Jason Momoa's Drunk Scene & More | Dune Deleted Scenes Deep Dive: Part One

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Secrets of Dune

Secrets of Dune

2 жыл бұрын

In this Dune deleted scenes deep dive we explore the different opening credits of Dune, scenes that were cut short and scenes that never made it into the final film. #Dune #DeletedScenes #JasonMomoa
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@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 2 жыл бұрын
_To break a virtuous man give him a burden too heavy to bear. A lesser man would drop it but a good man will carry it till it crushes him._ That is a fantastic line.
@rosefandom285
@rosefandom285 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great line! Why did they cut it!
@mcsquisherton
@mcsquisherton 2 жыл бұрын
Hell ya it is! Made me want to come here and comment about it. 👍 You beat me to it.
@cvmitchell9368
@cvmitchell9368 2 жыл бұрын
Chilling.
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@cvmitchell9368 I've seen it happen and it's horrible
@20mathilda
@20mathilda 2 жыл бұрын
God, this quote gotta haunted me
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these deleted scenes videos. I really hope Villeneuve releases an extended edition on Blu-ray. It would be almost criminal not to do it.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune I searched your playlists and didn't find one specifically about the deleted scenes. Can you create one for discussions of deleted scenes?
@mkultra2456
@mkultra2456 Жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune Watching all these deleted scenes and original length scripting is making me angry that we miss it all. Dune is a decent movie but it's lacking so much detail. Turns out all the detail was there from the beginning, most of it filmed! BRING IT BACK!
@LaughingMan2GIG
@LaughingMan2GIG 2 жыл бұрын
I want the full 6hrs cut. I mean wouldn't cost much to put it out and die hard fans would definitely buy it
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 2 жыл бұрын
"Shut up and take my money!"
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely pay good money to see the movie with those scenes restored. Jason Momoa started to publicly ask for a director's cut but then stopped abruptly. I suspect Denis put the kibosh on that talk. I wondered if he were instructed to do so by the suits at WB. Pity.
@christiankrueger8048
@christiankrueger8048 Жыл бұрын
Take my money as well!
@Bimfirestarter
@Bimfirestarter 2 жыл бұрын
Shucksgosh! That extended cut is highly necessary. At least to tide us mere mortals over till Dune Part II
@Realistic_Management
@Realistic_Management 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you Denis Villeneuve and your artistic integrity!! What I wouldn't do to see some of those deleted scenes...Thanks Secrets, for sharing the details of these scenes. Appreciate it!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Hopefully there's more to come.
@collina5673
@collina5673 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d like to think it’s artistic integrity, but it also comes off as pretentiousness IMO
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
AGREE! Those omissions were very important to the story of Dune. I've been wondering all along about those scenes and now realize they WERE filmed but edited out. I know he said there will be no director's cut, but honestly without more of the stuff that Denis edited out, the movie is not as strong as it could, and should, be. He should have agreed to three movies, not two. I suspect he will regret his decision as the years go by.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately brilliant directors like Villeneuve can sometimes disappear up their own assholes.
@haukionkannel
@haukionkannel Жыл бұрын
@@christinemusselman5499 The movie is already too long... Yes we Dune fans want it all, but even now the bid audience was dying out to boredom. So no wonder these were cut out. Villeneuv is walking on narrow rope between fans and bid audience and he already is at the side of fans. (Most likely too much, for his own sake :) But yeah. Extended fan version would be nice to have ;) But I am not sure if it would be economically sensible. Maybe together with Imax version? That could sell enough... maybe...
@BongoBaggins
@BongoBaggins 2 жыл бұрын
"I do not take orders from a damn Harkonnen spy." The power of that moment.
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын
So if Duncan gets drunk on Caladan, then the scene where he gets drunk in the palace in Arrakeen doesn't happen. And this guy brags that he followed the novel? Duncan never had a going-away party.
@iplaydodgeball
@iplaydodgeball Жыл бұрын
@@Shan_Dalamani so what if he didn't follow the novel exactly? God I'm so tired of "fans" like you that just feed off of this bullshit complaining about everything that isn't exactly like what came before it. So the fuck what? Grow up and stop this stupid addiction to being "a true fan" (you're not). If people like you had your way all these movies would be derivative bullshit
@jeffmarlatt6538
@jeffmarlatt6538 2 жыл бұрын
Who do we have to bribe to get these deleted scenes released to the public ? I can't believe that a 22 year old intern down in the Warner Brothers film vault can't be bought off.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
I'm willing to try haha.
