Jack Crowley & The State of Irish Rugby Punditry 👀😡❌

[@RichardKingston-u5g]

Thank you for taking the trouble to make this video. It was refreshing to hear your comments as it was totally sickening to hear all about Sam Prendergast being ready to take over from Jack Crowley. Jack has already proved himself in the Irish shirt and his first half performance against Argentina was masterful, but unfortunately, we have too many pundits and journalists wearing the Leinster shirt.

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

Pleasure was mine pal haha thanks though!

[@ianjacobs2998]

👍👍👍👍

[@eamonkelly36]

Lets make it bad thing guys rivarly is good i see bandy legsas player for future no doubt im not so sure about dorries been captan his no ciaran fitz y if u can remember that far back😅😅

[@28copland]

Jack is a fabulous player but I think people feel Sam can Control a game more in the mould of sexton, no harm to have them both push each other for the 10 shirt

[@johnmcdonagh9336]

@@28copland Competition pushes them both to keep improving their game. Which is good for them. Good for their province and good for Ireland. Curious to see how it goes.

[@johnryan9587]

As a Munster fan first I disagree on this Leinster leaning narrative. Prendergast looks to have so much time on the ball. Immaculate timing. Going hard at the defence. All to prove but absolutely deserves his chance.

[@pauleire]

He makes space because he sits so deep, and lets the opposition know he is absolutely no running threat himself.

[@PDKFitness]

Respect for mentioning Forde. He's been phenomenonal at 10, 12, and 13 for Connacht.

[@aonghus3860]

They gave Crowley due praise after the second half, did you miss that? All the pundits said that he had been very good

[@eamonlyons8069]

But that doesn't make them cocksucking a guy who's done fuck all in green let alone blue acceptable.

[@a88senna]

While I love seeing new independent media trying to break into the scene, everything I've seen from this channel is so pro-Munster and anti-Leinster. Prendergast has a way higher ceiling than Crowley, I'm a Connacht fan and I always find it funny when it's referred to as the Dublin media, depsite Quinlan, O'Callaghan, and Lenihan being among the most heard people in the Irish media landscape. Also, Crowley has been grand, certainly not the worst player, but not a standout either. Some in Munster would have you believe he is in the 2nd coming of the Christ, when he's been found wanting many times in red and in green.

[@michealmccarthy4535]

Crowley is 24 and already has done more at 24, then both Sexton and O’Gara when they were 24. He’s by far and away the best 10 in Ireland. Prendergast needs to bulk up a good bit before he can even be considered to be a starter for province let alone country.

[@a88senna]

@michealmccarthy4535 he's done more because he's had less competition, Carbery did more by 24 than ROG or Sexton, and that meant Jack shit, Crowley isn't at that level, he's our best 10, but it's not a clear cut thing, and won't be for long. There's very few top teams in world rugby with a worse 1st choice 10, he's good, but he's not as good as we need. Of the six nations teams I'd take any starting from the other teams bar Wales.

[@DonalCanDance]

@@a88senna It also doesn't mean he will continue to develop. He has 50 Munster caps and 20 Ireland caps. Jackson had also done more than ROG or Sexton at a certain age, but it just meant he hit his ceiling earlier.

[@a88senna]

@@DonalCanDance that's exactly my point about Crowley. I don't think he'll continue to improve at the rate required, considering how he's plateaued already

[@michealmccarthy4535]

@@DonalCanDance Well Jackson was a total different scenario through stuff outside of rugby. Crowley is being massively disrespectful I feel over the past couple, is he perfect no but he is a lot better than the competition in Ireland currently and has led Ireland to a Six Nations championship in his first year as out half which isn’t bad going.

[@TheLaughingcrow]

Ulster fan here. Crowley has been great and the media discourse has been absolutely wild. Leinster players get chance after chance to develop in the green shirt. I had thought Crowley was going to buck that trend but no sooner does he establish himself as a baller in the Ireland 10 jersey than the knives come out. I can think of loads of Ulster players who never got forgiven after some "mistakes" (McCloskey for thowing an offload vs England - dropped for years, Burns for missing a kick to touch - dropped forever, Cooney ignored for telling JSex to get back in his box, Gilroy for scoring three tries on his debut - weird one that!)

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

Careful now, point out another few factually accurate disparities and you'll be accused of whining. Thrilled to see Ulster doing so well this season, another team with heart!

[@Iansguitarstuff]

Agree with most of that, but Burns genuinely gives me anxiety when he comes in the field 😆

[@phillipsugwas]

Crowley brought the game into disrepute behaving like an ejit- a b grade acting display.. With his acting injured ,clutching his head. That does not belong in rugby.

