When did the Europeans Colonize Islamic Nations? | History of the Middle East 1820-1839 - 6/21

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[@JabzyJoe]

The Story so far - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHrci3eQZsylY7c

[@death-istic9586]

Love your videos!🩶

[@Deez-df2hz]

Small correction, Hajduk is pronounced as Hayduk/Haiduk

[@JabzyJoe]

@@Deez-df2hz that makes sense now you say it

[@holysmoke8439]

The ottomans were behind the piracy in the med and the white slave trade for 1000 of years

[@Spartan_Disiplin]

​@@JabzyJoe The Qajars were not Persian, just as the Ottomans were not Greek. Do some research before making your videos.

[@iattacku2773]

Muhammad Ali lived an impressive life before his boxing days

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

🥱

[@4CelciusDegree]

You're so funny

[@San_Vito]

😢

[@iattacku2773]

@@4CelciusDegree thanks

[@meandwhosearmy5680]

😂I thought it was funny

[@b-1battledroid674]

"I lack the power to give life to a corpse, and the Turkish empire is dead." Dang that's a powerful quote!

[@tmdwu5360]

That was what we modern people call getting owned, but you could probably write an entire book on quotes that verbally batista bombed the late ottoman empire. :D

[@excusee7839]

Sounds like a smart person then claims to reform an empire died centuries ago.

[@b-1battledroid674]

@ISLAMMEHMEDOV to be fair during that time the Russian empire did appear that it would last far more than the ottomans...

[@b-1battledroid674]

@ISLAMMEHMEDOV yeah I know, I'm just saying that by the time the quote was made the Russian empire appeared to be more stable and all

[@mehmetfatihcetin5932]

​@@b-1battledroid674russian empire imo overextended a lot.nearly 200 m people were living in 1914 while it was 20m in 1800. Their population overgrew yet they continue to seek battles instead using money to help poor people Tsar was unskillfull too. I believe if they did this which germans worried about it too much. Everything would be much better for them and the world.

[@korakys]

So this episode takes us up to 1839, that's around the start of my country's existence (New Zealand). It was also funny hearing that "Wellington got mad at Auckland" as these are (not coincidentally) the names of our two biggest cities and they can get mad at each other from time to time, especially as one is the political capital and the other the business capital.

[@bgpencia4344]

New Zealand is Türkiye land, it's trve name is Türania Australis Viyalet you stupid westoid, Maoris are of Türkish ethnicity not Mongol Sinoid stock invented by Angloid Saxoids TÜRKIYE STRONG!!!!!THE WOLF LIVES INSIDE US WE ARE ALL TURKS!!!

[@amanullah1290]

Excellent job on showing Afghanistan in a more detailed fashion. Afghanistan is often very simplified in maps of this era, but in reality is very divided. With Dost Mohammad to later unite all of Afghanistan.

[@amanullah1290]

Later, Dost Mohammad turned very pious, giving up wine, drinking, and became very religious.

[@JabzyJoe]

Probably takes longer to research Afghanistan than any other nation.

[@TimboSlice69420]

Thinking about the Roman Empire is so mainstream like ok "history buff" when did you last think about the Safavid dynasty

[@SireJaxs]

I think about the Safavid Empire every day.

[@somehistorynerd]

I hate the Safavids, all my homies HATE the Safavids

[@nourahmed-sh2ox]

The Egyptian version is try not to think of Mohamed Ali for 2 minutes

[@SleepyjoeOG]

@@SireJaxsthe Safavid empire is the key to having a good day

[@robevans8629]

Never. Because romans are way more interesting.

[@powerofediting1657]

I love these videos! They’re perfect to listen to during a long drive! I know these videos take a lot of time, but after you’re done with this series, could you do a video on The history of Southeast Asia? It’s a very fascinating yet overlooked part of history (until the Vietnam War, that is)

[@JabzyJoe]

I am struggling to pick the next topic. Keep going between Russia, South East Asia, Colonisation of America or, even, one on the Indian Ocean after the Portuguese arrived

[@bcvetkov8534]

​@@JabzyJoePost colonial South America would be a sweet idea for you to do. Especially Bolivars liberation wars.

