"NOBODY SAW IT COMING" | Richard Jefferson On Playing With Young Steph and Klay

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JJ Redick

JJ Redick

Жыл бұрын

In this clip, Richard Jefferson talks about playing with young Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green on The Golden State Warriors. He talks about the impact he had on their young careers and if he ever thought they could become this type of dynasty.
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@JJRedick
@JJRedick Жыл бұрын
Obligatory full episode link! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnLHgnawq9yMiac
@b-radg916
@b-radg916 Жыл бұрын
GREAT clip JJ … I’ll check out the full interview!
@Primenumber19
@Primenumber19 Жыл бұрын
Question… why do we all pretend Draymond hasn’t had the yips for five years?
@jadengregg4832
@jadengregg4832 Жыл бұрын
No
@I_love_burnt_toast
@I_love_burnt_toast Жыл бұрын
It's so sad that a team that won by spending more than everyone else and by lucking into playing only injured teams could change the game, especially since they played the weakest style by shooting mostly 3s. The warriors deserve blame, not credit for pussifying the league.
@b-radg916
@b-radg916 Жыл бұрын
@@I_love_burnt_toast: So why is Steph Shaq’s favorite player? His play was anything but pussified.
@DawryMike
@DawryMike Жыл бұрын
That mid 2010s Warriors squad became the model for pretty much every team in the NBA. It was bizarre seeing one team in real time force the entire game of basketball to shift.
@mikemikeyee
@mikemikeyee Жыл бұрын
The dominance then was so mouthwatering.
@akeembrown7661
@akeembrown7661 Жыл бұрын
Felt like our lifetimes Jordan’s bulls. I never thought I would see a once a generation type team
@b-radg916
@b-radg916 Жыл бұрын
Their brand of basketball made me want to watch the game again. The only reason I don’t think I’m a Warriors bandwagon is that the last time I was into basketball was when I was a kid watching Nate Thurmond and Rick Barry! #Dubs 👊🏽
@felix3033
@felix3033 Жыл бұрын
No they didn’t lol the 2014 Spurs did .
@felix3033
@felix3033 Жыл бұрын
@@akeembrown7661 Spurs ??
@olivermichael7152
@olivermichael7152 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say this, the best thing about this podcast is there is absolutely no cutting the other person off, you say your piece then they do. JJ you’re an amazing host
@phillipparedes6444
@phillipparedes6444 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@Handle9
@Handle9 Жыл бұрын
That's a fact I sometimes find myself looking for a different podcast with the same guest for that reason lol.
@romerobryan83
@romerobryan83 Жыл бұрын
Cuz they were both very smart players
@bradzukerman9141
@bradzukerman9141 Жыл бұрын
💯 It’s not always horrible for a host to interject gracefully interject, but there are some hosts who just seem absolutely incapable of giving their guests any space whatsoever, and it’s awwwfulllll. [lookin at you David Aldridge 👀]
@Jamesah
@Jamesah Жыл бұрын
​@@romerobryan83 yep and cuz they are smart they are asking good questions and giving good answers...
@kendalldavis6082
@kendalldavis6082 Жыл бұрын
The most underrated part of Steph’s game is his stamina and endurance. He has the lungs of a professional cross country runner. And that’s what makes him such a threat off ball even well into his 30s. So many players talk about how drained they are after having to run around the court guarding him off ball.
@kevindelavega3746
@kevindelavega3746 Жыл бұрын
Fr, even after packing on at least 10 lbs of muscle
@yg2522
@yg2522 Жыл бұрын
Steph litterally put delavodova in the hospital by just running him into the ground.
