This Silver Is *ACTUALLY* Stuck In Elo Hell... (We Made Him Prove It In A DIAMOND Lobby)

[@foxroyal1388]

That girl was annoying not letting him play for a second plus the toxic comm at the start.

[@fistofram5526]

women be womaning

[@lewis8616]

@@WhosSpqhwho is LW ?

[@cryptified1024]

@@lewis8616 lightweaver

[@gumiicat]

@@lewis8616 lifeweaver

[@lawrencegeorge1201]

@@lewis8616life weaver

[@ZzPuK]

the first girl who is talking to him like a child needs to stop. some of her call outs are just pointless. she is the queen of yapping

[@chiefinasmith]

“Let’s shit on this silver” & then proceeds to be the most insufferable person of all time

[@CentsGD]

the silver player can think for himself, the back seating is CRAZY

[@sixxityy]

its called coms

[@LilPlunge]

@@sixxityytelling someone how to play the game isn’t comms

[@Bbistheman_]

They typically can't

[@oxydoreduction2483]

@@LilPlungewell he’s silver so it’s good for him to be led by the diamonds

[@LilPlunge]

@@oxydoreduction2483 the whole point is to see if he belongs in their rank. They should treat him as they would any other player

[@V0iDWALK3R_]

His team was full of obnoxious comms and backseaters, no wonder why he seemed a bit overwhelmed. Most of those comms were not helpful at all and just cluttered the call

[@doublelizard767]

Yeah, you don't really need to be in the vc until low GM.

[@ale3for913]

@@doublelizard767 Until you've got someone who's been top 10 at least*

[@doublelizard767]

@@ale3for913 you're smoking crack. stop.

[@Ptr-ck7if]

deepwoken

[@zora508]

W pfp btw

[@tyler755]

It looks like he was just a bit overwhelmed at the speed of the other teams. His awareness is great for his rank and he's definitely better than most silvers that we've watched, for sure.

[@Mr_Lenz]

I was overwhelmed but not by team speed but rather the scale of people watching. In my league we play against diamond-gm regularly so I've become accustomed to the speed and it is def some of the reason I can't climb because I want to go fast but silvers golds etc can't move as fast as I want.

[@tyler755]

@@Mr_Lenz I can believe that for sure. Eyes on can be daunting 🤣 why don't you and your league mates climb it out?

[@Mr_Lenz]

@@tyler755 Well we try which is the funny thing but the biggest issue comes to whenever we have a master's player who cannot play his main role in low rank because he gets tilted cuz he doesn't understand

[@ThaVolt999]

@@Mr_Lenz You made them go Zar/Bastion, deep down, that's a win.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodjinx]

​@@Mr_Lenzlol I feel that! Being stuck on support as a dps main is agony.

[@pappaal]

She kept telling him how to play. That was cringe. Let him "block block block" when he thinks he should. She should be worries about playing her hero and stop making shotty calls.

[@Onceler_Kinnie]

Ong his team was way too passive even on the attack they called him to fall back a load before point was even taken we played it really well but his team was too scared

[@Alig80r]

She was fine

[@TUNIT42]

@@Alig80r She was 12-16 as Mei... that's hard to do even if you are throwing.

[@LilxPepto]

she was gross

[@error404webpagenotfound]

​@@TUNIT42 honestly though. She was paying so much attention to the tank and trying to babysit him. Had she paid more attention to what she should be doing, she may have done a bit better. If she wants to babysit then she should play support.

[@trachea7870]

Eastybug consistently giving the worst comms in OW 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@ToddWainio710]

Jeez Eastybug bossed everyone around all game and giving advice that everyone already knows yet died constantly

[@-Pepsimax-]

NAH FOR REAL THOUGH?!? I WAS SO ANNOYED THE WHOLE VIDEO CONSTANTLY HEARING THEM 😭😭

[@SM-ok3sz]

I’m surprised anyone can think with her constant voice spam.

[@Un-motivated]

I’m shocked she didn’t get muted

[@tagadaki]

Oh I haaateeee when people are flooding with comms that are useless, then you don't actually hear the good and usefull comms. I have a friend who never stops talking in games, sometimes we have to tell him to stfu 😆

[@colinfierro2967]

Eastybug also was just horrible, 12-15 at the start of overtime omg

[@CursedPR]

I cant believe how sweaty those people were "lets destroy this silver tank" and go pick the counters to his tanks. They ironically gave him the respect he deserves.