[@10Dragoon01]

​@@JabzyJoeI'd personally find the Indian ocean topic a great one to cover. It'd be a natural addendum to the topic of the middle east (if you want to do a one-off) and would showcase the power struggle between the Ottomans and Portuguese in an area of the world which gets talked about too rarely by History YT in my opinion.

[@FunnyBlackHole]

@@JabzyJoemaybe have a community vote? Personally id choose SEA since i feel most English speakers are unfamiliar with the history of that area

[@zhongxina988]

@@JabzyJoe Russia will be a good one for this format

[@kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168]

Thank you, massive coverage of relevant times.

[@andyistphdhpc2726]

Ottoman Turks were themselves colonizers, they colonized Europe longer than Europe colonized them

[@tylermorrison420]

i thought they lost at vienna

[@hazzardalsohazzard2624]

​@@tylermorrison420That was the high water mark for expansion into Europe, but not the end of their empire

[@fanthony]

More people need to know this fact and make this vocabulary mainstream. Islam’s militaristic expansion into Byzantine territories, Persia, India, and Spain was all brutal colonialism. Let’s call it by its correct name.

[@the3zoooz1]

Europe never conquered turkey

[@the3zoooz1]

​@@fanthonyand? That's literally how all empires were during that time.

[@Mtioo1]

The average video length is 40 Minuets and we still have to get 9 videos, brudars we still have a long way to go

[@caseclosed9342]

3:56 I’ve seen the White Tower in Thessaloniki. It’s actually pretty cool, you’d have no idea there was so much bloodshed there if you saw it today…

[@korakys]

Some people take video titles and thumbnails a bit too seriously. This video even has the "enticement" title first followed by the "real" title after the | [bar].

[@death-istic9586]

Love your videos!🩶

[@Alqoaity]

18:03 In fact Aden borders here in the map looks much larger than actual Aden colony borders, as the British colony was limited to the inner town of Aden only, without including the neighboring coasts and villages of Abadels emirate.

[@JabzyJoe]

Yeah, there will be a whole sections on Yemen in later episodes to go into more detail on it.

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

​@@JabzyJoewould you cover india or Mughal, Maratha and british conquests later?

[@9860289]

​​@@JabzyJoefriend, please call those territories by the name of the dynastic rulers of your time, not Persia the states you mentioned were states of Turkish origin Water is an integral part of the statehood of Azerbaijanis Achaemenid and Sasanian states were the Persians After the collapse of the Arab caliphate, most of the states belonged to the Turks

[@San_Vito]

I think everyone over here is using the term "colonization" very loosely. We'd have to define it first, as the implicit definition used in most of the comments would mean that any form of State conquering another is a form of colonization, and then if we use this definition humanity has been colonizing other peoples since the Bronze Age. This is not something historians would agree with.

[@1stBroly]

Arabs and ottomans colonized the middle east way more efficient and radically. Colonization became like racism an activist term. At this point it does not matter what it means as long as it serves it purpose: resentment against the west.

[@ColtonAugustine-d6y]

Most historians worth their salt WOULD AGREE that colonialism has been occurring since the Bronze Age! Professor Keith Brannigan has written extensively about Minoan colonialism through Cambridge University. It is an absolute folly to let Critical theorists reappropriate the word “colonialism” to only refer to Western industrial powers.

