James Gets Heated with Lars About his Drumming (Metallica: Some Kind Of Monster)

[@Griimmyyy]

Somehow Lars looks like Eminem, Billy Joe Armstrong, and Jesse Pinkman all in one.

[@DarksaberForce]

Someone said Giovanni Ribisi

[@babywah3290]

Bubba Zanetti from Mad Max

[@quadradomus]

@@babywah3290 , He’ll yes!! I didn’t think anyone remembered Bubba Z! But you pulled him outta the hat. 🤟

[@anthonygiambuzzi8000]

Definitely kind of has billies speech pattern lol

[@claytonjones8358]

..and sounds like a whiny little bitch

[@randysavage7392]

it's a fucking miracle kirk, lars and james are all still playing together. this video looks like kirk watching his parents get divorced

[@mohammedsalah9004]

Hhhhhhyy

[@bbschroeder7125]

That’s so true 😂

[@neo307a]

You heard of Cripple Fight.. . This is Millionaire Rock Star Fight..... & the DOUCHE'

[@namikstudios]

Felt so sorry for poor Kirk being stuck in the middle of some of this lol.

[@jordanalchin-boller1154]

😂😂😂 Oh you guys have no idea do you??? Do your homework/research before commenting

[@peterclarke7240]

Poor Kirk. He just wants to play his guitar, but mom and dad are fighting again...

[@adgeeugeni7536]

😁😁😁

[@TheWaynos73]

Kirk right at the end: are we going to play Stonehenge tomorrow?

[@EarthMatriotFeminalismPu-ho7vc]

Poor bs u r . Bu a faaaaaaan muahahah. Get out.

[@Crystalw5523]

I was literally thinking this haha. It's like watching your parents fight when you were a kid

[@rockoorbe2002]

Kirk is the Butters of Metallica. And I wouldn't be surprised if Toki from Dethklock was inspired by Kirk.

[@toftb6607]

3:27 the SMUGNESS of Lars saying "I'm gonna choose my words carefully here..." and then grossly smacking his mouth lolol

[@seaskov]

He’s an absolute tool

[@Headhunter_212]

no cameras? James is giving him some "Fiveback" on Lars' feedback.

[@insaneguitarboyw]

@@Headhunter_212 Oh to see this interaction with no cameras on LOL.

[@dannymain542]

It's so cringy the way he's always lying on a couch fucking smacking and sucking on that toothpick of his and acting like he's a great musician when the dude can barely keep time. Saying that the guitar riffs are too stock, his drum beats and fills are the most stock shit I've ever heard

[@Raztax]

@@seaskov I would never call Lars a tool, tools are useful.

[@macinfloydvolk]

How Kirk has tolerated those two for so many years is more a testimony to Kirks character than anyone else’s.

[@viruselite]

💯

[@loser_0069]

facts he's the really the only one in Metallica I really enjoy

[@Shaylok]

Surprising. Usually it's the red heads that totally lose it and blow up.

[@LudwigSC93]

I'm pretty the huge cash flow coming makes it a tad easier.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Kirk playing Peacemaker was pretty mature and constructive.

[@SadBadge]

As a drummer, that beat nearly gave me an aneurysm.

[@sherazuki]

doo DAT doo DAAT doo DAAAT

[@sydhamelin1265]

Lars' point would have so much more credence if he wasn't destroying what was being played. "You know what'll go great with this straightforward guitar riff....a snare hit on the AND of 2, and nowhere else." And James called him out 100% - Lars was only attacking the riff to justify doing something incredibly un-musical on the drums.

[@deductivereasoning4257]

The riffs from the Black album and afterwards were stock compared to the riffs that were inspired by Dave...

[@sydhamelin1265]

@@deductivereasoning4257 Cliff was also a huge contributor to their musicality. I really think Metallica's momentum was built on the sound they developed early. Then they had huge commercial success with the Black Album, but after that it's really tough to look at an album and say "solid". I am not a huge fan of the Black Album, but I'll at least say it still sounded good for what it was doing.

[@lennylabastida9975]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@seansinclair257]

Lars is the only drummer that plays a totally different song than what the other guys are playing, and still manages to keep his job.

[@unclefred3128]

The otger guts? That's torally crazy!

[@seansinclair257]

@@unclefred3128 lol... fixed!

[@unclefred3128]

@@seansinclair257 Awww, I preferred it. I was gonna name my next band The Otger Guts lol

[@PirateJohnson]

Lars can't play the same song twice, and sound the same... He owns the rights to the band's name, UnFortunately.

[@seansinclair257]

@@unclefred3128 😆😆😆😆

[@ChristopherSmithNYC]

I think James was expecting a louder slam from that door.

[@clintstryder1131]

😅

[@Thefiregamer578]

Right, that was the quietest door slam of all time!

[@cleopatrabeyblade]

5:14

[@christophersullivan2876]

Studio doors are padded to keep sound in.

[@kdog6793]

There was a kid that raged way back in my 6th grade elementary class. It was one of those school doors with the hydraulic arm at the top so every time it shuts very softly. Well when dude went to slam the door as he was leaving the classroom, he put all his strength into slamming it, and right at the very end the hydraulic arm caught it and gently closed instead of slamming and it was hilarious

[@morgellon7877]

Lars: finally hits the snare on time. Lars: "FUCK!"

[@Cthulhu_Awaken]

How can you tell if that was on time?

[@joprincess6021]

Lmao😂😂😂

[@morgellon7877]

​@@Cthulhu_Awaken Because it sounded more regular. Solid, even.

[@mioszw9139]

@@morgellon7877 hahaha

[@josearellano3268]

Yes Lars hit that snare right on time …

[@thomasrender]

"I'm used to having the drummer do the beat part" just about says it all.Very funny.

[@raiden031]

How so? He's been playing with Lars for the past 40+ years

[@bls8959]

@@raiden031 Amazing isn't it?

[@dewilew2137]

@@raiden031 that’s what I don’t understand.

[@js5584]

​@@raiden031Yeah, it's like "no, you are not dude. You only played with Lars. You never played with Gar bro." 😂

[@rickytpb6146]

It IS funny! Only musicians understand this.. my one drummer always says to me "how do i play that?'... I feel like saying ALWAYS , it's 4/4 time mfer, figure it out! YOUR job is easy, I'm the one singing and playing guitar with chord changes and shit...

