Is the New York Times losing its credibility on Israel-Palestine? | The Listening Post

In December 2023, The New York Times published an explosive article - now widely discredited - that detailed Hamas’s agenda to weaponise rape and sexual violence on October 7. We reveal the controversies surrounding the article along with the broader issue of Western media outlets’ pro-Israeli/anti-Palestinian bias.
Lead contributors:
Ali Abunimah - Director, Electronic Intifada
Chris Hedges - Former Middle East Bureau Chief, The New York Times
Yumna Patel - Palestine News Director, Mondoweiss
On our radar:
After they won an award at the Berlinale film festival, the reaction to a speech by filmmakers Yuval Abraham and Basel Adra has become the latest example of Germany’s toxic debate on Gaza. Meenakshi Ravi reports.
Genocide in Gaza through the eyes of Israeli soldiers
For months, Israeli soldiers in Gaza have been documenting their own war crimes against Palestinians and sharing them on social media.
The Listening Post collected and reviewed hundreds of items. We asked three experts on human rights and torture to examine the material.
Featuring:
Basil Farraj - Assistant Professor, Birzeit University
Lisa Hajjar - Professor of Sociology, UC Santa Barbara
Sarah Leah Whitson - Executive Director of Democracy for the Arab World Now (DAWN)
Producers: Tariq Nafi and Elettra Scrivo
With thanks to: Younis Tiwari and Tali Shapiro
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[@deviselina2332]

The Gaza war exposed a lot of Israeli cruelty . Israelis lost humanity long ago

[@imtheman4805]

ALL your little Palestinian buddies were in the streets shouting death to Israel and Cheering October 7th after killing 1300 INNOCENT children and babies … BUT you and your little Palestinian buddies aren’t cheering anymore .. ARE THEY!!!!!!

[@lucysky384]

Boycott New York times. Forever. They never deserve to be forgiven for this.

[@retirementplanner]

It's rich for a Radical Islamist Qatar funded propaganda outlet (Al Jazeera) which has exposed itself to the world as fake media and ruined its reputation forever to make any any claims about what NYT is or isn't when its own house isn't in order. I'm not interested in hypocrisy. Absolutely hilarious

[@TheStonesQT93]

I unsubscribed from the NY Times over their horrific reporting on Gaza.

[@KTravRuNEr]

Same

[@robertwilliamross1389]

SAME!

[@dali_hemingway2197]

Now unsubscribe to the Intercept (Jeremy Scahill) and Democracy Now for STEALING this story from the Gray Zone (Max Blumenthal) who first reported it a few months ago.

[@YAM1981]

Same! I am beyond revolted and outraged by them.

[@simokokko7550]

Same. They are doing manipulation of public mind. Using prestige and credibility to tell people you can trust us. Ultimate way of doing propaganda. They are saying that everything else is conspiracy theories but you can trust us. No wonder people in US do not trust mainstream media.

[@the_smart_cookies_pod]

Lost it during the Iraqi war already. This just confirms the moral bankrupcy

[@TheTeach56]

Since 9/11.

[@beanabong2896]

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nosuchthing8]

True

[@techmedandtravel]

NYT is a propaganda machinery

[@robopeteco]

Amd so are all the corporate media - a propaganda wurlitzer by commission, omission, deceit, and distraction - 365 - 24/7.

[@kalijasin]

Western Media (BBC, CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, SkyNews, etc.) is 100% propaganda.

[@franklincassidy4927]

Just like aljazeraa

[@techmedandtravel]

@@franklincassidy4927 yeah maybe but with facts

[@liquidswordfish]

Not really 😢😢​@@techmedandtravel

[@michellenorris8471]

''If you are not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.'' A quote from Malcolm X

[@MA-sk4fg]

How true!!!

[@SegzWithTedCruz]

Can't be fooled from thier occasional objective piece either, "a good liar tells the truth as much as possible"

[@marinarosa8599]

So true!!!

[@user-lr7nx8xq3m]

4 is a 😂😂1😂AND ⁷ ​@@MA-sk4fg

[@VassilkaMorrison-pd7ip]

Great quote, thanks

[@Tahia213]

Al Jazeera , this documentary is a MASTERPIECE that will be studied for decades and centuries. Against once of the worst crime , censorship against humanity : the on going Nakba.

[@afrobian1]

Honestly every Listening post is a masterpiece

[@ellenzouroudes176]

I unsubscribed from the NYT and told them exactly why! Shame on them!

