Is This the End for Cody Ko?

Just when you thought the Cody Ko situation couldn't get any worse... It gets worse.
#codyko #tanamongeau #tiktok #drama
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[@SayMyNameAgain]

I was only 14 when my sister's husband SA me. He was 26. I knew my sister wouldn't believe me, so I never told her. It ate me up inside, I blamed myself & thought I must have done something to make him think he could do that. I drank the pain away for years. When my daughter turned 14, it was then I realized it was never my fault. My sister & him are still together, 20 years later. He's told many lies & driven a wedge between her & I. I know he worries I might tell her, so he discredited me behind my back. I don't talk to my sister anymore & she lives 2 blocks away. I know she's still choose to believe him over me, even though she knows in her heart I'd never lie. I'm 45 & it still impacts me. Don't blame victims. We often already blame ourselves.

[@cocomoco24140]

I’m so sorry this happened to you. You’re right, it wasn’t your fault and you’re very strong. Wishing you and your daughter the best ❤

[@evaskomuhangi8276]

I'm sorry that this happened to you. It's good you realised it was not your fault.

[@alisoncolchado3549]

I am so glad you’ve come to terms with knowing it is absolutely not your fault. I’ve found myself in a somewhat similar situation and feel the need to tell you that you should let her know. Whatever she chooses to do is not a reflection of you or even your relationship. He is the one responsible and should be held accountable if you can find the strength to come forward. Wishing you all the peace and strength in the world ❤️‍🩹

[@SusanH578]

I am really glad you came to terms with realizing this was NOT your fault! I was r’d by 2 men when I was 16 & held it in, never said anything to anyone until I was in therapy in my mid 40’s. I knew if I told my mom, she would have blamed me for what happened due to the circumstances. I always blamed myself for this happening until I was in therapy & realized it was NOT my fault. But to hold it in for so many years & never telling either of my husbands, I wish I had been in therapy a long time ago to realize it wasn’t my fault. It would have definitely changed my relationships with my husbands!

[@m_here1]

I'm so sorry that this happened to you. It was never your fault. I'm sorry that your sister isn't in your life anymore, especially when she doesn't know that this happened. It's all his fault. Whether you tell your sister about it or not, I hope that you take care of yourself and seek out therapy to work through your trauma if you have not already. I hope that you heal and gain peace and strength.

[@blurrydog1]

I told this news to my 17-year old sister who likes Cody’s videos. She didn’t really care, she said, whatever. Then I said, “imagine if a 25-year old man flirted with YOU!” then her eyes got wide. It’s SO true that kids are not emotionally and mentally mature enough to fully understand the gravity of these things. If an older guy likes you, it’s cool! Then you grow up and realize.

[@soupergiffy]

Exactly why many go after the youngins, they teach each other the tricks and what to say, yep

[@aristeele1043]

The thing that annoys me the most aswell is a lot of people will use the excuse of it was cool or the people around them supporting them will excuse it as they’re almost legal and know how to make choices etc or the victim isn’t reacting badly so why are you?!…. Most of the time the victim doesn’t realise they’re the victim until FAR later…. Years sometimes, and just because the victim has been groomed to not see the issue with it until they’re emotionally mature enough to realise the severity/grossness of these things, DOESNT MEAN the perpetrator is any less in the wrong for what they’ve done.

[@busykat6278]

im 21 and i couldnt, a 17 year old is like a child to me lmao

[@arissa1762]

​@@aristeele1043 exactly this. i heard a 12 year old girl say that she didn't care about the drake allegations and that he was attractive, and had a big... yeah. i asked how she knew that, and she admitted she had actually seen the leaks with her own eyes online. at that age, many kids really don't realize that they are not mature. they're kids. they don't have the ability to compare and understand how far they have to go.

[@zoe-fy2ys]

sadly no one ever cares unless it directly affects them.

[@claraprado5401]

To me, the worst part is how many references to Tana's age he makes in that collab video. He literally calls her a "teen" and refers to himself as an "old man" compared to her, he even says they are from different generations. He KNEW this was some creepy shit, dude. 🤮🤮

[@stephm5722]

SO TRUE, ppl are saying she was "mature" and "basically an adult", he didn't even think that.

[@Hawthorneheights888]

He really got a kick out of it like a true creep!

[@winniethepooht5776]

And they way he looks at her like fresh meat is SICKENING

[@stannosaurus]

​​@@stephm5722 doesnt even matter if he was, both thought processes are equally awful tbh 😭

[@charliewright6273]

I feel like this is always what happens. These creeps acknowledge how disgusting it is all the time, but always as a "joke" and then they just manipulate the victim into feeling like everything is fine

[@irismccartney7139]

The fact that Gabbies impression of "the guy" sayin "oh my god thank you for telling me" is a complete impression of cody is crazy. I can literally hear it in his voice

[@britaney8278]

Why was Emma Chamberlain viewed as their "daughter" when she was 16 but he couldn't do the same for Tana at age 17?

[@lolabrennan7570]

oh jesus. what a horrifyingly good way to put that

[@lesleycarlson_]

Their daughter who they gave vape pens.

[@TheHayes010]

Simple he is a predator and fully wanted to sleep with Tana.

[@_namasteshay]

I think a big difference is Kelsey was present and in a relationship with Cody so it turned into omg daughter. I’m sure if Cody was single he would have tried to sleep with Emma too.

[@jsaul6227]

Because Tana is for the streets

[@blehblehblehdracula]

Also a note: NDAS DO NOT PROTECT CRIMINAL ACTION. If you signed an NDA so you cannot mention this situation, that is NOT legally binding.

[@jaxj968]

thank you for saying this!!

[@c.t.o.4200]

It’s more nuanced than this. You can be held civilly liable for violating an NDA if it falls outside the barriers of sex crimes.

[@Bigbodipapi]

Lol tell that to all the politicians and celebs with NDA’s

[@marigolden_mariposa]

doesn't seem like you understood the comment you replied to. ​@@Bigbodipapi

[@zizojaezekeom3565]

​@@c.t.o.4200you slow?

[@sharihazlett3774]

He doesn't care that his wife is being harassed because of him. No longer beloved . Please keep showing this. I feel for his wife

[@notamberp]

there is no way she didn’t know about Tana, or Colby. I don’t feel for her anymore.

[@KF-tq2df]

Agree with the above comments she must of known for the past 3 years ?

[@mariya_tortilla]

some of you need to realize that even if she knew she still has nothing to do with the crime when it happened.

[@DanciingAvocado]

I've been wondering how she has been handling it. Is she sticking by his side? Is she looking for an out? I do feel for her, especially after they've just had a baby together.

[@craycody]

@@ItsMeBarnaby Not the grapes 😭

[@TAddy-wq3hg]

I am a 27 year old high school teacher and I was late to the education field. Many teachers get placed in schools between ages 24-26. This situation would be like a freshly hired teacher sleeping with a JUNIOR/SENIOR STUDENT! If we put Cody's actions in the context of my career he would already be in prison. Cody Ko's actions make my skin crawl.

[@brisarodriguez6265]

This is such a good comparison

[@cherylmorris7067]

Such a good point.

[@vibenic]

Omg amazing comparison

[@moonshinershonor202]

@@TAddy-wq3hg I remember my mid 20s teacher. She was a brick house. The whole package, beautiful, thiccc, smart. Would not break the law for her, Jesus is watching too.

[@moonshinershonor202]

@@TAddy-wq3hg because of the conflict of interest of student and teacher.

