Adding some mileage is not a problem. I put 26,000 miles on my 360 Stradale over 7 years and the car was in immaculate condition and it didn’t really affect the value that much. More problems arise when they are not used, sat or not driven. I know of someone who put 50,000 miles on his F40 over a few years and another 360 with 180,000 miles without affecting the value too much. You are dead a long time so get out and enjoy it and use it!
@Gentleman...Driver3 жыл бұрын
Thats because of the general appreciation of those cars. Since 2010 sporty cars had a hefty grow in prices. Low interests and economic boom are the reasons. If you wouldnt have used your car it would be worth even more. Thats the point of the video. But I agree, if you have a sports car, just use and enjoy it. I dont care for money loss if I drive a Ferrari.
@netmatrix753 жыл бұрын
You are comparing a rare F40 to a common 360. Even if you driven the F40 a million miles, it would not depreciate any lower than any low mileage ones. If you drove a 360 a million miles, no one would want it.
@Hydraav23 жыл бұрын
@@netmatrix75 Yeah, cars like Jay’s will always be worth something because they are rare and desirable. Scud’s in particular have gained a lot of interest in the last couple years.
@frenchbred20813 жыл бұрын
@@netmatrix75 I am just saying get out there and use it basically regardless of car, make and model. The 360 Challenge Stradale is not just a 360 though especially as there are less of those than f40’s!
@BibtheBoulder3 жыл бұрын
26,000 in 7 years? OMG I do 36,000 a year. You are a part time driver. It equates to TEN miles a day. People CYCLE more than that.
@Rollin8.03 жыл бұрын
Another reason to drive unique cars is the amount of happiness you can give to OTHER people. I picked up my Viper the other day and in about 20 miles of driving I saw so many people smiling at it, a painter raced down off his trestle while I was sitting at a set of lights and ran over just to tell me he loved the car, had a bunch of school kids wave, it was awesome! It always brightens my day when I see something really cool drive past and it's pretty great to be able to have that effect on other people.
@lanmastersassistant6593 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with that, I drive a "53 Morgan +4, you get a lot of thumbs in a car like that.
@terryloh85833 жыл бұрын
It's surprising how much joy driving a special car brings to OTHER people! Well done. :)
@freddieparrydrums3 жыл бұрын
I have a Rover P5B. But I don’t get that much attention lol
@achilleconte43853 жыл бұрын
Agree, that's why I own a Dacia Sandero.
@Rollin8.03 жыл бұрын
@@achilleconte4385 you're practically famous! ❤️
@plpete3 жыл бұрын
Not driving your sports car because of resale value is like having a really hot girlfriend but saving her for the next guy.
@jonathan___46843 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 🤣
@defnotatroll3 жыл бұрын
I wanna laugh but this comparison makes 0 sense
@HQBProductions3 жыл бұрын
Well said!!😅😅😅😅😅.
@rsdouglass43 жыл бұрын
As the next guy, I say thank you.
@godspeed63153 жыл бұрын
I will say thanks as the next guy for not giving me a high miler! 😅
@adrianflower32303 жыл бұрын
Deathbed quote "I wish I hadn't driven my Ferrari that much!" 😂🤣😃 Priceless, James. Thank you 👍
@brandonchism69603 жыл бұрын
You're on to something here and I have the same line of thinking. I bought a 44K mile 997.1 Carrera S in 2015. It wasn't particularly special and I felt comfortable putting miles on it, accepting whatever depreciation came. That point was driven home further when my IMS bearing failed, requiring the engine to be replaced within 20k miles of me purchasing the car. When I finally sold that car, it showed 124k on the odometer. In my 3.5 years on ownership, I put over 80k miles on that car. Everything from long, multi-state road trips throughout the US, backroad driving, and scenic routes through state parks made that one of the greatest driving experiences of my life and I would not have had them if I kept the car under it's cover and parked instead of burning up the tarmac.
@terryloh85833 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Bad luck with that IMS bearing, but glad to see that you got a lot of miles and a lot of enjoyment out of that car.
@brandonchism69603 жыл бұрын
@@terryloh8583 Yeah man, it sucked... but I had a 3rd party warranty which covered the replacement. Total tally was 21k, but I was only out my 1k deductible. I was able to put a little over 60k on that motor before I traded the car. Unfortunately, that happened in early 2019 before the prices shot up, lol.
@mrlong62673 жыл бұрын
Congrats bro! You are living the dream just by owning a 911. Most people I know only wish they had one. Enjoy it since they are designed to be driven
@ambersykes14193 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You’re probably one of the straightest talking, most honest KZbinrs out there. Quality stuff.
@andystevens75573 жыл бұрын
I bought my GT500 from a guy who had only driven her a whopping 6200 miles in 6 years. 7yrs later with me and her odometer is at 37K. AND her current valuation is quite a bit above what I paid. Thank you guy for breaking her in for me to enjoy!
@Punisher94193 жыл бұрын
Miles don't really matter, the condition and how well it's been maintained are far more important. People say the same about Jaguars, they get turned off when you have a high miliage Jaguar but that isn't the problem. Lack of maintenance is the problem.
