Jim Cornette's Watch-Along: Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum T.A. (I Quit Match) at Starrcade '85

[@anthonyhale6093]

For those on peacock, the time stamp is 1:27:48 for the match start

[@SlimbyTheSillyGoose]

Thank you!

[@FrankLenzMMA]

Legend

[@brandondavidson2200]

I hope you know how loved you are lol. For real tho, thank you!

[@VonMuff]

doing god's work

[@AnimeNut101]

2 years late, but THANK YOU!!

[@jonnybrotten1290]

Most realistic and drama filled I quit match ever.

[@stephenkinq5425]

Right , Hogan was American Made but Magnum had The American Bad Ass persona before (Taker) And People could identify with Magnums Persona more than Hogan .... Hogan was Great nd Built for larger than life but Magnum was for the Blue Collar American.

[@TheEnzyme94]

No one built a clubhouse with chairs, no tacks, no kendo sticks, no tables. And it was way more violent. This was a ProWretling grudgematch and not sports entertainment bs!

[@sanstheskeleton6510]

idiot wrestling isn't the same as this time with won` t work in wrestling today

[@TheEnzyme94]

Lol the facts speak for themselves! Millions and millions watching then one or two and a half million at most watching now! If you have to call me names? That means you've got no valid argument!

[@sanstheskeleton6510]

@@TheEnzyme94 this won`t work in 2020 because it's too violent and no more blood alowd people of now more sensitive about this stuff and kids are watching too

[@TheEnzyme94]

@@sanstheskeleton6510 it wasn't aimed at being just for kids! Women went, old people went, teens went! Parental guidance was a factor bc if there was a cage it was clear there would be blood! There is blood in MMA so it would work today for adult audiences with parental guidance ofcourse. I grew up in that era. And it was treated like a violent sporting event (Like MMA)! Not an Entertainment kids show with pupets or jokes! So you brought your kids at your own discression. And people did. Like my dad took me and my bothers. So you don't think it works bc all today's kids have been fed cartoonie kid wwe and bte young bucks bs? Ok, your opinion. It was better when it was treated like a sport. That is why people look back at this! And NOT most of the sports entertainment (it doesnt age well, it's hokey).

[@michaelallanrubin2376]

@@TheEnzyme94 they didn't get along, you are misinformed

[@MailmanMuscle]

“The vastly popular Magnum TA!” 😄 That was old school ring announcing at its finest. After all of these years, this is still the gold standard for “I quit matches” IMO.

[@seansouthall8244]

This how 2 people who hate each other should fight not the the hugs, kisses and jumping of random shit we see in todays garbage wrestling.

[@thesupervisor3270]

And Tully looked like a fucking star when he came out. Not like he belongs in the front row of the crowd

[@readsomebooks666]

Hugs and fucking kisses in WRESTLING. Tells you all you need to know.

[@MilMaska]

"Yes. Yes. Yes" - Tully Blanchard

[@Francisah]

Great ending

[@ethanbradley2089]

Magnum TA is maybe the biggest what if in wrestling. He was JCP's answer to Hogan, and it was working.

[@patrickdepew4976]

I'm not sure if he could have equaled Hogan at that time, as I think Hogan had more charisma, but I definitely agree that it's probably the biggest What If? in wrestling history. There are like 5 or 6 scenarios that immediately spring to mind.

[@halfwaydecent6842]

Magnum & Flair feuding over the World title throughout the 80s would've been pure gold.

[@ethanbradley2089]

@@halfwaydecent6842 Flair would've had fun putting him over. He was perfect for Flair to bump all over for.

[@ethanbradley2089]

@@Helpasos no body? You are way off. Vader, Lesnar & Goldberg didn't cut promos either. That worked out pretty good for them.

[@patrickdepew4976]

@@Helpasos He was only 27 years old. He had plenty of time to improve.

[@jasperdriver8546]

This match was living proof that you didn’t need multiple hospital finishes, fall finishes and or numerous 450 splashes to build heart and drama in a match. This match was still one of my favorites growing up to this day just here Raw intensity

[@michaelmuirhead1734]

Best Cage Match ever

[@OSEsean]

nUMerOuS 450 SplAshEs hur dur

[@Ted_Bell]

I hate how every I quit match nowadays has no I quits. Just people passing out or other people coming out to throw in the towel. Almost every time.