[@DSHUJA]

It is about time the world recognized the New York Times as a purveyor of misinformation.

[@christopherperrote7780]

​@@Why_Dude_Why ar least they're honest about who pays them, unlike the jew york times....

[@TheTrueChess]

​@@Why_Dude_Why This is meant to be sarcastic. But tell me, is reporting the truth propaganda? Is reporting the genocide of Palestinians propaganda? Is reporting on things that go against the U.S. hegemon propaganda? Do you genuinely believe that saying things you personally don't like, that reporting the truth even when it is unflattering to Isreal, is propaganda? Al Jazeera may be Qatari, but does that really mean everything they say is lies? Or do you just want it to be that way, so that you don't have to deal with the fact that that the West is actively assisting in a genocide?

[@monichat]

@@Why_Dude_WhyYou said it dude

[@cybercuichi]

@@Why_Dude_Why I fthere is some irony on your words. Well, you are here, rather than choosing some other media, why?

[@Why_Dude_Why]

Thanks, Monica.😀@@monichat

[@RiamCute]

New York Times, CNN, BBC, ABC, Sky News Australia, ....the WORST!

[@darkworldgaming5580]

agreed

[@Sylvia-ps8tg]

Yes, thats no journalism.

[@masquarra]

MSNBC, GBNews, ITV, and so many more

[@johnbernacki6155]

@@masquarraFox News

[@user-en1wx6tj2m]

Even the most self proclaimed unbiased…PBS. And NPR. Biased against Palestine.

[@user-cb6ym9we2z]

how can this be humanly right. its sick to treat a whole country woman and children like this. they must pay and justice must be served

[@judi1989]

Thank you for this important journalistic endeavor of the harsh and difficult truth of Gaza, the IDF and the NYT. My heart is broken for Palestinians and the state of humanity.

[@bigsmoke8344]

NYT lost it long ago

[@Aaren-ln7uk]

Al Jazeera is propaganda for Hamas 100% that are hurting the Palestinian people

[@kindGSL]

They completely missed the truth about 9/11.

[@Dakshahathi]

Shame on you New York Times

[@ChuckYeahger-yi2ib]

Boycott izraehell, USA, Britain India Germany and France,

[@VKKULKARNI-sb7fr]

​@@ChuckYeahger-yi2ibAll these countries have boycotted Palestine/,Hamas along with Arab Muslim countries!

[@NPCONSULTING247-jy3pz]

@@ChuckYeahger-yi2ib 1000 likes best support BRICS global south at least a little bit more honest

[@kindGSL]

They should be sued. I don't know why they haven't been. Their reporting is terribly one-sided and slanderous against Palestinians. Lots of people have damages due to their 'reporting'.

[@lostangelwithnosoul]

just free the world of Zionist the control blackmail or in other ways force those brainwashed leaders to submit perish judah@@ChuckYeahger-yi2ib

[@user-il8yu4cf7i]

Please talk about more what our goverment doing here in germany. People all over the world should know this.

[@benzolobster]

genuinely think the higher-ups who approved this story need to face jail time (like accessory to 30,000 murders worth)

[@emilio5737]

The NYT has lost all credibility for a very long time. As the Mexican president says: it is a filthy rag!

[@adamesd3699]

The NYT lost its credibility on Palestine, and a lot of other topics, a long time ago.

[@ixinor]

Al Jazeera never had any credibility

[@kaboonali5466]

@@ixinorwhataboutism

[@MauriceECoates]

America lost its credibility on Palestine, and a lot of other topics, a long time ago. Israel has surpassed the SS in war crimes.

[@RobPires]

@@ixinorWhat lies did Al jazeera manufacture? Please we want to know?

[@adamesd3699]

@@ixinorYou lose credibility yourself when you say something extreme like that.

[@ermin7169]

I unsubscribed from NYTimes within the first 45 days. I also stopped giving to NPR, my biggest disappointment.

[@andykyriakides2144]

And still the Israeli UN ambassador is banging the table and showing clips on his ipad , in UNGA meetings , and accusing the UN of bias .

[@daniellatanswell3990]

It's really very simple: Whatever Israel and the IDF accuses Hamas of doing, is what they have been doing!

[@ElisabethArana]

Infallible‼️ This is exactly the procedure.

