Why The VR6 Volkswagen Passat R36 was a Perfect End To VW's Golden Age of Crazy Engines

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JayEmm on Cars

JayEmm on Cars

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@unpluggedkiwi1063
@unpluggedkiwi1063 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned 40+ cars in my life. Some of them very nice. But the only one I really miss and regret ever selling was my MkIV 2 door R32 6spd manual. Only 32 of these were ever imported new into New Zealand, and all of them were 2 door. The sound of that V6 was intoxicating.
@rwd323
@rwd323 2 жыл бұрын
🇳🇿
@Nabeelco
@Nabeelco 2 жыл бұрын
VR6. 😉
@natmeechubot1978
@natmeechubot1978 2 жыл бұрын
In this era a lot of people are kicking themselves to not keeping the mk4 r32. It wasn't the fastest - decent in it's time. Didn't drive the best. But it had soul.
@Nabeelco
@Nabeelco 2 жыл бұрын
@@natmeechubot1978 R36 ;)
@unpluggedkiwi1063
@unpluggedkiwi1063 2 жыл бұрын
@@natmeechubot1978 It had a certain rawness to it. But the sound of that V6 made up for any shortcomings. May not have been the fastest car around, but it was a very good long distance car. And the worse the conditions got, the better it became.
@buggerlugz6753
@buggerlugz6753 2 жыл бұрын
The "chopped" sticker on the back windows actually gives it an additional 100bhp.
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 2 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia says an additional 101 bhp 😆
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 100 kilowatts?
@7spower998
@7spower998 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars 100 kiloWatt, not kilowatts.
@CL4SSiCS
@CL4SSiCS 2 жыл бұрын
@@7spower998 it's the same thing, you just added a capital letter and isn't kilowatts more than one?
@7spower998
@7spower998 2 жыл бұрын
@@CL4SSiCS Unit of measurement is constant.
@duileyah
@duileyah 2 жыл бұрын
Have had mine for 11 years now.....and absolutely love it! My R36 is in white and it's one of last ones off the line, the gauge cluster is much improved and modern compared to the one featured here. And it's got the aluminum looking trim panels with the swirl patterns (sorry, i don't know what it's called)...anyway, it is utterly stunning in my opinion and it makes the interior timeless. Despite having a small collections of cars that changes from time to time, the R36 variant is the only one I am keeping forever.
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the white or full colour display between the gauges? That's my beast in the video, had it about 4 years & love it
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenjamanWoolner i retrofitted the full colour cluster to my B6 (it was originally a half size red cluster) so it's definitely possible and does make the car much more modern. Also worth checking out is the 'Discover Media' replacement for the hideously slow RNS510 radio. Not cheap but has apple Carplay and Android Auto, and has the same software as the Passat B8 MIB2 units
@duileyah
@duileyah 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenjamanWoolner That's awesome! My cluster is still the black n white LCD in the middle with the dial needles in blue.
@ogloftus
@ogloftus 2 жыл бұрын
What year is yours as my 32 is an 06 with the swirly metal trims
@duileyah
@duileyah 2 жыл бұрын
@@ogloftus 2010
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 3 жыл бұрын
You've captured my car so well, the weather was kind to us. A real pleasure to meet & work with, Thank you
@drayke8886
@drayke8886 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you have really nice car and i like those rims... Could you please tell their name or at least brand? Thanks and good luck with your Passat :)
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
@@drayke8886 those wheels are actually stock VW 18" wheels that came with the R36s, just mine have been resprayed. I believe they are called Omanyts
@drayke8886
@drayke8886 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenjamanWoolner thanks!
@DennisFang1
@DennisFang1 2 жыл бұрын
These things were so popular in Australia back in the day, and I still see them reasonably often (usually with a loud exhaust 😂)
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 2 жыл бұрын
Now Australia has the Passat as a Police car.
@NicholasLeung_nktleung
@NicholasLeung_nktleung 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to buy one from Sydney? Any recommendations?
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
'Back in the day'?! Jesus 😂
@wesley8096
@wesley8096 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasLeung_nktleung Ask about the service history, having the chain done is definitely a pro. Otherwise, if this engine had regular service you don't have much to worry about. Feel for play in the drivetrain, when shifting to lower gears for example. These engine mounts get worn out rather quickly on these cars. Not that expensive to replace but good to check.
@NRTuf
@NRTuf 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasLeung_nktleung i have mine literally sitting in a garage driving only once every 2 weeks! trying to keep my kms low! hoping the prices on them go up! they hella rare in my books not many in Australia and i love how the wagon has similar lights to a r33 Nissan skyline.
@md_7442
@md_7442 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a VR6! Small correction though, the B7 (generation after this one) did also come with a VR6 on top of the line trims
@vibingwithvinyl
@vibingwithvinyl 2 жыл бұрын
True, although B7 was basically just a facelifted B6.