[@Les_lee]

I learned this week that there’s are more teen mothers than teen fathers. How you ask? Something like 70% of the fathers of teen pregnancies are 20 and older. We have a real predator problem.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

Omg! I did not know this! This is so disgusting.

[@psycherevivedby]

100% but it never gets spoken about because no one ever wants to hold men accountable

[@eeveum]

Absolutely disgusting. And let me guess these older men don’t support the mother or the child 🙄

[@terinrandle5084]

That’s horrifying

[@Bubbles-rt4zn]

I’m 27 and I can’t imagine HANGING OUT with a teenager let alone what he did…

[@TheChibiAerith]

Exactly, well said. When we reach a certain age in our 20s, we don't even see people below 20 as potential friends, much less romantic partners. One is still finishing high school and the other is already past university, it's crazy

[@jd7715]

THIS ! My stepson is 15, and mentioned how a sub at school who was big on KZbin wanted to get on live with him and play Fortnite and basically befriend him. I told his dad to watch over that cause that’s WEIRD! I think the dude was like 23 -24… what do you have in common with a kid? Smh

[@DiMagnolia]

Same.

[@Sursie_Metzger]

Exactly. Im the oldest of 7 kids and my siblings are 24 down to 8. So pretty much below 26-27 creeps me out dating wise because my brain automatically puts them in the younger sibling zone 💀 I stopped being friends with someone when he started hanging around with more freshman than adults after we’d been graduated for 2 years ATLEAST and it threw up so many red flags.

[@ewidontlikeyou]

But.....y'all support gross voyeur industries that make a WHOLE genre out of being young/teens/or related family members... y'all again are soooo inconsistent. yuck.

[@jennyrodriguez2310]

As a former Cody Ko girly, him just ignoring this HURTS.

[@admantite]

I feel you. Used to be a fan since the jake paul drama. But not really surprised at his silence though

[@lazylurker2842]

Well him doing it in the first place is what really hurts surely

[@moonshinershonor202]

Betrayal comes from those we know.

[@jennyrodriguez2310]

@@lazylurker2842 definitely, I just want closure. And him ignoring it won't give me closure

[@magicivy]

Literally

[@rowannnnnnnnn]

Glad you’re talking about this too, Kiki. He can’t be allowed to get away with this. Absolutely repulsive excuse for a man.

[@Seeker7257]

It has come to my knowledge that people actually knew about all of this in the past, why is all of this surfacing in the mainstream now?

[@katr3632]

@@Seeker7257 because of D'Angelo Wallis's video. Smaller channels have been talking about this for a long time

[@noone7304]

@@Seeker7257because people chose to not believe Tana because of her past mistakes. Also from what I know Cody tried to hide this and I think did very well for a time being.

[@johnhenry4844]

America is wild, 16 is the age of consent in most states but everyone freaking out about 17

[@Seeker7257]

​@@katr3632 Yes, I saw the video, it was very informative. I wonder what would have happened if he would not have made that video, it is disturbing that this was made somewhat mainstream due to a single KZbinr.

[@Slap_Pappy]

thank you for mentioning JC Caylen, it blows my mind that people have not dug into him more, his relationship with Lia Marie Johnson as well was very creepy back in the day. People need to talk about that more!!!

[@aishats9645]

Wait can you explain the Lia Marie Johnson situation more. That’s how i discovered her and began watching her as well. Don’t tell me she was underaged??..

[@arissa1762]

​@@aishats9645 hard to say, idk much about this relationship i don't think. i knew lia from a show she starred in, and ik she was very vulnerable in recent years due to documented addictions and a toxic relationship. she had a shaky home life. she was on youtube's 'kids react' channel back in the day. i hope nothing happened to her, but i'm gonna look into it now too i suppose.

[@Slap_Pappy]

@@aishats9645 she was 16 and he was 21 or 22 if I remember correctly

[@kelseynichole6298]

Hi, I’m Kelsey the one who spoke out about snapchatting Cody ko at 15. We neeeeeed to keep talking about this, we can’t let this man stay silent in an attempt for this to blow over and then he comes back unscathed. He groomed me, he groomed so many other girls who messaged me but was afraid to go public. He knew what he was doing. Im 26 now and I couldn’t imagine wanting to snap a random 15 year old over a period of months even if it wasn’t sexual. It’s just weird. It hurts cause I was a huge fan and he used that to his gain

[@Kiputytto_minis]

I'm so sorry you went through that. Please know that we believe you and stand with you. I was 16 while my groomer was 28 so this hits close to home.

[@sinestesianestesia9079]

Omg I'm so sorry!! Thx for speaking out! Also... how does this comment not have a bigillion likes??

[@ChessieChess]

@@sinestesianestesia9079 exactly I’m like where are the likes for this comment

[@hadesisbaby]

@flower8301did you watch the entire video…

[@hadesisbaby]

as the first response said, we believe you and stand with you. anyone who doesn’t is sick in the head.

[@DrHenryAuD]

When I was 25, I was doing my clinical fellowship for my doctorate. I had absolutely nothing in common with a 17 year old. His behavior is beyond deplorable.

[@EmilyWatros]

I mean, him and his wife aren't exactly the pinnacle of emotionally mature, or funny, or interesting.

[@metamorphforest4853]

A way to reframe this is that he allegedly slept with an underage fan. Yeah Tana may be famous, but that doesn’t change the insane power dynamic. There would be more noise around this if she wasn’t who she is, which is not right

[@DiMagnolia]

Or if she was an influencer with a more *wholesome* image.

[@cicilg]

I mean it isn't the same at all. She was a fellow creator. They were much much more equal.

[@jyoung6366]

Completely disagree

[@nothanks71]

Tbh if ANYONE knows what Cody ko was like at the time, he definitely COULD sleep with her. Like if you DOUBT Tana in anyway, you aren't being unbiased. His character at the time was vile. Like people need to admit that it's absolutely PLAUSIBLE he could've done it. That being said, I believed Tana instantly. I don't get how people can even DEFEND him. His character at the time was deplorable! In this case, if he was "innocent" he NEEDS to make a statement so his silence is LOUD

[@aesinam]

Did she have as many followers and presence as him? ​@@cicilg

[@organpool]

KZbinrs try not to interact inappropriately with children challenge (IMPOSSIBLE!!)

[@Tellehahsghsbbs]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Tellehahsghsbbs]

Why are they like this?? Leave children alone

[@jaxj968]

@@Tellehahsghsbbsi wonder the same thing, like why is it they’re always grooming minors?

[@jamiecoull7081]

​@@jaxj968 I think it's a power thing. Once they have all that clout and influence they feel they can get away with whatever. Then they start doing the awful things they always wanted to do but never felt powerful enough to get away with before.

[@alpacarie]

Since these major KZbinrs hold power and a title, they take advantage of that and talk to teenager girls. It’s sickening, this is describing Kendrick’s diss track about drake

[@whowouldseekemployment8342]

His wife is being attacked by the internet and hes living out his DJ Dreams in vegas!? What the hell?? his silence truly speaks volumes. So dissapointed in him

[@Trillllian]

hes gotta get paid somehow..

[@realtehen]

@@Trillllian dude he is rich

[@Shirumoon]

@@realtehen And so? They have high running costs. Not all rich people have millions in their bank account but spend most of their income on a monthly basis. I get the anger but can we focus on the things that do count in this scenario?