[@volkatrongaming5332]

I gotta be honest, first game offense, when he ram ulted, he had NO support. They were hyper focused on “3 on point” logic and not helping him team wipe with that ult. Priorities.

[@fin3662]

It would've been a huge ult if he canceled his guy mode before ulting for the extra armor and just commed the ult way earlier, by the time he said "im gonna ult here" he was already in his ult for a full second or so

[@Not2sure]

The chick in his team for the first match was unbelievably annoying . Like she disregarded him almost instant then tried to get him to switch and change his style . So annoying

[@LuizStormwrath]

And she never stopped talking, I bet she was talking more than Jay3 during the matches

[@EastyBugTV]

Hi there! I want to explain, I talked with everyone on the team between matches and beforehand, and no one felt pressured by me! I consistently asked what they wanted me to run, where to go, etc and made that clear from the get go - we even had a discussion on stream that probably got cut from the video - about just that. I asked what he wanted, he said ashe, it was not a good ashe day. I also had a moment in between games where it was explained that due to a medical issue, I was having a very hard time using my mouse. Any point where aim was important, yeah I lagged behind. And i apologized multiple times for it. You don't always know what goes on, and everyone in the lobby understood what was going on since I was talking about it off screen. Even the guy said he had fun, that's what should matter; it costs nothing to just be nice and - to quote Coach Koby - realize everyone has bad games.

[@Alanhslc]

@@EastyBugTV Just out of curiosity, are you this communicative in solo queue?

[@EastyBugTV]

​@Alanhslc yes I am! I mainly play mystery heroes with my group and am the only one doing calls, couple that with me being a tank main, I typically try to be talkative. I even talk through first rounds and then realize no one is in vc at times Edit:// I find it way more fun to talk and make calls, and as a CC myself it comes more often than casual players. I've been thanked for my comms more than not so I just have it as a habit now :')

[@aven2rine.]

@@EastyBugTV I assign you Schrift "Y" for Yapper.

[@D2Husk]

eastybug is in elo heaven she belongs somewhere else lmao

[@evennoiz]

bronze for sure

[@yViole]

That one girl who kept acting as a "igl" and kept trying to tell him what to do needs to stfu like holy jesus

[@whitebwoi]

girl igl lolol

[@francoisturgeon1176]

THATS WHAT GIRL DO IN THIS GAME ... they are shit playing support can heal , can aim .. but they have no fuckiung clue of whats going in the game their positioning is always ...

[@pikachuisop123beee9]

@@whitebwoi being a girl has nothing to do with it but her trying to claim the role of igl wasnt needed i agree

[@Alicia-f4r]

​@@pikachuisop123beee9 Girl igI is cringe tho just admit it

[@pikachuisop123beee9]

@@Alicia-f4r there is no problem with having a female igl thats just you being sexist

[@Zencep]

For anyone who notices the teams didn't switch in the video, we did do one with the teams switch but it was not included in the video. So you're only seeing 2 out of the 3 games we ran.

[@JakeySchmo]

Fr or Ong ❔

[@anatolydyatlov963]

Omg I thought I was going insane for thinking that those guys sounded exactly the same

[@Mr_Lenz]

@@anatolydyatlov963 yea it was bad the second game we got rolled but it was honestly still fun cause they went full sigma/ Winston counters

[@ItsOOOPS]

what happened when they switched?

[@Mr_Lenz]

@@ItsOOOPS we got slammed it was bad 😂

[@DONTKNOW602]

i hate the girl so much first match. the girl keeps disagreeing with the tank . alot of time shes wrong too .

[@SM-ok3sz]

She is the worst.

[@twitch6071]

women

[@Puwitt]

She was also 12/16 as dps😂she jealous she sucks so bad

[@Maakkiam]

@@twitch6071🤨

[@bushsbakedbeans3777]

Yea i ain't decided but i feel girls just ain't as good​@@twitch6071

[@raens9439]

This girl definitely got carried to their rank lmao holy shit they suck. Comms are just cluttered and most of the callouts were just unhelpful at all 😂

[@JamesWilson9777]

The girl shot caller was so obnoxious on comms.

