The Legion GO is disappointing...

[@look2christ777]

Having owned both the SD and ROG Ally, the Legion Go has not been disappointing in the slightest. Its actually quite impressive and prefer it over the SD and Ally

[@creepystory2490]

Do you ever experience glitches on legion go?

[@look2christ777]

@@creepystory2490 No, not really. Legion space was a bit wonky at first but was resolved with bios updates.

[@marikishtar]

$900 tho 💀

[@Dex2R7]

How is 2 USB C ports weird? Having a port on the top and bottom is great. You can plug in an external monitor + peripherals into the other. You can use an eGPU + accessories. Or just choose which port is more convenient for the occasion.

[@sirmonkey1985]

GHOSTSTARSCREAMM the dock would use that bottom usb - c slot but the issue is that the legion go doesn't come with a dock and there isn't one sold by lenovo.

[@michelvanbriemen3459]

It's weird because afaik it's the only handheld x86 device with more than 1 USB-C port.

[@richardahlquist5839]

Exactly Dex, the Go has two TB4 / USB 4 ports each on its own PCIe bus lanes. This requires 3 or 4 duplicated IC's per port, so they had to spread them out. This is what a lot of people dont realize. You can literally (I have done it) attach two 40Gbps external NVME and get more than 3000MB/s from both, simultaneously. Or hook up a 1080p display @ 240hz if it supports freesync.

[@Galiant2010]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM It's how the Switch works. Just a USB C port on the bottom for the dock. And docks expand the number of ports, giving more type C and/or A ports and HDMI and sometimes Ethernet, as well as letting you pass through charging through the dock.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@michelvanbriemen3459 how is it weird? the GPD WIN 4, GPD WIN MINI, AYANEO KUN, AYANEO SLIDE and others all have 2 USB-C ports it's not rocket science guys.... it's a 2 min GOOGLE search

[@marcmaingot2858]

I think one of the biggest pros of the detachable controllers is the fact that they can be replaced if there is stick drift or stuck buttons etc…

[@crestofhonor2349]

You know all of these are very upgradable including the deck and Ally. Sticks can be easily replaced by the user and drift shouldn't be an issue on the Legion since it's a hall based analog stick

[@Yodalemos]

I'm still waiting for Hal-efect controllers I can buy.

[@AAAZZZ-f3i]

There is one more to the list to check out and I got bad news about it please get one and test it I like to know your view points on the MIS CLAW It is more expensive $800.00 7 INCH FHD SCREEN 120 FPS INTEL ULTRA 7 155H now for the BAD NEWS its got INTEL ARC GRAPHIC 8 XECORES we all know INTEL ARC SUCKS on TOWER GAMIN.PC I started out NOT BUYING STEAM DECK and NOT ASUS what is left is MSI CLAW I HATE INTEL ARC and then all of a sudden put of the blue LINOVOL LEGION GO (EXTREME) comes in to the battle field what is your review on the MSI CLAW yes that is a stupid name CLAW that sound like that. STUPID ARCADE MACHING that no one wants to play THE CLAW GANE so there you have it dose MAI CLAW is it worth it? I like to know

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@AAAZZZ-f3i The MSI Claw is the worst option due to poor intel drivers and performance that's incredibly inconsistent. Plus the Core Ultra 5 ends up outperforming the Core Ultra 7 in many games since it takes less power for the CPU. Most games have the Ally winning at 15w even with the Claw maxed out. The select few games it does win in like RDR2 are so few and far between it's not worth talking about. Not to mention a few older games refusing to launch on intel iGPUs

[@VSMOKE1]

You would rather replace the whole controller than replace a part lololololololol contributing to the e-waste

[@DougLarsenMN]

My response to this video. False. It is not disappointing at all.

[@boudou2286]

Can the go run heavy games like cyberpunk and starfeild at a stable 60 fps ?

[@DougLarsenMN]

All depends on settings.

[@Fire.Editzz]

@@DougLarsenMNI agree

[@teothegr8688]

@@boudou2286depends on settings low is 60 and medium 40-50

[@sherlockholmes870]

​@@Fire.Editzzme to

[@Moxnzl]

Have tried all three, I think each is great in their own way. - Legion Go is much more versatile than the rest and the bigger screen is absolutely fantastic. I have a portable gaming monitor that flips out like a tablet (18") and packing that + legion go = full PC when away on business etc + portable for on the plane etc. Biggest downside would be the battery/size compared to the Steam Deck. - Steam Deck OLED is MUCH more user friendly... it just works and the battery life is insanely good. However it's much less versatile than the rest re options and compatibility and after using the Go the screen feels very small. - ROG Ally if the Legion Go is too big for you, however the overheating issue is bleh. I think it comes down to personal preference and at what price you can get each product for.

[@dreamcat04]

What did you mean with overheating on the Ally? Mine doesn't really get that hot, though the SD card reader died after two weeks (I only checked 2w after I got it)

[@Moxnzl]

@@dreamcat04 SD reader Dying = the overheat issue.

[@MrDalesen]

Since you have tried all three I would like to ask you something. Here all three cost the same price, the legion, ally and deck. If all three had the same cost, which one would you rather go for?

