It was unrealistic for MJ, Pippen & Bulls to continue dynasty past 98' - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED

At the end of 'The Last Dance', Michael Jordan stated that he believed Scottie Pippen would've stayed another year in Chicago if head coach Phil Jackson remained as well. Hear why Shannon Sharpe believes that it was unrealistic for Scottie Pippen to stay with a large deal waiting from Houston.
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It was unrealistic for MJ, Pippen & Bulls to continue dynasty past 98' - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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[@TheFacilityonFS1]

What are your thoughts on the Michael Jordan & Scottie Pippen duo?

[@TrueProphit]

Scottie is 21 best ever for a reason

[@VSmoothTwentyTwo]

my fav duo of all time. But Shannon is right it was unrealistic for them to come back and i believe part of the reason for MJ leaving is not only Phil leaving but Pippen wasnt getting a fair shake and MJ knew Pip would take that other offer , and MJ wouldnt run it back without Pip and Phil .

[@meg-k-waldren]

Shannon got this one. Gotta give it up.

[@arieslove6144]

The Jordan 'Pippen duo 2me are Batman And Batman . The 1989 Michael Keaton ' and Christian Bale.

[@whyisgamora5435]

Goats

[@jonnyarnett]

Not impossible if Jerry Reinsdorf just fired Jerry Krause. That seems crazy considering how good Krause was at being a GM, but what GM is worth alienating Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Phil Jackson, and free agents around the league? No GM is worth that if you ask me

[@Udon_Noodle]

Uh.....dude the chances of them winning another chip was so slim to nonexistent after 98. I understand the Phil part but the amount of money you'd waste on a short term deal makes it better to just move on. Youd litterally have to pay everyone competitive prices to keep the team together

[@jonnyarnett]

Chris xO I get you bro, but they just won three straight championships! Lol. How many times have we heard a GM/owner say they’re not worth the money, AFTER they just won championships. Blows my mind.

[@jonnyarnett]

Chris xO Also consider that the East was very weak for years after 98. The 8th seeded Knicks made it to the Finals in 99. Even if we don’t think the Bulls would have beat the best West teams, they still very likely would have had a shot, considering how they would have likely got through the east

[@feroce82]

@@jonnyarnett your channel is great, keep up with the good work bro👍🏾

[@chrissams6230]

Jonny Arnett -NBA KZbinr FACTS and they ain’t really bounce back since 98

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

For the Role Scottie played as Robin he never got paid like it

[@agmadeferit8297]

Robin never had his own film. Always supporting role

[@louisstrong9405]

AGmadeferit Scottie has a starring role when Jordan retired. Scottie took Bulls to the playoffs, became an all star and won all star mvp for godsake

[@evanodum563]

When a bunch of kids learn something everyone knew in the 90s

[@xo0p2000]

Pippen signed a long term deal for cheap because he was afraid of getting hurt and not getting any money. Jordan even called him foolish for signing that deal. So if there's anyone to blame it's Pippen himself.

[@louisstrong9405]

dean slee he eventually got paid so blaming really isn’t necessary. Nobody is really biting to sign long term deals these days anyway

[@williammccormick2802]

22 years later: I would much rather have seen the 90's Bulls run end on the court rather than in an office.

[@CLEMSONtiger300]

14:37 skip Michael did not say that at all. Michael said everyone would have came back on a 1 year deal except for Scottie, Scottie would of needed some serious convincing..

[@bryant888]

Go tigers bruh

[@MoetChandonHollywoodlifestyles]

"They can't beat us till we quit" - Michael Jordan🐐

[@keithvinet8049]

Jordan QUIT!!! not the G.O.A.T

[@fredrickjohnson7711]

@@keithvinet8049 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@michaeladderley5180]

They were 1-5 vs Hakeem Vernon Maxwell and Houston Rockets...sit yo Bytchass down with that Halloween shyt....no one told MJ to retire...no one told MJ to quit....shows a pattern of behaviour...and that's your hero....dizzy...

[@AlphaDesperateForFunds]

@@michaeladderley5180 why you so hostile lmao

[@michaeladderley5180]

@@AlphaDesperateForFunds nobody is talking about feelings...but MJ gets it...you nuts say its psycho....killer instant....where was that shyt when he went 1-5 vs Vernon Maxwell, Hakeem, and the Rockets....during that first 3peat....

[@KevinThomas2014]

Just get Scottie on the show and ask him. Simple.

[@jp3813]

Scottie has a different perspective now.

[@xPrymeTimex]

Skip gotta stop this, man! All you gotta do is go listen to the post game interview from Scottie after the 6th ring. The first thing he said was "There's a lot of other opportunities on the table for me" he was not coming back for a 1 year dead. and he knew the front office wouldn't pay him what he deserved!

