Is the UA Ruby Plugin WORTH IT vs Line 6 HELIX Native

Is the UA Ruby Plugin WORTH IT vs Line 6 HELIX Native - My Honest Thoughts

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@bermibrit Ай бұрын

so I appreciate that I'm a very unusual use case and so not interesting from amarketing standpoint, but I'm going to say it anyway. I am a completely blind guitar player. I can actually use all the UAD amp sims because they are (mostly) accesible to me on Windows with my screen reader. Line6 has never cared about accesibility despite repeated attempts at contact from well known blind guitar players and engineers. We have always been given the brush off. So of course I will buy these, because I can actually use them and the company clearly gives a damn. And I'm on a blind guitarists list with 100 other blind guitar players whom I will tell about how good they are.

@logical_nonsense42 Ай бұрын

So you’ve blind tested them 😜

@benjaminashlin Ай бұрын

That would make a good KZbin channel

@jamesbennettmusic2154 Ай бұрын

They’re now 2 for £79 or all 3 for £109 (all year round deal on the UAD site, not just a flash sale). Probably the best bang for buck amp plugins out there.

@musiccreation1198 Ай бұрын

Yes!! I grabbed the Lion and Dream for $80...no-brainer.

@jamesbennettmusic2154 Ай бұрын

@ those are both so good. I’m a big fan of the HX Edit, but it’s £400 (unless you own a Helix floor unit). £39 per UAD amp is a no brainer when the presets are this good and the user experience is instant. DAW (Logic, Cubase etc) cover modulation, reverb and delay etc.

@christophecrapez488 Ай бұрын

I bought the 3 this way

@lorcazola Ай бұрын

Now its 3 plugins for $84 because of the additional FREE plugin.

@jspingau Ай бұрын

The Helix Native / Helix Hardware combo is the bomb. The mere fact you can record dry, fine tune guitar sounds on studio versions and then upload on Helix/HX for live with zero hassle is 50% of the reasons I'll never go back to Fractal (the remaining 50% being affordability of buying a spare and/or literal availability down the street in case of HW failure).

@henryaston1 Ай бұрын

Just, did the 3 bundle deal as you suggested, Dream, Ruby, Lion, £109 bargain, cheers for the video!

@StratsRUs Ай бұрын

I love The Helix and after having it a few years I now bought Native for the 50 Quid offer.I also love the Softube Marshalls. I got Native because I just know what to expect.Jason Sadites' signal path is great too.

@matteomidas638 Ай бұрын

We are waiting for you to teach us how to set up the input gain on the plugins...You are the king of thrash.

@tiago2336 Ай бұрын

While I absolutely love the pedals and own the Enigmatic, I would never pay the old price for the plugins and HELIX Native is a much better choice for value. Also, live playing is one thing and UA is king on that because of the feel of the UA Pedals, but when we talk about recording with headphones it's a much different story. Helix Native is great at it and as the feel is a much smaller factor, the amount of stuff Helix provides is a win-win. On the other hand, after the price changes, UA becomes, once again, the King (in price) in quality, accessibility, design and even feel, even though it's not as important in the studio with Headphones. Cheers

@garyshepherd9226 Ай бұрын

As a Helix Native user, while I love the options, there are almost too many, and simplicity might be better for me. I have resorted to using presets by people like yourself, Rhett Shull, and Michael Britt, because at times I have no idea what I am listening to anymore . Would probably be happier with 2 or 3 decent amps for my Les Paul, Tele, and JTV59. It can be a bit bewildering tbh. You buy a real amp and you plug in and you tend to know quickly what a good sound is. Struggling at times mentally with the Helix Native even though I have used it for years.....

@rodrigod2917 Ай бұрын

Uad has custom bundles live now: just got the 3 UAD for £109

@rutger4131 Ай бұрын

UA has always used price as a means to create perceived quality. Not saying it's not quality, BUTyo pay a premium for the feeling that you bought something expensive

@findingtheFOOT Ай бұрын

I feel bad for anyone who spent $150 each recently

@NickC1975 Ай бұрын

Never spend more than 30£ on a plug-in, they all come down to that price (or less) eventually at special discount, sales, Black Friday etc…

@jayseb Ай бұрын

Don't - If you buy plugins outside of November you are... well I'll stop there.