[@lizzyhanahoe4197]

@@phillipsugwas I would like to see how you would react after a contact like that?

[@christopheroconnell3479]

I Hope to see a few more ulster players in the squad soon in IZU and McCan, also young Wilson looks the real deal, but of course he got no mention from the scrum coach today about future props, all Leinster, Munster fan BTW

[@NiallMurray-j9z]

Great to hear such an unbiased assessment! 😂

[@Tellemore]

Well said!

[@colingibson5966]

Ha ulster fans have endured more than munster fans, we don't even get players in the squad or team now despite being the 2nd best province this year. Stockdale and mccloskey tearing up trees yet must of got lost on the way to training or something. Also let's play games on a Fri evening so only Dublins elite can attend, without taking a day off work 🙄

[@ciaranbrk]

That’s because Stockdale can’t defend. McCluskey is a very good player but he and henshaw that the same kind of player and you’re not going to drop Gary Ringrose Especially after that last performance against Argentina where he was robbed of man of the match

[@colingibson5966]

@ciaranbrk he can and does more going forward than lowe, just another leinster goggle eye. With all the resources these leinster guys get (all the irfu budget) still can't win the big ones. 3 finals no wins, qf no win, series in SA no win, big home game against NZ, no win. Seems no wins anyway but if Stockdale who is in form was playing we might not win 😂

[@fionncourtney5771]

Very well said lad the Leinster oligarchy has gone on too long

[@alankennedy2259]

Someone finally said it, it makes it feel like anyone but a Munster player

[@roryoneill9444]

Both Crowley and Frawley showed in several matches in the Green Shirt, how Ireland needs to add Drop Goals into the Irish arsenal and to actually put points on the board from kickable penalties instead of wasting opportunities trying for trys... we saw that in the All Blacks game and the New Zealanders won due to taking their points when presented. On that note, as a Munster fan..... they are poor this year.

[@alcoyne3333333333333]

Thank you Very much. Great to hear honest opinions.. I heard Bernard Jackman ( brilliant pundit ! ) 3 year's ago saying to watch out fir Sam. And i believe he is going to be a world great. But not for another few seasons. I'm old enough to remember Rog vs Humphries battle and of course Rog vs Johnny battle. I think ite brilliant to have both of them.. As for pundits. Virgin media is the worst rugby show ever especially with Joe Molloy and Matt Williams 😢😢 at the end of every game they straight away go for the click bait of the negatives even when Ireland win 😢😢

[@OscarOSullivan]

It reminds me of the discussion around Scott Penny vs John Hodnett for openside flanker for Ireland. I mean Jack Crowley and Sam Prendergast were let down by the other Ireland players who were the worst infringers. That is where Ireland has conceded most of the points so far in this November internationals. I think both Crowley and Prendergast have a similar ceiling. Crowley had a pretty good match as did Prendergast against Argentina. I despise the vitrol being aimed at Jack Crowley.

[@lizzyhanahoe4197]

I too despise all the malice towards Jack Crowley, totally unfair, however he comes across as someone who can shake it off to the ground (where it belongs) and get on with his game. I think he needs and deserves support from all the Irish team, and fans.

[@SlMiSe]

Nice video, but I don't really buy the argument. Matt Williams used to be the Ulster coach if I'm not mistaken. I'm also pretty sure when Jack Crowley was bossing it in the Six Nations last year, the pundits weren't calling for a Leinster outhalf to be put in. I think you can be genuinely excited about a young outhalf coming through and also think Jack Crowley is a good player. We need more than one well-tested 10, which was basically all we had going to SA in the summer. Having Crowley and Prendergast as viable options (And Frawley maybe) opens up more possibilities for a second playmaker, which we don't really have at the moment. It was Farrell himself who suggested that Crowley was lucky to hold onto his position after the NZ game. I'd also highly doubt that he's the kind of man who picks his team based on what he reads in the newspaper. How many people saw Mack Hansen as an international winger before Farrell threw him in? Crowley had a great first half against ARG but lost his way in the 2nd a little. He wasn't terrible by any means. He is still a fantastic player, but from his body language, he looks like he's carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. The current mess down in Munster definitely has set him up for success this Autumn.

[@michaelwalsh4316]

Matt Williams was LEINSTER “coach”. The other two Leinster players.

[@SlMiSe]

@ I know he was Leinster coach but that doesn’t mean he didn’t coach Ulster.