[@flamescion4946]

From a college player's perspective, you'd be surprised how different the game is when you're playing in an esports setting as opposed to ranked at times. Imo, really teaches you how to get a lot better at the game. I had teammates that were diamond and masters players on my team but I (Silver back when I joined) was able to keep up because playing with them helped me learn to see from their perspective. Most people play a lot better when they have a full team to communicate with also. Helps them understand what's going on a lot better when they can talk it out

[@Blan-Kitt]

There's a sort of saying that I've heard repeated in both OW2 and League of Legends; that you improve a lot faster and better when you're against higher ranked people. It definitely does help having higher ranked friends or teammates communicating with you, and suggesting ways to improve or showing you why X is the right/wrong answer to Y. For instance in my first few games of OW2 (I just started about 2 or 3 months ago, and it's my first FPS game ever lol), I didn't know pretty much anything about OW or the characters and was mostly just overwhelmed, but I know because I played with higher ranked friends I was able to quickly learn to try to pay attention to key things, and then to pay attention to things that were off screen from time to time (I'm a support/tank main so this one was important). One of my early examples of this was me playing Kiriko for one of the first times, and the enemy team having an Illari. My friend told me to Suzu when the Illari ulted, and I did.... It just happened to be... not when she launched the projectile, but right as she said the line and started to rise up. However after she told me what she meant with it, I was able to nail it the 2nd Illari ult around and save my friend and I from a sunburn death.

[@drouzyy]

@@Blan-Kittthat goes for every game. You okay against people better than you to get better

[@mochoman312games2]

For me it made me not enjoy gaming I was in it for r6 and everyone was just dogging me and I was just so hard on myself now when I open a game I'm like is it just better not to play because I will drag people down

[@bbcasper6412]

silver tank goes 23-9, diamond mei goes 12-15 lmaooo 13:22

[@twinrixone5295]

can't compare tank to dps stats that way but that's indeed a bad dps Stat for being negative (tanks should have the lowest deaths beside support)

[@favlam1408]

it's a sigma vs a mei, huge difference in stat level

[@blueisbest2068]

@@twinrixone5295I would trust a diamond dps to have better stats on everything including mit depending on character than a silver tank any day

[@D2Husk]

@@twinrixone5295 that mei was bossing everyone around with her gold callouts and feeding aat the same time

[@2ndToLast501]

Boosted Mei

[@Primal_Echo]

Lmao, the "i could run each map backwards!" Followed by the immediate self reflection. 😂😂😂 That made me laugh, i respect the humility and the humor. ❤️

[@angel-ul5el]

that one girl didnt shut up all game and was throwing lmao

[@dudleygt3327]

I noticed first match he wasn’t getting really healed

[@_treed1]

when I played for a college team, we just started it and we all were just mid at the game and our second tank's rank was bronze/silver boarder. He sure showed that rank when we first played but after scrimming and doing some vod reviews, and with him being open to all advice and critiques, he became sooo much better and much more reliable. It was really cool to be in organized play for a bit

[@alexJG_Shorts]

That's insane that he's Silver, I couldn't believe it. I'm a high Plat tank player and he's doing things I simply can't in some of the fights. Nuts

[@infinity2290]

Same here I’m plat too and this crazy

[@jonata.torres4640]

Skill issue

[@Hietakissa]

I think he's better than silver for sure, would probably fit better in plat based on his performance in this video, def not diamond though.

[@PVPTACOGUY]

He's diamond dps tho

[@vandekust8966]

Ur just a boosted plat than

[@LilyPadVT]

If this guy is silver, than I belong in bronze

[@aunahsan1465]

eastybug belongs in silver

[@LilxPepto]

honestly maybe lower

[@Team98]

She was on stream. She had a medical issue and was just having a bad day

[@jacobj3491]

@@Team98 bruh you're buying that? oh my shoulder hurts I'm gonna be bad at video games now

[@lonleybeer]

Not even bronze

[@seaottar25]

Comms does seem cluttered. It does happen, I have adhd myself so I’m no stranger to stream of consciousness call-outs but it’s also good to learn how to do it without taking focus from your team. Personally I like to group call-outs into two categories, Notices and Actions. Basically ‘important information the team should know’ and ‘actions that the team should take’ Examples of notices are: ‘reaper flanking, he has ult’, ‘they have nano blade’, ‘echo switched to widow’. Examples of Actions are: ‘we have four ults, let’s use nano blade next fight, nothing else’, ‘let’s speed boost straight onto point and hold there’, ‘I’ll come with you soldier, let’s flank left side’ ,‘Stack on Sym’, ‘Rein needs care’, ‘tracer’s slept, 3 2 1’, But generally if you’re going for that win, less is more with call-outs bc mentally filtering the important information out of long sentences does take focus away from things in front of you. Of course if you’re just playing with buddies trying to have a good time then it doesn’t matter haha.

