Is UHD770 iGPU enough for video editing? | Intel 12900k iGPU Performance in Premiere Pro

[@markwuyts3125]

Wow, great video. This answers many of my questions, thank you very much. Now I now that I can easily start with an I7-12700. Let me ask one more big question, how far should I go with an external GPU to have a good improvement on the UHD770, especially when using color grading?

[@nodudelikeme]

go for a 4060 ish laptop with na i9 if u need cpu dependent tasks aint that expeansive and portable and switchable according to tasks

[@Junkyard_Jake]

Great video as always! I’m curious what monitors you’d recommend. Seems like monitors for creators aren’t mentioned very much on KZbin anymore. I’d love a video on how to find monitors and what to look for based on color correctness and things like that. Keep up the good work!

[@TrggrWarning]

Any luck? Similar situation prob widescreen 4K

[@MarcSchreiberRealtor]

Excellent Video! Thanks! I am glad you were able to make it. Answers a lot of questions. 🙂🙂

[@MoreBear]

Could you please make this video regarding Davinci Resolve? I really don't want to buy a GPU now (at these prices) but I would spend more now to upgrade my CPU if I knew it wasn't a waste of money. Thank you very much!

[@panomsuk397]

Thanks for video, what I have try to find this info and your channel is the first one that found.

[@sstevkov]

Nice explanation. Can you do performance test for video editing iGPU comparison between the UHD770-730 in the desktop processors and the Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics iGPU that is in the 12th gen Intel laptop processors? Since many people are doing editing on the road so we can see if the 12th gen mobile processors and iGPUs are any good for that. Thanks!

[@AngeloNguyen]

Tell everyone to put away the "pugetbench" premiere pro scores. This is the new gold standard. This is as revolutionary as PCper discovering "frame times" and 1% lows, a few years ago. It's a totally new niche of CPU benchmark. I have so many benchmark questions... ripe for new videos for sure. So many codecs, D-gpu and I-gpu combinations to test timeline/scrubbing/export speeds. I look forward to a new standardized benchmark to help us figure out which platform/gpu is best for our codec needs! Revolutionary work. This is beyond great, this will tell us what great is for new cpus and gpus.

[@carloalfafara71]

This video really helps me with all my questions in life regarding editing🙏🏻🤣.

[@dwaynecostales3663]

this is a genius video, it helps alot on deciding if you are to invest with a better cpu with a budget

[@stuartmccoll4749]

Excellent ! Thank you for that.

[@rationalwatcher7739]

Hi, I appreciate your decoding testing with Adobe & QuickSync. I have questions about all the CPUs with iGPU that you have kindly shown & tested for us. If I could be so bold, can I suggest/request that when you test the next iGPU from Ryzen 7000 series, AMD Ryzen G-Class CPUs, Newer Intel iGPUs, or even the dedicated Nvidia, AMD, & Intel Arc GPUs decoding abilities... can you set up some sequences that test the decoding abilities, but also demonstrate how well the CUDA or OpenCL hardware accelerated playback works? Especially these iGPU only test set ups, I'd like to see some realistic simple sequence, CUDA or OpenCL hardware acceleration put through the paces, to see if they'd be a viable solution if I can't get a proper GPU for adobe yer. Can it run basic graphics, text with motion, alpha channel logos, scaled & graded clips. I know it's asking a lot, but I am super interested in the stuff you demonstrate, and get excited when everything works beautify. Thanks for your work. Subscribed .

[@roman1550]

Great video !! Thanks a lot, I enjoy very much your inputs on new technologies and love how you bring video creators to the PC market. This video made me laugh so hard at some point (10:50). Your word play "capi capi capi" means in Czech language very bad word. You even hit the right word play that we use in Czechia. Thanks again and keep up this awesome work!