[@scott2452]

That definition should take into account the etymology of the word…coming from the Latin “colo” (to till, cultivate) / “colonus” (farmer)…implicit in it is the idea of developing the land, making it fruitful/productive… we still use it in this sense when we talk about setting up a colony on Mars…

[@greasher926]

@@scott2452yes I agree with this. Just conquering a foreign land in and of itself isn’t colonialism. So for example the Mongols were conquerors but they were not colonizers as all they were concerned with was collecting taxes and would assimilate to the host nation and not the other way. However when a country takes over a land and starts building up the infrastructure and starts to actively assimilate the culture to that of the home country and especially when they start sending settlers from the home country then that is when I would consider colonialism. So not only Western Europeans participated in colonialism but also the US, Russia, Japan, Turkey etc. and in antiquity Greece, Rome, Persia, Phoenicia etc

[@AsIf-pz9kt]

Any attempt to redefine colonization to explicitly and only refer to the colonialism of western industrial powers is blatantly incorrect and anti western revisionism, regardless of whether it is the policy of historical academia or not

[@marcusprasad100]

33:15 mention of Sikh empire expansion towards Durrani Afghans

[@FreeFallingAir]

Made my morning

[@Mtioo1]

And there go's another 40 Minuets... thanks

[@ahmedhsan8934]

For north Africa this period was the start of the reforms and modernization and pretty much modern Tunisia was born

[@martinnilsson2110]

All of the videos in series is Gold! :)

[@tmdwu5360]

Awesome series, would be interesting to see something like this about colonization of america.

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

South America yes, but North America no

[@Game_Hero]

15:55 "The Sultan of Oman lives in Zanzibar now"

[@TheIconicWatermelon]

That’s just where he lives

[@ZS-rw4qq]

0:34 wasn't expecting Karađorđe to pop-up like this :)

[@JabzyJoe]

Nobody expects karadorde to pop up.

[@benjaminmartin8263]

I love it :) It's always because we have to stop those crazy russians. How many times has the "west" said that in order to create havoc ?? It's comical to me.

[@mnemonicpie]

Finally they stopped the evil Russians just to be replaced by the Ottomans👍

[@Game_Hero]

The victims of the russian empire-building efforts did say it, and to not be conquered by it.

[@Ledpooplin55]

"and the likes"... anyone? If you're a fan of this channel you must know.

[@jstantongood5474]

Chios pronounced "kee oss" or "hee os" no cheese sound when you see "ch".

[@marksuper3802]

Is it colonization only when Europeans do it? Humans have colonized each other since the beginning of human conscious time.

[@JabzyJoe]

I don't think many would claim that.

[@NicholasHeiner-h6d]

I would avoid arguing with people who hold that opinion. They probably don’t know much history.

[@sinan6121]

Every colonisation is different tho europeans had litterly human zoos

[@marksuper3802]

@@sinan6121 as a decendant of thr irish, i feel it is racist to be grouped into these “European Colonizers” our country was colonized and my ancestors forced to live in abject poverty with threat of starvation. What’s that called?

[@sinan6121]

@@marksuper3802 european colonasation

[@cov.teo.8131]

Hold up, were middle eastern assassins dressed like how you drew one at 16:57 ?

[@konstantinriumin2657]

Mujahideen and Americans in Afghanistan? I bet they didn't know what history will they start!

[@jonathanrotem251]

Your channel is wonderful, but please, it is pronouced "Druze", not "Druj".

[@italiaman]

23:30 What did my favourite box fighter do to deserve such critics?

[@AlbionTarkhan]

Europe didn’t colonise? If they did there’d be descendants of European people throughout the Middle East

[@popeagapitusi8]

there were the pied noirs in Algeria (though this is North africa ~ perhaps not technically middle east)

[@CanBeCrushed]

plenty in Algeria and the existing colony - Israel

[@Yukzo]

Most of the descendants fled the countries after they gained independence. There are still some living in their birthplace but it is very rare. Only in countries where decolonisation happened in a peaceful manner that some European descendants can be found.

[@heressomestuffifound]

Let’s see… well the Moors colonized Spain and tried to colonize France first, and then the Ottoman Turks colonized the Balkans into South Eastern Europe… so I guess maybe the European’s first “colonization” of the Islamic world was when they took their own land back.