[@southerntrendkiller2632]

Lars is the only drummer in the world that thinks 24/7 is a time signature

[@onimaxiis1]

"time signature? What do you mean?" - Lars

[@stevekrauss855]

"Tempo?" - Lars

[@Rico24337]

"Lars?" -Lars

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

"James?" - Lars

[@katkat4986]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@idontgivea1769]

Lars managing to be part of a band for such a long time is one of the mysteries of this world

[@alejandroriggi495]

Money talks

[@hank12-z7w]

It's because it's his band.

[@NeverWinnerNite]

Lars owns Metallica. He might be a "meh" drummer but he is a shrewd character

[@CameronJohnson-uj9df]

They were actually planning to kick him out after the Damage Inc tour but then Cliff died and James thought it’d be too hard to find a new bassist AND drummer so they decided against it (at least that’s what i heard(

[@TheNothing6]

You'll never write a drum beat like he has. It's easy to criticize.

[@Huhgundai399]

That “sorry man” from Kirk at the beginning prevented a disaster. Be humble kings

[@joeyc666]

Kirk is the glue. His adhesive power is underrated!

[@algo2957]

@@joeyc666 "You know what guys? Why don't we just go in there and hammer it out instead of hammering on each other." Indeed.

[@joeyc666]

@@algo2957 Kirk is such a gem

[@algo2957]

@@joeyc666 he also bullied Jason tho

[@joeyc666]

@@algo2957 aww, that's not cool. I think Jason is a bit of a softy underneath his crunchy, metal exterior.

[@darreleddings5901]

Jason saved the band twice. He joined, and took all the shit they dealt him without complaint. He left the band and forced them to deal with all the shit they had buried. Jason Newsted, the True Heart of Metallica.

[@GaddyMark]

So true

[@nordimejia5790]

And he is long gone... That is sad. He jumped out just in time.

[@jamesestrada82]

Agreed. Jason was the glue, and the sacrifice.

[@bizviddotcom]

Spot on!

[@Pepsolman]

Such a big understatement. Jason is Metallica.

[@RC-fi8nn]

Kirk: writes chunky riff, potentially better than any riff off of St. Anger Rest of Band: shut up Kirk

[@vinaymulukutla358]

I can’t imagine what they must have said to him if he ever mentioned the possibility of guitar solos on the album.

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

@@vinaymulukutla358 There's a whole scene in the movie about that exact thing. Lars told Kirk that solos were "dated" and they didn't need them anymore. Kirk said "actually not having solos dates THIS album to THIS period". Kirk was right about that as well. Metallica was trying to almost jump on the nu metal trend that was still going at the time and I think St Anger was a result of that.

[@ktw70]

@@vinaymulukutla358 I think the success of MOP made James and Lars very arrogant. It was their way or the highway until Jason left and humbled them.

[@judgementday2024]

Yeah Kirk had a banger going and James and Lars didn't see it. That riff was badass

[@MikeSoutham]

@@judgementday2024 agree.. killer riff. that beat that lars played though was horrific. Any drummer worth their salt could have backed that riff up with something better than that off the the top of thier head.

[@bartoj03]

Kirk’s facepalm is absolutely perfect

[@rpgg80]

Agreed, signed and subscribed. I know i shouldn't make a joke about this but it would be really funny, in the matter of making a black humor kind of joke, that James and Lars could be probably resolving their musical issue on a box ringue. 🤣🤣 Their anger would flow and unload so and very naturally. 🤣🤣 This would preserve the material of that Jame's door slammed.

[@peterdragon6367]

“I’m used to having the drummer do the beat part….” 😂

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

This is hilarious line, but it also got me thinking… what other drummers did James jam and write records with?

[@kadugbuss]

@@BradsGonnaPlay He meant lars used to do the beat part and isn`t doing anymore

[@ramonw9430]

@@kadugbuss yeah that wasn't even really a beat lol

[@zoezebra4013]

this also shows how he positions himself in the band, he didn't say 'I'm used to play with the drummer' but he 'has' a drummer

[@hectorantias3173]

​@@zoezebra4013 Have someone do something is an expression that doesn't involve ownership.

[@friendly_neighbourhood_grandma]

Kirk is a good man. He seems like the type of guy to just wanna chill and have a drink or something.

[@4thandinches]

Grandma Henry, if you listen to Kirk's far-left political rants, you will quickly realize that Kirk is actually a deeply disturbed individual, who needs serious help.

[@spudly5339]

Having to deal w/ Lars... I'm surprised he's not a complete alcoholic. He went the positive route and just became a Buddhist instead. 👍

[@Ken-Morten]

​@@spudly5339 is kirk a buddhist? I didnt know.

[@kaustik185]

yeah like... a drink or... ten

[@dukeljk2191]

Or rub cocks with another guy.

[@thatsamazin-]

Kirk is the glue that has held them together for decades. Always the voice of reason. He is a total pro that has carried himself well through all the thick and thin. He’s the Michael Anthony of Metallica. Lol

[@johnblomquist9071]

Such an extremely underrated member who always struck me as the person with the biggest heart of the group

[@blunderless]

​@@johnblomquist9071James is definitely the most underrated, but I agree. Heart of gold, a good man.

[@Malumbrus]

He just wants to play and make music, not squabble like school yard girls.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@blunderless Please. Like a third of Metallica fans think Hetfield does it all alone and the rest of the band is holding him back.

[@TheBehevior]

yeah well not when he plays

[@YouCantDeleteDenzelL]

The best part is how Lars has that look on thst face as if hes playing the coolest shit ever.

[@JustinSawyer-ji5wm]

"What you got for us, Lars?" Lars: "the most unhinged beat you've ever heard"

[@CircleofShit]

Lol.

[@andregordon2599]

Just some TRASH lmao.

[@i_Blastoise]

"aww honey did you mean off rhythm and off beat? it's okay here's your sandwich" lol

[@chimpinaneckbrace]

He’s probably just trying to rip off some random, crappy nu metal band he heard in the car on the way over.

[@effinchad]

Lars was/is a Chains fan. I think he was trying to employ some of their dark rhythms. Or least that's how it was sounding to me.

[@khrashingphantom9632]

At 4:58 one of the most legendary "face palms" in human history. We are ALL Kirk in that moment. Lol.

[@goldenwolf8081]

Kirk is the kid listening to his parents argue 😂😂

[@tattoodude8946]

I love that it close enough to the camera that you could actually hear it! 🤣🤣🤣

[@FallNorth]

@@tattoodude8946 Lol was about to say that. . "slap".

[@timothydraper6626]

For real! Lars is being so unhelpful.

