Is this Journalist being Targeted by a Sniper?

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Get my "A Very NORAD Christmas" Sweater here: www.bunkerbranding.com/products/a-very-norad-christmas-sweater-2-0?variant=44762593165443 This video first showed up on TikTok and ostensibly showed an Israeli sniper shooting a laser at a Palestinian journalist. I doubt that this is real because: 1. “Snipers” do not normally choose to reveal their location. 2. The PEQ-15 laser sight does not have a visible green light. 3. If Israelis were using a commercial laser pointer to intimidate a journalist, they would likely be very far away and the laser beam divergence would likely be very large (30cm at 200m if it showed up at all). Based on the fact that the PEQ-15 has a red light with a Beam divergence of .5 mrad, this is most likely another person with a commercial green laser pointer who walked far enough away 53-67 meters to make the laser dot bigger on the reporter’s chest. For uncensored video, check out my substack at: ryanmcbeth.substack.com Like my shirts? Get your own at: www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/ryan-mcbeth Want a personalized greeting: www.cameo.com/ryanmcbeth Watch all of my long form videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLt670_P7pOGmLWZG78JlM-rG2ZrpPziOy Twitter: @ryanmcbeth Instagram: @therealryanmcbeth BlueSky @ryanmcbeth Reddit: /r/ryanmcbeth Join the conversation: discord.gg/pKuGDHZHrz Want to send me something? Ryan McBeth Productions LLC 8705 Colesville Rd. Suite 249 Silver Spring, MD 20910 USA

[@Iamthelolrus]

They finally let you upload it on here!

[@hawlitakerful]

I think you have a bit of a conversion problem here .. 1600 cm are 16m or like 50feet

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

Another thing, that laser has a damaged glass. I have one right next to me, 725 on the light scale and when damaged, it flares out and looks shekel like.

[@TANKERKAT-AR-AR]

Hey 👋 Ryan, I wanted to Thank You 🙏🏼 For Your Service Both in Military Service, Protecting Our Country & Giving the American 🇺🇸 Public the Truth!! As an Army Veteran Myself, it is Great 👍 To See Other Veterans Educating Americans on how our Country works. And that Means The Military Especially 😊! Keep up on the Great work Sir, and the great Fight.. BTW. Army Tankers Lead The Way😂😂!

[@Tjalve70]

@@hawlitakerful I paused the video to say exactly the same thing.

[@robertsmith4681]

Short answer is no, a professional sniper would not use a commercial green lazer pointer ...

[@A1FAHx]

Exactly!

[@vokkera6995]

The thing that gets me about it, he could WANT to be seen, to intimidate. The only reason I think there’s credibility here is because the laser is huge, indicating he’s a good distance away. I also don’t think it’s a pak15, but rather a normal laser pointer

[@thetailgunner777]

Yeah the scattering of the light is so bad on that laser.

[@werfault4076]

Yeah, everyone knows that professional snipers use red lasers and not green ones.

[@robertsmith4681]

@@werfault4076 They wouldn't use lazers in the daytime at all, let alone visible ones ...

[@chetmcmasterson]

If you can see a laser, it isn't a sniper. I always wondered why movies do this.

[@SEAZNDragon]

Movies are a visual medium. Seeing that laser creep up to the target is a good if hacky tension builder.

[@jakeaurod]

Movies are communications. They have to communicate in ways the audience can understand. The brutish insistence on "realism" ignores this part. Historically, a lot was left to the imagination in both film and stage, as well as radio.

[@Herdatec]

SWAT sometimes uses visible laserpointers on their sniper rifles. This is to make the target aware, that they are targeted and make them give up.

[@chetmcmasterson]

@@jakeaurod I disagree. A film can communicate being targeted by a marksman by providing a view through a reticle, for instance. I think that it's lazy writing to illuminate a character with a laser, thus giving them the opportunity to jump out of the way or whatever.

[@Relkond]

The alternative in movies to seeing a dozen laser dots on someone, is looking simultaneously down a dozen different scopes, which may sound cool, but is a pain to shoot and edit, and doesn't convey the 'your position is hopeless' message to the person being targeted.

