Is the Xbox we knew Gone?

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Kevin Kenson

Kevin Kenson

Ай бұрын

Xbox recently announced the closure of multiple studios including Tango Gameworks and Arkane Austin, leading to many questions in regards to what exactly the Xbox Strategy is moving forward. While Redfall was far from a big success, Arkane has a history of strong single player titles they were likely going to revisit, while Tango Gameworks was Xbox's only Japanese studio and is responsible for one of their best received games of the past decade: HiFi Rush. Is Xbox abandoning these developers in favor of focusing on big hit guaranteed sellers like Call of Duty? And what does this mean for all the studios with something to show at their upcoming Xbox Summer Showcase? Some thoughts.
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@michael423
@michael423 Ай бұрын
I really believe after the Activision buy out, the Xbox division is on Microsoft’s high up executives radar, it’s not just a line item in their spread sheet anymore. They want their 69B back and they now want this department to be profitable.
@baraddur7664
@baraddur7664 Ай бұрын
That is exactly what is happening now.
@brentyetter2216
@brentyetter2216 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately desperation is a dangerous weapon
@Shannon-ul5re
@Shannon-ul5re Ай бұрын
Triple A game development time is killing the industry.
@Sirwest299
@Sirwest299 Ай бұрын
Kind of funny now thinking about how much of a fight Microsoft put up to buy them.
@michael423
@michael423 Ай бұрын
@@Sirwest299 I’m not saying they didn’t want them or they regret buying them, just after spending that much, they want results from a division that historically loses money.
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
Yes this time for real. They've been a shell of their former self since the 360 days but now.. It's over.
@deiradinn
@deiradinn Ай бұрын
Over? Xbox makes as much money as Windows. They have mkre users than Playstation. The best ecosystem in gaming. Have you seen Sony's stock trend? SE leaving them. No new 1st party games in over a year.
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
@@deiradinn It's over in terms of how they've lost all goodwill from the gaming community (atleast from the ones in the know) and you may disagree with that but you're 100% in the minority.
@deiradinn
@deiradinn Ай бұрын
@@misterhoobomaster nah, they've done some amazing things expanding the ecosystem allowing people to play in more and more places. These things happen, did you have the same feelings when Sony cancelled and closed The Last of Us Factions? Helldivers 2 being removed from 100 countries, same as Tsushima. That's literally affecting gamers directly. Playstation also laid off nearly 1000 employees. People love to hate Xbox but don't have the same energy for Playstation.
@ri4906
@ri4906 Ай бұрын
​@deiradinn do you get paid to say this 😂
@D4NAFC
@D4NAFC Ай бұрын
@@misterhoobomaster They still charge you to play online and rob you in broad daylight every single day.
@maccagamingx
@maccagamingx Ай бұрын
The real xbox died after xbox 360
@louis1443
@louis1443 Ай бұрын
Not true
@jumpman2326
@jumpman2326 Ай бұрын
Facts
@UltimateInkling
@UltimateInkling Ай бұрын
​@@louis1443very true
@jazzratoon
@jazzratoon Ай бұрын
@@louis1443 Nope so true.
@talison461
@talison461 Ай бұрын
I wish we had gotten the Xbox 720 instead of Xbox one
@louis1443
@louis1443 Ай бұрын
It’s the shareholders who are responsible for all of this
@mikeuk666
@mikeuk666 Ай бұрын
HiFi Rush took 5 years of development & up to 1500 people involved..... end of the day it didn't pay for the investment.
@louis1443
@louis1443 Ай бұрын
@@mikeuk666 my point exactly or you too dense to understand
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 Ай бұрын
@@louis1443 go easy on him, he's an xbot
@nickstark8479
@nickstark8479 Ай бұрын
As a shareholders myself, I can confirm this is all going according to the master plan.
@The-Vitruvian-Man
@The-Vitruvian-Man Ай бұрын
Company worth a few trillion dollars doesn’t care about smaller games after spending 80 billion on acquisitions. They focused on mobile and live service games to make a profit in the long run
@yooniversal7770
@yooniversal7770 Ай бұрын
Xbox really in its Wii U era
@Mr.Chimpazee
@Mr.Chimpazee Ай бұрын
True
@elhazthorn918
@elhazthorn918 Ай бұрын
Isn't Xbox in its Dreamcast era?
@denvernaicker8250
@denvernaicker8250 Ай бұрын
Except the Wii-U could still keep you entertained with its plethora of options for modding and backwards compatibility and different gaming peripherals to interface with the system. Xbox is just a minimal pc system to play games with more restrictions and separations from a window's pc unable to side load applications like steam.
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 Ай бұрын
@@denvernaicker8250 *Windows
@gizmoxx999
@gizmoxx999 Ай бұрын
nah Wii U was better.
@Khalil-Ibrahim21
@Khalil-Ibrahim21 Ай бұрын
The main problem could be, that as a developer you can never feel safe. Whether your game succeeds or not..and this feeling could lead to a developer exodus A risky game Xbox is playing
@nathonso_edits
@nathonso_edits Ай бұрын
Yup, there is a quote by Iwata (I think? I can't seem to find it anywhere now) that says that game developers don't make great games if their worried about their livelihood all the time
@TarTarkus-un9nb
@TarTarkus-un9nb Ай бұрын
​@nathonso_edits I think it's fair to say at this point that selling to MS is a death sentence. I suspect Shinji Mikami (Tango) got out early because he saw the writing on the wall. I'd be curious if Mikami got anything from Zenimax getting acquired. I bet Todd Howard did.
