Is There a Point of No Return for Wrestlers Who Get Cancelled?

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Just Alyx

Just Alyx

Күн бұрын

In this video, I delve into the stories of 11 wrestlers who encountered cancellation, examining whether there's a definitive point of no return. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more content!
Introduction - 0:00
Hulk Hogan - 1:40
Ric Flair - 6:05
Chris Benoit - 10:00
Jimmy Superfly Snuka - 13:10
Velveteen Dream - 15:40
Jim Cornette - 18:10
Joey Ryan - 20:00
Vickie Guerrero - 22:00
Marty Scurll - 24:30
Tessa Blanchard - 26:00
Vince McMahon - 28:35
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@JustAlyx
@JustAlyx 6 ай бұрын
Two mistakes were revealed in the video that I am now just catching: 1) "Some black basketball player." The black guy that Brooke Hogan dated was not a basketball player. That's what Hogan said he wanted him to be. A misread on my part. 2) The Jim Cornette incident where he was fired from NWA did not take place in 2021. It took place in 2019. Apologies. I will fix these mistakes in post-editing now. The video may be out of sync for a bit but it should be fixed in an hour or so.
@gladysgallaraga3773
@gladysgallaraga3773 6 ай бұрын
I bet in the Next Two Years Vince Mcmahon will appear on WWE TV and the Crowd would cheer him
@RuneRaged
@RuneRaged 6 ай бұрын
I think that Paul Heyman has the best quote on Chris Benoit "3 people died in that house, only 1 of them had a choice"
@kennythetrend3688
@kennythetrend3688 6 ай бұрын
I still disagree with this. Benoit with a clear and healthy mind would have NEVER made that choice.
@JacksonLane02
@JacksonLane02 6 ай бұрын
​@@kennythetrend3688 keywords would have. Sure it's possible if his brain wasn't what it was that the Benoit tragedy wouldn't have happened but people who have a similar brain patter to what Benoit had most likely don't kill their significant other their own child then themselves
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 6 ай бұрын
​@@kennythetrend3688how do you know that. You didn't know him personally. There are plenty of former athletes who had cte who didn't do what Benoit did. You can appreciate his in ring career privately If you so choose but in no way or no form should he be publicly celebrated ever again. He may not not have been a monster his entire life....but his last act on earth made him one. Cte is no excuse for murdering your family
@dal1947
@dal1947 6 ай бұрын
@@kennythetrend3688 the thing is, I use to believe this same thing and then I found out that he had tied up his wife and broke her spine before killing her, that was not acting out of rage and randomly snapping
@didimatjila7463
@didimatjila7463 6 ай бұрын
​@@madddoggnogood1491 ya and because he didn't want to face the consequences of going to jail/asylum/prison and face the world after killing his family.he committed suicide like a coward
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 6 ай бұрын
Years later, people should drop certain things such as words
@mralir.s3711
@mralir.s3711 6 ай бұрын
Great video Alyx you should do more videos like this in the future. Keep it up my fellow 90s kid 👍
@Aizenborgman
@Aizenborgman 6 ай бұрын
A while ago, I watched a video of the African-American wrestler KOKO B. Ware. He said that when he was expelled from WWE in the past due to a problem with one of the officials because he defended Shawn Michaels. KOKO called Hulk Hogan and asked for Hogan's help to return to his job. KOKO said that Hulk Hogan told him (if you don't come back, I won't work either), and indeed Hogan convinced Vince McMahon to give KOKO his job Back. Therefore, we have to judge people by their actions and not judge them in a moment of anger. Yes, what Hogan said was a big mistake, but his actions indicate that he is not a racist. When any of us gets angry, he says harsh words that he later regrets
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 6 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Should a person be judged by thier worst moment . No. Weve all said abd done stupid shit. But if you listen to hogan. He's not sorry he Said. He's sorry he got filmed saying it. Even when he gave a big speech to the wwe locker room he was only apologizing for getting filmed and told everyone to watch thier backs He meant everything Said. And just because you do one good thing for a black person doesn't mean you love all of us. Should hogan be forgiven. Sure. Should he be canceled...no of course not. You can't tell.the story of professional wrestling without him But should we just forget what he said no shouldn't.