[@Mr_Lenz]

I'm originally a high rank siege player so call outs are my specialty just usually not this fast paced which is what I'm working onatm

[@seaottar25]

@@Mr_Lenz yea understandable, overwatch is very fast paced which makes short n sweet callouts all the better. I made my initial comment on the overall state of comms on the team, I noticed it most from one of the ladies making the calls, I do think you could have performed a lot better with less voice clutter from the team. I think the two main call-outs for tank are ‘I need help/care’ and any positioning changes you’ll be making like ‘dropping off high ground’, ‘taking a second here to let my shield recharge’, ‘I’m gonna push high ground’. Ow2 being single tank means you’re solely responsible for making and holding space, so it’s important to let your team know what space you plan to take or let go of so they can plan their own repositions. I main support so while competent supports are able to somewhat read the fight and position according to our tank, a heads up before an aggressive play or a fast retreat helps a lot and we can invest resources to help our tank.

[@CouchPotatoCrusader]

Yeah. The comms in this video was actually annoying me. They need to keep it simple and not long sentences, talking over each other etc it's distracting and takes away ur attention

[@amaateraasuuu]

no way, dude does not belong in silver.

[@Nexusquo]

His Orissa looked super silver. His Sig was good but he couldn’t really make much happen just had hood shield control and aim. I would’ve guessed gold.

[@hestia4709]

His aim was good but he want to use his cooldown more often instead of waiting a perfect shot

[@PVPTACOGUY]

He's diamond dps, sp thats the aim and awareness

[@lyhthegreat]

best way to climb out of silver is with roadhog as a tank..

[@Sc7ut]

​@@Nexusquo His orisa is obviously not polished, however he obviously doesn't belong in silver looking at his sigma

[@iknowimanidiotbut..2804]

Was it the obnoxious cocky girl that threw the game?

[@EastyBugTV]

No throwing was done aside from Owen /lh 😊

[@z3tnn]

you're ass lmao all you do is complain and yet you preform terribly @@EastyBugTV

[@zrxex6552]

@@EastyBugTVyou definitely threw.

[@skellyjohn6917]

@@EastyBugTV you really need to drop the ego after getting shown up by silver player lol

[@fistofram5526]

@@EastyBugTV Women in gaming xd

[@R3alman0fG3Nuz]

He never switched teams so he never got to switch off the throwing mei

[@LAZLO189]

Preach brotha!

[@MikeRetroModz]

I thought I was the only one who noticed lol

[@expireddoom]

Winton primary won't ignore armor directly, it ignores the damage reduction Armor provides. So it just damages armor like it's normal health.

[@bruhmoment4338]

that's basically saying it ignores armor entirely

[@cjerp]

@@bruhmoment4338 The armor is still there though, just as a health stat

[@Ismail-kv3ex]

@@cjerp I think the point is, regardless on if the enemy has armour or not, it won't feel any different for the Winton player

[@BlueRiptide]

@@Ismail-kv3exthat doesnt mean it ignores armor entirely tho. just a word issue

[@StarsetFlight]

Are there this many people that can't read or do we still think "Winton" is funny? 🤔

[@RTXDV]

dude , he is lost with all their random calls , they are calling " monkey on me" ,"genji on me" as if he knows who they are or what they sound like , they should at least give him a proper call by including there hero in the calls , not just using "me" ,,, thats why he is a bit lost and looking around tons with that slow sens of his ,,, its giving him a really good aim but cant scan the surrounding properly ,,, but still he managed to keep up ,,, props to him overall he is really stuck in silver and i would give him even a higher rank than Dia ,,, good vid , great effort from all ty Jay

[@jadeelison4036]

To be honest, he wasn’t getting healing every time he fought the tank, the mercy was dick riding that zarya and neither of his supports gave him heals, at least that’s what I noticed 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MEGURMAN]

One thing I noticed that's easy to change I think, and it's that he sometimes need to cancel nemesis form more often as Ramattra

[@random_person1257]

Exactly what i was thknling as somwone who plays alot of ram when u dont need it start up the cooldown as well u can then shoot the ppl ur out of range of

[@lyhthegreat]

yeah noticed that too, it's like he stays in melee form until it runs out and he punches when everyone's out of range.

