J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1978 - Seminar 7 - What is it that flowers?

J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1978 - Seminar 7 - What is it that flowers?
Summary:
Q: Can a mind that is committed flower at all?
The total mind is in a self-created trap. It is aware of this when there is pain. To escape from that pain creates another trap.
Thought in its very seed is limited. Can thought, consciousness, the totality of it, be aware of itself?
If there is insight there is intelligence, and thought then has its place.
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[@marvingainsborougify]

I always find relief in these talks. Sometimes they seem twaddle to me, sometimes I am deeply moved. Always is there an atmosphere of pure presence.

[@annelbeab8124]

A brilliant session. Tedious at times, but very fruitful. Stay with it when you watch it.

[@krom1415]

Thank you for sharing these, what a beautiful man.

[@dupakoorkannan5233]

K's patience is infinite!

[@spider161]

It's not patience, it's K .

[@joginderanand7618]

I feel that intimately relating to this reference to the question of listening to sound which is of immense significance When the brain is absolutely quite there is no sound made by the word THaT. IS RRAL LISTENING Ending of. the. movement of the. time_thought is the "Now"The Now is the whole universe of time-thoight If. I have an insight that there is nothing then I do not exist K also talks of listening without sound

[@TheJyothy]

K is infinite

[@imjerry4313]

we all know how brilliant k was, but the very human dialogue is what I find kind of peacefully, the interchange of "thought" in the very moment, how is building up itself in a very armounius way...that to me is enough

[@paulokartmanignacio4911]

K's best teaching on what 'insight' is.

[@chelacarias8225]

Gracias Gracias Gracias por compartir este Maravilloso video. Felicitaciones y bendiciones

[@ishapattanashettar9504]

Thank you for uploading 🙏🙏

[@corpuscallosum4677]

Physical scientists are raising questions mostly on the physical, while K is saying we're only physical manifestations of our psyches. It's indivisible, no centers, no egos, just occurs with apt conditions and circumstances. Unless we realize flower just is, there's no separation of I, flower nor seeing the flowering of it, we can't understand this sage's pathless land. Choiceless Awareness, just is, no mental distinctions. It sprouts, grows, blooms, decays and dies, the flow of total consciousness in time-space bounded existence. Thanks K and friends..

[@mohankadolkar1227]

You have caught the essence. I think what he means is that we need only exist as a natural living organism from moment to moment without worrying about what's next(time) in store. Everything created by thought only takes us away from the truth, i.e., that seen with awareness that is free from man-made concepts. Life is not required to be fitted in the concepts about it.

[@AjayVerma-gl2ri]

When material thought reaches its boundary. Insight of this is freedom from its structure. It stops ceaseless attempt to reach finality of life.

[@annelbeab8124]

One of the most precious talks.

[@drdheerajananda]

Beautiful...

[@AjayVerma-gl2ri]

They all seems to got awakened to truth today.❤

[@abhishekkj3662]

he sounds so innocent and composed...i cant help but smile whenever i see him smile

[@smile4today1]

I’m so elated all the burden of the thought that created such suffering in the movement of thought. 🎯🙌🏼❤️🙏🏼

[@akshaybarala4442]

U are also a thought

[@mmsaint4283]

Buda foi direto ao ponto: tudo é dor e toda dor vem do desejo de não sentirmos dor.

[@joginderanand7618]

The audience in the seminar must have had the taste of the timeless This to me is the greatest Blessing I for one must admit to the strange non- existence Words fail me to go on Some thing say ethereal

[@satpaulbangarh3718]

Wonderful. See Dr Parchure with other dignitaries. Insight is not induced by thought. Attachment is pain.

[@mariechong3248]

Profound insights into thoughts trappings

[@intothespace.....9442]

Beautiful JK

[@chelacarias8225]

Florecer...Amor...Compasión..Inteligencia

[@agustinussiahaan6669]

Thank you everybody who involved in this work. I have some questions: 1. Did Krishna refered that discussed love as God's love? Because man's love is always limited. 2. Ritual was produced by thought, hence it gives pain. So, can a religion that based on rituals produces love? 3. Can we sum-up our loves as a collective love? 4. Can an enforcement of criminal law be called as an act of love? Whose love is that: man's collective love or God's love?