[@omacktube]

They were all aware of it being over way b4 game 6.

[@ROCKY8410]

Scottie has also said in recent years he would have come back under certain conditions

[@xPrymeTimex]

@@ROCKY8410 Yea his conditions would have been more than a 1 year deal. He was looking to get paid. They would never have paid him outside of the sign and trade they gave him.

[@klashnekov86]

No way that team was coming back just because Jordan gave the green light, too many bridges were burnt between the players/Phil Jackson and the GM

[@mrb6001]

bingo, an entire year of toxic enviroment

[@johngittings4673]

See and that’s the thing MJ didn’t really want to talk about in the documentary. Listening to him, you would think they were a tight knit group when in reality, they were very dysfunctional and many of them had little to no relationship off the court. Yes, Phil Jackson had a way of making the most misfit personalities somehow mesh on the court to create dynasties but eventually these guys simply can’t be around each other anymore. The Kobe-Shaq Lakers had to break up because things got too heated between those two. It was well documented that MJ’s teammates didn’t really like him. Sure, the Bulls could have given it one more shot in 99, but I don’t think they would have won a seventh championship, even in the shortened season.

[@ahmadabdullah6415]

The 98-99 season was only 50 games so that would have undoubtedly favored that Bulls Team. We can speculate all day but as long as they still had MJ there was always a chance they could have won 1 or 2 more titles

[@Matt-cr4vv]

People always say the shortened season would’ve benefitted them, which is possible, but one thing people always factor out is that while there were less games they squeezed those games into a slightly shorter time frame. In 97-98 if a team win the finals and had to play the full games in every playoff series they’d have played a game on an average of every 2.1 days. If the same applies the next year it shortens their average play to 1.85. So was it less games? Sure. But it also required shorter turnarounds during that time frame with less rest during the season. And they did have an older on average team. I can get the way the Bulls probably saw things because they had just lost Scottie half a season with his injury because of choosing the surgery when he did. And Rodman had been missing a decent chunk of games each year in Chicago and he was old. And clearly his personality was an issue. If they wanted to keep Longley he’d had injury issues. But the next season Pippen played every game so he wasn’t an issue. Harper missed 15, Longley missed 11, Kukoc missed 6. So I don’t think the team would’ve been too injured or anything that year. Rodman only played 23 of 27 possible but that was personality stuff over his health. So that would’ve been a risk on could Phil and MJ keep him check again because clearly his behavior is what killed the next two years that he played. So I think maybe one year they could’ve pulled it off but I don’t think they’d have gotten multiple more.

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Skip reminds us about covering the bulls in 1998 everyday but why wasnt he in the doc?

[@realliving4354]

Probably because it was an ESPN documentary not Fox

[@MrGenexxx]

I saw him. Can't remember which episode. He was far in the background.

[@keynondemmings8160]

Good point... Hearing him brag everyday about covering the Bulls is getting real old

[@Hakeem990]

It's alleged skip was asking for $two million to have his image featured in documentary

[@ROCKY8410]

a ibrahim that is not true

[@victorallencook7107]

I'm sure I can speak for the Bulls fans during the 90's and we wanted to see that attempt at a 4-peat.

[@edgarcamacho9567]

Thomas Sankara Agree 100% The Spurs coached by Pop weren’t the kind to put too much emphasis on your past. They weren’t gonna buy into the hype. They just go out there and get high percentage shots.

[@edgarcamacho9567]

Thomas Sankara Not to mention Spurs with Bruce Bowen. He was a pest of defense that to this day doesn’t get enough credit. He would have cause MJ to have atleast 2 bad games and that would be the difference in winning a series against the Bulls.

[@victorallencook7107]

@@edgarcamacho9567 LOL .....😂 Not!!

[@WhatsBiggin]

Lakers would have destroyed them.

[@WhatsBiggin]

@RMC 824 Lakers won 99-01...

[@bountyhunterlee]

How's Shannon loud when my volume's on 4?? 😂😂😂

[@Billontae1977]

Skip continues to say "I know because I was there" Was never mentioned at all

[@kobeplayeddefensetoo1351]

Funny thing I thought I would see him somewhere in the doc. Asking questions or holding up a tape recorder or something.

[@Billontae1977]

@@kobeplayeddefensetoo1351 I know right. Not a single clip from him but he acts like he was right there

[@kobeplayeddefensetoo1351]

@@Billontae1977 I'll like to see tape or video of him close to MJ during that time. They had so much footage and for us not to see him in the Doc is crazy. Man we saw 100s of reporters etc in the doc.

[@Billontae1977]

@@kobeplayeddefensetoo1351 I know man. Not a single person to vouch for him. He's a fraud

[@kobeplayeddefensetoo1351]

@@Billontae1977 You think so? Lol! I believe he was there I guess.

