Jim Cornette on The 2022 Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

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@keni95851
@keni95851 Жыл бұрын
Who else was surprised that Jericho didnt get rookie of the year?
@keni95851
@keni95851 Жыл бұрын
@Dodge Morningstar that's a lot of weight
@williammitchell4417
@williammitchell4417 Жыл бұрын
Chris has been in wrestling even before I divorced my first ex-wife
@billwebber400
@billwebber400 Жыл бұрын
I would love to drink a beer or two with all of you LMAO repeatedly👍😁😅
@WillowGlen-hh7vp
@WillowGlen-hh7vp Жыл бұрын
Or the Bryan Daneilsen award
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
Impact is better than Aew by far ain't no way it's that lower than Aew
@ModestMcMichaels
@ModestMcMichaels Жыл бұрын
The reveal that Jericho made 8th on the most improved list and Brian’s demented laugh in response to reading that has got to be the best I’ve laughed in a long while
@Dwayne0630
@Dwayne0630 Жыл бұрын
It’s more of a testament to how dreadfully awful Jericho was the previous year… A veteran shouldn’t even be mentioned in this category…
@heelgill
@heelgill Жыл бұрын
34:38
@Joel_Young170
@Joel_Young170 Жыл бұрын
Did not realise that Jericho who has been wrestling for over 30 years has got so bad that he has only improved to be ranked 8th out of 10 for the year of 2022🤣🤣🤣
@above.average.gaming.natio3026
@above.average.gaming.natio3026 Жыл бұрын
the people who voted for this shit have been eating a lot of Meatloaf and green peas
@billwebber400
@billwebber400 Жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, you have to think back and remember Chris Jericho is a wizard🤑😈😱
@Darekpetrelli
@Darekpetrelli Жыл бұрын
The thing that Meltzer and a lot of people doesnt understand is that even when Roman isn't on screen, he's there. The fear of contradicting him, the desire to follow his orders etc etc. The bloodline matches were all about not wanting to piss him off. It wasn't even about winning or losing anymore. This is a plus, not a minus. if Moxley misses an episode does it have the same effect? Heck, even when it's there it doesn't have the same effect!
@KyleS3m3noff
@KyleS3m3noff Жыл бұрын
Someone gets it!
@ChaseNada
@ChaseNada Жыл бұрын
I like to look it as this : Both men have the creative freedom that they needed to break out. The big difference is one put the work in (acting lessons, changing presentation etc) to actually stand out and show the industry how good he is. Where as the other just went back to his old wrestling style (death matches, bleeding nearly every match etc) and has sat in cruise control ever since.
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 Жыл бұрын
Dave had him as top draw
@getschwifty9531
@getschwifty9531 Жыл бұрын
I know Moxley will be at home blading his forehead over a glass of wine as he promos to his wife about having to drink blood.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo Жыл бұрын
Ambrose being in a show or not has no consequence on the overall world of wrestling. A hobo in the streets offers more than him.
@adanmizura
@adanmizura Жыл бұрын
Buckle up! This is going to be good! Need the Corny Awards asap 🔥
@matthewirick79
@matthewirick79 Жыл бұрын
I second this.
@THectOrtiz
@THectOrtiz Жыл бұрын
Third 👍
@baconbone5895
@baconbone5895 Жыл бұрын
I fourth this.
@davidkelling159
@davidkelling159 Жыл бұрын
5th, it's officially a votebang
@XombieLejon66
@XombieLejon66 Жыл бұрын
What would be the categories? - *The "Thank you, fuck you, bye "* : wrestler you want most to be run out of the business
@nabillahlabat5570
@nabillahlabat5570 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, him trying to justify moxley winning over reigns is next level nut hugging!
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
I really dislike them both but will admit that RR has been really good as a heel in his current role.
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
it's just normal reigns barely wretled 10 tv matches in 2022, Mox had like 50
@scottcoval7547
@scottcoval7547 Жыл бұрын
​@@Kr4ShSkeL 50 shitty wrestling matches in one year is next level
@robertm.3520
@robertm.3520 Жыл бұрын
Plumber Moxley and his garbage matches winning wrestler of the year is a joke. I wonder when Tony Kahn is gonna call out Dave Meltzer for his clear anti- WWE bias since hes so worried about journalistic integrity.
@yusufgazi7
@yusufgazi7 Жыл бұрын
Sierra Hotel India Echo Lima Delta
@asurlybarber3620
@asurlybarber3620 Жыл бұрын
Corny & Uncle Dave: the most entertaining case of friends turned enemies since Obi-Wan & Anakin.
@EBAGTheGreat
@EBAGTheGreat Жыл бұрын
Damnit, you beat me to it lol
@z2ei
@z2ei Жыл бұрын
Dave is the living example of the "someone is wrong on the internet" comic. You know you're too into Twitter when you search out people to argue with who aren't even mentioning you.
@hamankarn91
@hamankarn91 Жыл бұрын
We need the cult of cornette awards
@john_blues
@john_blues Жыл бұрын
Corny's got the high ground.
@gamerythings123
@gamerythings123 Жыл бұрын
Jim has the high ground
@robintst
@robintst Жыл бұрын
"Welcome to the Observer Awards where everything's made up and the points don't matter."
