Jason Cammisa's Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 vs BMW E30 M3 - Vintage Motor Trend Head2Head Full Episode 12

[@TermlessHGW]

Only problem with this video is that it's way too short. But good for Jason's son for picking up his father's legacy.

[@JasonCammisa]

🤦‍♂

[@radityaindera3442]

These types of comment is why I love internet.

[@shawnparadox9299]

@@radityaindera3442 I love this🤣

[@MrYKHC]

@@JasonCammisa your son is a bit short but he has the same skills as you tbh

[@cedrictheveneau9141]

If you want a longer video about it, just watch Hagerty, Jason explained this story with more details there a few months ago

[@stevekramer5192]

I own a 1987 Mercedes 190e 2.3-16v. Love the car! Been in the family since purchased in 1987! Will never sell!

[@brianbriceno1692]

Very good!

[@PerplexedPhoton]

how much do you want for it

[@evaanahmed9289]

0:00 Jason Cammisa video starts 0:02 The like button gets pressed

[@mrofftopic2802]

Do you wait for the video to start? SMH...

[@zackklein2225]

fuckin a. Him and johnny had great chemistry.

[@bentucker2301]

Why so late to like?

[@odoroussmegma2191]

you got some of Jasons shit on your nose buddy.....

[@Druze_Tito]

This is how a real review should look like - travelling back in time and reviewing the cars the year they were produced. Well done Jason!

[@FizzyMotors]

Seeing his newer videos compared to the ones made during his MT days you can tell this man is constantly improving his craft. Even after more than a decade of making videos (i think) he is still finetuning his skills in telling great stories and making the best car reviews. Such a big fan of Jason

[@cedrictheveneau9141]

Agreed ! I love Jason’s videos, I know I’ll have a great time and will stay captivated for as long as the video will last, no matter the duration

[@CPTFiXtion]

My first thought too.

[@DroneStrike1776]

Being with MT was is downfall. Being paired with Liberman was a nightmare. Liberman would bait Camissa into an argument so they spent the entire time arguing which got so annoying. I stopped watching MT once Camissa left because I couldn't stand Liberman, he's insufferable. He's a hipster, made it worst when I found out he was supporting the indoctrination of 1st-3rd grade children with LGBTQ. I saw his comments praising celebrities against Desantis on Instagram.

[@wesd991]

When you review a car so good you actually buy it on the spot

[@stefangrubesic2708]

Me thinking damn I know this car other than watching this same video in high school at MotorTrend

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

He didn't drive the nsx after a test drive..........

[@BernardGomes]

I opened KZbin by mistake and was about to close it swiftly when I saw Jason in the thumbnail and I knew I had to religiously watch it. I was great to see young Jason come so far, only developing that charm and confidence he has today to draw in and keep his audience glued.

[@keithmattioli5159]

Today I too bought a Euro 190E 2.3-16 on the spot. Can't wait to get some miles on it.

[@bharat1366]

Jason, i love you brother. Best Moto Journalist on Earth

[@keith6360]

Damn! The current value of E30 M3s then compared to now 🤣😂😩😭

[@1snausage1]

I caught that too! Anyone watching would love to buy either car at the old “current value”

[@tomfurstyfield]

190e's are cheap! At least here in the UK

[@85corolla]

@@tomfurstyfield The 16v models?

[@iHelpSolveIt]

@@tomfurstyfield what do you call cheap? If you can find the twin cam 2.3 then 2.5?

[@VILLAGEOFDEATH]

A nice E30 325i with low miles is crazy money, was buying them for £300 at one time

[@jradish]

i loved this video when it came out. thank you Jason for continuing to upload these icons of KZbin automotive journalism

[@dmalikovski]

Thank you Jason, you are a life saviour. This is our new Top Gear!

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Lol I think this came out when OG Top Gear still aired

[@Porsche996driver]

Saw these race around 1985-86 at the Hockenheimring! Was stationed in Mannheim less than 30 minutes away. 🇩🇪🏁

[@Screaming-Trees]

My first car was a 1989 E34 BMW. I loved that thing. It was kind of all I could afford as I was at the start of my career. This was 2003 or so. Loved that thing. Commuted across Sydney in that thing for years. When I got a bit of money I bought the E39 5 series in pretty much as new condition. Love those era cars. Just brilliant. I'm sure the Mercedes is also great.