[@PirateFoxBox]

uh yes the signature walmart laser beam every high grade military sniper rifle comes with

[@molotays]

you joke but the vis laser of the PEQ15 is pretty much worse than the vast majority of civilian class lasers available at walmart or gas stations

[@PirateFoxBox]

@@molotays I really hope walmart uses this vid as a selling point than, lol

[@d3adlyz3bra]

@@molotays you are mistaking bloom for divergence. peq15 doesnt come in green

[@molotays]

@@PirateFoxBox peq15s are exclusively used as IR designator or illuminators. vis is either for zeroing or other minor pointers

[@molotays]

@@d3adlyz3bra i'm not mistaking any. i'm just pointing out that the peq15 vis laser is super weak

[@z0phi3l]

As soon as I saw the green dot I knew it wasn't a sniper

[@evilwelshman]

Okay. Not a sniper in the strict sense of the term. However, what about a designated marksman or other soldier equipped with a green laser? Some PEQ-15 models come with green lasers (according to Wikipedia).

[@amazin7006]

​@@evilwelshman Military never uses green lasers because they're way too bright and show a very obvious line to your position. You can see videos of the Egyptian protests where civilians were using green lasers to blind helicopter pilots. Green lasers are mostly just for civilian stuff like classroom pointers. You don't want to use green in any military context, you want either red of infrared because they are dim or invisible

[@evilwelshman]

@@amazin7006 It's worth pointing out that the PEQ-15 developers made a point to develop a green laser version of their product; which would suggest an interest and demand for one. From what I can find, green lasers have the benefit of better visibility in daylight (versus red lasers). Hence, whether you want red or green laser would depend on your doctrine and what the visible light laser is used for - if it's meant to be a de-escalation tool, then you WANT it to be visible and noticeable.

[@robertberatheon4213]

The guy didn’t seem to react to it… I’ve seen green dots in videos and pictures I’ve taken on my phone, could that be it?

[@amazin7006]

@@evilwelshman Those are sold to civilians, i've never seen a single green laser ever used in any military ever

[@CRTTekeren]

It’s kinda sad this man had to post this video so many times because KZbin would take it down.

[@R4idenXS]

Demonetized. Not taken down

[@Stopsteal]

Why are you slow? You just watched it.

[@Z_RE0]

@@Stopsteal "had to post this video so many times because..." "aRe YoU sLOw"

[@Markle2k]

@@Stopsteal He made a short pointing people to his Substack after it had been taken down three times. Apparently, he finally got through to the KZbin team

[@artnull13]

@@Stopsteal 👈Trumpian right here calling others slow 😂

[@TurtleChad1]

They don't even look scared. They seem not bothered by it.

[@hayleyxyz]

You are everywhere

[@SEAZNDragon]

I wonder if anyone translated the Arabic. If the laser was real it could be just a few friends pointing a laser at each other as a joke.

[@Raz.C]

@@SEAZNDragon Or settlers, trying to scare away the hated 'Non-Jews.' edit - ^ Settlers using laser-pointers, to appear as though a marksman has targeted the Palestinians, in order to scare them away.

[@SEAZNDragon]

@@Raz.C Well either these are some brave journalists or they know who is pointing the laser is friendly.

[@jaaandro]

​@@SEAZNDragon idk why he only showed this 3 sec clip, the longer one the camera turns towards the lazer and you see a bunch of soldiers standing around. Theres a short from @TRTWorld on youtube that shows the rest.

[@juststeve5542]

I think it's even closer than that, given the lack of tremble in the movement. Also at 19 seconds his helmet strap intercepts the beam slightly before his shoulder, showing the source is barely any higher elevation than the reporter is.

[@rogerbradbury9713]

I came to a similar conclusion. I judged the relative height by the shadow cast by the armour pack the journo is wearing on his chest. I think whoever was using the laser held it low down and probably by their leg, and if they'd been any distance away there would be too great a chance of somebody walking across and interrupting the beam; that didn't happen.

[@TheAirborneKite]

Yeah, same thought. Not a lot of clear info on this, but it seems like the wobble in a handheld laser pointer should be about 1% of the distance, so at 50 metres the point would jiggle all across his chest. It might be more stable if they were resting their hand on something like a windowsill or a car door.

[@molotays]

i would think that it is the laser bloom picked up by cameras. the effect is always a lot wider than of the naked eye

[@Markle2k]

I posted to his Twitter that I thought that it was a video overlay. As the “reporter” looked down, one dot became two.

[@mattkelly2004]

Glad to see the tube finally let you upload this video.

[@karlrobberts337]

1600 cm is 16 meters

[@themediocrates]

Or in American English, that's 52 and a half feet. That's no sniper. Explains why he's so happy in the video.