@MachFiveFalcon
@MachFiveFalcon Ай бұрын
It should be a crime for a massive corporation to buy so many development studios only to shut them down not long thereafter. The consolidation of the games industry needs to be regulated like big telecom (aka AT&T) was in the past.
@12thMandalorian
@12thMandalorian Ай бұрын
As soon as any company buys another then redundancies follow, this is not new and not a shock. So the reaction I don’t understand.
@MachFiveFalcon
@MachFiveFalcon Ай бұрын
@@12thMandalorian I'm not surprised at all. I'm just tired of watching it happen over and over like clockwork at this point lol
@canadianguy1955
@canadianguy1955 Ай бұрын
@@12thMandalorian Selling these companies wasn't an option? Ah no wouldn't want the competition to put people to work.. So lets ruin 1000's of lives, because we are GREEDY. Microsofts xbox division could go bankrupt and I wouldn't give a care. They've been an irrelevant brand with no good games going back two generations of consoles at this point. Buying up Activision Blizzard, and Zenimax isn't going to change anything for them. They purchased companies that are all ready past their prime, and make old tired series that frankly I couldn't be bothered to even think of buying.
@12thMandalorian
@12thMandalorian Ай бұрын
@@canadianguy1955 you don’t purchase a company to then sell it, that isn’t wise business, whether we like it or not these companies are there to make money not be nice
@canadianguy1955
@canadianguy1955 Ай бұрын
​@@12thMandalorian Microsoft has been buying up companies and products their entire existence. With the sole purpose of making specific market push's. If they feel that market push has failed. They then close those companies keeping their IP or sell them off. They have no issues ending parts of the company if they don't turn profitable. Xbox even before the new acquisitions was one of the worst performing divisions within the company. It's been the worst performing console for two generations, They've also barely made any note worthy games or culturally relevant hits for those two generations of consoles. Most of the ones they do get to launch fail at getting the engagement needed, or lack sales. Spending around $80 Billion to get Zenimax and Activision/Blizzard. Is Microsoft's last ditch attempt to revitalize this under-performing divisions of the company. It won't work, and once that is obvious to Microsoft. They will stop making consoles and switch to a subscription streaming service available on the PlayStation and Windows. That too will fail like Stadia before it. Leading to the end of Microsoft as a player in the game market entirely. We are watching the last ditch efforts of Microsoft to make their dying brand work. It seems as of now they have not stopped the bleeding.
@marconihimself
@marconihimself Ай бұрын
Whats really depressing as a prospect is that the fate of these smaller studios seems to be tied to the growth of gamepass, since even corporate wasnt projecting any of these smaller titles to be blockbuster hits. It all relates to the notion that everything comes down to a percentual growth. A profit that is far beyond the operational expenses is not enough if it is not CoD or Fifa levels of profit, and this gargantuan profit must be even higher in the following period because the way corporate measures growth is by the delta of the current period minus the previous period. Its so bonkers that the actual amount of money you made on that period is not important if the silly little line is not shooting up. To make matters worse, the only way you can probably have the line going up in subsequent periods is if youre a live service product (a succesful one at that).
@walebanj8388
@walebanj8388 Ай бұрын
Releasing AAA games games day 1 on gamepass is not practical
@TihetrisWeathersby
@TihetrisWeathersby Ай бұрын
I loved the Prey and Dishonored games, They were some of the best single player games the last generation, Sad to see that studio shut down
@bigt4135
@bigt4135 Ай бұрын
Dishonored is a different team.
@Marksman3434
@Marksman3434 Ай бұрын
@@bigt4135I understand that the Arkane Lyon studio did the writing and art directing for the Dishonored games, and that Austin was the one that actually did the production for the games. Could be wrong, though.
@Mr-jj3gp
@Mr-jj3gp Ай бұрын
Majority of gamers never played them so 🤷‍♂️
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 Ай бұрын
*games. They (to fix your comma splice run-on) *generation. Sad (another comma splice) *down.
@fartoplata308
@fartoplata308 Ай бұрын
It's so saddening to see teams that made stuff like Dishonored, Evil Within, Hi Fi Rush and Prey be disbanded. These games were truly special and brimming with expression from the developers, not just some stale lifeless AAA regurgitations. The feelings are still raw from Eidos Montreal and the Deus Ex team getting gutted by Embracer earlier this year. Sucks.
@RevivedSaiyan
@RevivedSaiyan Ай бұрын
Those studios made only bad games
@tgopaul57
@tgopaul57 Ай бұрын
Prey and Hifi rush being 2 of those​@@RevivedSaiyan
@Flyeaglesfly215
@Flyeaglesfly215 Ай бұрын
Now everyone loved evil within 😂😂😂
@murr9704
@murr9704 Ай бұрын
@@Flyeaglesfly215These folks so fake bruh!
