Jacque Fresco - Free Will - Nov. 2, 2010

[@CristianKirk]

Thank you Jacque for saving my life...

[@6XstringXsamurai]

My wife and I were watching a documentary on body modification, and this guy had little magnets implanted in his fingertips and forearms and other parts of his body. Over time he has developed a 6th sense of being able to feel magnetic fields and frequencies. His body has begun to tune in to this new sensory connection. Pretty interesting.

[@MindfulBodybuilding]

Awesome

[@star-stuff]

That's extremely enlightening! Glad I watched it.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

Thanks for sharing 🙂 Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)

[@philipz308]

We call for a straightforward approach to the redesign of a culture, in which the age-old inadequacies of war, poverty, hunger, debt, environmental degradation and unnecessary human suffering are viewed not only as avoidable, but totally unacceptable. The Venus Project is a veritable blueprint for the genesis of a new world civilization, one that is based on human concern and environmental reclamation. One fundamental premise is that we work towards having all of the Earth’s resources as the common heritage of all the world’s people. Anything less will simply result in a continuation of the same catalog of problems inherent in the present system.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

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[@njhbeats]

Thanks Jacque, you make it so easy to understand

[@hriscucristianioan9421]

I know that free will Doesn't Exist ... is just a number of information given to us to Process it then give results , I wished to meet you in this life ... but the meeting is not lost , good life to all 🙃

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

Thanks for sharing Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)

[@hriscucristianioan9421]

@@TheVenusProjectGlobal my way of sharing this thoughts are straight to the individual ... it is harder than talks to masses ... but how do we know the easier way until we not practice or try it the hard way ... polarity law and so on.

[@hriscucristianioan9421]

Polarity law is just one of them (all 7) ... when someone know how to manoeuvre them , then that project or whatever the individual do in his life will succeed faster than others ... I barely manoeuvre two of them , understanding the process and so on ... human beings are pretty limited in developing Entities because of missing information , lot to say but I will resume here , succes in your project.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

@@hriscucristianioan9421 thanks for your reply. I am not familiar with what you mean by 'polarity law' (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

[@justgeorge2567]

It's talking about the Seven Natural Laws through which everyone and everything is governed. They are the laws of : Attraction, Polarity, Rhythm, Relativity, Cause and Effect, Gender/Gustation and Perpetual Transmutation of Energy.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

@GCGiorn influence is a force.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

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[@mebhisntatownie]

@@TheVenusProjectGlobal would jesus christ agree with the venus project

[@GeorgeTVP]

@MrIzzy In other words, the decision to protect yourself by shooting someone, even if the conflict is a minor one, was made one someone bullied you or called you names. A person who was never bullied or was raised in an environment where conflicts were resolved by discussion will find it really difficult to pull out a gun and shoot someone in the face. Our society finds violence entertaining and normal..and it is to them. But what kind of society do people wish to live in. People reflect culture

[@chadinterrupted]

@GCGiorn I can only speak for myself but I'm in a very similar situation Fresco was in maybe when he was my age so I think I can answer your questions about why he "chose" to seek knowledge. The reason I follow in this same path is through pleasure. I want to live in an environment that is easy to survive in because it is more pleasurable than living in a cave somewhere. I was exposed to things that helped me realize the power of the scientific method, therefor I follow it.

[@enlighteneveryone]

@GeorgeTVP Yeah. it's very important to have his more influential videos be at the front. It allows people to feel more attracted to the project. Most of the volume seems to be on KZbin. And we all know about KZbin... people will watch, and forget (it's like a natural thing + experiences of personal life). But with people directly going to the website, they get the same vibe but probably more because they're actually at the site they long heard about.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

@GCGiorn not true, every step you take is forced by your background. It's never a choice. Fresco had a particular set of circumstances that drove him toward physical sciences, engineering, human behavior, etc.

[@GeorgeTVP]

This was just what I needed. I had my professor tell me that there is a difference between a psychopath and nazi soldier who murders jews. He said a nazi murderer is due to their moral values and a psychopath "there's a medical definition". He said the same thing when I said Dick Cheney was a psychopath.