[@josheisert8380]

Well thats kind of the whole point of an I quit match. The baby face goes over and beats the crap out of the heal and the heal keeps his heat by saying well I never said I quit. It's a win win for everyone. Just like with this Tully goes on to say I never said the words I quit, I didn't lose. Think about if Tully or a heal actually said the words I quit. He is officially a pussy and nobody cares what he says anymore, thus killing the excitement for whoever he puts over next. However if he comes out next week and says per rules of the match I didn't lose and keeps talking trash we all know he got his ass beat but hate him that much more cause technically he didn't lose. Unless you are a heal fan like myself and like him that much more. The only problem is the concept while new is great. After done many times we all know whats going to happen because you can't have a major heal say I quit unless you are getting ready for him to admit his wrongs and turn face after. This is what I don't understand about Jim with all his wrestling knowledge. He seems to think a KO(discussed in another clip) in an I quit match is or should be a win. That takes away the heals outs to lose yet continue his heat.

[@Ted_Bell]

@@josheisert8380 If you have an I quit match. Yes people should quit more than 1 out of every 20 times. Boring Predictable. All the smark logic in the world won't save it. When Conner got tapped out years ago and gave up, people didn't stop wanting to see him. They wanted to see him more. If your character is over enough it can survive anything.

[@josheisert8380]

@@Ted_Bell Well thats kind of my point. When they were new they were a great idea. Now not so much since we all know the heal is not likely to say I quit. You can't have a top heal say I quit and then expect his next program to be significant in elevating another talent. MMA is way different. Conner can redeem himself next match. A heals job is to move on to the next face and lose again eventually.

[@MisterE1976]

@@josheisert8380 Totally agree with you on a major heel saying I Quit & admitting his wrongs. Great example is Terry Funk vs Ric Flair Clash of Champions 9- NYKO when Funk quit he confessed & shook Flair's hand & looked him in the eye.

[@josheisert8380]

@@MisterE1976 Yeah those I quit matches are tough scenarios. If a heel wrestler says I quit the only option is to turn face and work on his wrongs to become better so that he has another program/story line. If the top heel says I quit and stays heel the story for him is over. The next guy that works with him isn't going to get elevated by beating him as all he did was beat a pussy who said I quit. I understand people want them to say I quit but as a booker sometimes you can't give the fans what they want because the fans don't know it would screw up future story lines. You have to keep heat on your top heels or they are useless. Also people have to remember its a work. I quit matches are not the same as submission matches. I quit matches purpose is usually not to arm bar someone and make them tap and say I quit. They are geared to beating your opponent half to death and holding a mic to his mouth and having him say I quit when you are not even touching him. It's much more humiliating and if a top heel succumbs to that his next program is worthless.

[@fuzzfrancis435]

"He's got a piece of that CHAIR!!!"

[@artmeddaugh6669]

Tully broke that chair perfectly when he slammed it down onto the mat and that broken piece formed that nasty looking spike!

[@jeffreyriley8742]

Tony timed that call perfectly.

[@Nirv_99]

You give up Tully no no no no

[@Cavillier1970]

Anyone else love the irony that the two men are still linked besides this match, that Tully's ex-wife married Magnum and he's Tessa's stepfather?

[@jenisia3600]

This was Pro Wrestling. Btw may i suggest other Starrcade's matches for watch-alongs like: Ole and Arn vs Rock n Roll Vader vs Sting Flair vs Vader

[@jeffreyriley8742]

Watched this over and over again the other day. Glorious.

[@Flymurd]

Best "I Quit" match I ever saw.

[@Allenwhite5425]

Am I the only one who thinks that Magnum looks likes Jake the Snakes brother ?

[@isaacshaver6218]

He did back then

[@halfwaydecent6842]

This match and Slaughter/Kernodle v. Steamboat/Youngblood in '83 are the greatest cage matches ever in Greensboro...and boy howdy were there some great ones in that building.

[@artmeddaugh6669]

Hat's off to Tully Blanchard and Magnum T.A. for not only giving us this gift of a match at Starcade 85, but for giving NWA fans the feud of the year in 1985 as well. Two men striving to be the best. Two men who did not like each other. Two men who beat each other up into a bloody mess. Two men who were great champions in the NWA.

[@philipclarke9696]

Tully made every feud he was ever in seem like life and death. He was the best heel in the business during this time. I always got mad they stuck him in the team with Arn because it effectively killed his singles career which had been brilliant. He elevated Arn but at the same time but at the same time lowered himself in the eyes of the fans.

