A reminder that we are courteous to each other in the comments section, lest we incur the wrath of the KZbin naughty words blacklist. And if you want merch, you can go here! jill-bearup.myspreadshop.com/ Also: YE OLDE TIMESTAMPS, as it used to be that you can't click them in the description on mobile (don't know if that's still true, but here we are): 00:37 1. You don't need boob plate 02:23 Alternate options 03:14 2. Divots are a disadvantage 03:56 Muscle cuirasses 04:35 Boob shelf designs 05:11 Cleavage divots 05:39 Wasp waist armor 06:44 Sticky weapons 08:02 Codpieces 08:40 3. Consider mobility (including experiments) 09:35 Two handed weapons and giant swords 10:29 Underlayers and materials used in experiments 11:03 Low guards and power generation in boob plate 11:46 Not painting a 'look, a lady!' target on yourself with your armor 12:17 4. Breathing is important 13:44 Corsets are not like armor, and scifi armor with flex 15:39 Lightning round
@AndrewD8Red3 жыл бұрын
Courteous in the comments? Oh bless your heart Jill, you sweet summer child. This is the Internet.
@mayathomas89343 жыл бұрын
By the way, the timestamps currently aren’t showing up in the normal way I believe? Off the top of my head (might be wrong) I think when the video’s over 10 minutes long the time format has to say like “09:35” instead of “9:35”
@JillBearup3 жыл бұрын
@@mayathomas8934 Ah, helpful, thank you 🙂
@Gauldame3 жыл бұрын
Are the boob cups like... literal cereal bowls duct taped on? I just picture you walking in to the kitchen and just saying "now is your time". While looking at them.
@khajiitimanus74323 жыл бұрын
In mobile version, having timestamps in the actual video description now may give the video separate sections/chapters. There will appear a subtitle alongside the video time bar, with the name of the timestamp. Pressing on the subtitle may open up a timestamp list for mobile users to select from. However, I do not know how this newer function works. At the least, I know it did not work for this singular video on my device. I don't know anything else on the matter, though the timestamps themselves do work properly from the description. :p Here is a working example of the phenomenon for mobile device viewing, shown in this music video listing the 3 main tracks from Lord of the Rings to have the Isengard motif (at the least, it works on my end): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYm5paOFfbakrLs
@anne.liese_3 жыл бұрын
me not knowing anything about armour or wanting to make armour: yes i will watch this it is very important.
@onedaysai03 жыл бұрын
Saaame
@cjlipsitz5953 жыл бұрын
Me too
@contingenc35483 жыл бұрын
Same
@oatlord3 жыл бұрын
It'll be good for arguing on the internet.
@fracturedwolf58433 жыл бұрын
indeed i came here as it looked intriguing
@bansarivora74483 жыл бұрын
Jill: "cover her vitals!" Anime studios: this sentence is wordy, and hard to read.
@trolldrool3 жыл бұрын
Not at all. In fact anime studios would agree wholeheartedly. They just have a unorthodox interpretation of what counts as vital parts.
@BologneyT3 жыл бұрын
@@trolldrool LOL first I wanted to thumbs your comment down, THEN I wanted to thumbs it UP! XD hehe
@sarasorensen26503 жыл бұрын
Haha tldr
@Mr.Ekshin3 жыл бұрын
Lets face it... most women choosing armor would forget ALL of these practical considerations, and choose whatever was most sexy and stylish.
@tungstenwhizard43613 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Ekshin Okay, wait a minute. Who's "most women"? Isn't it the artist who decides what they wear?
@N17C1 Жыл бұрын
The US Army spent a lot of time and money testing modern ballistic armour designed for women. The final result was that a standard 'male' plate worked better than any other design tested.
@WisdomAndWar1335 ай бұрын
Wow. Respectable, fortunate, and unsurprising all in one. Way to go, U.S. Army!
@sarahcicle85925 ай бұрын
I’m glad the did test it instead of assuming either way though
@orionbarnes1733 Жыл бұрын
As somebody who is doing character design of a female soldier, thank you for this. You have no idea how much work it was to get reference material that actually portrayed a normal human body and not a stripper covered in a thin layer of metal
@Mortablunt Жыл бұрын
I ended up doing multiple designs for my futuristic uniforns. The enlisted working uniform is what she would wear every single day and it’s a unflatteringly square cut tunic and pants. Nobody no matter how gorgeous is going to look good in this. Enlisted combat fatigues are cut some more slimly for mobility and partially for intimidation. The armor top suite is high waisted for articulation and wears unisex. The bottom suite differs between the genders. The male lower armor suite has more plates that are larger because the male form is more straight up and down. The female lower suite has more plates that are smaller due to the extra curvature of the female form. They still look mostly similar and offer roughly the same protection. The big difference is in parade and formal uniforms. The male parade unicorn is model off of the civilian suits and features hi Brigid 90° shoulders and just enough neckline to reveal a bit of undershirt that showcase the muscles of a strong soldier. The trousers are plate cut and close to form fitting. All sleeves are full length. The female uniform has more downward singlets including a neckline that reveals the undershirt between the breasts and a skirt that comes out to the knees. The sleeves are three quarter length and white stockings cover the legs.
@AManNamedHawk Жыл бұрын
@@Mortablunt That’s fairly realistic too. The combat and formal worlds have strong lines between them and an outfit designed to be stylish could display sex within reason, but a utility or combat fatigue issued en masse should be unisex. It costs the military less to issue and fits the context of the uniform and function of the grunt. My inspiration for this is the USMC, where there is no true “female” uniform minus pregnancy blouses, and formal wear.
@me5969 Жыл бұрын
It all depends on what/where/when you're doing it. I'm make but I'm an ex British soldier but my sister was also a medic so I have experience of things to a relative degree. We have a saying which is "allyness saves lives". Basically ally is looking cool in your kit. We actually all got a massive bollocking because we kept going on patrol with no tops on and stuff and then getting sun stroke. What I'm saying is if a soldier can get away with looking ally then they will. It sounds ridiculous but it really is style over function sometimes. Para reg don't even go full Gary (gortex) so we'd literally rather get piss wet through than be caught wearing waterproof pants. You can see when they got rid if their tattoo policy that most of the UK forces ended up with full sleave and hand and finger tattoos nearly overnight. The women is arguably more interesting to you though. The women did wear lads kit but they get issues specifically women plate carriers and things now because their bodies are different. So women do actually have their own fitted armour now as it's actually more dangerous to be in men's. They also allowed varying hair styles. Back when me and my sister were in they were only allowed a bun in a certain way but now they can have different styles and I can't tell you how happy they were that they can have ponytails and things now. I'm not sure about the makeup situation but they definitely do want makeup freedom. It sounds daft but people want to look good, even in a scrap. It's why they had to allow tattoos and the hands and neck (not throat or face) and why everyone apart from the Army who are stuck in 1917 allow beards. (although that's not relevant to the women.. Well maybe the RAF girls) I also go hiking a lot and I can say most women wear leggings and this isn't exclusive to hiking. They do in the gym and I know a lot of women would prefer to wear leggings in the military. I actually do think if there wasn't a uniform standard (so SAS, SBS, SRR) women would actually choose to wear combat leggings. Basically on the future or a mercenary or modern SF would probably have a ponytail, a small plate carrier and some sort out out door leggings (think what hikers and mountain climbers wear) and light makeup. If not given the choice then they'll just get what's issued and that can vary not only from nation to nation but from force to force
@natmorse-noland91333 жыл бұрын
"Knocking a knight off their horse is generally a win condition for peasants." - That is, incidentally, exactly how a paladin character I made in Pathfinder died at like level 2.
@kateiannacone26983 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeah, that'll do it... lol
@burntcoppery3 жыл бұрын
Peasants: 'yay now is ransom time! ooo, how much is your armour worth to you, noble person?'
@veronikaczr11053 жыл бұрын
When knocked off your horse: A. You can fall so badly that you can die at the spot B. You can be killed by those peasants before you can "recover" from the fall C. When in a big battle, there are many other riders behind you, so if you fall, you will definitely be killed by other horses Remember, you don't want to fall, so don't give those peasants more chance to knock you off. Don't wear stupid breastplate
@makhond24983 жыл бұрын
water, a tabletop silent assassin, try crossing it in heavy armor with a spiteful DM
@pandapounce3 жыл бұрын
F
@Halberddent3 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine some fantasy duke slamming his fist on his desk and saying "I paid three hundred gold for that armor, by god I'm going to make it HOT!"