[@andrewlilley3660]

I think this man was a true asset to mankind, however, I find his simplistic ideas that we are a product solely of our environment incomprehensible, we are not, these circumstances may have a profound influence on how we turn out, but to think that if only everyone had the right start in life there would be no crimes committed is ludicrous, human beings are far more complex than that! We would always have the psychopath, for instance, these people are entirely uninfluenced by their environment or upbringing, and these types would be wolves among sheep in Fresco's society, and that's just one example of why his utopian ideas would never work!

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

Are you saying psychopaths are born as baby psychopaths? (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

[@andrewlilley3660]

@@TheVenusProjectGlobal Yes!

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

@@andrewlilley3660 What is the data/evidence/proof for those claims? (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

[@andrewlilley3660]

@@TheVenusProjectGlobal I can't provide proof, but neither can you provide proof to the contrary, thanks.

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

@@andrewlilley3660 scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=babies+born+evil&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1682020584803&u=%23p%3DpkwrGW9XNMsJ www.jstor.org/stable/asianeth.75.2.397 (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

[@chadinterrupted]

@GCGiorn Humans react to stimuli. If their sensors sense pain, they try something new until it feels good. Overtime humans learn new things and pass these experiences down to the new generations who continually have a head start as generations continue. Whatever Jacque was exposed to lead him to where he is today. The reason I support TVP even if it likely won't benefit me in my lifetime is because I KNOW that it can, but I also know it never will if I join the ignorance club and turn away.

[@asobu000]

Hey are you alive?

[@gt42636]

There's a difference between ''a force'' and ''being forced''.

[@mitkoogrozev]

Colloquially , yes. People use the terms as if there is a difference. But the difference they suggest isn't there. Usually they say that you are ''being forced" only when you do things you don't like, or under the motivation of threat. Like for example, if I tell you to eat some food you hate eating, while holding a gun to your head. Generally speaking people would say that what they are doing is "against their will'' or ''being forced'' in this case. But if there is no gun, and you are just hungry somewhere at a place you are most happy in, like lets say your home, and your favorite food is present, when you eat that, people would say it's because they freely chose to. But you see, causally in both cases there are physical forces manipulating your behavior one way or another. You have been taught to like certain foods based in the culture you grew up in, and then the presence of stomach pain causes you to move to the fridge. You have been also taught to respond to the hunger by moving to the fridge because of past conditioning as well. You've been taught that a fridge is a place where consistently you will find food. And then after you open the fridge, your favorite food has particular shape, color , dimension etc. You've been taught to visually discriminate how your favorite food looks. The reflected light from your favorite food hits your retina, which forces signals up to your brain, which causes your arms to move in the direction of the food to grab it etc. See what I mean? This is part of what Jacque is talking about in this video to the degree that I understand it.

[@necridos]

@osheaad Then listen to his public lectures outside the VP. He encourages people to ask him questions, and if they don't understand his logic he encourages people to question him further. "Each person chooses in the likeness of his ego" Jacque agrees, and he also explains how this ego is developed, and how each choice is made off the logic developed by this ego.

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

that different parts of the brain are activated which show what your choice will be when asked to press a cople of buttons randomly = push a button when you make adecision then tough then touch the button you have decided on - the ultimate decision was determined several seconds before you push the i have decided button - even when people upon finging this out try and fool it - i e change thier decsion at the last moment - the ultimate decision is still refected seconds before -

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

i think enviromental conditioning and operant conditioning plays a large role in our values and behaviors this can be overcome with reasoning if you are educated enough we are no more than what we have learned and often less - however the lack of freewill is more fundamental - it ours inability to freely choose even among things that are not affected by values - like red ball or blue ball - our actions are electro chemical response - until those are self directed we cant choose -test are showing

[@enlighteneveryone]

@enlighteneveryone also, IE: in 9:20 when he mentions yellow spots: actually can enlightn ppl directly to racism. Not all (x) are what the person you previously had bad experiences from. It leads to defensive stereotyping, and can later transform into offenve stereotyping. IE:would be many minority communities, who were ever oppressed and react twenty years later (children of the oppressed and living in mostly poverty for few more generations). He speaks in volumes, which can sound like rambling