[@artmeddaugh6669]

@@philipclarke9696 It made sense when Lex joined the Horsemen that he was the second single, and Tully and Arn became the tag team. They became a great tag team and worked with some great teams in the NWA and WWF over a two year period. I like Tully as a single better too, but he did what was good for the Horsemen. World Tag Team Champs in both companies isn't shabby.

[@kacebox174]

I'm reminded of Steamboat/Savage from 1987 where it's not just the match, it's the lead-up to it that makes it matter even more. Sadly this is Magnum TA's only Starrcade match. Tully Blanchard meanwhile was involved in a Championship match all 4 times he competed at Starrcade. NWA Television Championship vs Ricky Steamboat in 1984 NWA United States Heavyweight Championship vs Magnum TA in 1985 NWA World Television Championship vs Dusty Rhodes in 1986 NWA World Tag Team Championship w/ Arn Anderson vs Animal and Hawk in 1987

[@brandons6167]

I noticed Tully looks just like Hank from "Breaking Bad."

[@jayharvey7043]

I wonder if they knew they stole the show, still the best I Quit match of all time.

[@free_live_free-511]

Dusty Rhodes and Magnum TA used to hang out at my first babysitter's house. So, I got to hang out with them before I was old enough to form a memory of it.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

18:07 This is my favorite part when Tully is just shaking and screaming.

[@knight2000-NC]

I was at this match in Greensboro that night and was seriously upset Tully lost but I was 10 and didn't even know kayfabe was a thing. This stuff was real to some of us.

[@michaelallanrubin2376]

It was very real

[@jims.6393]

It's still real to me dammit!

[@AaronLesterMedia]

One of the greatest matches ever.

[@brandondavidson2200]

Tully looks like a fuckin mad man. I'm so glad we live in a time where all of this great shit is right at our fingertips

[@Jim-Tuner]

Magnum TA's exit from the ring was a small thing. But its part of what really made him and the match. After he wins, he gives Tully that "your garbage" look. Then he throws the belt over his shoulder and walks out like a man. Its all these years later and still nobody has come close to doing a match like that in terms of drama and intensity. Magnum TA really understood the psychology of being a tough babyface.

[@zachwhitlow4]

Exactly. None of this overcome with emotion crap. He looked like he felt the belt should've been his the whole time and it was another day at the office. So much in this match that is missing in wrestling today

[@keaddy123]

When wrestling was simple, and the Men knew how to work. Great Craftsman! Watched this match many times. Magnum was my Favorite wrestler back then. Great Athlete with good size and man was he intense in the ring. Very believable. God I miss this stuff. AWESOME!

[@VgnRaj]

What amazes me most about this match, is the economy of action. There was so much that happened in such a short match. The audience was never bored. The opposite of modern cage matches. These actually happened?

[@DFW817]

These watch alongs are better than anything wrestling on tv today. Jim knows how to bring out the old fans who miss real wrestling.

[@jameswest4259]

Love you Jim Cornette!

[@TheChwann]

This match was amazing. I started watching wrestling in 1996 but I catch myself loving these matches more and more.

[@tyler8652]

I had never seen this match before but listening to Cornette's commentary over this got it over with me. And don't let down that is was actually an awesome match too.

[@stevep4574]

I don't think Baby Doll was bigger than Tully. Both 5'10, Tully might have been 220 or so. But anyways, I heard this match was voted most popular match of all the Starrcades, very impressive and realistic match.

[@Bearwolf13]

This is my all time favorite I Quit Match. When all my friends started getting into Wrestling I would borrow my neighbors tapes and this is one of the matches I would show them the most. This match, the Roddy Piper vs Greg Valentine Dog Collar Match, Bret Hart vs Owen Hart at Wrestlemania X and any Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat match. Those are my go to matches to show what Wrestling is all about...

[@jonnybrotten1290]

Those are all greats but I have to ad 2 that I saw in person, Wahoo and Johnny Valentine, and Wahoo and Blackjack both 1hr. Broadways the best shit I have ever seen live and I was a wrestler for 22 yrs

[@Bearwolf13]

@@jonnybrotten1290 I never go to see Wahoo in his Heyday, I try to find as many videos as I can. I grew up in the 80's so he was way past his prime but still had a massive following and could throw down. I'm Native so he was a big deal in my house, my distant cousin is Chris Chavis aka Tantanka but when I was growing up before he went to the WWF he went by War Eagle Chris Chavis...