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

the rog ally doesnt have an overheating issue, it has a default fan curve issue and users are literally too stupid fo fix the fan curve

[@dreamcat04]

@@Robbie-mw5uu Why are they too stupid? What I find annoying is that in the manual mode, ASUS forces us to use 74% fan speed at an APU temperature of between 60°C and 69°C for the fan under the SD card while the other fan is limited at just 45% in the same temp range. Why don't they just force 50% on both fans at that temp range? I don't like how the one fan turns so much faster than the other, so I just set both fans to 74% at 65°C and it's worked very well. Keeps the APU at around 50-52°C above ambient (usually it goes to around 72°C) while being acceptably unquiet. There's only so much you can try to fix a hardware issue with software, it is how it is...

[@intradibles]

This guy is hating on Lenovo. Don't listen to him 🙄

[@andreidavid145]

Important to note that the Legion Go can be used with any usb-c external egpu whereas the Ally can only be used with proprietary Asus gpus. Also, the main feature for the detachable controllers is the fps mode which is something I would be interested in as I cannot play shooters with a controller. I personally like the trackpads on the steam deck and from other reviews I’ve watched the trackpad on the Legion Go is not very good. I have the OG Steam Deck that I got on sale and upgraded to 1TB.

[@Babynate1000]

I love my trackpad

[@Fpsnut]

Correction: Legion Go has quadruple the steamdeck resolution, not double. It's a perfect integer scaling of 4, meaning you can run games on Go at 1280x800 resolution and 1 pixel at that resolution will be the exact equivalent of 4 native pixels with no overshoot or undershoot, best picture quality possible when not running at native res. So in that sense they designed the resolution of this screen very well. You can have a high res display when you need it for movies and what not, and when you rather have performance like when gaming, you can run it at 1280x800 and still get great integer scaling that fills whole screen and retains great image quality.

[@rickgear2579]

This is a good point. I was surprised at how good 800p still looked on this screen.

[@Peacetasyo]

@@rickgear2579i agree with you.. Do you run 800p in game on 1600p native resolution? Or 1200p?

[@rickgear2579]

@@Peacetasyo I wiped out windows and installed Bazzite Steam OS, and sadly I don't feel like I am able to truly take advantage of the extra power afforded by the Legion Go. Still, the useability of SteamOS is vastly superior to Windows. I have to run most games at 800p

[@Eevolved35]

I want to know that, too as a lot of games dont let you change the game resolution separately from the device resolution ​@Peacetasyo

[@meh78336]

You can run the games at 1280x800 while the screen is set to 2560x1600 and turn on RSR and get a sharper more detailed image.

[@KSCTamayoSquadVlog]

Got my Legion Go last month and I have to say I am absolutely loving it, I use it for on-the-fly video editing with my iPhone 15 Pro Max (recording Log straight to SSD and not having to worry about on-board storage also helps). DaVinci Resolve works really well on the Z1Ex and is my go-to mobile video editing solution, I just attach a KB, mouse and dock then detach the controllers when I'm on work mode. I can echo the controller functionality in that it really is a missed opportunity to be able to use them like the switch, there are some third party solutions for having the controllers as a desktop controller ( a good chunk of them are 3D printed), the lack of first party solutions would have been livable if there were more third party solutions available ( the steam deck seems to have that locked down). All-in-all I absolutely adore the Legion Go, I take it with me wherever I go and never have a dull moment with it around. Currently I play MWIII and Diablo IV permanently live on the Legion Go and I just install and uninstall other games when I get bored ( I only have the 512gb version, but I plan to upgrade the SSD to 2tb whenever prices are more desirable) I just wish we weren't stuck with 16gb of RAM

[@travismeo3696]

bro, what about, premiere pro? I tend to have quite the tough time adjusting with resolve, so if you could help me get clarified on the performance, it would be very helpful.

[@datzitteezy]

I have a OLED steam deck and Legion Go. I love them both but the Go is my favorite device.

[@LucidSim]

Thanks for this comment. I have found those with multiple handheld gaming devices like the Deck find the Go to be their favorite

[@diegoe.4639]

How come?

[@eternalfaeri1415]

@@LucidSimsame, which is what sealed my decision to get it (as I can only get one of the handhelds). I don’t have a PC so the Legion makes for a good replacement.

[@EliZeusYT]

Me also got both bro they are awesome devices

[@datzitteezy]

@@diegoe.4639 I love the screen size and detachable controllers.

[@drvish]

I got the Legion Go soon after it was released mainly because of it's larger screen and higher resolution. I use it as my travelling PC for content consumption and light on the go gaming.

[@TheLastEpiscopalian]

Content consumption 😂 Mans gotta eat

[@AbbadonGrey]

So this guy is comparing this handheld to a gaming laptop? Yeah let me compare a mountain bike to a fucking turbo busa.

[@tzywg3399]

FYI, Lenovo was in the gaming pc/laptop area much longer than ROG/asus

[@jasonmiles3263]

As if that matters lol look at apple

[@greyfox2344]

I love this. 4 years ago we didn't have any of these first party handheld gaming pc's, and then Valve came through and essentially put a cornerstone in this market. With its success I knew that other companies would want their piece of the pie and innovate. We're still pretty expensive in this market (2x steam decks for 1 Legion Go?) but I'm happy to see that the customer gets to win with options with the companies' competition for your dollar.