@christinajackson26623 жыл бұрын
Please tell me it’s for him and he’s referring to the scanty chain mail bikini version, lol
@MiciusPorcius3 жыл бұрын
@@christinajackson2662 every Duke has his kink I guess🤷♂️ The serfs get a good laugh out of it I bet. “Psst I heard the Duke wears lady clothes when he’s alone, te he.”
@kramermariav3 жыл бұрын
Armor pour homme
@Bluecho43 жыл бұрын
@@MiciusPorcius It makes their lifelong exploitation slightly easier to bear.
@melonman65223 жыл бұрын
@@christinajackson2662 Not too far off from being true, can't remember which king, but there was one who specifically had armor with male genitalia on it for purely aesthetic reasons.
@demiserofd Жыл бұрын
I always liked the Alice armor. Really great example of something that's both protective AND feminine without really sacrificing either.
@Black_Konoha Жыл бұрын
Alice Zuberg?
@twinpeaks294 Жыл бұрын
@@Black_Konoha Maybe it's Alice in Wonderland, the Tim Burton version
@askmitch Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on making this video and taking the subject matter 100% seriously. First time I've heard this from a female swordfighter perspective. Insightful.
@tiffanyhendricks18603 жыл бұрын
Imagine a male character using overly exaggerated female armour (that covers the head and face) in order to attract attention and then fight those who would believe they’re fighting a woman. I’m thinking about writing something like this!
@ontariochurchstories72763 жыл бұрын
Cool idea.
@SINGEKOO3 жыл бұрын
yes! subvert expectations!
@thisberichard3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@cade57923 жыл бұрын
Having fought both men and women in armored combat, I can't think of why this would give the exaggerated female armor wearer any distinct advantage. They're a combatant, and if they have a weapon they're a threat regardless of their perceived skill or physical capability. An armed opponent is always a threat, doubly so for an armed and armored opponent. I don't mean to discourage fantasy writing, but instead I wanted offer a bit of perspective.
@pineappleink92323 жыл бұрын
thats so smart!
@KatBlaque3 жыл бұрын
Lol I should have watched this video when I was designing DeviantArt OCs in high school lol
@roniyarose94703 жыл бұрын
I feel like we watch all the same videos. I always see you in comment sections.
@BMF3963 жыл бұрын
what is this, a crossover episode?
@Shythalia3 жыл бұрын
This video was made last week.
@Ziton983 жыл бұрын
When designing Male armor you should add Schlong Armor to be historically accurate. Henry the VIII would approve.
@BologneyT3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@tR-jo2wb Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you going the extra mile and demonstrating the effects of the armor and how it may hamper certain aspects. Thank you for your hard work, this is great for concept art information.
@michelhv Жыл бұрын
I just clicked because it said “armor” in the title. Seriously, very intelligent, and you got us all watching a fine explanation that more people should heed.
@amymurlowski3 жыл бұрын
Your inability to say “get that off my chest” with a straight face is delightful.
@armartin00033 жыл бұрын
I love how Boudica herself was so irritated by modern female warrior stereotypes that she decided to reincarnate and give us a proper education on the matter.
@Cricket-zp6wi3 жыл бұрын
I wish more armorers would consider this. Modern/Kevlar armor as well as the old-fashioned stuff.
@armartin00033 жыл бұрын
@@Cricket-zp6wi Last I heard, the military in the US was investing in making Kevlar options that better fit our female troops. The reason I know about it is b/c Fox news was saying that it was part of the ongoing push towards femininity in the US military (with the strong implication that is a VERY bad thing).
@bodyshoplaboratories5013 жыл бұрын
Boudicca? Her armor was NSFW!
@JaylukKhan3 жыл бұрын
Boudica was from a society where men ran into battle with their dicks out.
@catwitdabigdog20763 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@donbalduf572 Жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed this. I did a lot of theater as a young person, so I know you are spot on about fit, weight distribution and comfort for the wearer. I never had to wear armor or wield weapons, but most of what you describe applies to other costumes as well. I’m also not a woman, but I recall very clearly the issues my female cast mates had to work out. Thanks for a good presentation and for bringing back great memories!
@johnmcconnell7052 Жыл бұрын
A video I always come back to when someone says why am I designing armor a certain way in my games. Glad you put up proper points.
@mikebliss31533 жыл бұрын
"I feel better having got all that off my chest." You are so pleased with yourself and I couldn't possibly approve of that more.
@alisonhillary3 жыл бұрын
I loved the puns too. And those moments when she lets herself give out a tiny half-laugh at her own joke? Perfect.
@GeneSv3 жыл бұрын
I always imagine girls trying to get their boobs in their armour, leaning forwards trying to get those ridicules sized boobs in those metal moulds and having it go wrong because the boobs want to lay flat on her chest rather than pushed up by the metal. I just crack up every time I see these kinds of armour.
@Ieatpaste233 жыл бұрын
Real armor isn't skin tight. Watch shadiversity on this subject.
@GeneSv3 жыл бұрын
@@Ieatpaste23 I know? I'm honestly confused as to why you would think I was talking about realistic armour.
@Caitydid5613 жыл бұрын
Just like how you're told to put on a bra to make sure it fits right! Except a lot less flexible than a bra.
@DeathnoteBB3 жыл бұрын
@@Ieatpaste23 Shadiversitu thinks the issue we have with boob armor is metal thickness
@BlatentlyFakeName3 жыл бұрын
The armour in fiction is often form fitting to look cool. In games they just wrap it around the character and make it the same shape as the naked character, because it's easier. Real historical armour is designed to have gaps under it so it can deform and not crush the wearer so you can make it all a similar shape on the outside. Not very flexible though.
@freekrill Жыл бұрын
You deserve so many more subscribers for the level of interaction you have and the quality of content you produce. It’s valuable and is heavily under-compensated
@tifat5105 Жыл бұрын
Kitties are appreciated! Just found your channel and will be watching more! Love the level of research and attention to detail.
@helpfuldrawing95103 жыл бұрын
"Yup, she's out there again." "Doing the usual thing?" "...yup."
@elsalene10443 жыл бұрын
DNKJDNKJDNK
@BevvRatBites3 жыл бұрын
Why r u peering over the fence?
@MrSlapdash2433 жыл бұрын
What is she doing with those yoghurt pots.
@BevvRatBites3 жыл бұрын
@Leon Lopez Maybe if I just wasn't so jealous of how sexy your kink is I'd be able to follow that command.
@Epicurus3413 жыл бұрын
Do the neighbours ever ask why you're in the garden dressed in cardboard and Tupperware, whilst thrusting a light-sabre about? Or do they just act like they haven't noticed anything unusual and ask to borrow some teabags? 😊 Also, "kitties"!!
@Kremit_the_Forg3 жыл бұрын
"Martha! Martha come quick! The strange women from next door finally snapped! She's wearing Tupperware! Tupperware!! And she is talking to herself!" "Oh George, don't be sil- My god, George! Poor thing... It is that virus, I tell you! Everyone is going nuts!"
@dazzlemasseur3 жыл бұрын
I would never limit what I do in my backyard for fear of "what do the neighbors think"
@conradlorgar55083 жыл бұрын
@@dazzlemasseur that's what I told the police when I decide to pick up the paper nude but some people just want to limit my freedoms, I tell you
@hotdognl702 жыл бұрын
@@dazzlemasseur You are right! What they report is more dangerous than what they think. Edit: and kitties!!! don't forget the kitties.
@reganator5000 Жыл бұрын
One thing to remember with some video-game armour (skyrim and world of warcraft are notable for doing this) is that it might just be a texture, rather than a 3d object, and so part of the issue that causes (or caused, given most AAA games don't need to save resources by doing this anymore) boob plate is that it is the exact same shape as the cloth clothing. That's why SOME examples look skin tight, because, for budget reasons it literally is just a skin- this could be improved by altering womens civilian fashion to corsets/stays which (if you avoid the super-thin waisted tight-lacing of high fashion corsets and stick to a more sensible version) don't suck in as noticeably below the chest.