@mattmanley7118
@mattmanley7118 Ай бұрын
Both Sony and Xbox are really being clowns it’ll be interesting to see who gets the crown 😅
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 Ай бұрын
Nintendo. Easy answer.
@nightwingmix1
@nightwingmix1 Ай бұрын
@@earlyriser03 imagine blocking someone in yt comments lol
@nowhere529
@nowhere529 Ай бұрын
@@nightwingmix1 Zelda BOTW is probably my favourite game ever made, Great machine for retro games too with the best controller on the market and a snappy (Game orientated) UI that's not 95% adverts and spying.
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 Ай бұрын
@@nightwingmix1 imagine being a silly fanboy the last 7 years. You have my sympathy.
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 Ай бұрын
@@nowhere529 💯
@emanhero6311
@emanhero6311 Ай бұрын
I saw this coming, I haven’t bought a Xbox since the 360.
@DevinDBell
@DevinDBell Ай бұрын
To this day Xbox hasn’t released a great exclusive
@codezero7981
@codezero7981 Ай бұрын
Microsoft peaked with the 360, Sony peaked with PS4, gaming is dead now it's PC or Nintendo.
@mexitalianfourteen
@mexitalianfourteen Ай бұрын
@@codezero7981I agree in a way. I still think PlayStation is holding up good with its exclusives, it’s just Sonys practices recently are starting to get shady. Everyone is keeping a careful eye on them but it’s just a matter of time till they drop the ball like Xbox.
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 Ай бұрын
*an Xbox (because "ex-bocks" starts with a vowel sound) "A" vs "an" is determined by the _sound_ that immediately follows, not the letter.
@TheScrubmuffin69
@TheScrubmuffin69 Ай бұрын
Wow you're so smart🙄
@squidMB
@squidMB Ай бұрын
Its been gone since the Xbox one was released & revealed
@Jonnicom
@Jonnicom Ай бұрын
Thanks, Don Matrick!
@codezero7981
@codezero7981 Ай бұрын
11 years after that infamous reveal conference they never been able to shake off the bad press, it's like the ghost of Don Mattrick still lingers around the Xbox brand..
@InnerRise
@InnerRise Ай бұрын
Dead
@synical_gaming3863
@synical_gaming3863 Ай бұрын
​@@codezero7981Will if you don't like it theres always Xbox 360
@GoldChainGaming-ou9bq
@GoldChainGaming-ou9bq Ай бұрын
They had AAA games under Don Mattrick. Phil released a console without a AAA launch game, he should have been fired years ago, all that wait till e3. Phil’s a crook and a liar
@The-Vitruvian-Man
@The-Vitruvian-Man Ай бұрын
They're mostly focused on setting up their mobile gaming front and live service games (World of Warcraft, Call of Duty, Overwatch, Diablo, Halo, Elder Scrolls Online, Sea of Thieves). They'll have some single player games too, but most will be ported to other systems
@DarkTyyp
@DarkTyyp Ай бұрын
Starting to regret my purchase I made 2 years ago for a Xbox Series S.
@deiradinn
@deiradinn Ай бұрын
Dude, you can't be serious. Xbox's future is insanely bright!
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 Ай бұрын
@@deiradinn 😂
@earlyriser03
@earlyriser03 Ай бұрын
I knew even before I bought my Series X that it would be my video streaming, backward compatibility, and run-the-clock-out-on-my-cheap-three-year-Game Pass-sub box. Even though it’s been fine for me, I can see exactly why others feel they got a bum deal on this platform.
@alexworm1707
@alexworm1707 Ай бұрын
@@deiradinn if you believe in seeing a light in the end of your life then yes, bright indeed.
@bizmonkey007
@bizmonkey007 Ай бұрын
Get a PS5 if you have the money. I like my Series S but it’s better as a side console
@scootletawny3886
@scootletawny3886 Ай бұрын
Don Matrick’s tombstone will read: Husband, father, and Xbox TV!
@danny3120
@danny3120 Ай бұрын
The up coming Hellblade 2 is going to sell even less than Hifi-Rush because of it's niche audience. Will that mean Ninja Theory gets the axe too? It would be the last nail on the Xbox coffin.
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 Ай бұрын
*upcoming *its (possessive pronoun) it's = contraction of "it is" or "it has" Apostrophes are for contractions and possessive nouns, not possessive pronouns.
@alisardius1577
@alisardius1577 Ай бұрын
I think they are already axed. The gsme doesnt have any marketing so they can silently close the studio after release
@danny3120
@danny3120 Ай бұрын
@@alvallac2171 Ok grammar police, sorry for not proofreading all my comments. (sarcasm)
@canadianguy1955
@canadianguy1955 Ай бұрын
I owned the first one and enjoyed it. But when they announced a second one I was stunned, since it's such a small niche like game. I know it sold well for them but it didn't really scream game that needs a Sequel. If this game goes on Gamepass 100% they close Ninja Theory. Going forward I bet 90% of what they make are cashshop live service games, while they close most of the studios that don't make those types of games. I couldn't care less about Live service Cash shop games, and even skipped the Ps5 due to Sony's insane bet that every studio they have should be making one. I'll be skipping all current and all future xbox' brands and most of their games if this is the direction they are taking. They even upped the price compared to the first game, it's $70 in Canada which is far too much for a game like that.