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
When you find out, let us all know. TY!
@seanjenkins6947
@seanjenkins6947 2 жыл бұрын
Prisons one hell of a motivator
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately sometimes brilliant directors like Villeneuve can get weird about 'my creation' when it comes to these things. Who really owns art?
@rosefandom285
@rosefandom285 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video once again. You can see why Denis left out the scenes he did in order to streamline the central idea and flow of the film but as a die hard dune fan I would love to see them, even just as deleted scenes on the DVD Come on WB!
@abstractnonsense3253
@abstractnonsense3253 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly it
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very kind of you. I agree. It really doesn't affect your artistic integrity to include deleted scenes on a blu-ray. Those who want to see them will check them out and those who don't will ignore them. I just hope that he'll use some of them/recycle the scenes/shots in some way. That would make his stance more reasonable.
@rosefandom285
@rosefandom285 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune it’s just such a shame to know they have been shot but we can’t see them 😔 it won’t affect our love of the movie we have we just want to see more of it and scenes from the book we never got to see. I hope Denis changes his mind and does include them, we need more Dune! Thanks as always for your amazing content
@Elibel77
@Elibel77 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosefandom285 I totally agree. and I would watch that 6h marathon director's cut with no hesitation... This film watches like a meditation.
@rosefandom285
@rosefandom285 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elibel77 so true! That’s a beautiful way to put it xxx
@luminyam6145
@luminyam6145 2 жыл бұрын
This is the heartbreak of making movies from books like this. The books are so rich, and the time is so limited, directors are forced to take out parts that would really flesh out the story. Frankly, I know Denis' milieu is film but I wish he had done this as a tv series. He could have dived deeply and ppl would have gone nuts.
@stephencollins9062
@stephencollins9062 2 жыл бұрын
Several hundred Hours would cover it;)
@luminyam6145
@luminyam6145 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephencollins9062 I just get happy thinking about hours of Dune lore, history and politics. Wow, would be a wonderful series.
@haydenlane9600
@haydenlane9600 2 жыл бұрын
I am perfectly fine with the way information and exposition was conveyed in the finished movie. That being said, a LOTR style prologue for the Dune universe would have been cool as hell to see
@ZemplinTemplar
@ZemplinTemplar Жыл бұрын
My main issue with a LOTR style film prologue is that it might be hard to film in a manner that doesn't come across as "dry" (pun not intended). The LOTR prologue worked because it was fairly dynamic and moody, and showed just about enough, but the viewer didn't feel like they were having things explained to them, but rather told an old tale or someone reminescenting of what they know or heard.
@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth
@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally watching your other Dune deleted scene videos. Now this is what we want a deep dive into every deleted scene as i don't think were ever gonna get an extended cut. Thanks Rali.💯👍🏾
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watcing. My pleasure! These are a few more of these videos on the way to cover everything I have on the deleted scenes. Unfortunately I think you're right. We definitely won't be getting any deleted scenes released officially or an extended edition any time soon.
@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth
@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune Im more than happy with these vids though. After watching Dune so many times i can easily see where these scenes fit in. Imagination is a wonderful thing.🥳
@WoodenWizard
@WoodenWizard 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune if we won't see it officially, where are you getting these scenes from?
@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth
@Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodenWizard By researching, I've found a lot of the deleted scenes explained online, the book Art &soul of Dune has a lot of them described in there too.
@Neville60001
@Neville60001 Жыл бұрын
This is why we need the roadshow theatrical release to make a comback.
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 7 күн бұрын
this definitely helps, because the theatrical release was completely unsatisfactory
@willjd1170
@willjd1170 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man I pray for an extended edition in a couple of years, even its its over 3 hours I don't care I need it
@iamthesayyadina
@iamthesayyadina 2 жыл бұрын
The Reverend Mother Giaus Helen Mohiam intro might totally work as the intro to the HBO prequel series Dune: The Sisterhood, with, “This is that story.”
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I'll be talking about that soon!
