J. Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 1979 - Seminar 6 - Can you have insight if there is a centre?

[@corpuscallosum4677]

Insight is absolute, illuminating, Non-linear, synergistic, indivisible. While scientific discovery is relative, time-modulating, linear, and always organized. Only through individual imploring can we realize the indivisibility of Truth, enigmatic, almost impossible yet simple. Thanks K and friends.

[@baoya3868]

I was eager to know the answer throughout each seminar, every time I thought I “got” it, it turned out that is not the thing. And I saw how my mind processed, tried to figure out something to have that “Ah hah!” moment. Until I finished the whole conversation, I realized what called “that is”. Thank you teacher for his compassion and the chance to meet these videos!

[@hrishikeshsingh9384]

When thought realises that he can’t do anything then it gets still. Utterly relaxed . And then it starts flowing with what whatever is happening

[@sangarapillaishanmugam8244]

absolutely , only love compassion and intelligence, that is insight where intelligence uses thought not other way around, unique celestial oneness , timeless energy and brain can touch infinity , meditative mind

[@rajubapat7092]

The BASIC problem which people wanted to know just before the end of the Dialogue, is THAT any and all audience (including now the on-line audience) who are listening - then they should be able to ONLY listen only and the LISTNER has to go absent as JK pointed out that there should be Action without Actor. So, suggest, please see that only Listening is taking place without the Listner. Because as long as Listner is there, there would not be 100% listening and therefore, self-centred activity shall continue forever. As JK said that when he listens to Dr Bohm or Prof Wilkins, then his mind is attached to none which means, Listner is absent.

[@CR_07770]

Right sir

[@joginderanand7618]

It is interesting to examine non verbally coming about a state of mind ever free to experience afresh Humility is not an experience Experience implies recognition and this creates the experiencer which becomes center of experience Action without actor comes about when experience is gone through fully leaving no mark behind So every challenge is responded to afresh and is timeless

[@joginderanand7618]

Logically there is no " i' to contact All that there is the phenomenal universe as object out there "you" are my object ' but "I" do not exist asI: I am your subject I could only exist as I if I were an object' but an object cannot be a subject or' subject an object' so that as subject I ' cannot exist. therefore ' as I' no thing (object)exits: but an object cannot be a subject or' subject an object: d So that as subject I cannot. ,,exist

[@SylusFyynch]

@@joginderanand7618wow ❤

[@zeph9751]

It sums up one of his previous statements: " staying completely with what is" either internally or externally, which in itself stops the movement of thoughts and the self. Wow!

[@DPLS77]

What an amazing discussion. Towards the end it felt like discussion was going to reach an impasse but before you know it it happens.

[@rockyrai7314]

Most beautiful words 1:18:56. Just Great straight from God for us.

[@GardenGlow-215]

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[@smile4today1]

Wow k points for 6 seminars To see the dangerous psychological structure of the illusion of a center. which creates from thought’s of time then a center arises. To come to that insight that there is nothing no persona of a “me” can do, attain, become...etc The mind has to be still as a gap of stillness of the mind. 🙏🏼thank you

[@parthasarathi1711]

Listening in 2023..feels as relevant as it probably was in 1979 to that audience

[@naveenrana3144]

I think k’s will be most relevant in coming time as humans have started rejected everything(religions, rituals) that does not make logical sense.

[@rotgutthebloated4730]

Im afraid it will truly be relevant in 3023 when human intelligence reaches higher levels

[@akhileshkumarshukla5776]

It is becoming more relevant with each passing day.

[@akhileshkumarshukla5776]

Golden words

[@grahaminglis4242]

Krishnamurti points out the subtle, but enormous distinctions between deliberate actions which - whether it is realised or not- are always coming from the past and therefore are ‘doing or not doing’ something in or over time, not immediately; and the other action which springs from seeing the fact that all psychological ‘doing’ is totally irrelevant and to remain with this ‘insight’ whilst it flowers. The first states of mind are the result of conditioning, whereas the state brought about by insight has broken through the conditioning and therefore it is a ‘free’ movement quite apart from the binding of timely consciousness. This freedom is not afraid of the unknown and may be said to live and die to every moment as it happens naturally, therefore it is not something that is possible to experience.

[@visrik]

Quite helpful

[@michaelodriscoll]

When the point if " thoughtlessness is reached, ", Nothing is to be done. The ending of " i am", psychologically... it is so. The Event Horizon has been crossed. Namaste ✌🏼🙌💚🌞👍

[@KINGJUNAID555]

56:33 A True Master...

[@kishimahati6632]

21:44 Is that David Bohm ?

[@智慧之光-y1t]

51:32 1:03:45 why not change 1:15:58 The mind see the truth that I can't do a thing trying to imporve the Self. When thought is no longer seeking or afraid of losing anything (effortlessness), the sense of Self or Ego disapear in the absolute still of mind at that moment.

[@nishantbarnwal6838]

In between 1:00:10, we are very attached to the body not the mind and we haven't given such an importance to our mind we only given the physical appearance so that's all...

[@nishantbarnwal6838]

I think my perception is that, why we can't remove our "self", because, we are very attached to the knowledge, money and so on,which that we get the respect from the society and so we are very afraid of that losing our respect in order from lower to higher... isn't it?

[@joginderanand7618]

A man who is really Discontented and without cause which can not be appeased because his sensitivity is wakened enough and nothing holds any attraction to sway his senses whatever: I mean this One can go on adding more in the shape of otherwise compulsive attractions any one .may fall for The Buddha and rarely few one might think of may serve as examples

[@GardenGlow-215]

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[@KINGJUNAID555]

27:46 ~

[@NeoDerAuserwählte]

Why are they asking so much, they should listen

[@Manuel-zz1nz]

1:20:20

[@maheshn9970]

What is the meaning?

[@BamBhole1]

👍

[@DavidTinxLall1978]

🙏🍫

[@SudhirDudeja]

Why can’t I swim to other bank because I am already on other side.

[@onorg1]

before seeing that, u were swimming, after seeing that , there will be swimming

[@sanketsirsat6670]

actually there is no i and no other bank

[@krox477]

There's no other bank the other Bank is created by thought. The activity of going there is creation of thought

[@bolna21]

Psychological insensitive...... we Dont see the danger of it. This is starting point and middle point and the end point. And we cant jump because of self center ... Realization of it totally. END.

[@joginderanand7618]

I one's life one is faced with really trying situations in which one is inextricably stuck One is faced with real crisis But after having been obsessed one comes up against a dead end and gives up having lost all hope Then after lapse of some time answer comes out of the blue as it were This is not so rare Often in crisis things happen to our amazement I presume the brain cells stop chasing That May be the secret

[@teodoro3541]

Pobrecillo. Mira que lo intentó.....

[@souravdas-zp1kt]

1:14:57

[@a_man_jaiswal]

1:17:40