@MrGB19993 жыл бұрын
Sadly, miles does matter in Ferrari land. More than with any other car marque.
@Taylor406673 жыл бұрын
If were talking about value, mileage is the biggest factor A 458 5k vs 40k mileage is a big difference
@Quattro_Joe3 жыл бұрын
Don’t compare a shit over priced Ford to a Ferrari. Jaguars are rubbish to drive.
@Heckinwhatonearth3 жыл бұрын
@@Quattro_Joe ftype svr's are a thing. Difference is you drive that off the lot, you can take 50% off of the release straight away lol
@Quattro_Joe3 жыл бұрын
@@Heckinwhatonearth ok I’ll agree with you on those 2 they’re pretty good. The SVR is only worth about a tenner after you’ve bought it 50% is optimistic 🤣🤣
@markcarter94763 жыл бұрын
My daily drive is an Audi S4 (B5) Avant with 287k miles currently showing on the odometer. There is a sense of liberation, even a badge of honour, that comes with high mileage.
@Rollin8.03 жыл бұрын
I agree, for some reason I love seeing the miles rack up on my cars.
@ericpisch27323 жыл бұрын
How many turbos have you had.? Should be on its 5th set at that mileage
@nssherlock45473 жыл бұрын
I got a C6 RS6 Avant just ticking over 180 000k's. I'm letting the side down,I better get driving some more.
@giraffemccoy70413 жыл бұрын
@@ericpisch2732 Know someone who's had plenty of these Performance B5s over the years, currently got one around 200k, still on it's original turbos and going strong without any major overhauls or anything, just good maintenance. It's a pain in the arse to work on having to take the entire front apart though.
@rajanrairealty89793 жыл бұрын
Old Audis. From 90s New ones won't.
@ingvartorma97893 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that there are men who buy Supercar just to brag that they have one, but they hardly drive with them so that they do not lose value when they have to exchange it for another supercar to brag about. I have noticed here in Sweden that many do, just to brag. In my opinion, you buy a supercar to drive, have fun and enjoy driving it and completely shit completely in if it becomes many miles and loses value. For the greatest value is just driving the car, having fun and enjoying driving and you get memories every time you drive and it can never be replaced with money.
@Hypersonik3 жыл бұрын
Most people buy them to say they have them.
@GoldenCroc3 жыл бұрын
@@Hypersonik Quite right, a miniscule percentage of supercar owners are "car guys", who loves driving. For most, its just a status symbol/accessory, like a LV handbag.
@michaeljordan60083 жыл бұрын
Which supercar do you have?
@Hypersonik3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljordan6008 What do you define as a supercar? Personally, I can't afford to run one, so I don't have one. Probably gonna get a McLaren 570S next year if I can gauge the reliability/self servicing options.
@manfromwuhan7143 жыл бұрын
It’s as an investment. Yes it’s to brag slightly, but people who are rich enough to buy cars like that aren’t that stupid with their money. Picking the right cars is an easy profit down the road whether you drive it or not, with the benefit over stocks being it’s a pretty nice item to own in the meantime.
@Missionpilot26 ай бұрын
Jay, I know this video is 2 years old. But wow! I am a "New to me" 2000 360 Modena owner. I have learned SO much from watching your videos! This one made me feel so much better about driving my Ferrari. With only 17K ish miles on it when I got it I now have 19989 in only 3 months! Thanks for making these wonderful videos. God BLESS!
@nimedave3 жыл бұрын
I added a fair few miles to my Scud but it was the potential for big bills that worried me rather than the depreciation.
@alansilver34823 жыл бұрын
You are one of the best for honesty on you tube. Say what you think not what people want to hear. Very refreshing. Many other you tubers i don't bother with. They are lent cars and are frightened to offend manufacturers. Well done matey. Keep up good work. !!
@timwebb16453 жыл бұрын
I purchased my 360 modena 12 years ago it’s a manual car with a great history and a nice spec and I’ve absolutely loved ownership of it just having her in my garage under the cover gives me satisfaction and yes I’ve spent on normal servicing and done certain upgrades due to wear and tear over those years but when I look at expenditure of around 10 grand and what I paid 34and a half grand all those years back it literally owes me nothing because of the enjoyment I’ve had owning it so my advise is don’t be scared buying a second hand Ferrari ! My car has now done 49000 and runs beautifully!
@keithjackson49853 жыл бұрын
I applaud you! Live life without fear!
@londo03 жыл бұрын
Longest sentence ever.
@mihailhidler54003 жыл бұрын
Shows you don't need school to afford a ferrari, very encouraging
@barryhill10443 жыл бұрын
Your joy is that you have enjoyed ownership and certainly will get back far more than you paid for it ....
@P_M213 жыл бұрын
The envy in the answers 🤦🏻♂️ Congrats Tim!
@CraigMcB683 жыл бұрын
Great video James, possibly my favourite. I own a 550 Marenello ( 36k miles) and a 612HGTS (22Kmiles). I agree I'm just too darn bust to drive everyday, but I put a 600 miles on the 550 over a longweekend in Sept. When my 550 was serviced, as it is every year, GreyPaul stated it was the best one they'd seen in 5 years. Due in no small part as its driven, driven on long road trips 3 or 4 times a year. You certainly notice things that need doing, repairing, looking at on on a 300-500mile road trip. Certainly things you might not ever notice on 2 or 3 half an hour drives each year. Great video!