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Ahmari223
@Ahmari223 Жыл бұрын
@@yg2522 facts that’s crazy
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
Curry doesn’t even look winded after running so much
@fahmyboy1
@fahmyboy1 Жыл бұрын
When he said “I forgot you were here” to Tommy 😂😂
@AkaiiUsweet
@AkaiiUsweet Жыл бұрын
I felt the same way
@bikesandbutts315
@bikesandbutts315 Жыл бұрын
"i know, it happens" was so quick lmao
@DRodTrucking
@DRodTrucking Жыл бұрын
I forgot about him too 😂
@felix3033
@felix3033 Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t provide anything to the show JJ needs to get rid of him
@Des_from_the_Wes
@Des_from_the_Wes Жыл бұрын
@@felix3033 no
@henrywitherspoon8064
@henrywitherspoon8064 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad RJ mentioned David Lee he's very underrated
@mlee4467
@mlee4467 Жыл бұрын
He used to put up nasty numbers with the knicks
@H0tDawgWater911
@H0tDawgWater911 Жыл бұрын
💯
@dogshxtgames3257
@dogshxtgames3257 Жыл бұрын
mad underrated
@arco718
@arco718 Жыл бұрын
I know most recent all stars, however I had never even heard the name David Lee before this video
@terrancecarmichael619
@terrancecarmichael619 Жыл бұрын
@@arco718 Damn go back and watch some highlights. I wasn’t old enough to watch him in his prime but when I started watching 2011-2012 he was still pretty good on the Warriors.
@kbar5821
@kbar5821 Жыл бұрын
One of the most amazing things about Steph's career arc is that he could (and should) have won Most Improved Player in 2016 after winning the MVP in 2015!
@ReggieRob
@ReggieRob Жыл бұрын
FACTS! It was unbelievable to see
@themomofmemes467
@themomofmemes467 10 ай бұрын
Then lost a 3-1 lead to LeBron. So improved! Def MVP
@12tac0cat21
@12tac0cat21 10 ай бұрын
​@@themomofmemes467reminder that 3-1 is also stephs record against lebron in the finals
@themomofmemes467
@themomofmemes467 10 ай бұрын
@@12tac0cat21 Reminder that it's 2-1. One of those doesn't count
@mrkickinthesky
@mrkickinthesky 10 ай бұрын
@@themomofmemes467 the mvp and most improved is a regular season award,you stop the season at conference finals,steph would have overtaken lebron,it was at the finals lebron proved himself to be still the best by leading everyone in all 5 major categories,but dont pretent like it didnt went to 7 games to the final posession,kyrie had to hit that super clutch 3 ,they needed the suspension vs draymond ,otherwise it would have ended in 5,and kyrie and bron had to play out of their minds in the final 3 games,while steph underperformed,be it cause of injury or mind games,but all that and it still went to a game 7 ,only loosing by one posession,you needed one of the best,if not the best player,your 2nd best player to play historically good,league interference and warriors injuries to the inside ,just to win by one posession in 7 games,i dont think its a shame,it hurts but if you take in all those factors...
@cwflet01
@cwflet01 Жыл бұрын
That "What if David Lee never got injured" is without question the BIGGEST what if. In hindsight, it completely changed basketball.
@listeinn
@listeinn Жыл бұрын
like their opponents didn't get injured... give me a break lol
@cwflet01
@cwflet01 Жыл бұрын
@@listeinn what does the opponents injuries have to do with what I’ve said? Guess you just needed to get something off.
@TheRipePunani
@TheRipePunani Жыл бұрын
@@listeinn Bruh you completely missed the point lmao
@aaronhutchinson885
@aaronhutchinson885 Жыл бұрын
You're right. I've said this for years..he doesn't get injured. We don't see Point Draymond, thus we don't see Steph the way he is now
@TheColdest510
@TheColdest510 Жыл бұрын
Blessings in disguise tbh
@rockjm9876543210
@rockjm9876543210 Жыл бұрын
That 73 win season was draymond's best offensive season. Dude was a legit 3rd scorer. 14 ppg, 9.5 rpg, and 7.4 apg. While shooting 38% from 3.
@chinoxSD
@chinoxSD Жыл бұрын
The fact draymond was also the best defender on that team and could switch legitimately 1 thru 5 and still be consistent on the offensive floor ...that was peak green thru year 2015-2019
@samknight9825
@samknight9825 Жыл бұрын
What’s insane is that he’s still insane on defense and can still hold his own on the offensive end
@therealsoeazy
@therealsoeazy Жыл бұрын
Say what you want about Dray, but you slot prime Draymond on any all-time team and they are always going to get better - he is the perfect glue guy.