@ZannNewman Жыл бұрын
the sister of battle at 16.20 is in powered armour with muscle fibres under hard plates. the two huge boob domes are purely decorative (in world the church was banned from having 'men under arms' so armed the nuns and dressed them to show it)
@justineck56643 жыл бұрын
I don't care what the topic is. I love seeing someone with real experience, not just opinions, breaking down common stereotypes in movies. Especially when they use coherent and cogent statements like you do.
@AskMia4113 жыл бұрын
Isn't it so refreshing???
@Drekromancer2 жыл бұрын
Tremendous take. I agree.
@valhatan39072 жыл бұрын
Wait, who you are referring to? I know it's been 1 year, but still 😂
@FlyingBunnycorn3 жыл бұрын
As a large-busted woman who has had to wear modern combat armor, I am always pleased to watch you go absolutely ham on these game designers that have clearly never spoken to a woman in armor. There was literally no difference between my armor and the stuff the guys wore, aside from the size I needed.
@-Devy-3 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying but as mentioned, a game designer rarely has any need to take real world limitations into consideration because unless they're specifically aiming for realism it just doesn't matter.
@miramari7323 жыл бұрын
I wonder sometimes if they know that boobs are squishy ^^. Maybe they think that they are made of plastic like on barbie doll XD. But yeah, I'm large busted lady too and as historical reenactor I wore armor. And once gambeson is on - there's no boobs at sight. Everybody just becomes rectangle ;-)
@zachanikwano3 жыл бұрын
I mean, they are designing for a fictional world. I don’t like the “sexy” armor personally but why would they have to have realistic armor in their space fantasy with magic? I mean not to mention other games in which the armor is “invisible” just so the main cast can have their chiseled faces and cool outfits always visible. If you’re going realistic design, then yes. Actually be realistic. If not, do whatever as long as it isn’t problematic.
@terron78403 жыл бұрын
They make boob armour because ita visually appealing to men the same way qomen enjoy tall muscular men. If Christian Grey was a dwarf or an obese guy, no woman would have ever watched the movie.
@RPG_Angie3 жыл бұрын
@@zachanikwano I mean, if a game had unrealistic hand mechanics where the thumb bends whichever way, you'd always consider it a mistake, right? No amount of "but it's just fantasy, it doesn't have to be realistic" argumentation would change your mind on that. It would stand out like an eye sore and break your immersion. It's kind of like that.
@maruraba1478 Жыл бұрын
Ezra Scarlet from Fairy Tail actually has decent practical armor for her default armor, she can magically switch to a whole bunch of different armors. Not a lot of extra chest maintaining the ridged look, good waist for mobility, etc.
@maube8007 Жыл бұрын
There is so much knowledge so fast, I have to watch this video in segments. For drawing, and making costumes, this is gold. Thank you.
@IsaacKuo3 жыл бұрын
Hmm ... cat armor. Pretty easy to make cat armor, I think. Just take some sturdy rectangles of steel sheet and cover them with cardboard so it looks like a cardboard box. 3D print some kitty armor and put it in the box, so the box looks like a shipping box. Voila! Cat armor! Simply open the box and remove the 3D printed kitty armor and attempt to put it on your cat. Your cat will, of course, ignore the 3D printed kitty armor and instead sit in the box. Okay, this box does not allow for cat movement, but the cat doesn't want to move so that's okay.
@ltlbuddha3 жыл бұрын
If you want a cat to use the armour, you have to make it for someone else.
@autumncosandaffect97353 жыл бұрын
@@ltlbuddha and make it out of something that you don't want them near.. Velvet?
@ltlbuddha3 жыл бұрын
@@autumncosandaffect9735 Velvet and velco
@WardNightstone3 жыл бұрын
i have seen actual examples of cat and dog armor it's not dissimilar to horse armor
@EternalDensity3 жыл бұрын
Kitties!
@slhpproductions67072 жыл бұрын
When I was in the military, (not the American military) I had a specific role that boils down to 'person with a grenade launcher'. We had different vests that were designed to have a lot more pockets on the sides (for said grenades) and it was really difficult to move in because it was so big and cumbersome, it restricted my range of motion when getting on the ground especially because it layered over my hips and crotch. Then I noticed that my other female friend's vests, who had regular guns, cut off right before the belt, which was a lot more comfortable and I realized- I was wearing a male vest designed only for men with a longer torso than me. They just didn't design a female version of the grenade launcher vest. It was really annoying and probably contributed to my back injury so yeah, armor design is super important.
@garethbaus54712 жыл бұрын
They didn't even have a shorter male vest? Short men are a real thing and it seems like a bad idea to provide equipment that seriously reduces mobility regardless of gender.
@jfarrar192 жыл бұрын
Surprised it didn't come in the standard size: too small
@slhpproductions67072 жыл бұрын
@@jfarrar19 oh no hanny it was huge, and I'm not a small person at all, I'm a big butch girl and it was still somehow too big and ill fitted
@robadc2 жыл бұрын
I never had the curiosity to look up grenadier kit before. Wow that's a lot of pockets. Must have been popular for carrying nicknacks
@slhpproductions67072 жыл бұрын
@@robadc mostly chocolate bars
@hungariangiraffe6361 Жыл бұрын
If I created a fantasy world, I would surely say that there are two types of armours: 1. The practical. This is used in battles for both genders, it's all about protection, the look is absolutely the last thing that is considered in the producing. 2. The decorative. This is used on parades, sometimes on weddings and by diplomats. So when good look is important. Not strong, makes moving pretty hard, but beautiful. And since it was never made for war, practical purposes don't matter, it's basically like an elegant suit. Warriors on paintings would be wearing those. But it still covers the whole body so it doesn't look ridiculous.
@fredscholpp5838 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jill, I loved this! I kept finding myself vigorously nodding to all the points you make. I'm an armourer, and to date I have made 4-5 breast plates for women. two are really silly, one inspired by ancient Greek bronze armour, the other by Ancient Celtic bronze. The two that were serious are based on early 17th century armour but modified to protect female employees at the museum I work in, but to NOT look feminine. On the latter two, I think you'd say I covered all the major issues. The first two... :) well they are pretty. (first time visitor to your channel, but I will view more! )
@KaiseaWings3 жыл бұрын
To illustrate the mobility issue: Take one of those artist mannequins and try to move the arms across the chest. Yeah.
@o00nemesis00o3 жыл бұрын
Or take one of those artist mannequins and try to do pretty much anything with it, like bending a leg more than 70°. They suck.
@Verbose_Mode3 жыл бұрын
Regular plate armor has a dome that is hard to put your arm across your body.
@KaiseaWings3 жыл бұрын
@@o00nemesis00o Won't get an argument from me here but I mean I have one of those figma anime drawing figures with decent proportions and the chest still gets in the way.
@shenai21873 жыл бұрын
@@Verbose_Mode Except that the dome is in the middle of the body, whereas the boobs are on the side, getting in the way a lot more/earlier than the dome does. As she demonstrated very well.
@randomguy-tg7ok3 жыл бұрын
So in short, "Don't be dumb and just use regular armour" _unless_ you're designing for a noblewoman who wants to stand out, in which case accentuate it a bit, while remembering that Anime Logic does not apply to real life.
@ilikecookies2303 жыл бұрын
But what if anime though?
@randomguy-tg7ok3 жыл бұрын
If it's anime, why would they be watching this video?
@WookieWarriorz3 жыл бұрын
or you do whatever the fuck you want when creating art there are no rules. the boobs in the armour looks dope doesnt matter if its not realistic to me
@keltzy3 жыл бұрын
@@WookieWarriorz I mean, personally I think super boob-centric armor looks really silly, but that's just me. I do think the point is, though, if you want to avoid breaking suspension of disbelief (and have a stronger overall character design, if that matters to you) then make sure the armor you put your character in is practical for her situation. But if you're just drawing a picture for the sake of looking cool/sexy/whatevs, then you do you.
@raptorreagan27733 жыл бұрын
I think a woman with extra large breasts would need an adjustment in the chest area, as Shadiversity pointed in his last video. I don’t a regular chest plate is practical enough for women with DD+ bra sizes.
@agent6567 Жыл бұрын
While I don't know much about armor or weaponry in a practical sense, I feel that this is good to know for writing and costume design.