@19poundpound943 жыл бұрын
Let’s watch this before James realizes he accidentally uploaded two videos.
@Chrissy-H3 жыл бұрын
I’m usually rather proud of how high mileage the cars I buy are - give me the cheapest car on the market of the type and spec I want. And if everything still works and it’s reliable, I get a great sense of satisfaction from it. Happy days!
@richardhunt13843 жыл бұрын
Ah Harry would be proud of you James for his route for your a test drive!!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍
@robtt9973 жыл бұрын
All he needs to do now is go to Diddly Squat farm shop and meet JC
@doug30113 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I live in Germany and it is not uncommon to see sports cars with well over 160,000km. but the TUV, the German version of the MOT is so much more stringent, that cars are just in better condition for longer, ive even seen loads of 996s and 997's with over 200,000kms, a testarossa over 180,000kms and in really good condition. the low mileage obsession really is a UK thing.
@computerhelpcc3 жыл бұрын
USA is also plagued with low mileage thing.
@mitchbuchannon66373 жыл бұрын
Half a million km is nothing on a well maintained car
@mp35453 жыл бұрын
@@computerhelpcc yes it is. Especially with British and Italian exotics.
@ericpisch27323 жыл бұрын
Anything rare and valuable that goes through the global auction system is affected by mileage, why 90% of top end super cars / Hyper cars end up as garage queens. 911s thou are generally driven a lot more
@ericpisch27323 жыл бұрын
@@mitchbuchannon6637 yeah cause one in a million mass produced cars make it to 500k miles, try that with a hand made engine Ferrari, apex at the ring have had several mclaren engines changed after 40k miles
@Corvolet53 жыл бұрын
Most Ferrari owners care more about their car appreciating in value and catching dust in a garage than actually driving them, which is a shame if you ask me. I mean, what is the point in buying an expensive car if you don't get it outside for once in a while?
@Cornwall18883 жыл бұрын
I think you answered your own question
@Corvolet53 жыл бұрын
@@Cornwall1888 It is an unfortunate answer, cause the average Joe will never get to experience it that way unless you get lucky and have a chance of test driving it. Half of these cars will either end up in a museum or a garage, or end up being destroyed by natural disasters or fire. Actually one of the reasons I'd get a Corvette over any supercar because they're so available.
@joe125ful3 жыл бұрын
You forgott how repairs/service can be expensive...yeah 20K to buy carbonceramic brakes?Why not.. Its not that easy as you can thing only driving...
@Tkcb27993 жыл бұрын
@@Corvolet5 These cars aren't for the average Joes
@malcholden53573 жыл бұрын
As so long as you enjoy your ownership in your own way it matters not a jot what your neighbour thinks or what they’d do if they had one.
@colinbennett Жыл бұрын
Wonderful stuff (as always) James. I keep coming back to this video because it helped ease my own Ferrari mileage anxiety - the real joy-killer of my Ferrari ownership if I'm honest. I'm one of those people who over-paid for the ultra low milage example - mostly because I'm a perfectionist and wanted a pristine car. I bought my dream-spec 3yo Pista with 600 miles on it last year. In my first year of ownership I put 400 miles on the car and kinda freaked out as it rolled over 1,000 miles. I'd almost doubled the milage in a year. Ouch! After watching your video a few times it really hit home that I didn't buy the car as an investment. I bought it to enjoy its drop-dead-gorgeous styling and the sheer thrill of blasting my (first ever) dream modern supercar around fantastic local Scottish driving roads. Pista values have softened since I purchased the car and I know I've already lost a chunk of money. My favourite bit of your video is when you mentioned that the "return on investment isn't a financial one" - it's the fun, the memories, the smiles, shared experiences, the drives, the conversations, the meet-ups and lovely people you meet by taking the car out and sharing it. This really hit home. You're totally right. I put another 450 quality miles on it this year and it'll mark it's 5th birthday at 1450 miles. I recently spoke to a local Ferrari dealership buyer and shared my mileage anxiety experience with him. He laughed and said "1450 in 5 years is nothing". He said "Go and enjoy the the car. You can afford to put a good few thousand miles on the car. It wouldn't change the price I'd offer you for a trade-in." This totally opened my eyes and along with your video has me all-set to finally stop worrying about mileage in 2024. I've got no plans to sell so it's time to go enjoy the car. It's what I bought it for. PS. If you're planning a trip to the west of Scotland, give me a shout. Maybe we can figure out a way to get you in the car to make a video for your channel.