[@aaronl3111]

Metallica’s version of the office.

[@itwontcomeout5678]

And it’s exactly like Metalocalypse ahahahahaha

[@thieveryguitars6206]

I mean, this movie did make it seem like song writing in Metallica is an office job 😂

[@florencehenderson3707]

😆for realz... all the close-ups of the passive-aggressive jabs taken... ugghhh ...truly incredible that a band can stay together this long.

[@SnGrg]

hahahah

[@AdibAbdullah-gg1jd]

Lmao 🤣

[@nicorichichi9801]

Lars used to be my biggest influence when I started drums. 30 years later he has never gotten any better while all his contemporaries can drum circles around him.

[@toddgaak422]

Dude, he can't even play his own songs. Have you seen the video of him trying to play Shortest Straw for Rock Band?

[@Sherman_Dank]

My respect for Kirk rises everytime I see any of these segments.

[@machinescapes]

kirk’s facepalm was the cherry on top…

[@craneoDeFuego077]

I'm dying lmao

[@rodinowright6591]

I'm surprised Kirk stayed and Jason left

[@Godloveszaza]

​@@rodinowright6591 well Jason left because they treated him like doggypoo

[@benjaminriddle8207]

@@Godloveszaza I woulda left to my own band members treating me like shit wouldn’t tolerate it

[@vellron]

yeah the.... aaaaand there it is... xD

[@QuickStix26]

It's really underrated how hard it is to keep a band together for this long. The touring, the endless hours in the studio. Being around the same guys almost 24/7.

[@ericmorrissette2253]

Lets all agree Lars is really overated. That riff is child play to drum too, almost too easy

[@hazardeur]

i'll tell you what's overrated. the use of the word underrated

[@riproar11]

@@hazardeur Yeah, seriously! Whenever there is a YT video about a musician or band who were big at one time, there's always the noob who posts the "underrated" comment. It's like they're all born from the same mother and they're out there to do their damage.

[@QuickStix26]

@@riproar11 Sounds like you and hazard share the same half brain. Don’t hurt yourselves trying to think too hard.

[@zachstadler9180]

You forgot the part where they make millions of dollars

[@NillerMann]

It’s so nice to see how well they get along now!

[@stuartanderson6785]

How anyone could play with Lars is a miracle. I'm shocked James didn't walk away decades ago. Kirk may be the only reason that band is still together.

[@sultaa86]

Well, in Lars defend, Metallica still is a Trash Metal Band. And if you compare Stuff from "kill em all" or "Ride the Lightning" to what they did in the mid 90s, Lars drumming was pretty much okay. There just wasn't much that could go wrong. But when they started doing Stuff like Load or Reload things went a bit more complex. James Voice started to sound deeper but way more mature. Kirks Skills had already been unique since the Begining and Jasons Part wasn't really hard. I only wish he would've never sing during a Gig. Hate his Voice. But i was never a big Newsted Fan anyway. It upset me when he left and Metallica was again missing a Bassist, but i was kinda happy Jason was gone. Only Lars had never done anything to improve his Drumming Skills. He got lazy and was just sorta floating with what James and Kirk did. But at the same Time he just wouldn't shut the hell up. Always complainting and wanting to change Stuff.

[@jesseinfinite]

nope. Lars and Hetfield are the main songwriters. Kirk and Trujilo are tertiary members.

[@martyevans1]

@@jesseinfinite Didnt Kirk write the riff for Enter Sandman?

[@mozdaboz]

Everyone's shitting on Lars but he's actually the "Steve Jobs" of the group if you saw how James and Kirk describes how he envisions the songs they're making on that Howard Stern interview

[@ngc-fo5te]

@@mozdaboz Correct - Lars can be irritating but if he wasn't around when they started Metallica would have ceased to exist decades ago.

[@bstnlcge2662]

Didn't remember that Eminem had a chance to try drumming for Metallica back then lmao

[@MoltandMigrate]

I mean, that would explain the problems with the snare. It wasn't loud enough in Em's monitors

[@willmadden7653]

Maybe Eminem can play drums better than the one they have who is the luckiest hack on the planet did Lars always suck or is this a new thing cause from this video they could just hire a kid in each town for 20 bucks

[@lordgargamel4124]

Ghey bar hair cut

[@ic3berg339]

its not 😂 eminem

[@ic3berg339]

@@humanperson4132 but this aint him

[@Haivuoto]

”I’m gonna choose my words carefully… the guitar shit is little stock”. That went well, Lars.

[@limjahey3119]

The way he arrogantly slaps his tongue to the roof of his mouth before he says it too…. I wanted to punch him in the face lol

[@florencehenderson3707]

yeahhhhhhh .. he chose his words carefully for the most passive-aggressive effect possible lol

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

This is why they needed therapy: They never learned how to communicate, they were basically still bickering like teens.

[@florencehenderson3707]

@@michaelangeloh.5383 Now that I'm a grown up, I see that this is how a lot of us learned to communicate... It takes discipline to do it differently and yeah .. therapy when ya can. 🤷

[@steez8287]

Well James started with the passive aggressive comment trying to put Lars in his place with “I’m used to the drummer just doing the beat”

[@lancekotter927]

Lars is one of the only drummers I’ve seen get worse over the years. I think James handled it well. Anyone would’ve lost their shit with a beat so bad.

[@goldenwolf8081]

I’m not a Drummer and even I know that 1:47 sounds way off from the guitar riff I would’ve absolutely said something.

[@DAWSONNOSE]

I love how Kirk is trying to be the peacemaker of the whole situation

[@exterminateparasites3185]

He's the beta male of the group

[@Csetnikke]

Chill Hammet

[@Diddy666-n9u]

Kirk Kirk Kirk Kirk

[@LightBlueWool]

Him and the bass players were all chill

[@Lovell93]

@@exterminateparasites3185 Not at all. Beta males throw hissy fits and slam doors like James and Lars did. Kirk is the alpha, being the voice of reason, and not throwing a fit like a 12 year old.

[@DabziFraxili]

It's like the snare was a deliberate passive-aggressive attack on everyones patience.

[@HardTruthsReviews]

It just gave extreme anxiety

[@DabziFraxili]

@@HardTruthsReviews It was bad.

[@DabziFraxili]

Listening to it more closely, it sounds like an overinflated kickball being hurled at the wall.

[@ImTheRealJake]

i love how james was trying tap dance around saying "can you please keep fucking time for us?". kirk's face says it all while listening to the playback.