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune If that's based on the Sisterhood of Dune book by KJA/BH, none of that will have anything whatsoever to do with Frank Herbert's books. It's just glorified fanfic that got published to make $$$$$$$. Soap opera crap with Vorian Atreides' daughter on Rossak... sheesh.
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын
@@hypatia137 I realized almost immediately when I read the nuDune books that some of them are totally written with TV/movie filming in mind. The camera shots and angles are practically written right into them to the point that I could imagine the ornithopter suddenly flying into view and making the audience jump if they hadn't read the book. This might be okay... if the book was any good, instead of a piece of crap.
@nagamata
@nagamata 2 жыл бұрын
After that quote from the screenwriter, all I can say is I hope WB funnels an unholy amount of cash into Dune Part 2. Give us EVERYTHING.
@halcyo
@halcyo 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, this really should have been a trilogy. It’s striking how much you realize they left out when you break it down like this.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't have minded if they included everything and then ended just after the Hakonnen attack and a reveal that Paul and Jessica are alive.
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the same thing. When they announced it was going to be a two-parter, I knew that wasn't enough time to cover the material adequately. Denis should have stood his ground and insisted on three movies!
@inventorking9124
@inventorking9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@christinemusselman5499 Denis plans to adapt Dune Messiah as movie #3.
@andrewh5568
@andrewh5568 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with making it a trilogy is splitting the story into three clean parts, where it splits in the film/book works.
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewh5568 Yeah, I know. However, the only other solution to all the missing material is to make the two movies longer, but the industry doesn't know how to deal with that. The movie could be great, but they have omitted too much. Oh well. Maybe before I die someone will make the perfect Dune movie.
@PeloquinDavid
@PeloquinDavid 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect we'll ultimately get to see at least some of the deleted scenes as part of the home video release strategy for Part II. I've already shelled out for the 4K of Part I but would happily acquire the 4K version of the combined Parts I and II set if it came with the deleted scenes and other special features (like the full IMAX-format scenes and enhanced audio...) It's only if the franchise grows further (in the wake of Part II and the lead-up to a third film (of Dune Messiah) - that will have to wait a few years according to DV, given other projects and the need for Chalamet to age a bit - that I could even imagine an extended cut release (whether overseen by the director or not) to keep the audience fires burning in the meantime...
@HarBosSar
@HarBosSar 2 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting alternative opening which opens a lot of *crucial info* to people who are new with Dune, like I was (mentats, Bene gesserits, guildsmen, why they use swords, where are the AI's, etc.). But seems too similar to David Lynch's intro where everything is explained at the beginning, so I understand why Denis left a little more mystery for us to find out by ourselves. Anyway, everyone needs to read the book to really immerse himself into all the things happening in Dune. Hope all the best for Dune pt.2. 🐍
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I honestly think that it would have been great.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think it would have done a better job at introducing the Dune universe than the David Lynch opening (as iconic as it is now).
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
You have to remember that when Lynch's movie was first released it lacked all of the explanatory scenes at the beginning of the movie, as shown in this clip. There were lots of complaints that there was too much not explained well enough.
@skylersteimle8704
@skylersteimle8704 2 жыл бұрын
I could see them opening Part II this way.
@wathsi99
@wathsi99 2 жыл бұрын
@@skylersteimle8704 that's exactly what I thought. Now that people have more context (the non book readers), it'll allow them to connect and realize the world.
@sammysoppy3361
@sammysoppy3361 2 жыл бұрын
man denis really shoulda left some of this stuff in most specifically the reverend mother stuff… would have really cleared up a lot of confusion for ppl not familiar to the book
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I've seen, most of what was cut out of the movie only adds excellent dimensions to the characters and strengthens the characters and storyline. It's such a shame that these things had to be sacrificed to make more money in the moviegoing ticket sense. All this could be made up if an extended edition was released or the deleted scenes revealed, but unfortunately it doesn't look like they ever will be.
@knightonart8886
@knightonart8886 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune Because of Denis' stupid policy of locking away deleted scenes forever. I have enormous respect for his creative vision, but it's the fans who have bought tickets to make his movie a success. Without us he wouldn't be making part 2. He needs to get off his high horse and release the damn deleted scenes and that's not too much to ask!!