[@YourKingJDG]

The moors were black, while still muslim, I guess it doesn’t get seen as the same thing.

[@omaraboal-azm8705]

Colonialism is different from conquest the moors ( Muslims of Iberia ) weren't just berbers the majority were ethnic Iberian Muslims but the northern Christian Spaniards kicked them out from the peninsula same with the ottomans they conquered the Balkans but didn't make it Turkish neither ethnic nor linguistic Iranians are still Iranians they didn't change their ethnic composition that mush most of Iran is still Iranian people

[@Fabioonn]

How do you think the Europeans got there?

[@joao.fenix1473]

​@@omaraboal-azm8705That sir is not true. Iran has been depopulated many times. Most recently by the Timurid conquest. The lands depopulated were then populated by Turks. Azerbaijan was entirely made of causcasians and Iranians. Nowadays it is made of Turks (both halfd of Azerbaijan)

[@omaraboal-azm8705]

@@joao.fenix1473 O don't see Arabs in this they only exist on the south and still you have kurds who are Iranian and there still some Iranians from Iranian decent Of course it was depopulated by the Mongols and the turks migrated there many times for hundreds of years even before Islam so the Arabs didn't Colonize Iran

[@mnemonicpie]

Colonization of Africa: 🤡 Colonization of the Middle East: 😍

[@Threezi04]

I can't tell if your Assad pfp is supposed to look like Austrian moustache man or Georgian moustache man

[@georgeghazaryan]

Colonization of Europe: 😍

[@georgeghazaryan]

Muslim colonization of Europe 2050 😍

[@mnemonicpie]

@@georgeghazaryan counter activity has been already started, soon your abdul arse will be sent back to desert😂

[@emperorshowa8842]

Will you make a video about the war between Hamas and Israel?

[@Jalayir]

In 1867, Abdülaziz, with his pehlivan janissary entou- rage, toured Western Europe and impressed French Empress Eugénie, wife of Napoleon III, who then uttered the expression “fort comme une Turc” (strong like a Turk).

[@KoroushRP]

One british man, lawrence of arabia ended your whole empire

[@KoroushRP]

Also jannisarys were not turks but europeans ethnically

[@coachbuzzkillington]

@@KoroushRP Cope harder buddy 😎

[@AhmetTugrulGUL]

​@@KoroushRP3m pakistanis live in london so wonder who really won

[@AhmetTugrulGUL]

​@@KoroushRPwho cares about their ancestry? they are royal to the Ottoman Throne and Islam thats all matters

[@anyoneattheendoftime4932]

34:40 - Excuse me, WHAT?

[@naghamdi]

Abdallah Pasha ruled Akko 'i worked on restoration of his palace

[@VergiliosSpatulas]

They weren't Islamic nations, they became as such due to the Orcs.

[@NP3GA]

I think I need to start writing names down

[@BountyFlamor]

34:40 The Soviets: "Tell me about it."

[@LORD_GOD67]

Second 2

[@Khalsafauj96]

You should make mention about how the British and Sikhs had planted shah shoja on the throne in 1839 and then entered Kabul and vassalized it in 1842 (it being a vassal to Ranjit singhs empire)

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

What did they do? They defeated them. Like the Indian law, it says that the Indians are just slaves to the Persian Aryans

[@Khalsafauj96]

@@عليياسر-ذ5بPersians who were slaves to Turks? Greeks? Arabs? Persians who ran away to India ? Please buddy.

[@Jalayir]

Être fort comme un Turc (‘to be strong like a turk’): This expression originates in the 15th century when the Turks had a reputation for being strong, almost unbeatable warriors due to their numerous victories. At the time, the Ottoman Empire ruled large parts of south-east Europe, north Africa and western Asia. It is said that François I, King of France, was gifted Turkish armour by Suleiman the Magnificent (the tenth and most famous sultan of the Ottoman Empire) during their alliance. When he wore it, he is said to have exclaimed: “Here I am now, strong as a Turk!”.