[@Expatnema]

Soooo true. Ive watched the tantura documentary and the veterans are proud of what theyve done. Just insane

[@annisausin7931]

Yes! And you do realize they accuse Hamas for crazy and unthinkable things right? To think they're the ones that are doing it are insane 🤯

[@LongTran-ke7mx]

True 🎉

[@vivejk4443]

why wouldnt they? israel has to defend itself too

[@lisal18]

We are no longer falling for media propaganda!

[@rapier1954]

That is the one good thing that has been the result of this sad situation. The Zionist lies have become so egregious that the vast majority of people have seen through them and those like the NYT and CNN who have propagated them.

[@durranaik]

Besides how can one lose something they never had!

[@lone982]

Those who mislead the public should be held accountable.....

[@joshuamohler2356]

Please keep reporting on this every day!

It lost its credibility with Judith Miller and the lies of the Iraq war

[@nosuchthing8]

Thanks. I forgot her name. What is she doing now?

[@user-oq9li9xy7e]

Yes, besides it CNN, FOX News have also have lost credibility

[@vivek1raja]

They never had any

[@AbelOktavian]

FOX is a big joke

[@TheVirgin696]

absolutely NEVER reading the NYT EVER AGAIN 😡🤬😡 cancelled subscription and so did many others

[@sheldonduff9338]

Who are the senior people at the NYT that are responsible for the immoral bias in favour of Israel?

[@nosuchthing8]

Remember, they think god gave israel a supernatural seed to that land. So anything goes.

[@user-iu4mu3bv5v]

I’m a New Yorker and talking to my friends who still get all their news from the NYT is like talking to people in an alternate universe. I hope they start to wake up.

[@monkeymajix]

They are literally living in a fantasy land with their reality streamed through msm lies.

[@NPCONSULTING247-jy3pz]

Use your own vocabulary and tell them about this proxypseudo world.

[@moriyokiri3229]

They won’t wake up. They’ll accuse you of “not having nuance”. The New York Times will lie to you and make you feel arrogant and dismissive about anyone else who doesn’t agree with them.

[@Sylvia-ps8tg]

NYT is like Sky australia. All stuck on oct.7. Dumb.

[@Sylvia-ps8tg]

Show them this from AL Jazeera

[@as-sabr]

The mainstream media has lost its credibility. I've unsubscribed from all of them. Kudos to Alhazeerah and these rising independent media coverages.

[@NPCONSULTING247-jy3pz]

Call them corporate media to be exact

[@DEBO5]

@@chitogil6218 better than being pro-IDF or pro Zionism (aka the real rapists)

[@spoppe0724]

Palestinians have the right of return to their country of origin Egypt, Syria and Jordan under the 1967 new respective borders. Egypt, Syria and Jordan respectively must take their Palestinian citizens back. Bottom line Palestinians are illegal immigrants and must vacate current Israeli territory. Just like the US and international community would deport illegal immigrants back to country of origin. Therefore, Israel has the right to deport illegal immigrants back to country of origin. Unless they denounce terrorism Hamas and any other terrorist group.

[@NPCONSULTING247-jy3pz]

@@chitogil6218 pro hummus

[@Why_Dude_Why]

Independent? Are you nuts? Al Jazeera is owned and operated by the Qatari government. At least the NY Times isn't controlled by the government.

[@XY-rh3if]

An individual working for the mainstream media as a reporter is no different from an individual working as an agent of the CIA. How they're able to sum up the courage to go to bed every night is something that I will never comprehend, as long as I will never give up my moral and ethical standards, including basic human decency, in order to become an agent of the CIA or a mainstream media journalist

[@df4196]

So Amat Schwartz’s defense of her article is literally “I was just following orders”

[@hgfku-tn6hb]

Let me applaud wonderful job by Al Jazeera in leaving no stone unturned with regard to reporting

[@timstapleman]

Several other independent media platforms are onto the story as well.

[@wilsonmakele8312]

Supporter of terrorist. Their journalists in Gaza are terrorists that's IDF killed them

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

the r°°° story was debunked firstby greyzone, electronic int°°ada and mondoweiss, and then relayed with credibility and without credit by the intercept, and finally expanded upon by the intercept. AJ is several months late to the party. I'm still holding out hope for mostly AJ and maybe others secretly investigating thebig untouched elephant-shaped stone that is the fact that the october event was an inside job (not initiated or guided, but very knowingly permitted and actively enabled by weakening defenses to create the pretext for escalated tyranny and ethnic cl°°nsing).it's really been obvious for a long time already, but obviously to authoritatively report this story one would need evidence as indestructible as wael dahdouh. but with the right evidence, it could probably cut the foreign support for this "war" in half, and it would certainly topple the government (really it would have to land those responsible in prison for the rest of their lives for treason).