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

i dont deny the values and operant conditioning are controling factors in our behavior - i only point out that choices that are irelevant to any values or conditoning are registered in different parts of the brain before you acknowledge you have nade them - these are lad tested results - i got them second hand though -so i wil try and find the source experiments for you

[@isaacbarratt854]

There are flaws to your theory It was from our capacity to find new uses for emotions of great utility that the notion of free will was extrapolated Furthermore, there exists an impulse to explain: but whether or not we explain in favour of or against something is subject to valuation With regards to belief multiple truths can exist: it is painful to care it is also painful not to care, which should you believe? It is true that i both love my mum and hate my mum, both are true, which should i believe Seemingly it makes rational sense to believe in whatever thing provides the greatest advantage, it makes logical sense to believe in whatever gives you pleasure As demonstrated: when creating meaning or prioritising truths there is choice involved Let us assume that it is too painful to believe in the thing that gives me pleasure, thereby i choose to believe the thing that makes me miserable, only now may we doubt our capacity for free will, which seems to be mediated by a capacity to endure emotional resistance when encountered: eg, our capacity to endure places upon us limitations Let us also consider morality: is it self imposed, why are we altruistically so myserable, by choice? Morality would rob us of this notion, morality is adherance to a rule But at any time we may change the explanations and rules we live by that seemingly placed limitations upon our horizon as individuals and as a species A strength of will is required to endure harsh truths: not all people have the strength of will and are thereby not at liberty to act to their own advantage or believe the things that bring us pleasure

[@isaacbarratt854]

If an impulse to explain and create meaning exists why does not everybody create explanations that bring them pleasure: why the joy, glee and vexations of the artist

[@isaacbarratt854]

Exaustion mean that the will is lacking Frustration means that the will was resisted

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

Can you please put the flaws in the summarised number form so we can respond efficiently? Ie. 1,2,3 etc (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

[@DreGotHandz]

Whenever someone responds using fancy language and long windedness, its just a bunch of B.S

[@isaacbarratt854]

@@DreGotHandz did you actually read it or are you just making an assumption

[@timonsanchez3347]

How many do we need to follow the examples of TVP and what subjects do we need to study to make it possible? don't wanna wait no more, he died years ago now, he turns in his grave we didnt do anything yet with this.. how can we watch this and continue talk? not do? what is the DO, and what to do?

[@bluntpunk83]

humans have some sort of manual override mechanism. to use JFs example, you could choose to not avoid the yellow spotted person. you cannot chooss the set of variables presented to you but you can choose from the set. your gut reaction as to what choice to make is of course dictated by environmental factors, however humans have the free will to go against instinct.

[@SorenK1987]

I get that our choices are determined by our environment, but what determines the environment in-itself?

[@TheDethBringer666]

I've put a magnet against the side of my head before and I could feel the slight magnetic pull on the metals within my head. Just something random I remembered, not important.

[@GeorgeTVP]

Joel, could you recommend the web developer of the Venus Project website to have these videos in the front page? I think some people don't know about these videos on youtube.

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

@MrIzzyDizzy its a variant of libets experiment im discussing - as far as the example you site - it would reflect a value you have about human life

[@lIIIIlllllIIIllI]

Por favor, seria alguien tan amable de subtitularlo al castellano?:)

[@Ramiromasters]

@bluntpunk83 As humans we enjoy multiple systems but still that does not count as free will. If you chose not to avoid yellow, then its obvious that your conditioning to suppress that feeling was bigger than the one from avoiding him. Think about this, guy from a generation of doctors about to graduate, last day he quits and become a car salesman, just to prove he has free will, would that be proof of free will? or was he a slave of his emotions to prove his point?

[@Herbarius]

@heymodi if you had added "I am a" in front of that, you would have created a (linguistic) paradox.