@JM_2019 19 күн бұрын

Now compare what people spent on their actual guitar for minimal sound differnces. $150 for a good sound on a recording is nothing to worry too long about.

@picksalot1 Ай бұрын

HX Stomp or Native works for me. With eyes closed, if it's hard to tell the Modeler from the other sound source, the Modeler wins in my opinion.

@Elink321 Ай бұрын

Bought the 3 UAD plugins via Select 3 bundle $84, planning on getting the Helix Native deal also 👍

@24avenged24 Ай бұрын

They're not identical, but I don't think they're any more different than two of the same "real" amps are. That's my general opinion of the current digital landscape, everything is close enough now that it comes down to personal preferences both in sound and usability. Debating who does it best now is like arguing what specific year was the best deluxe reverb.

@ksharpe10 Ай бұрын

The silver cab, at 12:13, is the Vox sound, the other cabs sound good too, Some of the brightness is toned down in a vox amp. with the use of greenback celection vs. the alnico/silver Blues, this is one I know because I own a 93 Vox ac3o Marshall built amp. with greenbacks, they cut out some of the Harshness, brightness by there very design. So the sample played at 11:30 is the base sound of MY Korg era amp. If I had silvers or blue alnicos it would be the other sample, Mine is what we used to Call a PUNCHY sound.

@ericp8256 Ай бұрын

I have the Ruby plugin as part of the UA subscription, but I also own the hardware version. It's my "go to", but I run pedals in front of the Ruby when recording, so that rules out using the plug-in. Still nice to have. I also owned the Helix at one time, but got rid of it. I just never cared for the sound of the models. I mean it's a great, flexible unit, but I find the tones lacking for me.

@p.4890 Ай бұрын

I would like to see you compare the Lion with the Marshall model in Helix.Maybe even try to recreate the UAD’s Bold as Jimi preset in the Helix too.

@ThePlanarchist Ай бұрын

Having heard how great the UA pedals were I was disappointed when I tried out the plugins.....there was some difference but nothing better. For the AC30 in particularly I was really surprised that in blind tests I actually preferred the HX version.

@nigelsmith721 Ай бұрын

Wow, that's an eye (ear/) opening comparison.... I have Helix Native but I rarely find a use for it these days....those UA sounds though...

@stevemorgan9626 Ай бұрын

Ruby sounds more like a real amp. Helix could be made to sound more like it, but there’s still something missing. Helix obviously has more options, but the amp like simplicity of Ruby is desirable as well as the sound. I’m a longtime and loyal Helix owner, but this plug sounds so good, may have to go for it. I’m assuming the other two sound just as good? UA plug-ins always sound the best to me; but I’ve only used their studio equipment plugs.

@mathmusicstructure Ай бұрын

I recently tried all the UA plugins and was very very underwhelmed. S-gear and Neural DSP all the way, in that order

@dash4786 Ай бұрын

It's a damn shame that these plugins aren't free when you buy the pedal. I feel like they're going to make that decision down the line because it doesn't make sense for me to buy it twice

@worthmoremusic Ай бұрын

Personally I heard little difference...Budget for most is key. If I had Helix Native that would be plenty. Exactly, right now UA has an amazing deal all three amp plugins for $109 or 2 for $79 so.... Love the demo John not to mention your playing ! I get one "maybe" email from UA a plus offers, codes for discounts a day...

@CharlesStratton-oi8ef Ай бұрын

I liked the Helix Vox AC30 model better, especially when you played some licks John

@sams5652 Ай бұрын

UA definitely sounds better IMHO

@johnnylayton1672 Ай бұрын

Yeah for sure 95% of what we're paying for in modelling tech is the UI not the tone itself, and brand loyalty is how it's most commonly evidenced.