[@praiseosagie5483]

Al jazeera is literally Quatari state media they need to get rid of slavery first 🤡

[@cupguin]

​@@timstapleman I've been sending those to people but this is a really well made expose that I'm going to be recommending instead.

[@joeh682]

As one father said, " thanks, Israel and the western Media for showing the world who you are and what you do

[@user-vq6xk8fe3j]

Criminals

[@user-bg9sg8cm3s]

Better than being brainwashed in Islam 😅

[@shaza6880]

​@@user-bg9sg8cm3sthis senseless one comment itself is enough to tell about your level of knowledge.

[@pearls1626]

@@user-bg9sg8cm3sI hope you researched before you make conclusions…. There are Christians in Gaza.😢

[@noriyhan6562]

​@user-bg9sg8cm3s Believe on lies is the same like you killed people. Wake Up! Donno anything about Islam😂...keyboard warrior...

[@MoSylla45]

It’s been over 10 years I no longer read the New York times and its propensity for manipulation.

[@malyankeri]

The NY-Times has no credibility to lose.

[@Williamb612]

The silver lining in this horror is that the world at large is experiencing in real time the very heart and hypocrisy of the Jewish state and its enablers...this will never be forgotten

[@robertwilliamross1389]

Masks are off!

[@BC-ox4yo]

Ilan Pappé (Israeli Historian) Said : We are witnessing the beginning of the End of Zionist colonial project. For more details on The Ethnic cleansing of Palestine, and mass killing in Palestine Please read the book of Ilan Pappé, The Ethnic cleansing of Palestine. There is a free PDF version available on internet

[@TheEnemiesEnemy]

I wonder why the Germans don’t express this perpetual guilt with the people of Namibia who they’ve also genocided. Perhaps this overwhelming support of Israel isn’t a matter of pity or guilt, but a shameful display of racism.

[@vivek1raja]

Or monetary control of financial and media institutions by the tiny hats?

[@TheEnemiesEnemy]

@@vivek1raja I agree with you with clarification. These forces are not exclusively Jewish. And the Jewish people are not exclusively Zionist.

[@rezrunnercl]

💯 truth!

[@soulsmouls]

Because German Jews were white

[@ixinor]

Did you know that huge groups of Palestines fought with the Nazis and germans during WW1 and 2? During the Ottoman war?

[@cynthiabrown9596]

I’m so confused. When have those propagandist’s ever have credibility on this matter?

[@hkiani6853]

Unfortunately populations have been lied to from days of 1st World War, the cause, and what led to continuation to 2nd World war, and what really happend. Version of Holywood one sided story is lots of garbage. PM Churchill the drunken bully was not a Great war leader they sold to their own puplic, ( He caused starvation of millions that had nothing to do with their war) all documented, etc, etc, etc

[@jayz_hamas]

Shut the NYT down and sue them till they drop their pants!!!

[@ahmeddahir85]

Respect to Chris Hedges

[@ElisabethArana]

❤

[@ablakandalaft8593]

This is so shameful. Hopefully the New York Times' reputation is in the toilet

[@jake751]

Always was

[@ewmbr1164]

It has been there all along. Only now very many folks do realize it, as they are suffocated by the stench of the toilet running over. Most odiously (hello "Animal Kingdom"-Tom Friedman!).

[@kjw6383]

Lost it years ago. Now just reiterating the bias and lies.

[@markkromrei6491]

The NYT lost their credibility a long time ago with Judith Miller.

[@geraldmantel4955]

How can they lose credibility they never had in the first place?

[@moj1338]

I lost all the respect for them after the WMD false report and cheering for the Iraq war.

[@geraldmantel4955]

@@moj1338 You know it!

[@durranaik]

Said the same thing before coming across your comment :)

[@geraldmantel4955]

@@durranaik They may have had more credibility than Mad Magazine, after Alfred E. Neuman retired.

[@gerard4039]

It’s just now it had become ridiculous 🤡🤡🤡….

[@TheBadgerr]

“If truth shall kill them, then let them die” -Voltaire

[@sheikmuhammad3894]

Amen.