@gamblingdon100
@gamblingdon100 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha good one.
@rexsexson5349
@rexsexson5349 Жыл бұрын
Now that's funny.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
​@@rexsexson5349 my favorite was when Russo said "It's a work it's not real you're a fuckin tool ass mark if you call it real wrestling" 😂
@todderickson2435
@todderickson2435 9 ай бұрын
You win. 😂
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 Жыл бұрын
A big problem with how Meltzer framed his justification for Moxley is that with the way WWE is structured, even if someone in WWE was wrestler of the year by every other conceivable metric, WON would have to snub them because their company makes too much money with or without any individual. When has that ever been criteria before now? He's just admitting that he's never going to advocate for a WWE guy to win it regardless of how well they do.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 Жыл бұрын
Unless they ever sign the bucks or Omega.
@shortymccutlery8919
@shortymccutlery8919 Жыл бұрын
Meltzer is just a professional AEW contrarian fanboy trying to convince himself and everyone AEW isn't a bunch of jobbers.
@jesterr7133
@jesterr7133 Жыл бұрын
Jim laughing hysterically after Brian named Orange Cassidy on the most charismatic list really cracked me up.
@revelstatus2346
@revelstatus2346 Жыл бұрын
We need the Corny Awards
@malikniang6760
@malikniang6760 Жыл бұрын
AGREED!
@jeffreymarksworld534
@jeffreymarksworld534 Жыл бұрын
I wonder who would've won best kidnapping this year
@therealmaskedheel
@therealmaskedheel Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreymarksworld534 Anyone who kidnapped the 200-500k people that are forced to watch Rampage each week.
@jerrymcreynolds-ih2tw
@jerrymcreynolds-ih2tw Жыл бұрын
He'll yeah
@frod79
@frod79 Жыл бұрын
​@@jeffreymarksworld534 swerve Strickland/Billy Gunn for sure 😂
@warrensloan3467
@warrensloan3467 Жыл бұрын
It’s bizarre when you see how seriously Dave takes his Hall of Fame and his awards, because a lot of the award winners don’t hold up to any reasonable standard aside from the herd mentality he has created, and he finally had to comment on it but is unwilling or unable to see that he’s the reason these people get it wrong.
@Station_AI
@Station_AI Жыл бұрын
It's the opinions of people that read the newsletter, how can they "get it wrong"? It's subjective
@warrensloan3467
@warrensloan3467 Жыл бұрын
@@Station_AI the guy who writes the newsletter said they got it wrong. And when the company that made the most money, the people running it don’t get “Best Promoter,” you can’t write it off as personal opinion.
@ronniejdio9411
@ronniejdio9411 Жыл бұрын
Dave's way he counts votes changes not from year to year bit from wrestler to wrestler in the same year
@Station_AI
@Station_AI Жыл бұрын
@@warrensloan3467 WWEs gonna make the most money irregardless of the quality of the booking
@warrensloan3467
@warrensloan3467 Жыл бұрын
@@Station_AI That’s their goal. A promoter who books great shows at a loss isn’t going to be a promoter for long. But the person who won this year is down in both ratings and tickets sold whereas WWE is going up, and most people consider the product better than previous years. But Tony Khan wins, because they would vote for him regardless. These voters voted WWE worst promotion over NWA and CYN, it’s absurd.
@hiphopotamus69
@hiphopotamus69 Жыл бұрын
Bryan Danielson winning the Bryan Danielson award is objectively hilarious
@jwconglomerate332
@jwconglomerate332 Жыл бұрын
If he were alive, Bruiser Brody probably would've been a shoe-in for the Bruiser Brody award.
@demonsuckafucka6828
@demonsuckafucka6828 Жыл бұрын
Why does Danielson have an award after his name lol? Kinda goofy
@syko2695
@syko2695 Жыл бұрын
​@@demonsuckafucka6828It was supposed to be retrospective because Bryan was forceably retired and assumed to never wrestle again
@ousmansano21
@ousmansano21 Жыл бұрын
@@demonsuckafucka6828it was given for the best technical wrestler and renamed after him after he retired in 2016 and he won it the most
@RagingCookie127
@RagingCookie127 Жыл бұрын
​@@demonsuckafucka6828The award is basically for best technical/in-ring wrestler and it was put in place after Danielson announced his retirement in WWE, they thought his career was over when they made the award, then he came back and didn't win his own award for multiple years
@todd1928
@todd1928 Жыл бұрын
The internet: Meltzer just announced his awards Also the internet: Oh good, when's Cornette's next podcast coming out?
@chrissawyer1484
@chrissawyer1484 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was wondering.
@Saddler1944
@Saddler1944 Жыл бұрын
John Moxely the guy who cant sell enough tickets to fill 30% of an arena. Seems to be the greatest wrestler of all time based on the Observer readers.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
He can't sell getting barbed wire in his body, table bumps, mat bumps or any of his opponents finishers either
@josephram1843
@josephram1843 Жыл бұрын
Brian and Jim are so entertaining. They are like the modern day shoot version of Monsoon and Heenan.
@MatthewSaliba
@MatthewSaliba Жыл бұрын
I love Corny's "What!?!" reaction every time Brian brings up a Japanese singles wrestler or tag team.
