]

Really nice video!

[@samjohnson9894]

Dude. You're outside your mind. Chad will never eclipse the 'JC'. PLUS...JC never had to hide the truth to stay in the good graces of manufacturers. Like Chad (and his father) does.

[@charlesluckyluciano5174]

the new one is more luxury ... I prefer the old one that feels k you go up the military tank and it makes you feel empowered

[@AustinH7]

Shekhar Moona it’s funny how to called these trucks. Especially the new one Hahahah

[@paulog8813]

The “useless cubby” on the LR3 is actually a cup holder. Just push it, and will pop out. My LR3, also have the fridge under the armrest, the screen on the center, a flat back seat floor and the rear seats air conditioner with the head vents and vents for the third row. Also in the LR3 you can configure the remote control to lower the air suspension in one button, so loading cargo is easy. As you imagine, the back of two back seat is black on mine. Old LR3s are much tougher than the new ones. His only problem is the weakness of the suspension of the air bags. For me the LR4 is the last truly Land Rover Discovery. Actually for me, nowadays Land Rover is producing only one model, just in different sizes. Old model all day long.

[@Legoguy1979]

The downside of the remote being programmed with the air suspension is you have to turn on the hazards. Also, it appears their 2nd row seats dont fold forward.

[@krover01]

The last true Discovery was the D2!!

[@Legoguy1979]

@@krover01 there is always one of you guys isn't there? I think the D3/ lr3 D4/lr4 Facebook page would like to disagree with you on that the DII was the last discovery.

[@jackprick9797]

@@Legoguy1979 Both 2nd and 3rd row seats fold forward. The 2nd row seats do not recline though.

[@Legoguy1979]

@@jackprick9797 I think I didn't convet what I was saying correctly. In my 06 LR3 it came factory with 7 seats. In the video they only show the back of the 2nd row seat going forward. In mine is goes flat then there's a handle on the bottom corner where it disconnects the rear of the seat allowing it to pivot on the front of the seat allowing it to flip forward for easier access into the 3rd row.

[@tritchie6272]

To me the old one looks more offroad worthy.

[@jonessabrina48]

Yep

[@lexithelexus7377]

yep! feels less bad when you scrap it too

[@razrv3lc]

Does that really matter though?

[@rickgreenhalgh1357]

I drove one of the new ones on a purpose built course, it just felt a bit wrong and too automatic. Very capable though. Oh and I don't like the back seats, they're too low so your knees are right up.

[@selebalotsiu7139]

I agree

[@abymathew295]

WE WISH THERE WAS AN OFF-ROAD TEST AS WELL...

[@trlalli92]

Aby Mathew wow this needs to be the top comment. Wouldn’t have watched if I had known 🙄

[@abymathew295]

@@trlalli92 , 😊😊

[@mvtx87]

Yes!

[@lowfatedes]

Or even a road test..

[@zelenizub2036]

This review should have been done in its natural habitat, mall parking lot.😞

[@ahmadfaisal6778]

LR3 still looks beautiful.

[@creamdisco]

The LR3 is a classic. Awesome truck.

[@DJoA]

@Antonio Zamudio 4x4

[@rossthercguy554]

creamdisco it is the best 4x4xfar

[@kubuswalenda]

@Tony LR3 is not SUV. It's much more then this ! :)

[@marcnobel3938]

When you see them side by side it`s quite shocking what happened to the Discovery. The older looks way better than the new one, which now looks similar to a lot of other SUVs.

[@abymathew295]

LR Discovery 4 is my all-time favorite Land Rover Ever...

[@abymathew295]

@Jude M , i really envy you...the space, seating position, presence, off roadabiliti, comfort,...everything is perfect in it..😍

[@DJoA]

@Vladimir Putin i"ve got the same :) just love it. SDV6 HSE with the BMW motor :)

[@razrv3lc]

I love the LR4. Ive been shopping for a new vehicle and keep looking at the 2016 LR4 but I keep getting slightly worried about reliability so I look at the Discovery Sports because I never hear anything about reliability issues. Plus you can get newer Discovery Sports with a lot less miles for the same price or even cheaper than an older LR4 with a substantial amount of miles

[@DJoA]

@@razrv3lc i understand, but the sport is not the same like a lr4 (or lr5)... it's to small...

