JCB 3C and John Deere 3350

[@ginggur17]

Ya can’t beat doing a complete service, peace of mind is worth millions. Omg at the sump plug!

[@RustyGlovebox]

Can't turn a blind eye on metal in the oil. Can only get worst. You will be much happier going through it to see what is failing.

[@LordMuck]

Going to be interesting to see whats what.

[@ginggur17]

Top bloke, settled, down to earth and says as it is.

[@ronaaserude8225]

love your comments about Tim the loaderman! I really enjoy the sense of community you strive for. Regarding that rusted light mounting bolt, try drilling the head off first with a larger size bit and once the housing is removed you have a good place to start drilling the remnants out...

[@LordMuck]

Cheers Ron ! To be honest I'm not looking to keep the shroud or screw so I'll just slice it off and fit new ones.

[@garethifan1034]

I was always amazed at the sheer pull and lugging ability of the 4/98 engine - designed to power a tractor at 2.5 - 3 Tonne, yet did allright powering a 3C at 7.5 tonne..looks like that sump plug is the justification for a nice new yellow power unit. Your vids on the 3C rebuild have me glued!

[@jimmymurphy7173]

you can rebuild the engine in a power train without removing it .unless you have a problem with the crank shaft .the pistons and liners will come up from the bottom. very easy engine to work on .I had a power train for eight years. probably one of the best diggers jcb ever made. keep up the good work..

[@LordMuck]

Yep that's right Jimmy and I want to show a 3CII and a 3C Powertrain to demonstrate just how much room one has to work on it compared to the other. However, I want to pull the engine so I can have it fully rebuilt and having the crane on the MJ makes that easy enough.

[@tigerspook1]

An old trick my grandad showed me, with getting a stubborn cross-head screw, was to put a piece of an elastic band under the screwdriver tip, press and turn,.... So I have found this strange little trick has work 95% of the time, haven't a clue how or why it works but it does lol... You mentioned someone called 'Cotton-top" in this vlog, what has happened to him may I ask ? Bless Trish in Devon..

[@LordMuck]

Never heard that but I am going to try it ! Cotontop3 is a KZbinr. He's taking a few days off from filming as he has lots going on currently. He has been such a big help and supporter of my channel (as has the likes of Loggerwade, Rustyglovebox, Wyattoneable and so many many others) but Tim has done a lot to encourage me to keep uploading footage and for that I will always show him my support.

[@tigerspook1]

Thank you for explaining that....... Love that vlog name 'Rustyglovebox", made me laugh......

[@LordMuck]

No worries, check him out ! Rusty does some wonderful restorations and tinkering about with stuff, always something different. He's a genuinely great guy.

[@antlane365]

If your lifting the JCB engine out, you have to take the top bell housing off and disconnect split pins on the shaft into the clutch, you may already know this, I found out after disconnecting everything on a Leyland in a scrapyard and the engine still wouldn’t come out.

[@LordMuck]

No, mines a Powertrain ! But yes, with the manual box you are correct. It was a clever design that allowed you to change the clutch without splitting the unit. I'll video it all Ant so you can see the differences.

[@antlane365]

If only more other stuff was like that.

[@marvinwinter8174]

If it wasn't for Cotontop3 , I would never of known about you ! Both of you have excellent channels and I enjoy watching both! As for others not caring , that is being disrespctful to both you and those whom you call friends , that is my opinion about the issue you mentioned in your other video and this one. PLEASE keep up the good video's you have been producing !.

[@LordMuck]

Thanks Marvin. I want people to enjoy, learn and share when they come here.

[@nigelmchugh5541]

Swarf could be from the balancer shaft unit gears. If your lucky!

[@LordMuck]

I don't think it's going to be that simple....! But yes, they are known to have issues with the balancer unit. That might be part of many other issues with this lump.

[@lesthompson5907]

I'm quires is that a wood burning stove behind you , in your shed dos it run well ?

[@paullee4033]

Another good video i see somebody else commented on left hand drills i wish I had a set when I worked on tractors another thing when you go to main dealers for spares allways remember you are in the driving allways ask for discount and if you are not in a rush ask them if you wait for the parts to come on a stock order they might give you more discount I am the same mind as you in thinking genuine parts are best

[@RobClarkeRacing]

came here from tim, glad i did. Cheers

[@dunc1958]

the 4 98 we had in our 3C was a brilliant starter and never gave problems, apart for a couple of oil leaks. A virtually identical engine fitted to an early 2 wheel drive loadall was a heap of trouble. The 3C was my best mate but the loadall a total pain.