[@davidpeterson6147]

@TECH NOTICE, I am not sure if you did this video from my comments in your last video on this build but you can significantly reduce dropped frames if you have enough ram for a ramdrive. I have 64GB DDR4 and load my source files onto the ramdrive (46gb) to edit videos. The speed of a ddr4 ramdrive is typically 30GB read/write versus the fastest m.2 pcie gen 4 drive speed of 7GB read/write. DDR5 is what makes the 12th gen Intel so amazing but the massive capacities (256gb sticks are coming) running at 10000 mega transfers are still a couple years away. Then ramdrives will be the main device to edit videos from. My local Microcenter has had DDR5 in stock as of 2 days ago (OOS now) but $500 is way too much for 32GB of 5600 mega transfers kit of ram.

[@dephinitions7454]

It makes more sense to just buy the basic crucial sticks at this point. it's why micro center has started to hang on to stock of other kits while the crucial always moves.

[@loyaltabk]

what is a ram drive?

[@davidpeterson6147]

@@loyaltabk a drive mounting strictly in the system RAM.

[@saeedsj2551]

Great video , i have a question though i want to build a pc for video editing for KZbin and since I'm on a tight budget i have two options 1: ryzen 7 5700g with igpu which is vega 8 or option 2: core i5 11400 and 1050ti . I would love your opinion and further suggestions, thanks in advance

[@jaavedfilms8172]

wait so i can build this pc without buying a nvidia graphics card. I am planning to build the same exact PC you built except graphics cards are sold out every where so can i just build it without having a graphics card. Man learned so much from your channel.

[@theTechNotice]

Yeah, and then add it later 😉

[@jaavedfilms8172]

@@theTechNotice you are the best bro. Hope you get a million subscribers soon. Thanks to you I will build my first PC within a month just waiting on the parts and ill add the graphics card whenever it becomes available.

[@subratamoulick665]

Please make a video On i5 12600k video editing performance without gpu

[@god2143]

You should also try rendering videos.... My i5 10400 can edit 4k videos but when rendering it takes 5 hours for a 30 mins video.

[@adityadivine9750]

I was wondering this for so long Thanku for making this video. Should I expect similar results for 12700k?

[@theTechNotice]

Yes!

[@jashlo_]

And what about 12600k

[@adityadivine9750]

@@jashlo_ they'll have same igpu

[@AzogDefilerFromMordor]

Nice. You definitelly should do video with 13th gen and maybe on lower tier. Like i5 or i7. On Davinci resolve. And exporting times as well. For videos from action camera max 4k Pleeeease :)

[@CywlexeemTacac]

Thanks for being the 1st one I'm getting this information from. But is UHD770 better than some budget RX570 for this, or might one cheapen out on F CPU instead?

[@k.o.t.o.n.]

or t060 6gb about same price used where i am 190 dollars

[@realgowthamkumar]

Have you ever heard of this little software called always on top? Use it. That way task manager will always stay on top. You can make any program stay on top by ctrl + space with that software.

[@jc.1191]

This bodes very well for the upcoming Intel arc GPUs.

[@steveseattle6791]

Very interesting! Putting together a new build for my office and looking to try the new i5 12600k without a graphics card to start. Video conferencing, big Excel tasks and like 100 Chrome tabs is my use case. Interested to see if the CPU can pull it off. Luckily, easy fix to throw a 3060 in if the IGPU isn't up to it

[@Vanitasek]

Hey! and how is it going? I am interested in such a build too!

[@steveseattle6791]

@@Vanitasek Build is up and running! So far working great with no graphics card. Dozens of zoom/google/webex meetings with no issues. Integrated graphics usually run at about 50% when on a web conference with video on

[@Vanitasek]

@@steveseattle6791 Thanks for answer!! Have you tried any video editing and rendering?

[@steveseattle6791]

@@Vanitasek No, I haven't really done much of that in years. If there is a relevant benchmark, happy to run and post the result though.

[@piiba]

And now the big question: Do Intel ARC have the same performance? There are a lot of videomaker out there with cpu without igpu, but still with a very capable system overall. Putting a secondary GPU into the system and having the accelerated scrubbing performance would be a dream, without changing the whole system just to buy a brand new intel cpu. In theory, just the A380 should be better than an iGPU. But no one have tested this so far.

