James Bond Actress Calls for Female 007 and Volunteers Herself for Role - ScreenRant

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Exclusive: A former cast member from a prior installment of the enduring James Bond series voices support for a female 007 and expresses willingness to assume the iconic role.
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@cyrellgrimes9300
@cyrellgrimes9300 17 күн бұрын
Just make a female spy movie it doesn't have to be a 007 movie, just a good spy movie....
@ScottJPowers
@ScottJPowers 16 күн бұрын
maybe with a female spy known as Black Widow, or something
@alm2187
@alm2187 16 күн бұрын
Good thinking, although the handling of her movie was unfortunate too, @@ScottJPowers 🫤
@mf9309
@mf9309 16 күн бұрын
Or like Gina Davis in The Long Kiss Goodnight.😉
@anvil3589
@anvil3589 16 күн бұрын
Atomic blond
@wolfecanada6726
@wolfecanada6726 16 күн бұрын
Halle Berry as Jinx.
@amirhamedani1982
@amirhamedani1982 17 күн бұрын
In the immortal words of Eric Cartman: put a chick in it and make it lame!😂
@gordongecko555
@gordongecko555 17 күн бұрын
Make female James Bond also gay, plz...
@forcestarartemis6805
@forcestarartemis6805 17 күн бұрын
​@@gordongecko555i told them !! I knew female were take the males jobs . But no one ever believed me😭
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
​@@forcestarartemis6805that's because you were making excuses for being a lazy, useless bum. 😂
@scottymacdewder5229
@scottymacdewder5229 17 күн бұрын
I call for a male "buffy the vampire slayer", and a pale AF ginger Black Panther in the MCU.
@alm2187
@alm2187 16 күн бұрын
Bucky the Vampire Slayer is a fair comparison. Ginger Panther is a very different proposition. There is, however, a version of Cheetah (the villainess opposite Wonder Woman) who comes off as a Black Panther rip-off in certain ways.
@scottymacdewder5229
@scottymacdewder5229 16 күн бұрын
@@alm2187 "Gingeranda Forever!!!"
@timefororbit
@timefororbit 16 күн бұрын
A movie about MLK played by a Japanese female. Very diverse.
@viktorkostov9466
@viktorkostov9466 17 күн бұрын
I advocate for a non-actor being cast and paid to be 007. This discrimination against non-actors for a role that must be made inclusive is outrageous. I volunteer myself
@thepikminbrawler1746
@thepikminbrawler1746 17 күн бұрын
Look up George Lazenby, it’s already happened
@HallyVee
@HallyVee 16 күн бұрын
Are... are non actors being recriminations discriminated against? Feels like you're missing a critical concept, here ;)
@emilianoceja9172
@emilianoceja9172 17 күн бұрын
She tried but no one’s watching it 😂 it would make the Velma show look like a success
@46sn29
@46sn29 17 күн бұрын
Alec, I'll take "yet another thing nobody asked for" for 400 please.
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
Wait until you find out that nobody ever asked for literally any movie that was ever made. 🤡
@46sn29
@46sn29 16 күн бұрын
@@TheJohhnyE Wow. So edgy. 🥱
@lukeduke7476
@lukeduke7476 17 күн бұрын
No. No it can’t. The franchise is already dead. They killed it. They killed Bond.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
There has not been a good Bond since Connery left.
@Cody-to9kn
@Cody-to9kn 16 күн бұрын
⁠@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff😂 yes there has been but okay
@colorfulbirds9472
@colorfulbirds9472 16 күн бұрын
ok boomer
@danishscientist
@danishscientist 16 күн бұрын
Who the hell advised to make a bond female, and make it black, the public outrage was enough for them to not make a trailer, but even if they would have made a trailer they would have made the black female gay or trans
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
​@danishscientist you're getting your fake outrage mixed up. They did make 007 black and female in the last movie. You guys just forgot to keep pretending to care once the movie came out and KZbin grifters didn't remind you to still keep shitting your pants over it. 😂
@dimsen91
@dimsen91 17 күн бұрын
No. Get your own franchise.
