It's NOT Mecca! - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay

It's NOT Mecca! - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 54

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The Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) would have you believe that Mecca is the source of Islamic traditions and the birthplace of the Qur’an, but this simply isn’t true. The sophistication of the Qur’an and its cultural and historical implications are simply far beyond what the people groups who inhabited Mecca could have supported. Mecca was in the middle of nowhere with extremely limited resources that could not support the booming metropolis and cultural center the SIN demands of it. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay take a critical look at the falsely famed city.
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@DinaraDivision 4 ай бұрын

These 2 men are legendary. Forever will their names be known. Debunking the Zam Zam myth was my favourite video from them. Thankyou brothers

@DinaraDivision 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 🥱

@John14.6 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 You have the wrong user name. You should change it to @HeWhoCallsNamesAndThenRunsAway. assuming when you say defender of the truth, by truth you mean Islam. Well you never defend it. You just make snide remarks then run away. You never defend Islam from the points in the videos you comment on.

@ishtarlew598 4 ай бұрын

I'm surprised that the Quran gives the impression that Mecca and Medina had populations in the thousands, in spite of being in a desert.

@marierejouli6772 4 ай бұрын

Mohamed Addressing his Koraich people warning them of what happened in Sodom and Ghomorre`: Sourate Al Safphate verset 137: `And you certainly pass by them in the morning. and the night. Do you not reason then?`` How could Mohammed's people pass in morning and evening and see this place if they were not close? They would not have been able to make it 1200km away if they were in current Mecca but they could do so if they were in Petra.

@lordofmercy4807 4 ай бұрын

Regardless that Issa, I mean Jesus, excuse me, I got confused and wrote his real name, regardless that Jesus did not write a single letter in the Bible, regardless that there is no horse with a horn or a speaking red dragon and that the age of the earth is not 6 thousand years and regardless that Noah is an impossible story because ten sheep only need a truck loas of feed and more than 19 tons of water In a year, despite the fact that the idea of the Creator marrying a creature produces a god …..etc., religious belief must be respected.

@marierejouli6772 4 ай бұрын

What you write has nothing to do with my comment. You keep your issa and we keep our Jesus. Your hypocrisy is very visible.

@gaebi 4 ай бұрын

@@lordofmercy4807Anytime I hear a Muslim make a reference to something in the bible, it is always with profound ignorance. Be it willful ignorance or otherwise. Your religion is the most obvious lie I have ever heard in my life, but you've been beaten and brainwashed to worship Islam and its pagan deity. The God of Abraham has his message, He established His words, and He has led His people through multiple prophets. One misguided false prophet is not going to reduce the integrity of God's word in scriptures. Your books are lies

@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable 4 ай бұрын

@@lordofmercy4807 Atheist religion, which is based on lgbtqwertyP (p stands for pdfilia) and then soaked in communism, has many doctrines, for example, it says that men can menstruate and give birth, while nowhere in history has this been true. But it's not up to any atheist to think individually and then judge that this is false because it does not fit with reality, as a follower of atheist religion, his duty is to believe the claims without understanding. Questions are _not_ necessary.

@Yahshua_is_Yahweh 4 ай бұрын

Muhammad was born into the Q'ureshi family...According to the Q'ureshi faith, Allah was believed to be the devil's brother, the father of three daughters, and one of the 360 gods. Muhammad was a Q'ureshi believer for 35 years. Following that, Muhammad established Allah as the one God. Before Muhammad's time, no other prophets called Allah. They called Yahweh.

@JohnSmith-zs1bf 4 ай бұрын

Interesting. I don't know too much about it but it's clear to me that it was intentionally created to deceive. While Muslims may be generally well intenwasn't and attempting to take their faith seriously, whoever created it clearly wasnt.

@ygcg8696 4 ай бұрын

No Mohammad. No Mecca. No historical evidence, you see ! Muslims are hood winked and taken for a tortuous ride for over thousand years! ..Jay Smith Pfander films and CIRA . 🙃

@YosafatNugraha 4 ай бұрын

Al-lat, al-uzza and manat. Their names are written in quran and islamic scholars often refer to the verse as the satanic verse, that muhammad received a false revelation, and that's what prompted Salman Rushdie to write the Satanic Verses.

@Harith-le5iq 4 ай бұрын

That’s bullshit bro lmao 😂 you’re making things up

@Yahshua_is_Yahweh 4 ай бұрын

@@Harith-le5iq Characteristics of Allah claimed by the Quraysh during Muhammad's time. 1. Quraysh believed Allah was a member of the jinn family [Quran 37: 158] 2. Quraysh believed Allah was the partner of the jinn [Quran 6: 100 ] 3. Quraysh believed Allah was one of many co-equal gods [Quran 38: 5 ] 4. Quraysh believed Allah's daughters were Al-Latha , Al-Uzza, and Al- Manat [Quran 53: 19-23]

@mdcx2016 4 ай бұрын

Standard Islamic Narrative... SIN.

@g.whenderson6481 4 ай бұрын

Great work!, Yes the Muslims need to deal with this!!

@Hzzojr 4 ай бұрын

Hhhhhhh I'm sure u work with these dumb&dumber

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

@Yahshua_is_Yahweh 4 ай бұрын

Did Muhammad copy biblical stories? Yes! Definitely. (1) Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a Christian convert (a cousin of Mohammad's first wife) used to tell Mohammad biblical stories. (2) The following Hadith proves that Mohammad copied the bible "The people of the Scripture (Jews) used to recite the Torah in Hebrew and they used to explain it in Arabic to the Muslim" [Sahih al-Bukhari 4485]

@annemurphy9339 4 ай бұрын

They copied heavily from the Bible and tried to adopt its patriarchs & prophets, and also borrowed heavily from ancient gnostic Syriac scrolls.

@__sw__1 4 ай бұрын

@@annemurphy9339keep lying 1 - Who was created first, Adam or Satan? The Quran says Satan, the Bible doesn't say anything? 2 - Who was created first, Adam or the Angles? The Quran says the Angels, the Bible doesn't say anything? 3 - Why doesn't the Bible mention that Noah had two wives, one was disobedient, and she died And another which was saved? 4 - Why does the Bible say that Noah's ark is in Ararat but it was discovered in Al-Judyy, as the Quran says so? 5 - Why does the Bible say that God afflicted women for Eve's sin, and the Quran doesn't tell us such thing? 6 - Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood. The town of Thamoud has been discovered in Saudi Arabia--it's located in a place called Mada-in Saleh. And recently, the town of Aad has been discovered with the help of NASA's satellites. Check the link below: www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ubar/ 7 - Where does the Bible mention Prophet Saleh? 8 - Where does the Bible mention Prophet Huud? 9 - Where does the Bible mention Prophet Shu'ayb? 10 - Where does the Bible refer to Al-Khidr? 11 - Where does the Bible mention Luqmaan? 12 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of the Cow that happened between Moses and the Jews? 13 - Where do you find in the Quran any reference to Hosea, Malachi, Micha, Jude, Nahum, Nehemiah, Obadaiah, Esther, Joel, Ruth, etc.? 14 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of Thul-Qarnayn? 15 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of the People of the Cave? 16 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of Antioch in Surat Yasin? 17 - Why does the Bible say that Jesus was crucified, and the Quran says that he was saved? 18 - Why does the Bible say that Abraham sacrificed his only begotten son, Isaac, and forgets that he had another son called Ishamael, who is older than Isaac?. 19 - Regarding the dream Joseph had in Genesis 37, why is it fulfilled in the Quran and not fulfilled in the Bible? Could it be because that Joseph's mother died before Joseph had his dream? Bad prophecy. Read about the story here: www.clgraph.com/Private/abdal...tml#BibleError 20 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit had sex with Mary, and the Quran tells us that the Angel who visited Mary told her that she will bear a son, and he is ONLY informing her of what God has decreed?

@annemurphy9339 4 ай бұрын

@@__sw__1 These orders of events are understood in the Bible: the extra-biblical add-ons you reference are of no consequence and aren’t correct to begin with. The Bible contains no Arabic or Polish or Russian prophets either because prophets are to come from the brethren exclusively, the Hebrew tribes. The other non-biblical subjects you post have nothing to do with the one Elohim Creator God YHVH and His exclusive word to mankind, the holy Bible. The quran claims to explain everything but it does not: it is heavily dependent on its entire library of hadiths to help it make sense. It also has to refer to the Bible for key information - which is no surprise since it plagiarized from the Bible. It also,includes many gnostic accounts lifted from ancient Syriac scrolls such as the silly tale of Moses running nude after his clothing, etc. Perhaps you should wake up - and quick. Just because someone took poetic license in adding to the material taken from the Bible, doesn’t mean the Bible wasn’t their source. It so obviously and undeniably was.