@leavingsoulsBO Ай бұрын

I think it's hard to compare the two, because I feel they have two completely different use cases. Even if you can get them to sound alike, if all you need is a great amp emulation the UA is the way to go. Why bother with the plethora of options native gives you and that might slow down your workflow? On the flipside, if you need a full guitar rig on your DAW, stacking plug ins for amps, effects and everything else it's going to eventually slow down your session when multitracking; in that case an everything in one plug in makes sense and Native is king as far as options and even sounds compared to it's competition. If UA one day makes a plug in incuding all their amp in a box pedals, plus their fx ones which also sound amazing, then that would be a whole different story: the vast and growing but at times dated Native or the more limited yet high end UA library? I kind of hope they try their hand at that.

@benjaminashlin Ай бұрын

Good comparison

@johnplaystheguitar123 Ай бұрын

Hey JNC can you run both helix native and Ruby through the Ruby cabs and room? Instead of both through your usual cali v30?

@raphaelesteve Ай бұрын

But may be, before that, how do you run the Ruby through the Cali V30?

@johnplaystheguitar123 Ай бұрын

@@raphaelesteveLook alike he just turned the cab sim off on the Ruby and ran that into the helix native cab to do that. Maybe the amp sim in UA plugin can't be disabled to run helix native into UA cab and room sim only

@raphaelesteve Ай бұрын

@@johnplaystheguitar123 Thanx John! yes you can disable the cab sim on the Ruby ("Direct"). And I assume JNC is sending the ruby signal to the Helix Native with his DAW

@PersianRockstar21 Ай бұрын

I have a question for anyone willing to help.. I recently got an HX stomp and I wanted to know how I can go about livestreaming. I only have my iPhone and iPad and I wanted to get my foot in the door with either shorts or livestreams. Any suggestions?

@JM_2019 19 күн бұрын

The big selling point here is that you don‘t need to search through 1000 Presets. You want an AC30 and you get the best sounding one. I‘m actually more worried about the older Amp Sims from UAD - they don‘t sound as good but some cost more. Also: why didn‘t UAD release this vor the Apollo platform?

@matiasmoulin2126 14 күн бұрын

supposedly they are too heavy on the sharks. Weirdly enough, nobody talks about that but the latency is definitively noticeable.

@philf4086 Ай бұрын

No perceptible difference. Thanks for the video!

@Arthur_My_Dear Ай бұрын

There is a deal in which you can get all three new amp sims along with 9 other UA native plugins for £199

@DrBadLlama Ай бұрын

Can confirm UA emails are relentless.

@BOSSenjoyer Ай бұрын

Now that's a good price

@geomusicmove Ай бұрын

The Helix sounds brittle, bright and muddy all at once, quite an accomplishment lol. The UAD sounds vastly more refined and less artificial.

@marcpeiron_studio Ай бұрын

I think the articulation and real feel of UAD is quite better than Helix (sadly for me, who has Helix)

@CiuciumisLuci Ай бұрын

You can get close with the helix, but you have to tweak a lot, and i think that is the problem with line 6. You must to have some knowledge and experience with the unit and you need another effects (as multiple eq, compression etc) when you want good amp tones, closed to others devices. And i think it s better to have something more plug n play, and i hope line 6 to release some new updates with new versions on the old amps, or better a new gen unit 😁

@marekgitarzysta5193 Ай бұрын

I don't think anyone has ever bought Native at the full price ;)

@neilwarden Ай бұрын

It's only a matter of time before Logic Pro update their guitar amps. It's most definitely due an overhaul. I certainly wouldn't buy the UA Plug-in.

@benjaminashlin Ай бұрын

I wouldn't hold my breath. Logic never did very good amp modeling.

@neilwarden Ай бұрын

I agree, but it will happen. Considering the amount of amp plugins out there and the saturated amp simulator pedal market it will happen. Can't say I liked what I heard on this video. Rather just buy a Joyo American Dream.

@benjaminashlin Ай бұрын

@@neilwarden possible that they license something as well.

@zThisPlay Ай бұрын

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@sashafury2422 Ай бұрын

I don’t know why anyone would pay full price for UA plugins. They always have bundle sales. Easily the best amp sims. OTOH, I never use my Helix Native. Just seems flat to me.