@Stevofaves Жыл бұрын
As a character designer, this video is great! I mean it's great for anyone who's interested, but it's awesome hearing the breakdowns of the actual engineering.
@BarbarianGod3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the point about breathing, I assume that's why solid metal chest pieces often have a large stomach area, you kinda want to be breathing properly with your stomach/diaphragm if you're running around in heavy armor
@rylie89893 жыл бұрын
I think it's more deflection purposes? Like you definitely want breathing space all over, plus in strenuous combat people will be breathing with their chest, so the stomach having more space than the chest is I think just more optimal for getting blows to bounce off
@Komaru.893 жыл бұрын
Breathing is super important. The first time I fought in armor, it was borrowed, and while armor itself gave me room to breath, the arming vest underneath turned out to be too tight, so I had to take it off as soon as my fights were over so I could breathe better.
@insanitysportal66923 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Yes, breathing is good and many breath from the stomach, so some expansion there is a Good Thing, but also: full plate armors were normally only affordable by the nobility and the nobility also tended to be the only ones that ate really well. Thus, the propensity (but not certainty) that nobles would have larger stomachs, thus requiring more accommodation... TL;DR: the only people that could afford fancy armor also tended to be fat. So fancy armor was made for fat people (and I'm using fat as a relative term here, a lot of it was muscle UNDER fat, but that doesn't change the expansive girth. Also: certainly not obese or exceptionally fat by today's standards...more "Dad-Bod"-ish)
@rylie89893 жыл бұрын
@@insanitysportal6692 meh plenty of people eat well without getting fat, especially if they exercise a lot as a warrior would. Also there was cheaper plate armor that was accessible to not noble men at arms, scholagladiatoria did a video talking about it at some point
@tsoliot59133 жыл бұрын
@@seekingabsolution1907 people had big hands in the past too. You can't assume.
@andrews43213 жыл бұрын
If your armor doesn't prevent you from getting stabbed or bashed in the vital bits, that's a good sign that you need to go back to the drawing board.
@mirandak72423 жыл бұрын
very wise words😂
@arachnophilia4273 жыл бұрын
exception not mentioned above: gladiator armor. it's the opposite of functional armor, designed to protect limbs and such that would be non-fatal match ending injuries, but leaving the vital bits completely unprotected for the rare and dramatic sudden deaths. we actually have historical, contemporary depictions of gladiatrix armor: they fought topless. (and were pretty rare and generally regarded as a travesty)
@TheWelshDwarf3 жыл бұрын
@@arachnophilia427 don't forget that certain Celtic tribes engaged the Romans in battle naked, Nordic berserkers are also an example.
@pvshka3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWelshDwarf pretty sure nordic berserker are actually more of a myth
@ToabyToastbrot3 жыл бұрын
Also arrows are a thing. And thrown spears. Any number of projectiles...
@DanielCoffey67 Жыл бұрын
I remember a few years ago Skallagrim did a video on female "fantasy" armour and used his partner as a demonstration. For some reason the video got removed. I don't know if he got complaints or whether he wasn't happy with the result but the two of them were in stitches demonstrating the problems with "fantasy" armour together.
@remixtheidiot57713 жыл бұрын
What I took away from this video: If you are a man, cross dress and wear female armor if you want people to hit you more and your actual female friends less.
@mittfh3 жыл бұрын
Bonus points if it's very lightweight (so it's not going to make you significantly more top heavy), you're not primarily using swords or pikes (so the faux cleavage doesn't get in your way), and the faux cleavage is "generously proportioned" (to draw maximum attention). Heck, with a little imagination, the cavities could be used to store spare batteries or fuel cells for your energy weapon... Of course, you'd need to be relatively short and slim - if you're over 1.8m (6') tall and have lots of musculature, it's going to be rather more difficult to pull off the illusion.
@thallienwhite32793 жыл бұрын
Have ever heard the story of the amateur boxer that had a secret obsession with cross dressing. Some street thug tried to rob "her" and got sent to the bone yard! Your comment reminded of that.
@johannageisel53903 жыл бұрын
Sooo, when you join the Kyoshi Warriors, you should wear their traditional clothing.
@TimoRutanen3 жыл бұрын
Could win you a fight, but all your fighting mates would look at you sideways. Tough call, I'd say.
@thewickedzaku3 жыл бұрын
Oh... I took it as an instructional video for women interested in wearing armor.
@xidarian3 жыл бұрын
Women in the military have been complaining about body armor fit if they have a large bust for years. The US Air Force just started offering body armor tailored for women and large busts were one of the considerations. While it doesn't end up looking like boob armor wearing men's armor is known to be uncomfortable for some women. But in general you are right that women can wear the same body armor.
@GameFreak77443 жыл бұрын
Good old 'one size doesn't really fit anybody'.
@TheGuindo3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the "one shape fits everyone" military practice has a long sour history with busty servicemembers. The standard BDU is not tailored or belted or cinched at the waist in any way, so the everyday uniform turns everyone who wears it into a big shapeless rectangle. My favorite story about this is that one of my mom's army buddies was very busty and a big bust in BDU = an especially fat rectangle, and her sergeant kept telling her to "lose some weight" because of how big it made her look. She finally got fed up with it and went up to him one day off-duty wearing a teeny little tank top that showed off her hourglass figure and asked him "which one do you want me to cut off?" Embarrassed him so badly he never brought it up again, lmfao.
@HIPEOPLE18873 жыл бұрын
@@TheGuindo if AngryCops is to be believed, one size fits all doesn’t even work for the men at times
@architectofdreams733 жыл бұрын
@@HIPEOPLE1887 cause that is a statistical truth, but obviously not always. It really should be considered as "one size fits most" as some clothing is labeled as such.
@emberrivers18893 жыл бұрын
I think she mentions something like that, at 1:50 ish. Idk anything about this^^ just interesting
@masonolivo5909 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how much influence wasp-waist had on the masculine body standards of the time. It actually became kinda masculine to have wide hips because it allowed a knight to wear heavier armor, or at least bear the weight of their armor easier. This is at least my understanding of this particular phenomenon.
@davidwcooney3 ай бұрын
I just came across this video and completely agree. Even as a teenage boy, I thought boob armor was stupid for fighting even if it looked great on the covers of books. The only boob armor I saw that was actually perfect was precisely because it was designed for a woman who was going to be sacrificed. The artist portrayed it as described in the book (Azure Bonds).
@sarahscott53053 жыл бұрын
I'm a little bit distracted by your absolutely gorgeous hair. Jealous? Says who?! I'm not jealous. Why would you even bring that up?!
@zoomane3 жыл бұрын
Same tho, I want that hair
@robertwilliams25203 жыл бұрын
I'm a dude and I swear, I'm not jealous either....
@zeash4823 жыл бұрын
@@robertwilliams2520 im a dude and i have hair like that so...
@alishaanimations30583 жыл бұрын
Hey! Search up vanilla-healthier hair :D
@sarahscott53053 жыл бұрын
@@zeash482 Curse you and your luscious locks!
@nicobones96083 жыл бұрын
Suddenly I'm having a hilarious idea for a DnD character who is a female knight who's self-conscious about the fact that she's small-chested (as is common for hardcore athletes) and thus wears armor to make her breasts appear far larger. Lol.
@adamcarroll96133 жыл бұрын
Depending on the severity of insecurity, it'd be a historically accurate use case, especially if they're a sort who doesn't end up in front line combat much.
@TFalconwing3 жыл бұрын
That's Cordelia from Fire Emblem Awakening. I'm not even joking
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a gender flipped version of my WoD Ventrue who overcompensated with an grotesquely large codpiece on his armor. I would try to annoy other players by making him brag by reciting his entire aristocratic lineage and make others roll for willpower to tune out or interrupt him otherwise I would read the whole thing.
@trikepilot1013 жыл бұрын
David Eddings does something similar in "The Belgariad." A princess wants some armour to make war-like speaches in but the armourer makes armour that actuallly fits her and she asks him to remodel it so the crowds know she is the princess and not some boy. He says "Ok, but not clear out to here!" and she replies "I rely on your good taste."
@ChrisCaramia3 жыл бұрын
@@trikepilot101 Ce'Nedra. If I remember right, the book cover shows her with chest turrets when the armor actually delivered had a rounded shelf. Sweater Puppies for the algorithm!