[@ariaaa_g]

@@Shirumoonthen they should stop living above their means, because that's what majority of those youtubers do

[@hahahahahayden]

@@Shirumoonhe invested in liquid death as a startup i’m sure he’s fine, he just likes to dj

[@astridvvv9662]

Reminds me of Taylor Swift going out of her way to hook herself up with a Kennedy as someone who's very obsessed with the family. Connor Kennedy was a highschool JUNIOR, 17 years old. Taylor was 22 going on 23. She even checked him out of school once. Also, he was in a very very vulnerable place-his mother had taken her life TWO. MONTHS. PRIOR. Taylor PAPPED herself by calling them to the cemetery to take pictures of her and Connor at the side of his mother's grave. imagine doing that crease, evil, demented.

[@N3cr0s]

It’s crazy how many Taylor swift fans dickride her

[@aesinam]

I'm surprised Swifties haven't tried to kill u here

[@thedogstar59]

fr??

[@christinabarnes4564]

The fact that this isn’t more talked about… at this point I think she could murder someone and the swifties would still defend her

[@kham6006]

Wow ? She’s creepy

[@tkjones9316]

I’ve been seeing people saying, 17 is close enough to 18 which drives me crazy, like that’s disgusting that people were saying that.

[@jrad00]

Ikr! Like sorry but it being legal does not change the fact that YOU ARE BASICALLY TALKING TO A CHILD! No 25yo should want anything to do with someone in their teens, even up to 24 tbh. There is so much going on in those years like I, a 25yo, could not fathom meeting a 19yo and thinking oh yeah I’d date them, let alone a 17yo, like wtf??? Being legal doesn’t make it not disgusting

[@mkaverage4773]

Not only was she underage, she was an underage fan, & he held the power in several ways because she was trying to build her career in the same space as him. Yeah 18 is legal but it still would have been weird af.

[@RamenzillaX]

For me it's the knowing she was 17 and going for it anyway...as a 25 year old. HUH?! You graduated college how many years ago, yet you're willingly flirting and SLEEPING with high schoolers? Be gone. Tana obviously is a very controversial, problematic figure on her own... that doesn't excuse the actions of a fully grown adult man when she was a teenager.

[@DashedTheirHeadsOnRocks]

It’s not that bad

[@amicool5589]

​@@DashedTheirHeadsOnRocksIT IS!?

[@DashedTheirHeadsOnRocks]

@@amicool5589 I mean he is a piece of shit but there are no victims so it’s a victimless crime

[@DashedTheirHeadsOnRocks]

@@amicool5589 ok so maybe Cody is a creep but doesn’t Tana still follow him? I’m not mad if she isn’t

[@shiina29]

@@DashedTheirHeadsOnRocksShe didn't say that. She said it doesn't stick out to her as particularly traumatic because she's been through so much worse.

[@angelwings6186]

There is honestly no telling how many girls have been taken advantage of. Someone like this doesn't stop. Tana wasn't the first and she wasn't his last. Imho

[@marcievilches6353]

“I wish I hadn’t said anything” is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard from a victim of SA. That sentence alone should be a wake up call for die hard fans of Cody. I had never heard of him before these allegations coming up. I wasn’t a viewer before and I sure as hell will never watch him now. Shame on Cody, shame on his fans, shame on this society for making ANY SA victim feel like “I wish I hadn’t said anything.”

[@lenapawlek7295]

Its so sad that that's how she feels - it's so frustrating that there are so many people who are still out there victim blaming

[@zizojaezekeom3565]

Same i never knew who this f4ck is if it wasn't for tana

[@ivylynnwinchester9311]

I still can't believe people think Tana's always looked older. She looked like 14 when she was 17. People were probably just focused on how she dressed and that they were attracted to her, not how young she actually looked.

[@mkaverage4773]

Yeah she looks SO young in the clips here. She looks like a 14 year old trying to dress in a way that they think adults dress.

[@ivylynnwinchester9311]

@@mkaverage4773 Exactly. So disturbing to see how Cody was looking at her

[@viklightfoot45]

​@@mkaverage4773good old chortle at your name. Nice one 👍😄

[@maikamikaela3144]

30:36 another note on Brittany Broski: she's represented by the same talent agency as Cody. That's absolutely the reason why she had to word it that way

[@meanjean3023]

“Talent Agency” 🙄🙄

[@maikamikaela3144]

@@meanjean3023 yeah, that's... The word I said.... Influencers are often represented by talent agencies

[@angelac5954]

I love how people like to casually forget that predators know to pick “unbelievable” or traumatized victims who won’t speak out. I’m a licensed therapist and this is almost always the case. It’s ridiculous. Great video 🙏🏼

[@sashie253]

🎯🎯🎯

[@anneimogene1099]

This needs more likes

[@Jeanaaa123]

I have to say, the H3 podcast brought this up right after the live show clip started surfacing, a month before the D’Angelo Wallace video (which he does credit them for) completely denouncing Cody, who they previously had as a guest and respected. So props to them cause they certainly weren’t afraid to distance themselves and brought a lot of light to it. They also brought it up the last time Tana spoke about it but it just never gained traction back then.

[@lilmisslena1386]

H3 definitely had some missteps and I don’t agree with everything they say but I do appreciate they never shy away from talking about this stuff and don’t try to sugar coat it.

[@skedaddlebaker]

Props to Ethan but no one probably heard about it cause no one listens to him anymore lol

[@lilmisslena1386]

@@skedaddlebaker I mean the vid has almost a million views on just that topic. Maybe not to the levels it used to be but still a presence.

[@TheNoxolotl]

​@@skedaddlebakerstill has a following just not the same ones as before

[@sarahschouveller1993]

Another reason I love h3

[@emo__runner]

It's always so funny to me that KZbin is so large that you can say "he's one of the largest, most beloved channels" and I literally never heard of him until this all came out

[@mashakv]

crazy

[@Amber-sc9jp]

Dude has 6M subs. He's objectively huge on the platform.

[@emo__runner]

​@Amber-sc9jp and yet I was oblivious of his existence 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@HZ-fg9sf]

​@Amber-sc9jp He can have a huge platform but still be an unknown by a lot of people because 6M is a mere drop in the bucket compared to how many people online around the world. That's even less than 2% of just the US population lol

[@Leoatotis-il9pq]

Yeah 10yrs ago if you had 1m subs you were basically a superstar now mr.beast has 300m and there are 40 thousand channels that have at least 1m

[@TiaMarie96]

It saddens me how many young girls think that it’s a win to get older guys when in reality it’s disgusting and those guys are grooming them

[@bryna7]

Because that's where they think their value comes from.

[@TiaMarie96]

@@bryna7 I don’t think that’s it honestly. I remember just thinking it was cool to be with older guys for some girls. And for me personally older guys were more mature but not when they’re looking at underage girls they aren’t

[@1800MDGAF]

​@TiaMarie96 I unfortunately got told growing up that I was "mature for my age" so I often forgot I was only 13 or 14 while these men were in their 20s and 30s grooming me. Even statutory rape. It makes me sad that these men are still walking around out there knowing they did what they did to me. It's sad.

[@appalachiabrauchfrau]

I had a 20 year old "boyfriend" that left his age-appropriate girlfriend to pursue me when I was 14 and thought I was hot shit because of it. The day I turned 20 and remembered him, and then it hit me all at once and I had a devastating breakdown. I was a child. I had H cup breasts, that was his excuse when I confronted him over it after I'd recouped myself. Wow, I had precocious puberty, that totally negates it ofc! /s It's the triangulation between women that's socialized into us, always needing to be better than other women, be more unique, be more desired. Put that together with the lack of foresight of a teenager and it's easy to see why they'd think it's cool to have an "older bf."