[@shijou2867]

steamdeck availability is limited, and to get it from third party is almost same price as legion go 😅 but yeah price is pricey still, but theres so much potential but it will get better not so soon for first gen handheld pc its a great purchase right now imo

[@McSmurfy]

For me, in my country, the Steam Deck Oled 512GB is more expensive and the Legion Go costs a bit less. Still can't decide which to get because I want something to pick up and play like a console and I have a PS5 and gaming laptop with a Switch. So, from what I've seen the Deck is the best choice to be safe, but the Legion Go looks great with the screen and specs.

[@bobbydigital18]

You can swap the start/select with the legion/settings keys now. I personally love this device, was curious to see what this channel thought

[@daspotjoel]

One mention, you can config the start and select button to the top left and top right buttons in Legion Space fairly easily. I agree though, it's annoying that that's their default position. Great review though!

[@Rob3rtisbmx]

had rog ally at launch i loved it sold it two months ago picked up an a leigon go last week and it in my experience it just has a lot less issues works really well display and comfort are way better on the leigon go i think i like the leigon more tbh

[@DatBoiJrSan408]

It's due to all the updates the Lenovo Legion Go team has been pushing out since its release. I picked it up on release, and it has come a long way with many quality-of-life improvements and bug fixes. I really enjoy this thing; I just wished mine didn't come with the wobbly control issue...

[@ShadowFallenGaming1]

yeah but you can 3d print or pay someone to 3d print a controller center holder that way u can slide them In a shell like the switch

[@Elkarlo77]

Thingiverse has several already to download. But that means either you have a 3D Printer and can it for 1 Dollar, or you pay for printing it around 5-10 Dollar. Dock-Stand is out there as well. But this is a 5-10 cent part from Lenovo to pack into it.

[@BagheeraRaceGamer]

Actually I think that's a good idea. Specially if you actually are one of those who likes to "tinker about"

[@ShadowFallenGaming1]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM what's pointless is you commenting on how pointless this is 🤡

[@Ash-Lad]

Lenovo has also confirmed that they're working on some extra accessories for the Legion Go, so we might even see a first party controller attachment eventually. I know a lot of people have been wanting other controller options, though personally i really like the ones that come in the box, and it seems like Lenovo has been listening closely to feedback from consumers. Whether or not any of these accessories will see the light of day is another story, but we'll just have to wait and see.

[@thegameksk]

You forgot to mention the Ally fries SD cards while Asus pretends everything is okay

[@oo--7714]

nah they pretty much gave a24 year warranty if you have a fried sd card

[@Cenkolino]

The screen of the Legion GO is its biggest selling point and the Allys biggest weakness (together with the battery). I had the Ally in my hands and for a Windows device its display is simply too small.

[@heksheep2502]

I had a similar gripe about the start/select buttons, and it was nearly a dealbreaker for me until I found the option to switch them in the Legion Space software. Literally just a click of a button rebinds the buttons with the two on the left controller, which I am SO happy about. Really wish they touched on that in this video, because while the Legion Space software is god awful (I set it to never run on startup anymore), that was one option I am eternally grateful for.

[@jhiggz13]

This review sucked lol ......smh the hate is real ...I'm no fan boy I've got them all ...but his take is trash

[@rickitynick4463]

I've tried them all for a little bit, and the legion go was the only one that my big hands could hold for more than 45 minutes without wanting to cramp, especially after picking up some 3d printed grips for 20 bucks that make it even better. It's got some quirks, but I absolutely would not trade it for anything else at this point.

[@MicCard]

Phil's doing a great job as a host! keep it up man

[@MobeastGaming2]

I second this

[@cnvdh3514]

I third this.

[@marre2355]

I too this

[@Me11oIngenuity]

This, this.

[@santeenl]

Im sorry but no

[@godsick]

I don’t like this review, you need to ask someone who knows about these things, they’re detachable because one of them is the mouse, and it would suck if only one was detachable, and well if you got them detached, you can have the controllers down to your lap which is way more ergonomic in comparison to having your hands right next to the screen which should be at the level of your vision instead. Yadda yada, so many other things, it’s a different machine, it’s not for everyone. If you prefer something with less performance, a slightly lesser screen, and slightly different focus, pick the others! But yeah, this is the only one with an integrated mouse. That being said, it’s not a gaming pc, stop trying to play high end graphics games on these things, the latency is attrocious, but there’s a million games you can surely play in these type devices that don’t require as much power as the steam deck/ally/legion go and that play smoothly. The battery is almost irrelevant, get an external power bank lol.

[@gamers-generation]

The added functionality from removing the "Gocons" comes from docking the device. If you connect this to your TV let's say and have USB-C out to your TV, you won't need an additional bluetooth controller. As for the START/SELECT buttons, you can swap those in Legion Space. Also... how does this compare to a laptop and/or desktop? Psst, I know a channel that did some comparisons... okay fine it's mine. Also, you can get this refurb now for $590!