@aadi8568
@aadi8568 2 жыл бұрын
@@vibingwithvinyl not really, it was an entire new generation
@matts1234
@matts1234 2 жыл бұрын
As well as the atlas which still uses a vr6
@boundish1
@boundish1 2 жыл бұрын
@@aadi8568 its a facelift. Its the same chassis, the doors are swappable between the two
@catalinbanu9049
@catalinbanu9049 2 жыл бұрын
It s a more serious facelift made by walter de silva with the mission to make a pretty radical facelift. It s more like the b5 vs b5.5 generations
@davog1946
@davog1946 2 жыл бұрын
Actualllllyyyyy, the CC got 6 cylinders which was part of the Passat family and later than these. I maintain the CC is a cool car for young people, I love mine!
@EFerrorfile
@EFerrorfile 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I had to get to own a VR6, for the sound that for me is simply the best exhaust note in the world. So I had a few cars to choose from (excluding the 2.8's and 2.9's): Golf R32, Audi A3 3.2, Passat B6 3.2 and 3.6, Passat B7 3.6, or Passat CC 3.6. I went for the CC, what a great car. I skipped the 3.2's, because I just wanted a bit more power... And the CC definitely is a looker. Mine has some aftermarket exhaust stuff done to it, but it's not loud and certainly does not pop and bang. I average about 9-10 litres per 100 km, which is the same or slightly better than my previous A4 with that 3.2 V6 (less power, less torque, car was about 150kg lighter, manual...), so coming from that - this CC is one hell of an improvement.
@supersecularboypants
@supersecularboypants 2 жыл бұрын
@@EFerrorfile Hell yeah. The facelift CC is gorgeous! Such a timeless design
@EFerrorfile
@EFerrorfile 2 жыл бұрын
@@supersecularboypants I have the non-facelifted version, but still a very good looking car.
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
It's my car in the video, I may be wrong on this so happy to be corrected if I am, but I believe the 3.6 in the CC's has slightly different internals, cams etc so I don't think they quite match the figures of the actual R36's
@EFerrorfile
@EFerrorfile 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenjamanWoolner My CC from 2009 has the 3.6 BWS, isn't that the exact R36 engine? EDIT: Well, according to Wikipedia - R36 engine code is BWS.
@keithanderson6127
@keithanderson6127 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I have the sensible but silly Skoda Superb 3.6 with a similar (slightly detuned apparently) VR6 engine to the R36. 4x4, DSG gearbox, leather, all the same goodies as the R36 but much more space in the back. Very rare (only a couple of hundred sold in the UK) and also a real sleeper. Would be an interesting comparison..
@neinnein9306
@neinnein9306 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 3.2 V6 Passat also with 4x4. Acceleration from 0-100 is just one second slower, but it was much cheaper in 2008. It still gives me joy on every ride.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the Škoda Superb came with the same bonkers drive train, that's got to be an ultimate Q car.
@smokeithot
@smokeithot 2 жыл бұрын
Proud owner of 3.6L Škoda Superb here. Its a cool family car that has a nice pull. Special fun in winter and icy roads :)
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
And today's cars are all shit, wow I'm so happy.🙄
@Cmnore
@Cmnore 2 жыл бұрын
I currently have the American equivalent (nearly), the 4Motion vr6 wagon. Two, actually. A 2008 DD and a 2007 that was recently totalled by a stopsign-runner. The drivetrain from that car will live on in my 1997 Passat wagon as a donor. Love these cars!
@hiemabedrog
@hiemabedrog 2 жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope you "totalled" the stop-sign runner...
@robc5955
@robc5955 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget, they did a Skoda superb estate with the same engine etc if you want a total ‘q’ car, and less creaky dash plastics.
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 2 жыл бұрын
The Superb is definitely more superior than the Passat.
@PeloMR2
@PeloMR2 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see another review of the R36. I've had one for a few years now, it isn't cheap to run, but is fun to drive for a big wagon. Mine is the classy blue colour and hasn't had any major issues. Perfect for taking the family camping, with a couple of bikes and a box on the roof!
@glencameron5454
@glencameron5454 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2010 R36 wagon for 6 years. Loved every day. Even took it to track days with the baby seat in the back, even beat a few evo’s! Same fuel gauge issue with it only working half the time. Upgraded to a 2015 B8 RS4, absolutely love it. Strangely though still miss the R36. Such a great car. Thank you so much for the video. Amazing how you can tease out all aspects of the car that probably took me 6 years! Really hope you get one as a daily driver.
@veefource
@veefource 2 жыл бұрын
Blimey, can't believe I've watched nearly a thousand of James' videos 😀 That thing sounds awesome, the VR6 still has the best sounding 6 cylinder exhaust note imho
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
You... you did it! You reviewed a car that is high on my list of ultimate wants, especially in estate flavour!
@chubbsmasterson
@chubbsmasterson 2 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine got one of these imported from Japan and loves it. Nice rare item to have on the road, mapping the gearbox improves its nicely
@tomd-k830
@tomd-k830 2 жыл бұрын
I drive a B6 (2.0TDI) myself and Jesus I love this car so much. Put 50kkm on per year and still smile every time I get in it. Great video!