[@MrGamester59]

I had Discovery3, HSE ,followed by a Range Rover Sport HSE, now the last of the Discovery 4 STDV 6 HSE all diesels, but by far my all time favourite is the Disco 3 followed by the Disco 4. This one is a keeper. All the new ones have lost their personality they blend with the current so called modern roundness, it is a pity.

[@majorcalvary6515]

I still like the boxy look of the older LR.

[@MrLeonardodv]

old one is more beautiful, has it`s own style and looks so cool. Latest models look like a sh....t not like off-road car but chinese SUV

[@samuelgoncalves5628]

MrLeonardodv i don’t feel like its a chinese one but it does look different

[@botian55]

which model of Chinese SUVs do you think looks like Range Rover?

[@wispywonder1650]

$5k vs $50k. I'd be happy with cheaper interior plastics.

[@steel4858]

Well said 👍👍👍

[@mikeb53]

I've had a Disco 5. 3.0 SDV6 HSE spec. It's not like riding in a previous discovery. The driving position is shit. It feels like a regular car that grew out of proportion. The interior is basically a cut and paste from the range rover it doesnt have that distinct feel to it. Even uses the same steering wheel. Cant fault the ride and comfort but aesthetically... and the driving position it just didnt do it for me. When the lease was up I refused to have another. So I bought a facelifted "LR4" or discovery 4. And I'm much happier with that in every conceivable way. And the rear load space I dont care what they say is much better on the disco 4 than the disco 5. I'm sorry to say that the disco 5 really isnt an improvement over its predecessor. Having had both, this is my personal feelings.

[@shaunbava1801]

I have both a disco 3 and a 5. I wish they didn't b*stardize the car but they've even done the same with the Range Rover. The Disco 5 is almost exactly the same car as the Range Rover L405, neither feel much like a landrover anymore and Tata's quality control is terrible. Sit in a L322 Range and the new L405 you can feel the difference, one feels very English, it sits up high, huge windows, etc and the other feels like any other luxury SUV. The problem is the LR3/4 is an old car now and Rovers do not hold up well, the cost to repair is prohibitive and for certain things rover really made it difficult to fix them.

[@tommygearhart4651]

I own both these SUVs. I drive the LR3 and my wife has the Disco 5. Love them both. The tech in the new car is great and the old car even at 14 years old, is confidence inspiring to drive.

[@robertshuster1219]

The "swoop" in the tailgate is so you can have cover in the rain if you want to sit on the tailgate

[@Ipadsss]

The back of the new discovery makes me physically sick.

[@roby99]

Ipadsss exactly

[@user-ud9ct8xg1t]

Old Much more agressive

[@albertdesalvo7273]

Me too...reminds me of a fat-arsed chick I used to hump.

[@faizalsumun1850]

I like the new discovery

[@Ipadsss]

No you don’t. @@faizalsumun1850

[@andrewward1887]

The lr3 and 4 look like a Land Rover all the new rovers look the same and they blend in with all the other cars on the road today no style

[@dvillalba3d]

Make an offroad comparison, please!

[@theBnoJ]

There's no comparison, old beats new. I'd take my LR4 over a Disco 5 any day

[@dvillalba3d]

@@theBnoJ I agree, at least on paper, it looks more capable. Never the less I think it would be of great interest to see how the electronic nannies fair vs an old school approach.

[@robertfields5283]

@@theBnoJ Dtito- my LR4 will smoke a disco 5

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Tbh, I came here for the off road comparison. More fool me lol.

[@NileshR12]

My family had the '06 LR3 HSE on a lease, then we leased the '08 LR3 HSE & ended up buying it out that LR3. We've had it since 2008 & it now has over 110k miles

[@SocksApril]

Currently have the 05 LR3 HSE model. Just hit 420,000km. Every intention of keeping it as a daily driver.

[@lincolnmicahfox]

Old one over the new one any day, especially since I own one

[@wedonotforgivewedonotforge3031]

Yea same here

[@FriENTlyFire]

Discovery 5 looks like a Saab SUV

[@thesheepman220]

Dakota Winnie do you I couldn’t think of what it looked like , yep your ban on a Saab , I wouldn’t buy a new Land Rover disco infact the only Land Rover I’d buy would be the MK 1 Range Rover 3.5 v8 with over drive best out out of the lot , I have Daihatsu and a Isuzu far better trucks

[@steveg7149]

Ford Explorer

[@dillonh321]

Looks like a Toyota Highlander

[@vfbaby2011]

Ford Explorer all the way lol

[@mdtell]

Damn, I miss Saab

[@Build0001]

Look Tommy, I just bought a 2020 Discovery and didn’t think I would like it as much as I do. I absolutely love this car and the ZF 8 speed is the best in the business. This thing even warns you of red light cameras. Fun fact, it tows 8200 lbs. Out of all the cars I’ve owned this car has the best headlights of the all and it even has REAR FOG LAMPs for safety. I have always talked down about this brand but this Discovery feels very upscale and tight.