[@crestofhonor2349]

Compare? CPU wise it's great. The Z1X is pretty fast and has 8 cores so it works well even with a gaming laptop. GPU wise it's a low end PC just because it's a handheld. At max it matches a GTX 1650 but if you want battery life you won't use that mode

[@docbrody]

Well how does it compare? Whats the bottom line?

[@gamers-generation]

@@crestofhonor2349 Perhaps "comparison" wasn't the best word to use, but when I said comparison I didn't just mean performance. Like Phil says in the video, there's portability in the Go which IMO translates to versatility; Do you need that versatility? Depends highly on your use case. But it's not just a case of a laptop or desktop being a clear winner I'd say.

[@gamers-generation]

​@@docbrody This might sound like a cop out but I promise it isn't. It's completely up to the use case and priorities. I for instance currently value portability over performance and so while my desktop will stomp the Go in performance, I can't take it with me; and I don't want to game in bed with a laptop, or while commuting, so the Go is the clear winner for my particular use case as it also hits the minimum requirement for me in performance.

[@fakerobot0017]

Look, I am a simple man, I heard bullshiet, I click not recommend channel.

[@Toma-621]

The detachable controllers is such a big plus regardless of having a standalone (extra) piece of hardware you have to lug around or not. I think the functionality of being able to use one of the controllers as a mouse is huge and it wouldn't work without the controllers being detachable. Makes it even better if you're couch gaming because you can just use your couch cushions or coffee table as a mouse pad, or get one of those lap boards that you'd put a keyboard and mouse on anyways. It opens up a ton of versatility imo. I also think the lack of a dock doesn't really matter, extra ports will always be welcomed and I don't really see it as an oversight more so than the fact that they didn't intend for it to have a docking station. It'd be more useful as a second monitor anyways, which is what it would be used as when "docked" at most setups

[@hatorihanzo3431]

does the controller become a mouse if you use that fps mode, does it need to be in that "dock" thing? or does it automatically become a wireless "mouse" ?

[@Toma-621]

@@hatorihanzo3431 You just flip the switch and it turns it into a mouse, it doesn't have to be in the dock but it would probably be advisable to use the dock for more comfort

[@woolybear]

I have a Switch and an Anbernic RG35XX Plus for my handheld needs. For the rest, it's on PC, and I feel 100% fulfilled!

[@OverJumpRally]

This review is weird...

[@victorflorinstefan480]

You are trashing the most sophisticated console/PC ever made. Who doesn't want more than 1 usb-c ? What's wrong with having detachable controllers , when you can use them with an adapter ( already available from 3rd party ) to make them into 1, also the FPS mouse feature and also removing them for better portability. Yes the screen is missing VRR ( same as SD ), i don't have any issues with gaming on this device, by contrary i sold the ROG Ally and bought the LeGo just for the screen size and controllers. The time i spend with Ally was so frustrating, always having problems with USB-C video out, small screen, can barely manage any Windows work, by default Sd card slot not working. Ally X would have been a win if they had increased the display size to at last 8 inch and higher resolution, also to include Hall effect joysticks ( since its manly purpose is gaming on this device). Not perfect the LeGo, but still the best ( in my opinion ) and i cannot wait to see the improvements on the next generations.

[@bittertruthnavin]

if I had listened to this guy, I would have been duped from hours of fun waiting for me to be had. I bought the LeGo and now I am slowly but surely going through my steam backlog. The device plays all emulator games upto PS3 consoles with perfection. I am playing my old Urban Reign dump on PS2 emulator and Castlevania on PS3 emulator flawlessly. This guy talks about lack of VRR, but I notice nothing of short in my gameplay. Guys, go and enjoy this handheld. Setup, windows and driver/bios update is a bit of hassle because it takes about an hour to set all that but that's just one time and after that it's just blast. Loving it now than any of other consoles I have. :)

[@Deathgrinder1337]

You can switch the start and select at the top in the settings. So its not an issue

[@teezee1000]

Exactly..

[@nonikita]

8:30 I use the bottom USB port for charging when I'm playing in handheld and the top one when it's in "tablet" mode or when I want to rest my hand on the table , just like on the video. So I am really glad that they have 2 ports.

[@robertren23]

I just bought the Legion GO and it's awesome, I recommend it. About the battery, "BUY A POWERBANK 65 WATT"

[@cooler445]

Yeah the battery genuinely isn't all that great but it's decent atleast compared to the rog ally ( only by a little)

[@Draxan198023]

You will appreciate detachable controllers when you got a painful bad back and when lying in bed you can put a pillow on your stomach with a screen on it, and both hands lie comfortably next to you and you hold the controllers in them and play. Holding it normal way just hurts after a while.

[@gottahavitvt]

I have a very bad back and the last thing I want is to lay flat on my back with a 2lbs tablet on my stomach while holding 2 controllers at my sides.

[@MultipleInterface]

Coming from a guy running a Mac...OK bud

[@AZZZZZZZZZMM]

I have had my Lenovo legion go for two weeks now and I’ve not had any problems or complaints I absolutely love mine especially for people who travel.

[@Chiggs]

Doesn't the ROG Ally still have the SD Card heat problem? Not sure how that's still a viable option if one of the platform's core features eventually winds up broken.