@rudyvalle9022
@rudyvalle9022 2 жыл бұрын
They should have kept the stuff about a concubine’s role among the great houses. The relationship between Leto and Jessica was unclear.
@fitrahL
@fitrahL 2 жыл бұрын
Oh God, they should make this alternate movie opening & extended cut 💙
@blackdog89406
@blackdog89406 2 жыл бұрын
Loved part 1, I hope they get many Oscars. I'm EXCITED about part 2.
@B00s3
@B00s3 2 жыл бұрын
This is Great, Thank You! I know the chance of this happening is near 0, but I would love an extended cut. I'm still holding my breath for an at home IMAX cut.
@thereligion4169
@thereligion4169 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Eric Roth’s opening for part 2. To catch up those who skipped the first part and the book, and to cement the religious themes of the Fremen which are the most prominent parts of books 2 and 3.
@Jdshald
@Jdshald 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it isn't too derivative of the LOTR intro that would be cool.i like that dune is its own thing.
@ZemplinTemplar
@ZemplinTemplar Жыл бұрын
@@Jdshald Indeed. It's good that the new Dune film series has its own identity even in terms of storytelling and editing structure. I prefer it when adaptations of works, or even entirely original properties establish their own identity (not just visually, but comprehensively) and aren't trying to simply imitate what others have already done well. What I was very impressed by when I saw the first half of Dune at the cinema/theatre is that the writing and pacing weren't trying to be formulaic or chase any trends, they just went their own way, patiently and confidently.
@myopiumsongs
@myopiumsongs 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is fantastic, and I am continually impressed by the minutiae of the evolution of the final version of Dune Part One. My only question is: where can one find the earlier drafts of the script, with these missing scenes? I would *LOVE* to get a hold of that!
@suhseal
@suhseal 2 жыл бұрын
Really great reading of the dialogue. I would totally listen to an audio book if you read and recorded it.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you Ceclie. Thanks. I plan on reciting some of my favorite passages in the near future.
@mcsquisherton
@mcsquisherton 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, I don't think I've ever heard of a better collection of deleted scenes. They all sound so good.👍
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a treasure trove.
@Arnot73
@Arnot73 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Rali - Thanks
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thank you!
@darylmorse
@darylmorse 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Really enjoyed your insights.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
@jawadkazmi5327
@jawadkazmi5327 10 ай бұрын
Amazing content .The way you described and explain the last deleted scene is so good, Would have been great if it was kept. Good thing Villeneuve did keep a lot the tension between Son and mother Paul and Jessica there, the scenes are heavy. Shows the angst of the mother and also the pressure that is put on her from Bene Gesserit.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. Yeah some of the deleted scenes are really good stuff.
@joscott6476
@joscott6476 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for these clips - 🤞🏻that all the deleted scenes in the Director’s Cut xx
@jeanneil5888
@jeanneil5888 Жыл бұрын
The theatrical opening being a dream sequence is understandable since the Fremen don't have their own lasguns and just loot them
@christiankrueger8048
@christiankrueger8048 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alpenjon
@alpenjon 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. More to come!
@pablofelman5619
@pablofelman5619 2 жыл бұрын
Once again an excellent video my friend. So much didn't get to the final theatrical cut... It is a pitty but yet it was a great movie.....
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pablo I really appreciate it.
@wildemthefem5773
@wildemthefem5773 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I hope they do release an extended cut. I read the books after watching the movie, because it was great, but I was also confused. All these scenes would have put it all together, however, I understand why they released a shorter version.
@EeeDee1
@EeeDee1 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video mate. Cheers!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks friend, appreciate it.
@EeeDee1
@EeeDee1 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune keep them coming, we need a way to get our fix until Part 2 comes out
@subsonicdeathmonkey
@subsonicdeathmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@deadpope1
@deadpope1 2 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@empireindecline
@empireindecline 2 жыл бұрын
Good Job Sir... Well done
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated.
@Khannea
@Khannea 2 жыл бұрын
Denis? I am willing to pay 100 euro to watch this longer version in a cinema. What sayest thou?
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you slammed that 100 euro on the table.
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
If you fight I count yr oath fulfilled; be at rest lol (Aragorn to men of the mountain ROTK)
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome!
@dankuchar6821
@dankuchar6821 2 жыл бұрын
We need an extended release!