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
I have done 160k miles in mine now - still puts a smile on my face 14 years on. Can't think what I might change it for when it eventually dies, but it keeps passing MOTs with no advisories so why change?
@yeliaheuw
@yeliaheuw 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a b6 tdi and it’s actually the best car i’ve had so far. Interior is amazing, seats are so good, actually a bit fun at times since i bought it with some very good tires
@lesrogers7310
@lesrogers7310 2 жыл бұрын
B7 2.0TDI owner here. Do any of you B6 owners have experience of the the B5 or B5.5 generation? While i love this car it feels very much like a build quality downgrade over that era of Passats.
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
@@lesrogers7310 Yes, i had a B5.5 saloon before my B6. I think the B6 definitely feels 'lighter' in terms of doors shutting and things like that. The 1.9 TDI 130 engine in my B5.5 was far rougher than the 2.0TDI in my B6 but arguably the 1.9 is a more reliable engine. Swings and roundabouts. The B7 did quite a lot to right some of the wrongs of the B6 (particularly electrical issues) and added more sound deadening. Having said all that, i think the B5/5.5 era is rose tinted slightly, they still have mega issues with Window regulators and door locks and peeling trim like most VWs of their era. Dependable engines but the rest of the car slowly starts to fall apart around the mechannicals as with all German cars.
@lesrogers7310
@lesrogers7310 2 жыл бұрын
@@timprice5 Thanks for your reply. I get what you're saying about the rose tinted aspect of the B5/B5.5. Mine developed problems with the central locking quite early into my ownership. The trim was actually really solid and in my 10 years of owning my 2.0 petrol, all i had done to it was a cam belt job, exhaust downpipe/flexi, tyres and brake discs/pads (all round).The ride in that thing was superb, beating many of the previous older luxury cars i had owned.
@jboi9309
@jboi9309 Жыл бұрын
These R36 were so underated.. Never seen many of these at all on the road.. People favoured the TDI versions over these..
@humanbean899
@humanbean899 2 жыл бұрын
I have the slightly smaller brother of this engine - a MK1 Audi TT 3.2 VR6, with manual gearbox! It feels so special whenever you get in for a drive, bespoke interior that hasn't been replicated in any other VAG car of the era or since - it still looks brand new. The VR6 engine makes the car feel like a mini GT supercar, until you smash it through the gears and down the B roads, then it really sings. 0-60 in under 6 seconds (Audi figures are incorrect) It really is a fantastic machine.
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 2 жыл бұрын
I know you say frequently in videos about diesel cars once being what everyone wanted and now no one wants. I have to assume this is just your opinion, because nearly every time I speak to someone looking to buy a used car, except just for the city, tells me they’re looking at diesels. Don’t get me wrong. I much prefer a petrol, but the demand for diesel cars on the used market is still very much alive and kicking for obvious reasons over their petrol equivalent and also looking at used prices the diesels get a higher sale price than their petrol version of that model. If anything it seems as though larger petrol engine cars in various models up to V6 and V8 are the least popular despite being the nicest to drive purely because of running costs. They are the most expensive to tax and fuel and often more to insure. My point is that from my experience many people still opt for an oil burner as a used purchase.
@andreanastacio9548
@andreanastacio9548 2 жыл бұрын
Oqning a diesel myself, and living in a country populated primarily by diesels, this was absolutly the case just a few years ago, but from what I can see on the used market, the trend is changing (fairly rapidly too). Just a few years ago I`d find any given diesel car for sale, and I would come across petrol versions with less miles for less money, while now used petrols pop up for sale much more rarely in comparison, and high mileage ones are for sale for similar money to a diesel car with similar mileage, and in come cases the mileage is actually higher on said petrol car, vs diesels of a similar price... Peole are becomming increasingly aware of the pitfalls of diesels as a short distance commuter, and the fact that diesel is now nearly the se price as petrol (it used to be significantly cheaper), combined with higher insurance and repair costs makes it an increassingly less atractive proposition. The fact that diesels are basicly banned in city centers, the fact that petrol cars can be afapted to run on the significantly cheaper E85 (which is becomming increasingly readily available), while diesels have no eco friendly alternative (bio diesel is a thing but almost impossible to find in my area, and it doesn`t play well with modern oil burners either due to it`s methanol content)... I personally love diesels for their torque end fuel economy, but even I am tempted to go (turbo) petrol, mostly because my commute is way too short to justify a diesel
@jameshunterford4099
@jameshunterford4099 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreanastacio9548 This is interesting and people’s requirements must vary. In the part of the country I live we don’t have the big city emissions zones to contend with and I think I’m talking mainly about cars of a certain age. Things like 1.0 turbo engines in family hatchbacks are quite recent and I see the benefit there in tax, fuel economy, ulez etc.
@andreanastacio9548
@andreanastacio9548 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameshunterford4099 I live fairly close to a low emissions zone and the average commute for most peole in the area is either short or mostly stop and go traffic. Diesels before 2011 aren`t allowed in the low emissions zone during the week, while post 2006 petrol cars are still allowed (legislation is set to change this summer, but still) the used car market is also mostly diesels, so all these things are making cheap low mileage petrol cars rare and vary desireable...