@bitmen12963 жыл бұрын
I was getting gas one day and I noticed an older gentleman filling up a 2020 Miata RF. Since I have a 2019 Miata RF I struck up a conversation with him. He told me that he only takes it out on perfect days so he doesn't put to many miles on it. This was and is incredibly confusing to me since mine is my daily. I love my Miata, it's a wonderful car, but it's no high end sports car and in my opinion getting it as a trophy of sorts is the exact opposite of what these cars are about. I love your channel Jay and I greatly enjoy your videos and look forward to when a new drops. Thank you for actually driving your cars and enjoying them, that always makes me happy to see. Keep up the good work. 👍
@mitchbuchannon66373 жыл бұрын
Two videos at once , happy days
@mawaboutcars6713 жыл бұрын
Both happy and sad to see you on my local roads! Wish I’d caught you ;) Our F12 is on about 30k Miles, had some paint corrections done under warranty but other than that it’s been a peach. Is used to commute in 😀
@grigiogt87933 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a fantastic video. Really well thought out. If you ever decide to sell the car, please let me know. It would fit into my collection as I love the spec and as a Lambo guy, a higher mileage Ferrari doesn’t bother me. I had this car saved on my favourites and then you bought it. A higher mileage car works and runs better than a lower mileage car because all the consumables are changed regularly. Enjoy your beautiful car and thank you for clear, well thought out content that is actually relevant and useful.
@JayEmmOnCars3 жыл бұрын
When it comes for sale you're welcome to have a go!
@rhettcorcoran28793 жыл бұрын
Great video, I put 90k on my TVR Griffith and my 997.2 has got 105k, I bought the cars to use them, in my experience the more you use them the less trouble you have with them, all imho.
@davebarron59393 жыл бұрын
This is impressive, how do you find the time to put those kind of miles on your own rides, while you put out so much great content with "other cars"? Well done!
@BibtheBoulder3 жыл бұрын
This is not impressive. I drive 36,000 miles a year.
@plxton3 жыл бұрын
@@BibtheBoulder Wasn't a competition, but I'm guessing that's not in a Ferrari 😂🤣
@BibtheBoulder3 жыл бұрын
@@plxton No, a Rolls Royce.
@mikeabel75773 жыл бұрын
Cool story, Bib.
@dodgeymrd3 жыл бұрын
i remember some of my old cars back in the day had "been round the clock" happy times. many thanks for the memories yet again. personally i say screw the value, drive the car.
@ozeskiman3 жыл бұрын
Jay, I couldn't agree more with those comments. It always amazes me when I see incredible cars, many 40 plus years old, advertised with ridiculously low miles on them. They were built to be driven and enjoyed. The fact they are worth obscene amounts of money today is simply due to market forces and the world being awash with squillionaires. I drove my 355 enough to enjoy it but was careful about the kms I put on it.. when I bought my 575M I decided that I would probably keep the car long term and so I drive it regularly, on average 4,000 kms a year. It gets serviced annually and is about to get the premium service. Consequently, it's in great condition and drives superbly. If I have it for another 11 years, and am still driving safely when I turn 80, I won't care what it's worth, because as you state, it will have given me so many great driving memories. And that's what driving a special car, like a Ferrari, is all about. A final thought that is a regular talking point amongst us "older" car guys is this. Who will be buying these cars in 20 years time? Certainly not us baby boomers. ICE cars will be no longer made, and petrol will be more (a lot more) expensive. Speed limits, congestion taxes, road usage taxes, autonomous cars, etc will have taken the thrill out of having these cars. Anyway keep up the discussion..
@davidporeilly13 жыл бұрын
As a Ferrari salesman in Sydney it became very clear that there were two types of Ferrari Buyer. The "Motoring/Engineering fancier" who liked the 5 valve per head technology or the use of aluminium in the chassis. These were the very active driving members of the Ferrari Owners Club. Then there were the "Art collectors". You would speak to them very differently. Group A you would talk about the cars engineering and technology. Group B you would just stand there and say "Isn't it stunning". We also had a 365 Berlinetta Boxer that had sat in the showroom for 13 years. It needed a major engine rebuild as every seal, gasket and piece of rubber had dried out and perished. It was worse having not being driven.
@lindsaymac9113 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 458 coming in a few weeks, served every year. I also plan to service it every year as I expect to put on at least 2-3k miles a year. Can hardly sleep waiting for it. Great video, I like your no nonsense style, I know you have a few knockers but I do enjoy your videos
@Cornwall18883 жыл бұрын
The reminded me of a vinwiki story, a guy selling his pristine bmw which was pretty much unused apologied to the buyer because he couldn’t remember if he put the dust caps back on the same wheels as they’d come from the factory.
@papa_pt3 жыл бұрын
gaskets all eaten through from disuse
@raymonds74923 жыл бұрын
I saw this video of a bunch of collectors sneakers crumbling apart from not being used.
@rambleon36983 жыл бұрын
As a bloke who's never been interested in sports cars much your rants about these things are very entertaining. Thanks for these shows James.
@naturshoot84483 жыл бұрын
What would bother me about a 10 year gap between services would not be that the oil hasn't been changed, as it'll be synthetic so will probably be fine, it would be all the seals in the engine etc. that will have dried out through lack of use. When Aston did the One-77, the local dealer told us that many would effectively be static displays and they would go and drain the fluids. If they wanted to get them on the road, then there would effectively be a whole recommissioning process to replace dried out seals before new fluids are added and it can be used. As you say, that process is not cheap because of the labour involved. Buy a car like this that's been in stasis for 10 years and it might have low mileage, but could be hiding a huge imminent bill if suddenly used.