[@KennethBryant86]

I couldn’t imagine playing with her my god she’s killing the comms she needs to focus More on playing her character than giving him direction

[@doctor_puff]

Ima pull out that hurting shoulder excuse next time I’m throwing my games

[@NukeOW]

“Im not playing 100% my shoulder hurts” whatt the helllllll😂

[@EastyBugTV]

When your dominant shoulder you use for aim/shooting is unable to move without excruciating pain, you also would mention it :')

[@skellyjohn6917]

@@EastyBugTV damn sorry your aim was hurt on mei lol

[@ItzK0zy]

@@skellyjohn6917 how u die 16 times in yo rank das nasty work straight feeder😂 buddy had no help

[@luciamurray1838]

@@EastyBugTVyeah but you do need to understand that overcomming exists. Especially when it’s not important call outs/not relevant to the game. Flooding the comms with stuff that doesn’t matter is something that will not help you get better. It’s been like nearly a year since your comment so I hope you’ve learnt! Also, this comment might be helpful to some others🖤

[@mr.meeseeks54]

I'm a master tank and I'm sure my sigma game is on the same level as this silver tank. I mean, there's really a big difference between him actually being able to play consistently at that level like he showed us. I guess that must be his real problem, because with his awareness alone (and also his excellent technique) he would never achieve silver. keep it up :) And by the way. I would have lost with this team too xD “Stack 3 on the pilot to be faster” - instead of constantly picking and pushing. They also use ults after the fight was lost... diamands should know better.

[@dawnrays6161]

The one tip I’d have for Ramattra is to learn when to purposely end Nemesis form early. Yes, you want to get the max amount of value out of it but you also want it when you need it.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodjinx]

I agree! To add, always ask "what am I doing here?" If it's not pressuring someone or using the buffs end it. Not only for the faster cool down but also the poke and shield are great for in between

[@VLMNTI]

Mercenary is a sick name for a Mercy player. But seriously, dude deserves higher lobbies for sure. He could easily keep up in high Diamond lobbies.

[@bananamonkeygaming14]

thats pushing it tbh

[@Alex_Aramayo]

Not rly I would say Plat he was already getting overwhelmed by the Diamonds

[@AngrySecs]

Mercynary

[@ZykoYFF]

Did you just say a silver tank can hold their own against basically masters players? 😂 The guy who rocked a Winston shield, inted and fed zarya charge as ram and was lost on the horse can hold his own against masters players, ok bud

[@Alex_Aramayo]

@@ZykoYFF dude Diamonds are NOT Masters that's for damn sure

[@Baddie-tz8rw]

he played so well but it feels like he played so nervous, but what else do u really expect, i'd be panicking so much

[@ame367]

This guy looks really good on Sigma! Only thing I would say is to use the shield more often because Sigma's shield has such a short cooldown to move its position, and sometimes I noticed he wasn't using his shield, like in the grav for instance at 17:46 he probably should have used his shield first to protect his team which could have potentially saved someone. Overall not bad at all, I'm sure he'll climb a lot higher with that kind of gameplay!

[@Fredington3000]

Fr I’m also only silver so I can’t say loads but I was thinking that he wasn’t spamming shield enough or using it aggressively enough imo, and his rock aim wasn’t amazing but I just happen to be better at rock aim than primary aim

[@TheWiIdeGuy]

'my shoulder is sore im not playing well' breh

[@colesin]

Mercy seemed to backseat game the entire time and she didnt look like she pocketed him once even when bastion was doing anything

[@cjerp]

Mercy be like that sometimes

[@Crazy_Mercenary]

umm the only time I talk was to ask him the block when he was low so I could heal or the back it up when it was just him, our mei talked the most 😶

[@Amaso1747]

It was 5 months ago let it go​@@Crazy_Mercenary

[@skellyjohn6917]

@@Crazy_Mercenary yea sorry their flaming you, probably got your voices confused. that Mei was atrocious

[@Crazy_Mercenary]

@@skellyjohn6917 I seen a lot of ppl in these comments flam me, and ngl if I was on anyone but mercy I most likely would not be getting flamed.......

[@chinaboytag1]

Honestly, I can't even blame a lot of the times he struggled, like with Orisa where no one was clearing the high ground. His dpses were letting him down and if anything, the only thing anyone could realistically do there is switch. Could've gone better if his team had been clearing appropriately but they mostly didn't.

[@JaimeHernandez-b5m]

him getting a diamond mei who averages like 13 deaths per 10

[@biggy-sama]

9:52 This is an all time excuse for playing like shit 😂

[@EastyBugTV]

I know I'm late to comment, but I have chronic illness and my joints are fucked up :') it was clarified before, during, and after stream, and I even ran solo in the lobby beforehand to try warming up and see if I could even run games. I know you may use certain excuses that are made up, but not everyone does ♡

[@krytirix]

I glad everyone is also thinking what I was thinking. The girls are constantly telling him to get back when he obviously is then when everyone gets killed off an he’s alone then dies, she goes “that’s what I was saying”. I hate backseat players who tend to think they’re sooo good but then don’t even know what’s going on. Along with the jumble of “call outs”. Personally it’s not that hard to be nice to your teammates, the more positivity the more you can work together.