[@macp2657]

nobody: skip:I WAS THERE

[@keynondemmings8160]

Lmao

[@anthonys9892]

But not at the Docuseries!

[@mikemeez1965]

😂😂 always sayin that mess

[@FartBart14]

i mean he was haha

[@stephcurry9524]

@@FartBart14 who saw him??

[@blackurustrikes2328]

Skip is naive or lying. Krause did Reinsdorf's bidding. Reinsdorf and his co-owners were cashing out and, at that point, another championship was not as valuable to them as the extra $50 - $100 million it would have taken to keep the team together.

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

Exactly. Plus Jerry reinsdorf even said back then that he would have trade all six of the bulls championships if it would mean one world series ring for his white Sox team so that should tell you right there as little he valued the bulls dynasty. I hate to say it but the bulls are never going to win another title. Not as long a reinsdorf still owns the team. Book it.

[@TheBmills415]

There Jews and it's all about profit with them their legacy is profit.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

Yes it was all about money. Reinsdorf chose to give up the chance at another title to avoid paying the big sum it would have taken to bring everyone back. This after all the money Jordan and the dynasty made him.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

@@thewolfofwallstreet627 True, Reinsdorf didn't deserve the Bulls dynasty.

[@AJ_Osser]

Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen can’t do it at 33/35 but Manu and Tim Duncan can at 37/38. No sense...just hate and envy

[@TalkinnGrubbinMedia]

There wasn't load management back then MJ and Scottie were at least playing 80 games if not the whole 82 while Pop rested Duncan and Ginobli for some games.

[@wheeloffortune3343]

@@TalkinnGrubbinMedia But it was only a 50 game season in 1999.

[@TalkinnGrubbinMedia]

@@wheeloffortune3343 Still when you've gone to 3 straight NBA Finals, it takes a lot out of you. Look at the Lakers after they went to those 3 Finals in a row, they were fatigued.

[@Tormund_BeyondTheWall]

@@TalkinnGrubbinMedia and look at the toll it took on GS last year.

[@wheeloffortune3343]

@@TalkinnGrubbinMedia But they was playing like 74 or more games.

[@48162342]

Welcome to MJ vs LeBron, Brady vs age, Cowboys vs the world undisputed

[@noonenewagain]

But hes still right

[@immaBAWS27]

Bruh there’s nothing else relevant to talk about suck it up

[@48162342]

@@immaBAWS27 duck my sick

[@bryant888]

@@48162342 😂😂😂

[@andretheprince]

Shannon is 100% correct.

[@ricbradley5323]

He's normally correct

[@ErickMartinez-nc5jz]

To Some Extend But Skip Is Right That Phil Broke Up This Team Before It Should Have Broken Up, & Those Guys Would Have Came Back Even Without Phil, Jordan Was The Real Coach Phil Is Like A Steve Kerr With The Warriors, The Players Do All The Work,

[@centrallifestyle3650]

Andre mccorkle Shannon is 100% wrong on this one. Who says you gotta sign all those guys on 1 year deals? Give Scottie, Longley, and Kerr 5 year deals. If Bulls don’t win, trade them, any draft pick is better than losing them for free. MJ, Rodman, Harper were okay with 1 year deals. Take the tax hit, let them have another run. Bulls were making money - tickets, merch etc. Reinsdorf was a cheapskate team owner and never deserved a player like MJ. If Krause (RIP) was still alive, he’d probably confess he acted under Reinsdorf’s orders.

[@agmadeferit8297]

In your opinion

[@agmadeferit8297]

@@ricbradley5323 usually always yeah? 😂

[@evanodum563]

I watched it and Im tired of hearing about this, Lebron, and Daks contract disputes every single day. Great documentary. Same arguments by both parties on the same topics for 2 months now.

[@kingcarnegie]

LOl u just noticing this. It's more like same topics since the Super Bowl

[@trapmuzik6708]

What u suggest they talk about

[@MrBeatboxmasta]

"That's what he believes, and I believe him." MJ could have told Skip that the Earth is flat and Skip would believe him.

[@slove8181973]

Yea Skip as educated as he is, let's his "fandom" determine his faith...if Michael Jordan and the Dallas Cowboys told Skip that it's snowing in July, Skip would have coats, boots and hats ready

[@akashikaze5705]

If lebron told shannon to poop in his pant he would

[@slove8181973]

akashi kaze 😂 That’s also true

[@PutoAldas]

Skip "I was there in 98" Bayless

[@sbandy1278]

Good point about Jordan not knowing Reinsdorf offered Phil the opportunity to come back, but Scottie would have cost 20 mil for 1 year. Rodman was checked out, Kerr and Longley both got overpaid. MJ could have come back, but he admitted he wasn't going to rebuild. There was no choice but to change at least 50% of the team.