[@TiaMarie96]

@@appalachiabrauchfrau I’m so sorry that happened to you. It happened to friends of mine and it always felt weird to me but I stayed out of it. Now looking back I should have said something

[@mysticgoat]

i’m pro tana over here but the question of cody being criminalized is not even possible. statute of limitations on statutory in both cali and florida is 3 years, so unfortunately he’s in the clear there, but that’s honestly why it makes me more mad bc he could be honest with no legal repercussions but instead he’s being silent.

[@MadeOfConfusion]

I wonder if she feels like she can mention it now because of those limitations she doesn't have to face people demanding why she won't take the stress of pressing charges against him? I can imagine that would be stressful, and I can totally see people being way over the top against her about any choice she made.

[@zizojaezekeom3565]

The law isn't always right so he is a criminal, the adult age should be higher like 21 for me is the perfect adult age, 21 is a young adult it will not only protect people but especially women who older men especially misogynists are preying on to manipulate and "shape" and it should be in all states

[@esunshinexo]

this is true but for immigration you must maintain GMC (good moral character) and i’m sure something like this could effect his immigration process, like a temporary ban or something

[@steph678]

He protected his best friend from rape charges in college as well. He knew his best friend raped and drugged a girl and probably filmed it. Then used his father's money and power to keep himself out of the lawsuit against the school that covered up her rape.

[@AliMeetsWorld]

I’m kinda shocked tbh, I figured he was just super sad at home like “man I know i was an idiot but I am not like that anymore, omg this must be destroying my wife, omg I’m so sorry” but I guess NOT….

[@SocietalNoob]

I'm not a fan, but I thought he was taking time to make a well thought out response. I already thought low of him but seeing the dj clip made me feel genuinely embarrassed for him. how dumb can he be

[@stefw46]

these people don't care

[@winniethepooht5776]

I thought the same. I figured he must have SOME remorse and he wants a second chance because he isn't that person anymore. Wouldn't make it ok that it happened, it's still statutory grape, but even people like that change. But he is CLEARLY not one of those people.

[@heezypeasy8611]

I've never been a fan of his. I didn't even know he existed until recently. Him not responding to the allegations is wild. The silence is deafening.

[@Msblayree]

Not to play devils advocate, because I don’t agree with any of his actions… But he does have a contractual obligation to show up to DJ… That’s literally his job he could get sued by the hotel if he doesn’t show up… Since these are still allegations and not proven, he has no way out of a contractual obligation he’s probably had for months now,. Would be up to the hotel hosting his DJ set to not invite him so it’s on them as well

[@Iluvrrr]

Watching this before it gets taken down IYKYK

[@HarlowHaleth]

that being true is actually so sad

[@BaddieMaddie.THEbaddest]

I was thinking the same thing 🙄

[@PixelPenguin87212]

I haven't seen anyone's videos on this get taken down?

[@lunatic5162]

Wdym?

[@Ray-zp3zp]

y would it get taken down is cody mass reporting people

[@toltorg]

Anyone who has experienced what Tana has knows she is not lying about this. Anyone with half a brain knows she’s not lying about this. Tired of grown men chasing young girls, it’s about time they are held accountable.

[@ihatemickiegee]

i wasn’t even a fan of her, didn’t even like her until her sobriety, yet i knew immediately she wasn’t lying. did she lie in her storytimes? hell yeah dude. but she would never lie in a way that started a firestorm in someone’s life. she’s started her OWN firestorms on her OWN life plenty of times, she knows how it feels, so she wouldn’t do it to someone she looked up to if they were totally innocent…

[@pettykittyfam]

Not just grown men It's also grown women and all varieties of genders Every gender is capable of this abuse

[@Peak7Concept]

This generation believe it or not it’s happening and its right infront of ur eyes, the lgbtq community is disgustingly guilty of this and its getting worse on them most if not all are females or trans

[@Maialeen]

@pettykittyfam What's your angle here? Not just men, yet absolutely mostly men. Definitely most often men. So many men that it's not an anomaly but a social problem.

[@danaaish4429]

@@toltorg 17 years old is young girl and 18 is fine?

[@societycrumbles]

The worst part of this is that this situation will blow over. In 4 months no one will remember and Cody will continue to thrive. It happened with Shane, Jeffree and James, even Coleen. No one really holds people accountable.

[@justicedymond_]

@@societycrumbles the shane thing was over makeup and if ur referring to his videos from 2012 that was just how youtube was with smosh jenna marbles and more shane doesnt deserve to get canceled nor does cody they have grown up HAVE KIDS NOW and r married. we as people need to learn to mind our business the cody and tana need to learn to work or take legal action with out pull the internet into it tana was 17 he was 25 but trust me if u look into her other videos cody is the least of our worries men like that made tana and still makes tana the girl sells butt hole pics on the internet and bragged about a older man f**kin her with a tooth brush when she was younger

[@bryna7]

Colleen is not thriving. Men definitely get away with everything.

[@societycrumbles]

@@bryna7 I mean, true. She still got way more sh*t than the men who did similar things, but people still watch her.

[@SkyExplosion]

@@bryna7 If men get away with everything then Austin Jones wouldn't be rotting in jail.

[@justicedymond_]

@@bryna7 look at her vlog accounts shes living fine

[@anootnoot7192]

learning that he was a frat boy had made so much of his actions make so much more sense to me

[@steph678]

Yeah he helped his bestfriend drug ,rape and film a girl during those frat years.

[@jamieelizabeth2185]

Proposing was either an attempted distraction or he wanted to trap her real quick so she can’t easily leave him when people start really outing him and it opens her eyes to who he really is

[@Abby-jx1ko]

definitely! Most likely both a distraction and trap!

[@elin_]

Or he just loves her..?

[@manic_girl]

I can’t imagine being Kelsey right now, with a new baby at home on top of all this. I’m so disappointed in him and everyone who knew and looked the other way. Edited to add: a lot of y’all are pointing out Kelsey most likely knew because the allegations have been around for years. If she did I am absolutely disgusted that she would sweep it under the rug. I don’t condone harassing a woman less than a year postpartum, but y’all are right that it is disappointing.

[@catcat9582]

She knows. An actual rapist who drugged a girl and filmed was in her wedding. And she gave Emma chamberlain nicotine as a minor

[@ncswims1]

oh please she knows she married a wannabe DJ a$$hole, don’t feel bad for her and her millions of dollars lol, she probably sucks too

[@ncswims1]

don’t feel bad for her, she chose to marry a wannabe DJ frat boy a$$hole. she married him and chose that

[@notamberp]

Kelsey is definitely probably one of those people who knew and not only looked away, but married him and had a child with him.

[@ncswims1]

@@notamberp YES

[@emelylopez680]

Tana has been very candid about her experiences with men while she was a minor. Mind you she’s also been candid about the dysfunctional home she grew up in and her party like lifestyle. She has been the perfect victim for all of these pedophiles. The way the public was not taking her seriously and victim blaming her until Deangelo made his video has been extremely disappointing. Btw, thank you Kylie for remembering everyone that Tana also mentioned JC Caylyn.