@Generalbas1972
@Generalbas1972 17 күн бұрын
Lara Croft - Oh Wait they already did that Uncharted
@garethpowell1267
@garethpowell1267 17 күн бұрын
So what female roles are they making male ??
@IvanDaGrVIII
@IvanDaGrVIII 16 күн бұрын
What's the % of female protagonists in movie history? Large right. You goobers are so sad
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
All the "Bond Girls" could easily be pretty boys.
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
Peter Pan. But we ignore that so we can pretend to be oppressed. 🤣🤡
@themetalgod66683
@themetalgod66683 16 күн бұрын
This will bomb harder than Ghostbusters 2016. 😂😂😂
@dr.plague3710
@dr.plague3710 16 күн бұрын
We do not talk about answer the call.
@sway_gordon2k4
@sway_gordon2k4 17 күн бұрын
Why should their be a female version? Why not an original female spy franchise? What is there to prove?
@alm2187
@alm2187 16 күн бұрын
It's a tough topic. There's the case that originality is dead. There's the problem that accountants tend to believe it.
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
​@@alm2187originality isn't dead. It's just that all the liars screaming on the internet about wanting original movies never support the original movies. But those same liars throw billions at every remake, reboot and sequel..😂
@SardonicDog
@SardonicDog 17 күн бұрын
How about NO!
@briannewman9285
@briannewman9285 16 күн бұрын
A female 007 makes as much sense as making Drew Carey Black Panther.
@TheShaolin015
@TheShaolin015 16 күн бұрын
Create your own spy agent. Then I’ll see the movie. Don’t name her bond
@TheDukeofMadness
@TheDukeofMadness 16 күн бұрын
You put Eva Green in a spy movie, that isn't James Bond, and I will watch it. Happily.
@aznmutt15
@aznmutt15 17 күн бұрын
When are we gonna get a male wonder woman? As long as they don't have the entire movie about how she is better than men.
@colorfulbirds9472
@colorfulbirds9472 16 күн бұрын
well considering that there already WAS a male wonder women comic that is almost as old as Bond, that would make more sense than a female Bond.
@ferdyhoshigakitube
@ferdyhoshigakitube 16 күн бұрын
I am asian, since there is no asian 007, i also volunteer to be cast Where do i sign up
@Great_Sandwich
@Great_Sandwich 16 күн бұрын
_HOW ABOUT, NOOOOOOOO!!?_
@JokersMidnightShow
@JokersMidnightShow 16 күн бұрын
0:55 The answer, looking through all these comments, is a resounding NO! 😂 What's with SR and their propaganda lately?
@pedrolantyer
@pedrolantyer 16 күн бұрын
I think we should call it a day and put the franchise on Ice for at least a decade. Daniel Craig did an excellent job, depending on who you ask, he's either the best or the second best Bond, so let people appreciate his work for a while before we jump back in. Give it 10 or so years, so that people start asking for more
@Mnaughten601
@Mnaughten601 16 күн бұрын
Third best, if he only did casino royal he would be the best, but the rest of his movies sucked.
@robertayala82
@robertayala82 16 күн бұрын
They sure the hell can try. 😂🤣
@rjvybe654
@rjvybe654 17 күн бұрын
So are we gonna get an all Male Charlie's angels?
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
Good idea!
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
You mean The Expendables? 😂
@bobwilliams4895
@bobwilliams4895 16 күн бұрын
Gay
@rjvybe654
@rjvybe654 16 күн бұрын
@@bobwilliams4895 I'm not gay so I'd rather it not be, but if you are and that's what you want that's your opinion.
@rjvybe654
@rjvybe654 16 күн бұрын
@@TheJohhnyE Pretty sure The Expendables has nothing to do with Charlie's angels...also not even close to being similar.