[@jonnybrotten1290]

@@Bearwolf13 I know Chris. He was manager of the health club in Fla. Then we both worked in South Atlantic Pro wrestling

[@Bearwolf13]

@@jonnybrotten1290 Yeah he's a good dude, and he made our Tribe proud. When I first saw him Wrestle live he was teaming with Wahoo who was working in the mentor role...

[@jonnybrotten1290]

@@Bearwolf13 yeah Chav from a long time ago, we actually wrestled in Lumberton one time and he brought this buried weightlifter powerlifter guy that was had been on strongest man or something oh, they were all good people

[@sammyriggs7111]

Hell of a match How bout a watch along of the Funks vs Abdullah and The Original Sheik from All Japan Wrestling?

[@briannorris796]

I can’t find the 86 Rock n Roll vs the Andersons cage match from starrcade

[@jeffrose8487]

way better than the wrestling today

[@dmitc94]

Did Tully say "I quit?!"

[@vivahernando1]

He did ……. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh …… I quiiiiiiitttttttttt

[@ems6706]

God this match is so good. Tully was very bulldogish, like he might be small but his body language, expression and the way he wrestled and sold I never noticed. He knew how to draw attention to his positives and hide the negatives like being small.

[@totallynotalpharius2283]

When I was younger and the Attitude era was in full swing, my dad had a vhs with this match on it and was like “my son you ain’t seen nothing til you seen this”

[@jamiestayready1897]

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ the best I quit match ever.

[@JulioHernandez-wy8nh]

Plz review Bret Hart vs Diesel at Survivor Series 95 or Rick Rude vs Ricky Steamboat at Beach Blast 92

[@mikekline2935]

Wrestling has been ruined in past how many years we will never get it back

[@jamiestayready1897]

I'm going to watch this tonight.

[@lukeharbolt7681]

When tully screams out at end " Yesssssss, Yessssss!" Epic

[@tellis313]

I just watched this for the first time. That was freakin sick 😮😮😮😮

[@chrisevans5933]

This was great, I only wish they did the whole PPV

[@RockSolidEJV420]

One my favorite matches of all time

[@johnnyj6718]

This was a great match.

[@col.murphy8946]

Full match on Dailymotion. 16:56

[@kristoferbatdorf2873]

I love the watch alongside, but I think it would be cool if along with their commentating on the professend of the match if they had somebody doin some kind of comments from a fans perspective of it, like jim and brian say this and this happened because of this amd the outcome was this, and you know someone saying from a fan view what all that caused from the way the fans felt or saw it.

[@chuckcalkins5184]

Tully is an awesome wrestler. He would be a feisty linebacker.

[@chrischar9428]

Too small

[@nateaustin5690]

One of my favorite matches of all time. I remember watching it as a 15 year old kid. It's one of the matches that sold me on NWA over WWF at the time because it was real.

[@stephenkinq5425]

JC , I felt every aspect of your Narrating the Story nd Match behind this Klassix. 💯 Pro-Wrestling has a diamond of a mind in JC 💎

[@jamiestayready1897]

Miss wrestling like this period.

[@angelesixbarrera]

17:35 I laughed my ass off🤣🤣

[@DavidLucas-oj6ju]

I watched that match on VHS it was brutally at its best in 80s

[@tibbs3165]

My favorite NWA match ever!

[@DaveMoth]

This was a classic match love it not seen it before. These watch alongs are great.

[@Dakatari]

Husband vs Ex husband should've been on marquee it definitely would've sold more seats

[@DethOfDrgnz]

We didn't get NWA where I lived in Ontario Canada, I saw this match on a VHS I rented it , it was one of the crockett cups, was the only nwa tape in the store or I had seen at any store. I was a instant fan of both wrestlers even though I had never seen them before. I though Magnam TA and Blanchard were awesome. I loved the intensity in this match. Sometmes I rather see simple aggressive moves then flashy high flyer spots. That real looking aggression can make matches great just like this one. One the best cage matches ever.

[@kennymcbair7323]

I Miss the 🤓Olden Dayz ! An the Build-Up to an good ole ‘Dream Match

[@TheDaveKrueger]

Thanks for deleting all of my comments Last, appreciate it 👍

[@luisg.407]

Dave Meltzer gave it 1 star. Not in Japan, no flips, no dives, no kick outs, no hug after the match, no dick spots.