[@Revenant74]

You are obviously talking about Palestinians.

[@minximayhem]

@@Revenant74 get help

[@Mom2Kolja]

​@@Revenant74poor little soul

[@Sayafa45295]

​@@Revenant74As if Palestine has any use for lies like israel

[@shahidahsan6507]

Times to sue New York Times.

[@solidfuze99]

There has got to be a way to get this to American Media that will actually put it out this is horrifying

[@dootscat3798]

Okay, we’re canceling our New York times subscription. The NYTimes behavior would be like a doctor who only helps the people they like and poisoning patients they hate.

[@user-nz4wq7ms5h]

I’ve canceled my subscription to NY Times

[@jacklanham7311]

Me too

[@sarakazim4221]

That's Zionism

[@islamvibe2]

The Upside of Western Hypocrisy

[@user-pg1wc6se3k]

thats the truth about them all along we just started to realize their hypocrisy just disgusting

[@ringostar4904]

We've been conned by the Zionists and their hidden Agenda for years.

[@Revenant74]

The Super Upside of Islamic Terrorism Hypocrisy.

[@samielkhayri9272]

​@@Revenant74You are stupidly providing all the incriminating evidence that the world will use to once and for all ostracize you and regard you as the rogue state you have always been.

[@nadinenturo7553]

​@@user-pg1wc6se3k if you live in western countries,then go to live Ramalah West Bank, where they will accept your false propaganda

[@ecl2023]

The sad thing is, it is all about the money. Who finances the NYT or whichever media, and you can determine their bias.

[@ajeda8947]

Everybody knows who own and run this newspaper ...build on lies and fake news specially when it comes to middle east

[@mysticalwind4632]

It can not be losing credibility when it has already lost all credibility.

[@PatriciaClaireEdelstein]

I am so relieved to see the New York Times bias and bad journalism exposed on a main stream channel.

[@abdulraja1151]

More embarrassing is that the Zionists who work for the NYT has been a broad path of lies and journalistic fraud , Thomas Friedman purported specialist is part of this whole charade . Zionists lie period .

[@abdulraja1151]

All American media is weaponized .

[@hindculhane470]

My husband who wrote copiously for the NYT Sunday magazine and the Art and leisure section proudly for many years ago, would be turning in his grave seeing what the paper has stooped to . Shame on them .

[@jadwehbe_]

cnn , nyt have always sided with zionist

[@syang7775]

NY Times lost its credibility years ago when it vigorously sold lies on weapons of mass destruction and cheer-leadered the country into war with Iraq

[@punapeter]

did the same for 9II, muslim band, etc etc etc U$A WAR EXPORT INC. NYT the advertising.

[@norman_5623]

I dunno. The NYT was about as bad in their coverage of the Vietnam war. I can judge them on several subjects about which I have professional knowledge, and their record is mixed. When was the last time you saw the New York Times refer to "single payer health care"? (OK to cheat and use Google search.) Did they treat Bernie Sanders with "fairness and objectivity"? Or the Iraq war? A.J. Liebling compared the NYT to a Jello dessert, with good reporters suspended inside like strawberries. (Like Chris Hedges.) I think the answer is that you can't depend on any news source as the well of truth. You have to use your critical thinking to separate true, false, and "not enough information." The NYT let enough good stories on the Iraq war slip through to let a skeptical reader figure out what's going on. And you need multiple sources, which is one benefit of the internet. You can't get it all in one place. (The Wall Street Journal was one place where you could get it all -- then Rupert Murdoch bought them up.) Nihil sine magno labore.

[@jpsion]

al jazeera the most reliable source. no bias whatsoever

[@johns9969]

Loosing? My father subscribed to NYT, and I kept it up. Now, it's to understand what establishment would like us too believe. Then fact check...

[@redwood421]

The New York Times lost its credibility early on. I was relieved to find Al Jazeera and Democracy Now for the most truthful and in-depth reporting. Thank you and all the reporters who put their lives on the line to keep the world informed.

[@zw9802]

democracy now? what is democratic about Gaza? if you want to live like that, move there; but i don't want gaza moving to the US.

[@ceerealitymusic]

​@@zw9802where's the democracy in Israel? Millions of Palestinians live under military occupation. But go on deflecting for genocide

[@Stef.OmegaD]

@@zw9802 your version of democracy left no house standing in Gaza , we have nowhere to stay when move there

[@Sylvia-ps8tg]

@@zw9802what are you talking about?😂

[@zw9802]

@@Sylvia-ps8tg the post above suggested that democracy now was a good news source, and I question this because it is constantly promoting the undemocratic regimes, such as Hamas.