[@SM-ok3sz]

SHE NEVER SHUTS UP

[@cheezy_ow2588]

Eastybug being COMPLETELY USELESS fr

[@unknownerror5926]

the biggest thing with elo hell is finding a way to get around the matchmaking and MMR system. Once you learn how bullshit it is, you can rank up. also his teammates were not helping tank by playing counters.... on D no reaper for winston, and no moira for genji.... players have the power to help but are often times too dumb

[@vannssh4dow]

I don’t think there was a second where she wasn’t talking or giving a call out and they were ALL bad 💀

[@Nepu_Nep]

Who the hell was the yapaholic on MrLenz's team? She needed to shut up for just a second frfr

[@mdlnqvv]

girl was so annoying and ended up 12-16 😭😭

[@dtamre93]

As a Plat tank and Diamond Open. He plays better than me 😂

[@SandMan12335]

11:42 The fact he got no support on that ult push is CRAZY lol

[@Jordan-ki6ow]

In my eyes, it shows just how bad OW2 rank system is. I can guarantee the tank has been playing on the same account since the game has launched or near to it, got placed in silver / low gold and the games algorithm has essentially and artificially kept them within the same rank. When you’re a pure solo player, this games competitive value has little to 0 value. I fully believe there are many who are above their respective rank but have been stuck due to playing on the same account that gets “locked” to a certain rank. Once OW2 algo has determined your rank, good luck ranking up unless you have a stack of 3+ that consistently com. Even then, the game will just put you with 2 other below average players due to the algo thinking your stack can make up for the subpar talent. When it comes to OW, it’s a pure team game. You can quite literally do everything perfect, make every play, make every essential kill and still lose due to others being constantly picked. VOD reviews are completely pointless in my eyes. Hardly anyone who does a review takes into consideration of the team around them. You’re out of position even though your team has no position? Well, it’s your fault. Being in the right position would miraculously turn the entire fight around. If anything, reviewing certain plays is far better than someone just sitting down and reviewing your gameplay from beginning to end. At the end of the day, every player makes mistakes and if you simply just dwell on every mistake and try to tell yourself what you could’ve been better, all you’re going to do is be sitting their thinking what you could do in essential fights as opposed to going with game sense and instincts and winning those fights. In ranks of Gold 3 and below it quite literally is a random generator and a toss up of the dice if you have a tank who actually knows how to play the game. Dps that have somewhat of a shot, and healers who actually heal instead of do dmg. When you’re playing with an account that has been stuck in low ranks since launch and are a pure solo player, it quite literally is impossible to rank up. I have my old account from when I first started OW that has been hard stuck silver yet on my next account I created, I’m high gold / low plat. I’m willing to let any KZbinr or content creator take over my silver account and try to rank it up as nothing but a solo player. I’m willing to bet my entire salary they wouldn’t be able to peek past plat. This games algorithm for rank detection is completely atrocious. Rank up = stack with friends. Stagnant in the same rank = play solo.

[@TwiceCrispy]

dude prob deserves high gold. Tends to use cooldowns inappropriately and quite often. Positioning was actually a lot better than most silver tanks. I'd be overwhelmed with those cluttered comms too though. I bet the guy could climb to high plat just by managing cooldowns better

[@PotatoShakeCake]

I see what Jay did here. He said the tank was silver and the team mates were diamond, but for the looks of it I am pretty sure he meant the Tank is diamond and they gave him silver players to test how good of a tank he is.

[@michaelpainter7406]

Jay3 is also in ELO hell, but its like an ELO hell inception, where he was once good enough but now coasts on his MMR history and an insane amount of hours played

[@jackwolferman]

15:13 "i talk a lot" yeah we are very aware unfortunately

[@lyhyraah]

eastybug throwing deadass 😭

[@Mr_Lenz]

what he doesn't show is Owen6 that was the true throw lol. Most of us had this as our first time being watched by thousands of people which made everyone nervous. Along with easty who had shoulder issues that day.

[@WarConicX]

bro main torb you would be top tier with him if your projectile aim carries over@@Mr_Lenz

[@EastyBugTV]

​@MrLenzGaming appreciate you lenz ♡ im glad i was able to pull it together for the last round!