@maddiwrites1409 Жыл бұрын
I do a lot of character design, for my own characters and my friend's characters. I also enjoy redesigning movie/book character armor. For my own characters, I tend to go off of characters like Bo-Katan Kryze, Black Widow, or Sabine Wren, armor-wise. One of my first really good characters has some armor that I based a lot off of what I saw in this video last year. One year later, I've come back to this video to find that I followed these instructions to heart, especially with my other newer characters.
@alecelliott7506 Жыл бұрын
Watching this video has made me realize how effective different types of armor would be in a narrative sense. The type of armor that characters wear could say a lot about their character. A character more committed to learning to fight would wear more gender unspecific armor while a character that holds more value in the way others view them might wear armor with slight disadvantages but looks prettier or more masculine. Good video!
@theonewhoknocks14123 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile warrior women in any fantasy game: *ARMORED BIKINI*
@MiloDC3 жыл бұрын
Which is perfectly fine, because practicality is never the most important factor in a game. (Neither should it be.)
@talizorahnarrayya59163 жыл бұрын
Not advocating for armor bikini, I find them ridiculous, you don't need to show 90% skin to have a "sexy" Armor if you really want one, but sometime fantasy CAN get away with it in term of utility if the armor bikini is enchanted or has warding spell or thing like that.
@Gerald-of-Riviera3 жыл бұрын
I adore The Witcher 3, but if you got the GOTY edition their is an option to turn on a unique set of clothes/armor for three important characters, one being Ciri and her unique armor leaves her stomach COMPLETELY open. It's one thing for a sorceress, it's another for someone who actively fights monsters and beings from another world.
@talizorahnarrayya59163 жыл бұрын
@@Gerald-of-Riviera to be fair ciri does have her elder blood magic, but yeah, one thing for a sorceress, another for a Witcher
@ginnyjollykidd3 жыл бұрын
Man fan service.
@ggsj3 жыл бұрын
As an amateur worldbuilder and writer who is creating something where warrior women are really important, I just loved to see this coming from a woman. Thank you very much. You just got another fan and subscriber. PS: I'm also a design student, and you point out several things that are really relevant. Things that can completely ruin a project if one ignores them. Thank you for this, too.
@jarlnils4353 жыл бұрын
You should also not forget why mostly men fought. A young woman who dies on the Battlefield is a greater loss than a man. She can't give birth to some future children and can't protects or feed her maby already born children. Women were mostly there to give birth and to protect the children. Because children are the future for every tribe or state. Men are stronger build and were there to protect the women and children and do all the dangerous tasks like building, hunting, fighting. Also, even if it sounds cruel or something, how many children can a man have in his live? Hundreds or thousands. How many can a women have? At max 30. If you look at births there are more males than females. At the age of 30 it is the opposit. In our nature woman would chose a man who is able to protect her and her future children. They chose powerfull men. Men who can offer protection or a good live. Men on the other hand try to get the attantion of women with exactly that. And how do you show that you are a man who can offer protection and a good live? You do dangerous stuff! Like hunting and war. And that's why at the age of 30 from the original larger group of men are less alive than women. To be a woman in the middle ages was hard and such, yes. But they lived longer than their husbands or even sons most of the time.
@ggsj3 жыл бұрын
@@jarlnils435 Some of your pointers may raise some people's eyebrows, but they're valid in more than one way, even if it's a part of reality I don't really like, since I'm kind of an advocate for equity. I've been exploring this kind of subject from another angle, with a species that were like this in the past (overly agressive males, always fighting to build harems of passive females, who were tasked with reproductive and domestic duties, etc.), but was suddenly forced into a matriarchal social structure because there are too few males now and they are forbidden to do dangerous tasks, taking roles as breeders, craftsmen (which both genders can be) and insctructors for the young ones. But the problem is, I still didn't manage to "fine tune" it to a level I'm satisfied with. It seems I'll have to do more research and explore these facts you kindly reminded me of. Thank you.
@jarlnils4353 жыл бұрын
@@ggsj maby you should watch some videos from Lindybeige for that. He has a large content about history, fighting, ancient warfare and warfare generally, but also about this. Don't get me wrong for my first comment. I am for equality, but only in terms of law. I'm german and our law says men and women are before the law equal. That is sadly not working. But instead this law more to push into use, our politicans make extra laws for women. That's not equal. That's throwing mony out of the window. But nobody can say men and women are absolutely equal in all things. Than we wouldn't be men and women.
@ggsj3 жыл бұрын
@@jarlnils435 Thanks for the tip, I'll check those videos as soon as I'm able. And I didn't judge you at all. Even if I'm no historian or anything I'm pretty aware that culture back then was like this (and still is in more places and contexts that I'd wish they existed), and I've made a central point as an aspiring artist and thinker to not run from realities I don't really like. Those pointers are that kind of unpleasant truth that we'll do more harm by running from than facing them (did this phrase/wording even makes sense?). And if you think things are ugly in Germany, I'll tell you I'm from Brazil. Trust me, it's waaaaay worse here. To simplify it, grab what you don't like about it in Germany and crank it up to twelve and this will give a hint of how hypocritical things are here... Again, thanks for the tips.
@Peter_Parker3613 жыл бұрын
@@jarlnils435 I'm also from Germany but I don't get what you mean by "the laws are not working". I hope you're not talking about the alleged "Gender Pay Gap". Because otherwise I totally agree with everything you said.
@32a34a Жыл бұрын
Gal herself has even stated that the bottom piece of her uniform was not the most comfortable. How they got it to be more comfortable is a funny story in of itself which she described in an interview.
@ShadeAssault Жыл бұрын
Having done a wayyy too in-depth report on Roman armor a long time ago... so far in-depth my professor made me cut 3/4 of the armor and all the weapons from it, I appreciate this. Both hilarious and informative.
@Georg_krøger3 жыл бұрын
The costume designer for the mandalorian is a woman. She approved ironhead studios armor for bo katan. Besides beskar is thin armor, it needs to be tight.
@andryuu_20003 жыл бұрын
Yes, at least Star Wars is not historically inspired, therefore not that realistic
@Georg_krøger3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah i agree, but my comment was just to make it clear for thoose who complained about it in the mandalorian (:
@Georg_krøger3 жыл бұрын
@Delta 38 yeah exectly
@Georg_krøger3 жыл бұрын
@Delta 38 *exactly
@michael29683 жыл бұрын
dont let facts get in the way of a feminist rant...
@ianalexander76623 жыл бұрын
One aspect you didn't mentioned (or I missed) is most people who have never worn armor often don't realize the weight isn't what's going to kill you; it's the heat. I've worn plate, I've worn chain. I spent a year in Afghanistan wearing modern armor. While weight is always an issue, add big boob armor is creating more surface area for the sun to heat up. And heat is a killer. Doing SCA stuff, you could always tell which way the wind was blowing because those not fighting would always be turned towards it to help cool themselves off. Also on your point about skirts, well as anyone whose been in Afghanistan or Iraq (or any of those types of places) the people wear MORE clothing rather than less. This is to keep the sun off them (also to trap the evaporating sweat to make it more useful) So most folks back in the day wore tabards and I'm sure you are very well aware of this. My point is the cut or fabric or design of something like that can help ID the person if needed. (I always hate when I hear people say, "well they can't wear helmets; who would know who anyone was? Duh! That's what shield devices and all that heraldry was for!) Anyway, so many fantasy female armor just up and creates more nooks and crannies for the sun to shine on and thus heat up the fighter. Not good. Like the need to give room for the warrior to breath, you need enough give to allow moisture out which is already tough given you're probably wearing some form of t-shirt under your gambeson/uniform under all the armor. So yeah, skin tight armor is a disaster in that way too. Not to mention the smell! Ugh! Being in a HUMVEE with three others for 8 hours in the heat is something better left imagined and never experienced. I am happy you pointed out about how many fantasy armor with no under protection would result in a LOT of burns. So true!
@KRistos20x62 жыл бұрын
Part of the reason the people of the Middle East and Central Asia wear long clothes is because of the influence of religion in those regions. Compare their clothes to the traditional garb of the (arguably hotter) sub-saharan parts of Africa.