@JT-fz2xy
@JT-fz2xy Жыл бұрын
Who??
@TheBorkLaser
@TheBorkLaser Жыл бұрын
**scoff** hein?
@sadboi88
@sadboi88 Жыл бұрын
I don't. It reminds me of how little he respects Japanese wrestling
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
He's jealous.
@sonicplys64
@sonicplys64 Жыл бұрын
Oh for god's sake
@GrayFox24
@GrayFox24 Жыл бұрын
34:42 Brian Last’s laugh sounded exactly like Magic Johnson in the “Dream Team” documentary, when Magic was describing his pass during practice “HEEHEE”
@megsley
@megsley Жыл бұрын
so when is Dave gonna create a "wrestling journalist of the year" award? 😂
@djpaul8705
@djpaul8705 Жыл бұрын
Haha. Dave has retired the award. He has too many plaques on the mantle of his beach house. In 43 years Mike Tenay had two honors while Dave swept the other 41
@MyNameIsNotBrad
@MyNameIsNotBrad Жыл бұрын
SRS would win it.
@Sparkledash1
@Sparkledash1 Жыл бұрын
It's the first annual montgomery burns award for outstanding achievements in the field of EXCELLEEEEEEENCE
@bigc181
@bigc181 Жыл бұрын
Awarded to....Julia!
@freehat6180
@freehat6180 Жыл бұрын
Gunther is the guy to watch under any circumstances if you enjoy Pro Wrestling. The match he had with Rey mysterio was great, the best wrestling match I'd seen in years.
@carloscolon3331
@carloscolon3331 Жыл бұрын
Walter is guy that think of when it comes to wrestling good physic works smoothly with other and know how to make a match look real.
@darksideon
@darksideon Жыл бұрын
What was so great about the RAW 30th anniversary show, was seeing how happy Gunther was to be in the ring with DX & Angle. He comes off like such a badass, but even he couldn't hide his smile during that segment.
@metalheadjake3339
@metalheadjake3339 Жыл бұрын
GUNTHER is outstanding
@MrSircharles05
@MrSircharles05 Жыл бұрын
If Cody never came back to the WWE, I could see Gunther being the one to eventually dethrone Roman Reigns.
@homedeezyfasheezy5662
@homedeezyfasheezy5662 Жыл бұрын
He wrestles like bully which is sorely lacking in modern wrestling. That combined with that aura of being a stone faced hoss makes him top notch .
@tyvillianheartthrob1856
@tyvillianheartthrob1856 Жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette singing "This Is It" from "The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show" was epic.
@jaydenbolden7184
@jaydenbolden7184 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout Brian for defending giulia. She’s legit and not a “schoolgirl”😂
@mitchie2267
@mitchie2267 Жыл бұрын
Because she’s not a midget
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
Giulia, that's also an Alfa Romeo...
@gothard5
@gothard5 Жыл бұрын
Julia? That cheerleader girl in AEW that joined Aleister Black's group?
@jaydenbolden7184
@jaydenbolden7184 Жыл бұрын
@@gothard5 no😂she’s a Japanese wrestler but she’s really talented and looks like a wrestler.
@briannettles669
@briannettles669 Жыл бұрын
Giulia looks like a star and could be very successful in the WWE or AEW.
@JKimma8080
@JKimma8080 Жыл бұрын
Having been a fan for the better part of 35 years I can honestly say I had no idea who Uncle Dave was until about ten years ago and I feel like that's a great thing.
@williammitchell4417
@williammitchell4417 Жыл бұрын
I've been a fan for over 40 years, I knew about Apter when Uncle Dave was still in Grade school
@Dwayne0630
@Dwayne0630 Жыл бұрын
Probably not… for a long time Meltzer gave pretty decent criticism and feedback… it’s always been biased towards Japanese and Indy promotions, but at least it felt like he was trying to be fair… Since 2016 with Omega and Okada, and his popularity blowing up on KZbin and twitter he has kind of let it all go to his head, and now spews bullshit as if he is an omnipotent source of wrestling doctrine rather than just a well informed fan with a keyboard…
@bigron8896
@bigron8896 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea who he was until I heard about him in these podcasts after those bootleg rocker aew boys had the Meltzer bomb or some such rubbish. Like wtf names a wrestling move after a journalist? Waiting for the Connie Chung piledriver.
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
@@Dwayne0630 "As if he is some omnipotent source of wrestling doctrine", you mean like Cornette?
@Raven34643
@Raven34643 Жыл бұрын
​@@duckmercy11 The difference is Cornette actually worked in the wrestling business for four decades as a manager, promoter, trainer, and booker. Dave has never been anything more than an "observer."
@ScottsCollection
@ScottsCollection Жыл бұрын
I got Pro Wrestling Illustrated from late 80s to mid 90s. A lot of the awards would go to non WWF guys... And of course WCW would acknowledge their wins on air.
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
You got their correct... something only Cornette fans do amongst the unwashed masses of "wrasslin" fans.
@chico1680
@chico1680 Жыл бұрын
I remember Malenko winning WOTY in 97 when it usually went to top guys like Hogan and Flair
@zemm9003
@zemm9003 Жыл бұрын
​@@chico1680 in 97????? With Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, The Undertaker, Austin all at their prime???????? Then we have to conclude that these awards were always trash.