[@yogaraj1794]

in 4K editing -while I tested the RTX 3060 indeed offers improved performance and faster rendering then UHD 770, the ultimate goal is the final output. If both of the end results remains consistent, then the choice of hardware becomes less critical. Remember, it’s not just about the journey; it’s about reaching the destination with the desired outcome

[@kim2796]

good video. You tried with davinci resolved ? I d like to see that

[@dongwarrenmusic]

This conclude that it's all about the cpu. Invest mainly in proper order psu, cpu with igpu, ram, storage, motherboard, ddcated gpu later.

[@jaavedfilms8172]

Can you make a video about NAS storage and storage options for creators. Like for a lot of TB storage 40tb or more and to get SSD speeds and how to configure Nas please

[@theTechNotice]

Check out these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6akgatrrpyVpMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4qccp-LgbqVbqc

[@ojtothemax]

Are you overclocking your RAM with xmp or keep it on stock, for better stability?

[@squatch545]

Thanks for doing this video. I had the same question about whether the Intel iGPU would be good enough for video editing. The next question is: would video editing in 1080p be good even with heavy colour grading?

[@theTechNotice]

That's a good question and TBH I doubt it's very good since as you can see in this video the actual GPU power of the UHD770 Is not very good, but the encoders/decoders are very good. So I wouldn't put my bets on a heavy colour grading.... but it's definitely better at 1080p than what you saw in this vid.

[@dfgoijoi]

so many useful informations, thanks

[@thev3565]

👍This was a very interesting experiment. Thanks; I subscribe. Have you ever attempted an AE comparison like this?

[@L0rDLuCk]

Hey, nice video again :) how about Davinci Resolve Studio? is the performance with only the intel iGPU compareable to Adobe? Thanks a lot!

[@theTechNotice]

Resolve is a lot worse since it relys on the GPU much more than Premiere, that's with all the effects and stuff, if you do simple editing without any grades and effects it's even better coz more codecs have hardware acceleration support! :)

[@aravindraja8034]

@@theTechNotice vega 11 vs uhd 770 adobe photoshop

[@ojtothemax]

Thanks a lot for the great Video! Overall I am glad to have found your Channel! I have been wondering if I can build a PC without graphiccards with the 12900K, for Photoshop and maybe get a Graphiccard later on. 👍🏽

[@PendelSteven]

See, that's the great thing about PC's nowadays. You can buy a graphics card if you need it. Chances are that if you aren't a PC-gamer you don't.

[@philipgilligan_art]

Followed your link….. gotcha thankyou Sir

[@iorramgx2]

For tearing only enable the VSync on Gpu Control Panel.

[@angelmiguelfdez]

Great vídeo i would like to see this processor and the 12600 in a Linux distro like manjaro or garuda and shotcut software.

[@cybernd6426]

The best iGPU is the Ryzen 7 5700G. So it would be interessting if you test with te 5700G

[@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh]

The problem with AMD gpus is the fact that the HW encoder & decoder is dogshit, take a look at the decoding/encoding chart published by Pugetsystems a few months ago. Stay away from ANY Radeon gpu (including iGPUs) if you want a good experience video editing (and good performance too). Edit: He also made content regarding Radeon iGPUs for editing a few months ago, there are like 4 videos on that subject.

[@aryaguehrs]

bruh pls stay away from Amd iGPU if you planning using the pc for video editing

[@cybernd6426]

@@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh oh good to know. (I am more in to gaming so didnt know tat)

[@theTechNotice]

Yeah if you're a creator rx6900xt is as good as rtx 3070 🙈

[@cybernd6426]

​@@theTechNotice not gonna lie. That's kinda impressive

[@ojtothemax]

I saw your 3050 rtx review, would it make any difference to you test with only IGPU?

[@ArexLi]

It's not meaningless to study 8K as it should be accelerated by UHD770, but Premiere should require 128GB for 8K projects. After all, UHD770 may be better than even RTX3090 in case you edit HEVC 4:2:2 footages directly. Well, at least during editing and in fast projects without using GPU effects.

[@rationalwatcher7739]

".. fast projects without using GPU effects." I'd like to see how usable the OpenCL muscles are on the IGPUs. Would they handle most BASIC transformative effects that I'd be accustomed to with a dedicated modern GPU?, the real-time playback & previews without stopping to render. How much can it be pushed with effects?