@aspectabove3 жыл бұрын
Liked before watching....yet another JayEmm topic I'm immediately interested in.
@JuanManuelTastzian3 жыл бұрын
Exchange miles per hour for smiles per hour. That's the best investment! Love your car, Jay! And love that you use and enjoy it. Cheers!
@tiffosiphoto3 жыл бұрын
I bought an FF a month ago with 5000 miles on the clock. Already getting close to ticking past 6000
@freddieparrydrums3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Mileage is often not talked about
@stephenwoodhouse71783 жыл бұрын
I have a 997.1 C4S and can relate to what is said here. Obviously not on the same scale. You summed it up perfectly at the end.
@spencerabaker3 жыл бұрын
I don’t often leave public comments, but will this time. Absolutely. Spot. On. Couldn’t have expressed my sentiments any better. the memories my daughter and I have in “the toys” couldn’t be bought, no amount of money could substitute for that impromptu holiday in France where we took the very low mileage Exige Cup240 and packed to the gunnels and laughing continuously, or the days out where we’ve had deep, engaging conversations as she’s been growing up in another toy. I don’t regret it one bit. I’d also run a mile from anything that’s been a garage queen and unused….the recommissioning costs and headaches would be a nightmare, and at that point, it’s just static art. Fine if you’re into that sort of thing, but with the death-knell of ICE vehicles looming, enjoy them while you can.
@Barbarapape3 жыл бұрын
As someone who as never owned a Ferrari, and never will, the reluctance to drive an expensive car is realtive to what you can afford to buy and run not just the brand name. Having owned Maserati's, and Aston Martins that i bought as low milage mint samples, then wanting to keep them that way, is fine when you decide to sell them but sad that you have been too frightened to risk driving them.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt3 жыл бұрын
If one is concerned about mileage one can't really afford the car. I quizzed the owner of a guardrail sideswiped Ferrari at a track day who simply said, "It's just some paint and panels mate." Anyone can afford to lease a Ferrari, those that can afford to crash them uninsured can actually afford them.
@papa_pt3 жыл бұрын
100% agreed, it's not true luxury if you're constantly worried about parts or dings bankrupting you
@Heckinwhatonearth3 жыл бұрын
Imo, you can't afford a car if it's value exceeds 3% of your total net worth.
@Kref33 жыл бұрын
@@Heckinwhatonearth So you should have a net worth of a million of whatever currency you prefer before you are allowed to buy a 30000 midrange car? OK….
@Heckinwhatonearth3 жыл бұрын
@@Kref3 yeah, basic finance. Generally 5% is accepted. Imo 3%. If you can't buy the car at least 20 times over in cash, you shouldn't be buying it. The widely accepted net worth rule is not to spend any more than 5-10% of your net worth on a car. But that's fine, most people just indebt themselves for twice the amount they make p.a. feel free to do that.
@Kref33 жыл бұрын
@@Heckinwhatonearth I would never take a loan on a car, which is why I never would buy a new car. I buy a 10 year old comfortable car for 12 - 15.000 EUR out of the money on my bank account and drive it another 10 years. I bought a BMW 728i E38 it in 2007 for 11.000EUR, sold it in January 2021 for 3000EUR because it really got old and started to require constant maintenance. So I had a depreciation of 8000 EUR over 15 years, that is somewhere around 600EUR per year. Then I purchased a Mercedes C180T S204 from 2012 for 12.000 and will drive it for the next ten years. I assume that the same will happen again, I will sell it for 2000 or 3000 in 10 or 12 years. Taken your 3% rule, I need to have a net worth of 400.000EUR before I could purchase a car that would ultimately cost me 600EUR per year in depreciation. I own my house, I do not rent, so my net worth is a bit above that. But I do still have to pay my loan every month for the house and would not have a cent lessif I rented the house instead of buying it. For that reason basing it on a net worth would not work. I know many people who could have bought their house, increasing their net worth but decided against it and rather spend a bit less money in renting because they will move quite regularly, because they do not want to involve themselves in maintenance or maybe also because they plan to always have a house or flat appropriate to the size of the familiy, starting with single bedroom, going to two or three and then back to one again. These guys will probably never reach a net worth sufficient for a 10000EUR car according to your 3% rule. So the 3% net worth rule does not work. It must be related to the available free income. and there my rule of thumb goes: If I can safe the money to pay the car out of the pocket within one year, it is ok to buy. I will get for my current car X EUR when I sell it, I will have to spend Y EUR on the next, and I can safe Z EUR within a year without having to live like a Franciscan monk, so the price of the next car must fulfill the inequation Y < X + Z
@tonymoreton71663 жыл бұрын
Manual 360 Modena. Semi-stored for 8 years before I bought with 10's to few hundred miles a year. I'm now doing 3k to 5k miles per year & working through all the seal issues / fluid leaks due to previous lack of use! Getting there! & a smile every single mile.
@JayEmmOnCars3 жыл бұрын
Good on you Tony!