[@teezee1000]

It is I had to send mine back for a new mainboard. Good thing is ASUS knows it’s an issue and extended the warranty another year for card reader issues.

[@Shadowespeon17]

Heat isn't the problem. The reader itself is just bad. The SD card that you think is bricked if it stops working on the device still works on other devices.

[@Chiggs]

@@Shadowespeon17 Appreciate the response. I've heard the exact opposite from other KZbinrs and people on Reddit about the SD cards still working if moved to another device, though. A lot of folks are saying the cards get wrecked.

[@Galiant2010]

I got the Go over the Ally, it was an easy choice. Black, bigger screen, detachable controllers, better cooling. For me my desktop PC and Switch combo wasn't good enough. I only bought the Switch for a few games to play with my sister's kids, but I don't really buy Nintendo games because of how ridiculously overpriced they are. And I already had a huge collection of PC games that I didn't want to have to buy again on the Switch. And you can't use Steam remote play with the Switch, so the functionality of my Switch is very minimal. I use it maybe 5-6 times per year with the kids. The Go lets me do remote play if I have internet, but also lets me carry a catalogue of great games I already owned for places where I won't have internet with much more power to run those games well than they would on the Switch.

[@ramon5998]

this helped me realize while I like the idea of these handhelds; I'm probably going to wait a while before wanting one.

[@cooler445]

And then you'll wait, wait and keep on waiting....

[@PSNDarkSouL]

@@cooler445shit best thing to do cuz all these pc handhelds are trash. I’ll give it another 3 years before they push out a pc handheld that can give me at LEAST 3hrs of battery life while getting 60fps minimum

[@iAmVishNu-dm3lj]

Do yourself a favor and find another reviewer that does his or her homework

[@jonathantroyer2822]

Also the kickstand folds out quite a bit. Just keep folding it open until it stops, then will sit flatter on a desk when hooked up to a monitor, and better acess to the bottom usb-c port

[@DanTAT1987]

I've been listening to the rtfm show again and I love how much phil has really come out of his shell when he is on camera. Defo keep Phil for this subject. He nailed it

[@Aggrosk8]

I really miss them doing the rtfm show.

[@DanTAT1987]

@@Aggrosk8 yeah I have it on for my daily commute

[@SimplyV3rna]

The rant about detachable controller is actually because of the mouse. Period. He even said it. Comes across as shallow rant. I guess he doesn't know what to say to make the video longer so he rants over and over despite contradicting himself.

[@thescottishaccent]

I think this is the first review of this device I've seen that mentions the screen being portrait-native, and this is very interesting to know.

[@Hubwood]

Haven't seen mine then ;)

[@danielcombs5286]

There's an option in the legion menu to change those to the start and select buttons it's pretty simple

[@fouaddaher5158]

Can i connect a g923 logitech wheel to it?

[@draco2xx]

yes

[@DankerTVTimeCapsule]

the only reason i'm not even considering the ally is due to that sd card killing problem. i want to go legion but now there is a cheaper alternative handheld from orange pi coming which if shipped to the UK for under 500, it is a hard choice.

[@redring4083]

To be fair Lenovo's customer support is not great. A solid customer support is important. And Asus has even worse customer support.

[@DaavySnow]

Have my legion go for a while and love it, using it like a laptop on a go or plugged into screen at home. Love the way it blends in on my desk, without the controllers, it looks like a picture frame.

[@mdamian74]

Assuming the two usb c ports were geared towards using with the legion ar glasses and still being able to charge device. The legion AR glasses were released as a companion accessory for Legion Go.

[@rodneya6726]

watch out for Legion Go OLED with AR Glasses coming soon

[@spud4242]

someone will 3D print a holder for the controllers when detached... its just a matter of time...lol

[@mrburns366]

This is the first steam deck alternative that I'd even consider because it has a right touch pad!

[@jackykwan2580]

Touch pad is overhyped. Modify your left and right joystick to mouse cursor and both shoulder right triggers as left and right mouse click you wont even need those bulky trackpads. They are supposed to be on a laptop not console.

[@jackykwan2580]

Considering the position of those trackpads its mostly useless because its so awkward to reach. By doing away the trackpads the joystick can be bigger look at how small it is.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@jackykwan2580 using joysticks as mouse cursors has always been onjectively garbage... what a bad take

[@mrburns366]

@@jackykwan2580 joysticks are shit for aiming.

[@docbrody]

If it has Windows and I can connect a 4K or widescreen display, then I’m all in. I’ll 3D print a dock if I have to, but if this does well, I’m sure Lenovo will come out with their own. Perfect travel computer. Better than a laptop. Smaller. Lighter. More portable. As a bonus it plays modern games half way decently (only need 60fps for single player games I’d be playing on a plane or in a hotel room anyway).

[@victor1882]

There ARE features unlocked by detaching the controllers, mainly controller gyro. You can use them in emulators on Linux, and emulate a Wii Remote + Nunchuck for example!

[@stewilkins3898]

l've been using my Legion Go as an ultra portable PC first & foremost rather than a dedicated handheld gaming system, find this brilliant when on the go to do work etc using a portable Bluetooth keyboard & mouse. At home I have it plugged in running at 30 watts using a Xbox controller rather than the detectable controllers on my coffee table when gaming, I find this much more comfortable than trying to play it handheld due to it's size. The Nintendo Switch is my dedicated handheld console of choice.