[@kevinkommtspielen3164]

I always felt I‘d never make it as a drummer because I‘m not good enough but ever since I’ve heard Lars play I have gained an unprecedented level of confidence in both my skills and chances, Thank you Lars 🙏❤️

[@zebecjr.1423]

Seeing Lars slithering like a bored kid on that ccouch, while the rest of them are having a serious conversation is just hilarious.

[@azel3902]

I actually love him bruhp

[@MAte925]

He does act like a brat some times!

[@greyfox4577]

On top of that the tone of his voice and his maners are annoying as hell, hes like a drummer who became famous due to consequence.

[@MAte925]

He's not as humble as the other 2!

[@stijnvandamme76]

@@greyfox4577 pretty weird he never got his ass beat by the others.. I mean James could take him and beat him like a drum... and he would have more rhythm doing it

[@edwardp.2642]

Jokes aside, props to whoever installed that door - he did a great job.

[@wilhelmvg9978]

😂😂😂 that’s really fuckin funny

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

Perhaps James himself.

[@johnzackarias11]

Yeah that's some fine carpentry!

[@MondoRdr]

No lie, I was ready to hear a slam and rattle and that shit was SOLID

[@ProbeRaum-Berlin]

That door had that iconic pop when it slammed

[@harryjohnson4379]

James' restraint is amazing. One of the best rhythm guitar players of all time being told by arguably the worst metal drummer of all time that he isn't good enough.

[@castingthestone]

Lars telling another musician their stuff is ‘stock’ is equally as funny 😂

[@chrisarchard2009]

😂 💯

[@Lilbee730]

That riff is stock af tho

[@deductivereasoning4257]

The riff comes 1st. Expecting a good beat for a stock riff just doesn't happen...

[@christopherparsons3224]

James is able to play he drums surprisingly well. It makes me wonder why he doesn't just create his own ideas and submit them to Lars. If they fight after that, I am sure James can get someone to sit in for Lars.

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm438]

4:17 “Oh yes please write it down I can’t hear you” 😂😂

[@mayonaisepancakes8644]

Defending that drumbeat as a pro musician is wild

[@ReeseChown]

The whole song was rightfully scrapped. What even were the lyrics? "Mmmyeah now only again yeah (unintelligable)" these guys were burned out bad

[@dallasdavis5765]

100%

[@krusher74]

he was defending the idea of trying to not write the same song over and over.

[@youegg8905]

I don't know; he's not a pro musician, he's in a famous band, but he has no formal training.

[@usernameonutube]

He was intentionally playing some sort of inverse beat weird but I think it was almost intentional stock this stock that haha

[@Uzurr69]

The riff that almost destroyed Metallica 😂

[@KikoDittert]

hahahahahahh

[@xmarius0645]

The riff that should not be

[@giln4689]

lmfao 😂😂

[@Leo-qe3gl]

​​@@xmarius0645 😂 i see what you did there

[@ramonw9430]

You sure it wasn't that god awful drum beat?

[@mushroomleg]

Lars’ drumming was James’ rock bottom that drove him to rehab.

[@dixonhill1108]

You joke but his addictions I'm sure are part of what made james go clean, what the documentary doesn't and won't ever cover is how toxic of an addict lars is.

[@latentsea]

James suffered from second hand blow. Lars coming down off a three dayer and his brain just freezes up drum stop, and janes has to deal with the no flow , so he grabs s bottle to get some flow, but it ends up a shit show.

[@drosander000]

I'm willing to bet this was probably the day that his wife kicked him out of the house and that's why he was in a shity mood

[@wolfumz]

​@@dixonhill1108 i had no idea about how awful lars is until I read your comment, got curious, and looked it up. He's totally insufferable. I'm in recovery, I used to work as a counselor at a rehab for homeless and probationers, and I was getting flashbacks about my difficult clients lol. Lars has so many layers of denial in these interviews: "my drinking is not problem because James drinks more" "I'm not at addict because I eat breakfast before I start drinking" and the classic "my drinking can't be a problem, because I stopped doing cocaine." Lots of people grow out of mindset, they can get past it and change. But man, Lars has sustained it for 40 years. And he's still going.

[@leob4403]

​@@wolfumzyou still have no idea how Lars is since you have never met him, all you do now is judging him.based on your preconceived notions

[@underwaterlevelz1947]

I genuinely appreciate these kinds of videos, because we don't get them anymore. AT ALL. Nowadays, everyone that does any kind of "Behind the scenes" or "Making Of" type videos always has to brighten it up and only talk about the positives, even when we KNOW it sucks.

[@suburbanindie]

If I was in a band with Lars for that long I would drink too

[@jamesgreen5371]

😂😂😂

[@danielreynolds6498]

James just seems like some kind of sad tortured soul after working with prick lars for years … he truly sucked the life out of him ..

[@michaeldeloach838]

The problem is not that Lars can't lay down a simple 4/4 beat here, it's that he's trying to do something different within a 4/4 time signature. He can kind of hear it in his head but he's not sure how to land it. This is what happens when a band is put in a room and given a deadline to come up with new material. It doesn't work that way. You have to give the band time and space to create organically. If you force it, it sounds forced and is usually not as good as it could have been. Everyone in the band needs to be at the same level of inspired at the same time to create the best stuff. Sometimes that happens quickly and sometimes it takes years to get to that point. Record labels don't care. They want the product NOW, and this is the result.

[@JarredPearman]

Nailed it. I get where he is coming from.

[@tedbuffington522]

This time I see it from Lars pov. I mean his beat was awful but as a drummer I understand it. 40 yrs of playing snare on 2 + 4 has to get boring. And James riff was stock as hell tbh

[@Benjawin6671]

​@@tedbuffington522not to mention he was being a complete dick.

[@loopeygoopey]

absolutely not. all their early shit and most bands coming up are always crunched for time, working in the restraints of limited, expensive studio time

[@michaeldeloach838]

@@loopeygoopey When they were a young band they were inspired and the music flowed easily. Same with most young bands. They're hungry. But as you get older and more successful you get uninspired and complacent. You want to slow down and enjoy the success. You get into other interests. You have families. You start wanting to do things differently out of boredom. You can't just tap back into that old well and come up with great stuff anymore. Sometimes the well dries up altogether. And sometimes it just takes some time and a renewed inspiration. You have to give some bands room to breathe and create. In the old days labels even took the time to develop bands. They may not hit until the 3rd or 4th album. These days, if there's no hits on the first album there's no deal. How many would have been great, would have been legendary bands never got off the ground because the label couldn't be bothered developing them? That's why there are so few modern legendary bands.