@Smokey1419
@Smokey1419 Жыл бұрын
@@zemm9003 HBK was getting annoying in 97, Taker was still havinh the same kind of matches, and Austin was better on the mic than in ring. I started watching wrestling in 97, and Malenko always had great matches
@zemm9003
@zemm9003 Жыл бұрын
@@Smokey1419 97 was the foundation of DX and Michaels was at his peak. Bret Hart had one of the best in ring years despite losing in Montreal. Undertaker had awesome feuds with both. This was Austin's best year overall with the exception of 1998 and maybe (arguable) 1999. You marks can come up with any excuse under the sun to defend nonsense. Malenko was always a charisma vacuum and he was not as good a wrestler as his friends.
@kylek9684
@kylek9684 Жыл бұрын
48:14 NOOO!! the way Jim says RENEE MOXLEY GOODE this time is different lmfao it's the best one yet! ahahaa
@JohnTravolta62435
@JohnTravolta62435 Жыл бұрын
Jim saying "Who?What?" When Brian was saying the Japanese tag teams had me dying hahahaha
@BookerT69
@BookerT69 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked Booker T I think he’s great in and out the ring
@tysontomko
@tysontomko Жыл бұрын
Agreed schucky ducky
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 Жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer gets 5 ⭐️ for being a MARK for himself ….
@Riese79
@Riese79 Жыл бұрын
7 in the Tokio Dome
@metalheadjake3339
@metalheadjake3339 Жыл бұрын
🙌
@getschwifty9531
@getschwifty9531 Жыл бұрын
Imagine getting in your feelings because of a Dave Meltzer opinion...
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
Infinity stars.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo Жыл бұрын
@@Riese79 8 if he is near Homega
@austinlaxton93
@austinlaxton93 Жыл бұрын
There’s no reason Dana White, Sean Shelby, Mick Maynard & the UFC should even be mentioned anywhere on these pro wrestling lists. It doesn’t make sense including them and is kind of a slap in the face to wrestling in my opinion.
@sy8jr80
@sy8jr80 Жыл бұрын
I have not watched one second of watching live on tv in years but man JC is must listen every week and this segment had me laughing the entire time even if i don't know what half of the wrestlers look like. PS i watched wresting from the late 80 's through the attitude era.
@Bjaerke
@Bjaerke Жыл бұрын
Ngl the WON awards 2022 are one of the best comedy skits that ever happened. Booker of the year - a guy who books a show that constantly loses views. Wrestler of the year - a guy people made compilations about of him blading on camera and bc of his tremendous skill he get's cought every single time Worst promotion of the year - the promotion who has constantly the highest view numbers and makes the most money etc It's so hilarious.
@metalheadjake3339
@metalheadjake3339 Жыл бұрын
WON voters are not a smart bunch but they think they are.
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
WWE wins worst promotion of the year since 20 years are you stupid or new to the business ?
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
McDonalds makes the most burgers and most money but any restaurant connoisseur would rate them among the worst dining establishments quality-wise.
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
@meharinationsportspodcast2582 Жыл бұрын
33:13 - Brian's message to Dave Meltzer!!!😂😂😂 "Dave!!! If you have 18 people voting for the Jericho appreciation society vs Black Pool combat club as feud of the year. You should take away their subscription!!!! Just eat the cost!!! They don't the deserve to get the newsletter anymore because there idiots!!!!" HUGE BURIAL!!!😂😂😂😂
@marqj2781
@marqj2781 Жыл бұрын
Jim's "What!" And Brians"at ni he heee "will Kill me everytime 🤣
@peterlee6374
@peterlee6374 Жыл бұрын
All these awards show is exactly the reason why wwe doesn’t listen to the hardcore fanbase Wwe won almost all the “worst of” awards yet was the only company to be up in ratings ticket sales revenue and profit
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
Stardom has tripled their ticket sales and revenue since 2018, but I agree you can't just listen to smarks when making booking decisions.
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv Жыл бұрын
I’m glad that from the start they point out just what these awards happen to actually be, who votes on them, and how many people actually do vote on them before they dove in to the review. That is absolutely key in this before you start any review or analysis of what the results happen to be. You see so many people on social media or in a comments section go crazy with disbelief or screaming foul when these results end up being revealed because they don’t pause to consider just what these awards fully entail and how that explains why the results happen to be what they are every year. These awards are not decided by some respected independent voting base to ever be confused as some measure of objective opinions but rather are voted on by subscribers of the newsletter and even then only those who actually decide to vote to begin with. When reviewed in proper context the results shouldn’t be a shock at all. It really shouldn’t be a big leap to recognize that people who pay to consume Dave’s opinions of wrestling are also likely to share his tastes of wrestling and who is or isn’t good. So it’s always amusing to see people hurling accusations that Dave fixes the results to what he wants them to end up being and the like. The reality is the results largely align to what Dave’s taste happens to be because the people who vote on this pay for Dave’s opinions and thus probably share similar opinions to those he has so when the votes turn out that way it really isn’t some surprise to occur. People shouldn’t be fooling themselves into believeing these to be some objective measurement of anything more than the tastes of an audience who share tastes with Dave. But seeing AEW take them so seriously will always be funny to see - obviously they’re happy to do that because Dave and his audience like their product and naturally it leads to their consistent winning of such awards when the people who vote on it prefer their show. But they mean nothing as it relates to objectivity of any kind and people should always recognize that from the start.