@BandenIndarys 4 ай бұрын

I don't remember which Hadith, but I believe there is one where Muhammad was with his cousin editing the Quran. This would be in line where the Quran talks about Muhammad's friends dictating books and stories to him and then he would recite them to his followers as if they were revelations from Allah. Quran 25: "...This Koran is a mere fraud of his own devising, and others have helped him with it,"

@mugiwaraluffy6791 4 ай бұрын

If you don't remember you don't deserve talk about it..and you making up story and source trust me bro@@BandenIndarys

@lunafencoven 4 ай бұрын

One theory that I have is that Mecca could've existed, but it may have been exaggerated as a 'city.' Quarashi and other tribes in Arabia were caravaners. They needed several caravan outposts in the region with stored provisions for the people and the herds to rest and resupply and ultimately reach farther settlements to trade. Mecca could be one of these outposts.

@mattilatvala4164 4 ай бұрын

Without water (1 tiny well) and food, and positioned far from the (small) caravan route route, way down a plateau cliff and the climb back, this would be a silly move. Possibly starvation, death. At those times, a long desert caravan was not easy going. 🤔

@PhilidaFortune 4 ай бұрын

Mecca had no trade camels coming through.

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@ibarraamelia 4 ай бұрын

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@ibarraamelia 4 ай бұрын

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@ibarraamelia 4 ай бұрын

I enjoyed it just like I enjoy a $100k monthly around the turn!!!!

@somyaamohanty5498 4 ай бұрын

Without lie Islam die

@UlugbekAzimov-n4b 4 ай бұрын

Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

1. Arise, shine, for your light has come and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you. 2. For, behold, darkness covers the earth, and deep darkness the nations. But the Lord will shine upon you, and his glory will be seen upon you. 3. So the nations will walk in your light and the kings in the radiance of your radiance 7. All the flocks of Kedar will be gathered to you. The rams of Nebaioth will serve you. You may ascend upon my altar, and I will adorn the house of my beauty. 20. Your sun never sets. And your moon will not diminish, for the Lord will be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning will be fulfilled. 21. And all your people are righteous. Forever they will inherit the earth. The branch I plant, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. 22. The small becomes a thousand, and the humble becomes a strong nation. I, the Lord, will hasten it in his time (Isaiah, 60) What is meant by this text? This is talking about a place. Kedar son of Ismail 13. These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names according to their births. Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, and Mibsam (Genesis, 25) Nebaioth and Kedar are descendants of Ishmael. Muslims slaughter sheep in memory of God’s redemption of Abraham’s son. in Mekkah

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

1. Behold, my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one, in whom my soul is well pleased. I put my spirit on him, and he will bring forth truth to the nations. 2. He does not shout or raise his voice or be heard in the street. 11. Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voice, the lands that Kedar inhabited. Let the residents of Sela sing. From the mountaintops to shout. 19. Who is blind except My servant, and deaf as My Messenger whom I sent? Who is as blind as the perfect, and blind as the servant of the Lord? (Isaiah, 42) What is the meaning of this text? Sing, O mountains of Sila. do you know that mountain sela Located in the city where Muhammad lived. Go to Google and type sela mountain

@AdamosDad 4 ай бұрын

"When everyone is infected with the same brain-rotting madness, no-one is going to take exception to it. That this psychosis should still be defended by so-called ‘scholars’ and still causing misery around the world after 1400 years is a sad reflection on humanity. Or else, it is proof positive of the activity of a malign spirit."

@vironpayne3405 4 ай бұрын

If evidence for SIN was gasoline there wouldn't be enough to power a piss ant's motorcycle around the inside of a Cheerio.

@jawin4987 4 ай бұрын

I do this everyday with muslims in my erea, am from LAGOS NIGERIA.

@thecompass465 4 ай бұрын

Stay safe my friend troubling times ahead

@AndronikosNikephoros 4 ай бұрын

You are really brave

@jawin4987 4 ай бұрын

@@thecompass465 I will be safe, thank you very much.

@isaacfernandes656 4 ай бұрын

I'm interested in their responses to these facts.

@gaviriak 4 ай бұрын

Greetings brother , Nigerians are always in my prayers 🙏🏻☦️

@connieanderson7521 4 ай бұрын

Love your show! I’m getting a good education. I hope I can share with others, many others.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

Another great episode. Mecca simply didn't exist in the 7th century. No historical or archeological evidence for it. Even if it had existed as a settlement, it would have been a tiny hamlet, because the available water and flora were so limited. The place is also incredibly isolated. The real Mecca could not possibly be the birthplace of Islam, a religion that reflects a far more sophisticated cultural milieu and a far more complicated, heterogeneous religious ambience than could have existed in a tiny, isolate hamlet like Mecca.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 , LOL!!! SERIOUSLY??? Is this the best you can do, peanut - lob your asinine Islamic fairytales at me??? FYI, Adam NEVER lived in heaven. He did NOT fall to earth. Adam was CREATED ON EARTH. The Garden of Eden was located near the Tigris-Euphrates River basin. Plus, Adam NEVER prayed to Islam's PAGAN Allah!!! Adam knew and loved YAHWEH, the ONLY true God. You won't find mention of stone idol Allah ANYWHERE in the original Hebrew Tanakh or Greek New Testament. This "argument" was PATHETIC even for you. Mecca DID NOT EXIST until the mid-8th century. There is ZERO historical evidence for it before that time. Grow up and deal with the EVIDENCE. You are too old for silly fairytales.

@Nonahh3love 2 ай бұрын

Theres no historical or architectural evidence cause you weren’t interested back then, you basically ignored that area from how “desertly it is”, back then it was greeny and river my man it wasnt just sand(only one region i think) ,ppl there can handle everything and like living there with no problem someone like you or any that lives in greeny forest area can’t handle these kinds of heat which i understand .you don’t believe thats the birthplace because of not being green and civilization? See this is why its there to make you mind blowing of how impossible it is to be there. This is why theres this odd stereotypes of just sand with camels and no cars no lives

@mysotiras21 2 ай бұрын

@@Nonahh3love , what on earth are you babbling about??? There are NO rivers in Mecca, and there was no river there in the 7th century. There was NO greenery there and certainly NO forests! You are just INVENTING your facts to suit your bias. How old are you - 8, maybe? This comment of yours was 7 shades of ridiculous.

@Confessingjesuschrist 4 ай бұрын

It's huge to be able to challenge Islam on every level, including the most fundamental ideas like it's location and origin. This thing is a massive and ancient psyop.

@imransiddique8794 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for great Information. ❤

@stefanblumhoff2744 4 ай бұрын

Al fadi PLEASE do a team up with Sam from shamounian, the archive and christian prince a comprehensive series on SHIRK or polytheism in the Hajj, prayer and in the quran with transcript specifically on the prayer. So we can email this to Muslims all over the world. Can you also do a translation of your series into Arabic so native Arabic speakers can understand this. Please

@Steblu74 4 ай бұрын

Be brave gentlemen and thank you-

@anthony64632 4 ай бұрын

Why is the prophet called Muhammad when Muslim don't eat ham as ham is pork ?

@gtxchufxvj 4 ай бұрын

Because HAM made prophet MUH go MAD😂

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

It you think about it. MU= Cow HAM=Pork MAD=The Muslims

@JuliaTrisler 4 ай бұрын

That is an interesting point. Also, where did that word originally come from? The man was born in 570 -632 CE, his name was Qutham, not Muhammad. Muhammad is not a name. It is a title. It originally came via the Hebrew word Mashiaach, which means "annointed." The same word translated into Greek is "Christos."

@rdee1069 4 ай бұрын

Because the English word, “ham”, didn’t exist at that time in history and etymology.

@YousufAlee 4 ай бұрын

Fairytales of the ancients

@BOLT10108 4 ай бұрын

DR. JAY YOUR RESEARCH SHOULD CONVINCE THINKING MUSLIMS TO GIVE UP ISLAM!!!!

@maxirice3554 4 ай бұрын

Muslims can't afford to be convinced, even if REAL history REAL truth is presented to them .

@IchigoIchigo3 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 Nobody needs to demolish Islam, Mr. defender. Islam demolishes itself.

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212a lot of Muslims are leaving islam.. Internet will destroy Islam. So better stop following your pdfile propet. Even Aisha knows he is a scam. Here muhammad was caught sleeping with his slave. Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959 It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. ( He can't think of any excuse so muhammad made his allah saved him from his wives by revealing this verse) Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed: "O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse. Here you have to ask yourself. Is allah really a god? Or allah is just muhammad's TOOL to get his desires?

@John14.6 4 ай бұрын

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212A lot of people already left islam.. internet will End islam.

@flamingchillum 4 ай бұрын

Very good. Bring out the truth. People need to follow God, not false losers who never existed . Enlightenment is free............. For those who love GOD.

@xavierbesnard9201 4 ай бұрын

very good job !