[@solyworld8443]

I wish that Egyptian empire go back into its land

[@zeazeaimm7922]

The conquest, the lands of pass conquest

[@youreright...1284]

more on the Sikh empire would be great

[@danielm6319]

Long before Ottoman Turks there was Umayyad Caliphate who invade Iberiam Pennisula first.

[@RaijinTheGreat]

brits must be held accountable for the countless warcrimes of their royal family

[@alfrancisbuada2591]

And the problems began here...

[@Gillio66]

I feel like colonized is the wrong word for European involvement in the Middle East.

[@Karkafs-Desiderium]

Not really

[@Gillio66]

I think there's a massive difference to the early European colonial era, 1500s - 1700s and European imperialism in the 1800s. The early wave focused on population replacement by European mass migration and intentional policies meant to eradicate local people and identities. European imperialism in the middle east was more focused on exploitation and subjugation, rather than replacement and traditional colonization. It's just a difference in definition, IMO. @@Karkafs-Desiderium

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

​@@Gillio66It is strange why the Europeans did not do as the English did and make the ruling authority help them

[@ALMoZaxa]

the map you showed of morocco is wrong bc at that time the sheriffian empire(alaouit dynasty) includes today's kingdom of morocco(the same alaouit dynasty) + shanquit (today's mauritania which was created and named by the french) + the eastern moroccan sahara (which the french took and added to french algeria ) + timbuktu

[@rachidbaa8364]

there is no real evidence of the great morocco the europeans drew morocco on the maps like this

[@AhmetTugrulGUL]

colonialism and conquest is not the same. Turks are not one ethnic group or pure. they mixed with many ex christian converts like georgians albanians bosniaks like myself

[@youngoutlaw5150]

Israel through the Americans

[@Game_Hero]

What does it have to do with the actual content of the video?

[@rauhau_]

:)

[@chichonk-7]

Error for French colonisiated algerian by embargos international many territory

[@claytonporter7878]

Information

[@solyworld8443]

Egypt was so strong

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Crusades gave Islam a slap back for doing it in the first place. History repeats

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

I did not know that Christians in the Middle East are infidels, so they launched a crusade against the Bulgarians, Romans, and European Berbers.

[@Nicola.M7]

Islam gave Crusaders a slap back for doing it first.

[@GAMER123GAMING]

History repeats? The descendants of the Crusaders are being enslaved for their crimes against Islam. Now, the question is who is responsible?

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@Nicola.M7 Islam can't slap. Islam is dead, time for Israel to shine.

[@patriklundvall3296]

yea i mean pretending that Arabs are not a colonizer is just wrong :D they not only colonized Greeks/Romans but also Armenians, Assyrians, Ethiopians & other sub african ethnicites. Before some random triggerd npc @ me. Do a definition of the word colonizer. Infact. Arabs were the very first to Colonize sub-sarah africans. Out of everyone in history & the very last to demolish it, only after International pressure, 1930 Saudi.

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

The intelligence of European Berbers is high

[@AhmetTugrulGUL]

​@@عليياسر-ذ5بis this why they speaking arabic right now? cause their "european genetics" lmao dude ı am cacacusian and ethnic georgian and speaking Turkish so who is more intelliengt? it is not about race.

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@عليياسر-ذ5ب Berbers aren't European

[@nicbahtin4774]

13:35 lol just like today, with the Jewish prisoners and the hew hate

[@HaloJumper7]

0 settler colonial lebensraum, all locals lived under one government&kept their identities&religions. Unlike Angloid Lebensraum that wiped out 60mln natives in North America alone&even forcefully banned German American language&traditions let alone US-Japanese concentration camps

[@dik943]

IMAGINE THE SMELL

[@issith7340]

Islam had colonized east Mediterranean. Don’t upside down history. Egypt and the Levant were the birthplaces of christianism, and in anatolia every and each antiquity, unearthed has inscriptions in the language of its real owner. You know that all are written in greek. So who colonised who? Don’t attempt to change history, cause history always will punish you.