@aa-jx5zz
@aa-jx5zz Жыл бұрын
Playing 2k with that team small ball 1st 5 out line up curry klay Iggy barnes and green🙌👍💯
@philliposkaypaghian
@philliposkaypaghian Жыл бұрын
Draymond could’ve averaged that for a couple more years but once KD joined he obviously was gonna be the fall guy, i feel like those years stunted his growth as a shooter/scorer
@thorfinnthegoatmc
@thorfinnthegoatmc Жыл бұрын
20 years from now we will still be talking about the greatness of Steph Curry
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
and off each player. We tend to take lightly the fact that they broke the Bulls 72-10 record. Everybody said that record would be untouched.
@andystrub7930
@andystrub7930 Жыл бұрын
20 years from now? That's an insult to Steph. As long as basketball is being played and people are talking about it Stephs name will be a part of the game just like Kareems, Kobes, Larry's, Magics, Michael's, etc...He is in that class of greatest players of all time and will always be talked about as such.
@thorfinnthegoatmc
@thorfinnthegoatmc Жыл бұрын
@@andystrub7930 FACTS BRO ALSO CURRY >>>> MAGIC when its all said and done
@BalanceBalls
@BalanceBalls Жыл бұрын
Steph and these Warriors will be talked about until the end of times no doubt 💯
@yerik6034
@yerik6034 11 ай бұрын
If people still talk about kareem, bill Russell, wilt and bird, curry will be talked about till the end of time
@ABruhMan
@ABruhMan Жыл бұрын
I love Curry stories man, dude really changed the NBA
@qqw743
@qqw743 Жыл бұрын
"Would Draymond be as good on another team" can easily be answered by watching him in international play. In Tokyo for example, KD was the obvious scoring leader, but Draymond was doing everything else like he always does. Elite NBA players on the team were on the bench so that USA could have Draymond's defense, passing, picks, intensity, etc.
@kpkafle
@kpkafle Жыл бұрын
I noticed in the Olympics if Team USA was having problems and started losing in games. Coach Pop would put Draymond in to stabilize and change the momentum of the team. He knew that Draymond would make the right and simple plays. International rules basketball is so different than NBA basketball but Draymond had the confidence and respect of his team mates. The three best players for Team USA were Durant, Jrue Holiday and Draymond in a team that included Booker, Tatum and Lillard. It's not that these players were not good but the older guys were more experienced and could adapt their game better to international rules.
@WidgetWagyu47292
@WidgetWagyu47292 Жыл бұрын
@@kpkafle damn I wish I had watched live I missed the Team USA Olympics run
@theressakimbrough2867
@theressakimbrough2867 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! People really underestimate Draymond's bball IQ. Dude is hella smart!
@getmoneychill6462
@getmoneychill6462 Жыл бұрын
In the great words of Stephen A Smith Draymond is a basketball savant
@anhiirr
@anhiirr Жыл бұрын
not just IQ but PEDIGREE. Pedigree is everything
@allonisaacs8765
@allonisaacs8765 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think RJ played with Steph, Klay, and Draymond!
@nickjcirillo
@nickjcirillo Жыл бұрын
And then lebron kyrie and love
@JJRedick
@JJRedick Жыл бұрын
It really is
@allonisaacs8765
@allonisaacs8765 Жыл бұрын
@JJ Redick And then beat them, while being on the Cavs championship team!
@demetrisosei2415
@demetrisosei2415 Жыл бұрын
@@nickjcirillo and Jason Kidd and kawhi I think
@dogshxtgames3257
@dogshxtgames3257 Жыл бұрын
and before all that VC
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 Жыл бұрын
Always be grateful to Jerry West for making sure they didn’t trade Klay.
@jordanbarclay4434
@jordanbarclay4434 Жыл бұрын
When we’re they going to trade klay
@renenhfule
@renenhfule Жыл бұрын
@@jordanbarclay4434 for Kevin Love in 2014 before the Cavs did. Deal would've been Kevin Love for Klay and Harrison Barnes
@tindao7708
@tindao7708 Жыл бұрын
@Brian Charleston he worked as an advisor with golden state. He protested against the trade
@Deathnote819
@Deathnote819 Жыл бұрын
Jerry west was a consultant with the team at the time and he threatened to leave his job if they traded klay and west was helping lead roster decisions at the time and they didn’t want him to go bc he was the architect behind 2-3 dynasties in the past so they listened
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
@Brian Charleston Jerry West told the Warriors “if you trade Klay, I quit”
@patrickwilliamscoaching
@patrickwilliamscoaching Жыл бұрын
Those warrior teams were so crazy fun to watch. The perfect blend of players with Livingston, Iggy, Bogut, the role players were so locked in.