@williamlang6728
@williamlang6728 16 күн бұрын
Does no one remember Modesty Blaise? A separate character that already exists who is literally female James Bond
@justinparry1621
@justinparry1621 16 күн бұрын
There have been lots of "Jane Blonde" figures in spy fiction and a lot of them are fun, but you can't expect to change the gender of the title character of a franchise and obtain the same loyalty from fans.
@chananiel85
@chananiel85 16 күн бұрын
Not even a question. Barbara Broccoli has said they are not interested in creating a universe or a female bond. at best maybe a female 00 agent along side 007. also so as much as ppl like paloma (anna de armas) she won't be getting a spin-off movie.
@martins_alternate_universe6783
@martins_alternate_universe6783 16 күн бұрын
I know the "double o's" are actually zeros, but instead, how about a buxom female agent called, "Double D Seven"? ( DD7 )
@ashykinsmen115
@ashykinsmen115 17 күн бұрын
Nothing Personal, I believe ladies can create their own franchise for themselves like WNBA and everyone will be happy .😊
@DeusExAstra
@DeusExAstra 16 күн бұрын
If only there were other numbers besides 007. But, sadly, our numbering system only includes the single number. Maybe one day when our knowledge of mathematics has progressed enough, we will be able to have agents with other numbers. But until then I guess if we want a female British spy then 007 it has to be.
@tristanflynn4014
@tristanflynn4014 16 күн бұрын
They already have Paloma. Just make a movie about her.
@FectoForgoGaming
@FectoForgoGaming 16 күн бұрын
What your parent company just did to fireb0rn was a complete violation of fair use laws.
@scottmcintosh4397
@scottmcintosh4397 16 күн бұрын
"The names Bond. Jane Bond." 🍸 Natalya Onatop, the new Girl Bond 🌀🔫💋 🌌🔭
@JokersMidnightShow
@JokersMidnightShow 16 күн бұрын
Roger is English, Pierce is Irish, Sean is Scottish, Timothy is Welsh, & George is Australian. We now need to get a Canadian Bond to complete the Commonwealth connection.
@JokersMidnightShow
@JokersMidnightShow 16 күн бұрын
@@sabinemorgner24 Germany isn't part of the Commonwealth though
@dr.plague3710
@dr.plague3710 16 күн бұрын
What is they made a spinoff about an other agent that was female and has worked with bond. That way, as many people are happy as possible
@MrSmeg17
@MrSmeg17 16 күн бұрын
Too long has Mary Poppins been played by a woman but it was the role Tom Hardy was literally born for🤔
@Nekminute
@Nekminute 15 күн бұрын
g o w o k e g o b r o k e
@koffinNAILS
@koffinNAILS 17 күн бұрын
Sure 007 can't come in she had her period. Mission fail
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
Is that what your priest told you about women?
@alm2187
@alm2187 16 күн бұрын
Sorry there are some knee-jerk comments that misrepresent the complicated issue here, ​@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@charlesgriffiths750
@charlesgriffiths750 16 күн бұрын
No, I think it was your mom.​@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
@@charlesgriffiths750 MDUF
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
@@charlesgriffiths750 Is it very small?
@Kakki82
@Kakki82 16 күн бұрын
Already did. Angelina Jolie in Salt or Le Femme Nikita, foreign film.
@mstwntd00
@mstwntd00 17 күн бұрын
007 sure I’m down for that as 007 is just a call sign, as long as they don’t make her Bond
@random-person1
@random-person1 17 күн бұрын
doesnt James have a daughter now? and because daniel craig kinda rebooted the story, at least to show how he got the 007 designation. so with that in mind, it wouldnt be a stretch to come back with his daughter, in 20 years maybe. thats movie years though, so it could be next year..........
@tylerc161
@tylerc161 17 күн бұрын
Would literally rather see The Rock be 007.
@raphaelturtle4146
@raphaelturtle4146 16 күн бұрын
I'd watch her as 007. If not 007 then at least a knockoff 007 in a different franchise - or a different 00 in the Bond universe spinoff.
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 16 күн бұрын
We’ll do a female 007 in another universe, k?