[@ollievenni6983]

at least the oil wasn't too bad as when my brother changed the gear oil on a claas axion a bit of crown wheel that was a few inches long fell out.

[@LordMuck]

Ollie, if I'd had a bit of crown wheel drop out of the engine sump, I'd have shat a lung....

[@ollievenni6983]

Lord Muck ha ha well yes but you get the idea and I would be worried if you were draining the front diff on a 2wd digger anyway

[@LordMuck]

I know Ollie, yes you're right, lets hope things are okay once we have the sump off.

[@ollievenni6983]

Lord Muck yes lets hope so anyway nice video see you in the next one.

[@beefyman666]

Recently discovered your channel and enjoying what I've seen so far. Great to see some of the old machines getting some love and brought back to their former glory. Whereabouts in Suffolk are you? I was brought up in Bungay but since moved to Devon. Look arta ya self

[@LordMuck]

SUFFOLK ?!!!!!!! Wars have been started over less ! Norfolk originally dear boy. I rather like Bungay, had some good times there.

[@beefyman666]

Look out, border patrols about! Pretty sure I heard you say you were in Suffolk in a previous video! Got out of Bungay when I was 10. Still have family there but the place never really changes. 'tis a nice place though. Spent most of my teens and 20's in and around Great Yarmouth, 6 years of that on a farm inbetween Ormesby and Filby. I just call myself an East Anglian to save the wars :)

[@LordMuck]

Yes the 4455 video was in Suffolk. Who's farm were you on near Ormesby ?

[@beefyman666]

Whartons, Filby Lane Farm. Not a very big farm, only about 120 acres I think. Not sure what he runs now but had a MF675 and 3070 in fantastic condition back then (about 15 years ago). Lovely tractors they were.

[@LordMuck]

Yes I know the place. I know a mate of mine on here will also know it.

[@Gibson408]

Love the old tractors and diggers! Have you got any updates on how they both are at the moment?

[@LordMuck]

Engine rebuilt and ready to go in 3C and JD needing a bit of work on wings and cab interior then all done.

[@Gibson408]

Lord Muck ahh sounds like slow and steady progress! Always love videos on them both.

[@LordMuck]

I'm in no rush so they are not taking priority but when I want them finished they will be done overnight !

[@NorthEastOhio]

let's hope it doesn't become a money pit

[@LordMuck]

I'm sure it will be fine. If it became too expensive I would simply cut it up and turn it into log splitters (3C's make great log splitter donors)

[@NorthEastOhio]

logsplitter doners?

[@LordMuck]

Yes, 3C's have big hydraulic rams and obviously lots of spools and controls so you cut them up and use the bits to make powerful log splitters.

[@bachandefi]

I made the mistake of replacing my 3040 headlights with non genuine about 10 years ago but they soon went rusty inside. The old saying is often true - buy cheap, buy twice. I was at our local JD dealer the other day for a part and bought a 400ml spray tin of JD green paint for £8.61. Looked on ebay last night and non genuine is half as much on top again.

[@LordMuck]

Very true. I'll get genuine if available or quality replacements if not.

[@Rab93]

Hello muck, great videos on a lovely old machine, is there one for the engine going back into your 3c? The shavings on the sump plug are possibly from the machine having a high tally of hours to service intervals on her, In my experience there are 2 types of farmer the one who meets every service interval or the other who's machinery never sees new oil from leaving the factory.....I wonder if this is the case with your machine and this is running in shavings being that tolerances wouldn't have been as tight in those days on the old Leyland's?

[@Rab93]

Thanks and keep up the fantastic videos

[@LordMuck]

The engine is fully rebuilt Robert and sitting in the shed waiting to go in. The reason for the metal filings was because it was bolloxed ! I made the right decision to have it fully rebuilt so at least now we have a base line to move on from and keep her serviced.

[@Rab93]

Lord Muck that's good to hear, nice to see other people spending time keeping the old machines alive,thanks for the videos

[@dariantakieh1398]

Nice video mate. Shame about the engine but looking forward to see the overhaul. Keep up the good work 👍

[@LordMuck]

Cheers mate. I reckon a nice 6V-71 Detroit....

[@WilliamStevens007]

If she was totally rough I would have said a respray but from what I have seen a good polish to start with and go from there.