@Enjoyinformation-hi9uo 4 ай бұрын

Wow fantastic. Blessings to you both ❤

@dj90-d8q 4 ай бұрын

Allah sounds like a mispronounced god named Baal

@pr7049 4 ай бұрын

Al is an old form of El ie meaning god. Al-Lah means god Lah. Ba-Al. Ba god. Pagan deities nevertheless.

@TohouBohou 4 ай бұрын

Its (al) lah .. meaning only the « god » ! Nothing new

@MaciejLorentz 4 ай бұрын

Its more like Abba the name Jesus used for father in Aramaic

@gaviriak 4 ай бұрын

Arabic is a cheap copy of Assyrian language. We all know the Assyrian Empire existed many centuries before than the arabic islamic empire so arabic language copied a lot from Asyrian language but arabs always belive they were first 🤣🤣🤣

@mrbaab5932 4 ай бұрын

@@gaviriakAssyria existed for thousands of years before Islam and not just hundreds.

@michaelg4919 4 ай бұрын

Please go into detail, how the Cave of Hira being at Kufa (Al-Hīra) fits into this. Because if Mecca corresponds to Petra and Medina corresponds to Kufa/Bagdad, then why is Hira not at Petra (did Muhammad hide at Medina and not at Mecca in the cave)?

@123dsj123 4 ай бұрын

In Dan Gibson’s documentary movie “The Sacred City”, the Cave of Hira is pointed out in Petra.

@mattilatvala4164 4 ай бұрын

Petra whole desert is full of mountain caves.

@123dsj123 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 You asked the question: “Is there a cave in Petra called Hira?” There are many caves in the ancient City of Petra, because it is the home of an ancient temple built out of rocks. As for a particular cave in the ancient City of Petra named “Hira”, it is difficult to determine. * We know nothing about a Mohammed, prophet of Islam, at the time he supposedly lived - in the 7th century. Stories about this prophet of Islam started to develop over 300 years after the City of Mecca was already decided to be his holy city. Among the developing stories is a cave named “Al-Hira”. A better question is this: Was there a cave called “Al-Hira” in Mecca at the time when Mohammed supposedly lived (or did the story about the cave developed 300 years later)? * The ancient City of Petra is a home of many caves - whether one of the caves is named “Al-Hira”, we do not know.

@123dsj123 3 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 Sam Shamoun debates Muslims. In Islam, God is transcendent - above all things. God is un-reachable, un-attainable, and un-knowable. In other words, God is un-like anything in creation. * Sam Shamoun made the following observation and asked an interesting question: If God is un-like anything in creation, then which of the following two statements more likely applies to God? (1) God is unit-personal - He is one Person in one Being. (2) God is triune - He is three Persons in one Being. * Oh, one more! If you want to make a creature your god - a creative being who has one person within his oneness, then you have many creatures to choose from: Satan, man, and demons - each has one person in his oneness. God is un-like His creatures - He has within His Oneness three Persons: (1) Father, (2) Son, and (3) Holy Spirit. * The Message of the Bible: Over 2,000 years ago, one of the three Persons within the “Oneness of God” clothed (or covered) Himself in human flesh by way of the Virgin Mary; and He walked among mankind. He died for the sins of man. On the third day, He rose again back to life. And because He conquered death and lives, all men who put their trust in Him can live also.

@Yahshua_is_Yahweh 4 ай бұрын

Mohammad was born as a Qureyshi. In Qureyshi religion, there were 360 Pagan gods. Example: Manaf, Addar, Uzza, Latha, Lah, Muttalib, Hubal etc The Qureyshi Family Tree of Muhammad: 1. AbduManaf (which means "Slave of Manaf"). He was the grandfather of Abdu-Al-Muttalib. 2. AbduUzza (which means "Slave of Uzza"). He was the brother of AbduManaf 3. AbduAddar (which means "Slave of Addar"). He was the brother of AbduManaf 4. Abdu Al-Muttalib (which means "Slaves of Muttalib"). He was the father of Abdu Al-Lah 5. Abdu Al-Lah (Which means "Slave of Lah"). He was the father of Mohammad.

@rc6289 4 ай бұрын

Qutham the Son of the Slave of Al-Lat.

@annemurphy9339 4 ай бұрын

So muhammad already had a relative named for the crescent moon god allah. It appears all he did was to cut out the other gods & goddesses from the Arabic pantheon of gods, and proclaim his tribal allah the largest/greatest.

@rc6289 4 ай бұрын

I just subscribed to your Channel...

@annemurphy9339 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 I am assured of my eternal outcome in Christ Jesus, just as every believer is. And I have never and would never mock the one true Elohim Creator God YHVH. I also only told you the truth in the love of Christ in my earlier posts, and was not mocking. No Christian posts biblical truth in these comments for any reason other than love for our brothers & sisters lost in deception. Every eternal soul is precious in the eyes of our Creator and He desires none perish. That is the only incentive we have to witness to you the truth of Yeshua ha’Mashiach.

@MistressKarma6969 4 ай бұрын

@@annemurphy9339Amen

@bebopperbott1517 4 ай бұрын

AS BUGS BUNNY WOULD SAY I SHOULDA TURN LEFT AT ALBUQUERQUE TO FIND A MECCA

@loulasher 4 ай бұрын

Is Hagarism still worth reading, or is it antiquaited now?

@MrSupplementScene 4 ай бұрын

Hagarism is definitely worth reading. You can find pdf forms on the internet

@GizmoFromPizmo 4 ай бұрын

This is the same kind of logic I use when debating Catholicism. If Mary is SO important to our salvation today then why didn't the apostles teach any of this material in the first century. In Catholicism, Mary is the best way to God, as Jesus is less approachable than Mary. But if this has always been the case then why didn't John, the apostle who took Mary into his home at the death of Jesus on the cross, why didn't he tell us any of this - not in his gospel or any of his three epistles or the Book of Revelation? Nothing about her perpetual virginity, her function as co-mediator with Jesus, nothing about the rosary, nothing about her being the Queen of Heaven (an epithet reserved in the bible for the goddess Isis (Asherah))? Catholicism has at least as many holes in her narrative as Islam and I'm here to call them out. I don't know any Muslims but I know a SLEW of Catholics. My whole family is Catholic. I love my family and friends but their religion's got to GO!

@marcelalhind 4 ай бұрын

You don't believe Mary was virgin. I don't think you're neither a Christian nor a Muslim

@GizmoFromPizmo 4 ай бұрын

@@marcelalhind - Learn to read. Do you know what "perpetual" means? Mary was a virgin when she conceived Jesus - as it is written. The Infancy Gospel of James - a third century forgery - is where we find Jesus being magically beamed out of Mary's womb in order to preserve her hymen and thus her virginity. There is nothing in the scriptures about this taking place. Don't be a troll.

@BamerJammer 4 ай бұрын

There are two problems here. One is that every second you spend thinking about how to attack other Christians is a second not spent on defending Christians. Second, you have such a strange and borderline unintelligable view of Catholics that for whatever hidden noble purpose might be gained from what you are doing I fear is wasted in the first place.

@Jer20.9 4 ай бұрын

There's a theory that the Catholic church started Islam, one of Jezebels daughters. Muhammad's first wife was a Catholic nun. Look up Alberto Rivera, he was a Jesuit priest who go saved.

@Lala81xx 3 ай бұрын

The apostles didn’t mention Mary, but you forgot to mention that Jesus himself mentioned her importance to one of the apostles when he was about to die on the cross? My bible knowledge is very poor, but I remember Him saying something like “This is your mother”.

@AbhorEvilRomans12 4 ай бұрын

Please consider sharing apologetics for Christianity. At least provide a direction towards some apologetics. Mosab hassan yosef was claiming Christianity for a long time while but now denies that Christianity knows the truth and he talked about practicing yoga. Polemics are awesome but new Convertsto Christianity need to have a strong foundation. People learn about loving your neighbor as yourself but they don't know what to think about the resurrection they don't know what to think about evolution versus creation. And likely don't consider the matter important.

@Timmy-bb7ch 4 ай бұрын

quran ' man created in stages from the earth/evolution ' bible ' earth 6k yrs young. ruling out evolution ' muslim 2002

@YosafatNugraha 4 ай бұрын

That's why Christians need to be active in their Church. Join Bible study group, enroll in Catechesis, ask your pastor to teach you, join live sessions online discussing the Bible (like what Shamounian do every day). Build a strong foundation first before you head out and start apologetics. Most of the apologetics I know don't have enough strong foundation and when they can't answer some questions, it dealt a major blow to their faith.