[@zacharyleonard9413]

the answer is 160m he used 10k cm for 1000m instead of 100k cm.

[@Pystro]

If you spot a math error, you shouldn't just check the math after the error appeared. You never know if the first of the two numbers that mismatch had a typo, or the second, or if there was an actual error in getting from the first to the second. The spot size is 8cm(*) at a divergence of 0.5mrad. That's 16000cm, or in fact 160 meters. (*) I really wouldn't call it 8cm, though. It does not fully cover the whole height of the patch, more like half of it. I.e. I would call it 80 meters instead of 160.

[@57thorns]

@@Pystro And allowing for extra bloom from the camera, half that even? Perhaps just behind the camera?

[@Pystro]

@@57thorns Valid theory. But if it was camera bloom, then the apparent size of the spot would change when it goes from the blue "PRESS" text or blue vest to the white label background. I do not see such a variation in the amount of bloom. Which means that the spot size that the camera shows is pretty close to the real spot size. But anything other than a decently good laser (which we can't fully rule out being used here) will make a larger spot. So closer distances than 80 (or 160) m or what you want to call it are always possible.

[@judgemental9253]

It seems legit when all you know about rifle lasers is the giant visible beam you get in call of duty😂

[@planetfixer]

bro at this point even call of duty shows a better understanding of the functions and variety of lasers used by armies. you have to literally grow up avoiding anything other than maybe the occasional action movie to believe this is real lol

[@bartmannn6717]

"Making a TikTok" - translation: "Making a sensationalist bull**** clip, that is almost always based on misinformation or disinformation"

[@Gyyghhhhjjjkk]

Tik tokers really think that every single sniper rifle behaves like tf2💀

[@x10mark24]

so you are telling me snipers dont have glowing red beams coming from their rifles? Video games lied to me!

[@MenacingWithVideos]

No. Videogames never lie. This is not a sniper because real snipers have a red laser beams that you can see coming from the scope. I learned that from a 007 game.

[@12ww37]

Payday 2 is so accurate snipers always make sure you can see where they are shooting from exactly, gotta love realism in our video games man

[@HungryLoki]

​@@12ww37 You don't want realistic snipers in video games. The closest I've encountered is the boss fight against Quiet in Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, and trust me, it sucks. A realistic sniper would be the screen suddenly going black, without any warning whatsoever.

[@jachymhalas8162]

1600 cm is 16 metres btw

[@Pystro]

If you spot a math error, you shouldn't just check the math after the error appeared. You never know if the first of the two numbers that mismatch had a typo, or the second, or if there was an actual error in getting from the first to the second. The spot size is 8cm(*) at a divergence of 0.5mrad. That's 16000cm, or in fact 160 meters. (*) I really wouldn't call it 8cm, though. It does not fully cover the whole height of the patch, more like half of it. I.e. I would call it 80 meters instead of 160.

[@lasombra120680]

No, unless he is like 5ft away with that "laser" 😂

[@TheDasHatti]

"laser" :D

[@tuehojbjerg969]

He is 100 meter way the full clip from nablus show that, also it is not a sniper

[@Chiberia]

lasers don't even really make sense for a sniper rifle - they have to deal with wind, parabolic arcs, maybe even the spin of the earth when they shoot. a scope with a reticle is significantly more useful.

[@molotays]

snipers actually use their lasers significantly more than their guns. the shooter often will have a UHP (75-125 mW laser) above their rifle for marking a variety of targets, though they are much less used because we assume the enemy has night vision now. the non shooter uses rangefinders which detect range based on lasers. not only that but lasso lasers (power designation above 300 mW) are used for air strike and aerial marking which are often visible under NV devices. remember that recon and intel is like 99% of their job and shooting is 1%

[@SioxerNikita]

@@molotays that depends on the sniper, a recon sniper team, yes

[@InternetLaser]

Another Pallywood classic.

[@robertward7382]

He looks more like a person who is goofing about rather than someone who thinks he is in any sort of danger.

[@tuehojbjerg969]

it is since he can see the group of soldiers in the checkpoint 100 meters away targetting him with the laser, he also know that they would not warn him if they wanted to kill him like the hundreds of other they have killed

[@Jasmin4901]

Because they are brave.

[@stinkymccheese8010]

I don’t think that the reporter would be that mellow if he believed he had a laser sight on him.

