Why Men Like Fight Club | Chuck Palahniuk

[@cropcircle5693]

"We've all been raised on Television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars" As he looks right at Jared Leto who is literally all of those things.

[@anthonytroupe4923]

He also is one so.

[@bacht4799]

Still funny..

[@isoldmysoulnowwheresmytale6945]

@@anthonytroupe4923 not the rockstar part though Edit:to the people replying to me I'm referring to Brad Pitt

[@justincredible5406]

That's why he got his face smashed in.

[@joeld2036]

Never realized that was Jared Leto.. mind blown..

[@arielgranados5807]

"We are the middle kids of history "that is a line that will transcend history

[@mmmmm-ne6zn]

We weren't born during the age of sail/discovery (to late) and we are born to early for the age of space exploration.

[@lockinload23]

@@mmmmm-ne6zn if we survive till then, dinosaurs would like a word...oh nvm

[@EinsamPibroch278]

That quote is the middle child of quotes.

[@mattiaopper7182]

Dude we are born the information revolution. The pace of change is crazy right now. Imagine being born in the dark ages that’s some real middle kid situation

[@martinhall3545]

@@mattiaopper7182 people in the middle ages had a purpose and objectives, they had " their fights, their wars and great depressions " we only have mediocrity and no idea about what to do with our lives we are the middle children cuz we are lost, we dont have the wisdom of the old or dreams of youth

[@jackmoore4243]

Everyone is commenting their favorite Fight Club quotes while I'm over here traumatized by that fucking heating pad story.

[@man4437]

Amen brother

[@AutomaticDuck300]

As soon as she said "It slid between my legs...", I started actually saying out loud "No, no, please no. This is terrible. Make it stop." It's a messed up story.

[@robbieshand6139]

@@AutomaticDuck300 I don't think that was the terrible part of the story.

[@AutomaticDuck300]

@@robbieshand6139 it started off disturbing and it got worse from there

[@palabras_de_exito579]

It was disturbing. Wtf

[@jamm_affinity]

I lost my virginity the day after watching it for the first time. Something about fight club just made me give up all of my fears, or at least act in spite of them. It made me start going for what I wanted out of life instead of withering away passively. It was such an impactful film that helped me shape a better perspective about life. The result made me a better man and happier person.

[@danzambrana]

Literally becoming the one person you want. Why can’t you? That’s why I love fight club

[@WillAnderson3rd]

your sister must have been so happy

[@1badombre82]

Heck yeah. I'm about to get a fight club tattoo

[@puppetmaskerr]

@@WillAnderson3rd kek

[@jamm_affinity]

@Apostate dawah you're right, but living the life you want without being held back by fear is priceless.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

The irony of that speech is that is was said by one of the most successful, beautiful, desired and emulated men on the planet. Brad Pitt. And when he says that we won't all be movie stars and rock stars he is literally looking at a rock star.

[@orestmakar8562]

Tyler is the Narrators idealised version of „what a man should be”. He has an ideal body, he looks and behaves like a rock star, he is succesful and happy. As Tyler does not exist it is the Narrator that looks at the Gucci ad with frustration and comments about an unatainable standard of beauty and masculinity which is exactly what he wants to be as Tyler his idealised alter ego is just that.

[@converse5874]

it still makes sense. Tyler is an ideal the narrator has to overcome. and he does overcome this ideal in the end. he kills Tyler and then it is the narrator himself (not Tyler) who leads project mayhem and has the relationship with Marla

[@SamAndrew27]

That’s kinda the point...

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

To the first two comments. You're still missing the point. I'm not on about Tyler. I'm on about Brad. He literally is the embodiment of everything men who love Fight Club wish they were. And I love Brad Pitt too. He is really handsome and a fantastic actor. He dated the most beautiful women in the world, is rich, famous and adored by everyone everywhere he goes. "Nah, nah, Brad's just playing a character..."

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

@@SamAndrew27 It's ironic that actual "losers" in life will quote Brad Pitt in support of their "meaningless" lives.

[@lonelystranger7114]

The heating pad story was like a punch to my gut.

[@sagarnalawade1036]

I did not get the moral of that story, means what is he trying to tell?

[@z3bra_f0untain36]

​@@sagarnalawade1036 I think it's not so much the story the woman is telling that holds the message. It's that Chuck telling the Guts story had a profound affect on this woman that allowed her to open up and talk about some trauma that she's had in her life. The reason he writes sick, twisted, gut-wrenching stories is so that people can relate and connect in strange and unusual ways

[@sagarnalawade1036]

@@z3bra_f0untain36 ohk thanks 👍

[@ioandragulescu6063]

I wonder how many parents f*cked up their children, forever, without even realizing ...

[@AutomaticDuck300]

It's a messed up story though

[@abhinayreddy9811]

You guys clearly broke the first rule

[@amanbalyan3818]

Comedy 100000

[@lakshyaj8949]

The second one too lmao

[@darrencottam1146]

So funny! and the second rule too.

[@tripplejaz]

Cringe

[@Fyrverk]

You hold rules too high ;)

[@ghiaccio1384]

"If you're a man, you got Fight Club or Dead Poet's Society, and nothing else." No truer words said.

[@dancole2994]

I found Karate Kid, Rocky and Coach Carter were helpful growing up too, though maybe not on the same level. I wonder what the female equivalents are, in terms of role models..?

[@devanshrathore9112]

Rocky, braveheart, gladiator, the dark knight trilogy, trainspotting, Rambo, Conan the Barbarian, Raimi's Spiderman trilogy

[@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-s3p]

I think the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is pretty good as well

[@wantstoruletheworld5678]

TOOFASTTOOFURIOUS

[@malcolmotoole]

Read Kentaro Miura's manga Berserk.

[@nielsB_FPV]

When I was about 25 years old, I was completely disillusioned with life (finished school, got a job, had my own place and felt like life was all "trying to keep your head above water and paying bills" and none of the fun it was before) and this movie resonated with me like nothing else.

[@hukihuki4135]

What happened after that?

[@evans2267]

@@hukihuki4135 he got old xd

[@nielsB_FPV]

@@hukihuki4135 I got older, learned to adapt get got and less angry at the world haha.

[@Itsssadaaam]

@@nielsB_FPV do u feel better when ur old ? Like do u start to accept things that aren’t working your way and get less angry about the whole world ? Cuz sometimes i wish i just could skip 20 years of my life and just start from 40 when I’m more comfortable with myself

[@sideskroll]

Thats why I never grew up. I decided long ago that Id be forever a teenager. Running from the burdens of "life".

[@carlorenee1742]

Dead poet society feels like Fight Club for men with lesser rage and frustration. It feels like it expresses feelings from men which doesnt resonate to dialing things up to eleven and doing things recklessly. l love fight club a lot.