[@fergalosullivan2620]

Brilliant show Can't watch the TV pundits because to be frank they are rubbish. Won't/can't speak freely. Leinster are by far the best of the Irish provinces but to have 3 leinster personal as pundits is pathetic. Need balance. 4/5 players too old All were brilliant servants but its the main reason we not winning WCs. Need to develop young players

[@behindtheseeyesiseewhatyou8953]

As an American with limited news firsthand, I love this coverage. My great Grands were from County Clare and came to the USA in 1912. Don’t know much about my dad’s family, from Down. He had many drinking problems but they were from Down up north. I support the family I know so.. Munster it is! I was last in Ireland in 2006 when the last of my family leaving for NZ (we, All Blacks). I then fell in love while watching the Heineken Cup Semis. Munster be. Leinster. Damn was Dublin a buzz! We don’t have such passions here! I have been a follower since! Standing 6’3” 270 I would have been a great Prop, I chose Hockey and Judo . So the passion for Rugby has been one and obsession. I literally have no one to enjoy it with! None of my friend even give it a chance and choose American football. Sorry, Rugby is superior! Keep up the great work!

[@kjk1727]

just put the fries in the bag bro

[@standard12th66]

Great point. There was talks over having Ross Byrne over Crowley. Once it was undeniable, Frawley was put in. Now they are trying the same with Prendergast. It won't end

[@RichardKingston-u5g]

There was no doubt Prendergast showed his skills when playing for the Irish u 20's. However, during the week Farrell mentioned a bunch of players were lucky to hold their place after the NZ game and said Crowley was one of them. How unethical was that by not mentioning other names.

[@shanemoloney2141]

Frawley is decent, the Byrne brothers weren't. Pendergast has the most potential from all the Leinster players. But it's Crowley's shirt and he deserves it. International rugby isn't an armchair ride and it's harder to judge a player that is succeeding behind a dominant pack than it is to realise the talent of a player under pressure behind a pack on the back foot. I would have loved to see pendergast go learn his trade in Connaught.

[@dropdmacrossaint4039]

I'm glad even Ireland think their pundits are biased as hell.

[@shane163]

Video is spot on. Id love to see Prendergast get more minutes against Fiji, Crawley against Australia and keeping Crawley as our main 10 for the six nations.

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

100% agree!

[@shane163]

@TheKnock-OnEffect but I do also think this is Andy Farrell's plan. I see Crawley firmly as our number 10 for the time being. Dunno what the media are playing at

[@sheiladuignan7449]

I love how only a former Munster player or pundit is believed capable of having an ‘authentic’ opinion.. pot and kettle anyone!,

[@lawLess-fs1qx]

it comes from Farrell. Damns Crowley with faint praise and bigged up Prendergast after Argentina. Let me know when Ulster and Connacht reach the last 8 in the URC. We can take a look at their 10's. Personally sick of Donal Lenihan commentating on every big match. Can we not have someone from Dublin occasionally for balance 🙂

[@DM-rp9ik]

This is the truth. Listen to what he's saying and, more importantly, look at his actions the last 12 months. He knows Prendergast can get his team to the next level he's going to take it

[@kiaoragin]

Well said. I hope we end up with maybe 2-3 excellent 10's. Really liked Morgan in Ulster this year and could see him being capped at some point.

[@kjk1727]

very well said

[@SetantaBlue]

I don’t think it’s provincial bias, you might have some insecurities about that. They’re all Irish and the pundits are being objective. Compared to the others, Prendergast is more creative in attack, similar to how Sexton played, difficult to predict his next move. In the last game, he took the ball much more to the line than Crowley did and drew in more defenders, creating space on the outside. He just needs to fill out a little and get more experience

[@ockertkohne3835]

Interesting point of view. Refreshing to hear a real breakdown of the game and agree on most of your points. And can't disagree on the state of Irish pundits.

[@HAMROCK1]

Can’t say I know what the commentary was after the match ended as I immediately switch it off. Now I realise why I do.

[@mrheck5311]

Well said. Crowley is a terrific talent but he isn't given credit because he's not from Leinster.

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

Cheers pal 👍

[@readesiun988]

I don't agree, there have been many Munster players who have been given very high praise over the years ,ROG being just one example, where is the harm in having two or three 10s, Crowley very much got praise from those pundits including Matt Williams , as to why he is on VM God only knows. Andy Farrell is the one who pics the squad and decides who plays, regardless of what the Pundits or Media have to say.

[@johnmc3862]

@@readesiun988100% It’s more of a let’s knock Leinster video, some of it deserved sure. But Farrell is where the decisions are made and he’s a decent coach in fairness.

[@mrheck5311]

@@readesiun988 not true. Against NZ they were lumping Crowley's performance in with Frawley's performance. Against Argentina he was outstanding overall but the narrative is he was good in the first half, poor in the second half. That's pure BS. It was all Argentina in the second half when Crowley was on the pitch. He made a mistake but JGP's mistakes were not highlighted. Kelleher's throwing has gotten NO mentions, Lowes mistakes, Hansen's mistakes etc. Ireland got back into it when Prendergast came on and he was "excellent" even though the attack had no cutting edge compared to the first 40 min when they were running in tries. I'm not knocking young SP I'm highlighting the double standards. Also worth noting Crowley is only 24 himself.