@noahdaugherty8235
@noahdaugherty8235 9 ай бұрын
Locked in and committed to their roles. That was key. No one had an ego, no matter how many years played, accolades achieved, or minutes they used to get. Steph helps set that tone I think with his unselfishness
@bobwiegers
@bobwiegers Жыл бұрын
RJ is a unique mix of super insightful, kinda funny, and a great big jerk. great interview.
@SoulDuJour
@SoulDuJour Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, but it's like necessary jerk to make the insightful part funny
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt Жыл бұрын
RJ is the type where if he's not capping on you, it's because he doesn't like you..
@chinaskibukowski7747
@chinaskibukowski7747 Жыл бұрын
In an interview Andrew Bogut confirmed Draymond was asking to get traded off the team because Jackson rarely used him. That David Lee injury not only gave Draymond the opportunity to play more it also ensured Draymond didn't traded. Jackson really had no idea how to use Green.
@sratnatozmrde
@sratnatozmrde Жыл бұрын
many coaches dont have any idea how many gems they have on team and how to work with them.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Жыл бұрын
And other players on that team. Jackson is a good coach to hire after a team has stunk for a while…But not to keep long term
@JuliettKilo
@JuliettKilo Жыл бұрын
@@newagain9964 Jackson is one those coaches that can bring their team to playoff but no any further, like Doc River.
@vinnyl264
@vinnyl264 Жыл бұрын
@@JuliettKilo doc river won a title…
@JosepinoRizal
@JosepinoRizal 10 ай бұрын
@@vinnyl264yes but he have the most blown 3-1 lead too.
@shaquilhoskins3078
@shaquilhoskins3078 Жыл бұрын
I love Steph bcuz he made me sound like BBall philosopher bcuz his run in the March Madness was my 1st time watching college ball and I told all my friends he’s goin to change the league he proved me right thanks so much Steph 🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣
@LeviNotik
@LeviNotik Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shaq
@samtvmedia5066
@samtvmedia5066 Жыл бұрын
@@LeviNotik^
@JSmith-kh4vo
@JSmith-kh4vo Жыл бұрын
I wish RJ could be a part of the podcast with you guys the chemistry is there.
@MarcoForesto
@MarcoForesto Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@juanemiliocanela1441
@juanemiliocanela1441 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@quilenblackwell4820
@quilenblackwell4820 Жыл бұрын
Richard Jefferson is the definition of being unapologetically HIMSELF and literally not caring what anyone thinks about him. Makes him a great pundit and media personality!
@abyan63
@abyan63 Жыл бұрын
This was so refreshing to watch, by the time I knew it the video was done. No grown men yelling, no interjecting, allowing the others to clarify their theories, intelligent basketball IQ! One of the best basketball podcast out there, along with AllTheSmoke Podcast. Well done!
@John-ct9zs
@John-ct9zs 11 ай бұрын
I remember back around 2015 it felt like the Steph/Klay Warriors just came out of nowhere, shooting from all over the court. They completely changed the game. In 2012, 2013, it was still the old NBA, with the Spurs, Heat still competing, and other teams like the Kobe Lakers and Dirk Mavericks were hanging around. Then all of a sudden, almost overnight the league changed in 2015 with the Steph/Klay Warriors.
@armonbrown213
@armonbrown213 10 ай бұрын
Yurp yurp
@jpete3027666
@jpete3027666 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a warriors fan for 30 years and I thought that early Steph/Klay team was good and they’d be a playoff team for years but I never thought they would be championship caliber. I’m still amazed.
@MrFraiche
@MrFraiche Жыл бұрын
RJ speaks at the right intelligent level that JJ needs on the channel. This should be the new Stephen A and Skip. Real basketball talk, not a bunch of angry dudes talking nonsense.