@ssvensic
@ssvensic 17 күн бұрын
I predict great success 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@candycover
@candycover 16 күн бұрын
How would a woman being James bond be any different from her being any other secret agent? Also not the first time there was a female 007
@brobunni
@brobunni 17 күн бұрын
Nah, make a new franchise instead. I would actually pay to see a female spy flick.
@stephengabbey8908
@stephengabbey8908 17 күн бұрын
The last film had a 007who was a woman need other 00s who could be cast don't need a jane bond we need new characters
@colorfulbirds9472
@colorfulbirds9472 16 күн бұрын
actors I would prefer as Bond instead of a woman in the role: - Danny DeVito, - Will Ferrell, - that old dude from Game of Thrones (pick any of them idc), - Daniel Craig again, but this time he's EVEN MORE uninterested in the role, - a dog (could u imagine?), - Sean Connery's reincarnated corpse, - John Travolta The people who want a woman in the role are not the people who the franchise is marketed to. Go make your own spy film with a female lead and see how well it does without ruining one of the only good Spy franchises left.
@TheDukeofMadness
@TheDukeofMadness 16 күн бұрын
Well, Charles Dance already was in James Bond. For Your Eyes Only if memory serves.
@ShaneWenzel
@ShaneWenzel 16 күн бұрын
No. END.
@dr.plague3710
@dr.plague3710 16 күн бұрын
Mabye a female bond would be good, mabye it wouldn’t. But cause she has played a villian in the franchise before, mabye not her. And they would have to put some errata text in the books james bond is based on. So, lets just see how things play out
@manoflemancha2407
@manoflemancha2407 16 күн бұрын
Annie can be played by the Rock
@jamesmichaels4979
@jamesmichaels4979 16 күн бұрын
Make a female spy movie. Instead of changing male spy movies
@peterepete2987
@peterepete2987 16 күн бұрын
NAH it will suck like female ghost busters did... hard
@pallaveesingh6748
@pallaveesingh6748 16 күн бұрын
Too late. Aaron Taylotr Johnson is the new James Bond.A white, male and of course British actor.
@kswas2784
@kswas2784 15 күн бұрын
Nope, she is too old at 59. They wouldn't even select Chris Hemsworth who is 40 because he would be too old after a couple movie.
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 16 күн бұрын
Oh, so thats the name of the actress who was the metamorph on Star Trek Next Generation She was also in the TV series about s pair of plastic surgeons. Nip Tuck i think it was called? Played a woman but was really a transvestite But I'd vote no and she'd be too old anyway
@robinsamuel1970
@robinsamuel1970 17 күн бұрын
No ♾️
@jamesrippy1161
@jamesrippy1161 16 күн бұрын
If they make Jane Bond the movie will completely and utterly fail and be a huge box office bomb the character has always been a man plain and simple
@martinbarrett467
@martinbarrett467 16 күн бұрын
Ummm……. Didn’t we already get a female 007? In No Time to Die?
@EdwinV1985
@EdwinV1985 16 күн бұрын
I want a white guy to play John Shaft, 'cause why does he have to be black...?
@steveOhh68
@steveOhh68 16 күн бұрын
Why not Jane bond? It’s a fictional character ❤
@l1qu1dsk1e
@l1qu1dsk1e 16 күн бұрын
It's JAMES BOND! They may have introduced different actors to portray Bond, but always kept HIS character the same. I'm a chick who's so over women like this. I'm also over all the re-imagend bs too. Can't anyone make an original movie anymore?
@joesatchton212
@joesatchton212 16 күн бұрын
Female 007? I have no real issue with this at some point. However, Famke, as much as she was amazing in that Pierce installment, is now far too old and has subjected herself to far too many [unforunate] facial surgeries which have rendered her once naturally beautiful face into something else. This is not ageism nor body shaming. These are empirical facts. She is, therefore, inappropriate to play 007. Sorry Famke...