@Vorador666
@Vorador666 Жыл бұрын
These peaks into deleted scenes are great. Hopefully a future extended edition will come out
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I hope we will at the very least get some deleted scenes somewhere down the line.
@-_-----
@-_----- 2 жыл бұрын
MAN that Caladan Barracks scene would've been awesome.
@christinemusselman5499
@christinemusselman5499 2 жыл бұрын
The movie should have shown Duncan drinking Space Guinness.
@Bimfirestarter
@Bimfirestarter 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, Lord of Secrets, Shukran 🙏🙏
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend!
@MarkArandjus
@MarkArandjus Жыл бұрын
I remember listening to the audiobook and thinking how perfect Momoa would be for the drunk confrontation with Jessica, I was legit looking forward to it.
@coreyobserves
@coreyobserves 2 жыл бұрын
These scenes would have given the movie sooooo much more perspective!! Damn them lol
@christieratcliff1894
@christieratcliff1894 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! I’ve got that Spice Beer sticker on my laptop!
@ammanbansal2265
@ammanbansal2265 2 жыл бұрын
Rali, it's been a while since I have seen these videos of yours. So thank you so much for this video. Second, watching this video... I gotta say: the amount of details you have established are so crucial that this film indeed deserves an extended edition like the LOTR trilogy. I'd pay a couple of bucks to see an extended edition in theatres especially in IMAX. I really hope they do release an extended edition before part 2 comes out bc I feel like the amount of footage that Denis Villeneuve had to exclude in the final version was so crucial that I felt a lot of people's questions went unanswered. I've watched the film, and I felt like I was watching the LOTR trilogy all over again. Overall, an extended edition would be a wise idea. Once again, thank you so much for the content. Keep up the great work.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thank you for all your support. I agree with you and I'd love to see an extended cut or the deleted scenes in full at the very least.
@djmaus7909
@djmaus7909 2 жыл бұрын
That intro sounds amazing... maaaaybe for Part 2?
@DirMrsHQoftheScreamingGhouls
@DirMrsHQoftheScreamingGhouls 2 жыл бұрын
That would have all been cool to see and I appreciate you making these videos. Its weird how different a film can be with a few changes. I love what we got and feel like the deleted scenes and changes made were necessary to make the hypnosis of the film work but on the other hand I'm sure I would have loved the film had it not been quite as dreamlike. It feels like a choose your own adventure situation where the movie we got was just one of the possibilities, a beautiful one but now I want to go back and see what would have happened if I had chose to follow Duncan to page 50. Thanks again for making these
@paulnoirromero8564
@paulnoirromero8564 2 жыл бұрын
they could re-edit the 8hs of Dune de Lynch in 3 movies of 160 minutes, as well as make a new edition to add the deleted scenes of the Dune de Villeneuve
@OceanSwimmer
@OceanSwimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel! Lots of interesting deleted scenes. I read the Dune books decades ago, and would like to read your analysis of this version of Jessica. I was somewhat put off by her emotional responses --- her exaggerated facial expressions, weeping, and critique of Paul's use of the Voice....(which, after all, saved them from the Harkonnen assassins in the ornithopter.) Rebecca Ferguson's Jessica seems to lack the self control and regal bearing of Francesca Annis (from David Lynch's Dune). ----- Anyone else?
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
No I hear you and I actually agree. I would have liked to see a much more cold, poised, calculating Bene Gesserit in Jessica, while still retaining her love for her duke and her son. I feel that We got humans of today transported to the Dune universe in 10,191 AG rather than seeing evolved humanity of 10,191 AG with the changes that those universal events would create in humans. Of course humanity still express emotions, but I think they could have portrayed that differently.