@packersfaninvegas
@packersfaninvegas Жыл бұрын
Dave's bias is only because WWE never embraced him like the Nerds in AEW Dave's been lost credibility long time ago
@carloscjr23
@carloscjr23 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm not the only one, we need a corny awards yesterday I don't care if it's just him shooting in modern wrestling for 2 hours, we need that, we want that!
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
They only shoot on modern stuff that comports to their outdated opinions. Neither of them watch MLW, NXT, NJPW, NOAH, Stardom or any other respectable product and spend time crying about how the past was better because theyre stuck in a time warp.
@karlm641
@karlm641 Жыл бұрын
The fact Roman Reigns isn’t the clear winner sums up what a bunch of dorks the WON audience really are…
@romofan8881
@romofan8881 Жыл бұрын
1:00:17 "So AEW didn't even get ANY votes for worst promotion of the year." "I don't think those are allowed" An all time Jim line, which is saying something.
@aliwilliams9934
@aliwilliams9934 Жыл бұрын
This shit sounds like the AEW Awards. I don’t want to hear any about bias anymore.
@jciii3334
@jciii3334 Жыл бұрын
Jesus God!?!? Jon Moxley!!??? Are you effing kidding me!!!!
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
Here on out, he shall be referred to as merely The Plumber.
@jciii3334
@jciii3334 Жыл бұрын
@Elvis Pressley There will be stories told to children about the Blood drinking, bone chewing "Plummer of Cincinnati:" who haunts the outlaw mud shows of the darkest regions of this country.
@silvereloking6149
@silvereloking6149 Жыл бұрын
Take Roman Reigns out and this is actually 9 worst wrestlers
@destino3945
@destino3945 Жыл бұрын
I know this is incredibly old, but Bryan Danielson is one of the 9 worst wrestlers in the world?
@SpiralPoli
@SpiralPoli Жыл бұрын
​@@destino3945Not one of the worst but he's bad. Always does the same shit and he did a comedy dance routine mid match with Kenny in PWG once. The way I see it, Roman and Danielson both suck and are very boring and predictable in ring and neither can cut a good promo.
@SpiralPoli
@SpiralPoli Жыл бұрын
Roman has always sucked. The rest of the list just sucks more.
@Oh-ffs
@Oh-ffs Жыл бұрын
This shows why Dave caters to the AEW fanbase, they're his observor subscribers
@WillowGlen-hh7vp
@WillowGlen-hh7vp Жыл бұрын
But they are the AEW fanbase BECAUSE theyre his Observer readers. Hes the Sean Hannity of wrestling. Facts dont matter and its the only thing they read.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
​@@WillowGlen-hh7vp Adam Blampeid is the IWC version of Dave Meltzer Watch some of his takes he's about as ridiculous as Dave Meltzer
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 Жыл бұрын
It’s a flawed award system because they actively train their followers who to like
@staalhard666
@staalhard666 Жыл бұрын
kinda like WWE's main event scene
@ChiefDede15
@ChiefDede15 Жыл бұрын
@@staalhard666 that’s how wrestling promotions work.
@frankE91210
@frankE91210 Жыл бұрын
just like real politics
@djpaul8705
@djpaul8705 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Yes. That is Dave's intention
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 Жыл бұрын
​@@ChiefDede15 he really thought he was thought provoking there.
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain Жыл бұрын
"Bank-addicted drug robbers" Diesel line from Cornette
@mick16wtf
@mick16wtf Жыл бұрын
Truly wise word from Award Winning Jewish Co-host of the year on the Cornette show
@captain-brickhead8317
@captain-brickhead8317 Жыл бұрын
Poured myself a whiskey because this one should be good! 🥃 Cheers cult of cornette!
@AmateurHour1111
@AmateurHour1111 Жыл бұрын
What time was it for you when this dropped? Haha
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
@meharinationsportspodcast2582 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jonvia
@jonvia Жыл бұрын
1:01:38 Those guys are the bookers for the UFC lol Corny sounding like an owl "WHHHHHOOOOOOO?"
@cameronallen5043
@cameronallen5043 Жыл бұрын
Moxley is total butt cheeks, but Rampage being in the top 3 weekly shows is very telling how garbage these awards are.
@claudewashington9196
@claudewashington9196 Жыл бұрын
Not sure how we'll pull it off, but one of these days, you & Jim need to do a watch-a-along of a Stardom show.
@Pupsterization122
@Pupsterization122 Жыл бұрын
AEW / IWC marks are a joke for patting themselves on the back with these awards Lmao
@getschwifty9531
@getschwifty9531 Жыл бұрын
So are you for giving this so much importance.
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 Жыл бұрын
@@getschwifty9531 Ridicule isn't the same as outrage. Only wrestling fans can perceive people laughing in their face as being triggered.