[@guygabriel6251]

It’s not a fucking ”sniper” lazer. Green lazer? Five second in the video!!!!!

[@Sahih-al-Bukkaki]

classic green laser they love to play with and even try to bother planes with!

[@nonnon968]

1:23 please note that Israeli soldiers are using green lasers on their rifles in this video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZW0l2OYjpyUjMUsi=4TJYoh6LE5A8IX1A proofing that Israeli soldiers doesn't only use red lasers but also green lasers as well and you shouldn't expect a Journalist to know the difference between a sniper a marksman rifle and a regular rifle with a scope on it

[@ottergreen8190]

What sniper uses a laser? None.

[@robertberatheon4213]

Not for a long range shot… and not on a long range weapon. M-4 all day long but not a visible laser… lasers just like tracers work both ways

[@NicBark]

Certain units of the IDF do use green lasers on their standard rifles instead of red PEQ15s so its not certain that this is a 'commercial laser'. However, the fact that this piece of footage was released without the footage from the camera pointed directly at the laser's source is a source of suspicion.

[@Yisraelamundas]

True, however the laser is way too large for any advanced standard issued laser. And on the full video, it does show the laser someone is pointing, however the lighting changes and the person pointing the laser now targeted the camera rather the reporter. Oh and, the laser guy must have gotten PTSD in those 0.2s of frame change because he cannot keep a laser still lol

[@SembeiNorimaki]

-What is your class? -Grenadier, yours? -Dude with a rifle with some kind of scope... i mean sniper.

[@jm-holm]

got beaten over the head by metric. meter, decimeter, centimeter. 160 meters is 1600 dm and 16000 cm. 160m is probably still accurate though, 16m would make no sense.

[@RayDaly-sm9wv]

No...what makes no sense is a country like US using a stone-age measurement system like the imperial one! The metric system is based on logic, and 1600cm is 16metres

[@ashtinpeaks9972]

​@@RayDaly-sm9wv Didn't know 1824 was the stone age

[@Theire1]

The US is going to switch to the span cubit and fathom now that Trump is back

[@kirk2767]

I can't even picture a centimeter. Millimeters, yes. (I used to work as a machinist and had to convert.) However, when someone says "centimeter," I just tune out.

[@Derubicon]

​​@@RayDaly-sm9wv all US customary units are based on SI units.

[@OutletVibes]

imo I think this lands under "Very Unlikely" rather than unlikely.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

That was an incredibly reasoned and thought out answer.

[@taj3968]

Not at all

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@taj3968 why not?

[@taj3968]

@@WALTERBROADDUS because he said this is not what sniper do and he forgets who he talks about as if there is no protocol they didn't break, second they did it many time and even shoots people while everyone watching, one of them was so trend in middle east of journalist look face to face at sniper her name was about "Shireen Abu Akleh" (she is Christian by the way) when she and her colleague saw sniper aim at them but still shoot at her even when he know they were journalist. There is other and many like this happens even before 7oct do you need more? because many recorded live doing so, but people pay western media to cover what people witness in daily life

[@GimpedUpNoodle]

Great breakdown Ryan!

[@Daxter250]

1600cm is not 160m, its 16m. 100cm = 1m or 10dm.

[@Asethet]

Short answer: No Long answer: Nooooooooooo

[@Dukenukem777]

Just more Pallywood silliness.

[@Z_RE0]

when one side would do anything to make themselves seen as "heroic", they're most likely not. imho

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

My cat must think I'm a "sniper"! Lol.

[@DrAHorn]

"This video first showed up on TikTok" I guess that's the answer!

[@Chris61136]

I know one will probably be out by the time you read this but will you make a video about the missile strike on Dnipro,Ukraine ? A lot of people from X, to KZbin are claiming it was an ICBM.

[@timh6845]

It was a shark with a freakin’ laser beam on its head.

[@ovo5326]

I don't see people comment on this but the laser is wayyyyy to stable for someone to hold it at 50m. It seems more like some sort of construction levelling laser with manual control. Hence when the laser moves, it moves following either the X or Y axis. Definitely not sniper.

[@Patriot-Eaglehead]

The full video showed someone aiming at the journalist. Whether or not it was an IDF soldier or someone else was uncertain. Some of the footage was a bit blurry. Looked like the IDF though.

[@adamJLM]

link?

[@liorgoldshtein2373]

you dont get it what they mean is clearly he is targeted by the Jewish space laser and is about to be destroyed

[@travisbishop782]

Dang, it's the hebrew Death Star!