@tonymoreton71663 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars You too. By the way, love driving those Cotswolds roads as well.
@MadMarky3 жыл бұрын
You see it all the time in various user groups (forums, facebook groups, etc). Prospective buyers looking for a 25 year old sportscar, but at the same time thinking that anything over 100K miles is an awful lot. Which is just an average of 4K per year, which is also just about enough to keep the maintenance intervals in check and the tires somewhat fresh. MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
@murrieteacher3 жыл бұрын
How amusing that at about the 5 minute mark you mentioned the Evo magazine while driving through some corners that Harry Metcalfe features. He is not afraid to put the mileage on his collection. Jay, I love the drive by shots. We get to hear what the car sounds like. I call my son and ask him to come and get my cars and drive them up and down particular roads so I can stand by the side of the road and enjoy the sounds they make. It also helps me to analyze the state of the engine. I have gone so far as to let others drive my car at competition events to hear the engine driven at high revs. I agree with the comments Peter Siestrzewitowski's comments.
@SuperCarManUK2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jay. Just bought a 22k mile scud, plan to add a hell of a lot more to it!
@davepyne623 жыл бұрын
I love how much you have loved this car James and I love the fact you've made someone else's day by showing it to them. I can't afford a ferrari but I think these videos alongside the ones where you explain the much lower cost than people think about the official ferrari maintenance and warranty packages will make more ordinary people drive them.
@VINTTRO3 жыл бұрын
Always an interesting topic James, there doesn’t seem to be much middle ground, you’re either a driver or collector. We have members who are both, and we appreciate both sides. Great video as always. ✌🏼
@samcourt62283 жыл бұрын
We do seem very mileage obsessed in the UK, even on cars more than capable of covering big miles. I’m sure some of the bills people end up with on cars like Ferrari’s is because they don’t get used enough although there are exceptions such as yourself. I think the reason a lot don’t get used because they’re concerned with value rather than lack of time.
@elitegr4n73 жыл бұрын
Hi James great vid as usual, was wondering do you live near Harry M? Recognise the roads. Would be good if you could do a colab video with him
@oneeleven98323 жыл бұрын
You gotta drive em..i like my cars with a bit of patina on them as well. I keep them clean but if theres some stone chips on ah so be it shows it’s been enjoyed..that’s why I didn’t bother with PPF on my 911..as I’m planning on keeping it anyway 👍
@Rollin8.03 жыл бұрын
They're not stone chips, they're battle scars!
@keirbourne53233 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos for a while! So happy seeing you love a car like this!
@NielsRoskam3 жыл бұрын
Never thought about it as much, but it makes total sense. I bought a 5-year-old Porsche 911 that had done an average of 7,000kms per year. Just put another 15,000kms on it in my first year of ownership and loving it :-)
@EmmaLouise1053 ай бұрын
Bought my first Ferrari (California 430) two months ago- it had 16000 miles on the clock, and I've already done 1785 miles to date- it's a beauty, and it's meant to be driven, not looked at, and stuff the mileage- I'll up grade to a Portifino next, or possibly find a good 458, and I'll do the same.
@andrewthompsonuk13 жыл бұрын
This sums it up perfectly. I have personally found cars to get more reliable as the miles climb. That's if you properly fix everything along the way.
@Thanos.m3 жыл бұрын
What I've personally found is that the 100k mile fear has some base to it most of the cars I've had seemed to have most of their issues between 100-120k but past that you have dealt with most of the issues and it seems like they are more reliable again
@rumrnr783 жыл бұрын
Good point- I turned my 911 (996) into a daily driver- 60 miles a day, round trip, and I swear it’s running much better than it did when it would sit in the garage and go 2-3 weeks in between the drives. I did take it to the dealer and had her run through to make sure she was ready!
@doctorleitz47953 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video, as always. Are you on Mr Metcalfe’s favoured test route there? Looks very like it. Cheeky!
@ryan_henderson3 жыл бұрын
Spotted that too 👍🏻
@mvaght873 жыл бұрын
I was always under the appreciation that it was because they didn't want to replace their clutches so often.
@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt3 жыл бұрын
Never been a huge Ferrari fan but this Scuderia is bang on stunning.
@sultanoftippoo38573 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Jay. I think people’s reasons for owning cars like a Ferrari are very varied. Some want to show off their status to others, some want an investment (more fun than putting it all in a pension) and some just love driving and the amount of mileage each person adds during their period of ownership fits their unique set of priorities (in short, it’s their money so who is anyone to criticise). That said, I do agree with many on here that it’s a shame not to drive these cars as much as possible (without regular use the owner is inviting reliability issues and extra costs down the line). Being in the UK I’m limited to driving my F355 between April and November due to the weather but a weekly run out in the dry between those months means I get to enjoy the car a lot without adding huge annual miles.
@rebelranter3 жыл бұрын
Cars are built to be driven, delighted you are driving yours….and enjoying it. Kudos!
@alexadelaide2 жыл бұрын
I have an s15 Silvia, bought it in 2011, it’s worth twice now what I paid for it and drove it every day for ten years. I now keep it garaged, I moved onto a golf (for family), can’t bring myself to sell it but glad I enjoyed it rather than keeping it as an investment
@sparky48783 жыл бұрын
Just pop it up on jack stands and put it in reverse. That lad did it when he skipped school. What could go wrong?