@NoName-cz3wn
@NoName-cz3wn Жыл бұрын
It would be hilarious if Tony turns on Meltzer a la Helwani, and in response petty ol Dave goes "oh yeah, well Jericho was the one that leaked the CM Punk stuff, painted your EVPs as villains and cost you your biggest money star and your biggest public blunder!" I can dream
@MilMaska
@MilMaska Жыл бұрын
"Yea right and you saw it from where ? Oakland." - Kevin Nash
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
It's this little thing called "the internet."
@gr7993
@gr7993 Жыл бұрын
It tells you that demo hates Cody because he’s on none of this. He came back, was giving great promos, and had good matches with Rollins.
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 Жыл бұрын
Cody was injured for most of 2022. His 2023 stuff has been great though.
@gr7993
@gr7993 Жыл бұрын
@@dngn4774 not really. He started the year in AEW, then from Wrestlemania till Hell in a Cell he’s been there. That’s like most of the Year.
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 Жыл бұрын
@@gr7993 Yeah his AEW run wasn't good towards the end. Everyone kept saying "he's such a brilliant heel/it's a work/he's not really leaving" until he did, had one feud with Rollins and was injured the rest of the year.
@ronniejdio9411
@ronniejdio9411 Жыл бұрын
Guy can't win an award for wrestling when he wrestled 2 matches
@gr7993
@gr7993 Жыл бұрын
@@ronniejdio9411 You mean the guy who won an award for wrestling one match? (Cody won an espy for best WrestleMania moment)
@wildwine6400
@wildwine6400 Жыл бұрын
Most charismatic wrestler- MJF. Won by a heel! Brilliant.
@staalhard666
@staalhard666 Жыл бұрын
if you think charisma is an exclusive face characteristic maybe you should look up the definition. Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, Vince McMahon, Donald Trump, Andrew Tate... All vile human beings, yet charismatic enough to get a huge following
@rusuyta4429
@rusuyta4429 Жыл бұрын
So?
@wildwine6400
@wildwine6400 Жыл бұрын
@@rusuyta4429 previous winners are baby faces like Hogan , Stone Cold and The Rock as face. A bad guy shouldn't be charismatic being cheered, that's bad heel work. Charisma means he liked by the fans. Thats the opposite of a heel
@J.D.1.
@J.D.1. Жыл бұрын
From Google Charisma (noun): Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others ... Yep. You nailed it. Not something good heel work should be described as.
@staalhard666
@staalhard666 Жыл бұрын
How bout The Rock's heel run? Did he lose his charisma back then? Dumb zoomers.
@decepticonxhunter4850
@decepticonxhunter4850 Жыл бұрын
Paul Heyman that far down the list in the Best Interview category is just criminal, especially when he's behind someone as comically stale as MJF. That guy can hype up some opponents better than they could hype themselves up.
@bruno-lp6ds
@bruno-lp6ds Жыл бұрын
we really need The Corny Awards
@AndersonTenecela
@AndersonTenecela Жыл бұрын
34:42 Brian Last with that cartoon style laugh 😂
@Robby_C
@Robby_C Жыл бұрын
Its a shame that the most vocal wrestling fans today also happen to be the dumbest, nerdiest, most socially inept group of marks in the entire history of pro-wrestling. And whats worse is they have insulated themselves into bubbles and convinced each other that anybody who doesn't like the same thing is just lying to be a hater or a troll... its mind numbing.
@xymoriintus
@xymoriintus Жыл бұрын
The observer newsletter voters are the same people who would send in video questions to kayfaybe commentaries
@MilkmanC
@MilkmanC Жыл бұрын
7:32 Does he get all his comedy from Looney Tunes? lmaoo
@richardpreston7333
@richardpreston7333 Жыл бұрын
Just want to point out that for all the times he's called Paul out on his b.s. and stretching the truth like so much bubblegum, Jim will always give Heyman props for being great on the microphone
@yusufgazi7
@yusufgazi7 Жыл бұрын
Cornette and Meltzer are the Obi-Wan and Darth Vader of wrestling
@gouthamkrishna8522
@gouthamkrishna8522 11 ай бұрын
"The ring is sacred" -Gunther the brawler
@MrEmperorApples
@MrEmperorApples Жыл бұрын
40:45 I popped so hard at the U Boat comment about Kommander! It was so outta nowhere like an RKO!
@Dx298
@Dx298 Жыл бұрын
The award for best wrestling documentary goes to Cocaine Bear: The Tony Khan Story
@finnegancourtney
@finnegancourtney Жыл бұрын
20:16 that might be Brian’s best moment LOLLLLL
@mike55k2007
@mike55k2007 Жыл бұрын
This was the funniest video Jim/Brian have done in a while.
@Dan-ni7qv
@Dan-ni7qv Жыл бұрын
Chris Jericho above MJF, Punk and Danielson hahaha stop my sides lmaoooo. Smakrs are beyond parody at this point.
@wildwine6400
@wildwine6400 Жыл бұрын
FTR as best tag team is surprising. They've had 2 good matches all year, which is pretty much their only matches this year 😅
@templeos2954
@templeos2954 Жыл бұрын
It's bullshit that it's not the Uso's who won that
@hdgames5689
@hdgames5689 Жыл бұрын
FTR held belts at same time in different promotions
@valeriye5018
@valeriye5018 Жыл бұрын
They had few matches at AEW but lots on other promotions. Both matches with Briscoes were in ROH
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
2 ?? No you just don't watch their work. They had 3 great matches with the briscoes, they had a very good tv match with the bucks, they had a very good ppv match with Aussie Open, they were champions of 3 different companies in 3 different contries....