[@haisibanaag1563]

I don't see Pippen signing a one year deal after being underpaid all this years. Phil really blew it all up. He was really a shrewd operator. That is why I think less of him as a coach since he had the best players to play with.

[@ronsmac]

Skip is delusional. There’s no way scottie signs a one year deal and Reinsdorf was going to low ball everyone else except Jordan and he was probably tired of paying him 35 million.

[@nbastalgiacritic1751]

Skip is delusional? You finally figured that out?

[@Trance18]

you do know that MJ got paid 30 M only in that last season , If Phil stayed everything would have worked

[@TheWholeWorld1]

Shannon is 1000% right about this one! There was NO WAY Scottie Pippen was staying in Chicago after the 97/98 season. Neither was Luke Longley nor Kerr. After that season these guys wanted to get PAID! Sure you could’ve brought more guys in around Jordan but without Pip, it wasn’t happening. Indiana would’ve beat them in the playoffs.

[@JohnKhinda]

If Jordan wanted to come back and play in 1999, he should have! No whining about what Phil or Scottie did or what management decided to do! That was his choice. All through the documentary and all we hear from Skip is about how alpha MJ was. Ok, then be your own man and come back if you want to! Don't retire because Phil wants a break and Scottie wanted to get paid. He should have just returned to the Bulls with a different coach or find another team. Him crying about it 20 years later at the end of The Last Dance was so un-Michael Jordan-ish.

[@pomerlain8924]

MJ wanted to come back with a chance to play for a 4-peat. Not play on a rebuilding team with a new coach like Tim Floyd. He stated after winning in 97 that he would only play for Phil Jackson. In 1999, if he had come back, it would have basically been like playing in his early seasons again, with no help and him having to carry the team. Only this time, he'd be 36 instead 23.

[@yungslic5363]

@@pomerlain8924 why didn't he have that mentality in 1994 instead of retiring and your argument proves why Scottie and Phil wanted to leave because they got tired of Jordan fans downplaying their contributions to the team. Making it out to be all of Jordan's doings as to why the Bulls were so successful. Scottie once said it best "all they will remember is Michael winning championships" so he went to Houston and Phil went to LA and got to 7 more finals and won 5 more rings without Jordan. Proving that his triangle offense worked regardless where he coached

[@carloszepeda8960]

@@yungslic5363you forget Phil had shaq and Kobe 😂

[@carloszepeda8960]

@@yungslic5363pippen never won anything or was not even an Allstar after not playing with Jordan

[@ConcernedCitizen5514]

There's no way they could have brought back the same Bulls team in 1999 - Shannon Sharpe is totally correct. It was far too expensive and that is what everyone said at the time, so it is absurd to now, 22 years later, claim that the team would have re-signed for one-year deals in 1999

[@youngblood4127]

You’ve never Coached or been a GM or did payroll a day in your life. You don’t know how to do math or finances so you know nothing. And I have masters degree in economics so I know money. You don’t.

[@martinbrankov8504]

Hmm Shannon was right this time! Skip lost this round...

[@fairplayterrific147]

This Time? 😄 Shannon More Times Than None Always Gets The Best Of Skip Bias!

[@bryant888]

@@fairplayterrific147 factss

[@victorallencook7107]

It was a sad moment in sports history . I couldn't believe the team of a second 3 - peat had been dismantled .

[@WydRy]

shannon might be the biggest mj hater ever

[@kuhfusskatsadventures]

I don’t think he’s an MJ hater, he’s just an ultra LeBron stan

[@metalhammerm6903]

Don't put the blame on Phil Jackson. Any coach would have taken the opportunity to coach Shaq and Kobe in that time. He shouldn't have to put up with the problems Jerry Krause always made for him. Phil Jackson three peated THREE TIMES. Phil Jackson has a legacy to fight for too

[@sportspsp]

Phil coached Dennis, Skip. Phil knew exactly how to coach Dennis.

[@WhathehadasSole]

He didn’t last when he brought him to LA though 🤷🏾‍♂️. Came to practice one day with no shoes and got sent home

[@Slipknot5301]

WhathehadasSole Dennis came to LA in 1999 when del Harris was coach. Get a clue 😂

[@sportspsp]

@Vick Four Chuck Daly coached him when he was in Detroit. He was a father figure to Dennis. I'm just talking about Dennis' time in Chicago.

[@sportspsp]

@Vick Four Rodman revered Daly.

[@julianyniguez9626]

Pippen was getting old, with back injury and getting offered 80 mil from Houston. Dennis was done, and the Michael didn’t have enough trust or time to build a new roster around new role players since it would’ve been tough to bring the whole 98 squad back .