[@smartypants261]

exactly! i wish more people would realize that “messy” “dysfunctional” controversial adultified girls are the prime target for creeps and crimes. they’re vulnerable and in bad situations and they won’t be believed. instead we like to imagine a perfect victim which would actually be one of the WORST people for a sex pest to go after.

[@cosmari245]

@@smartypants261 Yes, tana spoke about how she was doing a lot of hookups when she was in her late teens and plus this was around the time where she made a vid abt getting evicted too i believe... She was in a vulnerable spot and he took advantage of that and she was young

[@emelylopez680]

@@cosmari245 she was also maybe homeless? Oh god!!! The layers to this.

[@cosmari245]

@@emelylopez680 bc she had a father with his own mental health issues and both her parents weren't as present as they shld hav e been she couldn't rlly stay w them,,,,, yea tana's teen/early 20s life was rough

[@emelylopez680]

@@cosmari245 that's so unfortunate, happy that she's more financially stable now and wow, yeah she was the perfect target :(

[@tiffany.Elizabeth.]

I feel so bad for Kelsey. I’ve watched a lot of her content. She’s so funny and seems like a really great person. I hope she’s ok

[@Onomatopoetiskt]

When I was 16 I slept with a guy who was 30, in Sweden the age of consent is 14 or 15 and it doesn’t matter how old the other person is. He came up to me when I was 18 and apologized and I didn’t get why until I was older, people doesn’t even think that it’s disgusting. I hate that it’s so normalized

[@citizenn5023]

14😮 no matter how old the person is??? 😩😬😬😬😳

[@graceellison118]

That clip of Cody and Tana from their collab video was so hard to watch. She’s so young and acts so different, trying to entertain his bits and there’s just that vibe of a young girl trying to make an older guy think she’s cool. Heartbreaking.

[@gisellemendoza1023]

Yea :(

[@elodieelvira7913]

And he is disgusting|y salivating on her

[@roxxyroll4540]

There was actually a creator a week before D'angelo made his video that made like a 30min video about Cody Ko and Tana and I literally was thinking "why is no one talking about this?" And since my man really liked Cody and Noel, I was watching his videos real hard after that. Reading comments and I KEPT TELLING MY MAN, It's so weird there's NO comments about Tana on his video. Then D'angelo dropped his video and Cody stopped dropping videos then. It was CRAZY to watch this from the beginning

[@jaxj968]

yes!!

[@emilyjane9901]

Same here! I watched Adam Mckyntre (my spelling is questionable)

[@zucchinikindaslayed]

fr. I went to the comments and there was no mention

[@roxxyroll4540]

@emilyjane9901 no worries I have dyslexia so that looks right to me 🤷🏽‍♀️🤣

[@kambyr]

Way to promote “my man” I love that guy. I’m totally gonna go follow him right now…..

[@dominique8655]

the thing about trauma is, it’s stored in the body. like the mind can suppress it, but it’ll pop up every now and then. which makes sense why tana has jovially mentioned her situation in tidbits over the years. i’m proud of her for publicly speaking her truth especially knowing her reputation on the internet. but she’s setting such a good example for women and girls everywhere to tell someone, anyone because no matter how insignificant it may seem, trauma like that can chip away at your soul until it’s too much to handle and you crack

[@joybodelay9679]

That is so well said.

[@HandbagDiva]

But you can’t tell somebody else what their trauma is. Tana has said it’s not a traumatic event in her life. I had relations with guys in their 20’s when I was 17 and did not suffer any trauma from it. No one else should be telling someone what their trauma is.

[@kikiTHEalien]

Tana shat on Gaby for speaking about it. Who was supposed to make a big deal out of it then, if the victim was publicly voicing grievance against the only person who was actively trying to alarm the public of the actions of the perpetrator?

[@oddlysatisfied7024]

⁠@@HandbagDivai don’t think that’s what she said, I think she said worse things have happened to her and this may not be that traumatic but it definitely impacted her. I think even the way she tried to downplay it, and now is standing on it… can be signs of trauma.

[@dominique8655]

@@kikiTHEalieni didn’t see where that happened but maybe tana wasn’t ready to speak on it at that time? maybe she was just being an asshole? idk i never said victims are perfect and i hope you don’t expect them to be. i’m not excusing tana if she did that but experiencing trauma and coming to terms with it is a lot like the grieving process. you can feel denial, anger, all of it. it’s up to you how to express those complicated emotions but having those emotions in and of itself is not a bad thing

[@youfoundwaldo77]

Hearing her say that she didnt associate her assault with trauma was so sad because i did that for years. I compared my assault telling myself that worse things have happened to people and so i shouldnt be upset but not processing that has kept me isolated from physical contact for years.

[@strangledrose2143]

When I was 17, I had this situationship with my boss who was 24 at the time. He was in a long term relationship and I blamed myself the entire time for being “the other woman”. It wasn’t until I was 24 that I realized he was SEVEN YEARS my senior…7!!! I’m 37 now and still trying to govern myself grace over the whole situation. I still feel guilty in being the other person, but I know it wasn’t only my fault, he made bad choices as well. If you put it in the perspective that Cody was 8 years older than her and she was a minor, to me that really makes it sink in.

[@bruhyouare6720]

I fucking HATE it when people try to discredit Tana for her problematic past. If those people actually looked into Tana’s recent online presence, they would see she has matured so so so much

[@affnt]

Tana could be wrong about or annoying or problematic all day long & still be a victim. It can & does happen to all kinds of people & no one deserves it. But I agree with you, she’s grown up a lot. I’m glad she & Gabbie have spoken on it. It happened and Cody was absolutely aware she was underage & he was exploiting her. It was statutory rape.

[@Snow-xd4rv]

I believe Tana's situation, but she definitely hasn't fucking matured. Just last year she was telling a wine tour employee that she hoped she would die because she came to the event completely unprofessional, unclassy, and drunk

[@meanjean3023]

Didn’t she just fake marry Jake Paul. None of these people are mature - they sit on couches and talk about the fake drama they start.

[@mkaverage4773]

@@meanjean3023wasn’t that like 5 years ago lol?

[@meanjean3023]

@@mkaverage4773 I don’t know - I’m 40 😂

[@megadeltsmarcy]

10:52 bro if my boyfriend said he wanted to marry me, and then didn't propose for months, AND THEN SAID HE CHANGED HIS MIND, i would be so violently angry and leave him so fast

[@HandbagDiva]

She said she thought he changed his mind not that he said he changed his mind

[@primrosett]

I have zero evidence for it but I suspect he's been cheating on her during those DJ gigs. Its really weird to leave your wife and new baby at home to go party in a different state like that. Plus with her talking about how he'd grown really distant to the point that she didn't think he'd propose ... idk, obviously, it's not a fact, but if anyone comes out and says they've hooked up with him in vagas, I wouldn't be shocked at all.

[@karavani]

Unrelated but I love your pfp 🙏🫶

[@winterain17]

I didn't expect that from him but seeing so many other celebrities being exposed over the years we can say that the worse ones are hiding in plain sight and are beloved by many. We can no longer be completely fan of someone because we don't know them. There has to be CONSEQUENCES.