[@liorgoldshtein2373]

@@travisbishop782 !!!!השם ישמור אותי

[@prideb4caffeine999]

Deathstar of David, you mean

[@travisbishop782]

@@prideb4caffeine999 that's even better!

[@TheAverageMountainMan]

There is no benefit to a sniper designating a target with a visible spectrum laser.

[@wallythewondercorncake8657]

02:57 16 metres, not 160

[@karma.2781]

it being posted by al jazeera is insane

[@billny5575]

You should report about the icbms launched to Ukraine

[@Ac22768]

Ryan, the IDF also uses the Meprolight MOR PRO which uses a green laser.

[@nbsmith100]

to add to the comments. if anyone in the group had seriously thought the green light belonged to a sniper their demeanor and actions would have been significantly different.

[@michaelw2288]

This is a Pallywood production, a manufactured dramatic scene of a fictional nature, with high emotional appeal to supporters, who accept as fact anything that aligns with their world view. Pallywood also puts a malicious spin on innocuous scenes. This may be the green AF assist light of a Nikon Z6/7 at close range; the kind of kit you would expect to find in herd of journalists.

[@KlASELI]

Pallywood? Are you Israeli? It is kind of disgusting to say that because even Israeli officials agree that the IDF has targeted civilians intentionally .

[@ne0nmancer]

@@KlASELI Sure, on the other hand, Palestinian advocates have also been caught faking shit for internet sympathy points (like this green dot instance) which damages their cause.

[@ne0nmancer]

@@KlASELI IDF targetting civillians and palestinians faking stuff for the internet are not mutually exclusive actions.

[@D1amond145]

Lies ​@@KlASELI

[@Rimu00]

@@KlASELI Wouldn't be the first time they got caught fabricate stupid shit that try's to look real and is just show and propaganda and you are falling for it.

[@johnnixon2504]

Just learned from a Trex Arms video released today that sitemark makes a green weapon laser that diverges very quickly.

[@jacky13736]

Hey Ryan, I know this is random and probably won’t be seen, but I would love to see a video/series of you dissecting ‘Red Storm Rising’ by Tom Clancy. I think it would be very interesting to see your thoughts on how that particular conflict would have played out. I know the plot is kind of broken by today’s standards, but it’s still my favorite book and a yearly read! I would love to see this and I can’t think of anyone better than you for the job.

[@BobatheBoi]

Also, when the laser hits the top lip of the vest you can see a gap in where the beam covers, which shows the laser is pointed at an upwards angle.

[@xanthipussofsparta6555]

When people think movies are educational documentaries 🤣

[@crustybomb115]

2:58 uhhh ryan? 1m isnt 10cm... youre missing a whole digit there bud.

[@kjfett3]

If it were coming from a sniper, it'd be mounted and stable, not waving all over the guy's chest. The visible evidence points to it being hand-held. This would further support the buddy standing some distance away pointing a commercial laser pointer at him.

[@tuehojbjerg969]

If ryan actually had dome some research rather than whitewashing israel, he would have know there is a longer video out there that show the full event, iot is from nablus where a group of israeli soldeirs about 100, is using a laserpointer against the press, So no it is not a buddy since there is video showing it is israeli soldiers doing it with a laserpointer, the only false thing is the tiktok claiming it was a sniper

[@ef2718]

For artistic purposes..

[@SioxerNikita]

If it was coming from a sniper, far enough away, that is mounted, it still wouldn't be stable. Snipers do not hold their guns perfectly still. But yeah, it's just a buddy doing something... but that argument is not good.

[@mindseyeproductions8798]

There is a camera feature where a visible green laser beam is emitted from the camera to help it focus on a subject,

[@techhawk1543]

Your buddy Netenyahu just got arrest warents fr him and his buddies !

[@terryl.johnson6647]

No...DONE

[@pastorjerrykliner3162]

Your initial statement: "As a rule, snipers don't like to give away their position..." is the basic problem with the premise. If a real "sniper" was "targeting" this man, he wouldn't likely know it until the round actually hit him. There is literally nothing to be gained by a "sniper" flashing his "green laser" around an actual target, thereby giving away his presence and his position.

[@Mash-NL]

If you ever watch football matches in the EU you know this laser. they are used so much to shine on players of the other team.