@UnknownUser-rb9pd
@UnknownUser-rb9pd 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my Mazda 6 diesel for £11k less than list price at 8 months old (ex company car). It has now lost another £4k in four years. Based on that I'd say that diesels were unpopular a few years ago but the recent 2nd hand car price hikes (and fuel price hikes ?) have made them more popular again.
@lewis72
@lewis72 2 жыл бұрын
If you want low running costs, IMO, you're best off with a port-injected petrol engine car with no turbos or superchargers. Diesels may give you good fuel economy but if it's an HPDI diesel and your DPF, fuel pump or injectors die, then you'll be paying a lot.
@trentsunich4855
@trentsunich4855 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see a review of this car , one that was largely ignored by the motoring press at the time. Mine is a silver wagon too and am liking it more and more due to engine handling etc. Thanks from NZ.
@stephenmuir5108
@stephenmuir5108 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review and hit all the main points Jay. I’ve owned 2 R36s - both saloons and loved every mile in them. Seats are so good and supportive for those with bad backs and the DSG+VR6 combo are exceptional! Definitely one of the best cars I’ve owned but just a little bit dated now. Highly recommended 👍🏼
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, in real world driving (commuting, a bit of fun at the lights and a quick dash along B roads etc. What fuel figures did you see?
@stephenmuir5108
@stephenmuir5108 2 жыл бұрын
@@skylined5534 if you’re worried about fuel figures… it’s probably not the car for you! On a steady run motorway miles… can hit 33mpg. About town and enjoying it… then half that number. But plenty smiles per mile 👌🏼
@clemensstrahammer7975
@clemensstrahammer7975 Жыл бұрын
The Nickname of VR6 engines was "Wookie" because of the sound when revving...
@900pokeman
@900pokeman 2 жыл бұрын
i love these, honestly think it’s one of the coolest VWs money can buy. the styling changes of the r36 really change it from a fairly boring car (my dad owns a 2.0 tdi that’s been in the family since new), into a very nice sleeper that’s very quirky, interesting and fun.
@apizzaparty
@apizzaparty 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the closest thing you can get here in North America.. 2006 sport package 3.6 4motion. About 30 less horse and a tiptronic box. I loved the car and hopefully one day will have another
@Eduardolo1964
@Eduardolo1964 2 жыл бұрын
This engine gives me goosebumps, partly because that's what the VR6 in the Golf 3 sounds like, but the R36 design is already hard to digest.
@TheCommentator353
@TheCommentator353 2 жыл бұрын
you know it’s legit when the engine revs and youtube’s automatic closed captions go [Music]
@LegalEliminator
@LegalEliminator 2 жыл бұрын
i love my vr6 passat. i bought a 3.6 CC, pretty sure it's the same underpinnings but with a sleek saloon body. It's fast and extremely quiet and comfortable. I'm disappointed that VW has gone away from the vr6. with a lot of performance cars starting to go more for turbo v6s rather than v8s, i reckon the compactness of the vr6 would have been an absolute boon if vw had properly kept with it.
@nickw8988
@nickw8988 4 ай бұрын
I got the same. Cracking motor. Great for long distance cruising and what a lovely smooth, great sounding engine it has. 170k and still going strong 👍 great at the lights 😁
@southerndiy1
@southerndiy1 2 жыл бұрын
Great cars. My wife got a Passat B7 V6 Highline wagon, and I liked it so much that I bought a MY10.5 R36 wagon for myself. Very underrated in Australia which makes it excellent value.
@andyb8231
@andyb8231 Жыл бұрын
only just started watching -- no messing about - well organized -- easy to follow and search through content - says it as it is -- TOP YOU TUBER - great vid = now subscribed
@Harpreet06
@Harpreet06 2 жыл бұрын
The R36 was the car I recommended to you when you were asking for suggestions and ended up with the Maserati.
@andersnielsen6044
@andersnielsen6044 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy 5 R36's for 1 Maserati.
@johnandrews3568
@johnandrews3568 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. We never got the R36 in Canada but I've got an 07 2.0T 6MT wagon and have over 300,000km on it. Best car I've ever owned. Tons of space and comfort, good looks and reliable AF and yes, even fun to drive. Thanks for the review.
@rjhandley556
@rjhandley556 2 жыл бұрын
Favourite KZbinr reviewing what almost certainly will be the car I buy to keep as a collectable. Todays a good day!
@bsodgamer1234
@bsodgamer1234 10 ай бұрын
Never knew that I own one too
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 жыл бұрын
Pop out key pad back 2008/9 when model generation c.4/5 years old was so so exciting just to see as a lowly car trader selling these. Came on SE-L Models as an option…. Saw 1 or 2 never more than 3. Had about 50 of these. The diesels, even as Highline models, dire dull yawn boring drive. The SE L DSGs Petrols were nice. But at 21 Classic car show video’d a black R36!! Up at Ten grand. Was tempted. Glad of this video , thanks. Aurally ace this video. The engine note , Hmmmmm. Nice. !!! You wouldn’t get much in cabin windows up winter guess ?????