@mariabarnes9197 4 ай бұрын

Yes, discipleship is a likely issue-- both on the part of the discipling organization & on the part of the individual. Both play a role. The underlying principle at work is: "By beholding, we are changed." So the individual has a responsibility to behold Christ in the scripture, to learn of his character of agape-love, his forgiveness, his mercy & kindness. There is a need to trace the working of God from the Old Testament to the New, to see the continuity, & how the New is an unfolding of the Old. The Holy Spirit, who is the ultimate teacher, sheds light & understanding on the scriptures so that things hard to understand are made plain. In this work, both the organization & the individual are to play a part. For many, including M. Yusef, it seems these ingredients were missing, & instead, he beheld continually & primarily the evil (of Hamas' intentions, etc). By beholding (continuous looking) anything, we are changed. When we encounter evil, God wants us to pray, as did Moses, Joshua, Nehemiah, David, etc, & await his directives, timing & way, as opposed to taking things in our own hands, & spoiling his work. Our danger is self-reliance, & self dependence, leading to self-righteousness. But it is clear that the only righteousness that avails anything is Christ's. We are to abide & remain in him & in his way. Even Christ has said that of himself he could do nothing John 5:19, 30).

@Timmy-bb7ch 4 ай бұрын

@@YosafatNugraha pell/teller the fastest way to leave the Bible is by reading the Bible

@Timmy-bb7ch 4 ай бұрын

@@mariabarnes9197 can the Holy Spirit explain why bible says ' earth a flat circle. does not move. sun orbits the earth. earth 6k yrs young ruling our evolution. lol

@Charlie-Em 4 ай бұрын

I'm never satisfied by the bumper music of Al Fadi or Dr Jay. Update: this beat is growing on me, especially with the intros where Dr Pfander breaks down the topic for the day. Y'all both look good btw on TV, very stately...

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

@glock4735 4 ай бұрын

What suprises me, no one has yet made the comparison between Allah and the voodoo demon Damb-Allah. Not only does the name suggest a connection, both give each other the same 100 names and character traits. We know the arabs held slaves from east africa, so the Qureshi knew voodoo and the african religions. Also, where does the word wudu come from? We know its the word for the islamic ritual washing, but why dont they use "ghusl" which is washing in arabic. Damballah/voodoo - Allah/wudu My suggest is, the origin of the word wudu means voodoo and theyre praising the serpant demon Damballah.

@user-sy9hh7x9fi 4 ай бұрын

God bless you brothers!!!

@jeangatti9384 Ай бұрын

There clearly is a distinction to make between the initial meaning of the coranic text (which was originally christian, though anti-trinitarian) and the meaning that was imposed (and distorted) later (9th and 10th centuries) by the abbassid caliphs (with the creation of the so-called "prophetic tradition" or "sunnah" with a multitude of hadiths, tafsir and siraa inventions). Their goal was to create a new religion serving their imperial interests of conquest and domination by the sword

@Ordinal_Yoda 4 ай бұрын

Could someone broaden my understanding of the line of argumentation as to why "the missing Mecca" proves as an issue for Islam?

@PeterbFree 4 ай бұрын

Muhammad was supposed to have lived in Mecca. However, when Muhammad was supposed to have lived Mecca did not exist

@TheHistorybear 4 ай бұрын

The missing Mecca is a problem because the entire Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) is based on 3 legs; the place, the man, and the book. Take away a leg and the narrative crumbles as a lie. The SIN says the Adam, Eve, and Abraham live in Mecca. However, there is absolutely NO mention of the place in any historical texts/maps prior to the late 7th century which was well after the alleged Mohammad died. If there was no Mecca, there was no Mohammad, and if there was neither Mecca nor Mohammad, there is no revelation, therefore, Islam is a big lie.

@Ordinal_Yoda 4 ай бұрын

Still need more help understanding though because many people know that the standard Islamic narrative has more holes in it that a screen. However there actually is an unknown number of Islamists. Who somehow received this concoction. And many who have communicated with any of them know of their inconsistencies. So I need more then the fact of Islam's inconsistency for the reason as to why the missing Mecca proposes such an issue for Muslims. Does it somehow disprove the Quran? If so how. And why isn't the 70 plus mentions of the Torah and Islam's dismissal of the Sabbath not of a greater argumentation as to Islam's absurdities?

@Ordinal_Yoda 4 ай бұрын

Does it disprove the Quran? And if so how?

@123dsj123 4 ай бұрын

@@Ordinal_Yoda If there was no Mecca at the time when Mohammed supposedly lived, then there was no Angel Jibril bringing Quran to Mohammed in Mecca. It does not disprove the Quran, but it disproves the origin of the Quran.

@JinhuoXiChina 4 ай бұрын

Great Channel brothers in Christ ☦️

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

1. Behold, my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one, in whom my soul is well pleased. I put my spirit on him, and he will bring forth truth to the nations. 2. He does not shout or raise his voice or be heard in the street. 11. Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voice, the lands that Kedar inhabited. Let the residents of Sela sing. From the mountaintops to shout. 19. Who is blind except My servant, and deaf as My Messenger whom I sent? Who is as blind as the perfect, and blind as the servant of the Lord? (Isaiah, 42) What is meant by these words is where Mount Sila is located. This text talks about a messenger

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

@topgun9253 4 ай бұрын

What is the name of the book that Jay Smith hold in the video

@MikeElkashawy 4 ай бұрын

I don’t know where it was written but the base of your argument is wrong. It’s documented historically that Jewish tribes have immigrated to the Arabian peninsula around 500 BC. You can easily Google that. That also explain why Judaism is wide spread in the early days of Judaism in the southern Arabia and east Africa.

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

“I don’t know” is not good enough. Do you have any idea who youre questioning? They weren’t born yesterday. They would mop the floor with you on the topic. Sheikh Google ain’t helping you by the looks of it. You go google it & come back with the answers. You’re the one trying to refute them. So don’t be lazy. Go do your homework & then come back. Otherwise, shhh 🤫 Much love bradda

@ericlima2832 4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

@johnbones261 4 ай бұрын

I agree there was no Mecca before the 8 century, and I'm being generous with my timeline. But, in 1300's AD, Mecca was a thriving town. Where were they getting their water from. It wasn't the Zamzam Well, as it's flow would not sustain a thriving town. Can you please enlighten me please.

@karenthompson1337 4 ай бұрын

Queen Zuvaydah built an aqueduct in early 800’s to bring water from, I think, Taif.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

In the 8th century AD some queen had an aqueduct built, carrying more water from a nearby oasis. I believe that the aqueduct was called "Ayn Zubaydah".

@sandy11711 4 ай бұрын

There was Mecca with the black stone Moses told his people to go there and make hag in Hebrew it called hag and give them a little wooden Khaba to ware on the forehead to pray go do your research it’s true.

@karenthompson1337 3 ай бұрын

@@sandy11711 if true. Please show us all the trade records between Mecca and Taif, Mecca and Yathrub, Mecca and Najaran. We have all trade records between Najran, Taif & Yathrub, why do they not mention Mecca? Why no trade records from Meccas port Jeddah and the 5 ports on the African side of the Red Sea?

@sandy11711 3 ай бұрын

@@karenthompson1337 what trade r u talking about u was around that time think before putting your words into nonsense.

@BijoyP-h2l 4 ай бұрын

The most important point is that nobody who practices Islam he or she never embraced the holy life but if anyone practices Christianity he or she warmly receives the Holy life. It is the only proof that Christianity is truly true. My long years study.

@ggunasekaran-em4qs 4 ай бұрын

JAY MUST WRITE BOOKS FOR USE IN THE SCHOLARLY CIRCLE AND FOR POSTERITY FOR THESE ARGUMENTS TO TAKE EFFECT. THE ARGUMENTS SHALL NOT BE IN THE YOU TUBE ONLY. THESE ARGUMENTS MUST HAVE THEIR PLACE IN ALL. UNIVERSITIES AROUND THE WORLD. FOR THAT , JAY YOU MUST COME OUT WITH A BOOK

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

1. Arise, shine, for your light has come and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you. 2. For, behold, darkness covers the earth, and deep darkness the nations. But the Lord will shine upon you, and his glory will be seen upon you. 3. So the nations will walk in your light and the kings in the radiance of your radiance 7. All the flocks of Kedar will be gathered to you. The rams of Nebaioth will serve you. You may ascend upon my altar, and I will adorn the house of my beauty. 20. Your sun never sets. And your moon will not diminish, for the Lord will be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning will be fulfilled. 21. And all your people are righteous. Forever they will inherit the earth. The branch I plant, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. 22. The small becomes a thousand, and the humble becomes a strong nation. I, the Lord, will hasten it in his time (Isaiah, 60) What place is this text talking about? And the rams of Kedar. Kedar son of Ismail. What a coincidence.

@You.are.boring.me.now2024 4 ай бұрын

Any reason why you left out most the chapter ? Tell everybody who it is and make your case, it should be interesting even for us agnostic/atheists.