[@NightDark-bw3xv]

Thanks Al-Jazeera for real and true journalism in this tough time .

[@God_is_love_believe]

Thank you for giving credit where credit is due for the debunking of the NYT story unlike others (like the intercept) who stole the reporting of others without giving them credit.

[@ericp1139]

Losing credibility would imply that the NYT had any to begin with.

[@Smearfact]

Newyork crime fantasy. My toilet paper.

[@sabirshaikh85]

The New York Times The untrustworthy Boycott it

[@zm20109]

I was a Ny times reader for 14 years , I canceled , I can’t their disgusting bias against Palestinians

[@jumble513]

Next NYT Headline: "There is a list, in arabic..." 😂😂😂

[@asnaeb2]

Finally someone gives Grayzone the credit they deserves!!

[@North_Korea850]

France 🇫🇷: condemns Russia 🇷🇺 over Ukraine 🇺🇦 Also France 🇫🇷: support Israel 🇮🇱 attacking Palestine 🇵🇸 🤡Macron🤡

[@timstapleman]

Also bear in mind Ukraine is a staunch supporter of Israel.

[@farazmohtasim]

Macaroni

[@MA-sk4fg]

Double standard ,hypocrisy and EVIL

[@Heroes122]

Cheese macaroni is known for double standards. When his country was expelled from Niger HE REFUSED 🤣 but eventually he left with his tanks humiliated.

[@Charliecomet82]

I must have missed the part where Ukraine raided Russia and raped, killed and took hostages?

[@mswen1983]

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” ― Michael Crichton I study Drug Policy, and I came to the conclusion long ago that the NYT was pure propaganda. Nobody gets things so wrong, so often, who doesn't either a) know what they're doing or b) find the experience humiliating, & learn from it.

[@Just-Human]

All media has lost credibility including AJ

[@Thinktank300]

Gold standard journalism- proud of Al Jazeera

[@Jouantiese]

Gold standard of Muslim Brotherhood - backed duplicity, taqiyah and disinformation.

[@eyedownload]

and grateful!

[@karinapflima]

Thanks for being the only mainstream journalistic outlet one can trust to understand what is going on in Palestine.

[@ixinor]

Literally no-one trusts this channel of lies 😂😂😂

[@humaitahmed1132]

​@@ixinorbelieve me, you're delusional 😂

[@fonzerela]

This is the best Journalism I’ve seen regarding Gaza U have a new viewer in me thx

[@yuree222]

Thank goodness , finally the truth. ‼️‼️I NEVER BELIEVED IT. NEVER ‼️‼️

[@imadchowdhury2083]

Look at the irony, these people were tortured like this once and the very people has given them shelter they're doing the exact thing to them. They've not learned from history.

[@Anonymus-qp2mb]

They don't care all they want is to steal everything the PALESTINIANS have, THEIR LAND, the resources, even their lives & genocide. WHAT was given to them Never was enough.

[@DeematheFashionDesigner]

YOU GOT IT 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@UmmuFarras]

They don't feel that they were being sheltered. They feel the shelter belongs to them to begin with.

[@Ganpignanus]

their ancestors. not them. and other people in Europe suffered in ww2 under the nzzis not just the juice. they act like it was just their ancestors who suffered and the use this to justify everything including gencode.

[@flare-4779]

FR NOT TO MINIMIZE IT BUT TO THINK YOU'RE SPECIAL BECAUSE U GOT OPPRESSED IN ONE WAY RATHER THAN ANOTHER IS F ING STUPID, OPPRESSION (IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET TORTURED AND KILLED IN MASS) IS OPPRESSION. Romani had it worse OBJECTIVELY. @@Ganpignanus

[@Fellowtellurian]

Losing? It lost it the day it published the first hospital bombing as a “Hamas rocket”

[@airyfeik]

NYTimes, “News that fit our highest bidders “

[@rvarsigfusson6163]

Justis for all .... as long as you can pay for it...... O.J.Simson

[@jaccogroen9367]

Very convincing. The problem is most people aren't willing to watch a long newsreport with background. They just copy/paste headlines :(

[@zamzam9135]

Thank you very much Aljazeera! For your great job!