[@johnhenry4844]

@@winterain17 bruh it would have legal if they hooked up in the next state over, who cares at all

[@winterain17]

​@@johnhenry4844 It's not about being legal. Most teenagers who experienced a relationship with an adult look back at it as adults and realize how much they were taken advantage of. As a 26 yo I would NEVER think of a 21 yo this way, let alone a 17 yo teenager in highschool. These disgusting adults know what they're doing otherwise they would date people within their own age range. Why do they choose teenagers ? Because they're naive and easy to manipule. Teenagers believe they're all grown up, know it all and are "mature for their age" (we have all been there), they want to believe they're different from others and the adult plays on that to make them do what they want. They think they want the intimate relationship but can't fully comprehend what they're getting into and who (the adult creeps) they are doing it with. In so many countries laws don't protect children or teenagers, it doesn't mean it's not morally wrong.

[@winterain17]

@@johnhenry4844 I'm copying my comment because it got d e l e t e d due to some words : It's not about being legal. Most teenagers who experienced a relationship with an adult look back at it as adults and realize how much they were taken advantage of. As a 26 yo I would NEVER think of a 21 yo this way, let alone a 17 yo teenager in highschool. These d i s g u s t i n g adults know what they're doing otherwise they would date people within their own age range. Why do they choose teenagers ? Because they're naive and easy to manipule. Teenagers believe they're all grown up, know it all and are "mature for their age" (we have all been there), they want to believe they're different from others and the adult plays on that to make them do what they want. They think they want the i n t i m a t e relationship but can't fully comprehend what they're getting into and who (the adult c r e e p s) they are doing it with. In so many countries laws don't protect children or teenagers, it doesn't mean it's not morally wrong.

[@romancandleofthewild]

@@johnhenry4844so if a 25 year old teacher sleeps with a 17 year old student, would that be okay just because it’s legal in the next state over?

[@illuminaticonfirmed1389]

morgan freeman.

[@JenX-TV]

That Las Vegas event he DJ’ed was 17+ to enter. If he did it then, he’ll do it again. The man has a NEWBORN at home.

[@notlyra2985]

Also, there’s a clip of Kelsey and Cody hanging out with 16yo Emma Chamberlain and they gave her their vape to try and so that was her first time vaping and they filmed it… Needless to say, they are not a good influence on children.

[@tahliyajayde]

Kelsey was a teacher at this time too

[@MarianelaBoratti]

I dated someone that was 25 when I was 16-17 I felt like the coolest girl, no one said anything. He pressured me to do stuff and since I couldn’t cuz for some reason my own body rejected him he broke up with me. Now that I’m 30 I feel so disgusted, I wrote him few months ago acknowledging what happened and he immediately apologized and panicked asking if I was gonna press charges…. He is now married with a stepdaughter… THEY KNOW what they did was wrong from the beginning.

[@awkwardlyamy3765]

I don't even know who either one of these people are.. the facts are facts you're 25 years old sleeping with a 17-year-old that is absolutely beyond disgusting.. 17 year olds are still children. And it's really sad that this doesn't bother her because she has been through worse..

[@zizojaezekeom3565]

It bothers her but wasn't traumatic that's what she meant and that's so sad omg

[@AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1]

It's just like Danny Masterson's situation, he was loved and protected until the last minute. Some of his peers were even writing letters to the court after the verdict and he's a monster.

[@kat9531]

This might be a awful question but what did he do? I’ve never heard of him

[@hakayonder3396]

@@kat9531 An ex-actor who took advantage of women. Got years in prison.

[@bryna7]

​@@kat9531 He violently raped women.

[@kat9531]

@@hakayonder3396 ohhh gross

[@sarahpotter9825]

I got the biggest ick when he said “there’s an innocence to being 17” and that’s exactly what he preys after. 🤮

[@CTLee420]

It makes me so mad that people didn’t believe Tana simply because “she’s Tana”. It was heartbreaking to hear her talk about how nobody believed her until others spoke up for her. It doesn’t matter about someone’s past, their still a victim and should be supported

[@ScratchMarc.]

Genuine question- how come ppl aren't talking about JC Caylen sleeping with her too? I'm glad we're talking about one of the guys (cody) but I'm honestly confused why the public hasn't bad the same energy for the other dude she named (JC)

[@AliMeetsWorld]

Sadly I think it’s cuz caylen is less “viral”… these KZbinrs know they’ll get 10x the clicks by putting Cody ko in the thumbnail and script rather than Caylen

[@marvahinspace]

She was 18 by then. That's why.

[@notamberp]

because weird creeps like ​@@marvahinspace think being 18 makes it okay just because it’s not a fcking crime.

[@weirdhousewivesclub]

There are some small creators who have but I think Cody has overshadowed that situation.

[@kikiTHEalien]

Because there are no details exactly when and where it happened. Remember, we only know the hook-up between Tana and Cody was a crime, because Gaby pointed the exact date and location of the crime. Based on these details we know Tana was 17y.o. and Cody was 25y.o., which makes it a statutory rape in the state where it happened.

[@jamesallen2851]

His silence speaks volumes.

[@bubas420]

It’s crazy. Because there’s so many ppl that say “it’s Tana, she’s lying” but she’s said it multiple times WITH GABBIE HANNAH AS A WITNESS. And it’s crazy how these ppl say “if men did this, everyone would cancel them” but a man DID do it and everyone is like “but it’s Cody. No he wouldn’t”

[@eeveum]

Tana's conversation on the podcast about the situation was extremely mature and level headed, she explained the nuances of being a victim and not feeling like one very well.

[@GoddessMaicaJ]

I’m new here and you did this topic justice. It’s so powerful for me and many other women seeing women tell their truth. I went through a similar situation in high school with a golden boy and everyone thought I was lying. This is so healing

[@thegrimlooper]

I had a friend throughout my childhood, and he even was my locker neighbor at school and we walked by each other during our graduation. He went on to SA’d a 4 year old soon after we graduated highs school, and it makes me feel so disgusted and gross. The things he said (to me, my friends, anyone) and jokes he made *NO longer* feel like jokes and it’s actually something I try not to think about. I talked to him almost every day for half my life, excluding summers and when he moved for a while.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

That is horrifying! You truly never know a person and that is terrifying. My heart hurts for that 4 yr old. Jfc

[@Moerighan]

Worst part is, that probably wasn't the first time, just the time he was caught. Really changes your perspective of a person.

[@themissydeyo]

As a 17 year old girl in the punk and emo scene dealing with complex PTSD I can tell you that most of your favourite nostalgic bands committed these acts and i can count the number that did so to me on two hands at least. This happens ALL the time and because of rabid fans of these people, most of us will never say a word. Sickening.

[@bryna7]

Look at an enormous band like Rammstein and their disgusting Row Zero policy. Their cult attacked any women coming out with bad experiences with Till Lindemann.

[@KaysonMayhew]

Thank you for bringing up Jc Caylen! I’ve watched multiple videos on this topic and I haven’t seen anyone else mention it. (I haven’t watched every one’s video nor do I have TikTok) but it’s so strange people are passing that by.

[@marvahinspace]

Because Tana was 18 when she started hooking up with JC.

[@Helloitslina13]

Which is still weird because JC would’ve also been 24-25 like Cody

[@marvahinspace]

@@Helloitslina13 when Tana was 18 he was 23/24. He is two years younger than Cody. Weird, yes, but legal.