@mrantonio7656
@mrantonio7656 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@khwezi_bass
@khwezi_bass Жыл бұрын
They could add him and get the 3rd guy to be more of a moderator.
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I saw a nice chemistry here. He adds just enought jokes to balanced it all out.
@jahper3426
@jahper3426 Жыл бұрын
Gotta be the most articulate duo in basketball media.
@5N0023
@5N0023 Жыл бұрын
7:49 "I forgot you were here." Bro why did RJ do him like that 😂💀
@damonfranklin1351
@damonfranklin1351 Жыл бұрын
I’ve gained much more respect for Steph’s career as it’s gone by. I’ll be honest that I used to be a nonbeliever but he’s so special. Glad I grew up in this era of basketball
@butlar265
@butlar265 Жыл бұрын
People don't credit Draymond enough for figuring out what to do to compliment the shooting of both of them
@rlawson598
@rlawson598 Жыл бұрын
Game four of last year's finals defines Steph for me. The way he can will or carry that team to win sometimes despite what Klay or Draymond are contributing. In his full-on Batman mode, anybody can be his Robin. He and Wiggins were in basketball nirvana in that series. Steph will always be the catalyst..
@sftheletters
@sftheletters Жыл бұрын
RJ is right. Where the Warriors truly changed basketball is by proving teams could win championships with a small ball 5. Dray was/is savvy enough to guard bigger players, and Steph & Klay would torch teams that rolled out multiple big men on switches. That versatility made them a dynasty. Obviously Steph is the catalyst of it all, arguably a top 5 player of all time but Draymonds versatility also made them nearly unbeatable.
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt Жыл бұрын
It's the perfect mix.. two all-time shooters and a all-time 'glue/defense first guy'.. Props to GS front office.. When they said 'light years..', they weren't joking, lol.. Injuries and the rest of the league caught up with them.. but Steph is arguably better now, than then.. Older.. wiser.. but more importantly, STRONGER.. he's yolk'd now and has the wind of an Ethiopian long distance runner.. His game will age like fine wine (Klay's too) as he can just sit in the corner and provide spacing for the Poole/Kuminga PnR in the future..
@sebthelobster
@sebthelobster Жыл бұрын
Individually, Steph dray and klay have all glaring weakness in their game. But together it’s just a beautiful thing. Almost like a perfectly balanced D&D team designed to take down whatever monsters coming their way.
@ezyryder11
@ezyryder11 3 ай бұрын
Except the Lakers in the 2023 playoffs. Sad 😢 until then, they never lost a series when all together and healthy
@careymahoney4058
@careymahoney4058 Жыл бұрын
"I forgot you were here." "It happens. Frequently." Poor Tommy, lol
@Justjo3223
@Justjo3223 Жыл бұрын
Warriors fan here from before and after the we believe team. Everything they touched on is true. Been a blessing getting to witness this from our home team
@SirGenesis206
@SirGenesis206 Жыл бұрын
Steph is absolutely a shooting guard that sometimes plays point. And good on the coaches for seeing that, sticking with Draymond, and letting him loose.
@yaMamaStillLuveMeTho
@yaMamaStillLuveMeTho Жыл бұрын
As a real life long warriors fans I loved this conversation and how they explored and understood the full trajectory we took...they hit the nail on the coffin! With so many points and aspects..I talk about about of these different subjects with the warriors all the time....great convo!
@RedE4NBA2K
@RedE4NBA2K Жыл бұрын
Honestly you could see Steph was gonna be an offensive juggernaut if he could just stay healthy, obviously not to the level he has become, but Klay I felt really came out of nowhere.
@cheerioss-9121
@cheerioss-9121 Жыл бұрын
No you couldn’t.
@RedE4NBA2K
@RedE4NBA2K Жыл бұрын
@@cheerioss-9121 yes you definitely could. I thought him and Brandon Jennings were gonna be the next generation of future star PGs. We know what happened with Jennings, but the potential was there for both of them. Never thought Steph was gonna change how basketball is played obviously, but point is u knew he was gonna be offensively one of the best players in the league if he stayed healthy, because the only thing stopping him early in his career were his constant ankle injuries.
