IT'S TIME TO CLEAR THE AIR on Ford's 1.5 Dragon Ecoboost I3, This Week on jmcGarage Talk!!

[@douglasamaya8666]

Ford tech here. Been having Broncos come in with those 1.5L engines for water pumps. They go out around 20-30k miles due to coolant contamination straight from the factory. Also have one that’s leaking coolant from the turbo where it connects to the catalytic converter. Never seen that before. Most new ford engines aren’t that reliable anymore. Been doing long blocks on new models.

[@Andrew-n1v]

Sad!

[@AO-mx9tk]

Thank you for this. My wife has a '22 escape with this engine. Great info.

[@Andrew-n1v]

It's an incredible engine sir

[@tonychavez2083]

Good info. I’m driving a rental bronco sport with 1.5L 3 I gotta say it has decent torque and power on boost and I honestly thought it was the big 2.3L turbo mustang four until I looked. It’s a brilliant little motor that runs on 2 cylinders when cruising under light throttle!

[@davidtinkle3872]

Thank you for the information! And I agree… so much misinformation on you tube!

[@jamessowards3822]

I own a Bronco Sport with the 1.5 Dragon and have already had this recall done. It took less than one hour to complete. From what I understand there were a few high pressure injectors that had developed a leak from a crack. The number is very small. The recall adds a drain tube that directs any fuel down to the ground. It also reprograms the computer to detect fuel pressure changes from a cracked injector and turn off that system and give a warning message. After 30,000 miles my Bronco Sport is averaging almost 30 MPG with good performance. It has been a very good engine choice so far.

[@ofcbob6391]

Glad you posted James, as I am planning on buying a used 2020 Escape with this Dragon engine (I like dual-injection to keep the valves clean) but I was worried that I would have to wait until I had a crack in order to use this new replacement deal. Now you're saying they install the drain line AND they have something in place to notify you on the dash that you've developed a crack and now you can go in and have all 3 direct injectors replaced, is that correct?

[@jamessowards3822]

@@ofcbob6391 yes.

[@jamessowards3822]

@@ofcbob6391 mostly correct. The computer detects a fuel pressure change from a crack and it does go into a different mode. It does warn you if it were to happen.

[@jamessowards3822]

@@ofcbob6391 I just checked, it was only the 2022 Escape 1.5 engine that had the issue. Your 2020 would be fine as is.

[@familydad3241]

So what's the vehicle you have on order or did I miss the video on it?

[@thejmcGarage]

Have not revealed it yet but I am reviewing a bunch of 3 row suvs leading up to the big reveal!

[@familydad3241]

I see the thin blue line gang flag. You have some explaining to do..

[@thejmcGarage]

Lol, I do support our boys in blue

[@Mountainbaseddweller]

What is there to explain?

[@familydad3241]

@@Mountainbaseddweller That he supports or part of there thin line gang. You realize the general public hates the flag right?

[@familydad3241]

@@Mountainbaseddweller support the blue til it happens to you

[@ofcbob6391]

@@familydad3241 just be law-abiding and no worries.

[@Indiana_Golden]

Tears of the Dragon

[@rcpsammy7186]

Yeah well, wet belts in these engines failing at an astonishing rate, blowing engines, and it's all on the customers' shoulders. Forget the hose, these engines are designed to fail. And the average price to change these belts, if you're lucky to not lose an engine first? Roughly $3000+...and this is "preventative maintenance".

[@thejmcGarage]

The 1.5 Ecoboost dragon engine has a timing chain, not a timing belt.

[@JayRides-ul9uf]

Ford learned their lesson with the 1.0 wet belt and ditched it for the 1.5 dragon.

[@joegf1739]

@@thejmcGarage The oil pump uses a belt, though, and it sits in oil.

[@thejmcGarage]

@joegf1739 much smaller belt that other manufacturers are doing the same and have proven can last upwards of 200k miles or more

[@pepeshopping]

Matters not. Shoddy quality. Disrespect for the buyer/customer. Who has the time for all those recalls? “They did great. Gave me a loaner”. Did they also pay for your time and suffering? “One time replacement”, guess they “fixed” 100% of the faulty parts? I bet not. What happens if they leak after the “one time” deal? Is it customary to have to prove to the dealer that you deserve better service/warranty/parts? Truth? Truth is that Ford is not what they used to be. Mistakes happen? Yes. Some brands have zero, some 1, 2, how many are you on so far?

[@kevin122759]

You are right. If I pay $40 grand for a new Maverick, it better not break. I have had my 2014 Chevy Silverado LTZ for 10 yrs. Nothing has gone wrong with it. That is what I expect from all vehicles.

[@thejmcGarage]

Don't expect perfection in anything made by man! It's how you are taken care of after the sale that matters

[@jamessowards3822]

I had the recall done and it took less than one hour. You are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. There are very few bad injectors, a supplier defect, that were ever found but they are doing this recall and extended warranty coverage to protect all owners.

[@GCASS1143]

@@kevin122759 LOL are you telling the truth??? I don't think you are. one of my working colleges is now driving a 2015 Explorer because his 1500 from 2014 had spark pug issues in 2018-2021, it lost three different ones for three different reasons, had other problems, this year he lost his cam and valve train 110K miles... (I have an Expedition with 317K and still runs), after having the valve train replaced he was stranded on the side of the road smoking with injector issues... So you are lucky.

[@kevin122759]

@@GCASS1143 Drive what you are happy with. The 5.4 Ford V8 is by far the worst motor ever put in a pickup. That is a fact.