[@OffMyCloud]

I've had my Disco 3 / LR3 for 10 years. It's a 2005 one, with nearly 140000 miles on the clock. I wouldn't swap it for the Disco 5, mainly because I just do not like the newer vehicle's design. No doubt the 5 is very cable, but probably no more so than the 3. Much, I think, depends on what you want from your 4x4. If you're after a 4x4 that you can show off in town with on the way to get the weekly shopping, then the 5 might be the ticket, but when I bought my Disco 3, it was all about packing in the family (all 6 of us), and the dog, as well lots and lots of camping gear, and heading off somewhere. It needed to be rugged inside as well as out, because it didn't take long to get covered in mud. Easy wipe down was a must. Trips out in the 3 when my children were young, really were a voyage of discovery. Yes, I've spent thousands in those last 10 years keeping the car going, but a lot of things can be fixed at home without the need of a specialist. I bet the same cannot be said for the 5. I'll be sticking with my Disco 3, either until the end of its days, or the end of mine. And before too long, I'll be taking the grandchildren on camping trips in it, off looking for new adventures, as the cycle begins again.

[@optimus101]

Awesome review - keep up the great work. Would love to see a Disco5 vs LR4 off-road competition.

[@PhannyObsession]

FYI, over here in the UK, the Volume Knob is on the other side (left) in all JLR cars. Basically, it’s for the passenger to use (as the driver has volume controls on the Steering Wheel). So, it’s on the right for the passenger for you guys

[@engineergaming4295]

Actually it’s the same exact stereo because our volume control is on the left.

[@evilz33]

Land Rover needs to remember their roots. Modern day disco is catered too much to the suburban mom. That’s what the Range Rover is for. Even the new defender looks castrated.

[@barryrichards3187]

Agree with everything you say except for the bit about the Rangey. As you can probably see with my avatar thing, my Range Rover P38 is 100% an Off Roader. The new defender is just a "squared off" new discovery.

[@evilz33]

Barry Richards that’s the “og” range. I’m sure it handles it self well in the rough stuff. I was talking about their newer stuff. Checked out a couple of your vids. Props to you man looks like you get after it!

[@martinhawkes2823]

Exactly, i still drive a real one that work's all week & still go out & have fun in on weekend's and it's 55yrs old, doubt if the electronic's alone in the new one would last a 10th of that time, plus the fact i think it look's bloody ugly.

[@GSXR0311]

LR had to change their design to be more EPA friendly. Boxy equals no aerodynamics which equals low gas mileage. I do agree with you though.

[@Moparornocar74]

I hope you guys always have a Rover in the fleet, pretty much the only channel that shows these are not nearly as crap as everyone likes to think they are. Thanks for showing one of my favorite brands some love

[@Ta50039]

Aside from not having an off-road test, you knocked it out on this one. Clearly you are getting a lot more comfortable in front of the camera and you've really started to develop a great on-camera persona - educational but also funny. Keep up the great work. I've been following all your LR3 videos and ultimately ended up testing and driving both the LR3 and LR4 and then bought a 2013 LR4. Love it. I traded in a 2018 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium and the LR4 is better in almost every regard as a split purpose vehicle. Just completed an 1800 mile desert trip in it and it was fantastic.

[@konstantinpalapeshkov3394]

Great videos guys, as a lr3 owner i love it, unfortunately the newest model is more like marketing dept choice than the constructors. Comparation between the previous and successive models will be more plausible. As you know latest lr4 is more luxurious than the earliest.

[@lukegraham7561]

Please please please do this video again but with the discovery 4 instead of the 3

[@tripleseven8361]

Great video, as always! Anxious to hear your review of the New "Defender", when you finally get your hands on one...Thanks!

[@tripleseven8361]

The new LR3 has a pile of tech, but will that stuff still work after 10 years?

[@Sithhy]

"Poverty spec" is the best name for a trim level

[@tylermacconnell217]

Sithhy - except Tommy’s model isn’t the poverty spec. It’s a V8 SE, which was mid trim level.