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

@GeorgeTVP watch?v=N6S9OidmNZM - is a video on a similar experiment - its finding were six seconds prior to your decison it is reflected in your brain - ie different areas are lighting up which show what your decision will be

[@necridos]

@6XstringXsamurai What documentary is this? This sounds cool

[@timonsanchez3347]

How do i reference to this ? as in an essay ?

[@hybrid212]

@AshRNand he's 95, he'll turn 96 in march.

[@laitela01]

@michael0001able Or, two people were influenced by dislike button.

[@GeorgeTVP]

@MrIzzyDizzy The ultimate decision was not made seconds before. Everything you know and experience adds up to that point of your decision making system. If you were bullied as child and you learned by films, comic books or books in general that you can protect yourself if you learned how to fight then later you decided to use guns to protect yourself. When you confront a person physically the decision to pull out a gun and shoot someone is much easier to do because of your background.

[@blackpanther6389]

Someone ask him about the ball thing and the cliff. He said he had theories on that, I'm really interested in what those theories are. Imagine this mans brain talkin about some shit like that lol!

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

@GeorgeTVP sorry i responded without directing it at you - its the response just below this 1

[@ZaGoudou]

Is that an onion on Jacque's belt I see? 🤟😁❤

[@ZaGoudou]

Seriously though. I've been a fan of him and his ideas as well as Roxanne and TVP in general ever since I first learned about them years ago. I definitely recommend visiting Venus and taking the tour!

[@L6FT]

That was a long winded way of saying, free will is not really a free choice, as we are conditioned and limited by our circumstances.

[@jhigh107]

Be cool if they can get Jacque to guest star on the Big Bang Theory

[@bluntpunk83]

@Ramiromasters id say thats a case foro free will

[@enlighteneveryone]

@temporos lol I can tell you lost track to what he's saying. It happens kind of, and he also a lot of times say it's best to learn by asking them to repeat. Not speaking to you offensively. Everyone have different periods of learning or span of attention on certain things not of their original or natural interest (Ithink Socrates says this also). I had the same experience with a some speeches, but we can re-watch them all. After a second watch and other vids, you'll find enlightenment my friend.

[@kzabost]

Oh... I must to learn english more.

[@asobu000]

Hey you gone?

[@fitzerg]

13:04 About Morality

[@93krstn]

My favorite part, you can change your lifelong perspective listening to Fresco.

[@ThatIsWhatYouGet]

And maybe those different environments don't need to be real, maybe through questioning everything you can realize other environments are possible. So this is a weird subject.

[@enlighteneveryone]

Near 9:20 can remove racism.

[@mattheffernan4854]

None of this can account for the belief in Jesus Christ. Jesus teaches us to reject the world to abstain, to forgive, to love thy neighbor like thy self... Christ Is LORD

[@ThatIsWhatYouGet]

I don't fully agree with this. I think the environment affects you specially when you don't know about other environments. I said no all over my life to thousands of things about the environment I was raised in, things my parents told me, just many things. I think somehow, If you are awake, you can feel and think what you want and what you don't want about the environment you are living in. So I guess knowing about different environments is what really gives you the freedom to chose.

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

A good lesson but too disorganized when compared to his others.

[@6XstringXsamurai]

@necridos It's just called "Modify" It's on Netflix streaming. It's mostly about tattooing and body piercing but it shows some really brutal breast implant surgeries and other stuff. It definitely doesn't hold back. Another forewarning - there's a lot of dicks in it! haha, as in pierced, split, tattooed, and mutilated wieners. I'm not sure why but yeah...tons of dicks. lol

[@michael0001able]

two people were influenced by their environment to click the dislike button :-]

[@7shukur]

Why is no one challenging him?

[@TheVenusProjectGlobal]

These ideas/proposals are challenged daily. I observe it frequently through all social media platforms (Peter Tvp Volunteer)

[@Superlongevityinstitute]

SHOW ME YOUR LIBRARY

[@TheMidwestsk8ter]

@DaveTheRave234 i already did lol

[@WayneWilberforce]

BORING

[@salvadorvalladolid2076]

He seems possessed and robotic.

[@Superlongevityinstitute]

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