[@johnwashington9292]

As an infantryman of many battles in the Vietnam War, knowing that the shock of battle destroys sexual desire and even the want to eat, I wrote a letter to the NY Times noting that I saw propaganda in “Screams Without Words…” by Jeffrey Gettleman, Anat Schwartz, and Adam Sella. What civilians don’t know is that rapes do occur in war, but never in the heat of battle, especially of such high intensity. For instance, in WWII, thousands of German women were raped in the Russian capture of Berlin but not by the attacking troops; the following troop waves after the battle were the offenders. In a battle with that many casualties, I am certain that no Hamas fighter pulled his pants down to use the bathroom. That close to death, the only woman a combatant would think about would be his mother!

[@munyathedreamer]

I am not a combatant but I also thought the same thing

[@bahaar2825]

You are right

[@cybercuichi]

It's logical, you cannot be on the middle of a risky operation, with an army shooting at you, and you with no other thing to do but raping women! That smell from far like BS! Whoever thought of that one, it's not very bright.

[@Expatnema]

This is interesting

[@oakmont3061]

Very interesting. Always thought it would be hard to do it in the middle of a battle

[@SR-rz9uj]

I canceled my NYT and NYTCooking subscriptions a few months back bc of what they were writing. Good to know that my instincts were correct. I’ve also unfollowed and stopped my support via social media, YT, etc for any of their staff. Sorry Sohla and Ham but how can you be complicit in an employer like this?!

[@maxheadrom3088]

"All the news that's fit to print" and only the ones fit to print. I would argue the problem is systemic and involves the financial troubles "print" newspapers are facing (a trouble the Times doesn't have, btw) but also the fact that we all have become advertisement executives and, therefore, put how convincing our message/news/arguments are above all other attributes like correct/clear/cautious. Journalists are not Judges and they can make mistakes and that's why hedging language and humility is important: "This journalist was informed by IDF soldiers/rescue workers/passers by that so so might have happened". Seymour Hersh published in the NYT a piece stating that the US Ambassador to Chile (around 1973) was involved in the preparing the repressive apparatus installed after Augusto Pinochet's coup that deposed Salvador Allende in 1973. The great Seymour Hersh later learned he was wrong and given the gravity of the accusation, Hersh published a 2,300 word correction on the front page of the then great New York Times.

[@acswu2617]

Quotes from Dr. Finkelstein If there were an Oscar for best theatrical performance by a country, Israel would win every year. It is a country based on theater. It's a lunatic state- completely insane.

[@user-oi6zd3lq6e]

Finkelstein is just a little zhid ,like the eternal jew movie .

[@Heroes122]

Thank you. ARAB REGION, its people and IT’s LEADERS are NOT ANIMALS. They are human beings with great PATIENCE and WISDOM. Israel should stop calling others names and focus on cleansing their own hearts with repentance. I am not an Arab but just a human being with a human heart

[@nicolaablett7790]

THE OCCUPIERS ARE SADISTS AS WELL AS MURDEROUS DEPRAVED GENOCIDERS

[@user-vq6xk8fe3j]

You are right.. Now we know who is evil and criminal. 75 years of brutal military occupation and the killing of innocent civilians. Love Jesus

[@petergreen5337]

❤Precisely well said and well OBSERVED

[@Federico-kh4br]

It is not only Israel and Palestine - I stopped a long time ago to read the NYT for absolutely horrendous reporting on the World - I can’t say about domestic issues as non american as leaving in Asia.

[@trizarabia]

Thank you Yemen! ♥

[@ChooseCompassion]

Thank you for giving The Grayzone, Electronic intifada and Mondoweis the credit they deserve for all the hard work debunking this hellacious story. This is the only news outlet that I have seen that has given credit where credit is due. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Free free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@JawboneDonky]

Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979. In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity. If Palestine were an Arab state, at any point in recorded history, why was there no mention of them? Because there never was an Arab Palestinian nation, nor any nation called Palestine, ever.

[@ExpatZ266]

​@@JawboneDonky P1ss off genocidal Zionist terrorist. Your lies have no meaning any more.

[@noorfaheem5619]

Thank you Chris Hedges for for uncovering the truth!

[@lenarobinson438]

Many thanks Listening Post. Very informative. I feel so depressed about this. Wish I had some power to change the situation for the suffering Palestinians. You are so brave and I believe you will be rewarded

[@evek2501]

Regarding the IDF torture, looting, destruction and snuff videos. How on earth can anyone say that these are acts of "self defence?"

