J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1978 - Public Discussion 1

J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1978 - Public Discussion 1 - Are you aware of the structure...

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J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1978 - Public Discussion 1 - Are you aware of the structure of yourself?
Summary:
What is the need of a human mind, brain, to register anything at all?
Are you really serious to find out the necessity of registration and the inadequacy psychologically of any form of registration? If you say belief is a danger then why do you hold on to it?
When you are very clear, there is no need for choice. A mind that is confused chooses.
There is no relationship whatsoever between awareness and faith. Faith is not a fact, it is a belief.
You don't want to climb the mountain, which is arduous, which demands that you carry little. This demands that you work, that you look.
Find out what actually takes place when the structure observed is the observer himself.
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@corpuscallosum4479 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks K and friends.

@her26mlifecount21 7 ай бұрын

“I am that I am!

@mariofabrini3304 2 жыл бұрын

Grande sempre. Grazie.

@bulanlumbangaol 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Terima kasih.

@sanekabc 2 жыл бұрын

This is a very different message from "you are not your thoughts and emotions" that most other vedanta/advaita and Buddhist teachers keep saying or that you are the witness and not the contents of the mind. K is saying that you are.

@MarinoBaccarini 2 жыл бұрын

I dare to say that J.K. points out that everything we experience is part of us, is us, the anger is us, the fears are us, love is us, violence is us, our anxiety and depression are us. But the thought wants us to separate ourselves from all those things and find a way to deal with them, like when we take a painkiller to separate ourselves from the pain. When we build a gap between us and our, let's say, body pain, we want to suppress it with either a method like meditation or a drug. Many of our diseases are created out of our voluntary choices to suppress something that we think we shouldn't share with the world we live in. Only when we become friends with our deepest nature, with our ancient desires that the conditioning mind wanted us to hide in order to become slaves of it, only then we accept ourselves as we are, at this very moment, and our body pains disappear because they're like a warning that something is wrong with us, not with society but with our true nature so the body warns us with skin diseases, stomach disorders, and all kind of ways our body knows can serve its purpose. Many Buddhist monks tell the story of a monster who found a king's throne empty while he was away and sat on it. Then all the soldiers tried to push the monster away but every time they tried with swords or spears to push it off the throne the monster got bigger and bigger. When the king returned he found a huge monster sitting on his throne but instead of chasing him he asked him what he wanted, what he liked to have, some food, something to drink so every act of kindness and acceptance towards him made him smaller and smaller and eventually harmless and so he went away. Jack Kornfield oftentimes repeats that maybe all our struggles are linked to only one problem: self-acceptance. The more I reflect on it the more I feel it's true. The mind's job is to judge. Our struggles are related to refusing to accept ourselves as we are. When we stop judging everything, starting from ourselves we accept our whole nature, there's no more bad or good, tall or short, fat or skinny, there's only us. With all the trimmings!

@marinejulien5949 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, seeing we are the content of our minds is quite different from seeing us as witnesses. It gives us full responsibility to see us 'as we are', not escaping.

@WhiteFace2012 2 жыл бұрын

@@MarinoBaccarini agree on all exepxt the part when u divide me and society, you are society, the me is society with all our fears n desires society is created and krishna says that, thank you for the comment men, so pleasurable to read :)

@akshays949 2 жыл бұрын

Vedanta says you are the observer but the observed is you , You cannot separate observed from the observer, if you do its the mind that separates so its an illusion

@kevincastelino3209 2 жыл бұрын

To this thread of comments JK would have said it is not relevant whether he says or Buddha says or Vedanta says unless we become the observer and have an insight to the observer is observed. Until then Thought rules.

@divyadharaa 2 жыл бұрын

1:05:20 🙏🏼

@ashrafulhaque8759 2 жыл бұрын

LOL, this audience is like kids in a primary school classroom...so eager to answer a question but no real thought behind it . JK is asking to have a honest conversation with themselves...but something none of us are trained to do.