[@notsure6222]

Not just that, it had some great wisdom in it, both movies do. The one that remains in my head from Dead poet society is the one where Robin Williams tells them to get on the desk and to always try to see things from a completely foreign point of view.

[@arnox4554]

Loved Dead Poets Society all the way up until *SPOILER* The kid kills himself. And then the movie just keeps going downhill from there. *END SPOILER*

[@Jangel3995]

There’s plenty of Rage in DeadPoets, the dude violently ends a life.

[@carlorenee1742]

@@Jangel3995 I agree with you, that's why I used the term "lesser".

[@Jangel3995]

@@carlorenee1742 yea my bad 🤦‍♀️

[@Pariah_Larry]

The only other way men come together and talk about their feelings is in an AA meeting. It takes hitting rock bottom for us to open up. And even then we still hold back. We’ve been conditioned to act like we don’t care or feel. And I hate it

[@li6706]

Those old boomer heroin, coke, and meth junkies don't give a fuck about the new generations problems and don't wanna listen. I've tried sharing and i see the contempt in their eyes for me just because im younger than them. They wouldn't understand my problems anyway.

[@killrathy]

@@li6706 Thats an age old problem. Blaming boomers isnt gonna fix that issue. Blame the person not the year they were born.

[@gregm32]

Gay

[@lessemo]

ay

[@shadmage3762]

y

[@OnlyAtJaMart]

“A great storyteller doesn’t necessarily awe everyone into silence, a great storyteller inspires the listener to tell their story” - Chuck Palahniuk

[@patrickclerkin56]

These lines stuck deep in my mind. It’s so relevant to our social condition. The consumer model absorbs self and overwrites purpose. When we ask if this is all we’re dismissed as ungrateful. It’s the housewife’s melancholy repackaged. Cubicle neurosis is our unnamed mental decay. “Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes. Working jobs we hate So we can buy shit we don’t need. We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War No Great Depression. Our Great War is a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives.”

[@diegomoreno5927]

Those lines are pure poetry to my ears

[@oliverhansen3773]

Very well, rather poetically put!

[@masterbaits4108]

Well well well. You asked for it.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

Says Brad Pitt. Its a cynical joke within a cynical joke. Oh look, the movie gods and rock stars are telling us how shit and meaningless our live are. Tha k you movie gods and rock stars. Where would we be without you?

[@axelaguirre5014]

The crazy thing is that now with coronavirus, we gen z, aren't the Middle children of history, now it feels we are living historical shit

[@RizztrainingOrder]

Don't be a mindless zombie consumer, be a mindless zombie in my split personality cult!

[@lerrygindgren2076]

Obviously it doesn't work out perfectly, but they don't feel like mindless zombies, even if they are them, because they feel like their lives have purpose. It's their choice, too.

[@andrewstephens5885]

Satire ----

[@mars-oc5qe]

@@lerrygindgren2076 like,,, thats the whole point of the story tho ?? its right there in the text: "you are not a special or unique snowflake, you are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else".

[@shahrouri04]

from capitalism to fascism. Perfect!

[@Andy-Bodhi]

A whole thread that missed the point...kudos

[@lottostuuud]

“I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let’s evolve, let the chips fall where they may.”

[@fellowgoyimwhite7630]

"But That's just me,and i could be wrong".

[@jacobbarling]

That’s Taoism. Look up the Chinese Farmer - Alan Watts on KZbin.

[@beauxguidry5373]

But what if you find out that because of a new dependacy on tech, it may not be possible to evolve anymore?

[@shadowling77777]

@@beauxguidry5373 evolution is always possible And spiritual evolution is always possible too

[@beauxguidry5373]

@@shadowling77777 But what of the ones that rely on tech that do not have the ability to decide for themselves?

[@aaronmitchell4558]

Everybody seems to take the wrong message away from Fight Club. Tyler Durden is wrong, his complaints are valid but his solutions are a warning against how close society teeters to the precipice because it doesn’t address the issues raised.

[@grouchy4105]

People like him because he’s literally designed to be a nietzschean overman

[@nimblejack363]

In an act of blind hypocrisy, he recreates the same system he addressed as the problem. In their head, the unrealistic promises that lead to their distorted expectations weren't the problem. The problem is that they weren't given what they wanted. A lethargic denial that their toxic masculinity is corroding their lives and poisoning their soul. A crawling path to self destruction.

[@joshuablair252]

@@irishpizza2823 apparently any masculinity is toxic. My wife's boyfriend told me that and he bought me a Nintendo switch

[@nimblejack363]

@@irishpizza2823 Positive forms of masculinity exist. Strength, courage, the ability to provide, leadership, those are seen as masculine, and they are good things to look for and to construct in oneself, no matter the gender. Toxic masculinity comes mainly from two factors. "All men should be strong, innate leaders who aren't afraid of anything" is one of many hurtfull generalizations, an attempt to "default" features of manlyness. As soon as you deviate from the norm, you are seen as inferior, as a failure, a "beta" or "simp" or "soyboy". The other factor is actual toxic standards for men. Like "Men have a crazy sex drive" or "Men are always looking for a fight" or "Men never cry" are clearly bad features, but nevertheless are fetishised as features of "A *Real* Man". Masculinity in itself is not a bad. It is as neutral as femininity. It's only when we link it to hurtfull values that it becomes explicitly toxic.

[@ZeteticPhilosopher]

@@nimblejack363 I’m actually quite impressed by the nuance and writing of your comment. Kudos.

[@toddgarver5397]

The irony is, Fight Club in itself is a paradox. It stars movie stars saying they'll never be stars and that people dont need tvs or other items to feel fulfilled. Yet you need a tv to watch the film. Fight Club t-shirts and soap. Shit you dont need.

[@smith97320]

The person talking is the Author of the BOOK. Read the book instead.

[@alex9046]

none of these applies to the book, you know

[@stochastic24]

You're confusing layers of abstraction. It's not a paradox it's only ironic.

[@dragoxk4542]

Well the movie wasn’t written by those movie stars, they’re just used to get his message across

[@oniichan4909]

It's almost like they're actors or something?

[@5tatQuo]

"Until you get some pushback, you don't feel like you're pushing hard enough" dude, I love that.

[@diegomoreno5927]

When I first saw the Fight Club I quit my summer job the next day.

[@wolfgangmitchell5040]

What happened next?

[@theapestudio7889]

Me too, I was working as designer in a US based company, I left that job. it's been 1 and half year I am figuring out what to do next. Ofcourse now working as delivery boy in Domino's.

[@rujutaghag9961]

@@theapestudio7889 i hope you will have a deep found love and a new meaning to your life

[@mrdelaney4440]

I quit work, bought a shovel and set up as a self employed gardener, never looked back since, you either become a space monkey or follow Tyler's example and carve your own destiny.