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni 2 жыл бұрын
The 3.6 VR6 isn't entirely gone, though. The Atlas (US only three row crossover) still has it, as well as a few other VW models that I don't know of.
@nickk1658
@nickk1658 2 жыл бұрын
Do what I did. Get a B6 2.0 TDI manual. Easily mapped to around 300lb-ft and still get 60mpg on the motorway. Nicely tuned suspension and it handles superbly while maintaining ride comfort. A real sleeper. Yes,, you don't get the fabulous V6 soundtrack but as the former owner of two Alfa 75 3.0 QVs, I can tell you that the noise will inevitably lead you to drive the R36 in such a way that you'll end up getting 20mpg.... Can confirm that the e-brake motors are a consistent and regular problem but they're easy to change.
@MatWilson2612
@MatWilson2612 2 жыл бұрын
I daily drive this in Australia, the recent fuel price hike has made me upset however haha. It's still a wonderful car and I love it though.
@0T13
@0T13 2 жыл бұрын
This is what i like to see, excellent review. really enjoyed this one!
@Lukeywoodsey
@Lukeywoodsey 2 жыл бұрын
The Mark 5 Golf R32 is one of my favourite cars, this just just a bigger version. Good looking and like a mini Audi RS6
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely that!
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
It flies under the radar, a lot of people don't know what it is, even if you tell them it's a bored out version of the R32 engine they don't understand 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣
@martinboulden3540
@martinboulden3540 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous car James. And awesome work on hitting 1,000 videos - That’s mental.
@kennyg4744
@kennyg4744 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1992 944 from a guy who had to sell as his wife was about to have twins. He promised he would sell the 944 and buy a sensible estate car, and an R36 was what he bought. I thought that was hilarious.
@k-peezy2723
@k-peezy2723 2 жыл бұрын
That guy knew what he was doing, and he did it well!
@simoncowley4966
@simoncowley4966 2 жыл бұрын
Loved mine, had it for about 3 years a real sheep in wolfs clothing, fastest VW at the time. Loaded with extras even heated rear seats.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
Heated REARS? That's pretty swish! I'd love one of these.
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome car. Saw one recently in that blue colour they came it was fantastic. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
@simonf8490
@simonf8490 2 жыл бұрын
I considered getting an R36 not long ago but with EVs and more eco friendly engines, the R36 is enjoying a renaissance, alot of owners are no longer willing to part with them and those who are can charge a pretty decent amount especially on unmodified versions.
@tecdesigns8183
@tecdesigns8183 2 жыл бұрын
The blue R36 is the best colour. I'd love one but outta my price bracket.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
The note from a vr6 is intoxicating ,,, then you have to feed it and the novelty soon wears off ,, then you press the loud pedal again , and remember why its worthy of the cost to run as a daily.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
@S F lol ,,, thats what Im shopping for at the moment ,,, so I really hope your right . And I hope I get a better than 12mpg out of a dub too.
@audiwankenobi361
@audiwankenobi361 2 жыл бұрын
@S F man please! My B6 Passat is the better sounding than any 6 cylinder BMW without question!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
Bit like a Maserati then!
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars Its why I seem to do sensible car ,,, silly car ,, turn and turn about .
@mattvanders
@mattvanders 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm as a 3.2 vr6 tt owner the noise does strange things to people
@briandoan3837
@briandoan3837 2 жыл бұрын
The VR6 3.6..vs the W8.....More reliable. More power. Better gas mileage. A great engine. The 3.6 wagon a sleeper. In the US you could get it as a fwd or awd. Forget the awd. Just a shame you can't have it with an MT. The car in the video sounds great!
@WongManShing
@WongManShing 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this yesterday, "Why hasn't JayEmm made a video on the R36 yet?" this car in my opinion is very much your kind of car!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
And you're correct
@kaitheredninja9919
@kaitheredninja9919 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God!! When I saw this upload, I literally went yahoo!!! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️👌
@jensdroessler3575
@jensdroessler3575 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of a Passat 3.2 of the same type I had similar experience. The thing with the automatic brake happened to me twice as well. If you know what to do it isn‘t even that big of a deal. The little motor driving the brake is shot anyway in most cases, so you just rip it off with bare hands. The two plastic mounts break easily. Then you use what you have to screw back the actual brake and just drive off. Get a new motor from eBay or similar (VW won‘t sell the motor separately), mount it and off you go.
@Danny-204
@Danny-204 2 жыл бұрын
A mate of mine has a Black estate R36, and it is a fantastic car. I think he has had it for a few years now. His was owned by the manager of a vw dealership before he got it.