@Aizenborgman
@Aizenborgman 6 ай бұрын
​@@madddoggnogood1491 Of course, I am not telling you to forget what Hogan said. You have the right to be angry. But I mean for you to look at the whole picture. Don't tell me Hogan apologized because he was exposed. Let us not delve into intentions, let us judge his actions. Hulk Hogan forgave Booker T when Booker said the N word to Hogan. If Hogan really hated the African-American man he would have used it as a golden opportunity to punish Booker T, especially since his position is very strong at the time in 1997 and his relationship with Eric Bischoff is strong, and no one would ever blame him if he complained about Booker T, right? Despite all of this, Hogan forgave Booker T. He even asked the writers to support Booker T and his brother Steve Ray. He also helped KOKO B ware get his job Back in the WWE. Remember that when he said what he said, he was defending his daughter, who was 16 years old at that time, so it is natural for him to get angry. Tell me, if a man made someone in your family cry, would you remain silent, or would you use the strongest and harshest words and insults ? When you are angry, you can say anything and then regret it. I will be honest with you, if someone caused harm to a member of my family, I would insult him and even use a racist word in front of him, because what I said was not harsher than what he did. Every action has a reaction, but the important thing is that we learn from our mistakes. I have many very close African friends, and I love African girls more than white girls, and I know very well that African-Americans are very very good people. I even noticed that they are more tolerant of Hulk Hogan than white people. Thank you brother for the discussion
@SwabySean1
@SwabySean1 6 ай бұрын
1:43 MJF does not like Hulk Hogan at all because he believes Hogan is a liar and "he's a racist". He also put Hogan over by saying that Hogan was a draw back in his hayday. Me as a black man I don't ever use the n-word because I know what that word means. And I don't condone other black people using that word to greet each other
@SwabySean1
@SwabySean1 6 ай бұрын
31:34 you forgot to mention one more person, Tammy Sytch "Sunny"
@JustAlyx
@JustAlyx 6 ай бұрын
If this gets enough views, I'll do part two, and she'll definitely be in there.
@SwabySean1
@SwabySean1 6 ай бұрын
@@JustAlyx good: Personally, I have no sympathy for that woman whatsoever.
@dquanissavage6287
@dquanissavage6287 6 ай бұрын
Awesome Stream Today Just Alyx!!😇❤️🙏🐐
@heavycloud6173
@heavycloud6173 6 ай бұрын
Had Benoit only suicided he would've never been blackballed. I believe they'd make an award honoring him something akin to the warrior award and probably be a posthumous poster boy for mental health awareness for the WWE.
@JCLopez209
@JCLopez209 6 ай бұрын
I agree 1000% that people like Tamina Snuka, David Benoit, Charlotte Flair, Brooke Hogan, even the McMahon children snd grandchildren should not be held responsible for what their parents did. Cause at the end, David Benoit didnt do anything, Charlotte Flair didnt do it, Tamina Snuka and Sim Snuka (Deuce from Deuce and Domino) didnt do anything, Brooke Hogwn didnt do anything, Shane and Stephanie didnt do anything.
@realityorfiction
@realityorfiction 6 ай бұрын
Haha you put jim Cornette right before Joey Ryan, he would not like that.
@kshinokevin
@kshinokevin 6 ай бұрын
Austin Aries; I forgot what he got in trouble for. Lars Sullivan was a former WWE pro wrestler.
@TheRealdealbay
@TheRealdealbay 6 ай бұрын
Austin aries no sold his match with Johnny impact at bound for Glory 2018
@starfox7673
@starfox7673 6 ай бұрын
Tammy Sytch indeed CANCELLED
@JackalHavok1992
@JackalHavok1992 6 ай бұрын
Drake Wuertz, Jaxson Ryker, Val Venis, Kane, Alberto Del Rio, Abdullah the Butcher, Hannibal, Ultimate Warrior, David Starr, The Young Bucks, Bradshaw, Quincy Elliott, Tony Khan, Rick Steiner, Dave Crist, Jimmy Havoc, El Ligero, Jack Gallagher, Travis Banks, Bill DeMott, Rockin' Rebel, Ted DeBiase Jr, Sexy Star, Yoshiko, Zahra Schreiber, Austin Aries, Lars Sullivan and DT Porter.