@ledocteur77012 жыл бұрын
there was a group of actors that specialized in reproducing medieval fighting scenes that visited my school once, they had the horses and everything. he was going over a lot of explanations and I actually got to wear a chainmail for demonstration purposes, it was way too large for my small kid body, and I was far from being any level of strong. the weight was easily bearable, and it was very comfortable over a simple T-shirt.
@DanielWilliams-oi4ss2 жыл бұрын
Humidity is big factor here. If it's hot and humid, covering up is less good. Hot and dry more cloth can be beneficial.
@AskMia4112 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! It’s good to have input from people who’ve actually had to wear armor, because it adds levels of detail and realism! Higher surface area = really warm hadn’t occurred to me, so that is very helpful knowledge!
@pasikuisma19482 жыл бұрын
@@KRistos20x6 people in sub saharan africa are also black. Very black. You go there champ & come and tell me whether light white clothing with full covering or traditional clothing from the place suits you better !
@hanachelache66 Жыл бұрын
This is the video I never knew I needed! My husband and I are writing a comic at the moment, and the main character's costume has armored plating on. I was wondering how the heck we're going to do this, because she's a naturally bigger girl (she has super strength as a power). This has helped me understand what she should look like and what would be practical.
@leshyaedawnfire Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up in the SCA, I've always preferred speed over power when fighting. But I also prefer to keep my enemies at a distance and not get hit if I can help it. So my armor preferences lean towards high mobility and range of motion. It all stems from the fact that I have a very low pain tolerance.
@andresrivera16383 жыл бұрын
I like how sometimes your accent is really thick and sometimes you can’t hear it.
@spuddart35403 жыл бұрын
Ikr. I genuinely have no clue at this stage what country she's even from.
@maddie96023 жыл бұрын
@@spuddart3540 I think she mentioned at one point being from Northern Ireland? Don't quote me on that.
@duncandl9103 жыл бұрын
@@maddie9602 sounds northern Irish to me
@sandyholmerin29253 жыл бұрын
My suggestion is that we need less plate and more diversity in our armour choices. Like you pointed out, there are so many options!
@johnrichards244 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe this is an actual video with all the things going on in the world. But I did like it.
@AutyClown Жыл бұрын
Got brought here from shorts. I had no idea armour was as complicated as this, think I’m about to enter a KZbin rabbit hole. Fantastic video, love the content!
@vincegonzalez21713 жыл бұрын
I'm just imaging someone drinking hot tea on a cold Scottish day, and looking outside their window, only to see Jill doing a series of stiff lightsaber swings while wearing a giant plastic bra. EDIT: You guys might be right that she's Northern Irish, I was just guessing. Let's settle on UK.
@tyree90553 жыл бұрын
I'd watch... I'll let you'll figure if it's her sword technique, her physique, or the wierd clothing combination that got my attention! 🤣
@anarchclown3 жыл бұрын
@@tyree9055 All of the above?
@JimMorrisonLoL3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking, but all I see is Edinburgh Castle 🤷🏼♂️
@Pantherblack3 жыл бұрын
"Oi Agnes... Jill's at it again!"
@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc3 жыл бұрын
I'm laughing at the thought.
@nivekian3 жыл бұрын
Mandalorian armor got a lot of design help by women cosplaying in groups like the 501st and Mandalorian Mercs, people wearing gear, on growed floors & various other exercises. They have fictional narrative help because it's Star Wars, but you can see in the very functional design that Women and Man Mandos gear is movement plausible and makes them visually standing.
@adenkyramud50052 жыл бұрын
The good thing about mandos is that men and women are so equal that there aren't even different words for mother and father, or son and daughter. Just one word for each. That means that both men and women go out to fight wars, and both wear armor basically all the time. It's even part of the resol'nare, the six things that make you mandalorian. So the armor has evolved over many generations to be basically as practical as it can be while still following traditional design. With obvious design choices made by each individual Mando because the armor is a mando's way of expressing themselves. Imo probably the coolest fictional armor in media.
@Andrewtr62 жыл бұрын
Yet there were still those who had a problem with the female Mandalorians having "booob armor" ignoring that the male armor has a pec indent.
@The_Lucent_Archangel2 жыл бұрын
The Mandalorians as a rule were utterly focused and devoted to a core set of ideals. The fact that they didn't draw gendered distinctions or the like isn't something you should imprint asinine contemporary first world thinking onto, because in such a mercilessly martial society the key takeaway is that anyone able-bodied and committed can be forged into a warrior. It's not some glimpse into utopian egalitarianism, especially considering that even the Mandos came to realize that constant warfare and strife was unsustainable in the long term - hence the attempted reforms which led to them becoming far more insular and less combat-driven (in the mainstream anyway). It has some parallels to say the Klingons in Trek, who went from imperialistic expansion to a more liberalized but still tradition-heavy way of life to include peace accords with a longtime adversary on their border. I do of course refer to them in the classical sense, and not the garbage reinterpretation retcons carried out in recent years. Interestingly both groups also wear armor into battle - but I'd have to say Mando Beskar is far and away better than the (duranium?) that the Klingons use in theirs. Then again, I'd be curious to see how well Beskar would hold up against the dense antiproton burst/beam of a disruptor or the nadion pulses of a phaser. Rebels did make it out that a teenage Mando chick was able to render Beskar essentially moot with a WMD that would fry other Mandos inside their armor. Pretty disturbing stuff.
@Bearical2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Lucent_Archangel What I like about the Mandalorian female warriors is that they actually behave like women. Alot of female warriors in fiction are basically men with a female body. Men and women are different, but both can fight.
@ianesgrecia85682 жыл бұрын
@@Bearical And that is a bad trend in today holiwood. Instead of making an actual strong independent female character, they make a male character and genderswap. And not ANY male character. The very egocentric insulting male character that people don't actually care for. It's like they never saw Alien with Rippley. Or Ororo and Rogue from X-men, or Mulan from the original tales. All which actually are proud to be female and embrace their emotions and feminine side. Just once I wished to see a male protagonist with a more 'feminine personality' like an empathetic and kind person. If anyone has suggestions i'd love it.
@chadhiggins8397 Жыл бұрын
Here is a comment so that KZbin thanks I am more engaged in your. It is not that I am not engaged in your channel, but I don't have that much to say. After all, what criticism could I offer you when you are already so good at this! As far as compliments go I could say that it usually puts a smile on my face to see your enthusiasm for almost anything you talk about. Keep up the good work. 😊
@gregbetts5092 Жыл бұрын
Gosh, that was thorough and well thought out… The thing is, whether for Hollywood or gaming, the purpose for armor is not to protect those who battle in actual combat, but to make them look good in fake combat. Actors, make or female, cast for leads in these projects are not chosen for their androgyny. To hire Chris Hemsworth or Scarlet Johansson and then hide their physical assets makes no sense. These aren’t documentaries… If one finds it sexist to want a hero or heroine to be visually appealing, you’re entitled to that perspective, but why expect characters in a fantasy fiction to be provide icons for “real life” gender identity? But to the maker of the video: we’ll done! From the perspective that you took, you created an informative and engaging video. Thank you!
@Drawnonstop_3 жыл бұрын
This girl: Breathing is important! My swim coach: that’s a funny joke
@sammarino73573 жыл бұрын
I’m a boy but same just same
@flappysquirrel51323 жыл бұрын
...no, your swim coach would agree. Breathing is important! We just happen to practice controlled breathing... often.
@flappysquirrel51323 жыл бұрын
@Juju Schrader ...so was mine. ;)
@WhiteWolf-lm7gj3 жыл бұрын
Please, it's not like breathing is important to maintaining life or anything
@silviasanchez6483 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Yeah, breathing is overrated
@beesforbreakfast3 жыл бұрын
Skeezy Hollywood armourer sleazes up to a woman at a bar. “Hey baby, you fancy some chaefing, thrush, or both?”
@JillBearup3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@KBTibbs3 жыл бұрын
Feels like this is a result of "Truth in advertising" laws, so... here for it.
@gibbzy88gaming Жыл бұрын
I design sci fi armour as part of a novel series im working on and I like to make as much of it as realistic as possible which includes the design and versatility of the armour. I have quite an understanding of what males need in armour design, since I am one, but the needs for females in terms of design is something im not well versed in so this video was a big help, thanks!