[@Orcawhale1]

Holy crap, Jason's so young!

[@alexhaile7957]

Pretty dang cute, no homo

[@liammaupin9492]

@@alexhaile7957 he’s always been a stud wym

[@rooftop_dk]

So glad to see all these old Cammisa videos. I miss them.

[@don_k20]

Recently, I've tried out an 190E 2.5 16V for only 2 days and Cammisa's right: the ride is really impressive compared to the modern cars; you never had the struggle on going over bumps and it'll still give you enough feedback about the handling, making it feel like you're driving a proper car, not a lump of a daily commute just to go from point A to B. What I've also find impressive is the fact that its Getrag transmission still feels great and doesn't have that kind of annoyances that you find in cars around its age (i.e., the gears not getting in properly because of the wear), making the driving more enjoyable and hassle-free, despite of the dog-leg config. However, I found it really easy to use and never had the urge to shift it to Reverse because of muscle memory. In sum, I wish I could drive it again and, maybe, own it...

[@einekleinenatchmusik9011]

This gotta be my favourite episode ever!

[@MaelstromMephistoPEM]

I've been waiting for this ever since you started uploading stuff.

[@reidster87]

Thanks for sharing the BTS cluster story.

[@DoctaM3]

Love your story telling Jason. I a;ways learn something new! THANKS.

[@timmayhorn3731]

My buddy had the M3 but I drove the 190 2.3 16V and fell in love with it.

[@AndreThompson925]

Oh my, now I see where the Adam Sandler comparisons came from. I missed this video the first time around. Great video again (as usual)

[@SupraSav]

I'm sure you're busy with Hagerty's.. Still wouldn't mind seeing another video here. Appreciate your talent

[@Petrospect]

The shifter comparison is the most interesting bit methinks. Both dogleg and yet entirely different leagues. Shame I don't like the W201 that much, really cool car tho..especially the Evo

[@amazin7006]

@Justinian Yi Wow I didn't know that, I'll try to get that done with mine.

[@Poorschedriver]

I love looking at the specs sheet where it lists "current value" because now you need to take that number and multiply by 4

[@neelavabiswas1869]

I missed this video its back again.Thank you.

[@GERntleMAN]

A video from the archives when Jason Cammisa was in his late 20s. 1080p in 2004 is crazy

[@NoImpres.]

one of the OG vids from Cammisa 😎

[@wanazami7667]

Yes 2.3-16 shifter was a bit stiff going into 1-2 position. I had one but now have a 2.5-16 and the shifter was way improved. Smooth as butter. I drove a friend’s M3 once and l like the engine of the Cosworth better. It’s way smoother and refined compared to the BMW. Many of my friends thought it is a 6 cylinder. Also the ride of the Cosworth is very comfortable compared to the BMW. The Cosworth is a small limo and a 4 seater sports sedan all in one. Yes the rear bucket 2 seater only Recaros with head rests are bloody comfortable to seat in. My family enjoy sitting at the back during long journeys. Congrats on acquiring the Cosworth.

[@mikeisaacs2314]

That M3 looks better then any new M3

[@shahrukhbakar3248]

Legend has it that Martin Brundle, of F1 lore, said the rear suspension on the 190E was world-class.

[@cayman9873]

Jason is staying young by ingesting the souls of modern bmw's. Which is why the new cars are a mess.

[@maverickphantom005]

This is one epic episode (glad it's back on YT)

[@headwerkn]

Consider just how many times the world has been saved by the phrase “luckily, the engineers ignored them…” ;-)

[@the-boring-car-guy]

Oof I've been waiting for this one!

[@hungry4road482]

Seeing Senna driving the 190 completely on the limit always gives me chills

[@valdrinmehmeti]

Finnaly this video! Thanks man.

[@aydankhaliq2967]

Motor Trend: You act like your better than me. Jason Cammisa: I am better than you.

[@marcbjorg4823]

Those was fun... both was unable to follow the Lancia Delta Integrale. They was both slower.

