This Prototype fixes a major issue!

Remember when I ditched the direct die block from EKWB due to a defect? Well Singularity Computers sent me their prototype which solves multiple issues with modern direct die cooling solutions!
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[@bigriff9946]

i think temperature testing prototypes is a good idea tbh, if results are good then great, if theyre bad then tell them where they need to improve, dont hold it against them because its a prototype, just whatever makes their final product better. constructive feedback is always good

[@fireztonez-teamepixcraft3993]

Thank you, this was exactly what I was thinking. What's the point of sending a prototype if you don't do the test to really see if it performs right? It is in fact the best time to do the temperature testing and said this might need to be improved. If the results are great, then perfect, if the results are bad, then they know they have to improve something. Not testing the temperature is kinda like saying I download a game in beta, show the icon and menu, but don't play because the game is not final yet. They can't test with every single motherboard and CPU themselves, you have the chance to give them real feedback based on real test, with your material, so you should do it. If you don't want to do in public video this is your choice, but you should definitely test it.

[@akdragonpc473]

@@fireztonez-teamepixcraft3993 Yep, this is almost a pointless video without the temp testing.

[@Fender178]

I agree because if you temp test the prototype it will give the company valuable data to improve upon their design.

[@Broadpaw_Fox]

I think that's exactly what Jay will do, but because of how some people on the internet act, he's not going to share it outside the company. I would be shocked if they didn't send it with a request to check it against everything he could so they can find weak points and iterate/improve. Fitment, temps, installation, all of it - Jay has a lot of gear he can play with and they'd appreciate it I'm sure, so I have a feeling that's what'll happen - it just won't become a video be of trolls here in the comments. 😉

[@weez82]

Agreed. Hopefully Jay tests the temps. But I can also see why he doesn't want to. Jay please test it

[@OneCritWunder]

I feel like wherever there's a problem or issue Singularity Computers or der8auer are always there to solve it

[@Fatpumpumlovah2]

Wouldnt need solving if diversity hires actually learn to use a caliper.

[@killerhawks]

So check this product while my D-JAY promotes it.. DIRECT COOLING COOLING BABY!! SO COLD SO SO COLD..

[@raythe9264]

that is how they make their living. That's like thinking its peculiar how fire fighters show up to burning buildings.

[@kamarulazizi90]

@@raythe9264 then why intel makes hot, difficult to mount cpu? Thats their job. According to your logic..

[@nathanhamman418]

@@kamarulazizi90 They cut corners because they're going to sell them anyway.

[@zhardy323]

i love when companies are willing to show off their products before the final design. shows immense trust in their own work and with their customers

[@mikekuschka998]

My vote is to keep the small block. Bigger is not always better. Singularity, please keep the small block.

[@McNunkyNutz]

I love how much you're focusing on these unique parts amd ideas for builds. Hella fun to watch!! Appreciate you and the team sir!

[@anthonyblacker8471]

This is actually really great to see. I'm happy to see how this progresses and am really glad you got your hands on a prototype to just 'check out' why not?

[@sergentboucherie]

When screwing like that you should start by turning each screw backward until you feel a little click, then you start turning the screws in an X pattern turning them equally. You can mark the screw with something like a sharpie to make it easier to see how much you turned it. Steve had a video where one of his team member explained how to do it.

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Indeed. Just like the head of a motorblock.

[@sergentboucherie]

@@patricktrakzel9657 head of a motorblock, is that Motörhead?

[@patricktrakzel9657]

@@sergentboucherie Of course! And the alternator and the battery AC/DC.

[@OmegaBlack999]

Nice! I'm looking forward to seeing the final revision

[@lxc647]

something about prototypes and auctions brought me here.

[@Yewtewba]

And that's why I came here and sorted comments by new

[@daquarius1222]

2 years later at least, and this add from Ifixit still gets me everytime!! ;) Can't skip that masterpiece!

[@NicoBolaz]

I cannot stress how much I love the amount of care and attention to detail expressed when handling a prototype. He didn’t shit over them for trying something new and didn’t feel safe temperature testing or at least showing temps on something so early. Bravo Jay

[@noidont8149]

I feel like the size of the block would really shine in sff and micro builds

[@rasmusvedel]

What I was thinking too. There’s so many bigger blocks out there - appreciate the little ones, Jay!

[@glebglub]

@@rasmusvedel personally I think the smaller ones are better. gotta get airflow to those VRMs somehow! only time a big one would be preferable would be a motherboard specific monoblock so those VRMs get actively cooled

[@Broadpaw_Fox]

As someone with a SFF Phanteks case, I wholeheartedly agree!! Bigger is not always better, and I rather like the small size of this.