[@baiteme]

Kirk's face slap was priceless.

[@pnut3844able]

He knew. "Dude, why?!?!"

[@azel3902]

LMAOOO

[@vahioslim3003]

😂😂😂😂it was

[@danielmunoz456]

I bought this dvd when it came out and that face slap still gets me to this day.

[@dogsgobooom]

I read this just before he did it!😅

[@LRM5195]

“You’re really helpin’ matters” is something that’s always been the back of my head

[@manifestgtr]

That drum groove was so horrific, it sent James immediately to rehab lol

[@lollipop84858]

It did? How?

[@TheDede508]

Wanted to be mad at this comment but it made me laugh instead

[@CrazyhorseDK]

it absolutely sucked

[@JoshHopkinsYT]

LOL

[@B.D.E.]

That was his rock bottom lol.

[@retro1sheet925]

James slammin' the door at the end was better than anything Lars did on the drums.

[@averagemoes]

U probably listen to “stock” music

[@TheWaynos73]

Kirk so didn’t give one fk on that album - not one solo - didn’t even care enough to do his job

[@vonFisch]

@@averagemoes Metallica is the most stock music ever, it sounds like composed by AI from the 80'ties

[@alarmgoesding]

@@TheWaynos73 Watch the documentary. Lars forced the idea of having no solos and Kirk was against it.

[@adangracia3763]

​@@Fish-df5xc yeah, I don't care..

[@ScottXC91]

James being so matter of fact and calm about his opinions is inspiring. “I’m just used to the drummer…holding down the beat.”

[@leob4403]

Obviously theres a lot of passive agressiveness in his delivery of those words that you seem to have missed. Its in a way belitteling Lars role in the band that hes just another drummer

[@lepermessiyah5823]

@@leob4403 not really. he was trying to not get in an argument because he knew how emotional Lars was, so he didnt want to flat out say it was shit. What he said is correct too, drums are the foundation, not the melody.

[@leob4403]

@@lepermessiyah5823 well according to lars the guitar riffs were shit. And drums can be an essential part to songwriting. Just look at dave grohl, he often says he imagines the drum parts first, and the guitar mimics the drum beats

[@lepermessiyah5823]

@@leob4403 according to Lars? the mediocre drummer as opposed to the best metal rhythm guitarist? look I like Lars (hes the only one of them to hand me a drink) and Metallica is the best metal band there is, but he is flat out wrong to pick a fight in this case

[@stijnvandamme76]

@@leob4403 Just another drummer would actually be a compliment for Lars's abilities

[@markhall8874]

No, James is really thinking that he sent the wrong guy home on the bus from NY in '83 ........

[@Millionair95]

That lip smack at 3:30 made me want to turn into an alcoholic

[@Peedarb]

Lol

[@Ottophil]

I don’t get, why?

[@cableroyson9992]

😂

[@TimBajeena]

​@@Ottophilbecause james hetfield went to rehab for alcoholism shortly after this

[@wilbur218]

that lip smack is baiting for a felony

[@GillBoldberg]

The fact Lars can’t land a normal 4/4 drum beat when asked is still astounding.

[@JonnyCrackers]

Seriously. It was like watching someone who has only been playing drums for a month.

[@Phantasm2Cuda]

Crybaby

[@captainjefferies9047]

The fact that you have sex with dogs is astounding.

[@eh3744]

He can easily he just wanted to try something different and it was pretty bad. Doesn’t mean he can’t play 2 and 4 he’s been doing it for years but when he tries to be more creative/interesting he struggles. Doesn’t mean he can’t play standard beats it just means when he tries new things they don’t really land.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@eh3744 Let me tell you a secret, whenever any drummer tries any new weird thing for the first time we struggle, even if it sounds simple enough.

[@satyrosphilbrucato9140]

I respect the hell out of the guys for buying this movie and making it public after their management tried to bury it. Some Kind of Monster makes them all look like assholes, and instead of doing the Rawk Star thing and burying it, Metallica were like, "No, this is honest. Let's put it out there." Many artists who prize their ability to "keep it real" aren't nearly that courageous about taking responsibility for their shit.

[@fuckcensorship69]

i always figured it HAD TO BE PARODY.

[@satyrosphilbrucato9140]

@@fuckcensorship69 Ever see Anvil: The Story of Anvil? I'd never heard of Anvil before I saw that film, so I spent the first half or so thinking it was satire. Then I realized, "No, this is/was a real band, these are real guys, this stuff is actually happening." Then I got really depressed, because as soon as it stops being funny, it's sad.

[@fuckcensorship69]

@@satyrosphilbrucato9140 theres a Pentagram documentary thats way worse. Leibling is fn 60 years old, living with his parents....and not bc he's taking care of them, he's smoking crack the whole time.

[@Boston_420]

Lol you're waaaaaay over thinking this, they released it because it gave them the only thing they have cared about since the black album big$$$$ it also saved their asses for recording one of the worst albums of all time

[@joshuaDstarks]

@@fuckcensorship69 it was heroin, but yeah - that Pentagram doc is something else.

[@jonathansonnier3078]

As always it doesn’t matter if it’s a relationship with a wife, girlfriend or a best friend and band member. Alcohol ruins everything or the aftermath of alcohol this was right before James went to rehab

[@shred9475]

They should have made a song out of the riff Kirk was playing at first

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

Sounds too much like Rush's "Working Man"

[@angelapalmaperalta3474]

@@JoeyArmstrong2800 dlfl k kdlek3

[@Justin-es2mw]

​@@JoeyArmstrong2800or Lord of This World by Black Sabbath

[@9ckr716]

You make a song out of the riff.

[@coltonbunch16]

@@JoeyArmstrong2800 I thought the exact same thing. I thought he was just jamming on that song.

[@derekogilvie6942]

to allow this honesty, openness and transparency on film is a credit to all in the band.

[@braxtongreenwell5482]

It's that type of honesty that allowed these guys to write a masterpiece like Appetite For Destruction. Even though Brett Michaels isn't in the band anymore they still have got it.

[@ahlads]

@@braxtongreenwell5482 I preferred Bon Scott as their singer though.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

I think James wants to let the world know what he's been going through for decades. The inventor of cancer himself, you know.

[@rockoorbe2002]

I'm actually glad they did this back in the early 2000s. If they did it today it would be edited to shit. Plus they'd have cuts of everyone doing an interview reality show style. This definitely feels like a documentary.