[@j.m.w.5064]

So, none of you understood that the film itself thinks you are fascist assholes. You didn't get that the film despises Tyler and the fight club itself. Well done. Slow clap.

[@bigdaddy741098]

That story was more moving, more eye opening, and more disturbing than the movie. More than any story I have ever heard. I didn't have a parent do this to me, I instead inflicted this kind of thinking on myself because of being curious at a similar age, I was 8 the first time I remember wishing I wasn't here. By the time I was a teenager, I was ashamed and thought there was something wrong with me. It continued to grow and fester until I felt completely inadequate, and hated everything about myself. Eventually I turned to drugs and alcohol to numb myself, preventing any real growth or achievements, and compounding all those feelings, gradually continuing get stronger until very recently. I am now 47, and am still filled with self hatred and shame, and I new this part of myself was partly to blame, but I thought other factors were the main cause and couldn't understand why getting off drugs, getting professional help, and trying to get real with myself wasn't helping. But after this video, and reflecting and writing this message, that I hope ends up too long for anyone to read, I think this ladies story has helped me realise these early memories and continuing shame I felt has had a much larger influence than I realised. The question is now, does this help me, how do I use this to help myself grow into a proper functioning adult.

[@maltebergman5242]

I have similiar feelings about myself as well, I've never been a happy-go-lucky person, always self-critical and never enough for myself. I have always (less recently) wanted to "feed" of the energy of others instead of just being secure in my own head. I have also been around some shitty people in my teenage years and early 20s which didn't really help either. Knowing after the fact that I was a part of some stuff I'm not proud of. I put my life down to try and "save" my suicidal brother from killing himself and that meant to be part of the group of people he had attracted with his charisma, and by being part of that I was a piece of shit to people who didn't deserve it. In the end he hanged himself in a tree a year into it, so the only result of my time being put into that stuff was a bunch of big life lessons i guess, along with a few really bad years afterwards. I think at least part of the solution is to try and analyze your own thoughts, and hear stories that you connect with, which will give you a bit of a third person perspective of your own thought patterns. I play video games and found this nice youtube channel where a psychiatrist talks with all different kinds of people, mostly gamers though, on stream, about their problems. It's like a mini cartarsis for yourself when you realize you have similiar thoughts to these strangers and when a really thoughtful guy comes up with solutions for them.

[@Ethan-jd3qt]

It's obviously about men and masculinity and how we don't have purpose anymore. The root of being a man is having a purpose and that purpose is lost in our society and the media and everyone is against a man expressing their masculinity. Thats why men love this movie.

[@julianmuller766]

Point well made

[@Ethan-jd3qt]

@Ismael barrera living well doesn't equal purpose lol

[@TheSouthHoosier]

I think the reason I like Chuck so much is he gives me permission to invent grammar rules. Fuck the prepositions and the modifiers and the adverbs. Use what you want, however you want. Edit your story by minimalizing. Take out every word in a sentence until it says the same thing. Start in the middle of a story and write it in as few words possible to get to the end (Vonnegut quote). Chuck does all this and makes a dull read tolerable. Fight Club, Choke, Haunted (Guts)... you name it. The hallmarks of his work are present in all. His craft is Dangerous Writing, and I wish I had a Spanbauer to work with. Universities will study him for centuries.

[@xshadowscreamx]

Fogstow Jamison Press wouldn't a publisher just throw out my story if it does not have correct grammar?

[@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062]

@@xshadowscreamx I think there are correctors for that. People, that test-read your stuff and correct it. I dont know the real job name, in German they are called "Korrektor".

[@artificialfreedom]

@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Lektoren werden die genannt

[@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062]

@@artificialfreedom Mein ich doch :o). Danke.

[@arturdobrzynski6531]

And yet in his books I find so much pseudointellectual fluff I have problem to tolerate.

[@alexandratavares6612]

This film touches on social issues from the prespective of working class people. this is a film where the audience can relate to the characters. It's truly one of the greatest films I've ever watched. Edit: for those of you who are trying to correct me; to avoid repeating myself, just have the patience to read the thread. It's not that long so it won't take you forever to catch up.

[@-Zakhiel-]

I don't know about the perspective of the working class thing. The character of Norton is a middle class guy, fairly good job, good appartement. Mediocre comfortable life. And Tyler refers to some of the men in their fight club as "slaves with white colars". So average guys, not really poor, just people with a mediocre life euthanized by comfort. The poorest protagonist of the movie must be Marla. I think it's a story about men feeling emasculated in modern society : the testicular cancer guys at the beginning, Norton character being in denial about his attraction to Marla, the need for men to express their violence and to find purpose...

[@alexandratavares6612]

@@-Zakhiel- yes, after I've analysed it deeper I realised that it does centre around men in conflict with their masculinity, I was a bit confused because I found myself empathising with the characters although I'm not a man.

[@-Zakhiel-]

@@alexandratavares6612 Well, we all have a feminine and a masculine part. My favorite movie hero is Ellen Ripley from Alien and I can relate to her or even admire her.

[@VividFizzy]

@@alexandratavares6612 you don’t need to be a man to empathize with men struggling in society! But I know such things are taboo in today’s political climate. But while it’s not the working class, it’s the middle class, what do people in the working class want? Rise up in the financial ladder, and they believe there lies salvation in material things. So it’s all one in the same really

[@alexandratavares6612]

@@VividFizzy I recognise the issues that men face in society ( the family courts specially) , but at the moment people are just not ready to have an open mind to talk about it ( including men). It will take some time, but eventually things will progress, just like it always has

[@Ray_Petree]

I distinctly remember when I was 14, I asked my Dad if we could watch Fight Club together. Oddly enough, he had never seen the film, but he was so visibly excited when I asked him to watch it with me. He spent the next 10 or 15 minutes frantically trying to convey how profoundly impactful the novel was, for his generation. To my surprise though, the film left an unsettling taste in my mouth. In reality though, it was I, who failed to understand the dilemma at the center of Fight Club. My Father, born in the midst of the 1960’s, is the poster child for Generation X. He, like so many other men of his era, were sold the American Dream and had buyers remorse. Their Fathers were forged in the fires of the Great Depression and were veterans. They exemplified the American Dream. For Generation X, and I would argue for every generation of men thereafter, there’s been a lack of purpose.

[@BusaLova]

That said, we are genetically no different. I find great pleasure in risky activities like boxing, motorcycling, snowboarding and climbing. Nothing quite like a good adrenalin shot up the arse to make you feel alive. I don't need to defend any country or take orders from an asswipe politician.

[@Maximus5775]

Now imagine how us young men feel in Gen x I’m 17 and I’d argue that these are some of the most corrupt times we are living in

[@icewilliams59]

It's always amazed me how seamlessly Chuck could blend drama and comedy and horror. One of the best story tellers of our time

[@thomaskositzki9424]

Absolutely.