@templeos2954
@templeos2954 Жыл бұрын
@@Kr4ShSkeL 3 different countries, 3 different companies and only about 30 smarks care. Meanwhile the entire tag division at WWE functions around the chase for the titles and usurping the Uso's. I think I know which are the tag team of the year personally.
@Crashj7f67h
@Crashj7f67h Жыл бұрын
How are people voting WWE as the worst promotion, but they voted In WWE people on the best booker topic?
@Brando-Lee3725
@Brando-Lee3725 Жыл бұрын
Mike Bailey could be somebody ! He already is in my eyes . He is innovative and can wrestle . Kommander is up there with El Vikingo In the Lucha highyfling style for sure ! But if any of them hit a peak and breakout on American TV in WWE or AEW , Its Speedball Mike Bailey !
@Oleksandr.Derkach
@Oleksandr.Derkach Жыл бұрын
43:39 - OMG! I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣
@legacy7ds
@legacy7ds Жыл бұрын
Giulia is actually a good wrestler and is over. She is someone I've kept up with.
@eiephants
@eiephants Жыл бұрын
I thought they were talking about Julia Hart.
@al5306
@al5306 Жыл бұрын
The guy who openly cuts himself on camera showing you how fake all of this is won the Lou Thesz award. Dave, and his readers, are completely lost in the sauce.
@AlwaysOnDeck
@AlwaysOnDeck Жыл бұрын
CM Punk should have won "Best Brawler."
@peterlee6374
@peterlee6374 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@JaculaDudek
@JaculaDudek Жыл бұрын
Ace Steele was more efficient
@mjdf122
@mjdf122 Жыл бұрын
They let the girls into the Lou Thesz and Ric Flair Award
@richardchisolm8430
@richardchisolm8430 Жыл бұрын
To be clear….Meltzer had to come out and denounce some of these award winners like the Booker of the Year….even he had to admit how ridiculous the award winners were.
@freddiejohnson6137
@freddiejohnson6137 Жыл бұрын
That's because he has trained his listeners and readers over the years to hate anything WWE does regardless of it being good or not and he can't accept it is down to what he says a lot of the time.
@clifforddavidson7273
@clifforddavidson7273 Жыл бұрын
We're not going to talk about the real controversy of these Awards? Bryan Danielson winning the Bryan Danielson award? Talk about a fix! I want a Thorough investigation done
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
Demand a recount.
@VeryStupid4547
@VeryStupid4547 Жыл бұрын
Omega vs Ospereay was an interesting match (too many false finishes & not enough psychology for my taste) and I respect Omega's athleticism & work in Japan. Everything else people like about him befuddles me.
@bucketoafterbirth
@bucketoafterbirth Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. I don't get the appeal at all, but different strokes I suppose.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL Жыл бұрын
​​@@bucketoafterbirth it's the "Anti Top guy" smarky wrestler fandom The Anti Cena smarks did it with Punk and Bryan
@Ratmann8436
@Ratmann8436 3 ай бұрын
The negative narrative against WWE from these voters is nauseating.
@veegob5287
@veegob5287 Жыл бұрын
FTR, and Tony celebrated everyone else who won on AEW social media.
@phantomdriver2010
@phantomdriver2010 Жыл бұрын
Gunther vs Sheamus not being match of the year is the stupidest shit. That match single handedly revived Sheamus and launched gunther
@snarf4058
@snarf4058 Жыл бұрын
Wrestler of the year and MVP Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnn MAUXLEY was not in the top 10 matches of the year. Whereas Giulia and Syuri made it in. Syuri (14-1 kickboxing and 6-3 MMA records too) is really good so deserves all the votes i think - a legit talent and fighter. As does Ospreay to be fair.
@PersonalAcc1989
@PersonalAcc1989 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if WWE embraced Dave and the dirt sheets like AEW did out of the gate?
@Jwjmcc
@Jwjmcc Жыл бұрын
That lists show only one thing and that is the only people buying the observer now it’s the 900,000 aew fans
@DeaconG1959
@DeaconG1959 Жыл бұрын
I also agree we need the Jim Cornette Experience Awards.
@tysheinin8733
@tysheinin8733 Жыл бұрын
Thought I'd watch the clips first but nah...I gotta hear the whole review
@SAMCRO_89
@SAMCRO_89 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 I lost it when Brian said "And at number 2 for best brawler for the Bruiser Brody Memorial award Tomohiro Ishii" and Jim went "Oh ffs the potato? the Japanese potato with arms and legs".
@duckmercy11
@duckmercy11 Жыл бұрын
Cornette literally thinks Mike Kanelis (remember that?) and Matt Taven of all people could be top stars, that's even funnier.
@charliecohall9243
@charliecohall9243 Жыл бұрын
These AEW fans are sick
@Dark_Marko_88
@Dark_Marko_88 Жыл бұрын
Mentally deficient virgins.