@jeangatti9384 Ай бұрын

historical research proves that the city of Mecca could not have existed as a large commercial caravan city in the years 600 AD Main reasons for this fact are: 1) Mecca is not an oasis, so there is no surface water (only a well, known as zamzam which is clearly unsufficient and inappropriate for watering many caravan camels) 2) Mecca is not shown on any map at that time or even previously 3) Mecca is located down of Hidjaz plateau and could therefore not be located on the caravan route which is located more than 1000 m above on the plateau (eg the city of Taeef is located at an altitude of ca 2000 m while Mecca is at 300 m) 4) there were no archeological remains or artefacts (coins, potteries, ruins, bones etc) discovered in Mecca dating from before circa year 700 It is impossible that a large city would leave no trace at all of its past 5) no agriculture whatsoever is possible in this wild rocky desert location, how could a large city survive in such hostile environment ?

@zachhorvath4409 4 ай бұрын

Yes thanks , i wouldn't dare to debate Muslims if not for my knowledge of Torah Tanahk bible who and apocrypha as well as these videos giving me fuel to debate

@tentimesful 4 ай бұрын

you cannot create quran, well if you can I challenge you to bring now before time pasts like it didnt past time before muhammed could bring the miraclous suratal baqrah for 1+ hour long at once, and more of those suras and they were also memorized by his people to wright it down the quran and quran never changed

@tartufo4870 4 ай бұрын

God bless you guys 🙏🙌

@connieanderson7521 4 ай бұрын

Mormonism in the USA says Jesus and devil were brothers.

@jeffreydavis1986 4 ай бұрын

They’re very similar , Joesph smith was actually called at the time “modern Muhammad “

@anthony64632 4 ай бұрын

Mormonism is a wacky religion

@jeanalice4732 4 ай бұрын

😂

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

Both lovers of children too. They have a lot in common

@gaviriak 4 ай бұрын

Fake Prophets everywere

@nsp74 4 ай бұрын

Yeshua bless you Dr. Jay

@wescolumbus621 4 ай бұрын

We may never know for sure. Except that the Arabic Reader, Kur'an, was a relatively recent copy/paste and change-a-lot of the ancient Hebrew Reader, Mikrah (Bible). Both Readers come from the Hebrew & Arabic Semitic root K.R.A (read).

@ShaznaAli-m2x 4 ай бұрын

Jesus spoke Aramiac, and then one might want to know, why did not the bible was not written in Aramiac or why not even his apostles? Quran was revealed in the Arabic language that was spoken in same language. It makes logical sense.

@FerdinandKroukamp 4 ай бұрын

@user-vw4zb9rq6y I speak Afrikaans, which derives from Dutch, flemish, German, and just wrote to you in English . does this make sense.

@mattilatvala4164 4 ай бұрын

@@ShaznaAli-m2xNew Testament "books" and "letters" were written for hellenistic audiences, to be spread trough Mediterranean. Aramaic was spoken by tiny poor minority in 1 place.

@leemanwrong 4 ай бұрын

Greek was the trade language at the time so it made sense to write it in Greek so it’s more accessible to everyone.

@mahmoudsbeih8614 4 ай бұрын

@@leemanwrong1. Arise, shine, for your light has come and the glory of the Lord has risen upon you. 2. For, behold, darkness covers the earth, and deep darkness the nations. But the Lord will shine upon you, and his glory will be seen upon you. 3. So the nations will walk in your light and the kings in the radiance of your radiance 7. All the flocks of Kedar will be gathered to you. The rams of Nebaioth will serve you. You may ascend upon my altar, and I will adorn the house of my beauty. 20. Your sun never sets. And your moon will not diminish, for the Lord will be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning will be fulfilled. 21. And all your people are righteous. Forever they will inherit the earth. The branch I plant, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. 22. The small becomes a thousand, and the humble becomes a strong nation. I, the Lord, will hasten it in his time (Isaiah, 60) What is meant by this text? This is talking about a place. Kedar son of Ismail 13. These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names according to their births. Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, and Mibsam (Genesis, 25) Nebaioth and Kedar are descendants of Ishmael. Muslims slaughter sheep in memory of God’s redemption of Abraham’s son. in Mekkah

@idleobserver4295 4 ай бұрын

Can someone inform me if they ever addressed why Mecca was chosen for the conception of the Islamic narrative if it was so insubstantial? Maybe its obscurity made it easier to mold a story, considering that few would know if it were true or not.

@lapilulecryptee7518 4 ай бұрын

Also is there a single evidence in the Qu'ran that the Kaaba is the house of Allah ? The only verses that i do find on this is that the Kaaba is simply an offering, a gift of Ibra'him and Isma'il for Allah to take(or not) in the surat 2, Al Baqarah.. Verse 126, i quote : "وَإِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِـۧمُ رَبِّ ٱجْعَلْ هَـٰذَا بَلَدًا ءَامِنًۭا وَٱرْزُقْ أَهْلَهُۥ مِنَ ٱلثَّمَرَٰتِ مَنْ ءَامَنَ مِنْهُم بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْـَٔاخِرِ ۖ قَالَ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَأُمَتِّعُهُۥ قَلِيلًۭا ثُمَّ أَضْطَرُّهُۥٓ إِلَىٰ عَذَابِ ٱلنَّارِ ۖ وَبِئْسَ ٱلْمَصِيرُ ١٢٦ "And ˹remember˺ when Abraham said, “My Lord, make this city ˹of Mecca˺ secure and provide fruits to its people-those among them who believe in Allah and the Last Day.” He answered, “As for those who disbelieve, I will let them enjoy themselves for a little while, then I will condemn them to the torment of the Fire. What an evil destination!” Verse 127 : وَإِذْ يَرْفَعُ إِبْرَٰهِـۧمُ ٱلْقَوَاعِدَ مِنَ ٱلْبَيْتِ وَإِسْمَـٰعِيلُ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّآ ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْعَلِيمُ ١٢٧ "And ˹remember˺ when Abraham raised the foundation of the House with Ishmael, ˹both praying,˺ “Our Lord! Accept ˹this˺ from us. You are indeed the All-Hearing, All-Knowing." Do you notice something odd with these verses and the translations ? In the verse 126 we see no mentions of 'Mecca' at ALL ! In fact it should be translated as 'ءَامِنًۭا' ('Amen') in the place of 'MECCA'. So if you see a translation of the Qu'ran who says 'this city of mecca', it should be 'the city of the amen' Thus the translation is a lie to say the least.. The verse 127 confirms that it is only a gift from Ibra'him and Isma'il who is given to Allah but who should not necessarily be established as an ordinance(!) Also where does it states in the Qu'ran directly from Allah that the Kaaba ought to be his house (?) I've yet to find the evidence.. Rather i find it more to be the contrary in the Qu'ran.. In the verse 115 of the surat al baqarah, it is written, i quote : "وَلِلَّهِ ٱلْمَشْرِقُ وَٱلْمَغْرِبُ ۚ فَأَيْنَمَا تُوَلُّوا۟ فَثَمَّ وَجْهُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَٰسِعٌ عَلِيمٌۭ" ١١٥ "To Allah belong the east and the west, SO WHEREVER YOU TURN YOU ARE FACING TOWARDS ALLAH.1 SURELY ALLAH IS ALL-ENCOMPASSING, ALL-KNOWING. Thus it could be considered that praying to one direction 'only' is more akin to idolatry and to a form of betrayal of Allah since it is in direct contradiction to the nature of Allah who is all encompassing.. Yet it is a pillar to do a pilgrimage to mecca for Allah.. So are we sure that it is not the Ishmaelites and their agenda who statuted before Allah and Mohammed and put these things in his place for their own interest ? Also if the establishment of the muslim empires have been done thanks to religious presumptions/manipulations including the house of the Saud, it is clearly showed in the Qu'ran with the topic of the Kaaba that the purpose of the establishment of this house is elsewhere.. And it is no wonder since the Saudians may be linked to the Edomites who in the Bible are closely related to the Ishmaelites.. Edom (Esau) is basically a son of Ishmael by intermarriage, Esau married Mahalath, a daughter of Ishmael in Genesis 28, i quote : "8And seeing that his father Isaac disapproved of the Canaanite women, 9Esau went to Ishmael and married Mahalath, the sister of Nebaioth and daughter of Abraham’s son Ishmael, in addition to the wives he already had.".. בֶּ֙רַע֙

@babasouq1875 Ай бұрын

Now the Petra narrative makes sense

@geoffreyhenny4949 4 ай бұрын

I love your work but I have not heard from anyone, other than pieces from representatives of Noahide Jews, what a credible detailed alternative narrative might be to the SIN. Can you discuss this.

@cherylconway749 4 ай бұрын

What about sin?

@shelleyhender8537 4 ай бұрын

@@cherylconway749 “SIN” - refers to the Standard Islamic Narrative.

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

Oh you haven’t heard? The SIN has HOLES in it. Holes all over

@cherylconway749 4 ай бұрын

@shelleyhender8537 still don't understand.