@Themexicanboi333
@Themexicanboi333 6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget sexy star
@1992geop
@1992geop 6 ай бұрын
ASF, Logan Stunt, Bully Ray, Michael Elgin, Grizzly Smith, Chasyn Rance, Masada, Necro Butcher, Ian Rotten, Cuerto, Nosawa, Joji Otani, Tomoaki Honma, EVIL, Teddy Hart, G-raver, the Dynamite Kid, Buck Zumoff, Low-Ki, Davey Richards, Dilf boi Dalton, Akira Maeda, Chris Hamrick, Nolan Edward, Tyrus, EC3, EZ Money, Kimber Lee, Octagon, Vince Russo, Dirty Ron McDonald, Tammy Sytch, Josh Bodom, Raven, Konnan, Disco Inferno, Lex Luger, Joey Matthews Mercury, Hardbody Harrison, BJ Whitmer
@kshinokevin
@kshinokevin 6 ай бұрын
The Eddie Guerrero / Chris Benoit (WrestleMania ?) celebration in the ring was quite heart-warming.... But....
@JacksonLane02
@JacksonLane02 6 ай бұрын
With Cornette he could get canceled but he hasn't due to him somehow being immune to it considering he's the Angry Grandpa of wrestling and although I don't watch alot of his podcast he is pretty gold and I feel like some controversial stuff more so about wrestling and wrestlers he says just makes him more immune to being canceled. Benoit and Snuka are the tricckiest I can see being canceled considering with Benoit you can believe he didn't do but then a question would be : Then who did? Feel bad for Tamina considering what Snuka did and I believe the trial for what happened would've happened bu then Snuka passed away. The Scuril one I feel like can be forgiven if he was in a relationship with a female at the or older than the age of consent. With Blanchard sure go ahead if someone who got bullied her forgave her then if Blanchard is changed then she should be forgiven. Flair is another one I can see being canceled but considering how it was back then then I would say it's fine now if he did it in Modern day cancel him. Feel like as long as they apologized and show that they've changed then outside of killing it should be fine
@theguy1233
@theguy1233 6 ай бұрын
Alberto del Rio Michael elgin should be looked more into before they get criticised.
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa669
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa669 6 ай бұрын
Nah.
@JCLopez209
@JCLopez209 6 ай бұрын
Also yeah one other thing u need to know about pro wrestlers getting cancelled is that once u get cancelled then u can stil get work but u have to do an Amber Heard and go wrestle outside of the USA like Puerto Rico. Thats where Marty Scurll and i believe Tessa Blanchard is doing
@BMitc13476
@BMitc13476 6 ай бұрын
Also Bill Demott I believe was fired from his coaching job in NXT and hasn't been heard from since then
@tonylopez2590
@tonylopez2590 6 ай бұрын
🎶D-R-E-A-M is.... Velveteen
@kshinokevin
@kshinokevin 6 ай бұрын
Michael "P.S." Hayes had a story. It had dealt with Mark Henry. "Dok Hendrix" (the Fabulous Freebird) had said something like he was just as blacker (because he had used the dreaded N-word) as The legendary World's Strongest Man. Fot that racial slur remark, the Freebird was suspended for 60 days by the WWE. Hayes punched JBL, who was already injured, in the face, on the infamous Plane Ride from Hell. On the same plane ride, X-pac had cut the Michael's ponytail.😂 on the Stories with Brisco and Bradshaw podcast, Theodore R./Teddy Long was the guest; he was talking about "the Nature Boy," Ric Flair. A legendary Pro Wrestling manager, Gary Hart, advised Teddy Long to get a knife, in order to stab Flair. "Damn !" - Ron Simmons
@kshinokevin
@kshinokevin 6 ай бұрын
Thunderbolt Patterson (a Black man) and Ole Anderson (who was apart of the 4 Horsemen stable, with Slick Ric) were involved; Ole spewed racial remarks against African-Americans. Disgusting. Hart created a knife for Long to protect himself from Flair. For some reason, Flair hated Teddy Long's guts. I saw some comments on Twitter/X, like: "Let Ric Flair be Ric Flair.."
@gladysgallaraga3773
@gladysgallaraga3773 6 ай бұрын
In the Next 2 Years Vince Mcmahon would be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame or at least.He woumd appear on WWE TV an people would Cheer him.
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 6 ай бұрын
People such as Excalibur and Kevin Owens anong many others have said racist, homophobic etc type of things but no one calls out the same things for others, just whoever is being pushed for others to believe.
@JacksonLane02
@JacksonLane02 6 ай бұрын
Owens and Excalibur have said those things? Well if they've apologized for it and have shown they've changed and have been forgiven then they shouldn't get canceled
@kennythetrend3688
@kennythetrend3688 6 ай бұрын
That's because both said that because it was part of the storyline with Human Tornado. Also, Kevin is Canadian and was in his 20's at the time, so I'm sure he didn't realized how INSANELY TABOO the N Word was. I was born in 2003, that HAPPENED in 2003, I don't think either of them should be straight up canceled. They apologized for it, AEW suspended Excalibur for a month for it, I don't think anyone seriously thinks they're actually bad people.