[@shinjimirou928]

Hi, been watching your videos recently to get insights on pc parts to help me decide on creator content related matters aside from gaming. I have a very detailed and specific question. for context I'm a college student in an animation course(Bachelor of Science in Animation). I definitely need to upgrade my work station from my horrible i3 6006u laptop with an intel HD 520 igpu. So yes I am restricted up to 1080p video editing and below and 2D animation at most. My course will eventually move to Blender rendering starting with rendering box figures for my 1st Term around 2nd year starting September 2022. So I was considering 2 plans because I want to spend most of money on a good midrange and latest gpu when I am building my first desktop while saving up a total of $1800 at least or more. My 1st plan was to just settle with an i5 12600k and rtx 30 series when the price goes down and build it from there months later before my course moves to blender or else my laptop would cry. My 2nd plan was to instead spend more for the cpu and get an i7 12700k and go without a gpu then hold out and save until the rtx 40 series comes out. I was hoping to buy around an rtx 4060 series later on. So it would all hold out on the 12th gen UHD 770 So the question is, can a 12th gen alder lake UHD 770 hold out until an rtx 4060/4070 series release? It is dated around 4th Quarter of this year thank you for reading.

[@Z-add]

We need a 2 year update on this igpu video editing topic

[@FireFistMario]

I'm curious on an updated video using 13900k or 14900k.

[@robertsangelo]

Great video,

[@svamptrask913]

Tack!

[@well-well-well-whathavewehere]

In the process of building 12600k based machine right now and trying to determine if my old Radeon RX 470 4GB is worth installing with this. I do mostly Lightroom and Photoshop with occasional 4k video editing. Would the RX 470 be an improvement over the iGPU?

[@theTechNotice]

You can use both at the same time! ;)

[@well-well-well-whathavewehere]

@@theTechNotice Thanks for taking the time to reply!

[@suhelsilotri8721]

Hi, Great Videos you are making and they are really very informative. Requesting you to help me, as I want to build a new 12th gen Intel CPU PC. Mostly my usage is Autocad, Lightroom, photoshop and SketchUP. please suggest a system for me. warm regards. Suhel

[@duckilythelovely3040]

Should have overclockes the igpu. In the 12700k + it overclocks with absolute ease. Another 500mhz or so believe it or not, and +0.12 volts. Games get an extra 10-30fps depending on the title. You missed the ball bot exploring that, it’s a big deal. Doesn’t increase heat.

[@theTechNotice]

Since I'm focusing on creators on this channel, OCing is not really a thing since Stability overrules that. :)

[@waeladel]

This video helped me to diciede to only use 12900k iGPU witout a graphic card for video editing, now i am about to shoose a monitor, will 4K monitor slow the preformence? and what is the beneifest of having a 4K monitor when using Adobe premiere or After Effects, will it fit more panles and timeline will be wider?

[@Filmmaker809]

Will you do a follow-up video with benchmarks with a dedicated GPU please?

[@theTechNotice]

Yes and already done and well, have a look at my 12900k review and with ddr4 performance ;)

[@Mangust2]

Hmmm. it started for me. But it showed broken colors. i7-11800H. Switch playback to half or quarter proxy. And it will play fast.

[@crookedfilms4190]

Very curious to know how the igpu on 12700k works on da vinci resolve as I have heard it uses more gpu. My current budget doesn't allow me to buy a gpu having more than 4 gb vram.

[@jithendra.k.sfirst_yr_b.sc9574]

So, is it the same case for i5 13500? Coz the UHD 770 in 13500 has the same frequency of iGPU, the only difference is the processor, so does it make a big difference..?

[@adityadivine9750]

I don't have any fancy camera. I'll just use my smartphone camera at 4k 60fps. Will this be smooth on igpu for 7-8 months?

[@engahmednofal]

thanks

[@terraincognitagaming]

I cant get Premiere to even launch without a dgpu, Ive tried so many different versions going back to 2021. It used to work weeks ago, but now I just get the splash image and then it wont go any further and it disappears after a little bit.