[@NicholasHeiner-h6d]

Greeks and the Gauls colonized most of Europe, but times have changed since then.

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Nice. Well said

[@issith7340]

@@NicholasHeiner-h6d open a book to see what colonize means. People whi live somewhere fir mire than 3000 years, are not colonizers. They are the owners of the place. All history proves it. Holy wisdom talked, abs will go on talking. You are only rent your “country”. The owners are others.

[@NicholasHeiner-h6d]

@@issith7340 American Heritage Dictionary gives the following: 1. To form or establish a colony or colonies in. 2. To migrate to and settle in; occupy as a colony. 3. To resettle or confine (persons) in or as if in a colony. From my limited understanding, the Mycenaeans were the first settlers of what we would consider to be Greek territory today. They got pushed out partially during the Bronze Age collapse and by the Dorians from the upper Balkan area. The Dorians eventually created the Hellenistic culture often associated with Ancient Greece; Corinth, Thebes, Athens, etc. The exception I think being Sparta, but I’d fact check that. From here, many ancient Greeks founded settlements in areas that previously weren’t inhabited by Greeks. These include Emporion (Spain), Massalia (Marseille, France), Syracuse (Sicily), Kyrene (Libya), and Panticapaeum (Crimea), amongst numerous others. Regarding the Celts, I am admittedly less informed. I believe their origins were from Yamna and presumably migrated west into what is now considered Central Europe. Numerous different Celtic (La Tenne) tribes were in existence before their near extinction at the hand of the Romans. The Pictones and Arverni (France), Insubres (northern Italy), Lusitani (Spain), Iceni (Britain), Belgae (Belgium), Volcae and Boii (Germany, Czechia), Scordisci (Hungary), Nori (Austria), Galatians (Turkey), and the Dardani (Croatia, Serbia). There were countless more. Regardless of origin, when these groups settled into their new homelands, they would have qualified as colonizers. Although the Greeks followed the more common understanding of the term.

[@NicholasHeiner-h6d]

That being said, my initial comment was not meant to discredit your point. The Muslims kingdoms and Caliphates were certainly engaged in colonization from the beginning, if not traditional conquest.

[@Powersnufkin]

americans trying to understand history... lol

[@Game_Hero]

Triggered, much?

[@Powersnufkin]

@@Game_Hero Nah. im not american so i dont get triggered.

[@Game_Hero]

@@Powersnufkin That comment says otherwise.

[@Powersnufkin]

@@Game_Hero No it doesnt. Projecting much? lol

[@Game_Hero]

@@Powersnufkin Not really. Somehow that user being american makes them incapable of understanding history like any other human being according to you, what led to such a reaction must be offense with something they said.

[@Serefveomer.]

Ottomans never massacred Greeks in İstanbul. Please change it.

[@JabzyJoe]

Yes. Yes they did.

[@Juan-qu4oj]

Oh yeah because the ottomans totally didn’t do that to Christian populations before

[@lotcam4046]

​@@JabzyJoe reference?

[@JabzyJoe]

@lotcam4046 Constantinople massacre of 1821. There are dozens of sources, it's not a hidden event.

[@godofwarhammer7655]

First

[@LORD_GOD67]

Second 2

[@akaira700]

Please make a North Africa video

[@JabzyJoe]

?....This includes North Africa

[@akaira700]

@@JabzyJoe sorry I still watching the vid

[@animeroom2399]

​@@JabzyJoe it seems lacking as you delved more in Egypt and the levant political state prior to their colonization unlike the Maghreb

[@JabzyJoe]

@@animeroom2399 part 3 and 5 covers more of the background