@Capitan0Guinea Жыл бұрын
female samurai and ninja had same armour of their male counterpart and they did work great. the only difference were sometimes a lighter protection on the shoulders to reduce weight on the arms for swinging blows at same ease of male warriors
@BrackishBrit3 жыл бұрын
Welp, guess it's time to add a secret order of female paladins to my D&D setting who nobody knows are women because their armour and helmets are designed sensibly. Thanks for the idea, Jill! Edit: Well this kinda blew up! From what writing I've done since yesterday is that they are sworn to silence and have some means of communicating telepathically with their sisters. They are few in number, exceptionally skilled and are effectively religious special forces rather than a regiment or something that could be fielded in a pitched battle. Hope that helps anyone else with a similar thought!
@DeadNotSleeping7893 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me stealing the idea I may have to do the same
@AskMia4113 жыл бұрын
YAAAS DO IT!!!! I must request an Eowyn moment at some point though.
@charlesherbig45023 жыл бұрын
Well, sensible armor will allow the freedom of movement necessary for your paladins to stomp a puppy to get that last XP for the next level.
@leadpaintchips94613 жыл бұрын
Why secretly women? I'm pretty sure that outside of the battlefield, they'd be caught out. But having an order that doesn't announce that they're female and no one understands why their god specifically called that order that way would be super interesting, and could lead to some very fascinating roleplay.
@AskMia4113 жыл бұрын
@@leadpaintchips9461 unless they go the mandolorian route and they never take their helmets/armor off in the presence of others. Which sounds cool to me!
@TheLordofMetroids3 жыл бұрын
One extra point that is mostly forgotten about is the question of how the person is acquiring the armor. If they are a wealthy landlord of some sort, or an adventurer, they can design their armor personally, based on their own aesthetics. If they are a member of an organization, their armor is designed to fit all comers, and this is what you wear. The lord or commander doesn't give a crap if soldier 482 looks good in their armor. If they want something that fits their form better, pay for it their own bloody self. I hate the "spot the main character," game when everyone in the story should have roughly been given the same armor.
@CaptainKeen3 жыл бұрын
Eh, the main character usually seem to at least be high ranking enough to get something special, or freelance adventurers. Rarely are they soldier 482, though for somebody writing that kind of story this would be a good way to emphasize it.
@Olav_Hansen3 жыл бұрын
If you are wearing plate it is awfully likely that it was made to your shape, since plate is kind of a bitch if it's not tailormade. As for other armor, unless you got it from a liege/robbed it of a corpse/had it as family heirloom it is quite likely that it at least got some adjustments when you made the purchase. Most armor is relatively modular, so you could get away with a lot of body shapes. Although I severely question how feminine one will look when there's thick padding with mail over it.
@FoxBox72 Жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no idea why this came up on my suggested videos feed. But it did, and I found it fascinating. Thanks !
@steven.events Жыл бұрын
I believe my recent search, for Argonauts, is the reason in my case.
@teresaellis7062 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you talked about corsets versus armor. Hollywood seems very confused about what a corset actually is.
@AndrewD8Red3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid you'll find that armour must i repeat MUST be perfectly contoured to the curves of the armourers ideal woman. Bonus protection is provided by the addition of extra nipples. IE. The Bat-Nipples Principle.
@JillBearup3 жыл бұрын
Bat Butts are also a necessity. (nods sagely)
@wisdommanari67013 жыл бұрын
GRRM has a term in ASOIAF that something is as useful as nipples on a breastplate. Aka Totally fucking useless. But yes bat nipples are indeed a must lmao
@Gauldame3 жыл бұрын
If we could only develop the technology to construct an armor completely of bat nipples, the wearer would be unkillable.
@olesams3 жыл бұрын
Well it`s logical. If curved shapes provide better protection then it is only logical that two more curves on the same breastplate increases the armor value! Plate armor - AC18 "My character is female" -AC 20
@Sembazuru3 жыл бұрын
Extra nipples? Like how many extra? 10?
@mrtalos3 жыл бұрын
Things I like. This woman knows her stuff, she understands how sometimes it is about the look, can be critical where it counts, uses fantastic examples. Things I don't like. How I've only now just found this channel. Brilliant work
@jeremyfeldmann79692 жыл бұрын
try the video by shad it cover it a little better she did a good job but he did it just a little better
@moemuxhagi2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfeldmann7969 well shad had a trolgy of 30 min videos, this is just one 20 min video, of course he said more
@jeremyfeldmann79692 жыл бұрын
@@moemuxhagi which why he does a little more of in depth. Look at it.
@pauloazuela84882 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyfeldmann7969 But I like that there's a female one speaking through. Since It's interesting to know it from a woman herself. Not saying Shad is wrong but it adds credibility too. I do watch that time with Shad a year ago 2times
@-grey Жыл бұрын
This was the funniest way to educate on a thing I never thought about or noticed. ✌️😂
@jonathansteppig4116 Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about some of this stuff lately, but you even covered things that I hadn't considered. I appreciate the sober approach you took to the topic.
@KM-rt5jj3 жыл бұрын
"Let's not add to a generously endowed woman's troubles" Hear hear
@maddiedoesntkno3 жыл бұрын
“Metal on skin is distinctly un-fun” Just ask Carrie Fisher, poor thing. (Also, KItties!
@jesusleyva43863 жыл бұрын
I miss Carrie Fisher. She was so funny
@vinnie6663 жыл бұрын
but there are no bras in space! it's just science!
@JoybuzzerX3 жыл бұрын
Her's wasn't armor and who cares about their sex slave being comfortable? :p
@pollyflores4183 жыл бұрын
@@JoybuzzerX I think it’s more about the actress being comfortable, like Jill mentioned. And the audience, if I might add.
@LucyWest3703 жыл бұрын
I thought that metal on skin wasn’t an actual thing, they put fluff on the inside of the armor to make it more comfortable
@pfurman69 Жыл бұрын
This video has been out for a year and shows up. Don't know why. Don't care. This was very entertaining and informative. 18:46 NOT wasted. Great job 👍🏻👍🏻
@gatubraz9425 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why this got recommended to me, I don't know why I clicked and watched the whole video, but it was a good video
@John73John3 жыл бұрын
Kitties! My thoughts on boob armor: Just don't. Your purpose on the battlefield is killing the bad guys and not getting killed yourself. Design the armor around that. When you're NOT on the battlefield, that's when you should wear what you want to look sexy if that's your thing. My auto mechanic wears greasy overalls when he works on my car but he wears nice-looking clothes when he and his wife go out to dinner. Same concept.
@Graendal3 жыл бұрын
It's shocking to me how infrequently people bring this concept up... like... Do you go to the Gym in a full suit or the office in gym shorts? Oh whats that, you're a sane person and actually wear clothing appropriate for the circumstance? Yeah, fictional characters should probably do the same thing. And that is not even mentioning the fact that armor is designed to protect you from attempts to make you not alive, not conscious, or not able bodied anymore; either from the elements or from those that are ACTIVELY attempting to make that happen. Why would you willingly give them an advantage by wearing impractical armor, or no armor at all? You are going into Battle, going into a massive competition with the highest possible stakes; choosing to wear flashy but impractical armor is like playing Texas Holdem, but only you can't use the river card. Except... for more than just money.
@mitchryan2573 жыл бұрын
It’s fantasy, the majority of the armor is unrealistic.
@PippetWhippet3 жыл бұрын
Go have a look at Henry VIII's armour! But then I guess he wasn't exactly on the battlefield to fight, so the huge... protrusion falls under the "wear what you want to look sexy" category i guess! Though it's very true that most medieval men enjoyed extraordinarily waspish waists as their look, and they certainly did translate that to their armour, albeit with an optical illusion - the waist was normal sized and the chest was huge and barrelled. I suppose you have to consider that before the concept of "total war", or at least, in between it's applications, battle was a gentleman's game, and most knights were captured by an enemy who treated them as a lord until a ransom was paid, so hardly the same stakes as your mechanic. More like your mechanic when he goes hunting - he doesn't need to catch anything to feed his family, so it doesn't matter that all his gear is "urban soldier" and not actually good camouflage in the woods, but he can go home empty handed without his family starving, he's only there to drink beers with his mates so practicality can give way to fashion.