[@Ninjersey1]

They still would’ve beat the spurs if you know you know,every jordan hater was happy he was gone believe that and it was a strike season.MJ would’ve been fresh for the finals he played 82 games at 40 yrs old

[@JJuiicceee]

Mike Diaz Fitness They were not going to beat the spurs

[@Ninjersey1]

J Juice yes they would’ve lol spurs beat a Knicks team with no Ewing lol get real kid

[@JJuiicceee]

Mike Diaz Fitness Tim Duncan and David Robinson would’ve had the paint on lockdown and everyone on the bulls team was old

[@Hakeem990]

@@JJuiicceee Rodman would have controlled Duncan

[@MrBeatboxmasta]

Skip: "Players would have lined up to play with MJ." Wait. I thought old school players refused to play on the same team as their foes. Haters of the new school (including retired players) say it had nothing to do with the fact that players having next to no power to dictate where they go. They say it had everything to do with their competitive spirit. So according to the old school lovers, NOBODY would have lined up to play with MJ.

[@feroce82]

Skip is talking out of his a$$ on this one. Whoever played against Jordan wanted to beat him, but they don't built superteams to achieve that.

[@Ry-ss5dz]

Skip got destroyed in this debate. He went into it assuming rings are the number 1 priority on everyone's list. You can tell when Shannon brings up the almighty dollar Skip is like "Oh... 🤦‍♂️". And ya, back in those days players wanted to beat Jordan, not join him.

[@MrBeatboxmasta]

@1- 20 - 7 LG Does everything seriously have to be spoofed to you? He obviously wasn't talking about bench players or even fringe starters. Rodman and Pippen played at HOF levels while in CHI and you think MJ would have been happy if they had been replaced with non-superstars. SMH. You must be a troll because there is no viable explanation for your comment.

[@joshuawashingtons42]

1- 20 - 7 LG lmao naw dog he just cooked u, ain’t nobody stupid enough (except u probably) to think skip meant your average dude, if he did then his statement would b irrelevant cause of course there was guys coming into the nba, probably on their way out, or on losing teams that would’ve loved 2 b on the Bulls rather than their current situation. We all know skip meant superstars

[@joshuawashingtons42]

1- 20 - 7 LG the only one goofy is the one who believes everything coming out of skips mouth

[@PGtalksBall]

Y’all gotta go and use all 2 hours to settle the debate. That would be fun

[@rhs1578]

He got to the point to where they’d have practice and Dennis Rodman will be out there wrastlin Hulk Hogan😂

[@christiandelapena8623]

Shannon is right. It's the mental, emotional and physical drain brought about by the 6 seasons of grueling Finals, ECFs and long seasons made it impractical for this Bulls duo to continue past '98.

[@acesantana1879]

Mj must have stole shannons girl or something.

[@lastofthestarmakers3660]

No Shannon has a point on this though. Scottie was breaking down and he wasn’t that wingman as much as he was during the earlier years. MJ wasn’t Superman anymore and he pretty much carried that 98’ team to that championship. If the Bulls wanted to win more they needed better players to help MJ and Scottie.

[@whayes8084]

Ninjaveli if you believe that you a goofy

[@feroce82]

@@lastofthestarmakers3660 facts 100%. Phil Jackson sniffed the end of an era. MJ was still the best in the business, but a bit tired for all the circus around him. Pippen was DONE,he wouldn't be able to stop the upcoming SG/SF with that injured back, Kobe already torched him. Rodman? Dennis was hard to control all the time, we saw that, it was an exhausting task. Meanwhile he had the possibility to coach a younger and potentially stronger duo in the glamorous city in the country were you don't have to beg players to join your team. That's the only point Skip nailed right, but when they talked about money Unc Shay won the debate.

[@JJuiicceee]

How many times are people gonna reuse this comment

[@EXTRAORDINARYz]

When you're the 🐐 many will find reasons to dislike you.. MJ knows that the haters are out there

[@tamzz9471]

@Joe Biden is a Senile, Corrupt Pervert stopi it.

[@EXTRAORDINARYz]

@So Cool1 LOL LeBron is great there's no doubt about that, but being better than Jordan is your opinion.. The fact is MJ is the 🐐 now keep buying his J's like you do puppet 😂

[@mr.r1622]

@Joe Biden is a Senile, Corrupt Pervert And you're a white on white hater hating on Joe Biden 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Hakeem990]

@Joe Biden is a Senile, Corrupt Pervert Sad but true Shannon let's himself down

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Nobody: Skip:Phil Jackson broke up the bulls dynasty

[@chrissams6230]

Right

[@godofthisshit]

He’s partially right.