[@mikeymo9363]

Bought a steamdeck a few months ago (oled) and thought it was fantastic. Bought a legion go in February and haven't touched the oled since

[@hairnation68]

It’s awesome not sure what you’re doing because it works great. Don’t need VRR

[@timbisel4600]

No one looking for a handheld is looking for a laptop, seriously guys what the fuck are you doing.

[@mattparsons8598]

Appreciate this review, I'm currently trying to decide between The Go / Ally / Deck right now to go along side my 4080 desktop.

[@Innocuils]

I have a SteamDeck and a LeGo...I have not touched the SteamDeck since I got the LeGo.

[@oxygen026]

Got all 3 of them second hand. Stayed with legion go with hopes that the software gets better. It also replaces my ipad mini for basic stuff like netflix etc. The fps mode is actually great for games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 which does not have any good support for aiming with joystick. Software is trashy, but getting better with some beta releases

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

if you have a desktop get the OLED SteamDeck. The Deck is pickup and play, and suspend and resume works properly...unlike the other two. The Ally and Legion GO are laptops without mouse and keyboard thanks to Windows. I got so pissed off with the Windows experience on my Ally I put a SteamOS clone on it. That has made it much more usable as a handheld games console vs computer. However battery life is no where near as good on Ally as the OLED deck which I also own. Same game at 12W TDP and same settings my Deck runs for about 3.5 hrs at 45fps and my Ally gets about 2.25 hrs at 30fps. I double checked last night. Deck has better perf and battery life at lower TDPs where you get better battery life🤷. The Ally will give you more at 18W which is the sweet spot perf wise BUT battery life nose dives.

[@jas0x139]

I have an Steam Deck OLED and it's been an amazing device. Having dual trackpads allows you to create radial menus for in game commands which is amazing. Also Steam input makes it easy to play a lot of older games that don't have controller support. Since I also have a PC, games that may struggle on it I just stream to it using remote play. Nice laying in bed playing a heavily modded Skyrim.

[@darth_dunedain106]

@@jas0x139 Wait so you can have your PC just stream the games to your Deck? Could you have it running at Max Settings this way?

[@GaLvAnIzE2142]

I think both Controller shell and Dock not being made by Lenovo are due to preventing patent issues with Nintendo.

[@Drunken_Horse]

Timing of this is perfect. Been trying to decide between this steam deck oled and the asus (though the sd card issue is ruling out the ally

[@Kasper0822]

I wouldn't have been upset about the SD card if i didn't buy one before the issue was known. Honestly 2TB ssd is the way to go if you do get the ally. Have no complaints besides that.

[@redring4083]

The fact that it is Asus alone is the reason why the Ally should be ruled out.

[@swshredder1313]

I have both, the ally for myself as my laptop replacement, and the steamdeck oled for my wife. Overall the Steam deck is great for just flat out enjoying games vs the ally being a full on laptop and switch replacement.

[@Innocuils]

I have the SteamDeck and the LeGo. Ever since I got the LeGo, I haven't used the SteamDeck. The bigger screen and detachable controllers are extremely useful to me.

[@crestofhonor2349]

Ultimately the choice is do you want to play multiplayer games or not. Ally and deck are some of my favorite handhelds

[@bradb3527]

I came across the desire for a handheld gaming device this year. Legion Go wasn't on my option list due to it's size and bulkiness. I tossed for over a month between Steam Deck and Ally. Figuring out how my gaming, preferred games, and current library could be played while mobile, and how they could be played from my norm. Lots of time spent weighing the cost and use case to find if it was worth it to me. I went with the Steam Deck, due to its user-friendliness as Valve has put a lot of effort in the OS and UI. Didn't want to deal with the perceived hassle of Windows 11 on a device that it ultimately wasn't designed for. Ended up spending higher dollars on it than I was originally planning because I got the OLED Steam Deck. Couldn't bring myself to buy anything less on the sole basis that the OLED touch screen is far more responsive and not laggy than the LCD is. I love it!! Use my Deck FAR more than I thought I would!

[@rendonwade1130]

Did a great job Phil! If you missed it you can change the legion space button on it now. Can turn it to the top buttons are "start" and "share"

[@NathanMillerVisuals]

I love using my steam deck for travel. I picked it up before these windows handhelds were available and it’s great for flights. Essentially every steam game I own that I can’t carve out time for on my desktop works great. The ever evolving updates are sick. And now steam basically auto transferring updates and downloads from my desktop to my steam deck?? So awesome!

[@CaringBubbles]

This add was sponsored by asus 😂

[@GBLecci]

I like the bigger screen on Legion, but I hate the user experience on their embedded app. I got a Ally and returned it because I still like the SteamDeck better. I hope Microsoft will get a better handheld experience on the windows. The windows based ones are quite finicky to work with. This is the reason I kept the SteamDeck to be fair. I think what is most important in all this, is that we have multiple options and with the companies fighting each other, we get the discounts. This is great to see.

[@WaldekA-el3gu]

You know that you can install steamOS on legion right ?