[@samuelsheehan334]

@@EastyBugTV Some of the worst comms I've heard. Someone likes the sound of their voice...

[@skellyjohn6917]

@@Mr_Lenz that would be fine if she wasnt acting like an igl, and destroying comms.

[@lukeaustin4465]

The main thing that people need to learn in this game is target prioritization, everything else is secondary.

[@notsuoh7233]

you never even changed the teams he played on the same team twice

[@breakfaith3031]

They did change teams it just didn't make it into the video.

[@notsuoh7233]

@@breakfaith3031 oh

[@trxpmetal]

I recently hit diamond 2 on support and I'm already tired of it. There is someone smurfing or ximming every second match with a Mercy pocket + I've never encountered so many hackers in a game like I have in 3-4 weeks in high diamond. I'm about to throw myself back in gold if its continue like this 😄

[@CameronMoir-q5r]

U play on console, I can guarantee you haven’t seen a hacker in you’re console life

[@aceofpurity]

@@CameronMoir-q5rximming is cheating, so.. hacking.

[@trxpmetal]

@@CameronMoir-q5r I can guarantee you there is something called crossplay what makes Playstation, XBOX and PC play together.

[@owolet]

Nah I’m on diamond console for several seasons and I don’t think I see ximmers

[@masongrant9140]

There are only ximmers in high GM, and still I dont encounter that many

[@Walnuter]

wait i'm confused we didn't see him play on the other team in the video, both games he was with lagomorph, eastybug, amusedx, and mercenary and not with the other 4(owen, jowoshy, yer, and snacks)

[@Mr_Lenz]

I played with them but Owen6 got his name that map lol

[@EastyBugTV]

Ahh second round didnt go too well in terms of back and forth, so they must have cut it! (Havent watched yet)

[@Hietakissa]

At 15:05 it said they got stomped that game. So a close-ish loss with team 1, stomp with team 2 and then a win with team 1 for a 1-2 W/L

[@Zencep]

The game where they switched teams was not included in the video.

[@eireprincess]

i wouldn't be able to focus with that girl pointlessly yapping the whole game

[@zkillyatt1738]

He has the right idea, but is stuck with the silver mindset, I feel it, I’m stuck in plat hell like everyone else lmao.

[@ownphantomandtoy]

He's definitely very unsure and afraid of what he's doing which is understandable and he doesn't seem to understand the momentum of diamond games compared to silver but even in these diamond lobbies he's definitely playing like a high gold or low plat, he just needs to be more comfortable and get used to faster gameplay and he'll be diamond in no time.

[@awanderer3047]

It also doesn't help that eastybug was giving terrible call-outs the first game. He'd be in a good spot, she'd say to fall back, nvm, you're good. I'd be confused as well and at a certain point just stop listening to them

[@AFO666]

nah get him on a team with people who actually know how to be on a team. these people were awful. lenz did really well all things considered and he deserves way better.

[@jordanjacques8463]

He needs to get comfortable with taking space. Not being afraid to die. Let your team know when you're going in. Assert dominance

[@lukeaustin4465]

Sig is a mid range poke tank, that play style works better with tanks like zarya, orisa etc.

[@SuperVincent0000]

He is Silver!?!? WTF he deserves more... Fush this game

[@iknowimanidiotbut..2804]

Made classic silver mistakes tho. Had he ignored monkey and blocked his support and damaged back line money would have died to 1v4 with no support

[@EFPX]

10:00 Someone in my ranked game last night said they were a little drunk, and got flamed into oblivion, we won, but someone was even like "If we lose I am reporting you"

[@DimitriShalley]

9:59 “my shoulder hurts today” this isn’t the NFL bruh you’re playing video games 😭😭😭

[@Ron742_]

But how could this be? I hear so many people, particularly high rank players, say that being stuck and Elo Hell aren't real...

[@lunar7240]

your delustional

[@Ron742_]

@@lunar7240 So there aren't people who are stuck in Elo hell? There are, that means it exists...