[@XFrizzleFryX]

I think there is a smaller one that keeps the stock ILM and essentially replaces the stock IHS with the cold plate on the block, and then you attach the top half of the block after mounting the bottom.

[@zorbakaput8537]

CPU blocks that are larger are completely unnecessary on current gen. Luckily I have a few EK legacy water blocks they are tiny and still work from AM4 to 5 and the other across to LGA1700. Today's mobos are so overpowered in VRMs etc full cover water blocks are to my mind a complete waste of money. Wasn't the way up to X299 but now they are a waste.

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

If I was in the position to do an AM5 or newer Intel build with a de-lidded cpu, I would _LOVE_ this! This prototype's size and compatibility is perfect!

[@LiLBitsDK]

uhm... the AMD chip was AM5? you didn't notice there was no pins on the CPU?

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

@@LiLBitsDK I did say am5. 🥴

[@123bigmam]

The iFixit ad is still fun to watch after all this time. Cant stop telling you guys how great it is.

[@OmegaSimPilot]

You have to admit, there is something mesmerizingly beautiful about the AM5 LGA pins...like, a perfectly mowed baseball outfield lol

[@shannonrhoads7099]

The iFixIt ad is still the best part of Jayz videos. IFIXIT! EXPLOSIONS!

[@TheRealWoofer]

I honestly think it looks classy af on those boards, man. No need for a massive clunky ass cooler when you’re just gonna have pipes sticking out of it anyways

[@CKlegion7272]

Can't wait for a full test. Greetings from Netherland

[@joshwilliams8863]

That iFixIt is always an ad that I'll never skip. If you have to do a sponsored ad, this is how you do it with style!

[@user-dv7hq2rh4g]

Bro please, don't disappoint me. You're an enthusiast. Use liquid metal when you go check out the performance. It's a must in this kind of application.

[@Simon_Denmark]

This is the comment I was looking for. Jay just amazes me every time.

[@BenjaminSodos]

Thanks for the dead pixel scare @9:06 hahaha

[@Sinister_BOONe]

I love the Gordon Freeman crowbar, mounted on the pegboard in the background. 🤘😜🤘

[@LetsGetTechy]

The innuendos in this video were superb. 🤣

[@aleksanderkrimsky5968]

Whatever you do, don't give it to Linus Tech Tips.

[@unclehowdy409]

I'll give Jay credit atleast he doesn't auction off the prototypes he gets

[@The_Seal77]

I really love this kind of content, just awesome

[@acen486]

Always excited for a j2c video day

[@joshrodgers9366]

The I fix it add is hands down the best add of any tech channel on KZbin

[@LFC4LIFEJEDI]

Great Video as aways, loving your style

[@conno7356]

Just what I needed on a car ride!

[@peelzboyplays6089]

I quote the IFixIt commercial at work almost daily 😂

[@mikehensley78]

Before you remove the latch from the socket on the AMD board you should install the CPU to protectify the pins. :)

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

Same thing with intel motherboards regarding 12th and 13th gen

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Always protect the pins. One slip of a finger, or your glasses falling on the socket is enough to bent the pins. I have seen it happen. Can save you hours of work bending back pins.

[@aaronmcneal1698]

Okay, now that I watched the entire video, I can't wait for the thermal testing.

[@xXZombieHunter0802Xx]

I saw prototype and couldn't resist

[@einarcgulbrandsen7177]

Looks great.

[@riccochet704]

the fins on that block are HUGE. DAMN!

[@Road2Rally]

When I move to am5 next year this is gonna be my go to. I never expected direct die to come as far as it has into the base consumer market. SWEEEETTTTT

[@NicoBolaz]

Finally, someone who knows how to treat prototypes

[@Power-Wiesel]

❤

[@mr.guillotine3766]

I like the color scheme for your screwdriver. Good choice, sir, good choice!

[@gregorydobson4307]

Interesting content as always. I just wondered if sometimes the uneven spread is with an issue with the cpu block faces not being parallel to each other rather than the cooling block face. ! Dunno, maybe a future video. 😊

[@ssephi]

Jayz Ifixit ads are the best Ifixit ads

[@skrtified5773]

That iFixIt sponsor single handedly made me buy a whole pallets worth. 11/10 advertisement

[@itsdeonlol]

Cool block!

[@GeneralAntiChrist]

Kinda dig the understated look of the block. With all the acrylic it could very well really pop when it’s lit.

[@altus199]

So I would suggest you get a torque screw driver and ask someone like Derbauer what the torque values are. And as an engineer please use a cross pattern when tighting. Keep up the the good work gents. After Jayz opp and health issues have been resolved - at least I hope it is, but since then the positive energy back in the vids. Great work fellars!