@Conor42203
@Conor42203 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it is just a VAG product but a very unusual one is why I love mine
@SuperBijoux
@SuperBijoux 2 жыл бұрын
You can find the same engine from the R36 on the next generation Passat, the B7, without a special bodykit, that is a factory sleeper
@chrisbailey1966
@chrisbailey1966 2 жыл бұрын
I had a B6 saloon 2.0 diesel 170PS with the DSG box until 2012. It was a good car that always felt very solid, with the need for some more space I should probably got the R36 estate but I got an ex-demo Focus ST Estate instead that was good for the price but always felt tinny and cheap in comparison.
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
Then you definitely need to look at a B8. A million miles smoother and quieter than a B6
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 2 жыл бұрын
@timprice5 I had a 2.0 TDI B8 A4 Avant, loved it! Saw it the other day parked up in Walsall, still looks utterly mint 3 years on!
@drewwagar
@drewwagar 2 жыл бұрын
Saw this car at our local car meet and had a chat to the owner. Lovely oddball car and enthusiast owned. A bit different and a cool talking point - a bit more exciting than our B6 Passat TDI 2.0, but just as practical! ;)
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned a black r36 saloon for about 5 years. I'm going to try and keep it another 5. It should be fine. The body is galvanised, Ithink, but the front wings are not. We can bolt on new ones if they go. I had the parking brake issue and a couple of sensors, when I got it. New exhaust, but it's been totally reliable since then. Not seen another one yet. That's a first for me , even though I've had other rare models.
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember posting this. Still got car though!
@adampalmer4024
@adampalmer4024 2 жыл бұрын
How about the MK4 generation of ford Mondeo estate.. the one with the manual gearbox and the 5pot Volvo engine as your next practical car.. I'm sure many of us in the titanium X sport owners group would happily make the car or its 2.2 diesel equivalent available for a test drive.. then you just have to find one..
@Dan_Cartlidge
@Dan_Cartlidge 2 жыл бұрын
I agree I’d like to see him review one of them. Preferably a Ghia in that brown/orange colour for maximum Q-car points!
@polo6n1600i
@polo6n1600i 2 жыл бұрын
I've had one of the even rarer B6 SEL with the 3.2 VR6 in it. Mines artic blue & blends nicely into the sea of diesel ones! Had it 6 years now & it handles everything I've thrown at it with a family of 5 + Labrador!
@k-peezy2723
@k-peezy2723 2 жыл бұрын
As one of those "VAG guys groaning about the W8 video" (only because I own one), was this an apology video or an actual R36 appreciation video? 🤣I think you nailed the key differences and comparison factors though. And as one of those W8 folks, I'll admit that an R36 is probably a much more sensible runabout. Too bad we never got one in the US though!
@Rhowhat
@Rhowhat 2 жыл бұрын
W8 club represent!
@AWMJoeyjoejoe
@AWMJoeyjoejoe 2 жыл бұрын
I was pulled over by one of these once in the Czech Republic. Good times.
@iiooppjjkkll
@iiooppjjkkll 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video, nice car/spec for money. like that fact that it was modified . Think it would worth looking a cams/pistons to bring rpm limit up 1000 rpm for more drama and maybe a few extra horses. I’m sure if it was a long term keeper, you could take 100 kg out without much trouble.
@buchinsku
@buchinsku 2 жыл бұрын
I have a B7 3.6L VR6 Passat wagon/estate from 2012. One full generation after the R36. Same 300bhp.
@spainter1985
@spainter1985 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a left field choice, cool looking car. However, no automatic car needs more than 6 gears, it just makes them more indecisive as to which ratio they should be in, when in 'D'. For most people looking for an estate though (and don't live in a emission controlled city), the diesel variant still appeals to the majority of people other than petrol heads.
@jerkopatrik
@jerkopatrik 2 жыл бұрын
The 2.0 pd can be a good choice if either you or the previous owner took care of the hexagon shaft problem, which can destroy the engine. It’s a common fix nowadays though and it’s permanent once you do it. After that, it’s a fairly good powertrain
@suuuwiiiarmy
@suuuwiiiarmy 2 жыл бұрын
Got rid of the R32 a few months ago as needed something bigger - still gutted every day!! Think I need to update to the R36 now!
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
Well worth it, I love driving that beast around
@ljphoenix4341
@ljphoenix4341 2 жыл бұрын
Sporty wagons will always be cool to me! Never knew about this car until i saw this video.
@martynskinner930
@martynskinner930 2 жыл бұрын
I owned one for a spell, chewed full set of tyres every 10k, brick hard stock suspension and drank fuel. No use for my 20k average miles at the time. I still miss it.
@demonic082
@demonic082 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you compare it against the Maserati for being a daily. It is missing something that the Maserati has though.
@f.k.3762
@f.k.3762 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, all the pain that comes with owning a Maserati :)
@warrenflood2809
@warrenflood2809 2 жыл бұрын
Cool car. If you are looking for a more 'sensible' replacement for the Maserati you need to try a 159 SW 2.4JDTM Q4 - just a bit bigger than this, economical for the long haul and the most beautiful estate ever to boot. If you want it to sound as good however you will need to be the first to stick a Busso in it - this VR6 sounds glorious. The 2.4 JDTM is possibly one of the best sounding diesels if you let it breath, but no competiton for the VR6. A stroked, 3.7L Busso V6 however with the Q4 system from a 156 Crosswagon and now we are talking the unicorn of estates.