@OceanSwimmer
@OceanSwimmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune -- That's what was so formidable about Francesca Annis: her Jessica was regal, formidable, and dignified. Extremely calculating, but devoted to her Duke. Kyle McLaughlan's Paul had the physical attributes of a military education (ramrod straight posture) and --- while not muscle bound, was an effective killing machine. He portrayed the reserve and regal demeanor as well. Timothy Chalumet will need months of training to adopt the muscle he needs. The 2 other characters, Thufir Hawat and Pieter deVrise were equally unimpressive in this version. Who can forget Pieter's litany in Dune 1984 (which is not in anywhere in the book) " It is by will alone I set my mind in motion....etc." Genius screenplay. Oh, well! If this franchise goes to 12 films, they have plenty of opportunities to screw it up. Did NOBODY in the cast read the books except Javier Bardem and Babs Olusanmokun? Rebecca's Jessica is more conflicted than Frank Herbert's: After Paul kills Jamis, Chani takes Paul to the Reclamation Chambers, explaining Paul must accept Jamis' water. Paul is uncomfortable with that, and tells Jessica he want to refuse acceptance. Jessica tells him he will accept Jamis' water -- not because she opposes his will, instead to indicate there are ramifications he has not considered. As a result, Paul accepts Jamis' water. Frank Herbert built unity and trust between mother and son. I submit this version of Dune fails to show this. It's an important point. Without that trust, Paul could not grow to be the man he becomes.
@talimomolapo128
@talimomolapo128 2 жыл бұрын
I feel I like we have denied an abashedly loyal adaptation of the book in exchange for a ‘shallow but still great studio blockbuster’.
@Elibel77
@Elibel77 2 жыл бұрын
That opening is also very much reminescent of Princess Irulan's speech in Lynch's version. This intro, now made obsolete by the LoTR - it would look like a pastiche - was actually a nice "quote" at the structure of the book: a exerpt from a fictional book (usually by Irulan) about the history of Arrakis. So meta.
@TurquoiseOrmZ8
@TurquoiseOrmZ8 2 жыл бұрын
Look forward to Extended Edition! I was just thinking; would film-companies release theatrical versions for Cinema, then eventually release Extended versions in shape of mini Tv-series for film streaming?
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was the original idea for the Snyder Cut but they worked something else out. I think with the way streaming services are going there is definitely potential to release Dune in that way or just release a whole extended cut for example, but if it doesn't have the backing and support of the director, I can't see that happening.
@lordforages8319
@lordforages8319 2 жыл бұрын
i hope denis released the extended cut of dune just like what peter did in lotr
@beccymay701
@beccymay701 2 жыл бұрын
Really great to have this info but it makes me a little sad all things that were cut that we will likely never see.
@yoseidman4166
@yoseidman4166 5 ай бұрын
Drunk Duncan confronts Jessica is so important to the story. Hoping to see it in extended cut. The fact that they did not do the dining table scene, really undermined telling the story. I understand it is expensive and time consuming to do a formal dining scene right but it was a pivotal piece of the plot development showing the dynamics of Dune and Paul's coming of age and Jessica's training and role in House Atreides. Finally, the scene of Thufir Hawat confronting Jessica in her room includes the key to Herbert's entire series by showing the Bene Gesserit strategic thinking openly for a brief glimpse. Since they will show Hawat's capture, they should have laid the foundation for it with his talk with Jessica after the Drunk Duncan scene. That scene is pivotal to the rest of the story. So I love the movie because of the aesthetics which are beautifully done, but they skipped essential pieces of the plot.
@thetrison
@thetrison Жыл бұрын
Jason Momoa would shave his beard for one man. 'Tink' [Denis Villeneuve] LMAO.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune Жыл бұрын
I couldn't resist putting in that pic of Denis Villeneuve in shades smiling.
@thetrison
@thetrison Жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune Simply brilliant.
@evilchaperone
@evilchaperone Жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the master cut comes out one day. Doesn't matter what the director says. If the studio can make a buck, they will do it.
@davidoran123
@davidoran123 6 ай бұрын
Really would like that extended version...please.
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 2 жыл бұрын
In another trailer, when she said "His safety requires deadlier weapons," for a second I thought she said "His safety requires nuclear weapons."
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
*Gurney shouts* "ATOMICS!"
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and notice they never mentioned family atomics at all in part one.. are they left in orbit to be retrieved to deploy later..they weren't just in a backpack lol.. the way the Shield Wall is taken down has to be different to way Lynch did it as Villeneuve seems constrained by need to be different to him.. so.. missile flashing from above reeking havoc!? Mushroom cloud like in Crimes of Grindelwald vision of future?
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilmurphy966 I'd imagine they came along on the highliner. Nukes are actually not that difficult or unstable to handle (although there is a high risk of losing track of them). They have so many security interlocks that it's practically impossible to trigger them accidentally.