[@Legoguy1979]

@@tylermacconnell217 not in North America. North America only got SE, HSE, then later on HSE Lux. While rest of world got an actual base model.

[@tylermacconnell217]

Zachary Solomon - actually, there were three trims when the LR3 came out. V6 SE, V8 SE, and V8 HSE. That makes Tommy’s “mid trim.” I noticed his actually has the optional higher end Harmon-Kardon sound system that came standard on HSE.

[@Legoguy1979]

@@tylermacconnell217 yeah you're right I forgot the v6 and v8 SE were different trims. Yes he does have the high end speaker just like my SE. Although there were three versions base non harmon then a harmon with 240w system which has no center speaker or 3rd row speakers Then you had the fancy harmon used on forgot what the amp is called but I do know after replacing many, many fibre optics tgat it uses fibre optic instead of conventional wires. Also, normally at shops we just differentuate lr3 from the wording instead if engine so SE, HSE, HSE Lux though you are correct in that the SE is split between engines. I also agree that from I saw he does have the highest end radio because he had the 3rd row radio control. Although I'm surprised his doesn't have the cold climate package that a ton of lr3 have. Edit: I remember what the radio were called it was low line, then harmon kardon, the premium audio HK with logic 7.

[@tylermacconnell217]

Zachary Solomon - our 2005 had the 240w harman/kardon stereo, which sounded pretty good. We had a V8 SE

[@Ganbala]

From a land Rover owner . Thanks Tommy

[@abymathew295]

New Discovery is arguably one of the Ugggggggliest car on the road today...

[@gardentractors1751]

Also the L322 Range Rover was the first Land Rover to have fully independent air suspension.

[@alfredsmith2322]

Have an 06 LR3. 170,000 miles. Great truck on and off road. Excellent in snow. Will never replace it.

[@ryanmartinage]

I feel like I'd like the new Discovery more if they were at least shaped more for offroad. No one's even bothering to make parts for them...

[@TommyLGarage]

In before I even watch it. I love these old versus new comparos. Keep them up!!!! Ok watching it now ....

[@mistersitati]

Great work on this long form review, definitely enjoyed the detail.

[@rorner11]

Thanks from a 2009 LR3 owner! Ive driven both the LR3 and the D5 extensively and completely agree with your assessment.

[@Yk-xw8lm]

Mate thanks. Which one you prefer? I own lr3. Planning to switch

[@jenniferharris9701]

Nice video, Tommy. I appreciate the walk through of both. I have an ‘07 LR3 with the factory installed third row seating. I’m not sure if your LR3 with the converted third row seating has this but in mine, the middle row of seats actually flip forward to allow access to the third row of seats. If I recall, once the middle row of seats is folding down, there should be a latch on the back of the seat, near the bottom. This allows the passenger in the third row to release the seat so they can get out. Again, I’m not sure yours will have that latch but on LR3’s with the factory installed third row, they will. Also, at 8:20, that is a cup holder. If the holder is functioning, just press in the bottom part and the cup holder should pop out. Hope this helps!

[@frtjf]

Theres also two cup holders for the second row, underneath where the aux port is.

[@dwgraham22]

Thanks for your great video! I have to mention that I do have a 2005 LR3 and a 2011 LR4. They both still look relatively new and still function quite well at 215 and 137 miles respectively. This is as I do pay a great deal of attention to maintenance regarding them. My wife drives the 2011 LR4. The LR3 that I drive is quite souped-up with third-party external accessories... including black taillights, a black velvet hood decal, sidebars, a snorkel, window tints, and a rear ladder. We both get compliments on them all the time.

[@tylermacconnell217]

Some factual errors: The LR3 did not have “well over 300hp.” In fact, it had exactly 300. Not all LR3’s came with sunroofs. The rear climate control came with the 3rd seat option. The LR3 was not the first Land Rover to have a fully independent air suspension system. That would be the 2003 Range Rover.

[@frtjf]

Not sure if it just a registration thing but my Disco 3 V8's documents state that it has exactly 299hp.

[@tylermacconnell217]

Fritjof D - US version published specs stated 300hp and 315lb-ft

[@willblankenship2826]

Tyler, I’ve had several of these trucks, and have probably seen hundreds while searching the market, etc. I’ve never seen an LR3-4 without a full glass roof. I had no idea this was even optional. Do you know if this was optional for US spec? Interesting. Thanks.