[@svamptrask913]

You are mostly showing what the iGPU can't do. What can it do? 🙂🙃 4k 24/30 fps 4.2.0 8-bit h.264 + color grade/effects/transitions? Export speed h.264 project to h.264 file? I got a dedicated GPU Geforce 1660 Ti. I can't playback 100% 60 fps with color grading. Your test is to hard. Test 50 % playback. And I don´t think people spending 3500$ on a computer will not get a dedicated GPU. The test could be the following: max 1300$ computer with gpu VS max 1300$ computer without gpu. If someone want to get a low end computer for video editing, should they spend the money on fast cpu, memory and ssd or add a gpu? Thank you for your videos. 👍

[@pranitbhoyar2876]

Hi Can I only use Intel 12700k iGpu for 1080p 50fps editing in premier pro that's only requirment I have. my camera is sony a7 Mark 4. colour grading will not be very hight but I will shoot in s-log3 10bit raw. and very normal gaming and photo editing stuff and also I have ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 let me know I can use it as well. Thank you man! you make clear and simple videos on computers.

[@Yenillen1097]

Hey Do you think this will work for 4k video editing and good playback?? Here are the specs: Mini Abyss GameMax with Rainbow LED lighting ,with 3 ARGB Fan Intel Core i5 11400 1151 11th Gen (6 Cores) @ 2.6 Ghz 32 GB Gaming RGB Ram DDR4 Motherboard: MSI H510M-PRO 256 GB NVME for OS (35 Times Faster Than Traditional Hard Disk or 7 Times Faster than SSD!) 1 TB Hard Disk Graphics card Radeon RX6600 8GB Gamemax Fully Modular Power supply 550 Watt Gold 80+ Iceberg 240 Rainbow All in One Liquid Cooler with 2 ARGB Fan WIFI RGB 2.0 Speakers

[@UltraVoidPlaysRoblox]

wifi and the rgb 2.0 speakers will do the best job LOL

[@RobloxianX]

The new AMD 780 Desktop iGPUS will finally beat the UHD 770 as the fastest iGPUS. They will be 4x faster and I am hoping to use this in my new mini itx build

[@carloalfafara71]

Is it normal to reach 100degrees temp in cpu when rendering 4k video?i am using premiere pro 2022 and Actually I have i9 12900k with 32gb of ram ddr5 with no dedicated gpu same on this video. Looking forward for a great response

[@sebasosorio9084]

Good video Question about Monitors: Could it be possible to output to 1440p with out a dedicated graphics card? What to 1440p at 60mhz + What do you think?

[@loneforest6541]

The GPU Price now is very high. For a beginner who want to build a video editing PC I guess this IGPU is enough. Invest in cpu and buy a gpu later.

[@geraldsalas3213]

If im only using UHD 770 onboard graphics without GPU and edit in da vinci only in 1080 or 1440 with simple editing, effects, masking, simple color grading, will it make its job done? my footage will just come from my phone and screen records from games

[@biskup26]

thx

[@madsfrederiktoft5808]

I have an i7 12700k and reused my 64GB 3000 mhz DDR4 memory. But when I tried to do some video via the 770 igpu the CPU and video slowed down. Memory not fast enough? Or one of the modules bad?

[@theTechNotice]

If you do some colour grading then iGPU not powerful enough to do that. Simple cut and slice, iGPU is fine.

[@jurisveratti4494]

Hello, I thought to buy a PC like yours . How did you solve the problem ? Did you buy a dedicated GPU ?

[@madsfrederiktoft5808]

@@jurisveratti4494 upgraded to 3600 mhz ddr4 and installed my old 2070. Works fine.

[@Noobb_gamerr]

So I need a graphics card for video editing or not? Help

[@johncalebrobert3739]

Leave 4k 6k 26k.... Is 1080 possible?

[@ksr2070]

👍

[@okanaganpeterjames]

Will the i9 11900kf without integrated graphics run premier pro? Will it default to the nvidia rtx 3080?