@retrobear9367
@retrobear9367 Ай бұрын
I feel like it is. I rarely turn on my Xbox anymore. I booted it up today to make sure it was up to date. But, I mostly play on Deck now. It's a shame. There's just nothing other than the fact I started Hogwarts Legacy on Xb, thats keeps me going back lately.
@RevivedSaiyan
@RevivedSaiyan Ай бұрын
I've went back to halo big team heavies. Gears needs a sequel before I go back. I unlocked everything, now I'm gonna unlock the master chief damaged campaign armor from infinite for reaching hero rank. Not actual ranked mode. Halo ranked isnt Slayer only
@remakeyourself
@remakeyourself Ай бұрын
I worked at Best Buy when the original Xbox released. While I consider myself a Nintendo gamer above all else, I've always owned every Xbox and played a ton of games, I am definitely a profitable consumer of Xbox. I could be hot and cold on their strategy, acquisitions, all of that - for many of the same reasons you shared, but last week's closures were absolutely a tipping point for me. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna go on some tangent online about plastic boxes and blue vs green or whatever, but it does mean that Xbox has lost my trust: I no longer believe "next year is the year", it's been too long, with too little to show, and then as soon as they started showing some decent momentum, they close the studio who made their best game since 2021...and if you take Forza out of the picture, easily my favorite Xbox game since Sunset Overdrive. Throw in their games going everywhere, and personally I find it a heck of a lot easier to support anyone besides Microsoft. I really think they'll live to regret these decisions.
@Surosevic92
@Surosevic92 Ай бұрын
I agree with you since Sunset overdrive Ms/Xbox did not have a system seller games Anyone is better then them at this point.
@andyscoming4919
@andyscoming4919 Ай бұрын
I’m with you, I’m definitely switching to PC next generation. Seems to be the only platform that gets the best of all worlds. I just with there was an easy “spend $800-$1000 for a PC, take home plug into TV and sit on the couch for hours” way of getting into PC. I’ll have to, however wish I didn’t, research drivers/GPUs/CPUs/Windows/etc.
@zebbyknight3791
@zebbyknight3791 Ай бұрын
I would say yes. Even Microsoft hinted that they had lost the console war, and it seemed like they had retired from making exclusive games. The cross-platform multiplayer, what's the point of Xbox live. I would only buy the Xbox one series X new gen for emulation only if I didn't have a gaming pc
@charlesshamseldin9555
@charlesshamseldin9555 Ай бұрын
Glad I left xbox behind this generation. I have a lot of great memories with this platform. It is a smoking husk of its former self. Gonna go play Prey:Mooncrash again on my PS5 in memoriam of Arkane.
@domymbd
@domymbd Ай бұрын
So you got a PS5 to play Xbox games?
@charlesshamseldin9555
@charlesshamseldin9555 Ай бұрын
@@domymbdI still have all my legacy xbox consoles and their respective software. I switched to the playstation ecosystem this generation for reasons. edit: Prey came out well before MS acquired Bethesda.
@guyuser81
@guyuser81 Ай бұрын
Wait a second…you’re that guy from that PlayStation video from CNBC!
@kephirbaron
@kephirbaron Ай бұрын
It still dumbfounds me that: Xbox has shut down more studios than they released games this year They said they needed more games like hi-fi rush, A FEW DAYS AFTER SHUTTING DOWN TANGO And 2 months BEFORE shutting them down, someone had talked to tango and said that they were excited to work with them in the future of xbox It really shows how this decision was done basically last second, because the graph started to go down, shareholders got mad that they're making a tiny bit less than previous years so they demanded cuts.
@SuperShowDowns
@SuperShowDowns Ай бұрын
Moved over to ps5 few months back from xbox off 16 years , most fun ive had in gaming ever, helldivers , days gone, ghosts of Tsushima,ratchet and clank, spiderman, God of way, last of us and many more, literally the best games ive ever played , and paired with excellent haptics on the controller.
@S20ney
@S20ney Ай бұрын
I am now at a point where I'm thinking of getting rid of my console and getting a pc for the living room TV, good or bad idea?
@bastianwalter9269
@bastianwalter9269 Ай бұрын
Good idea! I bought a gaming laptop 2 years ago and a laptop stand. It now sits comfortably next to my tv. Steam, GOG, EGS, Retroarch, XCloud/Xbox for PC… oh the possibilities. I still have my series X for all of my backlog games, bc games and to play multiplayer with my friends once a week. But I haven‘t bought a game in a while on the console. I don‘t regret it a bit. The only thing is: I have to turn on the laptop, but hey 🤷🏻. So for me, I like it quite a bit, also since I‘m now able to game wherever I want. I‘m completely happy. Other people might disagree or prefer other options.
@volt8ge
@volt8ge Ай бұрын
I regret being an Xbox user after all this! I should have stayed with PlayStation and Nintendo! These last three years have been 💩 😭
@retro_ed746
@retro_ed746 Ай бұрын
No need regret anything. I have owned PS1,PS2,P3 and PS4pro. I ended PS plus renting service and moved to Steam. Now Stem Deck replaced PS4pro and it is my main platform. With dock it is console paired to big television. Cheap prizes and no monthly fees. And huge backwards compatibility. And emulators are working. And, and....