[@tylermacconnell217]

@@willblankenship2826 - Base LR3 models did not even have fog lights, nor an auto dimming mirror, nor a sunroof. Here is one I found on AutoTrader, a 2006, which from the photos clearly does not have sunroofs, despite having rear climate control (thanks to the third seat). www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=540395415&zip=03743&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D03743%26startYear%3D2005%26vehicleStyleCodes%3DSUVCROSS%26incremental%3Dall%26endYear%3D2008%26modelCodeList%3DLR3%26makeCodeList%3DROV%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26engineCodes%3D6CLDR%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26searchRadius%3D0%26isNewSearch%3Dtrue&startYear=2005&numRecords=25&vehicleStyleCodes=SUVCROSS&firstRecord=0&endYear=2008&modelCodeList=LR3&makeCodeList=ROV&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=ROV&modelCode1=LR3&clickType=listing

[@johnCarter-tx4yv]

@@willblankenship2826 Definitely an option. It was/is called the "alpine roof". In my search for for an HD lr3 I tried and tried to find one that was not HSE to avoid the glass roof but couldn't find one. I did find lots of SE that had a standard roof but no HD package.

[@jensalan]

Fun fact: There's also a hidden compartment under the cup holders in the Discovery 5

[@AngryAsianOG]

JensAlan that’s the main one for me

[@spartanchirho]

Great video! Hope there is more offroad comparison in the works!

[@ronsmith7880]

That was great video...I think I like the 06' a lot more.Thanks Tommy..I enjoyed the video.

[@neilledger3977]

At last a guy that's drives an SUV correctly. Enjoying your videos.

[@johanhghsrensen7523]

I have had my Disco3 HSE for 11 years now and it has done 320.000 km. Bought it second hand with 60k km on the clock. I have all the extras and I have done all repairs by myself in the driveway - it has only been touched by me! I love it - it no spacecraft, but it is such a nice car to drive with the air suspension. It takes a good amount of taking care, but if you can work it yourself you will be a very happy driver. It has my best recommendations - and I really have a hard time seeing myself in the much smaller new version - I need some space :-)

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

Im in your boat. 2008LR3 bought second hand with 80k miles, all my own work in driveway! Keep em rolling!

[@johanhghsrensen7523]

@@beerbeforebreakfast Glad to hear I'm not alone out here :-) But I think we need to point out that these lovely LR's need a fair amount of looking after to work properly. Every time I have something breaking I fix it asap - you don't want the faults to build up on a massive technical car like the LR3 HSE. Last year I build in wireless network and AirPlay - much easier than the cable fixed to the AUX input :-) disco3.co.uk is the source of many tips and tricks :-)

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

@@johanhghsrensen7523 your not kidding. There are more feature and more tech with engine and everywhere thus more fixes needed just by the math. But it is great for training if you are a mild mechanic, the difficulty of some repairs can elevate your skill to a new level and i appreciate that, especially since its on a low cost vehicle since they depreciate quickly, making abuying a used one ideal for: an offroading, camping, mild mechanic, luxuries loving, needing a classy car for regular life, lower budget, higher use, husky owning, Land Rover fan club members(not official), working class drywall and painter family!

[@gonzorodri]

Good comparisson... thanks!! I think comparing the D5 with a D4 would it be also useful. Cheers

[@matthewmorris9868]

The interior on the land rover discovery 3 is meant to be plasticky as it is an overland vehicle i.e g4 challenge vehicles.

[@07FJC]

Great video. I had an ‘08 LR3 SE7. Of the nine Land Rovers I’ve owned, it was the most practical and most reliable. It was no slouch either- felt plenty quick. If only LR had put the 4.2 Supercharged engine in it! Overall, I’d go LR3. But having said that, I’d pick my ‘07 L322 Supercharged over both. It’s amazing.

[@CR-zu3mb]

He says neither 3rd row is great, but the 3rd row in our LR4 is great. It fits adults no problem and you still have some room for bags. Unless you are wanting to go with something like a Suburban, this was the best 3rd row we found when we were shopping. Boxy shape gives lots more usable space.