[@Bzorlan]

Once when I was about 10 years old me and my friend were left at home by our parents and siblings. I don't remember what they went to do but I think we wanted to watch lord of the rings so we stayed at home. At some point we either finished the film or decided we were bored of it, so we had a huge fight. The longest and most violent fight I've ever had without anyone getting properly hurt. It was great. One of the most memorable days of my childhood. Fighting is fun :)

[@yusoff9793]

Well that was a plot twist

[@ryanforbes1911]

His telling of the heating pad story will probably be something I remember forever just the way he tells it and the way he talks about the importance of telling traumatic memories will always impact me

[@ssjwes]

My situation was weird because my father was also my "second" father when I started working with him. I got to know him better than I ever had growing up. We both worked at the same machine shop for 20 years he was a welder and I was a machinist. I still work there but he retired then passed away. When he died the shop raised money to help pay for his funeral. I didn't need it but they said they wanted to do it anyway. He meant a lot to a lot of guys there. Some of the guys even saw him as a second father and they told me so themselves. The first time I was told that I was a little jealous for some reason. I learned to take pride in knowing my dad was a good man that people loved to be around and listen to. I was told that a number of time over the years "great man" "the father I never had" "I owe your dad a lot". Sometimes though I felt pressure living up to his example so I always worked my butt off so he wouldn't look bad. The best compliment I received of this nature was our old boss telling me "I wish my son was more like you" or "How did your son turn out the way he is?"(speaking to my dad in front of me). I miss my dad...

[@halalgordonramsay5531]

Good for you, man

[@gadget00]

You’re dad was a great man; no doubt

[@ASMORPHEUS1979]

Good for you…. I was left wondering what a father is.

[@gadget00]

@@ASMORPHEUS1979 then be one to your kids when time comes due and be there; you will know, and your kids will know as well. Everyone wins

[@obigerald5834]

You had a good man as a father and a good head on your shoulder too. Cheers

[@mr.anti-hero4398]

I like Fight Club because it's basically a visual representation of an Ubermensch creation. Firstly, the protagonist is being trapped in a slave morality that's being imposed on society. However, he feels that something's wrong. He feels empty, and his essence is being repressed. Then Durden enters the GAME. Contrary to popular believes, Durden isn't Ubermensch. He's just a catalyst that has to help the protagonist escape the chains of society. By doing "homework" and getting into regular fights, Tyler instils some really important values, like: *a) Without sacrifice, we'd have nothing.* In order to achieve something, you need to embrace the risk, so as the potential pain that comes with it. *b) Self-improvement is masturbation. Now, self-destruction is the answer.* There's no point in self-improving if you're subordinating yourself to a value system that you don't believe in. By doing so, you're only improving the persona which is created by society. Instead of trying to be a better slave, you need to destroy the slave morality and create your values. *c) Only when we lose everything, we're free to do anything.* If you don't have anything to lose, you have nothing you care for. If you have nothing you care for, you can do anything you want, without the fear of consequences stopping you. . . . *d) One day, you're gonna die. Embrace it and accept it* We're all mortal, and eventually, we'll see the end. However, don't let the fear of death stops you from doing the things you think are necessary. There is more, but I'm not trying to make this comment into an article. In the end, Tyler fulfills his mission, and it makes the protagonist (Jack) an Ubermensch. By this time, Tyler outlived his usefulness, and further existence would probably only be toxic for the protagonists, so Tyler needs to go. In the end, we see buildings are collapsing, which is a metaphor for a slave morality destruction, and rebirth of an essence of the protagonist. He's now free to revaluate all values and choose the ones he sees fit. He's also free to be Tyler only when he chooses to. This isn't just a movie. This is a guideline for a fulfilled life. Highly recommend it, especially if you're a young man with no purpose, nor direction in your life.

[@sylvonlama]

Thanks for this! I hope a lot of disenchanted lost men find your words

[@mr.anti-hero4398]

@@sylvonlama I'm glad I can help!

[@theshrek614]

Man how can I save this comment.

[@juankgonzalez6230]

@@theshrek614 Screenshots, man. Every single goddamn time

[@artieschmidt3039]

Wow, I never saw fight Club in such a perspective! Ty!

[@TheAFGFilms]

The best summary of Fight Club I've ever read. And from Urban Dictionary lol. SPOILERS AHEAD!! Fight Club: A terrific yet misinterpreted film. Brad Pitt portrays Tyler Durden, A charismatic and assertive soap seller who becomes Jack's (Edward Norton) new best friend. During the first part of the film, the duo establishes a fight club which draws the attention of dozens of men. It helps Tyler teach them to think for themselves and turn their backs on mainstream consumerism. But later, Tyler brainwashes these men into joining his anarchist cult Known as "Project Mayhem". Then, it is revealed that Tyler is just a hallucination of Jack created to act as his alter-ego. This is what this movie is all about: changing your perspective on life only to make you realize that it's not necessarily better than before. Did you like Tyler? The way women love him, and men want to be him? Well, Tyler is so perfect because Tyler doesn't exist. His true self is Jack who is the total opposite loser. Were you inspired to "think for yourself" and bash consumerism? Well then, you've just become another space monkey, a pawn at Tyler's hand. You fought one system only to be enslaved in another. And for one moment, did you stop and ponder why this anti-consumerism underground movement is so dependent on money like any other organized business? Or how symbolic it is to see Tyler telling Jack he isn't real while wearing a fur coat? The top consumerism cliche? Watch this film again and you will understand. Independent thought is the most precious character a human being can possess and even Tyler Durden can't take it away from you.

[@gabemilian4525]

Bruh I’ve been a space monkey for a year!

[@JavaIsnom]

brilliant critique of the way people misinterpret it :)

[@marianacaceres9261]

Jack's only the name of the character of the medicine book on the film. It is not the narrator's name, It is never told. I know we are talking about the film but the book is amazing and it propused the idea of the narrator's issues in a love triangle where the narrator loves Tyler, Tyler loves Marla and Marla loves the narrator, also gives Marla more prominence. I recommend you to read it.

[@Merjedmedia]

He's not taking away.. he's just getting your attention so you can comment about it and analyze it and tell everyone on KZbin like thousands of other people and channels.

[@ricardoh87]

@@Merjedmedia lol

[@jamesdylan100]

That brownies story is the epitome of adult ignorance and perverseness juxtaposed to child innocence

[@ricardoh87]

puritanism at its best

[@badatcreatingrochellecryst6719]

No it's actually the dangers of technology.

[@ricardoh87]

@@badatcreatingrochellecryst6719 explain

[@badatcreatingrochellecryst6719]

@@ricardoh87 What she did was caused by technology that would have never existed in our purest state of living which was before agriculture.