@JDillander91
@JDillander91 Ай бұрын
Yes it is. They are becoming the villain.
@nightwingmix1
@nightwingmix1 Ай бұрын
I want an underdog story some day. for now?? gonna sell my series x when the PS5 Pro drops and just stick w the gyro controls, dualsense rumble, and PS3 GoW (not a fan of new God of War sry)
@nightwingmix1
@nightwingmix1 Ай бұрын
oh, and PSVR2. fat dubski
@frankhurtado2565
@frankhurtado2565 Ай бұрын
They’re all villains these days
@CoryHotWheelz
@CoryHotWheelz Ай бұрын
It would be cool if they made a version of windows on Xbox where you can access steam and epic games. I think that it would sell well considering not everyone can afford a high end pc.
@RandolphNwaiwu
@RandolphNwaiwu Ай бұрын
I really feel there is more behind the curtains with respect to the closure of TangoGameworks.
@Psyclonus7
@Psyclonus7 Ай бұрын
I'm just here for that blue beanie
@prestonrcasey
@prestonrcasey Ай бұрын
Everyone was excited about Micro$oft buying everything up, but somehow I knew this would happen. I was never excited about them buying these studios.
@gianrhose
@gianrhose Ай бұрын
is it bad decision to get xbox now? i am planning to buy one.
@Captain-America92
@Captain-America92 Ай бұрын
Yup get a PS5, Xbox games are coming to PS anyway, matter of fact wait a lil longer & get a PS5 pro.
@RevivedSaiyan
@RevivedSaiyan Ай бұрын
Ignore the PlayStation fanbase trying to say Xbox is dead. The game showcase is June 9th. Sony has only wolverine lol
@codezero7981
@codezero7981 Ай бұрын
honestly no, backwards compatibility, quick resume, Game Pass, Forza, Halo, Rare Replay are a must have
@gianrhose
@gianrhose Ай бұрын
@@Captain-America92 thank you. I am now reconsidering where my budget should go
@gianrhose
@gianrhose Ай бұрын
@@codezero7981 that is the reason why I want to buy seriesx, backwards compatibility and quick resume
@TheVetThatCollects
@TheVetThatCollects Ай бұрын
I guess I bought my steam deck at the perfect time🤷🏽‍♂️
@Dragon-pv5oj
@Dragon-pv5oj Ай бұрын
I don’t see the excitement there some laptops close to price for better gameplay experience
@TheVetThatCollects
@TheVetThatCollects Ай бұрын
@@Dragon-pv5oj it’s just a better feeling.
@Dragon-pv5oj
@Dragon-pv5oj Ай бұрын
@@TheVetThatCollects I guess but I think it looks way too nerdy what ever that means, but to each their own
@whysoserious4464
@whysoserious4464 Ай бұрын
I still have My One s/x along with my series s and x. I'm really hoping Microsoft can turn things around, but until then I'll just play My PS5
@VaughanDee93
@VaughanDee93 Ай бұрын
Would love to know how many people gonna be cancelling their gamepass over the next month
@nounzein1981
@nounzein1981 Ай бұрын
Tango Gamework was Dommed when Shinji Mikami left with some of the creatives and developpers
@jessewarren9177
@jessewarren9177 Ай бұрын
The fact that Phil has been so quiet has me worried.
@tguerra4913
@tguerra4913 Ай бұрын
What is the return on investments is the key to the game no matter what!
@daveromero1457
@daveromero1457 Ай бұрын
So sad to see xbox fall been on xbox since 2001 to 2018 saw this coming just very sad it was so good back in the day they changed online gaming.
@malcolmwilliams3469
@malcolmwilliams3469 Ай бұрын
I bought a steam deck 2 years ago and my series X hasn't even been updated since.
@MalikethBB
@MalikethBB Ай бұрын
And you know, Microsoft devs also ban customers for nothing. For example Hoarcrux , he constructively criticized Microsoft's friendly studios and Microsoft fired him as a customer. These dudes are afraid of constructive criticism.
@pse2020
@pse2020 Ай бұрын
Yes.. now there is only game pass and microsoft gaming.. anytime now will the production of xbox end or atleast get new brand... Maybe game pass box or just series x
@Octav2000
@Octav2000 Ай бұрын
I feel super bad for Xbox gamers even if I really don’t like using xbox
@Mr.Chimpazee
@Mr.Chimpazee Ай бұрын
Ex-Xbox 360 fan here
@M1tZk1
@M1tZk1 Ай бұрын
I mean Sony did also close a few really good studios, but than you also have Team ICO, that is just allowed to do what they want, and even if the games don't sell much, it's a unique experience only available on the Playstation. So... I don't know you need to make a loss on games and the console to sell more consoles abd than make money from peripherals, subscriptions and online store sales. Xbox really needs teams like Tango to keep it interesting, to give a reason to buy an xbox. But their strategy doesn't support that. If all the games are also day 1 releases on PC and also run better on PC and are also sold on Steam, and are also available on Game Pass day 1, there are just too many reasonsn not to buy an xbox and not to actually buy the game on the MS store.