@donaldw60493 жыл бұрын
😆 Good One
@blitzy993 жыл бұрын
Ferris was a rascal, no doubt.
@nexushexus43653 жыл бұрын
@@blitzy99 Like the Lawnmower?
@bloodstockvip21763 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos but the sound of this car from the outside flyby shots, just sound epic! 👍
@AvidGamer2503 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I have friends who religiously change their car and went consider anything over 40k miles as it's seen to be 'high mileage'. From my experience the cars I've bought with higher numbers have generally been the more reliable ones. Always been confused why people pay so much attention to it. Much more important to look at the history and see how much it has been looked after. I've also found the cars I drove everyday I generally had less problems with than the cars I have only driven at the weekends. Modern cars are designed to be driven everyday.
@plektosgaming3 жыл бұрын
My most reliable car, ever, was a Volvo with 230K on it. The person had driven it 20K a year commuting for 21 years.(plus some road trips).
@flyinghedgehog38333 жыл бұрын
Out of all reviews this is THE keeper...last of the real Ferraris. With help from Schumi.One day I will have one.
@daveyator3 жыл бұрын
After a 360 and F430 I found myself driving with a knot in my stomach. Every bump or dash light or odd noise is liable to cost thousands of dollars. Went through almost 30K in maintenance in 4 yrs on the 360 and a little over 10K on the F430 in two. The only thing I've put in my 911 this last year is gas. The 360 had cost me over 5K at this point.
@olivertaylor47793 жыл бұрын
Having had older Ferrari's and Porsche's over various weekends I would rather have a Porsche any day, although the Ferrari's clackedy clack of the manual box is addictive, but the seats are a bit narrow imo making long stints uncomfortable. The Porsche was one of the best cars I have ever driven, drive and drive just stopping for petrol and a snack.
@sportzntouring3 жыл бұрын
The scud sounds and looks so good!! You're right, I'd be more worried about the condition of a car that's sat still for so long... And personally I buy cars to enjoy driving them... If I can't afford the depreciation then I can't afford the car. I guess everybody's different though.
@coreycohen61603 жыл бұрын
Great Video…. I wish I had time to drive my Ferrari more and I split time between a couple of Porsche’s and an AMG, so mine can go months without being driven. I still will service it annually as I do with my other cars regardless of mileage. I did manage to take it out yesterday morning before a big rainstorm and bad weather all weekend, and saw 2 other Ferraris including a pista with the same idea. Nothing like a Ferrari at redline!!!
@timothywhalen93523 жыл бұрын
The quality of one's life is worthy of spending the value of any Ferrari. The experiences are the journey. The costs are way too high if you have a Ferrari but are unwilling to drive it.
@pub60233 жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing, if all you are doing is having a beer in the garage loving your car it’s simple….fire it up regularly and take it around the block just to get fluids where they need to be and actuate brakes, aircon n such….but the key is using an oil that doesn’t mind sitting dormant for extended periods.
@wimdepril69203 жыл бұрын
Can’t decide which Ferrari to take out now after seeing this video. Thanks, James 😉😉
@R-Tap3 жыл бұрын
That window wiper arrangement is as mad as the car. Always loved the look of a 430, still do.
@EleanorPeterson3 жыл бұрын
I keep expecting to see Harry Metcalfe in full angry-farmer-mode leaning over a gate, waving a pitchfork at James and yelling, "Get orf moi laaaand!" 🚜
@ashs16703 жыл бұрын
I don’t get this lol They’re both good car reviewers
@marknorton59513 жыл бұрын
Harry almost always uses the same route between Burford and Chipping Norton in Oxfordshire, to the point of being boring and it’s a pity JayEmm can’t find his own test route.
@JayEmmOnCars3 жыл бұрын
I dont know that area particularly well, this road suits my needs - I do have several other test routes
@ashs16703 жыл бұрын
@@marknorton5951 it’s more so a pity you need to be so negative haha Route seems fine, suites both their review styles I’d say
@blakebrothers3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! In aviation, 'hangar queen' is a term pilots looking to purchase a used aircraft pay attention to. It's great if the engine(s) and airframe have low time but if that's because it has sat in a hangar collecting dust that is a big red flag as it should be for cars. Having the 'perhaps I shouldn't be putting so many miles on this vehicle because it will decrease the value' thought as one is driving should be the first sign that it's time to sell it on because you obviously aren't enjoying it that much if that is what is going through your mind.
@soarindragon6033 жыл бұрын
I have 200k miles on my 16 year old Civic. Original clutch. Changed the front brake pads once. Original rear brakes.
@pilotgirl59533 жыл бұрын
I own a 2011 Lamborghini Gallardo. I put 6200 miles on it this year! Love it, and drive it a lot!
@venom58093 жыл бұрын
Got two neighbors, one has a 16M Spider, it has less than 3,000 miles, another has a 2005 Ford GT since new, daily drives it to work everyday in the summer, so sad to see these cars not driven.