[@brianchua4240]

I mean, if you are getting bullied by your boss, you do get tired of being picked on

[@Rubrick23.]

No, he wasn't going to be involved with a place that treated him like a plague.

[@Ape_In_His_Apex]

😂

[@chriscash360]

When talking about MJ it’s like ppl throw logic out the window

[@Tormund_BeyondTheWall]

Exactly.

[@lloyd5863]

Not people - Skip Bayless

[@ike.o6944]

Chris Cash Exactly. Facts💯

[@redrum154]

Bulls could have given Pip that long term contract, won the 7th chip on a shortnened lockout year, then get traded for a better return than that trash s & t they did with the Rockets. Phil definitely had his eyes on LA so there would only be 1 more possible ring in 99. But I agree with Skip it was Phil's "last dance". front office drama aside PJAX wanted a little break before taking the Laker job.

[@FernandoMartinez-om2nj]

Why does Skip always make scnearios full of what-if's based on the idea that every pro athlete plays its sport for the pure joy of it?

[@dantehall9554]

The Bulls was done after 1998

[@marioq8395]

If Phil and MJ come back the Bulls would have brought back Rodman for one more year. Pippen wouldn't come back though. He was about getting the max deal he had waited so long for. The bulls would not have done that for one year. MJ was making $30 million plus on those one year deals which was so much more than any other player. Pippen would not have given up that max deal and risked injury for a 7th ring. Not a chance.

[@raywilliams926]

Jordan left,, not because he was loyal to Phil Jackson, but because he didnt want another coach restricting him from shooting so much...

[@trueempire8948]

It was unfortunate we didn’t get to see this Bulls team continue into the early 2000s against teams like Lakers, Shaq and Kobe and Spurs Duncan and Robinson. But it didn’t happen so really no need to debate this can’t change the pass!!

[@ashwar3639]

Everything in the Last Dance was already known and published in the book "Blood on the Horns" way back when. Reinsdorf offering Phil Jackson to come back for 1 more year, and Phil turning it down is all documented in that book. Skip, as usual, is completely wrong on everything.

[@liyahn2373]

2 points 1. Why didn't Jerry just pick up the phone., call MJ, and tell him that Phil declined a 1 year extension? Seems like an easy call to make if he wanted to keep and pay MJ 2. Instead of debating if Scottie would have stayed, why hasn't anyone asked him?

[@commonsense3921]

EXACTLY! When you really want to keep somebody you leave no misunderstandings snd no tock unturned.

[@liyahn2373]

@@commonsense3921 Yup ! Jerry let MJ walk and are making Phol the scapegoat. I believe you could plug and play just about any coach on that team and they are contenders. They blew the team up and went into a rebuild after a Championship season. It just doesn't make sense.

[@loudtake9980]

Just to put in context how pivotal Scottie was to Jordans success, Remember Jordan was 1 win 8 losses in the playoffs And two sweeps before Scottie got there

[@dylanyates7463]

No Skip, you’re wrong. Wrong. Being told going 82-0 and still being let go is why did it. Stop skip. You’re making your argument against yourself.

[@pomerlain8924]

It did work out well for Steve Kerr. He got paid and wound up having his own personal 4-peat in winning with the Spurs in 1999. I don't think any other player has been part of four consecutive championship teams.

[@kirkmcghee1662]

Ever here of Havlicek, Russell and Cousy?😂

[@mercwithayoutube]

Actually the rumor back then reported by Tom Dore in 98 was if the band got back mainly Pip , Jordan and Phil tho Rodman prob wouldn’t return Barkley wanted to join the Bulls for the 1 million exception . In a Shortened season that team Easily getting back to the finals , losing some defense of Rodman but getting more offense a lil less rebounding but still a good one in Charles. Also Pippen was gonna be talked into a 2-3 year deal not a 1 deal if they all came back

[@goodfella2400]

Side note: Tom Dore and Johnny Kerr were golden. Miss those guys.

[@chrissams6230]

Barkley was shot he would have to be a roll player

[@mercwithayoutube]

Chris Sams Barkley averaged 16 and 12 shooting 47% from the field and averaged 23 and 14 in The playoffs that season

[@chrissams6230]

MercWithA KZbin ROLL PLAYER Lamar oden type numbers

[@simple45679]

@@chrissams6230 He would have been starting as PF

[@selenasimmons6653]

No. Jerry said (& the other back em up) IDC if they go 82-0..Phil not coming back..so Phil did go to mingle in LA b4 tht last championship..the owner was paying them PEANUTS for the 6 championships they got..nobody was gonna sign for anthr yr..for peanuts

[@asphaltlg7]

Shannon, Scottie has signature shoes..he was the 1st player nike used to debut a shoe at all star weekend. 1994

[@Deevon667]

Shannon right tho

[@Woe_Von]

No he isnt

[@donaldcreel2023]

How come Michael Jordan needs another star to help him. Why can’t he win those games with without another star. Because skip and everyone else talk about Jordan could do it by himself all the time. Crazy Michael Jordan fanboys!!!!!!!