@neonswift
@neonswift Ай бұрын
Its all theory at this point. We have no concrete clue why they closed these specific studios. But with the leads having left Austin I can see why they wouldn't have the same drive to keep that company - It likely has nothing to do with their last project. Another factor is: Did these studios actually have concrete ideas for what was next. If a company is looking to axe devs, it would look at short, mid and long term investments and return on investment. Neither Tango or Arkane had announced a new game (I don't believe the other 2 had either). Stating they want to return to their roots is something you write on a post it note. Its not a coherent design document - though if there is signs of a new game was actually planned out, I'll eat my words. Its also likely these decisions came from on top. When you look at it through that lens its no different to Sony having this weird hardware focus that seemingly doesn't align with PS but is clearly driven by the larger Sony company. I don't really understand where this idea that companies are gotten rid of solely due to success/failure of a project. Sure its been shown that can be a reason, but its not the only reason. And its been clear forever that no one is safe in this capitalist world, any thought to the contrary lacks a appreciation for how capitalism dictates everything. Axing of 3 devs is also not a sign of an Xbox brand collapse as many melodramatic doom seekers seem to be stating. They have plenty of games still on their roster. None of this is right, but as someone who has paid attention to this industry for decades its not as surprising as everyone is making it out to be. Xbox wasn't special, its no different than any publicly traded company. The loss of jobs is sad and must be super stressful for all involved, so I totally understand where the anger is coming from but I have issue with the lack of focus. I'd personally prefer a world where they can loop devs and resources back into existing companies, as they did with the fourth developer, but again thats not something that clearly is on the cards in the US. One of my gripes with the conversation, is that people are talking about these studios like they were somehow special compared to others that have been lost. Its telling that most people are commenting on Tango and Austin but don't seem to have acknowledged what the other 2 are. Its not a healthy view on the industry: They are ALL special and just because you subjectively like a piece of their work shouldn't impact the disdain you feel for Xbox (Sony, or any of these other companies dropping talent), otherwise it just comes off that you're more upset about not seeing a Prey sequel than the actual loss of talent and livelihood. I appreciate your view on the subject Kevin.
@cheddarbuttersworth2441
@cheddarbuttersworth2441 Ай бұрын
Jeez. If they close Obsidian I am selling my xbox.
@HizashiXevileye
@HizashiXevileye Ай бұрын
With elder scrolls you have to look at it was once multi platform so it’s probably not gonna sell well on one platform
@Swordslinger-hb1ns
@Swordslinger-hb1ns Ай бұрын
That settles it, Bethesda needs to break away from Microsoft and become a private company again. Cuz’ apparently this partnership isn’t working out for them if they’re closing studios they own.
@josephsaga
@josephsaga Ай бұрын
Nah they cant its to late. Its because of xbox fans that let this happen. Playstation fans knew this is bad idea
@angus_bangus
@angus_bangus Ай бұрын
It is crazy to me that modern coporations fail to understand the concept of company morale as well as brand loyalty built up through trust. If you want smash releases like Elden Ring or Balders Gate. You NEED to let your studios do their thing and treat the community fairly. FromSoftware is a strong studio BECAUSE they have yet to make a game in the last 10 years that fully betrayed the trust of their fans. Then there's WB with Rocksteady who have just thrown away all that fan trust for an always online shit show. Microsoft looked like they were positioned to do great things in the coming years. They threw that away for a short term gain.
@Crusty783
@Crusty783 Ай бұрын
yes.
@dangerdude19
@dangerdude19 Ай бұрын
I want an Evil Within 3
@aussiemario7982
@aussiemario7982 Ай бұрын
We might still get it
@heymrzanzeeba
@heymrzanzeeba Ай бұрын
Imagine if movie studios under the Hollywood umbrella shut down after one flop? That might actually be a good thing in that case though haha
@mauroveliz23
@mauroveliz23 Ай бұрын
The only game that had me on Xbox was Forza Motorsport, but with last year's release I'm definitely switching to Gran Turismo.
@derekgella1722
@derekgella1722 Ай бұрын
The xbox leadership probably aren't the ones doing the financial analysis work. That is being done in another department, and then an executive with more authority is making these decisions.
@adverse1014
@adverse1014 Ай бұрын
what is happening with yt rn, 0 views 2k comments?
@damjay005
@damjay005 Ай бұрын
Bug
@josetomascamposrobledano4618
@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Ай бұрын
You knew them?
@guitarspud1723
@guitarspud1723 Ай бұрын
Why does this guy where a beanie? Dude its summer. Or is that a cool trademark thing?
@chrisboogie1762
@chrisboogie1762 Ай бұрын
Those franchises that were successful will return. Will they have the same spirit is the real question
@vexelghost
@vexelghost Ай бұрын
Xbox is run by Microsoft higher ups now. I expect the brand to go the way of Zune and just become Microsoft Gaming.
@codyl1992
@codyl1992 Ай бұрын
Great analysis
@Peterstarzynskitech
@Peterstarzynskitech Ай бұрын
I feel like exclusives as a whole is gonna die out.