[@ffnovice7]

Never feed the trolls

[@mattday7337]

It is the ultimate irony that after fight club came out with its whole "we work jobs we hate to but shit we don't need", it was immediately met with a wave of people wanting fight club t-shirts and fight club posters. Height of ignorance

[@rustyboy172]

Omg fucking god

[@jankins9470]

@@rustyboy172 Oh my god fucking god?

[@TheRedHaze3]

Well, I think he's really talking about expensive luxury items. Things people think they need, but don't. A plasma TV, an expensive car, a lavish home, etc. You don't need any of that shit, but you'll work yourself to the bone to get it. T-shirts and posters cost very little, and are valued at very little. You don't work a job you hate to buy t-shirts and posters.

[@mattday7337]

@@TheRedHaze3 merch still costs money Money that more than likely came from a job Merch is not an item essential to life I don't understand the point you're trying to make here

[@TheRedHaze3]

@@mattday7337 The problem isn't buying shit you don't need, or working a job to get money. It's that you're working a job *you hate,* and the reason you're working *that job* and not one that you like more, is because it pays more money, and you want more money because you want to buy expensive shit you don't need. The point is that you would be much happier working a lower-paying job that isn't soul-crushing, even though you wouldn't have an expensive car, or a big house, or a plasma TV, because happiness doesn't come from material wealth.

[@pearcepackman6163]

That heating pad story was fantastic and he is truly an amazing story teller

[@MetAlcboy]

The ending was fucked up, though

[@Blackbirdie765]

His name is Robert Paulson.

[@takeafkinchance]

His name is Robert Paulson

[@Testosterooster]

His name is Robert Paulson.

[@theberserker4389]

His name is Robert Paulson!!

[@dhirenkumar2844]

His name is Robert Paulson

[@SrTacoman]

His name is Robert Paulson.

[@thearchangel9835]

Confession has been the oldest technique for relief but people have thrown it behind their minds and now when they hear stuff like this, it appears to them as a breakthrough...

[@GigaChadh976]

Maybe because people finally got tired of prostrating themselves.

[@GigaChadh976]

@@thearchangel9835 I didn’t say procrastinating. I said prostrating. Those are two different words.

[@thearchangel9835]

@@GigaChadh976 oh, my bad!... that makes sense, idk why I red "procrastinating" lol

[@cybersanta1413]

@@GigaChadh976 yeah we're all way freer without god now.

[@Woodside235]

People learn something twice. Once when they hear about it, and once when they understand it. It's best not to berate people for it, and instead celebrate it.

[@f4ptr989]

This movie has more relevance today than it did when it was released, there is an unprecedented crisis in masculinity these days.

[@rhyshall8778]

couldn't of said it better my self. and some dumb ass radicals will try to reface it. cows

[@beauxguidry5373]

Today, it might be deeper than that because of a possible form of misinformation that a large number of people has been talked into.

[@pasticheit9677]

@@rhyshall8778 and yet the original source material was written by a gay guy, couldn’t have spotted the underlying satire in the book and you couldn’t have spotted it in the film either correct? so much for the “radicals” apparently.

[@wtfimcrying]

@@pasticheit9677 gay =/= radical

[@pasticheit9677]

@@wtfimcrying to you.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

This is such a Gen X movie. A generation that has had it good as any other except one, and it is not enough for them. I'll take middle class suburban malaise over the crap we've had to deal with the past 20 years.

[@asdfqwert3165]

I hate those lazy boring idiots. All they can do is to whine about their crappy lifes

[@Ultrad321]

I agree. Every gen x-er I ever worked with was either a hyper type A overachiever or a non-stop complaining burn out alcoholic. Not that my generation (millennial) is much better

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

As they say, you dont know how good you had it. . . Remember that when we straggle through ashes left by the nukes

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

@@Journey_to_who_knows O god I hope not. But at this rate it seems almost inevitable someone is going to do something extremely stupid like atomize several cities and millions of people and all the others after. It just seems like the correct trajectory for our species. I remember being in high school during Y2K and talking with my friends about what we'd do if the glitch did launch against Russia and Russia against us. How quaint Y2K was!

[@missplledwords]

@@asdfqwert3165 meanwhile you whine in the KZbin comment sections

[@porcupethcrumpets]

i was a 16 year old girl when i first watched fight club i don't know what got into me but i: 1. immediately read the book and saved all quotes i liked 2. felt something like my previous gamer rages but this time it was someone else in me that was getting angry and i was just watching her (i separated my feelings from myself. this would immensely benefit me later on) 3. dug my nails into my right palm as hard as i could to see how much it hurt 4. asked my crush out through a message and got rejected lol 5. slept like a log for the first time in many months knowing i had done something different that day, that it wasn't the same grind. lessons learnt: 1. you and your feelings are not one and you're not a slave to them 2. keep trying, learning, doing new things to avoid getting into the rut of 'lack of newness' and 'everyday is exactly the same' 3. it doesn't hurt to be courageous as long as you don't hurt others or yourself edit: PS:- why you should read the book: a quote from the last page of the book i saved: Why did I cause so much pain? Didn’t I realise that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness? Can’t I see how we’re all manifestations of love? I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God’s got this all wrong. We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens. I let go. Lost in oblivion. Dark and silent and complete. Losing hope is freedom

[@SuzanneKowalski]

The heating pad story at the end was brutal. Man, this really hit me hard. :(

[@derek96720]

Christianity has set us so far back in terms of being at peace with our natural human drives. So many generations of people that will never fully enjoy life because their parents shamed, beat, and traumatized them for doing normal human things.

[@jameshorton3692]

@@derek96720 that’s the dumbest shit I ever read. Degeneracy isn’t freedom.

[@derek96720]

@@jameshorton3692 "degeneracy" is an arbitrary concept decided entirely by uptight ideologues. There are people who can sex outside of marriage "degeneracy," even though the concept of Christian marriage h has only existed for a sliver of recorded human history.

[@basedkaiser5352]

@@derek96720 ok, heretic. Here’s your fedora, you dropped it.

[@Ghostly-00]

@@derek96720 They called you a heretic lol. I've never heard someone say that in a serious sentence before.

[@arceyes]

1999 I’m 17 this movie hit me because of the cool delivery. I’m 40 this year, many of the points are still relevant.

[@jesitimpe8748]

The one and only thing I enjoy about KZbin Comments is the reminder that thought-provoking material will provoke the attention of all audiences, no matter when the artists' works were published or released. Worthy work intrinsically knows how to relate and resonate, timelessly. Kudos C.P. Thank You for your contribution 💗

[@4rnorthwest]

Whoever cut this together...you NAILED IT! you actually included the soundtrack (which is actually a score written specifically for the film by the DustBrothers)! The whole film, no soundtrack, no pop bands or music, just a score, a perfect score written for this film and it is masterful. Whatever happened to the dust brothers I hope they’re successful and happy. I still have the original CD release of the film score. Saw the film, had to have it.