@farmersboy
@farmersboy 16 күн бұрын
Fleming must be turning in his grave, given his views on women.
@remcosl4115
@remcosl4115 15 күн бұрын
can't we just stop with genderswapping characters? if you want a female spy main character, make a new franchise, and maybe, if it actually has a good story and is liked by the viewers, you can make more movies of this new female spy. just for the love of god stop trying to change everything we know and love already
@danilo.pereira
@danilo.pereira 17 күн бұрын
no
@Pooh0Bear8
@Pooh0Bear8 16 күн бұрын
No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No
@MovieTrialers
@MovieTrialers 16 күн бұрын
Nah I’m good.
@davidstarr7526
@davidstarr7526 14 күн бұрын
This is a horrible idea. Just create a new character and don't ruin a well established existing one.
@Eastwood_Ravine
@Eastwood_Ravine 16 күн бұрын
If they want to keep the franchise dead and buried, sure go ahead.
@jokester3076
@jokester3076 17 күн бұрын
I’d go for a Xenia Onatopp movie
@DJChrisArgueta
@DJChrisArgueta 16 күн бұрын
If their desire is to ruin the franchise, then they will make 007 a woman
@youvegotwood
@youvegotwood 16 күн бұрын
It would be cool to get an in cannon backstory of how there's been multiple people playing Bond
@mf9309
@mf9309 16 күн бұрын
Leave original characters alone. Besides that, she is too old for the role.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
James bond was in his late 30s.
@mf9309
@mf9309 16 күн бұрын
@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff True and actors who played Bond have aged out of the role with Roger Moore being the oldest at 57. As much as I liked Roger, his age was showing by the time he retired from the part. Famke Janssen will turn 60 this coming November, and while I don’t fault her for her age, like any male in the role, that is too old for the character.
@Kitsune96010
@Kitsune96010 15 күн бұрын
I would love a female bond, but it’s a male fantasy at its core. So I think there would be too much push back to actually allow it to happen.
@NipItInTheBud100
@NipItInTheBud100 16 күн бұрын
James Bond is male. Nothing against women, that character is just a man! Create a new character named Jan bond if you want a female version!
@juliopineirojr.499
@juliopineirojr.499 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, sure, go right ahead, and then watch one of the biggest bombs and James Bond go up in flames. The general public won't buy it pure and simple start creating new female action characters
@TheGrenadier97
@TheGrenadier97 16 күн бұрын
She can go wash the dishes.
@PatchRowcester
@PatchRowcester 16 күн бұрын
No. That works be awful
@juliush1297
@juliush1297 16 күн бұрын
Nope she’s not British !!!!
@xsvmalice8541
@xsvmalice8541 16 күн бұрын
They tey to make a female version of everything and it doesn't work.
@CarlDraper
@CarlDraper 16 күн бұрын
Ian Fleming wrote Bond as a bloke,, a British gentleman, end of story. Go make your own female lead spy series
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
James Bond was NOT a gentleman. He totally working-class.
@danandoliver3613
@danandoliver3613 17 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@shantoreywilkins651
@shantoreywilkins651 17 күн бұрын
📽️📚
@vematsos
@vematsos 16 күн бұрын
Or we can make a new franchise with a female secret agent and call it something else? Or have a spin off and she be 009 or something. Why does everything need a gender make over? Write new stories!!!
@dennyerickson6578
@dennyerickson6578 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely NOT , I am all for NEW and Talented Story or Spin Off , any woman taking the Role the Change CAN be a new 007 just NOT James Bond , Leave the Classics as they are ,just use the Creativity to Write a New and Compelling spin off for a New 007 and new Female Name .. Too often has it been that writers have gotten complacent and Lazy ,All they need to do is dig deep for a New and Relevant Character arc of a woman taking on being the new 007 , they started to , for a Second and then Gave Bond his codename back , All they need do is write a decent NEW and Relevant hand off so Bond can RIP or Retire or whatever, but leave the Classics alone and build new and Relevant Characters , Read I have said New and Relevant a few times , this DOES Not mean this Woke BS , it means Do the work and Build a New Character Arc that need never play into Woke BS and you will always have a huge Fan Base and Cash Cow ,but you have to allow the Right People to Write the Story and Keep Every Last single Woke Ideology out of anything 007,Or Bond Related ... My 2 cents
@THEAdmiralXizor
@THEAdmiralXizor 17 күн бұрын
If having a female British super spy is so important, just make her 008. Oh. I get it. What they really want is to take over an existing brand. In that case, HELL NO.