@misterelom
@misterelom Жыл бұрын
Having Moxley winning an award named after Lou Thesz & Ric Flair is just so wrong. It would be like giving Vince Russo an award named after Eddie Graham. MJF, Heyman, & Punk should've been top 3 in the promo category (MJF & Heyman numbers 1 & 2, either order).
@JenzKeller
@JenzKeller Жыл бұрын
Here we go...
@LewisCampbellTech
@LewisCampbellTech Жыл бұрын
I'm dying at jim cornette doing the sponsor at the end. "Now once they have your address they may stop by.."
@ChaseNada
@ChaseNada Жыл бұрын
Hands down....if kenny does indeed jump to WWE, expect Dave to do a full 180 on AEW. He will follow his boy whereever he goes.
@patrickwilliams6143
@patrickwilliams6143 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he would just bury HHH for not putting Kenny over Brock, Cody and Roman in the Wrestlemania main event.
@ChaseNada
@ChaseNada Жыл бұрын
@@patrickwilliams6143 Fair point 🤣
@elvispressley2365
@elvispressley2365 Жыл бұрын
Every crappy newsletter would be titled, "Why Doesn't Kenny Have All The Belts, Dammit?"
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
180 on aew ? why ? he literally said Khan should not have won the booker of the year maybe stop thinking he's an AEW fanboy ?
@ChaseNada
@ChaseNada Жыл бұрын
@@Kr4ShSkeL Recently, and just recently, yes but ask yourself why his fanbase chose Tony for booker of the year when his booking has been a puddle of piss for a long time now. Dave may be criticizing AEW a lot more often than he did before but that doesn't excuse the way he indoctrinated his sheep into accepting his word without any well thought out criticism. And for that alone, he shouldn't be let off so lightly. The braindead mentality of his subscriber base is entirely on his head.
@bohelsel6986
@bohelsel6986 Жыл бұрын
The groans sighs and what the fucks get me every time. 💀💀💀
@VeryStupid4547
@VeryStupid4547 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated Comment: AJ Styles is hands down the best wrestler to emerge from the 2000's. He's so far ahead of his peers, they can't see his ass with the Hubble telescope. Edit: Even though they were over once upon a time, the Bullet Club was ALWAYS beneath him. A man of his talents shouldn't have been stuck with a group (whether he was their leader or not) that is/was a lame, unoriginal ripoff/hybrid of the nWo & DX. Styles has the likeability of Bret, the showmanship of HBK, and the all-around game of Steamboat. And I've never heard any stories about him being a backstage politician, he let his talent speak for itself, and it spoke volumes.
@goodday2760
@goodday2760 Жыл бұрын
cringe
@VeryStupid4547
@VeryStupid4547 Жыл бұрын
@@goodday2760 Lame attempt at an insult
@goodday2760
@goodday2760 Жыл бұрын
@@VeryStupid4547 When complimenting AJ Styles you insulted everyone's intelligence. And it was a lame attempt to do so.
@VeryStupid4547
@VeryStupid4547 Жыл бұрын
@@goodday2760 Anyone who's intelligence was insulted by my praise of AJ is rather thin-skinned and egocentric. Some people such as yourself don't seem to have anything better to do than to pick fights over benign comments and play keyboard warrior.
@goodday2760
@goodday2760 Жыл бұрын
@@VeryStupid4547 Literally your second word was a 3rd grade writing mistake.
@GhOs7FiGhTa
@GhOs7FiGhTa Жыл бұрын
I blanked out for a minute and then all of a sudden Jim was screaming city names and it scared tf out of me.
@williammitchell4417
@williammitchell4417 Жыл бұрын
And Brian Danielson wins the Brian Danielson award... Now that confirms that this is a RIB!!!
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
award was named after him when he retired
@Habück
@Habück Жыл бұрын
@@Kr4ShSkeL wasn't it the Chris Benito Award before he had his roid rage?
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
@@Habück I don't think so, it would not make much sense since he "only" won it 3 times Danielson won it like 10 times in a row before his retirement 😂
@Habück
@Habück Жыл бұрын
@@Kr4ShSkeL but Danielson was still sucking his momma's teet when Krispin Wah won those. And when Danielson won his first one, that other guy was long DEAD! So it must have had a different name before it was named after Danielson.
@Kr4ShSkeL
@Kr4ShSkeL Жыл бұрын
@@Habück he won his first one in 2005 so no he was not long dead.... He was just dead And ofc it had another name before being named after Danielso and it still does, it's the best technical wrestler award 🤷🏻‍♂️ But it never was named after another guy, and it's the only one to be named after someone
@AestheticDelta
@AestheticDelta Жыл бұрын
Dave is obviously that distressed guy that still harbors resentment because WWE ignored his resume for the creative job opening X years ago.. lol that probably explains everything in these "rankings". Watch that Chris van Vliet interview where he grills DM, its as hilarious as its cringe to watch but equally enlighting as to why nobody with a functioning IQ level should listen to his opinions on wrestling
@klawstecno2083
@klawstecno2083 Жыл бұрын
The Pitch Black Match was really bad and even Dave said that, but if the same match happened on PWG for example,he would had made look like the best thing ever,just because it was on the indies.
@getschwifty9531
@getschwifty9531 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
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