[@sylviagung1007]

The movement that has no begining,no ending...🤔😁 My yoke is light and easy!

[@aloneldor]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@gentiantafa4619]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@sadiemoeit3809]

❤️

[@robertopuccianti8498]

🙏🔥🧡🌻

[@preethikrao]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@willami2957]

A group of minds trying to figure out what the mind already knows but isn't aware of. Interesting

[@cristianpajares2153]

And compassion

[@ravikabir2276]

Innovation, creations comes only when you empty the remembrance, and start from zero and move towards blossoming with complete energy where there is nothing to loose and nothing to compare

[@GaidKhambGaming]

What a simple man K.is

[@ultrasignificantfootnote3378]

He warms his hands under his legs to get more profound thoughts.

[@SudhirDudeja]

Nice thought, I wonder if you do the same.

[@purohitchintan66]

@@SudhirDudeja 😂🙏🏻

[@ThePianist-yt9wo]

😂

[@tripzincluded8087]

hahahaha 'the mind can not see that, it is the I AM that knows that' hahaha "in Grace & Gratitude" -thanks God for giving us J. Krishnamurti- (::) p.s: "by going into thought, One notices it's limits and therefore goes deeper, inward - the only way out is in"

[@DavidTinxLall1978]

👊

[@yogeshvr7457]

Please name the other participants in the seminar

[@yogeshvr7457]

In ending what happened please explain @KMF

[@JN003]

would comfortable chairs help ?

[@AsimChoudhury]

I wondered about that before, now after reading his biography I know that he liked to sit on wooden chairs with straight back.

[@anjujain464]

Without Dr. Shainberg it's hard to digest

[@marvingainsborougify]

Dr. Shainberg is a little bit annoying

[@habi7630]

K is saying "does the mind realise that any movement of thought is limited? " I hear it like any other statement and continues my way. Let's look into it. Any movement of thought is limited. How? Consider a child playing in a beach. He is building something with sand. No,

[@Franco-en4vh]

the man who woke up angry at the end

[@inspiregrow2336]

Jk is Legend

[@vadulam]

I wish Dr. Sheinberg and Dr. Bohm would just shut up and listen to this great man!

[@mvelasebafana7076]

bruh its like they are not understanding

[@balubudhathoki977]

Oh no no sir. Dr Bohm is the man who sparks the inquiry in K.

[@elenol1310]

@@balubudhathoki977 Yes, David always asks great questions ,so you better just listen

[@martinfranke8866]

limited thought goes on and on ;)

[@SudhirDudeja]

@@martinfranke8866 if that goes on goes then isn’t unlimited?

[@designersan]

Is there a place to discuss his teachings?

[@vivekmehetre363]

we can

[@Universko]

Oh how​@@vivekmehetre363

[@a_man_jaiswal]

1:27:28 - Creation

[@carlosvelasquez3279]

The guy was so smart that he never got married.

[@sylviagung1007]

Movement within the field ... What is this field?

[@nithingovind5068]

Everything that you think.

[@Ronitbroy]

The whole arena of thought...

[@Ritziey]

What is it that flowers.. Ans. - a flower? Wrong.! Flowers flow, butter butts and water watts

[@mrrich8689]

What 😂😂

[@krox477]

Poetry

[@lenamoon9758]

what is in the end happened , why they look at the floor and laughed?

[@nithingovind5068]

I think the Indian guy may have done or said something to JK.