[@DerangedCoconut808]

with the block being smaller than most other blocks, you guys could 3d print some cosmetic frame to cover the gap from the old retention bracket or get a machined acrylic to extend the diffusion of the LEDs to be bigger. So many customization now that you guys have that gap. Maybe that was singularity's goal?

[@JGStonedRaider]

Danger Den is a name I haven't heard in a long while. Damn Jay! Still have my old DD pump around somewhere...

[@philipp1412]

to be very honest, I'm thinking of buying an ifixit just because the way you advertise it is awesome. Your sponsor should pay you more^^

[@TheRealDavil]

Really wanted to see temp tests

[@Pay-tatochip]

Bruh i love the ifix it sponsors so much

[@MikeHarris1984]

I have my 13900k with a fractal 360 aio. Works good. But definitely heats up fast under stress. The debauer frame and kryonaugh thermal grease helped big time. Thinking of de lidding and going full custom hard line with my 4070 ti and 13900k under the loop with a 360 and a 240 rad

[@Eric_Fate]

That is a damn clever design.

[@bothellkenmore]

Phil: "Maybe not over the socket" as he's been filming Jay do stuff with exposed sockets for over an hour.

[@nosliwec]

There is a part I have been looking at for a SFF build, but can't seem to find many reviews and no videos on. Maybe you can look at it, Jay. It's a Bykski Universal Distro Plate which comes in 360, 240 and 120mm sizes.

[@Grue_ni]

What i find absolutely awesome is that this Block also has UV LEDs inside. I think this should be standard.

[@stephenbeyer4315]

As an Aussie, Go Singularity. I might have to go check them out.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

now i kinda want Singularity to sell the optional block cover that is the size of an Air Cooler, just for the meme bonus points if it's a JayzTwoCents collab product

[@thabed007]

yep, every time i see that sponsor here, i keep thinking that ifixit should hire you as their mascot and also buy that segment off of you if they ever plan on making tv ads!! It's still my favorite and also the only one i don't skip on the tube, it still makes me smile, it sound like an old wrestler from the 80s or 90s in a tv ad!!! 😅🙃

[@tinymag4363]

Jay... it makes my eye twitch every time I see you lock stuff down, not using a cross-radial pattern... lol. The engineer in me tells me it doesn't actually make enough difference to mean a difference... but the car/aviation maintainer in me just sits there with a twitching eye saying "that's not the goodest way to do that..."

[@murmur3966]

Hello Hello From Canada!!! Jay you should totally test now and after they send a finished retail product. They might need some feedback about installing it in a loop and how it performs now, may cause them to increase the cool plate size or something like that. Great episode guys. 🤘😁👍

[@alexmills1329]

Looking forward to thermal tests on this. Especially with that x3D chip since the contact was a little more suspect on it.

[@chrisvandijk99]

looks fine ek keep it simple

[@mste456]

good old dangerden days, man that takes me back

[@milosmarinkovic1572]

It would be nice if you do temp test now with prototipe and after with final revision product, just to compare how much or did it got better. Great video thy for sharing this interesting content.

[@williammathies2998]

Thanks!

[@meisterziege]

Hey Jay, big fan of your videos. This one came to my attention when you mentioned the mounting issues with the EKWB. I have one EKWB for the 4080TUF that I have remounted several times because my temps are way too high for a custom loop(2 360mm rads, one even with push/pull fans). I have to remove the side panel to keep the gpu below 58C at 100% usage and 350W TDP. Have you heard any issues related to those ones?

[@luishiji]

As you said, I personally dont like full acrylic blocks, btw, It looks pretty functional, and Im actually waiting for a am5 delid block option, that way I can stop using the amd hooks mount. Hope this blocks come out as sooner as possible

[@18266609]

this needs to be revisited

[@Barrett_Fodder]

We definitely need to see the prototype temp testing. Not to shame or blast the company, but rather to provide insight into what their initial hack looks like and possible a revisit if there is a significant redesign or adjustment later on. Test them temps brother! Ohhh yeah!!!!

[@Rashimotosan]

Ek updated their block and die guard. You need to get the updated one Jay

[@terrytaylor2104]

Jay thanks for the cool video! I don't know how efficient that UV light is but may in your follow up video can you touch everyone on the benefits of a UV light in a fluid based system. I wish more companies would make stuff like that. Lol this is coming from a guy who hasn't had a PC in over 10 years, my last build was a DDR2 gaming rig I built when NCIX still existed. Keep up the awesome work you show us.

[@Chipsaru]

no real benefits from UV, not powerful enough, not the right wavelength, not enough exposure, tubing would block a lot of UV, it will damage plastics over time

[@terrytaylor2104]

I see your point as acrylic is an organic compound. As I said I wouldn't be sure the efficiency of the light unit, the location of the light source couldn't be worse lol. Maybe in the future a solution could be considered for the lighting location, not to mention protection of our eyes.