@BMitc13476
@BMitc13476 6 ай бұрын
What about James Ellsworth? I was never a fan of his but wasn't he accused of something a while ago and I haven't really heard from him since
@Hallofshame-f7x
@Hallofshame-f7x 6 ай бұрын
Jim cornette was actually working in the nwa in 2019 not 2021
@JustAlyx
@JustAlyx 6 ай бұрын
Oops. My bad.
@TheRealdealbay
@TheRealdealbay 6 ай бұрын
​@JustAlyx u missed half of the story with tessa blanchard she was also terminated by TNA wrestling for no showing slammiversary you might wanna go back and research what really happened because even after the allegation got out TNA wrestling still went through with her winning the TNA wrestling World championship just saying she is certified sum of the earth and she did apologize too Her victim
@SwabySean1
@SwabySean1 6 ай бұрын
31:34 the one that interviewed hulk Hogan Amy Robach got fired from ABC because of her relationship with TJ Holmes who was also a co-anchor of Good Morning America GMA3 round table with both going through divorces from their spouses.
@nicholaschristie8699
@nicholaschristie8699 6 ай бұрын
Another one on the list that should be shunned from the business is New Jack, simply because of how he tried to murder people (plural!) in the ring. Either because of an accident that HE caused (the Danbury Fall), or just because someone was punching him a wittle too hard (where he stabbed somebody 7 times).
@SilverBlade76
@SilverBlade76 6 ай бұрын
The only thing, aside from some political talk he does, that I’ve ever been ‘Come on man, really?’ With Cornette about is his seeming nonstop dislike of womens wrestling. I’ve never been able to find a clip explaining *why* he is how he is about it. But he still throws little jabs at them to this day for….basically just doing their thing
@rebal180
@rebal180 6 ай бұрын
I take anything Cornette says with a grain of salt. Political hot takes aside he also doesn't believe women should wrestle. He hates on womens wrestling all time. I still respect most of his opinions on wrestling more than anyone else's. Also I don't buy into the speaking out propaganda. It's just the me too movement of Pro Wrestling. Women wanting to ruin men because they are famous. There are accusations that turn out to be true. Like Harvey Weinstein but, for every 1 Harvey Weinstein there are 3 Johnny Depps. Now that garbage has reached the Pro Wrestling world.
@mrjh637
@mrjh637 6 ай бұрын
I think Dream and Enzo we're let got more because they were irritating to people in the company. Riddle kept his job after he was accused and was given a mountian of chances to be a fuck up. This shows wwe is willing to stand by you and they decided to not stand by Dream & Enzo. Cornette is canceled in my book cause saying you will do better and actually doing better arent the same. He threated Vince Russo's life over wrestling and since Kenny is bi he is both "twinkletoes" and is dating every joshi wrestler AEW has ever signed. Hulk's apologized in a cynical way but it was an actual apology. Tessa wasn't fired for racism but apparently wouldn't drop the belt from what I understood.
@comet6740
@comet6740 6 ай бұрын
Logan Paul should be cancelled. I feel like he can commit murder and still be in wwe.
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa669
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa669 6 ай бұрын
Its all about your morals and who you are as a person and what you hold as a character. You okay with supporting or even chilling with people who are violent racist and people that would make you look like them too? For what for whom? One life and wasting it waste of low lifes? Weird. No excuses.
@Shawn-zo5bk
@Shawn-zo5bk 6 ай бұрын
Logan paul
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034
@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 6 ай бұрын
Frankly it doesn't help when Alyx said don't take people like Disco Inferno and Jim Cornette for example. The same goes for people like Vince Russo and others. Stop saying these things then jumping on topics like this and making good points. It does not feel correct.
@scootertheuce.mychannel4pe477
@scootertheuce.mychannel4pe477 6 ай бұрын
I always thought one of the biggest ways to see if someone who you don't know for sure or seems cool is racist or anti black is date one of their family members especially if they have a daughter. I know from personal experience that you can know someone and their parents or siblings may seem cool at first but when they find out you dating their daughter/sister they start acting funny or worse even trying to keep her away from you! The hulk Hogan thing probably happens with alot of people behind close doors then we know. The ex LA city council president Nury Martinez racial remarks proves at least ALOT of that.
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