[@coreyshaffer3903]

I guess Skip missed the part were MJ said repeatedly that he wouldn't play for another coach other than Phil Jackson.

[@luisito1273]

I think once Michael would have decided to stay and not been duped by Phil, the rest of the brotherhood would have stayed to defend their dynasty. 💪

[@Rubrick23.]

How is your unrealistic when no one beats them. That's the Mystique about a team that goes undefeated, with MJ by their side.

[@kSwissh007]

winning on top completing the 2nd 3peat perfect way to end an era jordan and tracy mcgrady wudve been special tho...jordans next challenge shudve been if he cud win a championship without phil jackson

[@bilalkhares9337]

I think Phil felt that the offer to give him another year was out if pressure from the public, not because they wanted to.

[@DemonDriver31]

Grant Hill , maybe Shawn Kemp .

[@phillip_reynolds]

I’m surprised I’m about to say this but I agree with a lot of what Skip is saying. I think that the Bulls could’ve kept going without Phil Jackson and Scottie Pippen but I understand how MJ didn’t wanna play with another coach. I think Pip would’ve stayed had Jordan not retired. Could you imagine if Jordan stayed and the Bulls traded for Tracy McGrady though???

[@blvkmirror8388]

2020 has been an eff'd up year

[@mickeyhartsell6096]

Michael Jordan was from another planet, he made dynasty his middle name. His vertical was the highest air time recorded in NBA history.

[@VickHushpuppy215]

Skip is in love wit MJ and its sickening lol

[@mazzb305]

I think Pippen was leaving regardless.

[@erikhopkins9488]

Exactly!

[@jaydabliu]

Man... it's so hard to listen to Skip's take sometimes. He focuses more on disagreeing with Shannon than actually giving factual, well thought out takes. I find myself skipping his take most times

[@MoetChandonHollywoodlifestyles]

It's a debate show.

[@ninotorres51]

Since when are basketball prime years 35, 36, 37. Skip is losing it🤨🤨🤨

[@franklinedochie5437]

Skip talking nonsense. You think he’d just retire based on Phil’s words??? Come on skip. Be smart

[@jeremychannel333]

Shannon is more on to this than Skip, their were to many cards falling out of the deck to keep it all together back then

[@TheJudgeJuryExecutioner]

Im with Shannon. A 4th ring only benefits MJ nobody else wins so of course MJ would say what he said. MJ is the goat either way.

[@justinallen9731]

They reported that Phil was offered a contract in the espn classic documentary

[@jermainesims8836]

Why is arms pits wet skip 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@lincolnchiller1274]

There’s an episode of hot ones with skip and shannon where skip stands with his arms fastened to his sides bc his pits were so sweaty

[@jermainesims8836]

Lincoln Chiller guess he doesn’t believe in deodorant what’s be all natural 😂

[@Taj_Rahine]

Shannon actually makes a good point. Scottie woulda left anyway for the paycheck.

[@rishiprabhuram4368]

5:17 skip is wrong, phil wrote in his book that reinsdorf offered him a deal to come back but the damage between Krause and Jackson was done. And pippen wasn’t coming back

[@bmills6176]

Pippen was gone he was like show me the money lol longley got paid too why wasn't longley in this documentary? I wonder why

[@pomerlain8924]

I believe Luc is back home in Australia and they probably couldn't make the logistics work for him to to come to the US or them to go to Australia to interview him.

[@svz-pc2pb]

I agree they could have run it back, but Skip is wrong about a few things. First, Phil was only offered to return with the understanding that the team would be rebuilding. He told Reinsdorf he wasn’t interested in coaching a rebuilding team. I recall Phil writing during the 98 playoff run that the only thing that may have brought him back is if management asked him to stay as long as Jordan wanted to play, but that was never discussed. Jordan wasn’t interested in coming back to a rebuilding situation either. Krause wrote in his memoirs that the team was not bringing back Longley, Rodman, Pippen, Kerr, or Buechler. Secondly, Pippen was never going to accept a one year deal when other teams could offer him 45mil for 4 years. However, it’s a bit of a cop out by Reinsdorf. They could have signed Scottie to a three or four year max deal and traded him in a year or two. Krause just wanted the salary cap cleared for after the 2000 season when Hill, McGrady and Duncan were free agents. Ironically, I believe those players did not come partly due to the reputation Krause and Reinsdorf had built for not having any loyalty to the players. Rodman ended up signing a one-year deal for just a million dollars with the Lakers and Jud Buechler signed a two-year deal worth around $2 million with Detroit. I understand Luc Longley and Steve Kerr were on their last legs and it was in their best interest to take the security of a long-term deal, but I believe the team could’ve moved forward without those guys for at least another year and competed for an encore run. Kukoc, Harper, Bill Wennington, Dicky Simpkins, Randy Brown were all back the following season. The blame falls strictly on ownership and management.