[@phillipsugwas]

No, he's from Hollywood!

[@RubyJack1717]

There is huge debate and time spent discussing the outhalf position. Very little on where the team is actually struggling, the front 5, a hooker with a poor throw and a backrow that is either underperforming or under so much pressure from the failings in front of them that they spend much of the game scrambling to contain the opposition. Ruck ball was fast and clean for Park and Crowley in the 1st half V Argentina, they were able to impose themselves not so in the second half or for most of the NZ game.

[@TauCeti973]

Agreed, especially on the punditry. It is absolutely woeful and has been from the moment they start showing internationals on TV3. When IRL are on TV3, I tune into a foreign channel.

[@johnmc3862]

Tv3 now Virgin media is UK owned.

[@kjk1727]

Irish commentary is the best in the world though

[@foaly5]

I think Matt Williams is excellent personally. One of the better pundits on the Irish scene.

[@winterishere9828]

The director during the match was phoning it in.The amount of time the camera lingered for like 30s on one player's head during breaks in play was criminal, many of them were times when a replay was in order of which we got very few.

[@foreignwarren7361]

Three cheers for the Inishannon man!!!!

[@votedimascio]

I would love to see a channel bring on some talented youtube rugby commentators like yourselves for punditry. The 'formers' can often be so stale. English TV has been cursed with the 2003 squad never leaving. Clive Woodward spouting absolute nonsense. There's some great stuff on here with really smart folks providing real analysis and providing genuine insights

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

Cheers pal! Maybe some day! The overlap are doing some interesting stuff like that on sky with some premier league fans, wouldnt be surprised to see something similar with the rugby.

[@matthewhodgson7388]

Ah he has a higher potential than Crowley, not better at present but give him time

[@lizzyhanahoe4197]

First time visit to your podcast, very interesting take on things. I have subscribed 👍

[@festermcseptic]

be great if the 3 other provinces could step up and stop expecting Leinster to carry the load throughout the year

[@TonyWhite-s4c]

Ahh look, they did the same thing with ROG back in the day. While somehow ignoring the multiple trophies he was part of winning as well as the 2010 ERC European Player award which credited him as the player who had made the greatest contribution to European rugby during the first 15 years of the Heineken Cup. Yet all you heard out of Leinster was bleating about defensive frailties.

[@Brendan-m2g]

Great video....and accurate...👍

[@johnneylin831]

spot on, those toss pots never give credit where its due , at one stage they were all for Ross byrne , they know very little.

[@totallyblocked12]

I think i agree with your assessment that Frawleys bad 20 minutes against NZ means he can't handle the pressure of the playing as a 10 in international rugby. Obviously i have to ignore the fact that he played well against the World champs and knocked over a pressure drop goal to beat them in SA, 2 month after failing to hit a drop goal to win the European cup.

[@ciaranbrk]

No absolutely not he just had a bad game happens to the best nothing was going right for anyone in that game. We couldn’t string five passes together I think everyone expected him to come on and change everything and unfortunately just didn’t click for him . he has a big game temperament he just needs time and trust from Andy Farrell if nothing else it will put pressure on Crowley and make him constantly get better

[@markshields5883]

Prendergast like all Ireland's backs have no out and out pace we need to find wingers like that

[@seamusmcgrath8250]

Ahern for Ryan!

[@robbiee814]

I really hope you see the irony of you giving out about bias and then coming out and saying 'Crowley has been phenomenally impressive in the Autumn nations'. He was brilliant in the first half against Argentina but he's been pretty average for the other 80 minutes he's played and has been well off the level he was at during the 6 nations. Don't get me wrong, he is clearly Ireland's best choice at out half based off the last 12 months but you lose a lot of credibility by showing your Munster bias and not acknowledging that he's not at the level he was last season. That said, I completely agree with the point around VM's punditry. It's absolutely terrible and they need a more diverse set of views. And by that I don't mean Matt Williams who has completely lost the plot!

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

Oh I’m 100% biased 😂 phenomenally impressive - given his recent poor form at club level and the pressure on him. I honestly wouldn’t mind the Leinster bias if there was someone there arguing back. A bit of laughing and joking will always exist amongst the provinces but your right VMs punditry is a joke and very one sided!