[@simonuden8450]

I'm with you on the styling of the old Discovery 3/LR3. I owned a Disco 3 and followed that with two Disco 4s before going for a Range Rover Sport at the last change because I didn't like the look of the Disco 5. However, as a second car, I have now bought a 2006 Discovery 3 for £5,000 and I'm loving it. In the UK, we got the rather asthmatic 2.7 litre V6 turbo diesel or, as an option, the same V8 that you have, but that was dropped before the Discovery 4, when the beefed up the TD engine to twin turbos and 3 litres. A couple of points about your review. You didn't mention that, with both the second and third row seats folded in the Disco 3, you get a completely flat floor which is about 6ft 6ins from the back of the front seats to the tailgate - great for sleeping in if your off on a trail - try that with a modern Discovery. The notched tailgate was designed to allow you to reach further on the right when the lower tailgate was down, but it's a lot easier to raise the third row seats with the tailgate up. Something that the turbo-diesel versions had that the gas versions didn't, was an auxiliary fuel burning heater, which was used to help heat the engine quicker, especially in cold climates, but it had the option of a remote park heating function, so you could operate it with a remote from the comfort of your house, and it would heat the engine and heating water system, had a separate electric water pump, and could circulate air in the passenger space. You say there was a lot of plastic in the old Discovery, but you failed to mention all the leather that was around, although there was a lot more in the HSE variant. The new one still has quite a bit of plastic as do most cars. Finally, that volume control being away from the driver (in the Discovery 5) is on the other side in the UK. It's really meant for the passenger, as the driver can control the volume from the steering wheel buttons. Thanks for the great review.

[@mariodesmo]

Good review. Nicely done!

[@BrandonBarberTx]

Great video, I was wondering the same thing. Was perhaps thinking about a LR3 as a 2nd car. Really enjoyed the LR2 but it has some common issues in most of them. Mine died for coolant tank mixture, most likely head gasket.

[@wayneaiello]

Great review. One thing about the LR3 which is my offroad truck now. It normally seems sluggish even with the V8, but you can move the shifter left to enter sport mode which gives it A LOT more passing power. Not a sport SUV by any means but a great option for getting that extra power you want. The LR3 is a legit off roader and overland vehicle, if you're willing to risk going out with an air suspension. But with the terrain response system and a locking rear diff, it gets me where I need to go off road. Also a pretty good 3rd party market for LR3-specific accessories like racks, swing away tire holders, etc.

[@Camron-zd8wp]

I own my LR3 for 5 years til now, I love it more then the newer models

[@Badelier]

What exactly does the terrain response do? How does the truck behave differently depending on the mode it's in, or is it just another light on the dashboard?

[@rtelmo]

24:40 minutes of my life waiting for an off road test that never came

[@petermenzies1714]

It took me a while to accept the D3 & D4, Compact Tonka Toy looks were a big wow from the outset but the sophisticated electronics, Airbag suspension and seemingly unnecessary level of automation were apparently taking away the rugged reliability of the older beam axle ancestors. Now I think it looks great, I accept carrying a diagnostic tool and airbags and pump etc are now considered a service item. Improved reliability would be great but there really is nothing like it, it is still miles ahead of the competition in every area other than reliability, damn Land Rover I love them, their ingenuity-but dream about them having Land Cruiser reliability and an optional simple ECU free hose out model.❤

[@joecool509]

My 07 LR3 was amazing in the snow. I also changed the name of my LR3 to discovery 3

[@julianpilinci5509]

I have driven both, the old one was an LR3 diesel that had a huge amount of torque and powerful engine.

[@homeydirt2278]

I have 2011 LR4 and 2020 Discovery SE, love both. No doubt Discovery is more refined, pleasure to drive

[@ashish3116]

I appreciate if u guys could bring up lr4 2016 and the discovery 5 as I love to see the difference plus the all the new updates (I hope u guys take my suggestion)💯😍

[@collingodbey3737]

Mine was fairly anemic too, turns out the injectors were slightly clogged, ran some Lucas injector cleaner through it and it really helped!

[@WS_00]

Nice review video thanks! Re: the volume knob on the wrong side....the driver has volume controls on the steering wheel, so the knob is on that side so the passenger can access it easier.

[@sportster883able]

I own an LR3 V8 HSE here in Qatar and while it's now 12 years old, or at least 50% of it is with the rest (air suspension struts, several A/C compressor and evaporators, water pump, radiator, numerous coil packs, sensors, leads and hoses, etc, etc) from 2016 to 2020, I refuse to get rid of the old girl. I have a Ford Expedition and BMW X5 also and while the Ford is rock solid, reliable and never fails or lets us down and the BMW X5 a real mess, its the Landie that will never leave the family until either its engine or transmission drop out of it. Awesome vehicle. Have tried the new Velar and new Range Rover Sport and while gorgeous and desirable, you just get the impression that they are fashion accessories styled like any Japanese/Korean SUV. The LR3/LR4 were the last of the old school Landies.