[@Hesston4860s]

William Stevens from what I've seen of it I think a good machine polish would make it nice. My 3050 on the other hand is gonna need some paint at some point.

[@LordMuck]

You around next week ?

[@Hesston4860s]

Lord Muck yeah I'll be about towards the end of the week.

[@donc81]

Could that steel on the mag plug be from the cam/followers? I wonder if the lobes could have been dry from sitting and on initial startup?

[@LordMuck]

Could be from anywhere Don but the engine isn't running how I want it to so out she comes !

[@thearkansashillbilly1776]

Looking good Brother!! Hope all is well. love!!

[@LordMuck]

Hey Tripper ! Hope all is good with you. I've got some parts arriving for my 10-10 so will fit those soon as they arrive !

[@thearkansashillbilly1776]

Awesome Brother. I bet she'll be up and running like in no time!!

[@LordMuck]

I'll do it as soon as time allows.

[@thearkansashillbilly1776]

Gave ya a shout out on my channel big dog!! Loving the channel!! Love!!

[@LordMuck]

Didn't know you had a channel ? I'll drop by and take a look buddy !

[@MalcOfLincoln]

Woops - not what you want to find Kurt. However.....on the upside, it'll stop you being bored (that's a joke mate) but it is also a video opportunity. So not all bad eh!

[@LordMuck]

If it needs doing, it needs doing and as I said, I like the Powertrain's so it will be good to have her up to full power.

[@MalcOfLincoln]

Well worth doing.....that'll outlast you.

[@Cotlandfarmer]

Good video, pitty about the engine on the 3c, but at least you have had a warning on the sump plug before something worse goes wrong, a stitch in time and all that. Keep up the good work. Cotlandfarmer

[@LordMuck]

Erm.... it's f*cked ! It won't be a lot of use as it is so it will be nice once it's done.

[@Cotlandfarmer]

Lord Muck oh dear, more than a stitch needed then, one of the pit falls of buying old stuff. my farther bought a orange fordson N on a sale at Bridgend, got it home it wouldn't start, got it going, then it over heated a.d cooked the magneto. He went to three ploughing matches and failed to finish the three. In the end and after a new magneto, inlet manifold, plug leads, plugs he managed to finish a ploughing match.

[@LordMuck]

We had the same with an E27N. Used to have to take the mag off, put it in the Rayburn for an hour, try again. In the end a new mag and it was the best starting Fordson we ever had.

[@yamyamrob4130]

great video brill demo on jcb chassis with cut out one helped explain what u meant about oil inside the chassis wouldn't have even known that was poss until u explained &showed it -guessing it quite easy get replacement parts for older jd models must be huge back catalogue in someone shed somewhere or do u have order direct from dealer -keep up good work n enjoy easter👍

[@LordMuck]

Glad it was made a bit clearer. Have a great Easter.

[@wyattoneable]

That's right, we can help each other.

[@LordMuck]

I think your channel is one of the greatest demonstrations of knowledge and experience coming together to solve problems.

[@wyattoneable]

Lord Muck Your too kind. I just play around.

[@ginggur17]

Adore the John Deere too. My era.

[@donc81]

It would be an interesting video to show some of your construction fleet

[@LordMuck]

Speaking to Billy the other week we are planning on getting some of the footage of the diggers floating on the pontoons.

[@mmccoy577]

I like your channel. I am subscribing.

[@LordMuck]

Thank you, I'm glad you like it.

[@jamesphelan1938]

Hi muck love the way u explain everything and are very clear when your explaining things have you any videos of the 3c power train iv recently bought one myself

[@LordMuck]

Cheers James, I shall be doing some more 3C stuff this winter

[@cynthiaherr9029]

Great vid Sir, I know the problem must be on the inside and when you find the source, How will you clean out the metal shaving's from the rest of it as not to prevent damage elsewhere ? Wished I could help..lol Take Care & Stay Safe

[@LordMuck]

Once the engine is out Cynthia, we will remove the head, the pistons and the crankshaft. All these components will be rinsed and blown through and then the oilways etc will be flushed with a cleaning fluid and blown through again. Once the engine is rebuilt, I will run it for a few hours before re-draining the oil and changing the filter again to ensure any remaining debris is caught. Have a Happy Easter !

[@cynthiaherr9029]

Wow didn't realize what's left to do,Thank's for the explanation Sir,will be interesting upcoming for sure..Take Care

[@NorthEastOhio]

what are your thoughts on John Deere backhoes?