[@rwfracing]

Thank you for this watch along. I have been wanting this watch along for a long long time. I was at that match in Greensboro sitting in the nose bleed seats. Watching that match live was great. Magnum and Tully both made you believe that they wanted to kill each other. I have wanted to hear Jim's take on this match and now my dream has come true. Thanks again you made my weekend. :)

[@JPS47]

Who knew a I Quit match in a cage could actually work?

[@naughtiusmaximus1811]

Aargh, where is the bell?!?!

[@Silentaslife]

How is Bryan so bad at doing a countdown?

[@Ted_Bell]

How are you whining about something every comment?

[@AJ-xv7oh]

How are you so bad at life?

[@sadetwizelve]

22:51-22:58 "thurryurleryurr"

[@Thanks2Me]

Tully should have ask the ref if he quit!

[@SuperFlanders123]

Jim couldn't be more right,if he wanted to be. 🙂

[@Qurosia]

What link did they follow for this one? Cornette mentions a graphic but all the dailymotion videos I can find don't have a graphic

[@AJ-xv7oh]

WWE Network

[@davidl4528]

Never watched this match before. Amazing!

[@jeffpatton2866]

I think the referee's name for the street fight was Steven Gregory. 2 years ago I showed this match to my son, who was 15 years old, and his response was, "Dad, they are trying to kill each other."

[@chrischar9428]

Yeah steven is black

[@shrews12001]

13:40 Tell my balls you quit!

[@jackmarsh4761]

Today's fans wouldn't go for this. The WWE has condition what's left of wrestling fans that it's a show just some folks out there doing moves. I don't think Jim gives Vince enough credit for the complete destruction of pro wrestling to be replaced by sports entertainment.

[@ronlitton9885]

That’s a good one

[@CARTOONIVERSE1]

Great match but Corny didn't call-it properly so *i never knew which part he was at.* The other watch-a-longs were much easier to watch.

[@dodgeram250]

Jim cornette is on point with everything he's saying,nobody wants to see all that flying donkeys and flipping Olympic stuff you posed to be telling a story

[@theterriblechildren9018]

How do I find this video?

[@tonyh1718]

This is a atg classic with one of the baddest finishers ever The post match of magnum considering whether to stab tully again as hes quivering in pain Simply cant be beat

[@PaulForingerJr.-um7vb]

I don't see it how do I watch it

[@donaldpainter956]

I hated Magnum t a Tully could out wrestle him without even trying Magnum sucked with the microphone but dusty and croket wanted him to be the great thing and he still messed it up so then along comes sting he did play it better than magnum

[@Gibson343088]

I find it quite funny that after this match The Midnight Express fight a dude in a dress and wig. But modern wrestling is goofy. Right Jim lol.

[@teddoran1123]

I just watched the match and thought the ref was one of the Hebners.

[@chrischar9428]

He said it was earl

[@mindlessdroid3630]

Wrestling was so much better when you sort of "knew" but they made you believe.

[@scrappy93]

That comb over is pretty bad. 😆

[@SaunKrystian]

I thought it was Jake the Snake. Lol The match www.dailymotion.com/video/x32jse

[@jeffreyloskoskill4901]

And I thought it was Samoa Joe!

[@AngrySanta]

This cuts off where to find this match. GG kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5nMcqSvetJ5n6M

[@jason666king]

Who's here because of Dax?

[@Station_AI]

It was good for the time but it wouldn't pass as a real fight when we have seen MMA, so if people aren't going to buy that it's a real fight anyway you might as well do cool athletic moves.

[@chrischar9428]

Yeah no

[@SantaDog81]

Color doesn't translate well to stockholders.

[@Gravydog316]

the match: www.dailymotion.com/video/x32jse

[@bryanelam7431]

It was so raw and real back then but the wwf/wwe did away with all that!!

[@michaelallanrubin2376]

Tully and magnum was stiff

[@lucasmoreira128]

wassup

[@jeffreyklima7612]

This is just as bad as modern wrestling.... smh

[@artmeddaugh6669]

This match was a real feud, boiling for 6 months, with real men that had a real distain for each other. This isn't script writing. This is a veteran champ, Tully, calling the spots and leading the match. It doesn't get more violent and bloody as this, their whole feud was like this match, but this was the ultimate blow-the-roof-off finale. Modern sports entertainment has absolutely nothing on this ultimate fight in a cage to see who the better man was!