@ToTunez
@ToTunez 2 жыл бұрын
the scenes you mentioned do really exist in one of the screenplay's final draft. But i still cant find this particular scene in the screenplay where Paul interacted with a stable boy and gifted him a horse
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
It's not in the Dune draft or Dune shooting script but it was definitely shot. I'll be covering that in the next part.
@jennabronson4704
@jennabronson4704 2 жыл бұрын
I think the decision to go with the cinematic opening was to showcase Zendaya (who got the young demographic into theater seats) and talk about Fremen oppression, which better checked a diversity box for Oscar requirements.
@festo8756
@festo8756 2 жыл бұрын
Which do you think was the better Dune copy. Stargate or Nausicaa and the valley of the wind?
@doobadood
@doobadood 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure extended cuts would increases home media receptions commercially. And WB wont just give it up if it is money. Thats why I'll never gonna lose hope for that cut
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm thinking. I don't think WB will ever stop trying to pursue those potentials with Dune, no matter how many times it falls through.
@juanserna6322
@juanserna6322 Жыл бұрын
God damnit we need an extended edition
@RoadtoNowhere73
@RoadtoNowhere73 Жыл бұрын
Wish they filmed and or kept all of it!
@Ahmed-lz6ny
@Ahmed-lz6ny 2 жыл бұрын
They should've left the caladan party scene to show that Duke leto is somewhat aware of the emperor's grand scheme like he is in the boom.
@manakin5
@manakin5 2 жыл бұрын
"Jason Momoa will shave his beard for one man." Seriously, I lol'ed.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@AniMageNeBy
@AniMageNeBy 2 жыл бұрын
If I may ask... just like with your vid about the details of the banquet, do you mayhaps have more details about the scene of the greenhouse? I believe it's confirmed they actually shot it, as Ferguson herself mentioned it. I would love to hear more details about it.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
There's no sign of them in the scripts but it may have been filmed.
@AniMageNeBy
@AniMageNeBy 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune Hmm. Is that even possible? I mean; if they filmed it, shouldn't there have been a script about it somewhere? Can't imagine they filmed a scene at random without anyone knowing what to do or say...(?) I'm pretty sure they have shot that scene, because - maybe you've seen it as well - there was an interview, and Fergusson was saying to Denise: It's a pity that scene didn't go into the movie, can't you still add it? and Villeneuve looked a bit puzzled about what she meant, but then he seemed to remember. I think, with all the deleted scenes you mentioned here - well, some of them might have to be adapted a little bit - Villeneuve could make an "extended version" just for fans. I would sure buy it/ go watch it (a third) time! ;-) What do you think of it? BTW, of all the deleted scenes, the deleted one-liner I thought the best was the one of the baron, where he said the thing about an honest man being crushed under the burden he was given. That surely should have remained in there.
@catherineblack2970
@catherineblack2970 2 жыл бұрын
In the book Duncan is confronted by Lady Jessica about his being drunk and behaving BADLY and he calls her a "damned Harkonnen spy". She SLAPS Duncan in the face.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been awesome to see that.
@catherineblack2970
@catherineblack2970 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune yeah it would. But the director had somewhat changed the tone of the relationship between the characters. Jessica in the book was saddened by this and made a comment about Duncan being very popular with the ladies.
@jonnyfranks5879
@jonnyfranks5879 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Pituqat
@Pituqat 2 жыл бұрын
These were all fantastic. Much better intro. Why weren't they included?
@rickyrahma3611
@rickyrahma3611 2 жыл бұрын
The lore intro was a really good idea. I think that if they dont want to include that in the movie they can always put that in the upcoming series about the bene gesserit. That would be great
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын
People would have the same reaction to the Lynch movie with even the shortest introduction by Irulan: "Is this a documentary?" I heard that whispered in the theatre.
@stonedfinn3649
@stonedfinn3649 2 жыл бұрын
The voiceover prologue in combination with some of the other deleted scenes, like the extended Paul-Duncan-dialogue, would've been tremendous even though it might have felt very similar or copied from to LOTR prologue.
@jawadkazmi5327
@jawadkazmi5327 10 ай бұрын
6:27 To break a virtuous man give him a burden to heavy to bear. A lesser man would drop it but a good man would carry it till it crushes him.