[@joshuaamado559]

Worlds worst sniper using a bright ass green visible laser xD Journalists are such frauds

[@athanatos154]

Doesn't all the jitter of the laser also show that this is not a sniper? A sniper wouldn't move around their rifle so much that the laser would move like that

[@arberg5760]

This looks more like an auto focus assist beam that is projected when mid range camera is trying to focus in low light.

[@MarjanKaykavoosi]

Glad that they let you finally upload

[@SynaTek240]

I wouldn't say unlikely. Seems to be pretty much to be very unlikely. Over a 20% chance that it is a sniper? no way

[@woofy881]

Seeing as you're a military man, I'd think you'd like to play Broken Arrow which is currently in Open beta for anyone to play free of charge. Its a military strategy game that i'd think you'd really enjoy

[@alejandroguerra104]

2:58 1600 cm does not equal 160 m!

[@wadeparker1452]

Nice analysis. Always enjoy your clear thinking and wit.

[@tuehojbjerg969]

Except it is based on a false premise and result ins false conclusions the FULLVIDEO shows it is a group of israeli soldiers at a checkpoint using a laserpointer

[@ef2718]

except for 16 meters not 160 calc

[@defnotthekgb8362]

israel DOES operate the GLIS LA/12P and LA/13P lasers which are used to warn civilians they are approaching a military installation, but they are exclusively issued to base guards(rifleman specifically) and the like from what I can tell online. so there absolutely is a chance this is an israeli pointing a rifle at this guy, but that would also mean he is within 200m of an active military installation so...

[@isousad]

Gazawood productions.

[@Jimleee420]

In the full video the camera pans around to show that you can see the laser being pointed from an Israeli roadblock, I would expect you to do a thorough search for the full video. It's not from a sniper like you surmised but it's from a group of soldiers sitting behind sandbags.

[@yabangeedamat1907]

very true but you shouldn't expect any better from hasbara Ryan

[@emperor-thesenate-palpatin5954]

It looks like a toy laser we used to play with as kids, and it most probably is.

[@johngardiner5206]

Laser distance meter fitted to the camera that he is being filmed on!

[@UFDionysus]

That is extremely dangerous to do that to the reporter. That beam got very close to his eyes numerous times. Lasers in the eyes is very bad. Also, I've been told that snipers, while sniping, don't use lasers. That is because lasers go straight and bullets don't. At sniper distances, the bullet drops significantly along the trajectory as well as being impacted by wind. Lasers are not affected by gravity or wind, so the location of the dot will not be where the bullet will go unless the laser pointing device can be adjusted to consider those other influences. Laser pointers on guns are only useful for close combat where the gravity drop and wind displacement are insignificant. That's something I was told by someone who would know and it sounded reasonable to me.

[@petergerdes1094]

Danger depends on the power. And just because bullets deviate from a straight shot doesn't mean that's not useful to know.

[@SioxerNikita]

You can use laser pointers for sniping, but like sights, you range them. If you are sniping at a distance of something like 500 meter, and it is of uber importance you hit first shot, then an invisible laser pointer is perfect. You sight it in for the known range, taking into account bullet drop. You know the approximate wind speeds, so you can adjust it slightly left/right, etc. The argument that lasers go straight, bullets don't, is a bad argument. That would be an argument for not using sights... "You can't use a sight, it is mounted on the gun, it only goes straight!", yeah, except, you can adjust the sight up and down to account for different distances.

[@petergerdes1094]

@ Whats the advantage? The reason to use it at close range is to shoot from the hip accurately without using the sight. If you're sniping you're looking through a scope which already tells you what's straight ahead. It's basically useless for a single long range shooter (excepting bore lasers for adjusting sights)

[@SioxerNikita]

@@petergerdes1094 Marking targets for multiple shooters to converge on, to be able to rapidly switch target after you have sighted properly in, and you also have a visual indicator. And you don't really "shoot from the hip accurately without using the sight" with lasers on ordinary weapons. Shooting from the hip is not going to be accurate, even without sight. It is to give you more information of where you are aiming so you can be more accurate, more rapidly, but not hip firing. In the CQB situation you can even argue that there is no point in the laser, because "You are already looking down a sight" (of some kind, anything from holo, to red dot, to an actual scope) "which already tells you what's straight ahead". You can also use laser range finders, and those can be visible with the right visual solution. Regardless, if you have multiple aiming solutions at the same time, all pretty accurately calibrated, you have more ways to verify your aim is right. That's the advantage. I could continue, but if you start talking about using lasers specifically for hip firing accurately, you obviously don't really have military training. You don't get more accurate hip fire from having a laser XD And even with a laser, you still aim down sights of some kind.