[@ion1984]

yeah 99% of times when there is a studio doc you're not gonna see these parts.

[@ChristIsKing270]

I remember growing up, I started playing drums bc I wanted to be like Lars, by the 9th grade I was sorely disappointed that I was already better. Sort of broke my heart actually

[@leob4403]

Well it breaks my heart that you havent shared your amazing music with us mere mortals. Please show us your legendary songwriting and arranging chops I dont want to miss out on something even better than Metallica😮

[@ChristIsKing270]

@@leob4403 I never said I was amazing. 95% of drummers are better than him. I'm not being prideful, he has no timing, cheats with triggers, and doesn't have any creativity. It's not a hard conclusion. It's just a fact. The talent in that band is James & Kirk, everyone knows it (respect to Cliff). James Hetfield is a better drummer and that's 1/2 the reason he was pissed off at Lars. I mean, did you even listen to that garbage? He had every right to be pissed.

[@ChristIsKing270]

@@leob4403 btw, to what songwriting and arranging from Lars would you be referring to? The guy did none of those things. Know music before you talk

[@leob4403]

@@ChristIsKing270 yeah no creativity thats why his drum parts from the 80s and 90s are played by millions of aspiring drummers across the world to this day. Yes Lars is an integral part of the songwriting process, he has songwriting credits on every album, its you thats just making stuff up

[@ChristIsKing270]

@@leob4403 🙄🤣😉 ok buddy, you defend him like he's your boyfriend. Metallica is great but he's a crap drummer. And real drummers know it. You're either not a drummer/musician or aren't any good either. Moving on

[@joshuabean9409]

"All next week is therapy" Right after that "beat" is gold!!!

[@deathkampdrone]

it's amazing how Lars has pulled off being a professional drummer for decades and making a decent living from it too

[@Andruthless]

A decent living? Man is worth over $300 million. Most career drummers don't have $300

[@jackmorash7992]

I totally agree - his drumming always sounds “unique” to me

[@darksaga80]

He's admitted after the Kill Em All album he had to go back and take lessons to learn just basic drumming stuff. My son is a pretty accomplished drummer and used to be a huge Lars fan and even he said once he started learning more complex stuff on his kit and music theory stuff, he thinks Lars is a total clown and the stuff he's done is very rudimentary.

[@daltonpaden9098]

Dudes in the top 3 wealthiest drummers of all time. Decent is putting it lightly

[@leandro5221]

@@darksaga80I bet your son got into drums because of Metallica (because of Lars fills indirectely) and now he thinks the man is a clown because of his drumming?...wtf, I think your son is a little bit of a posser.... all these people hating on Lars drumming, yet you all love Metallica, all as* holes hating Lars drumming are a bunch of hypocrites.... I don't know who the f do you all Lars haters think you are, are you Danny Carey or maybe Mario Duplantier?, Lars accomplished to build and stay in one of the most iconic metal bands in the world, not just metal bands, Metallica is among the biggests bands in history.... and the songs that made Metallica popular have Lars drumming fills on it, in all of them, and those fills are just right for the songs, if the drumming of the songs would not be Lars drumming maybe those songs would be shit

[@nickknight5543]

The one and ONLY reason Lars is still in the band is because he OWNS the rights to the Metallica name. He is the only drummer in the world to get progressively worse as time goes on.

[@Dirtnap1986]

Don't forget Daddy's money and connections

[@HolyDiver79]

Right i feel like peak was and justice for all and fell way off after the black album and st angercis some of the worst sounding drums ever on an album

[@Maynardd]

For his age, he’s looking pretty good in these videos of their current tour. Basic yes, but the guy is definitely playing well right now.

[@tlow8745]

he has never played well. Everytime i hear Lars drumming, it makes me want to listen to Slayer@@Maynardd

[@SumTingWong1482]

I bet James sometimes wishes it was Lars instead of Cliff who perished in that accident

[@aewhatever]

Kirk: " Mom dad. Stop fighting "

[@mattdannald]

Mom, dad, can I go to bed early?

[@leonconnelly5303]

The St Anger drums will never not be funny the second I hear them I cant stop laughing

[@faridguzman91]

4:51 the definition of lars drumming

[@JasonCan-wp2fu]

That’s so good 😂

[@alberto_saurus]

Underrated 😂

[@thomasarnal]

You have to give credit to the band for getting this on tape and letting it be in the final cut. Much respect. I love these kind of documentaries and fair play for giving it to us raw.

[@sdarbs]

100%. Easy to keep this stuff behind close doors and pretend it never happens, but they had the courage to own it and to let themselves be seen in this unflattering light. Good call man

[@Woyaboy]

Agree 110! Love or hate these guys this was a fun watch. ANYBODY whose had a band, even if you never played a live show and remained relatively small has gone through this EXACT bull shit.

[@ryanrobertson7218]

They probably didn’t have final cut. A lot of doc directors don’t want their stuff messed with by the subject.

[@thomasarnal]

@@ryanrobertson7218 It is very rare that a band/artist/management team doesn't negiociate a final say before release. I work in documentary making and 99.99% of what I produce is checked by someone before it goes out.

[@johnlockie]

This documentary was so brutally honest. It’s easy to trash Lars’ drumming here, but it’s honest and it shows the creative challenges between instrumentalists in a band where everyone contributes to the song writing process. This is the kind of stuff that causes bands to break up. Much respect to these guys for keeping it together all these years.

[@Gramercy_Stiffs]

I think they were all at fault. You could tell they were creatively dry during this period. The arguments were arising because they knew the songs weren't any good and they didn't know where the next good idea was going to come from.

[@alanduncan1980]

For sure. The guy is so overbearing. Just because he formed the band, he thinks he owns it, but that guy is dispensable. I wouldn't care If they continued with a different drummer, but I guess they're stuck with him. Poor James and Kirk. I think Newstead never got a fair shake either, and Trujillo seems more like a hired session bassist, rather than an equal member of the band.

[@mattymurdo4134]

Their only challenge is playing with Lars 😀... And that has been their biggest challenge for the last 40 years

[@IronHorsey3]

Whatever that was, it wasn’t drumming. Lars was sneaking in crack. That was just awful. James was right.

[@lightup6751]

@@alanduncan1980actually lars played a huge role in the band beyond his drums and being a member of metallica. he got them a ton of contact, created the structure and set pieces for a ton of their songs and was very skilled in the business side for metallica. he is a big reason metallica became a global sensation and just a popular heavy metal band. each member of metallica played an irreplacable role in the band.