[@DarthFurball]

Bang on with the review. Couldn't agree more on most points

[@hyphennz2]

Like it, I did a review of the 2020 Defender and I also compared the Discovery 5 as following the Range Rover styling!

[@andymckane7271]

Great job with this video, Tommy! One of these days I may rent a Discovery for a week or two and see how I like it. Also, of course, see how reliable it is. (About two years ago I was offered a Range Rover as an upgrade by Alamo near the Honolulu airport. I asked the counter person, "How often does it return on the back of a tow truck?" He laughed and said, "You've owned one before?" We had a bit of a wait, but we decided to stick with the Cadillac XTS we had reserved. (P.S. This past December the same Alamo location rented us a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JL for a small fee above the daily rate for a Wrangler Sahara Unlimited. We had the Rubicon JL for ten days. It was superb!) Andy McKane ex Springville, Utah now living on the Island of Molokai in Hawaii.

[@jerrodcorey25]

I'll take the old one!!!!

[@stateplumbing9299]

We upgraded from the LR4. Love the new tech and tons of front storage. The front cup holder slides for even more. I was in the new defender and super disappointed. It just felt a little cheap.

[@Jbaron23]

Thanks for putting this together. The LR3/LR4 was a true off road vehicle. My wife still loves and drives her '08 LR3. The new disco...well its nice sure but its trying to compete with the overcrowded "sporty" SUV market. Pass.

[@Followthelemming]

Nice review Tommy! I am now in the market for a used LR3. The new stuff looks way too much like an explorer anyway.

[@mathewpadron4606]

I'm selling my LR3 if you're still interested

[@cmnhl1329]

2005: “can that fluffy looking Discovery even go off-road?” 2017: “can that fluffy looking Discovery even go off-road?”

[@bigfishvc]

Tommy - the scoop in the tail gate on the Disco 3 provides just a bit more access when loading or unloading. I thought this was its purpose? Keep up the good work...

[@elethaduffy976]

I have a 2006 LR3 HSE. Love it. Love its distinctive style and it has taken me safely through very rough weather. I'm not trading it in.

[@jacquelineruppert5888]

New new new! Beyond excited to get mine.

[@charlesharding6654]

I live on a farm with long dirt driveway and fields, so I purchased the new 2017 Discovery HSE. It enables me to get around in the snow and bad weather off road in comfort. Most of my driving (97%) is on treated roads, regular streets and highways. So the new discovery's bias towards street driving is perfect for me, with the option of amazing off road capability. The LR3 is too heavy. too slow and drinks gas like a bus. My diesel discovery averages 27mpg, is 800lb lighter and can stop me from getting into an accident. Progress is a good thing!

[@shanerobinson6776]

Realy thinking of get a LR3 my car is paid off soon next couple of months and looking into them something like a 10 plate diesel. Love the channel hi from UK 👍

[@williamdomey7584]

Great video, Do you still have the 04 Discovery 2?

[@Nicoisrico]

Should have put the lr3 in sport mode that’s when she revs an u can feel the powa, also mine came with a mini fridge inside of the centre console instead of a cubby

[@1srowlings]

The short bit on the rear door can be sat on with the longer bit stopping the rain when you change youre boots

[@jordanlawlor365]

I’m so glad you guys did this. However, from an arthritics aspect I think you guys need to specify the trims on these two vehicles. My 08 LR3 HSE with the Lux package has a much more comparable interior to the D5 as I have all the options you could have in an LR3 and makes the LR3 not look as archaic. More than happy to lend mine if you wanted, or at least wanted to check out. For instance, I have the cooler, wood trim, off road/nav screen, and the cup holder on the far passenger side where you have a tiny cubby hole.

[@carltonsirewu]

"A lot of SUVs today are trying to be sporty" i felt that Weird though when you consider that SUV stands for... Yes

[@tylermiller6331]

I have the LR4 and it’s the best of both worlds. Lots of power. Off-roady size and design but modern luxury inside

[@karimalameddine5092]

You can go on sport mode to go faster! Loved the video! Now get an LR4!