[@stevendemaere4280]

I don´t but as a gay man i rather live in Israël then palestine. How can u even support a country that commits genocide on lgbtq? How can u? And don´t tell me that they even have to be freed to accept us. Cuz i refuse that. Humanitaire is given where.humanity is respecteren. Palestinians don´t do anything of the sort

[@gerard4039]

It’s called entitlement 🤡🤡🤡…. Like a spoiled child that is always right 👻👻👻

[@fonzerela]

I know let the Biden spokes person tell it we have to wait for the full investigation 👿😈😈😈😈😈👹👹👹👹👹👹👹

[@inventorzigbeerf4ce139]

Ridiculous nonsense. You are spot on. It's like saying Hitler was acting in self defence. Why would he want to kill women and babies? Maybe he saw into the future that the progenies of his victims had a genetic disposition to cause serious harm to the innocent; whilst crying about being victims themselves. This has now borne out in leaving your own abode to cross into another territory and inflict destruction under the guise of self defence. S.D means stay in your own area and protect against further attacks. Criminal law is being turned on its head. Some countries have laws that prevent you from attacking someone breaking into your home. Laws to prevent you from assaulting an intruder who is fleeing. Laws to prevent one from using disproportionate force. So, it's time to re-spell the law to lawmakers; especially those lawmakers in the US Congress who are ignorant of the law, when it suits their purpose.

[@lorenzodesantos]

Bullshit do your own investigation

[@judykinsman3258]

It’s not just the NYTimes. Last week I lost my favorite news source, France24. The change, the loss of honest reporting was blatantly apparent. I lost The Guardian shortly before that. Very sad.

[@randygraham926]

France24 has been lying about the Ukraine war as well but that is true of practically ALL Western media. I happen to have experience in Ukraine and the Donbas, even before the Biden and Nuland putsch in 2014. But for people who know nothing about Ukraine and Russia, it is very easy to fool them with propaganda and selective information. With Gaza you literally can watch the extermination of women and children so it's much harder to fool people, if they have empathy and an open mind.

[@lukewells6195]

You didn't lose the NYT. The Times lost you

[@user-oi6zd3lq6e]

Try Pravda or north Korea people daily...

[@iamjanedoe4real]

@@user-oi6zd3lq6ehasbara troll

[@markehijele]

Most msm

[@joshuagharis9017]

Chris is a true journalist and heroic human. Thanks to him and all the humans helping him achieve the mission

[@hakanozaslan9571]

The NYT has lost its credibility in a number of issues, LONG BEFORE this actual topic....

[@fromthemountains5635]

NYT and the likes of David Freeman has lost all respect. These folks drew such contrasts that they exposed themselves very clearly.

[@sulemanmalik8228]

They are all disgusting zl0nists.

[@menudobucket9837]

Thank you for getting input on this story from Chris Hedges. He’s highly respected among a large U.S. audience and, not that you need any, but he lends even more credibility to your reporting in the United States.

[@afrobian1]

He also very much respected in Arab countries for his unbiased and factual reporting

[@abdullahiahmed119]

They never had any reputation, in the first place, period.

[@grooveconductor6818]

I've known this forever but I guess we should be reminded always.

[@zubayershajib4282]

Money can buy hearts and souls, and how low can people get. More than 12000 children are killed, and countless innocent women and their families are irreversible now.

[@eyedownload]

Those 13,000 children weren't even born when Hamas was elected 17 years ago and have nothing to do with Hamas! Netanyahu and his people are sadists!

[@lhaaa1059]

The NYTimes lost credibility a very long time ago and keep at it to see if readers really care.

[@russcontact]

Not losing, completely lost. Many others too, but yes especially the NYT It’s all pretty shocking honestly

[@Gabrielbattou]

I have totally unsubscribed from @NYT, Al Jazeera you are on of the few mainstream news organization giving us the Truth!

[@codingblues3181]

Aljazeera needs to do documentary of how education system, and religious authorities play a role in this. I have seen numerous videos of Rabbis, preaching to these soldiers that would constitute war crimes, such as killing women and childeren and permission to rape and steal.

[@user-nz4wq7ms5h]

Zionists talk about Palestinians being indoctrinated to hate Israel, while they are the ones indoctrinating young Jews to hate all Palestinians!