[@darkcat6530]

​@@Ron742_there aren't really or atleast it'd extremely rare We don't really see this guys ranked games

[@Thelastday__]

That first team was “terrible” heal wize, and his DPS was just ass

[@UberOcelot]

ELO hell is real, and the math obviously bores that out. The amount of variables that pull your win average to 50 are high, and the margins that you overcome that have to be maintained for a really long time. Everyone above you will also average out and they'll have to be on losing streaks for a really long time. It's really just a class system in which ELO is a lot like money. That said truly great people will rise, as well as people who get lucky, and people who can rub shoulders with high-ELO circles to get that boost. Plenty of bad players in high leagues too because they are boosted via alts and then are kept aflout in their friend circle. The lower the ELO the more likely you're in ELO Hell too. Climbing through bronze and silver is more about players above you falling off from the game than anything. The fact you have to climb through sub tiers as well makes it all the more obvious. And people throw all the time too, and keep tabs on who is climbing the ranks. So it's adversarial in a much more dire sense if you are climbing solo. You need crew or you need to have some old data that allows Blizzard to expedite your reclimb.

[@lyhthegreat]

Now i really wanna watch him play in silver and see what's going on there..

[@ricardocortes7088]

Where does he find all these diamond teams that r communicating like they're playing wc

[@tbenz612]

THATS MY COLLEGE TEAMMATE!!!!!

[@Mr_Lenz]

AYYYYY TBENZ

[@subway8034]

eastybug 💀

[@curtbiz5368]

As a new ow player stuck in gold/silver I can confirm it is elo hell I watch lots of guides and other things but sometimes it just doesn’t matter, it comes down to if you can swap and counter the enemy tank if you try and play 1 tank only it feels like you have to be a Smurf to climb and play with minimal mistakes and this is all solo q fyi and teammates barley have mics idk anyone else have a different exp? I feel like if I 3 or even 2 stacked I would definitely climb but then is it really my rank ? Idk what’s y’all thought?

[@ArkanMatlub03]

I can see how he's missing a lot of important plays which can hold him back and sometimes solo ulting a genji is not worth it, but he's got that overall defensive style which is pretty important

[@dcsaustin2]

I did OW in college and was on the varsity team as a low gold player when the rest of my team was master/GM with one top 500 player. It wasn't always fin, and a few games I got unbelievably throttled. But as long as you have a good team that you can work with you can make up for it.

[@TurkeySandwich69420]

This dude is better than most allies I meet in Gold 1.

[@terumiafuro3723]

Bro the girl never stopped talking, like shut up for a second jeez

[@entropy417]

Yeah, ranking in colleges was a nightmare . I play for Caldwell University in New Jersey ,and the division set up was gold to masters. We were undefeated in the regular season, but somehow got bodied in play offs, we ended up getting 3rd place in the ECAC. We lost against a team that was made up of GMs while our top player was diamond 2 . I was tank that peaked at plat 2

[@eagletears945]

When did he swap teams? It looks like he has the same teammates from the first match?

[@henry9119]

he was worried about the monkey too much imo tbf he literally turned to the monkey every time he jumped, gave so much free space to the enemies every time

[@DropXplode]

Hear me out "elo heaven" were people who should not be in a high rank go into lower ranks to see if they can carry to prove they should be up there

[@oozy1333]

that ashe was trying so hard to hard comm but ended up just having empty comms and playing like crap

[@Marf69Marf69]

This video shows it's a map/game mode diff, they didnt swap teams like the usual videos do.

[@philpriester7982]

he never...switched teams?

[@Dtyler171]

Pertaining to sigma: His shifts need a lot of work, though his other abilities only need a few minor tweaks...namely not insta-rocking bubble every time monkey leaps in, bc he's always gonna bubble. But yeah, overall, a good tank, and definitely can play well beyond silver. I'm curious how much time has actually gone into ranked, though. Another thing I noticed, that I didn't see anyone mention, is that his aim is often low, particularly noticeable on ramatra. You can pretty reliably hit headshots on ram if you just set up your cursor at head height, and then track from there

[@ncjoker420]

I just started OW2 a couple of months ago. I just qualified as a high silver tank, and I would consider myself a tank main. I qualified high Gold, in both other roles, and low Platinum in open que. In OW1, I played with a group, and we played high Plat, low Diamond. Are there just more tank players in OW2 than heals and damage? I'm not sure why my tank qual was so low.

[@Alex_CJQ]

Hitscan main. I'm a Masters DPS player with 2 accounts in masters back in OW1 and one Masters 4 account in OW2. On my other account, I literally play the same characters and cannot climb beyond gold. I have no idea what the matchmaking is in this game, something feels off.

[@ExiphVG]

im a silver player who loves tank and this guy is not a silver player, this just shows how broken the matchmaking is that this guy is stuck

[@Mr_Lenz]

I'm the silver in this video and I'm making an update comment. I've gotten back into the game 10 months later my elo hell is now gold 4 but i'm doing my best