@alm2187
@alm2187 16 күн бұрын
Does that mean Ocean's 8 was okay by you in principle? Honest question; not an attack.
@THEAdmiralXizor
@THEAdmiralXizor 16 күн бұрын
@@alm2187 of course it was OK! It was a different character, and they didn't try to replace the existing ones. AND, it was a good movie. I think it was handled perfectly.
@alm2187
@alm2187 16 күн бұрын
Cool. Without getting into my opinion if O8, I think the same way, ​@@THEAdmiralXizor It counts as a tie-in and just might be free of inconsistencies with O11 through O13. Political influences on it are also a separate subject. Precedents for female 00 agents: We don't know who all were in the nine chairs with their backs to the camera. I think female 00s get mentioned in the tie-in media (games and relatively new books). I believe Alec T was the very first 00 besides 7 to be given a full Identity. So basically there's plenty of room for consistent retcon to say a woman with this designation is no new development.
@alm2187
@alm2187 6 күн бұрын
Now I'm tryin'a think which movie had the nine chairs. Diamonds Are Forever, maybe?
@clintonstapleton161
@clintonstapleton161 15 күн бұрын
No
@KigreTheViking
@KigreTheViking 16 күн бұрын
Shes waaaaaaaay too old. Get real. Besides, Bond is male. If he is not, its not bond. Simple as that.
@CaptainMarvelsSon
@CaptainMarvelsSon 16 күн бұрын
No.
@michaelogunjobi9153
@michaelogunjobi9153 17 күн бұрын
Oh hell no
@callmehkyle6609
@callmehkyle6609 16 күн бұрын
No. Fck no.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 16 күн бұрын
Famke Jannsen is too old regardless.
@OnSilverWings
@OnSilverWings 17 күн бұрын
They could do what some have suggested and make an original franchise where they have no rules, lore, or canon to stick to, or maybe just make a new 00 just for her then you can have a film where Bond and 00 team up and work together because the threat is too big for one person (maybe they have to be in two different places at once). They could show how men and women can do the same thing or they can play to their strengths and complement each other... ..or they can burn the corpse they killed already and do what has killed off all other beloved franchises. Bond died, they killed him but really he was dead before then, the last film was more the funeral.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 16 күн бұрын
James Bond has rules, lore, canon?????
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 16 күн бұрын
Thats a lot of words to simply say that you just want to bitch and moan on the internet.. 😂
@PauloRenato23
@PauloRenato23 16 күн бұрын
Nope
@PapiCito
@PapiCito 17 күн бұрын
Lol desperate much
@louisbabycos106
@louisbabycos106 16 күн бұрын
I wont see it . I also wont watch warhammer 40k ,nor will i play warhammer 40 k .
@mchawk315
@mchawk315 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, but no.
@WS-qt1vt
@WS-qt1vt 15 күн бұрын
Bitte nicht. Keine Frau als Bond. Bitte nicht. Das ist Schwachsinn. Wenn ich an die Kampfszenen von Daniel Craig denke❤🤜🤛, ...und dann ist da stattdessen eine Frau😮...unvorstellbar.
@Goggles36195
@Goggles36195 16 күн бұрын
No just no
@wadewilson524
@wadewilson524 16 күн бұрын
No. Just no.
@thomaslance5428
@thomaslance5428 16 күн бұрын
I have no big issue with it...but Jenssen is 59. Most Bonds did their first movie between 30 and 40. The oldest to do their last was Moore at 57.
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