[@El-Mariachi-Classics]

Amazing review❤ Really liked how he just buys the 190 on the spot :) Legend move!! both are exactly as Jason described. Had E30 325i for many years, also an easy DIY car + crazy fun to drive, true drivers car. And few month ago finally got the 190 as I always admired it too - brought home 2.3 Azzurro avantgarde Sportline model, 1 of only 950 made in total, and I daily this engineering masterpiece as it’s more “car” than the E30. When was this video made? Nice prices at that time 😮

[@AndreThompson925]

I had no idea that's how you acquired that 190E 2.3-16. (insert 90s kid looking from computer to camera with approving thumbs up)

[@chrisevans4228]

Great article about two amazing cars, you can't beat a limited edition performance car made to win in competition by a large manufacturer. I'm a huge fan of Group A and B, Homologation and the inevitable Evolution models, evocative and passionate ends of the motorsport spectrum. Due to my age, I've been very lucky to have witnessed many of these cars in full factory spec raced and rallied in anger, a true spectacle, even got to sit in some back in the day when a service area or a paddock was far less corporate with a more friendlier and open environment. Jason, what makes you're pieces just that bit better than most on these mythical categories is your superb attention to detail and facts, congrats. p.s. I think you're in Cali, if so, maybe pop along to Tim Allens lock up, I hear he has an RS200.

[@mrki412]

Mr. Cammisa I'm born in nice car era, mid 80's and I adore your style of commenting on cars, was watching top gear, fifth gear, car wow, throttle house, etc. but you are on another level of intelligence (Also Scotty Kilmer is fun to watch, but for other reasons). Keep the good job and give special care to cars like 190E and olders.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

He looks 25 yrs old in this video

[@bioduntube]

Jason has been making great videos forever

[@tomfurstyfield]

I like how you just remade this video but newer, better and longer

[@simonhudak3763]

Back when discount Sandler looked like discount Ali-G

[@Dbird613]

We are still waiting on a revisit on the E39 M5 Jason 😊

[@BLITZKRIEG1]

I didn't know Adam Sandler did car reviews

[@m.m8760]

Nice content Jase. Love the channel!

[@Chrissurfs]

1:56 , the guy with no shirt. Male nipple decorations a thing back then ? 🤣🤣 I could be watching this all day. Thank you so much for your work.

[@SirPierreSe]

I hope that you upload ALL of your old videos! =)

[@GT-Z-]

Oh my God! i taught that these early films will be deleted from youtube for ever, but they're coming back. Waiting for the VW Golf R vs Ford Focus RS film which is one of the best car films ever made!

[@Jasongy827]

I agree, I’m saving money for a good condition. I drove in one cosworth engine and the ride of that car for the 190.I love the s14 engines, high rev engine, and a inline 4.

[@jara4396]

2:00 e30 estimated value $15.000-$30.000. How the times have changed...

[@ivanjovanovic362]

M3 Evo II is something else

[@benstone5038]

I remember this when it premiered as I also own a UK spec 2.3-16. I did wonder why you used an EVO M3 ha ha

[@TheEvilPadawan]

Yes head 2 head episodes!!!!! More please!

[@puneethgowda3717]

This is my favourite episode ❤️🔥

[@JeeperZJ]

I was fortunate enough to get to drive a 190e 2.3-16 with the 5 speed dogleg box. I must admit, it was a fantastic drive and the car is surprisingly quick and obviously quite nimble. If I had more space I would certainly have been looking to pick one up.

[@flacjacket]

When are you going to throw a 3dr Sierra cosworth into the mix?

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

I once owned a Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 and it was an awesome car. Carfection just published a video about all the M3 and I made this exact comment and now... THIS video gets released. What are the odds of that?

[@uisperfectemail9720]

Same

[@Grnbaracuda]

Wow, the days when Adam Sandler had fever gray hairs like his early 20's. Glad to see that today's Jason has much more charisma.

[@luiwammes4193]

always easily forgotten in teh Mercedes 190 E 2.3 16V and BME e30 M2 story is the Ford Sierra Cosworth. This also was a very good car with a very good story. The Sierra Cosworth was the M3's biggest contender on the rally stages.

[@daniel.muntean]

Slightly off topic, but any idea what's the song around 2:52? Sounds really cool.

[@lowkeyturkish]

Who is here cause of Sreten . Thanks to him now we know jason

[@m0rsch]

5:03 was a close call with the oncoming traffic.

[@panaceiasuberes6464]

This is like a one-man Top Gear: I love it.

[@dusant4278]

Congratulations for new car !😼

[@alliancebg]

Somebody is losing weight :)) Keep it up!

[@walterrandall3951]

Love seeing this. Love the cars. Cammisa is the best

[@donnymurray5173]

I missed late 1980s...muscle sedan cars like BMW 318 M3, Mercedes 190E 2.3, Ford Sierra cosworth, Audi A4 quattro and some others.