[@fearsomebunny]

Been using a PC for 40+ years and I'd like to say Legion Go is the device I've been waiting for all my life. Travel size PC easily upgradable to 2TB plus micro SD that is designed to play games as well? Store the controller, pack a folding keyboard and adventure awaits! Throw all my videos/games on it. It's perfect for those of us who wants to simplify and travel light. But yes, you be that purist and have a specific device for every imaginable scenario. I feel your burden...

[@rippinraven777]

The Legion is a beast it has only been out for 5 months! The Legion go is the king

[@Ash-Lad]

I think there's one important keyword when it comes to the Legion Go: Flexibility. It allows you to play as a normal handheld, as a table setup with wireless controllers and hooked up to a TV/monitor, also with wireless controllers. The fact that it has windows also allows you to connect more or less any peripherals you would like, and play it as more of a traditional PC with keyboard and mouse, or just hook up whatever bluetooth-controllers you might have laying around to play splitscreen multiplayer. The fact that it has two USB-C ports, one on the top and one on the bottom, also allows you to insert the charger or dock/dongle on whatever end might fit better in your environment. Maybe you're playing handheld and prefer having the charger hanging off the bottom, or maybe you've set it up with the kickstand and need to use the top one because the bottom is blocked? The FPS mode is also yet another addition for more flexibility. Don't have a mouse and keyboard around but still want to play your favourite mouse and keyboard games? Just make some keybinds for the controller, turn on FPS-mode and have at it! There's just so many ways to use this device, and like Phil said, it's a great fit for anyone willing to tinker a bit. It's by no means perfect, but I would never under any circumstance say that any added feature that adds flexibility is a wasted feature.

[@rphntw1n]

Jay looks weird these days

[@ethanvalentine4299]

As some one with a Oled Steam deck a decent gaming PC and also an Oled Switch i love them all for different reasons.. Switch for nintendo exclusives. PC is connected to a TV for media as well as used for games that i prefer sitting at a desk to play like Apex legends. Steam deck literally for everything else... But the main reason i wouldn't even consider either of these handhelds is because the battery life... they are similar when compared to the OG led steam deck even though it still has an edge over them the OLED deck is so much better when i upgraded to the OLED i stopped checking my battery every 15-20 min because it just lasts like legit 2hrs min in cyberpunk and the OLED screen looks amazing even at lower refresh rates... i feel like most of the handheld market is going to have a hard time competing with valve for a few years and then we will see a new Deck and they will all scramble to keep up all over again...

[@V7imnida]

How much did you get paid to shit on it?

[@alaeriia01]

1:07 skip the ad

[@Soddus.]

god i hate that advert so much its sooooo cringe

[@EternalChampion435]

Phil coming in clutch! We want more videos with Phil!!

[@Soddus.]

no we dont!!!

[@86huMAN23]

I love the legion more than all of them. Sent my steam deck back as soon as the legion dropped and have not regretted it at all. Its still fun and and very powerful til this day. And ive had it since it first dropped to the public

[@SubliminalSlip]

I don't understand why his biggest gripe was to start and select buttons in the wrong spot, but you can totally remap/swapthem so I don't understand why he made a big issue about it. It's right in the controller options menu.

[@gottahavitvt]

You couldn't until this week with stock firmware and most people won't know how to do it or even know to look. I have my gripes with this review, but I think the biggest thing most people don't understand(or don't want to) is these things need to be reviewed as they will be used by %90+ of the people buying them, not what they CAN do if you spend a week tinkering(which i think he called out).

[@devilshermannmatern6380]

I love my Lenovo LeGo. When I travel its way more convinient to carry around than a laptop. Games run much better than I exspected to be honest. The screen has amazing sharpness for movies. When taking the controllers off and connecting a bluetooth keyboard its even a good looking small pc to use in a conference. It did what I bought it for: replacing my laptop.

[@MSDGAMEZ]

Ive had a Legion Go for 3 months now. I stopped using my Steam Deck since ive had it. Its awesome

[@devilmaycry57]

I was between this and Steam Deck, but I'm glad I went SD. Steam OS and it's integration with the console itself/controls shouldn't be understated, and it really does a great job for it's price point. Track pads should be a requirement for these things as well

[@JsmashTech]

I got a PC 3700x/3080, a ROG Ally, a GPD win4 (7840u version), Switch, and a Odin 2. I got all avenues ready to play for different use cases. also great video love that you guys are getting into or starting to make vids on Handheld PCs was waiting to see if you guys would. great work phil and looking forward to more videos!

[@ZackSNetwork]

Your 3080 is CPU bottlenecked my boy. I say upgrade it to a 5800x3d and sell the 3700x.

[@JsmashTech]

@@ZackSNetwork I thought about it but then I’d have to update the Bios then take off the cooler and put the new one in and I’m gonna make a NEW PC soon anyway although it would raise the value of the PC abit when I sell this. But if i end up selling it to my friend for cheaper I’ll just let him do it.

[@HeinSmit1]

@@JsmashTech The 3700x was bottlenecking me even at 4K, but went full upgrade to a 7800X3D. Hogwarts saw a ridiculous jump in performance along with Spider-Man

[@danhex]

The updates allow all the buttons to remap

[@blockbertus]

Title is lying again. This video is sponsored, just not by Lenovo.