[@xargon1234]

i have a der8auer am5 block coming in i like how he did his better no chance of cracking the die. and 25 degree drop is nothing to sneeze at

[@mardymarvin8441]

all the years of watching these types of things and building computers I was always told to tighten the screws in a diagonal pattern for the CPU coolers not one side at a time

[@StangMan04]

Maybe a review of the Mycro Direct-Die block from Debauer? Waiting for stock to order one myself.

[@aaronmcneal1698]

Danger Din was the goat back in the day. This is going to be the goat once in production

[@mattdillion4999]

On the motherboard situation. I as a truck driver run CB radios and sometimes when installing CB radios. If the negative contacts the positive it will deaden the radio or if you just flat hook the wires up in the wrong order. Yes, I know it's only two wires. Go figure. But when this happens you can take the CB and directly connected to the battery. Just striking it or arcing it on the battery and it will bring a dead CB back to life. So it's probably the same thing you experience with the motherboard in some form of fashion. I believe somebody told me it reverses the polarities in the electricity.

[@rockdem0n]

Oh god, Jay mentioned the older bare copper block and I have wanted to do an all copper water loop forever but it's always out of my budget.

[@RVecc]

Danger Den! THERE's a name i haven't seen or heard in a minute!

[@Jevla.]

Hey, You should do a comparisson between the prototype and when it is full released

[@synapticbit]

The leftover mounting pieces could allow you to mount some sort of VRM cooling option…

[@racefan2k3]

Blue tape on the back plate works well........holds fine while you're putting on the bracket and doesn't leave residue.

[@Zinkhal1]

16:14 well i swapped the cooler from my ryzen 5 5600x and it was chilling in the socket ... such a good boy .. ;D

[@richiskinner9810]

This ad is still my absolute favorite XD

[@ScottJWaldron]

9:25 Danger Den is a name I haven't head in a while! Pretty sure the one time I did water cooling the block was from them. Think it was an Athlon XP build. That was as series of CPU that didn't use a heat spreader. I ended up chipping the edge of the die but it continued to work fine.

[@Subaru_God]

Looks like a great product

[@joshuafutrell5956]

this may be something specific with my computer, but whats with the dead pixel in some of your shots? might be my rig but im curious. (example at 13:15, dead pixel spot is on jayz shoulder, always in a fixed location, fullscreen or no)

[@jasonnorman3223]

I love the size and really hope it is not stupid pricey

[@OmegaSimPilot]

And yep, had to RMA my Corsair H150i AIO and POP, out came my AM4 R7 5800X with the pump...always a good time!

[@outlet6989]

Hi Jay. Singularity Computers, "This is a prototype, but we will not test it here. That's why we are going to send it to JayzTwoCents and let him do that for us."

[@MercenaryTau]

I see a lot of posts wanting to test it, but don't forget, there's a lot of dense people that wont be able to comprehend that a prototype is a work in progress. While it's definitely beneficial to test it, the problem is sharing the results publicly.

[@OrlyOnofre]

hey jay looking for a decent cleaning kit. i12900K with 360mm AIO cooling. Just want a recommendation for a reliable and tested product.

[@Alpha_2-4]

I just come here for the "iFixiiiit"💥💥 now xD

[@macinator23]

Since this block has UV lighting is there any chance you would do a UV light build? I know EK makes some UV reactive coolants.

[@BrokenPineapple]

"Lets take it off and see how well it spread." Jay

[@The_Slavstralian]

Bottom out screws like you said will eliminate the guess work of flat applications. Side note with the extra exposed screw holes on the AMD board where you said there could be a cover. Its an opportunity for manufacturer specific covers with logos on them... OR 3d printing custom design ones which could be freaking amazing

[@clintonbothma3285]

A uv reactive cover would be cool with the uv light on the block hehe

[@Shalmaneser1]

Love the UFO sized air cooler on the left.

[@Jurban5]

That ifixit ad reminded me of the counter strike for kids parody video 😂

[@Jjanssoni]

Would be very nice to see temperature testing👌

[@derrickm9808]

Really enjoy how you do your videos Jay but I would love to see some air cooled content

[@C64TV]

Amen to that! You'd think water cooling was the be-all and end-all of PC builds on this channel! Love most of the content here, but as soon as I hear the words "water" and "cooling" I have to turn off.

[@Crunkmaster]

bro jay is literally one of THE watercooling guys; that's like going to a burger shop and asking for a donut lol

[@jritechnology]

I have a torque screwdriver Jay....I'll be at Micro Center tomorrow buying my case and I'll bring it just in case you happen to be there.