[@petergerdes1094]

@ "hip" was just meant vaguely to mean firing without a careful look down aligned sights. And yes, of course lasers have important roles to play in painting targets and marking them for others or even range finding (but that's never visible light usually IR). Maybe even makes sense for a spotter but not for a sniper taking a shot. If his scope isn't aligned correctly he should go and get it aligned because it's going to be hard to make a shot without it so there should be no laser from a sniper taking a shot.

[@tlgibson97]

The thing I noticed was how steady it was. Anyone that has ever held a laser knows how hard it is to hold steady. I was thinking it had to do with the autofocus feature on some cameras being picked up by this camera. Might not have even been visible to the eye.

[@robertstoneking7916]

You might check divergence on a green laser level. A red one I had was a lot lower than the pointer you're referencing so the range would be farther.

[@kenstr321]

Um... getting a little nit picky there, aren't ya? Our snipers are well trained. They do all the concealment and stocking. I've never been in the military so I have no idea. But my guess would be that if there was an enemy soldier with a scoped rifle in an elevated position, even our troops would call out "sniper!" Because it communicates the information about the location and capability of the weapon being used. Or do they get pissy with each other if one calls a "designated marksman" a "sniper?" I think you're also missing the fact that a laser beam can be focused to change it's convergence. None of that really matters. I definitely think it's someone playing with a laser pointer. The fact they sit around the patch is kind of a clue. Those patches are reflective, the beam intensity really increases when you hit those. So yea, it might even be a kid playing around.

[@SioxerNikita]

Not only that, Sniper can have multiple different meanings. In some militaries, a Designated Marksman would be considered a Sniper, and for that matter a Designated Marksman fits the definition of a Sniper. This is when the words are used for military roles, or "classes", which essentially designates what that person is intending to do. The whole hiding and stalking, and staying places for a long time is also more of a Recon Team, specifically a Sniper Recon team, but you can also have a Sniper attached to a Platoon. They are not going to be as focused on sitting in a specific point for a long time, but rather intended to move into useful locations to support the platoon. And "Sniper" is not even just a scoped rifle in an elevated position. That is "Someone is firing at us from a hidden position" "SNIPER!". Pretty classical callout. It communicates "Hi, someone is firing, I have no clue from where, limited information, stay safe". If you specifically hear it is a rapid fire heavy weapon like a .50 or something, you'd call out Heavy Weapons instead, but in general, if the shoe fits. Even more hilarious, if you'd be using a laser as a sniper, you'd be using an invisible laser, in some kind of spectrum that your scope can pick up.

[@kenstr321]

@@SioxerNikita Right, that's more or less my thinking as well. Ryan seems to get stuck on nomenclature for some reason. But I guess when your job is spelling things out for people that should already know better, it just comes with the territory.

[@SioxerNikita]

@@kenstr321 But he obviously doesn't know better himself.

[@kenstr321]

@@SioxerNikita Well, he tends to know more than I do. But I don't claim to be an expert.

[@SioxerNikita]

@@kenstr321 I don't either, but I can see the issue right there, and the most dangerous is a confident expert whomis authoritative, and wrong.

[@beastlysun]

There is another point that was not mentioned and that is when that person bends over to look down you can see the laser shadow from helmet straps. From that it looks like the laser is aimed from same level, as in straight. Not from top as it would with most marksman positions

[@SioxerNikita]

Marksman positions is simply the most optimal location where you can stay hidden, so that point is not really great. I have no idea why everyone is trying to argue really weird points that proves nothing. This proves NOTHING.

[@danielmoen1855]

It made it to youtube!🎉

[@bingo5694]

I wouldn't bother splitting hairs too much about what constitutes a "sniper" vs "a dude with a scope." 99% of people don't know the difference and for the purposes of debunking the tiktok - it's not relevant to the important question: "was he being targeted?" Just like you will never gain traction in a discussion about gun control by correcting someone about what constitutes an "assault rifle."