[@ronanfurlong2708]

I don't believe many (if any) Leinster fans think Pendergast should be ahead of Crowley right now. Many of us do recognize however, a skill set and a ceiling in Sam that is potentially world class in years to come. We're the number 2 ranked side in the world but at present we have out half options that likely wouldn't get into the French, SA, NZ or even English teams. Hopefully Crowley and Prendergast develop rapidly from here, as neither is the finished article ..... but to get all defensive about people wanting to see Sam take the 10 jersey in the future, is not a great look tbh. If you want to focus in on a player who gets serious smoke blown up his backside by the media, then maybe start questioning what POM is bringing to the table these days (in both green and red)?

[@Dreyno]

@@ronanfurlong2708I don’t get it either. He’s first choice and had praise directed at him since he broke through. But he was bang average against NZ and only fairly decent against Argentina. He doesn’t own the shirt because he’s not so far ahead of his competitors like Sexton, Rog and Humphreys were in their day. The idea that Horgan or Kearney care about lads they never played with getting caps over Munster or Ulster players is daft. They’re calling it exactly like most people (who aren’t from Munster apparently) saw it.

[@Bushboybee]

I'm a Bok supporter and saw Sam Prendergast playing in SA in the under age world championship last year. Maybe I just caught him on a good day but I thought he was the most talented no10 I have seen in a long time. Been baffled that he took this long to make it to the bench. That said I can't comment on on the bias of the Irish press but I have noticed that Leinster tend to end up with all the big name players while some of the provinces seem to have less talent to work with. Maybe Irish rugby can look at better funding for these provinces (if that is a problem). Considering the situation at the time and the huge moment it was for him, I thought Sam did brilliantly, he took a hit, found his target with passes and offload and even had a go at breaking the line. No major mistakes and I was delighted for him. I do not think you can force a player like Sam on anyone, in fact I thought Farrell made a mistake by not bleeding him in the 6 nations. Sam and Jack will be the 10's at the next world cup I would rather see that developing from 2024 than 2026. Every match they miss from now is one less match of experience they will have in 2027. It should not be a contest of who is getting praised and who is getting pooped on, some players had a good game, some bad and everything in between. My highlight was seeing Sam out there because of what I expect he will do in future and I think many shared that excitement...it did not change how good Jack played. I can promise you in the changeroom after the game, everyone including Frawley would have made the biggest thing about the youngsters first outing.

[@Dreyno]

@@Bushboybee I think there were concerns about his physique. He’s a tall young lad (1.93m/6’4”) and has a bit of filling out to do. I also think they wanted to fine tune his defence. But I agree, he looks like the real deal and having all three of those guys competing can only be good for Ireland.

[@GordonDarker]

I think we could easily blow our next two games , line out and scrum are gone to shit, and the elephant in the room is oconnell and no one will mention it

[@kevinarenhold384]

Irish pundits are painful to listen to. They are not knowledgeable and just plain biased. As you say, they are there to discuss the game, not punt irish players. Horrible to watch if you are not irish

[@seanofarrell8896]

Rte ones are better than vergin media ones irish man saying thid

[@quinnsa27]

The Munster bias is strong with this one

[@matthewhodgson7388]

It's more the virgin punditry which is bloody awful

[@paddyhealy5192]

Great Stuff. This needed to be said. Jack is an exceptional talent and should be backed by his manager and not constantly undermined by FAZ and the D4 Media.

[@darragho6358]

Maybe if he could actually play within the system better. He's a moments player with poor game management

[@patrickkelly4506]

We’re not England. We stand boy are boy’s. If they have a spell of bad games. So be it. There good enough to find there way back to the top. Stick with your boys

[@raymondforrestall3991]

I only hope David Humphrey's can get a handle on this before it does lasting damage! I'm an Irish fan and admire all our provinces!! This is a media driven Leinster bias & could do untold damage too both Jack Crowley & young Prendergast! Until Crowley hits poor form the jersey should be his to lose, not what province he represents! Not good....

[@lorem16]

If you can't see the difference in class between Prendergast and Crowley then you don't know the sport. Crowley is a top 10, Prendergast can surpass Sexton. It's nothing to do with Leinster.

[@shanemoloney2141]

Yeah from 1 penalty kick Ross Byrne became amazing. He was never even close to being good. The Byrne brother would only worsen any club they go too for lack of ability to play outside and armchair ride! We're seeing it again However these new guys have at least talent

[@fatsoblitz]

This drivel is sadly so endemic to the Munster fan base. Absolute rant.

[@LeMerch]

You’re basically saying you know better than Farrel. 😂

[@barthettema3727]

What is Matt Williams doing on the panel

[@kookvision9295]

Relax dude, is just a few lads throwing around a ball.