@BrainDeath89
@BrainDeath89 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Greetings from Germany
@Rhowhat
@Rhowhat 2 жыл бұрын
Always really liked the R36 but it was a little less interesting than the W8. As a prospect to own though ....I'll probably take the R36. That's despite my family having owned a W8 since 2005, there was talk of swapping it for an R36 when they were fairly new but they were hard to find and surprisingly expensive.
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
It's my car in the video, I've had it about 4 years now I think & it still cost most £10k but I want to enjoy cool, unusual engined cars whilst they still exist 🙂
@Rhowhat
@Rhowhat 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenjamanWoolner it's a great car, I hope you continue to enjoy it. I always get a kick out of spotting one on the road as they are so rare and so few people know what they are.
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I've turned up to various shows & been directed to the car park as people don't know what it is. It's too sleeper 🤣 that's why I like the tyre lettering etc, it just makes people look a little & question why that grandad car has Michelin on with the letters painted 🤣
@lazarushernandez5827
@lazarushernandez5827 2 жыл бұрын
Just a note, the 3.6 VR6 engine has a 10.6 degree V, not 15 degree like the rest of the VR6s.
@laser-sj
@laser-sj 2 жыл бұрын
900 videos on porche. 97 on everything else 😂😉 Keep up the good work !
@TimendeVries
@TimendeVries 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the very first generation of Passat that camr with a VR6, excellent cars
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 2 жыл бұрын
My dad still drives his bought new '07 Passat Estate 3.2 VR6 4Motion. They brought out the R36 just afterwards, he would have got it if it came out 6 months earlier. The 3.2 is also a great engine, and any passat that isn't a 4 pot diesel is cool in my books
@audiwankenobi361
@audiwankenobi361 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently trying to sale my 2008 Volkswagen Passat VR6 4MOTION Wagon in Daytona Beach Florida.....we never got the R36 over here but my car is close.
@bsodgamer1234
@bsodgamer1234 10 ай бұрын
I own one of these myself and this is a really rare car here in NZ. (150 in nz)
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a B6 Passat for the past 14 years and if you keep them that long they do tend to have a few issues. Common ones are - door handles not working on outside, oil pump shaft failure on the 2.0TDI PD engines, fuel pump failure, rust (tailgate of 2005-2008 cars usually), parking brake issues, steering wheel lock failure. Having sorted all these issues on mine it has been reliable for many years now but would I recommend one to a friend who is less inclined to do work on it themselves? Nope! I believe Jay, the estate boot is 640 litres with the seats up, 1650 ish with them down. I think the 530 ish figure is the saloon
@riccccccardo
@riccccccardo 2 жыл бұрын
So the normal repairs for a vag car that cost tons of money ££££
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
@@riccccccardo correct!
@heavy_hate5346
@heavy_hate5346 2 жыл бұрын
Holy F that wagon looks insane! Amazing!
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@tdmtam
@tdmtam 2 жыл бұрын
Just got to love the exhaust note from the VR 6
@KeoghDave
@KeoghDave 2 жыл бұрын
waht about the CC 3.6. didn't get the R badge but had everything else. i love mine. had it 3 years now. great video though!
@daanwth
@daanwth 2 жыл бұрын
1:29 Wait a second!! The Passat B7 also got the 3.6 V6 ;) It was'nt called the R36, just a ''V6'' badge! Addition: in the USA they still get the Passat ''GT'' with a V6!
@Nitramrec
@Nitramrec 2 жыл бұрын
To clarify that: "VR" doesn't mean that this engine is a combination of a V- and an inline (Reihen-) engine. It is the german abbreviation of "Verkürzter Reihenmotor" (that means "Shortened inline engine"), because it has the crankshaft of an inline-6 with 6 cranks, not 3 as that one of a V6. It's actually an inline engine with 6 inclined cylinders by 10,6 or 15 degrees, which then could be moved closer together to built a shorter engine. Thats all. 😉
@Asic229
@Asic229 2 жыл бұрын
The vw passats are such nice cars usually. I have a b7 i4 passat and it looks amazing with such awesome small futures. Although I would've preferred the vr6, apr does tunes for ecu that can bring the horsepower into the high 200s. Such a fun car to drive, and the turbo sounds amazing.
@iancharlton678
@iancharlton678 Жыл бұрын
Torsen system for when you need and will use 4 wheel drive…….. Haldex for when you fear you might need 4 wheel drive, but know you won’t …… 🙂 I have a trio of Haldex……. XC90 - never knowingly deployed, MAN TGE van - ditto and my work truck Yeti, used frequently………
@garywbrooks
@garywbrooks 2 жыл бұрын
Had mine 6 years... Love it.