[@colinbrassington3192]

I remember watching this on mtod. Was so angry that I had been lied to my entire life about how amazingly epic the original M3 was. Which, years later is somewhat irrelevant because I still want one…

[@gmain1977]

To be fair it was a great car , it was lightweight NA , looked cool, after E30 ,BMWs M3s got bigger

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

Thanks for the upload Jason. 7:59 you can't just tease us with a gt500 vs zl1 episode and not upload it.

[@H0tDawgWater911]

Good to see adam sandler doing car reviews

[@3storiesUp]

Can't wait to see how you get on with Sreten's E30 on tour. Is there going to be a vid ?

[@atatexan]

I had a US 16V for ten years (and 2 engine failures). Fabulous driving car but now have something like it but maybe better: a Euro Mercedes 300CE-24 Sportline mit 5-speed Getrag, like your old 300SL. The steering, handling etc. evokes the 16V.

[@Frankie_Freedom]

Absolutely love this. I'm very close to actually getting a cossie 190, its a salvage title but that is irrelevant to me as its a cool car. Which i also have a later model that im turning into an evo2 rep with an m111k sc motor and 5 speed swapping it

[@macstar8317]

M539 brought me here....

[@amirnaim3675]

Reminds me a lot of the M3 icons episode

[@gmain1977]

Great video, both great cars. But I must say muscle from almost 20 years before ran in 13s loads of them did. I am from UK and when these cars where new 60s muscle cars blew them away at lights. However these cars had balance. But I must say the Ford Sierra RS Cosworth is what I would have.

[@rickybobbyjr1581]

That’s the closest JC has looked like Sandler’s stunt double, wow

[@brandondogoncrack8907]

I thought Adam Sandler was reviewing cars until I seen Jason Cammisa in the title

[@loganritt3805]

i came down here to complain that AMG's have sports suspension and it is not intended for comfort, but he seems like a pretty good growing youtube channel.

[@simonlamacraft378]

This was an epic story and I nearly bought an M3 because (in spite of?) it, having just sold my Valiant R/T Charger (Look it up - an Aussie muscle story that aches for a Cammisa perspective (ie. no money, old truck engine made good (semi hemi) and racing development done in cut and shut mule utes (that still exist)). I'm still kicking myself that I didn't by the E30 M3 (bought a MINT E30 manual 318i as a daily instead), but hindsight is a wonderful thing, it only allows us to kick ourselves in the ass...

[@coreygolphenee9633]

My favorite part is that formula one block was an m10, the tractor 4 cylinder that went in every 320 e21. The best BMW is a e21 320 with an e30 M3 head ITBs and the full alpina trim. E30 M3 performance with a frankly more fun live axle for street driving, better interior and some glorious Bauhaus touches on the exterior.

[@ericsaxsilva3462]

$30,000 for an e30 m3? Those were the days

[@drwisdom1]

My mom had a 190E, but with the standard engine, and it was heavy and really really slow. I like the BMW better because it is sportier with just two doors.

[@greenmadness1305]

When was that recorded? Like to see young Jason 😊

[@JuanHernandez-pz2mx]

So.. THIS is when you bought your 190e, nice origin story

[@1990Thunderbolt]

Mercedes Benz = Lakers! BMW = Warriors!

[@jessegaleana500]

M4 vs Camaro SS, Z06 vs Viper ACR please uploud.

[@mspeed2441]

Come on, Cammisa. More videos.

[@mohmoudfarah1897]

I think the best way to choose which one of the two is better is, probably, to take both of them! 😂

[@firefighterps2]

I guess the Hair Club for Men really does work!

[@DroneStrike1776]

This has been recommended to me again, so I guess I'll rewatch it. This was when Jason was skinny and annoying when he's with Jonny Liberman. Liberman would always push Camissa into an argument which got tiring. On his own, he's brilliant.

[@bigchadsmall]

When did Adam Sandler get into cars?

[@k.m.abdullah5631]

When jason preferred the 190E over the m3, oh! how happy i was. Watching this again brings back the same feelings.

[@naikjoy]

subscribed I hope you'll make more.. Don't give up! You seem like you are better than anyone else at least in my view. Okay maybe Jeremy Clarkson is better but he isn't as active and might retire soon. You are still young!