@shelleyhender8537 4 ай бұрын

@@cherylconway749 Hi Cheryl - I apologize for not being able to respond earlier, but I appreciate your text. If you want to learn more about the Standard Islamic Narrative, you can discover it via this website/podcast, or you can conduct even more extensive research through various reputable international scholars…many are secular…while others are conducted by Christian or Islamic individuals and institutions. There are many newcomer friendly sites, of which you can explore, along with articles, books, podcasts, YT channels, etc. My only caution is to ensure the information is represented by reputable sources and scholars…not someone invested in a singular, biased interest or viewpoint. Basically, S.I.N. represents the traditions of Islam, in an attempt to explain Islam through the lens of the Qur’an, hadiths, etc. As Islam tries to use traditions to explain its origins, history and development. However, scholarship states there is a lack of factual evidence for such claims in the Standard Islamic Narrative, as it is not based on historical (literary accounts) or other factual evidence (archaeological, geographical, scientific), as we commonly measure other narratives by. I’m unable to do this topic justice, nor explain it thoroughly in text format, so I encourage you to search it out via reputable, scholar backed sources, of which a vast amount can be obtained online and in an approachable, simplified manner. If this still sounds complicated or unclear, please reach out to me, and I will try to help you get started. Maybe, in the meantime, since texting you, someone else has explained this more thoroughly. Either way, I’m available, if you wish to further discuss, ask questions, and gain both clarity and understanding of the Islamic State Narrative…or other topics of interest to you. Many blessings☺ Cheers!🇨🇦

@phillipbradshaw 3 ай бұрын

Oldest writing of Allah is in an ancient myth about Allah organizing a labor rebellion against a Master that was making them fuel a smelter furnace. But modern generic Allah has the same use as "God" in English. Yahweh is what the Egyptians called the idol Jupitor. Yet the Creator of the Universe who spoke with Mosheh, and led Yisrael out of Mitzrayim into the Promised Land [that was formerly populated by people that began wicked practices] spoke His name to Mosheh that all would know, His name is Yehovah, Who was, is, and shall Be. Yah!

@simonhengle8316 4 ай бұрын

Maybe you could get Odon to comment on Antione Moussali's work, which I believe is separate to Gallaz's work. In 1999, *Antoine Moussali, a keen specialist of the Koran and the Arabic language, gradually came to understand how and why ALL the references of muḥammad (4 + aḥmad) are de facto part of interpolations into the Koranic text. The subject was very sensitive; it still is. However, such a matter could not be addressed without first establishing it within the general framework of a historical- critical approach to the real origins of Islam. Today, all serious scholars know that these origins are neither to be found in Mecca nor in Hijāz, and that the figure of the “Prophet of Islam” is but a sheer fabrication. These were prerequisite steps. For the first time in 2005, the five mentions of the name of the Prophet of Islam in the Koran were stated as interpolations within a 1,100-page synthesis spanning two volumes: Le messie et son prophète. * Fr. Antoine Moussali (1920-2003), a Lebanese priest, had given Arabic lessons on Algerian television - at least for as long as his Christian status remained unknown ‒ and to the monks of Tibhirine as well before the dark years. These monks were murdered in 1996 during of the civil war that raged and devastated Algeria from 1990 to 2000. Fr. Antoine M. was able to flee to France in time.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

There is a movie that is loosely based upon this cleric and his companions, called "Of Gods and Men", released 2010.

@jeangatti9384 Ай бұрын

From recent lexical analysis it appears that what is referred to as "muhammad" in the quran (which means "the praised one") is not a name but a title which refers to Jesus, as the prophet and messiah. So early muslims (not called muslims but mumineen) were in fact anti-trinitarian christians who accepted Jesus as prophet and messiah but rejected his divine nature (this is why he is always called "Issa ibn Meryam" ie "Jesus son of Mary" in the quran, but not "son of God")

@simonhengle8316 Ай бұрын

@@jeangatti9384 They just got the name wrong, plain and simple The Mohammad in the Qurans probably does refer to Jesus, but they are later interpolations Strange that isn’t brought up?

@mysotiras21 Ай бұрын

@@jeangatti9384 , bingo!

@jeangatti9384 Ай бұрын

@@simonhengle8316 There clearly is a distinction to make between the initial meaning of the coranic text (which was originally christian, though anti-trinitarian) and the meaning that was imposed (and distorted) later (9th and 10th centuries) by the abbassid caliphs (with the creation of the so-called "prophetic tradition" or "sunnah" with a multitude of hadiths, tafsir and siraa inventions). Their goal was to create a new religion serving their imperial interests of conquest and domination by the sword

@ElmtreeProduction 3 ай бұрын

I don’t know about this guys, why is then so many highly educated people in the west accepted Islam, doctors, scholars, professors

@alicelund147 4 ай бұрын

Is there a book with the complete Quran in its original text from Syro-Aramaic?

@pkbalram640 4 ай бұрын

Petra is in Jordan so how could islam started in the North. All the high mountains and cave points to petra where baal was worshiped. They had a shrine for Baal and Allah and his daughters. In koran Allah says that would you worship Baal and forsake the best of the CREATORS. Mind you it says creators (plural) This proves there are many Gods. Yaweh is a jealous god, he was jealous of who? Sounds like the greek god of war. 🤔

@gaviriak 4 ай бұрын

Quoran is historical wrong so you can't use it as resource. It says Ancient Egyptians used crucixions 🤣 but Ancient Egyptians never used Crucixions in all their history and that's an archeological fact.

@TomTom-ku6qi 3 ай бұрын

YAHUSHA Ha Maschiach Baruk Haba Bashem YAHUAH!

@JemeelaAl-Sayyadi 3 ай бұрын

Adonai Eloheim Yeshua Ha Machiah ❤️ AMEN.

@sgt.grinch3299 4 ай бұрын

Great news

@margahe9157 4 ай бұрын

I wish, you wouldn't only talk! I wish, you would show some Slides, were we can see what you say.! I would take photos and send them to people who never will listen to your videos!

@mattilatvala4164 4 ай бұрын

I have taken 100 screenshots of the ample slides.

@Sadik-568 4 ай бұрын

That's what happen when you smoke dried poop 😂😂

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

What else could desert stone-kissers smoke?

@Bible_Condone_3yrGirl_Marriage 4 ай бұрын

@@mysotiras21 *God doesn't need any innocent blood for atonement because God is supposed to be all powerful and he can create billions of planets fill with blood* 😄

@Bible_Condone_3yrGirl_Marriage 4 ай бұрын

@@mysotiras21 How about necklace with cross kissers? or dog kissers? 🤣

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

@@Bible_Condone_3yrGirl_Marriage , the Torah is CRYSTAL CLEAR that blood sacrifice is REQUIRED for sin atonement. The TRUE prophets CONCUR. WHO are you to tell God how to operate??? The REAL God, Yahweh, is perfectly JUST as well as perfectly MERCIFUL. Sin requires restitution. If God were to simply forgive sin without restitution, that would be merciful, but NOT just. By contrast, if God were to demand restitution but refuse to forgive sin, that would be unmerciful. You are confused because your fake god Allah is neither just nor merciful. He is simply power-drunk and capricious. Allah forgives whomever he pleases and damns whomever he pleases; no rhyme nor reason to his blessing and damning. Equally bad, he sends ALL humans to hell for retribution, before permitting A FEW to go to Jannah. Allah is simply SATAN in disguise.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

@@Bible_Condone_3yrGirl_Marriage , who is talking about necklaces here? Do you suffer from ADHD???

@youtubeuser1993 4 ай бұрын

It happened in the Persian empire. We all know that

@y.israel922 4 ай бұрын

يا أرعن 👽 , אני רוצה It's A Fruitless

@oldmah6241 4 ай бұрын

Oooo, fake comments here! As a Christian I care very much if people are being lead astray and lied to.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

Muslims ALWAYS troll this channel and make fake comments. Are you surprised? Allah is the best of deceivers, after all.

@mdmubaraq 3 ай бұрын

these are the guys who believe that "God died on the cross"..

@MahmudHossen-bn7ur 3 ай бұрын

"It's not the eyes that are blind ....BT hearts " Allah said that for a reason

@HHasan-of2vi 4 ай бұрын

Frustration and desperation at its peak.

@MB-nq3lx 4 ай бұрын

Who 's this New shaitan ???

@gaviriak 4 ай бұрын

There is just 1 Satan and he is muhamad's fake god allah

@hielogogo9109 4 ай бұрын

Islam comes forth out of a sin and is a counter ideology created by the Ottoman Empire, Mecca literally didn't exist during Muhammad his so called time. God All mighty created from his own spirit Yeshua to represent humanity. Yeshua performed miracles, raised humans from the death and created doves out of clay. Human Body to represent humanity but a piece of God's spirit therefore the Son of God, not a prophet but the fortold Messiah. God is to big to see by human eyes, he's creating universes etc but the word still has to be spread and therefore created Yeshua in human form with divine spirit, Yeshua is there to guide human souls in the fathers name. Yeshua loves humanity so much he let his body die on the cross and took on the sins of humanity, every good person has a chance of Heaven but by following Yeshua you surely go to Heaven, The Truth, The Way and The Life. Don't believe something created centuries later without any eye witnesses coming forth out of a horrible person and the greatest of deceivers. And you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power coming with the clouds of Heaven - Yeshua "Jesus" Christ. I'm praying for my Arabian brothers and sisters to come back to there original Middle Eastern religion and not this counter opressive ideology created to oppress you.