[@DarrenC83]

What a thing to say about Andy Farrell! You believe a huge reason Frawley 'shot up' was because of pressure from the media?! What are you talking about?! Also, there's no panic or rush to get a 'Leinster' player in. Frawley is clearly the second best choice we have at 10 at the moment. You claim the media coverage is biased yet your whole video is.

[@johncreedon7847]

Leinster is what's wrong with irish rugby. Leinster have bottled so much in the last few years and it rubs off in the irish team. That underlying question mark in the big pressure games .aka the world cup. We need more crowleys..more munster connaught and ulster talent and less leinster hype trains. It's got us nowhere when it really mattered .

[@Tereyoc]

Crowley is the first choice, but pulled off some shocking kicks v new Zealand. But the ball he was getting from the forwards, was akin to the last shite coming out of the dying animal. Forwards don't look very fit, line out is pathetic. Frawley should be played at 10 in Leinster he is good enough. Pendergast didnt play well for Leinster when be started and doesn't look great defending Catal Forde is the in form centre so far this season and he didn't make the training squad.

[@bigjolly1000]

Nice

[@ianjacobs2998]

Those Podcasters are totally 🤮💩💩I agree with you! From SA🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@strekk1486]

Crowley played well in the first half, and kicked all his goals, but hes lacking confidence and he had some errors, that kick out on the full came at a bad moment. Predergast looked very comfortable when he came on and deserved praise, he's a definite rival for Crowley. Also you are talking some nonsense in this video, Frawley has been playing 10 consistently for Leinster this season, his terrible mistakes against new zealand werent the product of lack of games ther

[@mrheck5311]

You've just proved what the video is about. Can't bring yourself to say Crowley had a quality game. Prendergast looked comfortable but Ireland looked blunt when he was pulling the strings. Not saying it was down to SP but a little perspective is needed.

[@strekk1486]

So you're telling me.. people from Leinster aren't allowed have opinions? You may not have read my comment so let me make it shorter for you - Crowley played well in the first half, he made mistakes in the second half.. his days are numbered though 😂

[@DM-rp9ik]

Nothing to do with Crowley he was good. More to do with who's behind him. Prendergast could be a generational player, Farrell can see it and wants to move that process forward as quickly as he can.

[@oisinfitzgerald5401]

Come on now. Frawley got his time at 10 because of what he did to South Africa. He had a bad game vs NZ and he was gone the next game for Prendergast. Prendergast got his chance because he earned it and Frawley didn’t for Argentina. Crowley is still starting 10 any day of the week, but I don’t recall any pundit saying he would be dropped for Prendergast like you’re making out. Let’s also not get ahead of ourselves, he wasn’t great vs NZ (don’t think anyone was), and he was starting to falter in that second half against Argentina, although he did have a great game up until then. Your video stinks of sour grapes here

[@fionnmckool]

Load of bollix, no player ownes his jerseys, there must always be competition and someone pushing you. O'gara and sexton get there on merit, Crowley has not done enough yet to own the 10 jersey.

[@Podge2285]

The commentary is terrible at times but what you expect with ex leinster players tho ..

[@eamonkelly36]

I think youre missing the piont mate crowley is prettygood but he needs to bark more at his players too nice go up the line play old school😅😅

[@Chris-vw8yj]

A biased pundit giving out about other biased pundits

[@Camcolito]

Don't know about this one man. Overall, Crowley was solid but not spectacular, started well and then dropped off significantly. Frawley had a shocker against NZ but Crowley wasn't great either. Frawley was then deservedly dropped. Not seeing any Leinster bias there. I don't think Farrell pays attention to "media pressure". He picked Frawley because he saw potential where the Leinster coaches didn't. Prendergast had a great debut. I don't agree with this "earn your stripes" mentality you alluded to. This is one of the things holding Ireland back and why we have people still in the squad wasting space like POM instead of better and improving players getting minutes. Agree that there should be some more representation from other provinces re pundits and that some pundits are bad (don't like Rob K or Shaggy at all), but the fact is Ireland's team is dominated by Leinster players largely on merit.

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

Think we’d largely agree. I do think Crowley has been very undervalued though. The “earn your stripes” mentality doesn’t necessarily mean that you have plug away for years but you should at least be consistently performing at club level. I’d also love to see players being moved up a level quicker! A bit of variety in punditry would be a welcomed change alright! And your right the players all earned their place by merit! Truth be told I actually quite like Frawley and Prendergast.

[@Camcolito]

@@TheKnock-OnEffect Fair, have a subscription, don't spend it all in the one shop! Virgin Media in general is pretty bad. Kearney is unbearable especially. And I can't stand Joe Molloy but many seem to like him.