[@TemeraireJimny]

so, essentially 2 restos ongoing simultaneously, with a KZbin channel to satisfy and a living to earn. I see a lot of hard work and long hours in your future. Good luck and remember one foot in front of the other and everything will get done. eventually.

[@w056007568]

I wouldn't want you to think I'm a gloom merchant but if the engine has been neglected from a service point of view then surely you must have some concerns the remainder of the machine particularly the back axle and transmission? I ask because if your into the engine for the repairs are you also into the other major components as well??

[@LordMuck]

When I looked at the machine originally Dan, she ran well and the transmission works fine (they basically work or they don't) The whole machine has not been knocked about too much for a 3C and she has been well greased (unlike many 3c's) The Leyland 4/98 was always a bit of a 'when' not 'if' engine and was even a pig for locking up, dropping valves etc after a few hundred hours when new. So it's not unexpected, the oil itself is not in bad shape (except for the bonus bits...) At the money I bought it for, I can do a fair bit to her and still be right considering it is one of the most sought after JCB models built.

[@3cx71]

a lefthand drillbit might just unscrew that screw you showed in the light shroud near the end of the vid.

[@LordMuck]

2 seconds with a cutting disc and it will be off. I'll get a new screw and won't be saving that one even if it comes out, they're past it.

[@catdieselpower193]

uhhg that's real ugly LM I sure hope it's something that's not a fortune to fix pard! but I'm sure glad I found your channel my freind!! you are a great fellow!! oh and I'm here thanks to John the chipper guy! ;-)

[@LordMuck]

A full rebuild isn't the end of the earth on one of these. John's a top guy. I need to catch up on his last few vids !

[@super6954]

Hi Kurt Thanks for the update, I'm kinda thinking Tims maybe having a health scare with his neck/ fitting in family time plus just getting tired of having a hard time making a living with the mills messing them round. ontop KZbin has cut any rewards from many channels, that maybe helped him a bit doing it and his trolls are the final straw. There are going to be a lot of channels we sub to go subscription only or just vanish one night. It's a shame he's got this problem and other than quit or disable comments there's no real answer, youtube don't seem to care about the abuse and dick heads. That sucks that you found a mechanics chia pet on that sump plug. I'm kinda thinking you might get a crappy surprise on the main hyd filter to. I just ordered a new old stock from Ebay U.S last night to do mine, I don't think they changed it when the old hyd pump died!. I've been told be careful with the torque converter seal into the shuttle. Some had a plate to unbolt the converter before taking the engine/trans out mine doesn't so it's easy to mess the seals up. Do you have an original operators hand book or want one I found another one online last night if you want it?, it could turn up if it's not gone. Painting the Deer's your choice but if I was as far in as you are it would make sense to do it now properly with that front end apart, than put it together/ then take it apart again to paint it or make a half assed job, where you can't paint it without using a fire hose or stirrup pump to get in places L.O.L. Oh by the way the Ford engine questions out there. Take care see ya next time. Robert

[@LordMuck]

Tim has much more in his life than KZbin - we are just lucky he has shared what he has with us. Seriously, KZbin is in trouble and they are just going down in a spin and seemingly doing nothing to pull out. Time will tell. Have been after an operators manual if you know where there is one ? Would be great. In all honesty, I'd be lying to say I'm not a bit glad that I can rebuild the engine and have a fresh start knowing it's history so I can keep it maintained...

[@greggroome2791]

❤️🇨🇮😁🙏👍

[@anthonyhough1538]

I like your video's. You mention subscription , how much to join ??

[@LordMuck]

Its FREE !! Haha ! All you do is press the red 'Subscribe' button at the top of my channel and you'll get notifications whenever I post a vid - thats it - nothing to pay !

[@WilliamStevens007]

Shame about the engine on the 3c though.

[@LordMuck]

It's almost what I wanted to see to justify what I really wanted to do....!

[@troyhill7913]

Great video, im new as well, great channel, byt i have a question. What has happened to your 3350 as in what are you doing to her? because we used to own one and she had no issues except the 30k box and the steering was powerful, but other than that she was hunky dory.

[@LordMuck]

If you look back at some of my earlier vids, you will see what we have been doing. I'm currently working on the front panel and headlights, then we will look at working on the cab interior and the wings. After that, she'll be about ready to put to work/play.