@brandonzzz1
@brandonzzz1 Ай бұрын
You gotta take into account Xbox invest about 78 billion in gaming and they gotta be big changes to make that money back
@noiisserpmii
@noiisserpmii Ай бұрын
Can we just bring back the 360 & all those games?
@SpiderLuke
@SpiderLuke Ай бұрын
Sure. Plug it in.
@noiisserpmii
@noiisserpmii Ай бұрын
@@SpiderLuke if i had one
@codezero7981
@codezero7981 Ай бұрын
more like can we bring back Peter Moore and the awesome executive team that was behind the Xbox 360
@gamerspeaks711
@gamerspeaks711 Ай бұрын
Two years is a long time in gaming especially with a global recession going on around us, gaming is not immune to such pressures in fact gaming is now a luxury hobby. Xbox has to protect its investment which is a shame because I must have been one of the very few that liked RedFall, we do not know what strategy Xbox is using now but I for one think the CMA changed it so lets see what happens. Is Xbox dead? no its still in a better place when it was in 2013, its has more 1st party genres than any other gaming console and is cheaper to get in and play than any other console.
@josephsaga
@josephsaga Ай бұрын
I think microsoft bought bethesda and ABK because of Fallout, Skyrim, Call of duty, world of warcraft, diablo, overwatch, league of legends, candy crunch. The games that are popular that they can easy profit of it. The rest of small IP they will shutdown the devs who made those games and cant make profit out of it
@ShankMods
@ShankMods Ай бұрын
We have a product for people who want a good console, it's called Xbox 360
@savaget2058
@savaget2058 29 күн бұрын
Xbox deserves to have Kendrick make a diss record about them 😂
@onikusanagi
@onikusanagi Ай бұрын
Dunno what could bring Xbox success in Japan vs Sony...Apple is long time number one smartphone seller in Japan vs the same Sony...😐
@Manuel-rl6um
@Manuel-rl6um Ай бұрын
And Pixel phones are growing the fastest in Japan by a long margin.
@TheSpeedfoever
@TheSpeedfoever Ай бұрын
Xbox is not gone yet they still have a direct coming up! They can turn this around and have them back! Redemption arc coming i guarantee it!
@Mr.Chimpazee
@Mr.Chimpazee Ай бұрын
Just get a Pc
@elhazthorn918
@elhazthorn918 Ай бұрын
The bubonic plague hasn't gone yet either.
@Jdb63
@Jdb63 Ай бұрын
Oof
@Ice_2192
@Ice_2192 Ай бұрын
“Focus on smaller award winning titles” Could they not have done that without going on a developer shopping spree? They kinda shot themselves in the foot by buying so many companies and then closing them.
@ThreeB78
@ThreeB78 Ай бұрын
I think they should be trying to get their Game Pass onto Playstation In the way that EA have EA Play there already
@Author_Gamer
@Author_Gamer Ай бұрын
You make a point to talk about Arcane Austin and don’t even mention the fact that 70% of the employees that were working at the start of redfall’s development are no longer there. The old arcane is effectively dead and as such their past successes have little impact on any future games they could have come out with. Devs, not studios make great games and if the devs are no longer there, there no reason to believe any future titles would have been of same calibre of their past successes.
@alinasir-py4np
@alinasir-py4np Ай бұрын
What isn’t on a spreadsheet is how much it will piss off the customers / fans
@Vonklieve
@Vonklieve Ай бұрын
Reductions like this are hardly a surprise. The industry is shrinking. Microsoft and Sony are doing it. I think the market is correcting post-pandemic, and after the recent bout of inflation across the world...
@alexanderarce3341
@alexanderarce3341 Ай бұрын
who's to say SEGA isn't planning a new console the second Xbox stops making consoles.
@dvdsbl
@dvdsbl Ай бұрын
They've lost the plot together with the strong identity Xbox used to have. They might have money but also no vision.
@giovannicasillas433
@giovannicasillas433 Ай бұрын
I’m afraid for Xbox that they’re gonna stop making studios for single player mode basically they’re gonna go multiplayer online services I hope. Not.
@lorddeathspit1124
@lorddeathspit1124 Ай бұрын
They bought all the studios so they can have the back catalog for game pass, consolidate everything into Microsoft gaming and just be an app on all devices. That’s what the xcloud is about. Streaming you games to your phone or switch. Will it work ? Who knows.
@wilfredwayne7139
@wilfredwayne7139 Ай бұрын
It has been since 2013.
@Shannon-ul5re
@Shannon-ul5re Ай бұрын
Xbox is now one of the biggest publishers in gaming after the purchase of Activision, they should go completely multi platform with the option a console if you want one.
@MalikethBB
@MalikethBB Ай бұрын
And you know, Microsoft devs also ban customers for nothing. For example Hoarcrux , he constructively criticized Microsoft's friendly studios and Microsoft fired him as a customer. These dudes are afraid of constructive criticism.
@YaaSalty...0_o
@YaaSalty...0_o Ай бұрын
It's amazing how Bobby Kodik got bailed out and paid so much and now so many developers are paying the price because of Microsoft and their Xbox Executives failed to absorb this new company they bought without sacrificing other parts of the business. And ever since Game Pass came out I never saw it as a sustainable good idea. That mixed with games taking 7 years to make with unfathomable budgets with disgusting monetization structures to maximize profit is part of the reason why we are where we are.