[@fredhug6972]

I had to watch this video again to remind myself that being in a band is work. Every band has their own brand of drama. The music is the easier part. The band is the hardest.

[@planet_of_the_grapes]

How they managed to get this record done with all the "stock" riffs is incredible.

[@MrParkerman6]

Stock 'Em All Ride The Stocking Master of Stockettes ...and Justice for Stock The Stock Album Load Stocking Reload Stocking Stock-inkg St. Stalker Stock Magnetic Hardstockered 72 Stockings

[@HM-gt5pd]

@@MrParkerman6 underrated comment

[@Squirrelconga]

"S (Stock) & M" "Garage Stock Revisited"

[@Squirrelconga]

And let's not forget the covers/singles "Cold Stock Crazy" and "Bread Stock"

[@faltore]

Wouldve killed me if you said Stock and ReStock for load and reload😂😂

[@EnoAronds]

These Guys wrote "And justice for all" one of the most technical thrash records ever. Seeing this is just hilarious

[@casperch]

Technical? Okay buddy.

[@Fleig.]

Yet they didn't have enough brains to listen to the producer when he said their mix idea sounded like shit Also AJFA isn't that technical, dude

[@shardrygd]

​@@Fleig.Not listening to the producer was one of the biggest mistakes in the whole creating of St Anger imo

[@shardrygd]

ikr

[@ramsesf.7956]

"St Anger" is pure shit and I'm a hard fan of the band. Thank God they make "Death Magnetic" after that garbage.

[@redmustangredmustang]

As people have said over and over, it's a miracle that those 3 have been together for over 40 years.

[@VilaToro64]

Without their bass cliff their foundation was off balance

[@goldenwolf8081]

@@VilaToro64cliff was the one who made sure especially Lars and the rest of the band was perfectly on point which is why master of puppets is a phenomenal album tight heavy and very well produced then you get to st anger and it’s a night and day difference

[@nihilosphere319]

The viewer has the unique perspective of knowing this is an argument over music that is ultimately going to blow a goat anyway

[@Jamesp1972]

This is the greatest music doc ever, amazing they had the balls to let it go out unneutered

[@palmerlp]

It’s absolutely amazing. It’s as good as “The Last Waltz” or “Gimme Shelter.” The only thing that’s even similar is “Meeting People Is Easy.”

[@AnthonyMichaelSneed]

Kirk's energy is essential. Imagine another alpha energy in that room like Mustaine?

[@SB-py5iu]

I dont think whining like children is very alpha

[@Qwerty-kz7gk]

Nothing alpha about those two princesses. Utter whiners

[@naxo9975]

They would've been beating the shit out of themselves in 30 seconds

[@Strix358]

@@naxo9975 Like Jack in Fight Club? I would like to see that.

[@sethcashman1011]

Would have been fatal.

[@purplemonkeyelephant]

Me in my restaurant: "For this course I have prepared a sieved savoury vegetable stew with hints of thyme and olive oil" Lars: "It's stock"

[@lekoman]

Me on my farm: "And over here is where we keep the heifers, steers, ewes, and rams." Lars: "It's stock"

[@vincenttalley5938]

This thumbnail is perfect lol

[@arvidassburg4500]

LOL you can tell how much James' patience is getting tested with Lars. Everytime he says something passive-aggressive and does a half-hearted laugh 🤣

[@Peter_1986]

I love how Kirk is like "come on guys, let's be friends here" throughout the whole video. That guy is always super-wholesome.

[@bosesebi6685]

he has no other options

[@Peter_1986]

@@bosesebi6685 He comes off as a generally mild-mannered and agreeable person to me; people with those personality traits dislike conflicts, and want to have a positive relationship with people.

[@nickr4837]

what these guys really needed to do was fight it out though

[@420beIIa]

hes cute asf :3

[@exclamationpointman3852]

Really? GOD bless and keep him and save his soul in the name of JESUS CHRIST.

[@C.M.M.23]

5:09 "Come on guys..." Kirk, the middle child that is secretly content with staying out of the spotlight- but has to say something out of obligation. "Come on guys..." 😂

[@FerretFerret-s7w]

He kinda sounds like mordecai

[@jkrycz]

Kirk's forehead slap is at 4:55 for everyone looking for it.

[@livcore]

4:57 The Kirk Hammet's Facepalm is so priceless and precious

[@seffers4788]

The movie always makes me imagine if Mustaine was still in the band🥶 these segments would’ve been hilarious

[@rockfordrocker8971]

Would have been more fists and less talking if that was the case. Mustaine wouldn't have been able to tolerate all the passive-aggressive eggshell walking.

[@wyattc.]

@@rockfordrocker8971it would have been goated

[@SamaelVR]

@@rockfordrocker8971 Man that would have been awesome. Dave probably would have convinced them to ditch Lars like 20 years ago.

@@rockfordrocker8971 Dave wouldn't put up with that for 10 seconds and would loose it.

[@daydragoon331]

Let’s just say St. Anger would’ve happened a lot earlier lol

[@razmatazz9310]

4:30 Kirk like straight out of a sitcom 😄

[@nathanhyatt]

Lars, that beat STUNK

[@landonjones676]

Lars truly was and is one of the most basic drummers the world will ever have known.

[@michaelemley7318]

Lars used to be highly respected & considered a great, cutting edge drummer during Metallica’s first 4 albums. What happened?

[@zachlennon2948]

​@@michaelemley7318Other drummers from his era evolved and got better as the years went on. Lars didn't.

[@JohnSmith-vy7ck]

@@michaelemley7318 He sued Napster without James permission. Ruined the bands image. James called him a Goldman Sachs banker disguised as a drummer. Only reason he hasn’t fired him yet is because Lars would sue the band and all members and associates.

[@ferraya2894]

Just like Ringo Starr, and that doesn't make him a terrible drummer or whatever. He just does his job. Sure he's had his ups and downs (more downs than ups imo) but he's been improving over the last couple of years.

[@landonjones676]

@@zachlennon2948 you couldn’t have responded with more truth lol. Lars stayed crappy throughout it all. He is so lucky he had the James and Kirk in his life or otherwise he would be in the streets.

[@franthevan65]

People just don’t realize how hard it is to be in a band. It’s a fuckin blessing that they never broke up

[@nickh7962]

Exactly, you're constantly disagreeing with each other and everyone's power hungry to get their way. Not to mention spending countless hours in the studio. Its an incredible career but it's also excruciating

[@francescoporcari8597]

They could have split just after "and justice for all" and we wouldn't have lost anything. 30 years ago!