[@4rnorthwest]

....oh goddamnit! Then you threw Tim of the clock by the chromatically!?🙄👎🏽

[@kasiosseijuro8494]

Great video man. I really enjoy the way you structure these.

[@AswathReacher]

Deku?

[@metallicarifflover]

I watched this video a few years ago and was mesmerized by the stories told by Chuck and your dramatization. Lost the video and wasn't able to find this until today and now I'm saving it in my playlist like the jewel it is.

[@j.r.zaturn8640]

Fight club is the modern mans guide to Nietzscheism.

[@QueenBee-pb6bt]

And Nietzsche was an idiot

[@wimex9062]

@@QueenBee-pb6bt why

[@syngeist3297]

@@Synday you obviously don't get it.

[@tradermann]

@@Synday Nietzsche literally tried to warn people about the dangers of nihilism. Just goes to show you have not actually read him, nor do you understand what he was trying to tell to the world.

[@ahuman5150]

@Graig Simmonette I wouldn't call Nietzsche an idiot but I wouldn't call him a genius either. He had thought provoking ideas for sure but I do think he is in general overrated. Just saying!

[@padrinozerocool]

like creed said ine rocky 4, "without a goddamn war to fight for, the warrior is very well dead stallion"...a current phenomena for most men today...we need a goal, an idea or war, or all aforementioned to fight for...

[@GOTTshua]

The freedom of the entire world is currently in the balance as the satanic forces of the NWO and World Economic Forum yearn for their 2030 Agenda to be the norm. That is a pretty staunch enemy to fight. As is the antichrist himself.

[@Wolfman7870]

Tough times create strong men, strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create tough times. Perpetuating motion machine of human history. Understand the cycle and enjoy the ride.

[@cybersanta1413]

@@GOTTshua But they give us netflix, doritos and PS5's. How can we oppose them?

[@milosav7314]

@@GOTTshua staunch cuz

[@hihy220]

I don't think you want a war. Something to do with your life sure but war, no..

[@edwardv4546]

Fight Club, for me, showed me you can become ANYTHING you put your mind to. You can become a completely different version of yourself. As an engineer, I'm expected to be socially inept. Bitch I'm a rockstar. I'mma get on the stage and act a fool. The world is mine. I would've never felt this way if it wasn't for Fight Club. Don't let anyone define you. You are everything you wish you could be. Shit, you could also be your complete nemesis. The point is, you have the power to decide. So decide.

[@ФеофанЭтополедолжнобытьзаполне]

Like anyone know who tf they are or even want to be. You clearly haven't tried your theory for yourself yet.

[@dx3385]

"the things you own, end up owning you"

[@conejo1595]

papa roach

[@dx3385]

@@conejo1595 it's a quote, the best quote, from fight club

[@conejo1595]

@@dx3385 I know, I just remembered it was in a papa roach song "between angels and insects" that I realize now was heavily influenced by the movie

[@dx3385]

@@conejo1595 ah ok I was confused, also the remix they're doing of "last resort" sounds good

[@dingus1655]

“Why men like fight club” I did not ask for such an accurate personal attack 😂

[@real_darrion]

6:13 "It's a way of mastering yourself as you master this other thing. But it is that existentialist moment where you realize that you have to sacrifice your youth for something. You are not gonna live forever and you've got to give your life to something." The inability to sacrifice your youth for that one thing is the reason why people unable to grow up and move on to adulthood.

[@austinholm-mcrae2777]

I love Chuck Palahniuk. He pushes not only the bounds of literature, but he pushes the reader while they read his works. He has to be one of my favorite writers, if not the one.

[@wyattbreymeyer4033]

what is nuts to me is that i got that feeling of rough ness with bjj, when you are rolling and going after each other it feels like youre 10 years old wrestling and fighting with your friends again, and in our normal lives in the 20th century roughhousing like that after the age of 16 is seldomly found

[@rossmcdonagh1554]

BJJ was the centre of such a crazy realisation for me ! The only time of my life where I could go all out all of the time in college and work was when I was training 5 days a week. The catharsis from that controlled aggression is unbelievably powerful

[@wyattbreymeyer4033]

@@rossmcdonagh1554 it is wild how you feel after a class and some rolls, the amount of stress relief pushed me through some dark times in my life

[@rossmcdonagh1554]

@@wyattbreymeyer4033 Absolutely !! Nevermind the added effect of "well if I could survive getting triangled for a solid 60 seconds and escaped and won then I can definitely force myself to do this essay"

[@ianway2725]

Try boxing at least youll get hit in the face

[@wyattbreymeyer4033]

@@ianway2725 im good lol, i took like 3 muay thai classes at my gym and on the 3rd one i got knocked down from an elbow

[@kentlarwill9323]

Watched the JRE interview and then clicked on this. Even though I remembered almost every single part of these moments I loved the visualization and enjoyed re-hearing this.

[@tinymegazell6060]

Me, a 13 year old girl who's seen both dead poets society and fight club (both are some of my favorite movies). It makes me think while I loved both of those movies the one that really spoke to me on the topic of consumerism and emptiness, was spirited away. I've watched that movie so many times and the themes are similar. I guess everybody deals with the effects of advertising and promises differently. Social media is the epitome of that but its so addicting. I'm afraid when I grow up I won't be able to stop. Maybe I have more to learn on these movies.

[@theobserver9131]

I'm sorry your childhood was so short. A 13 year old should not have to realize this crap yet. You sound wise. I hope you find joy in life.

[@tinymegazell6060]

@@theobserver9131 I believe you can be mature as a person but also be childish and enjoy things, thats like my whole personality lol. being mature isnt only unique to me but i believe my whole generation are full of people who have become very self aware of the injustices in the world, maybe that will help us make change in the world now. if we aren't plagued by our addiction to social media, as boomerish as that sounds. i really believe ive become addicted, and the constant advertising, whether subtle or just blatant, make us forget the message of movies like these. thats why i came here.

[@tinymegazell6060]

@Projekt Kobra not so much minimalism as looking into the companies I purchase from and making sure the product i am getting is really gonna last and make me happy. Sitting back from trends and being like: do I like it because I really want it or just advertising? I learn that if I didn't think about it before seeing it online the answer is probably just advertising

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

You're staring into the abyss real early. Take this one liter bottle of beer, an ignition key for a Trueno AE86 and this box of opiod based painkillers as a welcoming gift to the doomer club.

[@salasart]

Be careful, you seem smart and mature for your age, but that in itself can be a trap. An overinflated ego can be harmful to you and those who surround you. Be confident in what you do know, but be curious and humble, it will help you learn faster and it will get you more allies and friends in life and career, everybody needs a hand sometimes, even the greatest.