@krislo4788 4 ай бұрын

Lol...Jesus is a myth as well

@hielogogo9109 4 ай бұрын

@@krislo4788 Very simple answer but of course you are entitled to you're own opinion. For me it's different because of personal experience and i'm not diagnosed schizophrenia.

@sheikhboyardee556 4 ай бұрын

@@krislo4788 Too many eye witnesses to say that, including non-Christians at the time. You need to study a little more.

@markwhite5926 4 ай бұрын

God created Jesus??? Jesus is God... Jesus has no start or end! How can God create Jesus out of His own Spirit... God can't change, therefore your statement is categorically FALSE No good person goes to heaven... Only those who have faith in God through Christ

@markwhite5926 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 hahahahaha Billions of years... What nonsense! And Jesus never came late. He came exactly when He was supposed to according to His amazing plan to redeem the word through Christ. ‭Galatians 4:4-5 NKJV‬ [4] But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, [5] to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Gal.4.4-5.NKJV

@azedinebenammar4339 4 ай бұрын

Jay, I'm on board! You know, you don't need no help from anyone on your show! Ok, Mecca did not exist during the writing of the Koran, but what about Medina? The Jews know better! I had challenged you before to cite any work or document that is 1400 years old which described and explained natural phenomena( cloud formation, hydraulics, geology) as the Koran did. I know you won't because you won't succeed and because your audience is essentially Christians who do no seek objective knowledge.

@jeangatti9384 Ай бұрын

Do you admit that Mecca did not exist in the 7th century ?

@warrior6803 3 ай бұрын

😂 math you mad

@tribeofjudahlionel 4 ай бұрын

Mohammad is senior in devils mind

@ibrahimsd8995 3 ай бұрын

Assumptions and deductions a Big YAWN who said the book was written in Makkah to start with thats what i want to know. Quran was compiled over a long period of time so the point you trying to make is rather stupid, how to Judge is its Content and its affect on it followers . Debate me one on one and i will show u the hard way.

@advancokic4192 3 ай бұрын

What a bunch of crap. Where’s Kaba and how old it is?

@frederickpile3599 4 ай бұрын

It's written "beka "in arabic not mekka.

@mattilatvala4164 4 ай бұрын

I guess that best scholars and this Saudi can read.

@pocox3299 4 ай бұрын

very funny and loop.... always take source from hate Islam and make your own assumption and conclusion... 🤣🤣🤣

@Bible_Condone_3yrGirl_Marriage 4 ай бұрын

QUESTION #2 FOR CHRISTIANS *Why Jesus is God when ‘God himself raised Jesus to life’? (bible Acts 2:32)* .

@leemanwrong 4 ай бұрын

In Galatians it says God the father raised Jesus. In first Peter it says the Holy Spirit raised Jesus. In the gospel of John Jesus says he will raise himself. So clearly all 3 are God.

@monikaflisnik6627 4 ай бұрын

😅 " Zacząć trzeba od tego, że " Święte Pisma " ( z całego świata ) są " wyzwaniem " dla " tak zwanych uczonych w piśmie " 😅 " Nie dla reszty społeczeństwa " 😅 " Układy z Bogiem " 😅 " Bycie Prorokiem " lub " Nauczycielem woli Boga " 😅 " Koran " podobnie jak " Nowy Testament " to wyzwanie dla " Kapłana ", a nie dla " prostego człowieka " ( Podobnie jak przestrzeganie praw Tory, żeby reinkarnować w " niepełnosprawnego " ) " 😅 " Wszyscy Kapłani, Imamowie, Rabini itp już tak " zjebali ", że ciągną za sobą " do Szeolu " ( przez swoje błędne rozumienie tekstu ) niewinnych wiernych " 😅 " Teraz jest czas " rozliczania dusz " 🥳👍 P.S. " Ale nie ma się czym martwić " 😅 " Sąd Ostateczny " to także " Rozliczenie Boga " 😅 " Elohim to liczba mnoga " 🥳👍

@joeasmara844 4 ай бұрын

Are you using Polish? Why not find Polish channels so you can discuss in your own language? 🩵

@monikaflisnik6627 4 ай бұрын

😅 " Ja sobie piszę gdzie chcę " 😅 " Wolność słowa " w internecie " 🥳👍

@mozi4305 4 ай бұрын

Then -- Who is the Muhammad in the Quran ?? Only a Chapter Name Muhammad or a Prophet's Name Muhammad ??? If a Prophet's Name Muhammad Then -- Why In the Quran -- "" Tanween " [ UUUUN , IIIIN , AAAAN ] In English "" a " & " an " Indefinite Noun , Like-- Muhammad"UUUUN , Muhammad"IIIN , Muhammad"AAAAN , Yaahoodiyy"AAAN , Nasaaraaniyy"AAAAN , Muslim"AAAN ,Mh-maaad"UUUN , Mh-Sinai"UUUN , Mh-Sirik"UUUN , Mh-Bashir"UUUN , Mh-Barak"UUUN , Mh-man"UUN ,

@Bible_Condone_3yrGirl_Marriage 4 ай бұрын

QUESTION #1 FOR CHRISTIANS *When Jesus was in his mother’s womb, who was controlling the whole world and universe? Satan?* 😄 .

@MichaelPetek 4 ай бұрын

Perhaps "Mecca" is whichever "makaan" (place) the Kaaba (if portable) is at any one time. The Arabs were nomads, don't forget.

@The_Last_Rick 4 ай бұрын

now you get it.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

Perhaps. But that is NOT what Islam teaches.

@sincebeggining 4 ай бұрын

Did muhammad copy biblical stories: Yes Did jews create fairytales in tanach : Yes

@annemurphy9339 4 ай бұрын

The Tanakh is actual history that the creators of islam heavily borrowed from in writing their quran. Archaeological excavations continually prove the biblical narrative of people, places, and events.

@sincebeggining 4 ай бұрын

@@annemurphy9339show some evidence for jews being enslaved in egypt for 430 years 😂

@TheHistorybear 4 ай бұрын

They also borrowed a lot of Syriac myths, poetry, and songs based on Jesus.

@sincebeggining 4 ай бұрын

@@annemurphy9339zero evidence jews being enslaved for 430 years in egypt

@sincebeggining 4 ай бұрын

@@TheHistorybearand jews borrowed from hamurabi law

@mohammadfaitzansalymn560 3 ай бұрын

Spreading lies won't benefit you anything

@jeangatti9384 Ай бұрын

What about spreading truth ?

@mohammadfaitzansalymn560 Ай бұрын

@@jeangatti9384 what about it where it is

@sincebeggining 4 ай бұрын

Leviticus 25: 44 - 46 This is spirituality??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

Best example of a hornymaniac Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959 It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. ( He can't think of any excuse so muhammad made his allah saved him from his wives by revealing this verse) Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed: "O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse. Here you have to ask yourself. Is allah really a god? Or allah is just muhammad's TOOL to get his desires?

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

OFF TOPIC. Reported.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 , nice shuffle dance, peanut. ALL the verses in the Bible are good, but ALL MUST be read in the CONTEXT of the WHOLE Bible. this is something that you Muslim cherry-pickers NEVER do. That's the problem. Moreover, the Bible is NOT the topic of this video. WHY can't you stone-kissers EVER stick to the subject???? Too afraid to deal with all the BS in Islam that is now getting exposed??? LOL!!!

@TohouBohou 4 ай бұрын

Whats about the « Colonisation »real stories about the « arabomusulmani » ?!? …..

@fouadtannous8944 4 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about all these information, As a Christian I have to show different attitude. James 3:16

@Avenged7Xs 4 ай бұрын

Dont watch then, no one is forcing you or twisting your arm..

@Ordinal_Yoda 4 ай бұрын

Actually we are commanded to be able to give the good answer. 1 Peter 3:15.

@annemurphy9339 4 ай бұрын

The realm of truth is the sole territory of Yehovah God. Truth matters, especially when without it people are being deceived into peril. Every Christian should tell, share, and stand firmly in the truth.

@The_Last_Rick 4 ай бұрын

_We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,_ (2 Corinthians 10:5)

@The_Last_Rick 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 Are you sure that you are not talking about the Quran? For example, who was the first Muslim - Adam Quran 3:37, Abraham 3:67, Muhammad 6:14 and 6:163 Moses 7:143, or magicians of Pharaoh 26:51. Are these the words of an eternal God or the thoughts of men?