@synical_gaming3863
@synical_gaming3863 Ай бұрын
The only way Xbox can fix itself is by going back to how they were in the Xbox 360 era. Now I don't think they will because Xbox is a lot bigger now then they were back then and I think that is what's hurting Xbox because they just don't know how to handle it yet and with Microsofts heads poking around now IMO is what's going to make Xbox more or less a 3rd party dev the only difference will be they will still have Xbox hardware for some time
@BruceRichwineJr
@BruceRichwineJr Ай бұрын
There has been a theme popping up across all these videos. If a development team doesn’t want to work on a game because it’s not their preference, then they only give a half ass effort. Redfall for example could have been good, but you could tell they put very little effort into its development. Maybe that’s the problem with gaming. Time to get rid of development teams that only want to make games they want to make and bring back games people actually want to play.
@TheSlyhound
@TheSlyhound Ай бұрын
No good games sense 2013, all digital future, No VR , nothing new
@Jackson_Harris
@Jackson_Harris Ай бұрын
The team at Xbox just doesn’t care anymore. I was once a die hard Xbox fan since original Xbox. After the Series X and the lack of exclusives I just moved to PS5 cause it makes a lot more sense
@JasPlun
@JasPlun Ай бұрын
Xbox never recovered from Don Mattrick.
@udaysingh9_11
@udaysingh9_11 Ай бұрын
Corporate greed ruined every darn thing.
@mikem2253
@mikem2253 Ай бұрын
They saw what Activision brought to the bottom line and forgot where they came from to become more like Activision. Xbox as we all know it has died.
@robotninja530
@robotninja530 Ай бұрын
Should've killed it a long time ago. Developers have been complaining for years that they can't make games the way they want because of the limitations of the series s
@ThorsMjolnir996
@ThorsMjolnir996 Ай бұрын
Everyone is talking about Xbox failing to meet gamers wants and needs, especially with losing developers gamers really love, but what they fail to realize about the situation is that these developers are no longer tied to a console parent company demands (exclusives, content alternatives, live update game on the parent companies behalf), and may actually go back to making quality AAA games now that they’re not tied to constraints. Better games are once again ahead from these publishers since they no longer need to fill a mold they’re told to fill, and they won’t be under very short, strict deadlines. Also, this is going to affect PlayStation heavily as well, you’re just not seeing the ripples yet. Also, with Xbox becoming more like a PC platform and allowing steam on the platform, it will open up a whole lot, more developers that are independent on steam to be played on platforms. The gaming will be massive at that point with integrating steam. Also turning this into more of a pc focus will bring high end computer games, not most were not able to play before because of hardware limitations being out of price or reach of gamers, will now utilize the Xbox series x consoles hardware and software to run these demanding games at a fraction of the cost of a gamer having to build a high-end pc. Yes there are some negatives to what Xbox is doing. I’m not saying there isn’t but I believe that there are more positive that people are not focusing on that should have a light shine on them.
@harrybenson3400
@harrybenson3400 Ай бұрын
I hope the crowd start booing at the Xbox showcase
@dominickdicarlo1191
@dominickdicarlo1191 Ай бұрын
Wow Kevin so glad you’ve realized finally that corporations are evil!
@dampayload
@dampayload Ай бұрын
it's so over
@appletech7272
@appletech7272 Ай бұрын
Yes sold my series x and s and got rid of game pass😊
@TSMO915
@TSMO915 Ай бұрын
Bethesda invented Microtransactions
@MrLuizsaluti
@MrLuizsaluti Ай бұрын
Microsoft has potential to become the ultimate Sony. Securing exclusive third party games and keeping everything exclusive first party wise. I really hope the next CEO doesn't have this kind of vision. Because there is an imense studio arsenal and money to make that happen. Instead, I would love to see xbox become a sandbox that you can deploy into any PC. Fully retrocompatible with its own dashboard. And gamepass is amazing for us third word folks.
@sullysuvann1380
@sullysuvann1380 Ай бұрын
They were gone with Xbox one
@jamesroy791
@jamesroy791 Ай бұрын
Xbox s soul died during the Xbox one
@nowhere529
@nowhere529 Ай бұрын
It was Myurdered by Dom Mattrick and co.
@MalikethBB
@MalikethBB Ай бұрын
And you know, Microsoft devs also ban customers for nothing. For example Hoarcrux , he constructively criticized Microsoft's friendly studios and Microsoft fired him as a customer. These dudes are afraid of constructive criticism.
@bryanbx87
@bryanbx87 Ай бұрын
Xbox has always been a huge part of my life and my friends lives. This is not the Xbox we grew up with and know. very disappointed.
@gilbert8667
@gilbert8667 Ай бұрын
The only way to fix this is release games, it's been 6 years since all these accusations and we still haven't seen shit, where are they all at, Hellblade 2 is an 8-hour game and it's been in development for 6 years.
@F14foreverF14
@F14foreverF14 Ай бұрын
Yup...Long Dead and buried ⚰
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