[@notamberp]

@@marvahinspace…so? is that all you need to be okay with a grown man hooking up with a teenager? doesn’t matter if it’s morally disgusting, as long as it’s legal it’s fine! you sound like a creep tbh

[@badnewsbeca]

​@@marvahinspacehow do you know she was 18

[@juliakoreman4022]

when i was 14 i was in a relationship w a man who was 19/20. he did terrible things to me and i cant tell anyone bc everyone in my surrounding would be on his side. the way you talked about this subject made me feel so valid and heard. i appreciate you

[@nauuuurrrrr]

That's absolutely horrifying, I hope you're doing okay now, or at least getting better

[@juliakoreman4022]

@@nauuuurrrrr thank you that means a lot to me, im doing a lot better

[@cale5035]

You are valid and never let anyone gaslight you to think otherwise

[@nauuuurrrrr]

@@juliakoreman4022 that makes me so happy for you, it's good you're out of that now

[@gilyatone]

yours and deanglo’s videos are so thorough, thank you guys for bringing this all to light. Feels like we all got played by a fuck boy, i’m hurt and disgusted

[@baileyb123bb]

When Tana mentions ranking her Trauma, I FELT that so hard. So many things i consider "bad choices" I made when I was young, when looked at closer it was always people that took advantage of me in some way. It hurts if I think about it too hard.

[@juliasidor4018]

You are not alone. Hugs, girly.

[@sophiamartin1971]

Nothing will happen to Cody. This is very indicative of how our society treats women, especially women who don’t adhere to culture norms.

[@jamesallen2851]

It’s been uncovered for awhile but no one believed Tana.. sad stuff.

[@fallenbee]

The only reason I didn't have a reaction to it when I first heard about it however long ago is because I didn't know there was an age gap between them 😭 Like it didn't click in my head that she was a minor until now when it's getting resurfaced again

[@Kenzirs]

​@@katiedidd7825people are shallot for not believe a bad person and a known liar? Lol idk about that

[@stellasfarmlife2465]

I don’t understand why people have to automatically believe people if it’s about this topic. People do lie about being a victim. It doesn’t seem like Tana is lying in this circumstance but she has lied about other things a lot. I’ve never heard of this guy but Kiki did really good research and I definitely do believe he’s a total creep.

[@fluidchant]

It's also that until recently Tana would say she was "17 or 18" when talking about it.

[@fluidchant]

@@stellasfarmlife2465 well, I don't think anyone feels that everyone has to automatically believe claims of sexual assault. I think that when a claim is made that makes sense people are now much more likely to believe the victim because we have a better understanding of how sexual assault happens. We now understand how common it is, how sneaky it can be, and how proof doesn't come in the form we expected. There isn't going to be a video of them having sex while she holds up her license and a newspaper with the date. Yes, some people lie about being a victim but that number is entirely *negligible* compared to the number of victims who are not believed and supported. A claim of assault never happens in a vacuum, there is always context. We had seen their collab videos where he is checking her out. We have seen Gabbie Hannah talk about warning her friend of someone being underaged. We have seen Tana be timid about sharing the truth by saying things like "I was 17 or 18". The context makes sense, the evidence makes sense. Statistically and morally, if I have no reason to doubt the victim, I prefer to defend the victim instead of a predator.

[@ja_cow_ski]

I just had an epiphany. Drew Gooden and Danny Gonzalez used to collab with Cody years ago and the three of them were even considered “The Holy Trinity” at one point. For years I always wondered why Drew and Danny hadn’t been making content with Cody like they used to. Now that I think about it, I’m pretty sure these allegations first surfaced around the same time. I wonder if they cut ties with him way back. And if this was the reason.

[@nolynnoel1032]

Not only was she 17 so the age plays a factor, but she was a FAN of him! Poor tana, it makes me really sad for her.

[@spoonsr]

Thank you so much kiki, I’m a SA victim. and the way you speak you speak in the last minutes of the video genuinely warms my heart and I can tell you are so so genuine

[@AliMeetsWorld]

Noel is the “hey sorry imma just stay out of it.. good luck bro” kinda guy

[@notamberp]

let’s be honest, he probably has done the same weird shit. birds of a feather 🤷‍♀️

[@flyingsquid42]

@@notamberp I would be surprised. He has been with his wife for 12 years. They met in college.

[@skedaddlebaker]

​@@notamberphonestly if you were a fan you might have noticed that Noel never really hung out with Cody's college friends... I gotta hold out hope that Noel is a decent person lol

[@nalaa9618]

@@notamberp stop trying to put shade on Noel....There are many reasons why Noel has parted from Cody and wasn´t even at his wedding...Now shush

[@Maialeen]

@nalaa9618 Shush? Who are you? Their grandma? You don't know these people. They are not your friends. You cannot vouch for anyone.

[@spacecat7864]

Gabby’s Cody Ko impression is really good lol. Pretty hard to refute that clip.

[@selahisawesome7270]

i haven’t watched any “drama channels” since i was a freshman in high school (15), im now (21) binging all of your vids and feel so caught up with internet bullshit. i love the flat truth that you tell and its explained so well, its easy to keep up with.

[@helenc2987]

How did he ever think he would get a way with such a thing? Especially when you're popular online. 99.9% of the truth always always comes to surface. I had been a Cody fan since Vines & this shocks me to hell. Hope Kelsey & baby will be ok through this whole mess.

[@carlsullivan11]

Kiki is a better investigator than the entire FBI

[@bremcdonald]

No shes not. Why is she only talking about Cody? She's just hopping on the cancellation band wagon for views. If she was a good investigator, this video would include all the other guys who slept with her while she was underage. She mentions JC but theres more.

[@Imraveofficial]

@@bremcdonaldno bc why is no one talking about jc too he should be held accountable as well

[@petruzzi6268]

​@@bremcdonaldWhat other guys has she mentioned??

[@photofunability]

I don’t understand how anybody can defend mid 20s guys hanging around 17 yr old girls like it’s seriously so effing weird. When I was only 20 yrs old some guys wouldn’t even pay attention to me or immediately be like “no” bc I was too young and they were 23!! Like I couldn’t go to a bar or even legally drink and hell now in California I couldn’t even buy a cigarette! I couldn’t be in their world which in my opinion is what makes the relationship become inappropriate or weird or even illegal. You cannot relate to a teenager when you’re 25 and sickos like Cody enjoy that. And to any guy his age excusing that- are you saying that if you were 25 you’d totally hookup with 17 yr olds? If so I’m calling the police

[@stuffystuffsityas6302]

I think point blank being in high school/being in the very beginning of the workforce (most female drop outs I know and knew work full/part time in retail/hospitality) vs a dude who has finished his degree and has years in a professional workplace? GROSS. My little sister is 17 next year and she’s annoying as hell (love her to bits). It’s predatory point blank.

[@lauraeeeee]

I’m trying to follow what you’re saying but I’m obsessed with your hair. It is your perfect colour!!!! Gorgeous!!!!

[@christophermathews423]

I agree. She is absolutely gorgeous ♥️💕🕊️

[@lunatic5162]

Not only that, but makeup and eyes oof

[@notamberp]

I know this is meant to be an innocent compliment, but she’s talking about something very serious, so to just be like “I’m trying to listen but your hair!!!” is just a bit disrespectful imo.

[@smart_sass]

⁠@@notamberpnot everything needs to be that deep ..

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

She's very pretty.