[@MrRoryG]

Okay, I'm a Munster fan so take this with a pinch of salt if you want but I felt the exact same watching this punditry. It's not that I think Crowley was brilliant but it feels like the pundits are dying for someone to take his spot, when it's fairly unjustified. Matt Williams is the most guilty tbh, gives out about him non stop. First Byrne should be playing, then Frawley and now Prendergast. Leinster boys definitely don't get the same sort of treatment. Doris' performance as a captain should have been highlighted in those 2 games but it wasn't, you know full well they'd be questioning POM if it were him. p.s. I'm a big fan of Doris, just saying.

[@TheKnock-OnEffect]

@@MrRoryG spot on!

[@Camcolito]

@@MrRoryG That's fair enough. For what it's worth, I think Crowley has done very well and deserves the jersey unless and until someone can take it off him. That should go for every jersey. Yeah Doris is definitely finding his feet as captain, remains to be seen whether it will suit him long term.

[@jamesgill6213]

let me guess.........you are from Munster

[@johndview653]

Boo hoo Munster victim again

[@mikeholland3095]

🧌

[@Lixsna]

Toxic leinster poisoning Irish sport yet again. West Brits by name, west Brits by nature.

[@WetSands]

C'mon people, get along. We're all part of the same tiny island...

[@DM-rp9ik]

Yeah, earn your stripes and move up? It's ignoring the elephant in the room. What if some players are just exceptional. They won't be playing AIL if thry can win Ireland games

[@ToriOBrien-t5b]

You clown, you must be blind, Crowley was outstanding against Argentina, and got zero praise, Prendergast doesn't have the mentality, should have got a red against Fiji. Very nearly cost his team. Crowley runs the show against Australia, won his first Full Cap, when Poor Old Johnny got hurt😂😂

[@peteys2006]

Another Munster podcast having a whinge that everyone else is against Munster. Does every Munster season ticket come with it's own podcast?

[@tomgreene1843]

You forgot gender balance ?

[@DonalCanDance]

You are guilty of what you are accusing the Irish pundits of (bias!). Any reasonable rugby fan could see Crowley has had a mixed start to the season for Munster. He has made errors, like kicking balls dead under no pressure. Most fans would understand that as part of a Munster team generally underperforming, that is understandable enough, even if not ideal. To say he didn't put a foot wrong v NZ, when the whole Irish team, including him, were sloppy in possession, is just inaccurate. He had a good first half V Argentina, kicked a ball dead in the second half, threw a pass to grass, kicked away one ball we should have kept in hand, and gave away a sloppy pen for a tackle in the air in the second half. It was not as bad as Frawley's 20 minutes the previous half, but it wasn''t a good 20 for Crowley. Crowley, so far, is not in the top tier of international 10's, (none of the irish 10's are). Marcus Smith and Ntamack are about the same age and have qualities he doesn't have so far. I think the Irish management understandably are keeping their options open.

[@MoxyInxs-xv6qe]

No toughness acting injured to have a puma get a yellow. Didn’t even get hia

[@barthettema3727]

The way he falls about and shams he should be playing football.

[@johnmc3862]

So Virgin media(which is UK owned) is the be all and end all of Irish punditry? It’s too Leinster biased for sure.

[@Dreyno]

I had a long and reasoned answer typed out and I deleted it because this is pure shite. Crowley has been lavished with praise since he’s taken the 10 shirt but he was a bit shite against NZ and only decent against Argentina. End of. If he played like he did earlier in the year nobody but nobody would be questioning his place. Finding bias where it doesn’t exist is Munster’s greatest talent.

[@paulcostello1807]

Quite possibly. Just before the World Cup the two kiwi lads on the podcast "Two Cents Get Distracted" said he reminds them of Dan Carter and that he was a class prospect. Farrell is just giving Prendergast experience and possibly putting a rocket up Frawleys arse he may get another chance

[@andydevereux2195]

Pure bias bullshit , youve distanced alot of potential listeners

[@28copland]

Aidan Morgan def shud get a cap soon fine player

[@Gorilladome4664]

Crowley was a disgrace in the Argentina game...utter disgrace. Soccer like academy award antics, rolling around on the ground to milk a minor incident...but a sudden and miraculous recovery, get up NO HIA ASSESSMENT! Argentina loses their game winning try...Crowley no HIA and then like a minute later, crashes the line to score a try! WOW what a recovery....Crowley should be ashamed and so should Ireland...are we playing soccer or rugby?????? Lets fake injuries...gain advantage and cheat our way to a winning outcome! That's why you never make it out of the first round of any world cup....cuz you have no heart!

[@pauleire]

Thats explains why he was bleeding from his nose then.

[@Gorilladome4664]

@@pauleire Why wasnt he assessed for an HIA if he was so badly hurt from that collision that he was, as you say, bleeding from the nose? What a joke.