[@JoeySocko]

The book and movie have influenced my life more than anything else. I would not be the person I am without and for that I am grateful to mr palanuik.

[@f4ptr989]

This movie is more relevant today than it’s ever been, there is an unprecedented crisis in masculinity, and kids are being raised that any masculinity is toxic.

[@rolouche790]

Ha ha "simp" go brrrrr

[@michaelskipp4011]

Yeah and men are forever grappling with how to be a man in the world, which is distracting us from the bigger picture of how to be a human. We're so used to being held back that we can't move on.

[@mars-oc5qe]

@F4PTR you do realise that the story is a criticism on toxic masculinity, and is depicting an extreme and perfect toxic masculinity. it's meant to be a lighthouse to warn us against what not to be, you're not meant to want what's happening.

[@f4ptr989]

@@mars-oc5qe Sometimes I wonder if people even watch the same movie.

[@bibaolaitan5189]

Not any masculinity

[@MTGPringles]

"I'm gonna go inside and I'm gonna get a shovel" English teachers: Insightful. Absolutely brilliant.

[@non-believer990]

Fight club is a pure legendary movie so much closer to my heart.

[@searabeara5328]

At 12, I saw the end of fight club. I was obsessed. I read it and watched it over and over and over. I'm 33, I never thought this was just about men. But I love the message and I know so many lines because it's epic.

[@Sleptking994]

Fight Club is literally only comprised of men...

[@mayank9183]

It's for everybody male or female no question

[@archetypealch3my290]

​@@mayank9183 nahh it's directed towards men

[@zephfyre5167]

@@archetypealch3my290 Yeah, but most of the lessons are applicable to anyone, whether you're a man or a woman.

[@archetypealch3my290]

@@zephfyre5167 that's another story, this one is for the boys

[@GregariousAntithesis]

The end of this is mind blowingly amazing, brings a whole different level to the movie.

[@eazymethod01]

The middle ground (middle way, in-moderation) Norton at the end of the film is the solution. He started on one pathetic end, and throughout the story pushed the other extreme. People usually have issues by being on one end or the other. Neither are whole or sustainable. Why does no one ever talk about this lol.

[@hgzmatt]

You are absolutely right. And this is exactly how it needs to happen.. to find that healthy balance you need to push to an extreme so you can eventually come back to center.

[@caralho5237]

in the incorporated his agression, his drive and his will into his personality instead of letting those control who he is or completely removing them from existence in order to kill tyler, he had to give up his fear of death and shoot himself in the face

[@tofumarinado]

it's exactly the author's message i think. durden is also a hypocrite, and his ways are as alienating and as destructive as the former evils that plagued the protagonist in the first place

[@RionDarling]

I'm so happy people like Chuck Palahniuk exist. I've spent much of my life telling stories in the same way, so as to allow for a space for others to tell their stories. This whole video is amazing and Chuck, if you're out there, thank you for doing what you do.

[@BilltheFifth]

It's nice to have an author that writes for men. These days, nobody gives a shit about the man's struggle. Nobody gives a shit about the man's journey. We're told to shut up and enjoy our "privilege ".

[@selenophile5256]

Rocky, Avengers, blade runner, matrix, any Ryan Gosling movie Bruh

[@gabrielpirry]

@@selenophile5256 The avengers? Are you for real?

[@foxman2137]

NOT TRUE IN THE LEAST.

[@Maximus5775]

@@foxman2137 yes it is

[@foxman2137]

@@Maximus5775 We can go back and forth but most movies have a man in them! Even in the title: Superman, spiderman, Ironman. The OP is just crying wolf with a victim mentality so that they feel better. If you really think this is true. What exactly are films supposed to showcase?

[@omgnetwork5231]

FIGHT CLUB, has a lot of hidden gems in its lines and dialogues.

[@johnnybravo8510]

I'm compelled to binge-watch.

[@pauljames1807]

To binge watch what?

[@johnnybravo8510]

Paul James the rest of JRE Films.

[@pauljames1807]

@@johnnybravo8510 ahh

[@phaeton01]

8:55 that little 4th wall glace at the camera is so spot on

[@danielc.5260]

the heating pad story really resonates with people who have been traumatised by their parents at a young age. i felt so bad for her

[@desinasa4102]

sometimes i feel i should have had a more loving father, but now i think he is also a product of our opressed society. now I will break this chain

[@milkultraviolence7808]

"generations x y and z will be the downfall of humanity" Fight Club book 3

[@Aquamayne100]

big facts

[@Aquamayne100]

@Keanu Xu how? most millennials and zoomers stopped maturing in 8th grade

[@wumpus3719]

boomers were the biggest mistake in history

[@WBROTHERS]

@Keanu Xu you have a good message until you make it political. So are you implying that the us is only a really great country during wartime?

[@bobafett979]

@Keanu Xu not just Republicans dude. That’s what he meant about being political, you singling our just one party when in reality it’s both that are at fault here.

[@Ryanthebrobdingnagian]

I had just started fighting when this came out. I couldn't believe how accurate he spoke about how things feel when you fight. It was really well done.

[@XerosXIII]

im lucky i got to listen to the podcast by chance and listening to joe and chuck palahniuk is amazing. great job making this into a short, much more accessible than listening to 2~3 hours of podcast

[@Wolfsheim23]

This is one of few times where the movie was better than the book. The style and everything visually was so so amazing in this film

[@nicholasbiddle7893]

I love your writing Chuck Palanuik although some folks may be shocked and appalled, for someone who has actually experienced such dark things hearing it from another is cathartic.

[@nasherbuenafe253]

Fight club can be seen in spiritual lense and psychology lense. Its a master piece

[@nasherbuenafe253]

@Matthew Smith thw way you view world . What stand point of perception

[@Clingerman93]

Only once you've lost everything are you then able to do anything-Tyler Durden

[@mrzed2349]

This is one of those life changing films.

[@colinhurst-ashbaugh9169]

The secret to making everything special in life is adding spin to it like a curve ball and even life events spin it till it does something noone has ever seen before making traumatic events funny is the best spin you could ever do that is a amazing way to think about it.

[@Matt-hh2ye]

Reddit hive mind thinks this movie is about "toxic masculinity." No joke. I'm amazed at how badly they missed the point.

[@jermaine2712]

Reddit is a cesspool of emasculated men and white guilt soyboys so I wouldn't think about it too much

[@johnmarston4012]

yous lot generalise reddit so much. I've only found people that like it there. Don't get me wrong there's plenty of tossers on it but it definitely isn't that polarised

[@Matt-hh2ye]

@@johnmarston4012 I didn't say they didn't like it.

[@jacobgilfry7121]

The whole final act of the movie is him killing Tyler, the ultra-aggressive/hyper-masculine aspect of his personality. How is that not about toxic masculinity??