@ronnawoodhouse2212 4 ай бұрын

We are the Indigenous People of Turtle 🐢 Island 🏝️ America. We are the Ute the only Tribe considered to be Indigenous to the State of Colorado. We have been here since the Beginning! Mesopotamia means a city 🏙️ located between two rivers. Of Four Rivers between two of them is a North Bound Running 🏃‍♀️ River. That being the definition Mesopotamia then there are 3 more you must consider when trying to find the location of the Ancient One. Aschaffenburg Germany 🇩🇪 is the Mesopotamia of Europe and there are 2 on Turtle 🐢 Island 🏝️. Quebec Canada and Denver Colorado! Before there was Religion there was Islam ☪️! Your Jesus their Isa their Yesuha will become Mohammed and will have 124,000 Lifetimes being a Prophet!

@exceptoQ-all 4 ай бұрын

...when you find alquran is the right way after you learn it, alquran says you are a good lucky one, or else, fasiq...so, just believe what they said, or you will know who you really are...

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

LOL!!! The Qur'an is a CESSPOOL of errors, evils, contradictions, absurdities, plagiarized materials, and general incoherence. Whoever wrote that asinine little book was simply less intelligent than toothpaste. If you claim that God wrote it, you are calling God an idiot. That's blasphemy. In short, the Qur'an can only teach you the "right" way to be stupid and lost.

@almazchati4178 4 ай бұрын

I hate raining on your parade, but there are more important issues you need to address, like 3 Magi bringing gifts to baby Jesus. Can you explain why YHWH gave the good news to 3 Zoroastrian priests but not to John the baptist? He could have spared some time for Jesus, more worthy than cleaning up dirty people in dirty waters. Who was this God, someone other than YHWHH? Who was the real God who fathered Jesus? Zoroastrian priests must have received the news from their God. The priests are guided to Bethlehem by a moving star which must be provided to them by the father of Jesus. Were there some camels to carry the gifts? Some camels and their caretakers, did they turn into something Holy? They must be ordained by the Father? Was the moving star visible during the day? If it is a star, it should turn off during the day, right? Did it stop moving then? It must be sleeping along with the Magi, the camels and caretakers during the day, in some hard to find place lest the bandits rob them and take away all the gifts from the father. There must be a throne among the gifts for the future king, do you agree? A king without a throne just eats dust. The Magi make it to Bethlehem, the star takes them to his crib, and they unload all the gifts. Then, something strange happens, the Magi visits Herod the despot, and tells him that Jesus is the king and he will kill him. In the meantime, the star chirps over the head of Joseph and Mary, and tells them time to move, Jesus and family and the camels and caretakers and the star escape to Egypt. Joseph is now 95 years old, Mary is 12. One of the camels is turned into a talking donkey to provide a comfortable journey for Joseph and to keep him awake. The donkey starts singing lullabies for Jesus as soon as they get out of the village. It looks to me there was a paternity dispute between the Gods of Magi and the God of Bethlehem or wherever Herod was residing. There is a fight going on between them. What do you say? No is not an answer. Was Jesus son of YHWH the first, or YHWHH the second, the unspeakable? Or, was he Ahura Mazda, or Aka Manah, or Aeshma or Ahurani or Anahita. Or the Zoroastian Mithra,the creator of the Word, the Spirit, and the Gods of Genesis as the Aramaic speakers of the Church of Yesus/Zeus believed? My inclination is towards Magi Gods, there are too many of them, they should be able to overpower everything else. Besides, some followers of Yesus/Zeus has voted for Magi Gods. You know that the real fighter is Jesus. You are already saved. There is nothing more you will gain. When Jesus returns, all dead people will gather around him, except people like Herod. They will acknowledge him as the king, there is no fear of bad people like Herod, as they will be still dead. However, we still need to know who his father was.You don't want to say Mithra as some people believe, wrong answers may result in sitting on Herod's throne covered with millions of nails. You should be allowed at least to sit on your confortable chairs. You don't want to mess up with that.

@gaviriak 4 ай бұрын

The Bible doesn't say they were Zoroastrians or they came in Camels 🤣 But Jesus is the King of all Kings and Lord of all Lords that's why the Easterns saw the symbol on the sky. Jesus is an Universal God not an arabic weak god as allah that's why Jesus Lord hear our prayers in every single language he is really almighty ☦️❤️

@almazchati4178 4 ай бұрын

@@gaviriak Magis are Zoroastrian priests. Jesus was killed by a Roman governor. He can not claim to be a king. That is your imagination, and wishful thinking. He did not violate any Roman law. You use 'king' claim to justify his crucifixion. It is bogus. It is not also possible to accuse or imply Roman Governors and emporors of wrong doing, as Gospels claim. The authors would be killed and their work burned.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

YAWN. OFF TOPIC. if you want to discuss the Magi, GO TO A CHANNEL dealing with that. This channel is devoted to EXPOSING the LIES of Islam, which is far more important than why the Magi were Zoroastrians (you assume).

@almazchati4178 4 ай бұрын

@@mysotiras21 No, this channel claims they don't lie. I am bringing up your lies. Whatever you say about anything else are all lies. You need to pass the truth test first.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

@@almazchati4178 , LOL!! Nice way to move the goal posts, peanut. You jump from the Magi to accusing Jay and Al Fadi of lying. SHOW ME where these men lied. Give the time stamps, plus PROOF that they are lying. BTW, NO Muslims should EVER whine about other people lying. Allah BRAGS about being the best of deceivers in the Qur'an. Shariah law says that Muslims MUST lie in certain situations. By contrast, Christians are FORBIDDEN t lie.

@macdmacd7896 4 ай бұрын

boomers are funny when they ran out of mony

@Yhwhim 4 ай бұрын

is this a parody?

@gubbibalaji5252 4 ай бұрын

U both only discuss Islam & Christianity. There are far more evolved & scientific practices like sanathan Dharma but u ignore

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

What’re you even saying mate? 😂 haha

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

So what? It’s what they specialise in. It’s for the sake of the Muslim mate

@Aviyel 4 ай бұрын

Wrong channel mate! View something else.

@dj90-d8q 4 ай бұрын

Sorry this channel is only for Christianity vs islam for conclusiveness between the two religions

@sheikhboyardee556 4 ай бұрын

Sure. Take your meds.

@AbdulHafeez-cq6oo 4 ай бұрын

you are doing crime

@rohanimagansang3324 4 ай бұрын

What crime,for expoising you false cult😂

@MU-we8hz 4 ай бұрын

For exposing false prophet mohamed?

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

Thank God we live in the civilised World

@YosafatNugraha 4 ай бұрын

The crime here is that your imam lying to you and hide from you the truth.

@scrunchy7528 4 ай бұрын

According to you... Words, thinking and talking are crimes... Interesting stuff

@fouadtannous8944 4 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about this information, As a Christian I have to show different attitude. James 3:13

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

What? 😂 stop exposing yourself 🤦🏽‍♂️

@lesblase3667 4 ай бұрын

What kind of Christian are you? 😂 I’m willing to bet that you’re not with that comment. What in the world… anyone with a brain would care

@The_Last_Rick 4 ай бұрын

2 Corinthians 10:5

@The_Last_Rick 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 Paul is *not* God or even another god, he is just a man, an apostle of Jesus. But what about your Quran? Who does the Quran say was the first Muslim - Adam Quran 3:37, Abraham 3:67, Muhammad 6:14 and 6:163 Moses 7:143, or magicians of Pharaoh 26:51. Are these the words of an eternal God or the thoughts of mere men?

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

LIAR!!! If you don't care about TRUTH, you are no Christian!

@danydandany2640 4 ай бұрын

What a waste of time 😅😅

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

That is Islam in a nutshell.

@craig221 4 ай бұрын

Al fadi always ready for a pic nic

@mukegilemantepcoy7899 4 ай бұрын

Jesus not god, you understand DR, jay

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

Jesus is God Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the First and the LAST. Surah (57:3) He is the First and the Last, and the Manifest and the Hidden,3 and He has knowledge of everything. 3. That is, when there was nothing, He was, and when there will be nothing, He will be.

@mysotiras21 4 ай бұрын

PROVE IT, using ONLY the Bible.

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 Jesus is the true God. Believe it or not.

@ChaddyRock 4 ай бұрын

@@defenderoftruth3212 can you answer my last question to you? WHERE DO PDFILES GO? heaven or hell?

@sandy11711 4 ай бұрын

@@ChaddyRock he never said he is god the son of god which part u don’t understand and is Muslim the first word he said is Allah speak his language u will understand.

@sura2proyect428 4 ай бұрын

Quran was written by a commision a group of sabean and gnostics and heretics christians that agree to do it to assist mohammad who was in a mission somewhere south of jordan before petra.