[@melaniejason3912]

Its never a bad thing to learn the differences tho

[@bingo5694]

@@melaniejason3912 that's why I said "too much"

[@SioxerNikita]

@@melaniejason3912 But the thing is, the difference is still wrong, because there is no perfectly set definition of Sniper. The definition of a Sniper is essentially just a marksman that engages people at long distances. Each military will have slightly varying classifications, and those classifications are primarily related to the role they inhabit. For example the whole concealment, stalking, and waiting for 4 days, that'd be something like a Recon Sniper, and the reason they wait 4 days, is not for an opportunity, but rather because their main job is reconnaissance, and they might have a secondary objective of taking down the target if they have perfect conditions for it. Snipers could also be attached to a platoon, more mobile, not running around with ghillie suits necessarily, and is instead there to support a platoon. A Designated Marksman is also even weirder, because depending on the individual, and his kit, he can fit the entire definition of a Sniper, but he wont be called one, simply because his role is not being a "Sniper". And then there is a callout, where in most militaries Sniper would refer to an unknown shooter from a hidden position, shooting. Regardless, definitions are vague, wishy washy, and even the military doesn't have hardline definitions for various reasons including practicality, politics, or just tradition. A lot of people throughout engagements used a Browning, scoped, sometimes unscoped, as a Sniper, because it was very accurate first shot. That would just be a "Dude with a scope", but they were called Snipers, because their role was... well... Sniping. So in reality, you can't really "learn the difference", because there are no hard differences.

[@koolerpure]

I’m not a sniper and I know it’s not real. That laser is too wobbly to be mounted on a rifle. Let alone a sniper wouldn’t use a green laser

[@Curmudgeon2]

a cat toy for humans....

[@jedwards1792]

Great analysis. Thanks Ryan.

[@melange78]

You can see on the movement of the dot that it is close.

[@Grymyrk]

They would obviously see it and react if they thought they were in danger. Since they don't seem to be bothered means it's just someone with a laser pointer and they are aware of it.

[@BeanDip2288]

Oh not to mention he saw that shit and didn’t even try to move, I’m almost certain if you thought that was from a sniper you would have some type of re-action to shinning in your face or chest lol

[@petergerdes1094]

You can put a laser pointer through a telescope or otherwise focus it on distant objects. It's subject to diffraction limit but you can go a bit farther.

[@taj3968]

Why are you not in jail yet

[@hadror13]

No one using green or any laser in idf

[@kellenwaters9087]

or honor.

[@snafufubar]

There's a scene in the tv show Generation Kill where a convoy is driving along a road and a target is called out in a bush and about 20 little dots all converge on the bush....and then the bush is gone.

[@CurtisLowe-oh8ri]

Excellent analysis!

[@fusushui]

so u still refusing to talk about the idc burning kids in a hospital

[@michaelflower6172]

I suspect it’s something more like a Laser DSLR On-Camera Shotgun Microphone, which uses a laser to detect sound in otherwise busy sound filled environments to isolate a specific individual! You can buy the at virtually any camera shop around the world…

[@JeffreyBode-w7o]

I wouldn’t want it trained on me.

[@rosedruid]

Did you consider that a camera might make invisible lasers visible in the recording. What’s the beam divergence of the invisible beam from the pack 15?

[@SioxerNikita]

You wont use a laser that is that close to the visible spectrum. Beyond that, if it did, it would be ultraviolet or infrared, so it would show up as either violet/blue or red. Did you consider that?

[@evilwelshman]

*FACT CHECK:* Apparently, certain models of the PEQ-15 does come with green lasers. *UPDATE:* There is also apparently footage showing where the green laser originated from. Can't the exact point of origin but it is next to a light utility vehicle of some sort. If anyone is able to discern whether that is a military vehicle or not, that would strengthen the evidence one way or the other on the veracity of the claim.

[@steveg8102]

Green dot lasers used by sof can not be seen with the naked eye. the gun/beam comes with glasses that you use to see the beam

[@SioxerNikita]

They also wont be green dot lasers. If they were green dot lasers, they could be seen with the naked eye, because they'd be within the visual spectrum.

[@gdemirjian]

Could be sun light refraction in the camera lens. It is in the lens taking this video so it would not be seen by anybody in the area of this video. That is probably why nobody is reacting to this potentially being a sniper pointer. Love your videos. Thanks!

[@SioxerNikita]

It's not, it casts shadows.

[@gdemirjian]

@@SioxerNikita but I've seen this before.

[@mazking1366]

It's pretty clearly a group of guys messing around at work.

[@awolffromamongus875]

1 million this week Ryan 🎉

[@wessexdruid7598]

Plus... Why would any soldier target his _body armour?_