@jackdale92493 жыл бұрын
brilliant video and great advice !
@Titot1823 жыл бұрын
That B4437 is an absolute peach of a road! Cotswold's own Corkscrew
@PF19833 жыл бұрын
Keep quiet or average speed cameras will spoil it !
@Titot1823 жыл бұрын
@@PF1983 If they wanted to fry easy fish, they've got Fosseway and Fish Hill not too far away. It's quite bumpy so unless you're doing NW200 pace across blind farm entrances, you'll be fine.
@Djwatzy3 жыл бұрын
Saw you driving through Sudbury. These cars look so much better in person. It seems someone else has the same car in Sudbury too
@SamAustin3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this one! I think the true value in cars is a balance between using it and holding a bit of money also in the car. To just keep a car in storage for so many months/years is not my thing personally.....it is there to be used and enjoyed as a car enthusiast. We are all going electric soon so let's use them! Many congrats btw on your Scuderia along with driving the car.....if you wanted too you could just lock it away for ever but where would be the joy in that?
@mikeabel75773 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen. To see it in person will blow your mind.
@BrainEquation3 жыл бұрын
Picked up my 8 year old 599GTB at 32,000Km. 1 year later: 52,000km :)
@chowd.a.d.83093 жыл бұрын
Top class, fun and informative. Any who have some nice driving roads to be explore?. All the best.
@ChrisWalksFast3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos where you talk about car ownership and drive the cars you own!
@rs-flamingo3 жыл бұрын
I was following an auction for a 5000-mile Porsche and commenters were complaining that the tyres were too old like, yes, the owner barely drove it, he’s not going to buy new tyres for the car to just sit on.
@eze89703 жыл бұрын
Thanks J, always enjoy the sight & sounds of this car!
@eddyleland2963 жыл бұрын
You summed it up at the end.When you get too old to drive it I'd rather have memories of using it regularly instead of it being worth a bit more.
@jonnyharvey38833 жыл бұрын
Great video. Firstly love your car! Secondly I agree. The thing is, I find that the best drive is always the next one. That's why you just gotta use and enjoy them.
@minatormyth3 жыл бұрын
You know, everything...everything you have said about ferrari in this video is exactly correct. In my 20 years of Ferrari ownership I realized this after only a few years. Spot on jay🤗
@23Piccolina3 жыл бұрын
Jay, your car is outstanding. And I am very pleased that you actually drive it. If I owned a Ferrari, I'd drive it as often as makes sense. I would not care about mileage. If someone buys them as investments, they are not car enthusiasts, they are art collectors. These cars were built to be driven, not sat in a garage and looked at until everything leaks and they break down. Drive the damn things!
@jaysmartin3 жыл бұрын
Lovely shirt, perfect for autumn 👌🏻 My sprinters just about run in at 132,000 miles. Just keep changing that oil 😈
@resnonverba1373 жыл бұрын
Your sprinters?
@stephenauty24023 жыл бұрын
@@resnonverba137 Sprinter's (Mercedes Sprinter)
@resnonverba1373 жыл бұрын
@@stephenauty2402 Thank you, now it makes sense.
@wallyr.78543 жыл бұрын
Great video, love love your Scud 😍
@wallyr.78543 жыл бұрын
@Baby Clara 🤔
@StigsCanadianCousin3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you for speaking the truth! Stocks are for investing. Cars are for driving. The dividends? Smiles per gallon!
@colinmeechan5873 жыл бұрын
You’re right !!!!!! Great to see the big motor out for a run 🙌
@malcholden53573 жыл бұрын
Very well put. Great advice.
@swiper18183 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you enjoying and driving it!
@hangpilot12003 жыл бұрын
None of us gets out alive; get out there and drive your dream cars! I purchased my Porsche 981 last year w/ 55k miles on it. It's my daily driver and just passed 65k miles. Won't be long until it's past 100k. That's 10's of thousands of miles of sheer bliss my friends!
@Hypersonik3 жыл бұрын
Get it on track!!
@hangpilot12003 жыл бұрын
@@Hypersonik I've auto crossed it twice. Also driven the Tail of the Dragon & Blue Ridge Parkway. Both several hours away from where I live. Spending the kid's inheritance! ;-)
@Hypersonik3 жыл бұрын
@@hangpilot1200 Yeah that's all cool, but seriously, GET IT ON TRACK!!!
@dhmallet3 жыл бұрын
A couple of additional points: 1. Cars that wren't driven develop problems such as corroded fuel tanks and lines, dried out suspension bushings, etc. 2. As a KZbinr, it makes sense to use your cars as content. and drive them.
@AdRuWr3 жыл бұрын
We face the same problem over here in Aus, especially in relation to euro cars. Anything over 100k kms people do not want to touch and cars are harder to move on past this point.
@Mexxx653 жыл бұрын
As pointed out in my post above. Our Mindset in Australia has been shaped, to think any used car under 100,000 kms is a BARGAIN, such low mileage. Whereas a used car with 110,000 kms or 120,000 kms is high mileage, and to be avoided, hence its used car sale price will be slashed, to almost, nothing, of no value.