[@Dracossaint]

The context strongly implies that they're talking about a review for the Lenovo legion go, that isn't sponsored.... Come on man. It's semantics

[@tylernelson5115]

Stop being a bum

[@Nunya58294]

Don't kill the fun!

[@snowthearcticfox1]

Lmao.

[@OGruurd]

You are not fun at parties, thats for sure

[@bristol1687]

I love my Steam Deck OLED. The screen is amazing and it runs smooth as butter. I knew I wanted a Steam Deck OLED and did not cross shop it all, but a Phil-parison between the three would be interesting.

[@venomr6rider]

The non vrr is a no go for me...

[@VenomusDragon-gx8xt]

Lol, it's powerful enough that it's not an issue, but do you I guess. Most games are going to run either 60 or 30 on it.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@VenomusDragon-gx8xt It is an issue. I've used the Go and screen tearing is annoying

[@VenomusDragon-gx8xt]

@crestofhonor2349 then you are setting the settings way to high, I don't have any on mine. It's a portable gaming computer, not a gaming laptop. Low to medium is all your going to get with any real performance.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@VenomusDragon-gx8xt not really. My eyes just tend to notice poor frame pacing

[@VenomusDragon-gx8xt]

@crestofhonor2349 that's a symptom of setting your shit to high.

[@therelaxationroom3033]

100 dollars less, but no sd card issues, larger screen and another usb c port along with a track pad. I would say the 100 dollars isnt the big a deal with those trade offs, just depends on what you prefer. I have both by the way along with a steam deck, lately been prefer my go over both of them.

[@jonhall3688]

Funny, there's been a long running issue with the micro SD card reader that Lenovo themselves have long admitted. I rarely use mine, but on all the Gos I've tried they all have the stutter issue. It's not particularly hard to find either.

[@therelaxationroom3033]

@@jonhall3688 weird I’ve never encountered that issue on mine, run a 1TB sandisk card. Have yet to have the issues you’re talking about. Not to say they don’t exist, but they just don’t on mine.

[@jonhall3688]

Don't take my word for it, the Lenovo staff in the forums already outlined several posts on the issue including a Beta driver update. This didn't work so they never released it to the online support site, where you would normally find the driver updates. Feel free to search Ben Myers (the Lenovo manager) posts on the micro SD card reader, if you want to find out more.

[@therelaxationroom3033]

@@jonhall3688 I’m not denying there might be an issue for some, but like I said I’ve never experienced any issues with my device. I have 500gb worth of games on my 1TB card and it runs fine.

[@NorthsideChamps16]

The Legion Go is far from disappointing. This channel however, gets increasingly more disappointing with each video.

[@luck9837]

Detaching the controllers gives you the ability to use it as a tablet!!

[@Lambsharkxo]

Love Phil's laugh lol great vid

[@cefrio]

This video is disappointing, i own the Go and its a beast, after learning the settings and balancing and adding the app Lossless scaling you will have a blast using this device

[@HadesRS4]

Horrible review 😂😂

[@jasonh4534]

I like the LGo, its not perfect, but the larger screen was a necessity for my use. I run games at the 16 : 10 equivalent of 1080 or 720, depending on the game and how well it is running. On these small displays, just using vsync and shooting for 50-60fps is perfectly acceptable. I change the refresh rate from 144 to 60, and leave it there, and let the game's vsync handle the rest. And I can even handle 30+fps on it, as long as it is solidly no lower than 30fps during the more demanding areas of the game.

[@mix3k818]

And let me guess, the controllers do not have an accelerometer (gyro not counting)?

[@jesusbarrera6916]

all 3 sections have GYRO but software limits them for the moment.... next mayor update should address according to Ben in the LENOVO forums

[@jrgenvik-strandli840]

As a tinkerer, I really want this as a handheld with omph.. Nice review, youre sounding honest. Wished you covered more use [noise, heat, muscle cramps..] and use cases like replacing tablet, actual third party accessories, and more about docking [support for a tv via hdmi or displayport over usb-c is, as you say, a__]. Overall, good job👍

[@tj_2701]

So the SoC isn't actually chonkier, only the detachable controllers are? So the Screen an actual PC are not actually thicker....

[@xenthoxin]

I'm happy with the steam deck Oled (also have switch oled, and decent pc), but I don't see how a usb c port on top and bottom is weird, that's a great convenience, even if it's just not wanting to plug into the top and bend a cable around/hanging arched out the top. More ergonomic to have the controllers fused together when detached? How? You put it in table top mode, lean back comfortably and hold the controllers separately, that's so much more comfy. Only reason I would want the controllers to have a "dummy" in the middle is maybe if it was a battery pack.

[@quafee]

The point of the detachable controllers is FPS mode. You kept saying you don’t know why it’s an option to detach.

[@douglascoburn]

Very interested in this with SteamOS 🤔

[@winterhearted6780]

I'm sticking with my Switch OLED + gaming PC. Windows 11 handhelds made a huge progress, but they are still "pick this or that compromise" devices. I would say let's wait a year or two.

[@heisseething]

You can change the start and select buttons with one click in the settings, which I recommend. But I agree it should be like that by default lol