@EduardoLopez-oo7vk3 жыл бұрын
Well boob plates don’t actually offer any disadvantage people who say it directs the attack towards the center of your chest don’t actually know anything about armor if someone attacks the initial striking point is going to absorb most of the blow and if it does get directed to the center of your chest it’s going to slightly push you back
@rokronroff3 жыл бұрын
My mechanic wears a thong and crop top when he works on my car. To each their own.
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey3 жыл бұрын
Me, nodding sagely at this video: "Ahh yes, anatomy. Hmm, historical accuracy, so true." Also me, playing as Noelle in Genshin Impact: "Haha! Stiletto heel maid knight go brrr!"
@mariosuarez66563 жыл бұрын
*happy Bless armor pack mod for skyrim se noises*
@andryuu_20003 жыл бұрын
As long as you don't believe boob armor is historically accurate, it's fine, it's hard to say no to good looking girls
@WhisperingAila3 жыл бұрын
historically accurate? no. stylish and fun? heck yeah. when you have magic powers and abilities, you kinda just . . . don't care about armor. that's kinda why cultures like native americans, vikings, and britons just didn't care about armor. if you survived, your rites were correct and your favor and magic was strong. if you died, hey, you get the mead hall!
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey3 жыл бұрын
@@WhisperingAila Any kind of armor on my lv. 90 Noelle tank build is entirely decorative anyways... Like Superman wearing a bullet proof vest.
@Black.Spades3 жыл бұрын
@@WhisperingAila They didn't wear metal armour over their whole body. That doesn't mean their clothing was not designed to be protective. Native Americans for example consist of many different tribes with many fighting styles. Some wore more protection leather than others depending on the region. Vikings' clothes were designed for mobility. That doesn't mean they just put on a shirt and trousers and were ready for battle. They still wore protective clothing. Sturdy leather pieces, and depending on the time period and rank also metal pieces. So they did wear armour.
@mattlewandowski73 Жыл бұрын
In modern fantasy, I have to say, Brienne's armor is one of the best I have seen. It shows clear fantasy aspects, but at the same time looks like it was thought out from a perspective of actually fighting in (and more importantly surviving the fight) armor first, and looks second. With the pseudo brig skirt, it shows some attempt to maintain some femininity, though as you point out. being recognizable as female on the battlefield is not necessarily a good thing.
@TheNefastor Жыл бұрын
"Enboobening" is such a wonderful word. Thank you for giving it to us, Jill.
@emaleemarrazzo75023 жыл бұрын
i love that you used facts, such as the differences in men and women bodies, and the fact that women are typically not a strong as men, and the fact that you don't want to make a target out of yourself. in battle people won't be courteous, they won't let other women attack women, they would attack the women because they would be an easier target. facts are important when it comes to realism in fiction. i also found this very helpful, i love writing and cosplay so this was actually very helpful.
@SpectralKnight3 жыл бұрын
Well I mean the whole "They want to rape you" issue is also fairly important. War usually gets people raped (though mostly women)
@TheMangoMovement3 жыл бұрын
What argument for women wearing real armor and not bikini plate isn't using facts?
@SovietArmyGuy3 жыл бұрын
One of murphy's laws of combat: don't be flashy and try to look like the less important member of your unit, the enemy might want to not be wasting a bullet on the smol grunt
@legrandliseurtri74952 жыл бұрын
@@SpectralKnight The rape part sounds kind of complicated if you're in the middle of the battle and you're wearing armor.
@legrandliseurtri74952 жыл бұрын
@@SovietArmyGuy I remember a fantasy serie where the army usually wore green armor, but this one woman chose a purple armor to proudly show her difference compare to other people(the fact that she has purple skin). The commander of the army was super pissed precisely because she would draw attention to herself in a battle(and also because he's an asshole who hates her but that's another story).
@MetFanMac3 жыл бұрын
“Now, there is a tendency at a point like this to look over one’s shoulder at the cover artist and start going on at length about leather, tightboots and naked blades. Words like ‘full’, ‘round’ and even ‘pert’ creep into the narrative, until the writer has to go and have a cold shower and a lie down. Which is all rather silly, because any woman setting out to make a living by the sword isn’t about to go around looking like something off the cover of the more advanced kind of lingerie catalogue for the specialized buyer. Oh well, all right. The point that must be made is that although Herrena the Henna-Haired Harridan would look quite stunning after a good bath, a heavy-duty manicure, and the pick of the leather racks in Woo Hun Ling’s Oriental Exotica and Martial Aids on Heroes Street, she was currently quite sensibly dressed in light chain mail, soft boots, and a short sword. All right, maybe the boots were leather. But not black.”
@pullybungieharder3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I miss Sr Pratchett's writing. Thank you for the reminder.
@NemoConsequentae3 жыл бұрын
GNU Terry Pratchett!
@mikumikudice Жыл бұрын
just found your channel by this video and I'm loving it! you are very kind and have a very sweet talking. it's a pleasure to hear you. gonna try to stick with more of your content
@GeTakeo Жыл бұрын
As an MMORPG player this video is very interesting! Loved the detail. Black Desert online armor popped to mind a few times. If you know you know :D
@Psyrus883 жыл бұрын
"Enboobening" Learned a new word, today.
@olesams3 жыл бұрын
You should run it by Susie Dent tho.
@energ4133 жыл бұрын
I was hoping someone would make this comment
@robynholley21803 жыл бұрын
"4. Breathing is important!" don't know why...but the obviousness of the point and the total casual way you delivered that line made me giggle lol
@VertietRyper Жыл бұрын
15:07 worth mentioning that cold bladed weaponry isn't that big a factor in starwars so I think factors like that aren't *as* vital. The armor Mandolorians use is legendary for its protective properties, but they're also supposed to be extremely agile so I think some minor decorative cutouts are acceptable. Clone Trooper and Stormtrooper armor is generally less protective but more effective both financially and coverage-wise because they're part of an actual standing army.
@apresmidi153 Жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Nice to see someone go really in-depth on this topic.
@ALeftyGoth3 жыл бұрын
Jill: Lots of good points about armor design for both function and aesthetics. Me: Is that how you're supposed to say "cuirass"!?
@-Jake3 жыл бұрын
Same
@aprophetofrng98213 жыл бұрын
You mentioned how you wouldn't necessarily want to advertise your sex on the battlefield for various reasons. But then I thought about how if a dude wore boob plate, he could trick other guys into going after him and possibly underestimating his strength. That would have been a funny scene in GoT.
@snikeduden28503 жыл бұрын
Yes! The Mountain would be a perfect candidate! lol
@TheMrEwe3 жыл бұрын
Dressing in drag as a survival mechanic?
@ginnyjollykidd3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrEwe Guys have dressed in drag for so many reasons! Why not fighting?
@tjbarke60863 жыл бұрын
Really, it'd just make more soldiers pile on... and he'd get exhausted faster...
@starcherry68143 жыл бұрын
I play COD a lot, and from experience. Enemies do target females the most because they stick out. I’m a good gamer but I can’t kill 3-4 people at once. They finally introduced Charly 🙌 so at least I get a fair chance to fight back 😹 (Because I’m not being dog piled)
@robertpowell1464 Жыл бұрын
This is very informative and fun. Thank you. Lots of bonus points for bashing heels for combat as well.
@jessicaneal8553 Жыл бұрын
Kitties! Very cute. We're getting one soon 😊
@AFLoneWolf3 жыл бұрын
There is not enough confusion. "Puppies!"
@Filip_Agrippa3 жыл бұрын
About high heels: I remember Christopher Lee talking about how difficult it was to fight in boots with high heels in the The Musketeers. And if you look at their boots, the heels were really longer than you might think.
@FunkBastid3 жыл бұрын
Ya, the only practical reason for someone to wear heeled shoes/boots is for horse-riding
@idontneedaname3183 жыл бұрын
@@FunkBastid how are heels pratical for horse riding? genuinely wondering since i know nothing abt it
@daalelli3 жыл бұрын
@@idontneedaname318 It's easier to lock into the stirrups with the heel. This keeps you on your mount with less effort.
@Monderoth Жыл бұрын
Oh! I know what the cat ball on the Sister of Battle armor is! It's censer! It burns incense, so naturally, it's left resting unattended and out of view next to the robe cloth.
@andresanguianozuniga6798 Жыл бұрын
As a character designer and future writter, this video was like an angel coming from the sky... BIG LIKE, JILL!