[@anniebee2112]

Hey Kiki. A similar thing happened to me, and watching this video and hearing you condemn Cody’s actions so strongly was really reassuring. Thank you

[@kayleighmay2557]

This is a brilliant video on the subject! Every thing is so thorough, i only knew cody when this started coming out so I didn't know everyone's back story It's much clearer now

[@DevHazy]

Thank you for bringing up coercion!!! I was 18 and a 46 year old man….. I barely can even say it

[@kellyaxelrad]

I’m so sorry and hope you’re doing alright ♥️

[@johnhenry4844]

Bruh you were an adult take responsibility, Jesus Christ 😂, you are not a victim

[@emmygilbert1813]

same shit happened to me there’s such a fuckin power imbalance he had a 12 year old son 😭

[@Lifeishard237]

Yup this almost happened to me at 17 and it was my creepy ass BOSS 🤢 he never had a chance but that didn’t stop him from being super disgusting

[@Lowey666]

​@@johnhenry4844the Fact that just a 12 month difference and suddenly "you are not a victim lol" uhhh look at the age gap?! You don't even know the whole situation ur just being an asshxle for nothing

[@jesscasto]

He’s probably doing whatever his legal team has advised. Tana deserved better

[@stella-pl3hz]

Yeah but I also think that Cody alone has a HUGE responsibility for this, for example when he was confronted by gabbie hanna that he was dating a underage girl he still hooked up with her afterwards, like he could’ve used his brain and change his mind knowing what he’s doing is illegal. and he especially also has big responsibility because he was 25!!! like not “young twenties” an actual ADULT. so I wouldn’t think it’s good to blame it all on his legal team even if they definitely have a big impact on the situation with censoring all information and stuff.

[@jesscasto]

@@stella-pl3hzmakes me feel better knowing he’s got a little weenie

[@jesscasto]

@@stella-pl3hzalso he’s 100% solely to blame. Sorry for the confusion ❤

[@ashleighmyers5548]

firstly wanna say, despite being a cody fan for years and im DISGUSTED about this. first heard it on h3. but i was thinking the same- bc this could actually be a huge legal thing, both with tana and his citizenship stuff, i feel like he’s just following his legal team and staying quiet. and any statement could technically be an admission of guilt. and with his dj gigs, he’s probably contractually obligated to go thru or he’ll get sued for that as well. very messy and he probbaly being told to be quiet. BUT still doesn’t give him a pass with all of this ):

[@ashleighmyers5548]

this was just a thought in regards to the “why won’t he speak out narrative”. definitely not playing devils advocate here bc he truly is to blame for this whole mess

[@CellotasticallyYours]

Am I the only one hearing a persistent high pitched "eeee" noise through the video? It's not tinnitus or my headphones, I literally only hear it when the video is going...

[@user-tx2gi7ls7h]

Same

[@vapor4]

I hear it too

[@nattynatty49]

im stopping the video cuz of it, my ears can't 😢

[@ElishaMais]

Me too!!

[@CellotasticallyYours]

Seems like the noise stops briefly at 20:57 but it starts again right after :/

[@joartuk]

I was 16, my groomer was 24. The first time, he invited me to watch movies, and he wanted to watch Lolita. Wonder why...mhm. He hid me for months from his friends and family until he got bored of me. Many men are just as sick i guess

[@xxzcfdxc]

I remember one time watching Cody and Noel and they started advising on how women should wax down there because shaving makes it a cactus. Total f boi frat boi vibes. Then the accusations came up and I stopped watching them.

[@heezypeasy8611]

Something I read that makes it even worse is that Tanas bday is June 24th. Playlist Live, where this happened, was in 2015. She was BARELY 17. She was closer to 16 than she was to 18. So sick. I'm glad all of this is coming out, tho it should have happened sooner. The Zach Justice and Indiana situation is also so disgusting.

[@jadeterrain4771]

Rachel Oates and Michelle McDaniels said they had issues uploading their Cody Ko videos because it kept getting flagged. I wonder if KiKi had any issues

[@HZ-fg9sf]

"People can be promiscuous but can also be a victim." This 100%. Even if she chose to dress "sexy" at 17, even if she might've wanted it, he should have said no. Change the ages of those circumstances and where do you draw the line? What if a 15 year old dressed sexy and wanted it, does that mean it's okay? What about 13? It's a slippery slope. While I personally don't have the best impression of Tana, on this I believe her and believe what Cody Ko did is wrong. He has a pattern. And now Tana is older, she has realized how predatory his behavior was and is. A lot of times when we are younger and our brains aren't fully formed, we don't see it the same way but once we mature, we realize a lot of things.

[@JenniferW-p5o]

My question is... who would actually say yes and go on to marry someone that has an allegation of SR ??? This whole thing is disgusting.

[@bluegalaxy9243]

I absolutely despise that we live in a world where the primary lesson being taught is "don't get assaulted/violated/harassed, etc". When in reality, the lesson we SHOULD be teaching is "don't assault/violate/harass, etc"! I'm completely on board with encouraging everyone to be aware of their surroundings/safety, but NOTHING EVER gives someone license to touch you or treat you in a way that is unwelcome.

[@briannahall6828]

Never saw why everyone was so obsessed with him even during the Vine days… like yes king give us nothing? 💀

[@bananayummyable]

Boring, white frat dude

[@Debbyjobin]

As a Canadian, we do not claim him. He can go live somewhere else if his visa gets revoked.

[@LittleSpoonLonzo]

Drake too …

[@joselliott6]

I totally get what she means by the reaction is more traumatizing. As a victim myself that happened to me when I was 7!!! My family (not my parents) knew what was going on, kept it from my parents and DIDNT DO ANYTHING. And that was more hurtful and traumatizing than the act itself.

[@IggyTheBalrog]

The way that trauma works is wild. Like I had formative and abusive experiences in my teens and as a young woman and I was a lot like Tana for years - I wasn't fazed for the longest time because I'd been through worse and I didn't see myself as a victim... And then, BOOM, my thirties hit and suddenly my mental health exploded and everything felt so visceral and painful. Trauma like that is a slow burn, for sure.

[@selmacans]

The part about not believing victims when the assaulter is beloved stung so bad, one of my best friends assaulted my friend and so many people I know are still friends with him because he's a beloved friend. It disgusts me and it's so incredibly disheartening to not be believed.

[@ms.borzynski2195]

You’re the only person I’ve heard acknowledge JC Caylen in this too! Maybe because he doesn’t have the same nice guy persona that Cody does so it’s not as shocking but it really is glossed over

[@kat0726]

I loved Cody Ko, but as a Survivor myself of SA, I can’t even look at him without feeling sick and I feel like there aren’t any good genuine people in this world anymore 😔 My heart hurts for Kelsey & their precious baby boy who can’t even look up to his father as he’s not a good man.

[@ktv1993]

Why do you feel bad for Kelsey? She was complicit in this 100%. She knew about the Tana situation for at least 3 years now

[@skinkwrap]

I wish you hadn't cut out "with the exception of the H3 podcast" before "I haven't seen a single channel over 1m subscribers do so much as acknowledge that this situation exists" from the original video and saying no one talked about this before D'Angelo. He even mentions H3 and the Rolling Stone at the beginning of the video too... They covered this in early June, over a month before anyone else really big spoke on it and have been so supportive of Tana

[@ScratchMarc.]

The podcast Do We Know Them covered it 5 months ago too. It seems like this was floating around the ethers until more and more ppl started talking about it. Just took a while to pick up steam, maybe?

[@skedaddlebaker]

Cody's a millionaire and pays people to suppress the story

[@steimerr]

THANK YOU for bringing up the JC part, I’ve been wondering why no one has

[@donnareynolds5536]

I’ve never heard of Cody Co lol. I just found you here on KZbin. Been doing a little binge watching and so far my favorite is the TikTok drama over the dress for pregnant women.