@Hashbandocoot
@Hashbandocoot Жыл бұрын
Dennis doesn’t do deleted scenes because he knows they are incredible and everyone would be disappointed they were in there. Like the gurney fight scene switching from him to Paul and Jessica. That would have been awesome. And his first spice visions being more than Zendaya would have been better. Actually explaining how he knew she was pregnant
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see the Dune you just narrated.
@lianeatlarge
@lianeatlarge 2 жыл бұрын
When are you doing a recording for the Calm app? :)
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the phone call 😂 Thank you Liane!
@AMore429
@AMore429 Жыл бұрын
There’s usually a good reason why it’s left out 😅
@onetruekeeper418
@onetruekeeper418 2 жыл бұрын
Singing and drinking was also part of the training at the Ginaz School where Duncan Idaho trained to be a sword master.
@natellareal
@natellareal Жыл бұрын
I haven`t read the book yet neither watched the first movie adaptation, I had no idea Paul was only 15 years old in the movie.
@atomlao
@atomlao Жыл бұрын
I cant way for the extended cut, or even the directors cut
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 Жыл бұрын
I will hire Sardaukar to go after Villeneuve if he doesn't release an extended edition.
@Craig_Narramoore
@Craig_Narramoore 11 ай бұрын
All these deleted scenes just reenforce the fact that he screwed up the movie in the cutting room.
@micahluthi7712
@micahluthi7712 Жыл бұрын
Lol, Drunken Idaho
@julesguermonprez1392
@julesguermonprez1392 2 жыл бұрын
Did any of such scripts include... ...the beetle shot in the Duncan vision?
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
None of them do, which seems as though it was a spur of the moment inclusion and not something that was consciously decided in the filmmaking process.
@julesguermonprez1392
@julesguermonprez1392 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune thanks for the precision. PS : I maintain the one we get in the finished film is a stealthy Bene Tleilax setup in case of third movie.
@ryanlts_9684
@ryanlts_9684 2 жыл бұрын
So you are telling me we originally got Drunken Idaho?
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
It's in the shooting script so yeah pretty much.
@elizabethstump4077
@elizabethstump4077 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will come out with a version of Dune with all the deleted scenes incorporated back in - a Director's Cut.
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Denis is adamant that the theatrical cut is the director's cut, but I'd love to see an extended edition like we saw with the LOTR editions some day.
@joaovictorkelima2551
@joaovictorkelima2551 2 жыл бұрын
Whazzup Ralí!!!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Hey 😁
@balecalduin1993
@balecalduin1993 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they didn't start the movie with a ton of exposition. Way to kill an introduction. If you want to hear an audiobook, just get the audiobook (Honest Trailer reference here). I recommend it too, Dune is a great book
@pseudonymousbeing987
@pseudonymousbeing987 2 жыл бұрын
Where is that clip at 0:09 from? It's gorgeous!
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
It was created by Raphaël Dufour: instagram.com/raphael.dufour www.imdb.com/name/nm11842710
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
Awww, the story of Krypton shown by Jor-El in Man of Steel! I agree that exposition adds vitality if done right, esp in an epic story.. maybe Villeneuve needs a team of equals to debate the structure.. tho I don't know of Peter Jackson was any more democratic but get feeling was a wider team..and was more flexible!?
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
Love the opening scene from Man of Steel. I think PJ is way more flexible.
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
@@secretsofdune and from Man of Steel, Michael Shannon had intensity to be a great Shaddam IV, and such a good actor.. need a strong screen presence for the Padishah Emperor!!
@WickedMo13
@WickedMo13 2 жыл бұрын
They should have went with this opening
@Mecca4BA
@Mecca4BA 2 жыл бұрын
They removed so much good stuff tho.
@HarBosSar
@HarBosSar 2 жыл бұрын
There is only *one thing every girl* wants, and it *starts with a P and ends with a S...* . . . . . Yep, it's Paul Atreides... 😉😆
@secretsofdune
@secretsofdune 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@neilmurphy966
@neilmurphy966 2 жыл бұрын
The actor playing Feyd in Part Two is pretty cute too 😀
@albinomexirican4959
@albinomexirican4959 2 жыл бұрын
Damn!! I would’ve love to seen this, it’s almost criminal. Don’t get me wrong I liked the movie we got but I would’ve loved this version.
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