[@QuietStorm3757]

I so disagree with you on this one Shannon, had the Bulls Dynasty stayed healthy, got along, & stayed together, in their prime, & everyone satisfied with their pay too, they would have easily 10peat, or more! Under the same circumstances though I give them an 8peat!

[@SwagMaster824]

Lol nah they probably would’ve gotten another ring but that’s it. Not without Phil Jackson.

[@TheJourneyofAll]

Scotty didn't want to play in 98. Wtf make you think he was coming back for another year when this was all about the money.

[@jrgist6236]

Can u imagine mcgrady getting taught and being beside Jordan... that crazy

[@gspar116]

Also could you imagine McGrady being paired with Shaq and Kobe because that almost happened too it’s crazy how he got so close to having a very different career so many times

[@pomerlain8924]

I think the Bulls could have kept winning if they were able to keep Phil in place and chose to reload instead of rebuild. They couldn't keep everybody after 98, but I do think MJ would have advocated for Pippen getting the max deal he deserved. And as for the other guys they lost, like Kerr and Longley, go out and get new pieces through trades, free agency and the draft. And at the very least, even if they don't win another championship at that time, you at least put down a foundation to be competitive and win again in the future, similar to what we've seen in San Antonio the last 20 or so years. And Phil could groom another coach to succeed him. That would have been much better than just doing a rebuild. The Bulls, save for some blip years with Heinrich and Rose, have never recovered from this.

[@aartrayaalgolden9931]

I don't believe Michael was being played. Regardless of how Phil left, he wasn't coming back. Period. His decision had nothing to do with Michael. What if its as simple as the Lakers offering more money? And if Michael wanted to come back so badly, why didn't he just go straight to the owner?

[@bilalkhares9337]

I think they would have won in 1999 and it would have been interesting to see them go against the Shaq and Kobe Lakers, especially with Shaq on a mission that year

[@jspi04]

I would agree

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

I’d hate to imagine what a 4th try would have been like. By the 3rd ring that team was on fumes, something bad could’ve happened if they kept going.

[@JJohnson313]

It’s was unrealistic to win a 3peat in the first place. Let alone two. Still happened tho.

[@simple45679]

Yet people try to act MJ had it easy doing it TWICE. GSW couldn't even get 3 in a row once smh

[@beauburrell3318]

Jordan had one all-star his entire career & that was Pippen. We all know MJ inspired & made him mentally tough to be a top 50 player.

[@dionr1168]

At least Steve Kerr got 5 more rings out of leaving the Bulls... With two other dynasties (Spurs and Warriors).

[@kingc4595]

You all acting as if Scottie Pippen and other are dead, lets stop opporating under the system of assumptions; invite Pippen on the show and ask him the questions that have you all always guessing. lol 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣.

[@Superfly369]

As a coach Phil is really great man

[@adamwebb831]

Just because Jordan believes they would come back, doesn't mean it was going to happen.

[@0j00n]

instead of bickering back and forth why couldnt they get scottie, rodman, kukoc, kerr on the line and ask them directly. It would only take each person one minute of their time for a phone call.

[@dylanyates7463]

Phil was told if he went 82-0 he wouldn’t be brought back. That’s the reality, that’s the realistic sense of this. I made a 15 min video into a 10 second read.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Why does Skip believe everything Micheal says himself but not when Micheal says he doesn’t blame his coach.

[@michelstitchy19]

Skip is just being biased because the only one who could have benefited from them coming back is MJ.. Shannon won this hands down

[@joshuapatterson6487]

A Tracy Mcgrady, Nash, and Jordan trio in Phoenix beating the Spurs and Nets in '99? I think so 😎.

[@DemonDriver31]

Then add Penny Hardaway to the mix.

[@macp2657]

oooo two mj topics. that means we def not getting a cowboy or brady topic

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Michael must have done something to Shannon back in the day

[@Hakeem990]

Shannon is a client of LeBron production company

[@alvinfung5684]

I think Shannon has a point coming from a player's point of view. He understands the psychological of an athlete.

[@victorallencook7107]

The 1998-1999 Chicago Bulls lineup : Derek Fisher , Michael Jordan , Scottie Pippen , Chris Webber , Dikemba Mutumbo .