[@theTechNotice]

It will default to rtx 3080, but PLEASE if you haven't bought the CPU yet, get the NON F version (11900k), coz it will utilize the iGPU!!! :)

[@howardmcmillian5764]

2:30 - 2:46 I think you forgot to edit that out lol XD

[@bishwajit8]

Try it with multiple layers

[@ryosaeba3942]

Please do the same with a 12700k and ddr4!

[@theTechNotice]

You can expect it to be very VERY similar! Since I've tried the 12600k and it was very very close! I'd say 90+% there :)

[@gorkha.photography]

can we get the same vid with 12700k and DDR4

[@theTechNotice]

Good idea! Just seeing if I can get my hands on the 12700k ;)

[@adityadivine9750]

How much difference is there in export times of igpu vs 3090

[@theTechNotice]

Depends on a project, not everything can be accelerated on GPU, difference could be massive and not massive.... just depends what codecs, what effects, what motion graphics etc...

[@adityadivine9750]

@@theTechNotice ook thanks

[@7candide7]

@@theTechNotice And what about H264 and H265 (without any particular effects)? Is this just doable?

[@YowieWowie_Fireflies]

Hi man, Thanks for the video, that was great. I having Sony A1 and I'm planning to buy a perfect desktop for editing 4k & 8k footages. I'm using davinci resolve currently. Should I go with Ryzen 5950X or Intel I9 - 12900k ? RTX 3080 or 3080 Ti ? Need your suggestion on this, Please help me to choose the right one.

[@ties9123]

Rtx a5000 and 12900k.

[@choppergirl]

I just don't think Windows 7 is going to know what to do with this unbalanced weird mix of Performance and Efficient cores on the whole new Intel processors. For obvious reasons, you never want to use Windows 10 or 11 as your desktop OS.

[@ahmadtoyyib7883]

Do you have 12700k test?

[@theTechNotice]

I haven't got hands on the 12700k yet, working on the 12700 review.

[@ahmadtoyyib7883]

@@theTechNotice cant wait for the test. 12700 is more affordable tho. Can it run on b660 motherboard with full potential? Also can u compare the igpu with the 12900k

[@aravindraja8034]

vega 11 vs uhd 770 adobe photoshop

[@johhny.d.]

So needed, but at the same time so not relevant niche for this channel. I would be glad to see this comparison in all cases related to 2D work like CAD, Graphic Design, Photo Editing.

[@leech6579]

在加上a770 天下无敌 教火技术

[@hiteshjena8066]

Power supply for 12900k Without any gpu ??

[@theTechNotice]

Probably 650w is abough if no upgrade plans ;)

[@hiteshjena8066]

@@theTechNotice Thx a Lot !

[@CaptainScorpio24]

@@hiteshjena8066 get min 850 gold cm . thank me later

[@hiteshjena8066]

@@CaptainScorpio24 Ok !

[@gordonyz4]

judging from 4k120, 8k30 on A1 is no bueno

[@shubhdeepkhanna]

Underwhelming performance in my opinion 😢

[@abdullamubarak2067]

2mins ago?

[@sbk_nef]

This video is NOT AT ALL realistic. Why on earth would someone with an i9 12900k and DDR5 setup NOT have a discrete graphics card!? Makes no sense! You should have tested out the iGPU UHD770 performance on lower end processors like the i512600K. That makes sense. This doesnt. Before people argue that yeah, it's the same iGPU in the entire line-up, Naah bro! Despite the iGPU being the same, the frequencies are different. Also, a lot of other parts are like top of the line. DDR5 RAM and Gen4 ssd makes a world of difference.

[@Dreamkiller7756]

3d work No gpu

[@ksr2070]

Bro this is not the best igpu in the world 😂

[@theTechNotice]

Enlighten me ;)

[@lovekush9103]

Premiere Pro / Photoshop dont use Graphics Cards

[@theTechNotice]

PS not so much but PP absolutely it does!

[@lovekush9103]

@@theTechNotice Test Sony Vega 18 /19 with IGPU

[@morgonaut]

it's absoltely useless to do all your tests in Adobe crap which is know to be unoptimized. Waste of your and mine time

[@theTechNotice]

I agree Adobe has it's issues, but regardless it's the most popular video editing program...

[@KillerTacos54]

Great video