[@Matt-hh2ye]

@@jacobgilfry7121 first off that would be assuming that toxic masculinity is even a real thing. Hes suffering a psychosis, is that toxic masculinity? We're calling people with mental disorders toxic? Secondly, if we pretend toxic masculinity is real, that would mean that toxic femininity would also exist. You could argue that he was suffering from toxic femininity in the beginning of the movie which eventually pushed him to the other extreme. The movie would then be about balance. Not simply "toxic masculinity." Society trying to suppress masculine energy as something that's bad is what pushed him to the edge. It would be just as much about the pussification of men as it is about "toxic masculinity"

[@MrTuubster]

When I see Edward Norton stalking around Leto. All I can think of is "seconds from disaster..."

[@apelincoln1616]

Uh, yeah. That heating pad story is one I'd like to forget but is gonna periodically popped up in my head for the rest of my life....

[@alejandroWar23]

I love the nine inch nails GHOST tracks in this video. Really compliments the movie.

[@user-jc3io1se1y]

This was one of the best vids ive watched in months

[@julianmuller766]

same

[@thatguyoverthere2755]

The reason me and my friend learned MMA when we grew up. We both suffered divorces around the same time and felt we had been done wrong and had no place in society. We legit learned MMA and beat the shit out of each other for stress relief...

[@shawnriver5486]

I love seeing this channel right now at 6k subs knowing ur gonna have a million in the future!

[@CadaverSplatter]

It's a film of such depth, you can think, converse and write about it endlessly.

[@timsmoderngear]

Fight Club's meaning is that the characters a brilliantly clever in pointing out the problems, but horrible in delivering any "constructive" solutions. They become what they actually hate: Oppressive and uncompromising troublemakers. Basically terrorists that fight fire with fire out of pure anger and self-pity. On a personal level, the narrator has to overcome his "youthful" naivety and idealization of what a man / person should offer to society and what expectations are of a long-term value. It's basically about a transition to "real" adulthood and fight your radical and impulsive sense of "justice", presented as a heavy midlife crisis.

[@SkaterDuck92]

im fucking clapping my hands off while Im finishing this video. he is a true fucking genius writer and this video is an absolute masterpiece of editing. great job gg

[@kilianbader9786]

Yes its awesome

[@JOOCHIANTING]

The heating pad story was a mind-opener... mind-blown

[@daxisperry7644]

“Working jobs we hate to buy shit we don’t need.” What a great quote. I’m glad I enjoy my job.

[@skizilla]

"We are polishing brass on the Titanic"

[@cshan159]

Ending was perfect - a true story teller

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

PALAHNIUK is a literary GENIUS. One of the greatest authors alive. Not just because of Fight Club (the film is a total masterpiece) but many of his other novels are phenomenal.

[@shinscythe]

The best video I've seen in years

[@theplaguepadart3743]

I saw this movie when I younger maybe 15. I'm 32 now. This movie blew my mind, and completely changed my point of view of life.

[@skullsaintdead]

Women tend to cut themselves, but with men, they go out and start fights. I think the result is the same: endorphins flood into your brain and you feel validated. You're mentally in pain and now its physical which is so much easier to control. The whole film, to me, is bout self-injury and trying to manage your pain.

[@cameronyoung6716]

The film is about the importance of finding your own purpose and meaning imo. Pain is the vehicle that helps you get there.

[@xavier4519]

@@cameronyoung6716 chasing physical pain doesn't help you get anywhere, it only fuels a destructive behaviour that i think is nicely shown in the movie

[@raxevonapbwd8769]

I think that the movie also accentuates how men thrive in suffering. Wars seem to produce more men, so does the cold, and in the world of luxury these days the men disappear into blank flaboyant masses, suppressed not only by reality but social commentary as well.

[@joeprimal2044]

Yes. Brainwashed into fragility.

[@CKSiLoYT]

Palahniuk as both a writer and person was a male figure that guided me to ask some uncomfortable questions when I was younger. My first memories of considering the philosophies of letting go, were inspired by him. He was my first taste of the controversial when I was a child. Obviously I ignored all of those messages when I became a teenager but coming back to those things when I hit my 20's, and looking back on it now, he was very influential to me and I am grateful for what he has done.

[@DeadpoolAli]

"We have no great war... No Great Depression" 2020: allow me to introduce myself...

[@peterbigo9951]

2020 is nothing, you didn’t have to go to war, and more than likely didn’t feel any financial hardship. You had to sit in home for a while and let the storm pass while playing computer games.

[@joaobeloferreira9823]

This is a pussy crisis.

[@joaobeloferreira9823]

@@peterbigo9951 There is a german commercial that mocks with this year. An old person telling that he made his duty being sited in the couch in the 2020 year. Pussy crisis.

[@peterbigo9951]

@@joaobeloferreira9823 spot on, think this has been the easiest year I’ve had in 20 years. 😂

[@naplzt4k]

@@peterbigo9951 I have hardships and would prefer war to plague...can't fight a virus

[@meh.7640]

shit i'm so damn angry now at that poor womens mother who whipped her like she had knowingly sold her soul to satan or something. that kind of complete misinterpretation of lust is the reason we have this gender war in society right now.

[@elrichjr301]

You are disgusting

[@13BlueCrimson]

@@elrichjr301 Why did you say that?

[@theaverageitaliandon998]

Agreed, you can’t blame a child for doing an activity that brings them pleasure when they have no way of understanding what the implications of said activity are

[@archesworn377]

Listen carefully, she had a mother who left her alone for hours, unsupervised, with other children. Presumably while mom was at work because mom "got home early." Hmm, neglect already happening.

[@derek96720]

@@archesworn377 that's my neglect. A 7 year old is capable of being unsupervised, if they're raised to be responsible. Young girls experimenting is normal and healthy. Beating your child with electrical cable isn't.

[@jamesgrimes4587]

This is exactly the sort of thing I'd like to do with podcasts. I love editing, and I think podcasts are some of the best raw material to work with.

[@KanedaSyndrome]

What the kids do is not dirty until the parents make it dirty. This was a special kinda video, quite interesting. I love Fight Club.

[@idiotidiot5821]

Not true...i still remember being a kid. Some kids were dirty and evil. I guess putting a pencil inside a cat isnt perverse to you. Ohhhh theyre just kids. Seriously saw other kids my age do that while laughing when I was 8. Idk how thats not dirty.

[@KanedaSyndrome]

@@idiotidiot5821 That's definitely dirty and evil. I guess I made my comment to a specific context or scenario.

[@-Zer0Dark-]

@@idiotidiot5821 Your specific incident aside (obviously, and I think you knew that), children exploring their natural urges is not, in itself, dirty or wrong. It's how we come to understand ourselves as carnal humans with biological incentives. Only when parents introduce shame and disgust into the issue do we come to see those urges as shameful and disgusting. ...Was the point.