[@cluxx8486]

Money does that, and they make a lot of it.

[@toddgaak422]

@@francescoporcari8597 100% Cliff was the heart and soul of Metallica. AJFA was the only decent thing they did without him. Everything after is garbage.

[@ButeSound]

You know those videos where people put a brick in a washing machine... That's how I imagine being in a band is. I've recorded them not been them.

[@c.s.7097]

Literally anybody on Earth could improvise a better beat than that. BRUTAL

[@lollipop84858]

You couldn't.

[@a.r.4822]

" LiTeRaLlY"

[@hrad3080]

​@@lollipop84858 a fucking toddler could improvise better than him

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Even Peter Criss?

[@wspencerwatkins]

@@a.r.4822what does the alternating letters mean

[@ProjectCreativityGuy96]

That bongo drum is the best drum lessons sound I have ever heard!!!

[@joshwalker519]

Kirk is a really chill dude wish I had a guy with this temperament in my band we might’ve stuck together we were all just so hotheaded

[@SupOnyx]

@Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin tf 💀

[@joshwalker519]

@Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin the only thing that should dissolve is your existence my dude

[@spaghettisauce445]

@@vladimirvladimirovichputin6797 nah youre coming for the mans head 💀

[@XuliusCaesar]

@Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin I guess that means your music career is over then, doesn't it?

[@ina.aaahhh]

i sensed the anger every time james forced a laugh 💀💀

[@thomasdrivas5317]

You know what’s funny I always felt like Cliff and Kirk always had that hippy chilled personality and Kirk is reacting the very same way , Cliff would’ve. Cliff would’ve said let’s just go and play something and not fight each other More than likely he would’ve just started playing Orion or Master of puppets to get em in the mood And frankly that’s what I would’ve done if I was in cliff shoes and would’ve still been there .

[@randysavage7392]

not as much the childlike part of it, but very reminisent of George Harrison's reaction to Paul and John's bullshit if you watch get back. You can only take two of the other members participating in petty bullshit arguments for so long before you just give up when you just wanna have fun and make cool music

[@abrielrobertsson4160]

Kirk and Cliff would spend more time together as well. Their personalities were pretty similar, so yeah.

[@thembones1895]

eh who knows. Cliff was a big personality just like James and lars. I could easily see him getting just as strung out after doing this shit for another 20 years, and not being so chill about it. Remember we only saw him as a kid while the band was still on a crazy ride to the top of metal.

[@Omertahun]

Nah man. he would have made James laugh in 2 seconds and tell Lars to pull a pair of jeans and grow his hair back

[@nidavelllir6923]

cliff would've slapped one of them if that were the case

[@Leon.16]

It's funny because this is more like two parents are on the verge of divorce and their teen son tries to calm them down, than Lars and James having a conversation and Kirk trying to smooth things 😂

[@delix787]

4:57 The palm slap! 🤣

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

The little sound it makes xD

[@itwontcomeout5678]

The Face Palm Slap

[@lys_1612]

kirk trying to remain calm

[@jonnyblade46]

Haha that facepalm gets me every time. I laugh and pity them at the same time. Thanx guys for putting it out there. If I ever bump into any of you, I will thank you from my heart.

[@guy5529]

5:18 is the most aggressive door slam I've ever seen, I was half expecting the door to shatter.

[@kimmolaine8069]

It's pretty sturdy door, I must say.

[@jackpeplow1222]

Sounds better than the snare drum on St. Anger 🤣🤣🤣😉

[@XuliusCaesar]

@@jackpeplow1222 agreed. they should have sampled it and used it instead of that coffee can lars was hitting

[@narvul]

I've done and seen better.

[@TheJimbo1791]

Just thinking about the slam. It was great, it was real. It would have had more effect NOT to slam the door actually - in case this was a staged movie scene. Just closing the door in a normal way is bigger anger. Saying things in a normal way sounds more dangerous than shouting, just normal acting stuff. But when you´ve had enough and you sure as hell are not acting I know I´d do the same. This is not acting. It is living and doing things for real. Thank God they are not acting, that is what makes this such a great documentary.

[@damachine3]

Sounded like a high school garage band with that beat from Lars...maybe junior high

[@Cyrax20CDM]

Kirk always sounds like an after school special 😂

[@tomchrist777]

The communication between these guys is pretty amazing to see. It appears shitty but it must be quite good for the band to stay together for as long as they have . Its basically like a marriage and most bands dont make it very far as a result

[@anonimoosea.9423]

That's a weird thing to say

[@Dirtnap1986]

Pretty amazing communication? They were going through some shit. There was no communication. If anything James didn't even want to be in the same room as Lars. This would be around the time of the therapist. Shit James slammed the door and ended up in rehab for a year. Communication my ass!

[@tomchrist777]

@@Dirtnap1986 lol ok. I said "its amazing to see". I didnt say the communication was amazing R

[@tomchrist777]

@@Dirtnap1986 tell me you cant read without telling me you cant read hahaha

[@Dirtnap1986]

@@tomchrist777 Tell me you didn't watch the documentary without telling me you didn't watch it. Because if you did you would have known this was nothing amazing to see or anything quite good since the band was on the brink of dissolving. There was literally zero communication duffus!

[@casey896]

As someone who has been in multiple bands playing bass guitar and drums this is normal and part of the process. Plenty of raw takes that sound like garbage that no one’s into where no one’s feeling it. You can’t 100% of the time be on top of your game. I have immense respect for these guys

[@russkate88]

But you get all these keyboard bums who don't understand that.

[@lugoe98]

you dont need to be on the top of your game to laydown basic groove and keep the time. A drummers job is to keep time and to play the proper groove for the music and thats starts with the basics.

[@russkate88]

@lugoe98 yes. They're the fundamentals of drumming. You only need to be top of your game if you're pushing yourself to the limit physically or technically. You then need to be on the top of your game both physically and mentally.

[@AnnoyingOrange420]

Lars beat was comical though, the crash cymbal was kinda guaranteeing everything else wouldn’t work. The guitar riff sucking didn’t help either, he was right about that. The same beat on a ride or closed hi hat wouldn’t even be too bad.

[@russkate88]

@@AnnoyingOrange420 true

[@benlouw7009]

This doccie confirmed to me back in the day that they haven't been a band for ages, but a business.