@roymoorman5990
@roymoorman5990 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for your comment on the amber aftermarket running lights :-) . Whenever I see a car with these kind of modifications , 9 out of 10 times the performance badges are fake. I would respect it more as a sleeper. Even remove the R36 badge.
@7spower998
@7spower998 2 жыл бұрын
8:15 In fact in German VR very much literally means Verkürzt Reihen - Shortened Inline, not a straight V. 8:29 Verkürzt Reihen - Shortened Inline with staggered 10.6° V cylinder bores. 8:33 VR6 - 2 = VR4. Pair of VR4 @ 72°cylinder V-banks = W8
@Nitramrec
@Nitramrec 2 жыл бұрын
That's right, because ist also has the crankshaft of an inline-6 with 6 cranks, not only 3 as that one of a V6. It's actually an inline engine with 6 inclined cylinders by 10,6 or 15 degrees, which then could be moved closer together to built a shorter engine. Thats all.
@7spower998
@7spower998 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nitramrec That's correct. The VR6 is also known by the Bimmer boys as the crooked IL6. Unfortunately, many KZbinrs and auto journalists don't know that the V in the VR means Verkürzt, not Vee. That's true, it's a staggered IL6 with 6-crank throws & 7-main bearings vs the V6 3-crank throws & 4main bearings. And naturally sounds more like an IL6 than a V6.
@7spower998
@7spower998 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nitramrec Agreed. Many don't understand that VR 6 has a 6-pin crankshaft just like an I6, 120° even-firing engine.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 2 жыл бұрын
Small tidbit, the VR6 is quite rightly a very small angle V6 with shared head. The W8 isnt a VR6 with 2 cylinders added on the end though, so the comment about it being the two heads that make it a W8 might lead some to that conclusion. Rather, the W8 is what is effectively two "VR4"s arranged in a more traditional "V" configuration, making the two heads mechanically necessary. So its another configuration from the VR6 again, not any more similar than a straight 6 vs a V6.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the W8 video goes into more depth about that specific configuration, I figured anyone interested in that would watch that video
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars Good to hear, I have watched it when it came out, but my memory fails me at my old age. Thanks.
@antep6157
@antep6157 2 жыл бұрын
love these, we have a b6 as well, 2 litres down tho, these r36's have the best sounding 6cyl imo
@kevfartt
@kevfartt 2 жыл бұрын
Fairly certain they did fit a ‘V6’ to the B7 in some markets
@grootsan
@grootsan 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my R36 Blue Sedan today from my taxi manager who is as mad with cars as I am mad with (model)trains. I have always had old cars the last being a 4 liter straight six Australian Ford Falcon. It looked absolutely tacky inside and out with dull paint and scratches but never let me down and ...... was reliable and good for my wallet. However I was confronted with an opportunity that I could not refuse two weeks ago. It is from 2008, has done 166.500 kilometers (not miles) and looks like it comes from the showroom. God knows I'd much rather spend my (pension)money on a nice modeltrain with sound but I have made an exception here. I hope this VW also takes me from A to B in a reliable and comfy manner ........ although I realize I have to spend a bit more money than with the Falcon. The Falcon made some exhaust noise and so does this one. Cheers, Jan, Australia BTW Nothing can beat this sound ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3S2dH2ggL6Ca68
@redgetanj
@redgetanj 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to know which car rated highest in the industry standard husky-on-the-backseat test! Brilliant review as always!
@stephenoverstreet9898
@stephenoverstreet9898 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved the R product line. Very nearly bought an R32 back in 2008. Timely review. I’ve been looking for my next daily, and considering a 2011 Touareg with the VR6 that someone has turned into an R36 or sorts. Thanks for the useful information, especially for the engine.
@ClubsportEvoluzione
@ClubsportEvoluzione 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely get a blue R36 as your next sensible car.
@Noise-Bomb
@Noise-Bomb 2 жыл бұрын
He is right about ne numbers thing. always got me as a child.
@DanPyjamas
@DanPyjamas 2 жыл бұрын
I know the blue you're talking about. I knew someone with the blue saloon. Gorgeous
@timprice5
@timprice5 2 жыл бұрын
Biscay Blue (LC5C)
@simonk337
@simonk337 2 жыл бұрын
If you're getting rid of the Maserati and considering one of these, you need to to at the Legacy. The offer to drive my BR9 still stands.
@seanh5648
@seanh5648 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my 2.0tdi b6. Always wanted a R36. 90% of the time the handbrake problems is the switch. Just get a genuine part.
@WhiteMouse77
@WhiteMouse77 2 жыл бұрын
...this tuned passat use to be interceptor machine of higway police in some EU countries and many super-car fuel-feets were quite stumped finding out such estate biting their rear wing with in-grille built blue beacons in speed veeery far over 150 MPH.....
@cvillalobos27
@cvillalobos27 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at opening throttle
@BenjamanWoolner
@BenjamanWoolner 2 жыл бұрын
🤤🤣
@7spower998
@7spower998 2 жыл бұрын
Fabolous sound of the VR6!
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