[@inspiregrow2336]

All movement which is thought is the making of traps

[@LocalGnd]

When Thought Ends, Magic Begins Within the stillness of non-movement and the embrace of silence lies the fertile ground where synchronicities bloom. Here, the walls of separation begin to crumble, revealing the truth that thought, in its very essence, has erected the illusion of division within this dimension. In the realm of logic, where thought reigns supreme, miracles seem like fleeting shadows, mere coincidences too improbable to believe. Yet, when thought surrenders its hold and non-movement becomes our sanctuary, we awaken to the dance of divinity unfolding around us. Suddenly, the numbers 222, 444, 777 appear like celestial whispers, guiding our steps. The people we hold in our hearts call, the videos we yearn for appear, and opportunities, like luminous threads, weave themselves into our path. We find ourselves in the right place at the right time, faith blossoming within us as silence blankets the world. In this space of non-movement, clarity emerges, revealing the intricate design behind the magic. We understand that these coincidences, too vast and complex to comprehend, are not accidents but orchestrations of a divine order. They are the bridge that guides us away from the rigid cause-and-effect paradigm and into a paradigm of limitless possibilities. As each individual experiences this shift, the collective consciousness ascends, generating a wave of magic that washes away suffering and replaces it with an ocean of bliss. This expansive energy, radiating from the core of our being, propels us towards the ultimate goal: Nirvana, Heaven, a state of perfect unity and unwavering peace. The journey to this sacred destination lies within the quietude of our own hearts. By silencing the clamor of the mind and embracing the stillness of non-movement, we become instruments of divine magic, contributing to the grand symphony of interconnectedness that sings the song of existence.

[@iusearchbtw7650]

who is that one woman on this video?

[@bhaveshmahale1179]

Why were they laughing?

[@KINGJUNAID555]

51:36

[@lodussorus6151]

I know the deity, the savior who can free you from your painful prison and dreadful life. A sacrifice must be dedicated to the Lord in order for you to enter into the heavenly abode of freedom and to join the most high in the very beautiful, the garden of Bliss. Side effects include wallet-ache, slavery, begging syndrome, violent dumb offspring and self-destructive behavior.

[@sylviagung1007]

The difference between K and Jesus is that K treats the listeners as adults and when a listener mentions "children" into the talk, K jolts, while Jesus treats his followers as children and give teachings in parables.... That time, this time, people behave the same, coming from twisted education.

[@spider161]

Interresting.

[@inspiregrow2336]

Because the mind of child or adult all is same

[@bollywoodamateurhour]

Anyone with the good fortune of being able to afford a mobile phone and a data plan can listen to K speak for himself. Jesus does not have that privilege so we can never know the real difference.

[@pavankumar-ew3lh]

Dr Sheinburg,wish you should have missed this meeting , your unnecessary interruption to prove your thinking and validation have missed lot of beautiful explanations of Mr JK

[@sylviagung1007]

Aren't you exactly "within the field" from which your words and attitudes extend, "flower?

[@grahaminglis4242]

This is a unique opportunity to see first hand how traditionally trained medical practitioners (Shainberg and Parchure) express great difficulty in accepting that there can be an alternative approach to understanding psychological pain differently to the pathological model they learned in medical school. They won’t listen to the natural meditative reasoning espoused by Krishnamurti and supported to some extent by Dr Bohm. It shows the blockage that specialist knowledge clings to because their reputation as ‘doctors’ is being challenged by a person (Krishnamurti) who’s facts about the holistic approach to consciousness are being proposed as a non-clinical approach that dissolves conflict, contradiction etc completely by simply beginning the understanding enquiry without predetermined knowledge in the way of concepts, principles or conclusions. A triumph for the intelligence of a ‘free’ mind (insight) as against the presumption of the intellectual capacity of stored up knowledge psychologically.

[@endless2804]

@@grahaminglis4242 well said. An absolutely riveting conversation.

[@nikhilkrishnan9]

Too much philosophical and poetic rubbish going on here. Just like the case with most religious texts that I know of. J Krishnamurti is a perfect example of those awakened men who ends up creating scriptures, either intentionally or otherwise. Probably this is the case because of the training that he was put through as a child.

[@elenol1310]

Is what you say true?

[@img008]

He doesn’t have the patience to find out if what he said is true. It’s the trolls world

[@janklaas6885]

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