[@pauleire]

@ I’m not a medical professional, neither is he. Are you?

[@Gorilladome4664]

@@pauleire You are right Im not a medical professional. I'm just a guy watching a rugby game, not a soccer game...we shouldn't be encouraging players to cheat in order to gain advantage. If he was legit injured that badly...go off and get an HIA assessment. Player safety right? Not get up after crying...and score a try a minute later. Shameful.

[@pauleire]

@ so he’d have to have a brain hemorrhage for you to be happy. Grand so.

[@sandorclegane3658]

I thought this was going to be about the Irish always talking themselves up, and thinking they're the best. I mean, your annual competition has Wales, Italy, and Scotland in it lol not exactly stiff competition. But carry on paddy

[@StephenG-kw1lp]

Oh, you forgot France and England. They don't matter, I guess. Carry on Mr Afrikaans.

[@sandorclegane3658]

@StephenG-kw1lp read my comment again. Put the Guinness down. Think about what you read. Read it again. Now go fetch the nearest Englishman and have him explain my comment to you. If you're still struggling, leave another comment and I'll explain further.

[@StephenG-kw1lp]

@sandorclegane3658 I did read it, but you're obviously a complete spaz. A mongrel blow in spawn, like your colonial ancestors

[@StephenG-kw1lp]

@sandorclegane3658 and it's way too early for guinness sandor, lol.

[@darragho6358]

Sorry but Crowley's game management is shit. I'd argue you're extremely bias in this situation. Crowley has not shown wisdom beyond his years and his moment to moment decision making has been very poor. Alao against the all blacks frawley was obky struggling under the high ball really. And Crowley was poor all game long before that, he deserved no priase for that game

[@pauleire]

🤣

[@mrheck5311]

@@darragho6358 yet all Ireland's points in the 2 games came with Crowley on.

[@ciaranbrk]

I can smell the munster horse shit from a mile away. Here is a hard facts and you’re going to hate them Munster at the moment are abject. The fact that you have two players in the squad is a minor miracle. Frawley is then thrown in after a very poor performance from Crowley and told change the game for us. Obviously they threw him in cold expect the bloody miracle and he has a rough game. He will be back and more than likely unless Jack up his game and becomes a world-class 10 he will find himself out in the cold. I will give him credit though he’s definitely worked on his place kicking. He’s getting better at taking the ball to the line but is kicking out of hand needs to get better. He was like a stag in headlights against New Zealand just kicking the ball to Will Jordan. He is improving though and it’s good that there is pressure on him that will make him better.

[@pauleire]

Hang on, it was Crowley's fault Frawley was so shit? That's impressive. Ireland were winning when he went off, didn't score in the past two games when he went off, in fact have only scored 6 points without him on the field in 9 games. Hard facts.

[@daniellonergan4498]

Bro, I am munster through and through…. But the reality is Crowley is pretty average. I was singing his praises but he really hasn’t lived up to the expectation.. yet There is still time for him, but remember when Sexton exploded onto the scene from very early on we knew he was a great talent. Jack Crowley seems to go missing and doesn’t seem to move the backs around the field with authority also his phase player is a little weak. Prendergast actually was fantastic when he came on and credit where is due he is looking like a lot more of an exciting factor talent

[@mrheck5311]

@@daniellonergan4498 Crowley went missing and Prendergast was fantastic. How many points did Ireland score with Prendergast on? I'll give you a hint, it's less than 1. Munster fan my arse. 😂

[@daniellonergan4498]

@mrheck5311 is a requirement of a Munster supporter to be deluded and biased?? I am a big fan of Jack. Why in the world would I not be? I'm also a big fan of the national team having strength and depth and being able to compete with the best If you're happy with Crowley moving forward and think his abilities are worthy of winning a world cup perhaps you need to keep dreaming Johnny sexton dragged Ireland into being a world-class side with his stubbornness talon and ruthlessness.. I'm not knocking Jack Crowley. I think he has a lot of talent. I have been raving about him but in the six Nations he was hit and miss the all blacks game. He went missing completely and against Argentina. He had a good first half Prendergast in open play looks a lot better. Slicker hands, more athletic and a bit more imaginative Crowley seems to be playing the same safe passes through the hands and first phase after which he doesn't seem to create a second, third or fourth option with sexton. You had no ends to the options. Multiple support lines setting up to 3/4 attack phases. It's up to you if you want to look at the facts or just be biased. Is Crowley is young. I have no doubt he will mature and grow into the role but he needs to be pushed. Let's not pretend Munster are a world class outfit prendergast is training and around champions. Iron sharpens iron my friend