[@seannaseri5387]

Loved your comments on the New Land Rover Design process :-DDDDDDDD

[@rolfzettersten8877]

We have a 2011 LR4 and a 2017 Discovery. The two greatest benefits of the older model are the V8 engine and the higher roof line which allows us to store two bikes upright. That leaves plenty of room for other storage, and keeps your bikes nice and clean.

[@vancelife5714]

Love it tommy! We love out 06 LR3 still!

[@barneybarret6088]

What Landrover have done is realise they made a mistake with the newer discovery and released another new discovery but called it Defender.

[@VFizz]

Excellent review! I bought my first Range Rover earlier this year (Evoque). I gotta be honest, I simply did not like the way the new Discovery looks. So I traded the larger space of the Discovery for the better looks and excellent ride of the Evoque :)

[@aaceshin7478]

the video that I like, the video is cool and very useful. always success for The fast lane care, I am from Indonesia. offroad lovers

[@Trikytee]

I agree the new discovery is too curvy...I love the shape and design of the lr3 it truly is a classic...

[@Countrysideboy247]

What is even better is a discovery 1 with a v8,diff lockers ,etc! And for traction,get some threaded meaty tyres ,which is quiet same as having a traction controller for achieving traction! But the discovery 3 was the last real offroad SUV from land rover ! I wish i was in 2007!

[@tylermacconnell217]

MOTOR HAWK car n truck enthusiast - agree, the best Discovery for off road was the Disco 1.

[@simonuden8450]

MOTOR HAWK it was an expensive car in 2007. When I took mine off-road, people thought I was stupid to risk such and expensive vehicle. Now look what we're all saying. It is difficult to think that we might feel the same way about Discovery 5 in 2034...

[@Countrysideboy247]

@@simonuden8450 well for me even the discovery 3 is not as useful as the 1 and 2 generation discos! I appreciate the 3rd gen because of it's robustness ,but not the reliability ! I have a 2 door series 1 ,and it is a real discovery ,even if that particular thing is 4 years older than me! For me ,something fully mechanic is the answer ! Just my opinion!

[@samuelgoncalves5628]

if you pull the cup holders back there is a big storage under them

[@brucefalk5915]

Wow the Rover has all the controls and air ride which is everything my 2000 Lexus 470 lx has just 21 years later. With 21 years of use and over 200000 miles it’s running just fine.

[@trlalli92]

Hey don’t forget the refrigerator in the center console option on the LR3! My mom’s has it - works great for small snacks 😂

[@krookdfinra]

Have a discovery 1, 110 and a lr4. I really stopped liking new land rover vehicles after the lr4. It was probably the last old school land rover. Its like land rover hired the same designer for all its new models to save a few dollars. Every single one looks as if its based on the evoque. Which at the time wasn't bad looking, however when every model looks similar i lost interest. When a discovery sport, discovery, evoque, velar, rr sport, and range rover and now the defender all look so similar unless you own a land rover that you likely dont know the difference between a 40k evoque and a 90k range rover, we have an issue. Not to mention, getting rid of the v8 on most models. Land rover has changed from being an off roader pretending to be an suv to an suv pretending to be an off roader, which is a shame. Their last true off roader was probably the lr3 or lr4. Havent drove a new defender so i cannot comment on those however i expect it nots true to its 90, 110 or 130 roots. I feel as if land rover is abandoning its heritage, if you look at a Mercedes G wagon, no matter if its a model from 1980s or a brand new one, its still a g wagon. Same with the jeep wrangler, its instantly recognizable as a wrangler, land rover went the opposite way instead of model recognition theyre going for brand recognition. Which to me is the wrong approach. If i wanted a sleek fuel efficient crossover, id get a Toyota. Not a land rover. Old land rover's stood out, now modern ones just blend in...

[@Excursion99]

Isn’t the old one the same vehicle the camera crew use in top gear / grand tour?

[@SalvadorAndradeHN]

They did for most early filming

[@stevenmontoya355]

Thanks for the video review. I have a 2006 LR3 and I just hit 250K miles. It’s been a great vehicle and still runs well. I am starting to think about a new SUV and what my options are today. I appreciate you laying the difference between these options as I am leaning towards the new Discovery. I did not like the new exterior design initially, but it’s grown on me. Also, I like that you don’t see a lot of them on the road. Just visited Los Angeles and it has to have the highest RR per capita in the world. Thanks again.

[@Yk-xw8lm]

Hi, I have lr3. But deciding to change. Did you managed to change to LR5?