@duffman1876
@duffman1876 Жыл бұрын
I always say this!!! Real one's remember da early G-State in 2K12-14😅😅🍻🍺
@jordanbarclay4434
@jordanbarclay4434 Жыл бұрын
Mark jackson is a max genius I never thought curry would be that good not after those injuries either nobody really expected him to be that if they tell the truth I mean first unanimous mvp you thought that would be Lebron or kobe or Kevin but curry at the time no never seen it coming
@dadagaming1260
@dadagaming1260 Жыл бұрын
I started to become a fan since B Davis and J richardson we believe era
@LilBoSkeetE85
@LilBoSkeetE85 2 ай бұрын
Reals ones became a GS fan the day Steph was drafted.
@ballislife1616
@ballislife1616 11 ай бұрын
It’s amazing looking back what the Warriors accomplished, and they’re still going. Gives me that nostalgic feel 🥹
@chefjonsf
@chefjonsf Жыл бұрын
As a lifetime Warrior fan, I never saw it coming. I thought Steph would be a great roll player at best. Unbelievable.
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow lifelong Warrior fan, I thought he’d be a great statistical leader on yet another sub 500 Warriors squad. So glad I was wrong.
@xembones
@xembones Жыл бұрын
at the time I was telling people that they should trade him for picks and try to draft Austin Rivers.. good thing im not a gm😅
@Stardust414
@Stardust414 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy the 2 of you together. I’ve long been a fan of JJ (I’m a lifelong Duke fan 🤷🏼‍♀️) but RJ has really grown on me the past few yrs and yes, I’m a Warriors fan 🙌🏼
@arshdeepkaur3377
@arshdeepkaur3377 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for giving a shoutout to my favourite basketball trio of all time! Love my Dubs and love ya guys for this 💕
@jerryking2194
@jerryking2194 Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest modern era basketball clips
@Jollighe
@Jollighe Жыл бұрын
The death lineup was so lethal it was scary and fun to watch at the same time.
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 Жыл бұрын
The Hampton 5..Steph, Klay, Draymond, Iggy, Bogut
@cy3000
@cy3000 Жыл бұрын
@@boondockbwoy14 Hampton 5 was with KD because they recruited him at a meeting in a Hampton, no?
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
@@cy3000 Correct. Bogut was the dubs starting center, but was never a part of the Death lineup nor the Hampton 5.
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
It felt like every time was just scared/angry at them. They would give it their all and still lose.
@peterthegreat100
@peterthegreat100 Жыл бұрын
@@cy3000 yes, the Hampton 5 lineup was Steph, Klay, Draymond, KD & Iguodala
@NoVisionGuy
@NoVisionGuy Жыл бұрын
I immediately joined the Warriors bandwagon in 2014, I knew that team would be magical.
@easymoneyrad
@easymoneyrad Жыл бұрын
Love dray and jj’s pdocast, they just know how to talk and interview and dissect the game and players
@letmediecast
@letmediecast Жыл бұрын
The "not understanding why Draymond is a valuable" trope is THE dividing line between people who watch basketball and people who understand basketball.
@janicerichards8959
@janicerichards8959 Жыл бұрын
No lies told here Dear❤❤❤
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny when I see people STILL say Draymond is useless or that all he does is kick people in the nuts.
@user-gm5gc1be4w
@user-gm5gc1be4w Жыл бұрын
He’s useful but at times he’s emotions can negatively affect the team. I.e 2016 suspension, fighting KD, and Poole punch
@user-gm5gc1be4w
@user-gm5gc1be4w Жыл бұрын
I still rock with him though but if he keeps a lot of these antics up I won’t be surprised if he’s gone as his play declines and he gets older.
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
@@user-gm5gc1be4w yes when he lets his emotions take over, it can negatively affect the team. OP’s point is when people don’t understand his value, all they see are his flaws and lack of scoring.
@hoppy23
@hoppy23 Жыл бұрын
Steph isn't a pg like steoh said himself call me whatever you want regardless of position he's one of the best basketball players the game has ever scene and he actually creates more looks for his teammates on and off ball combined then anyone in the league
@janicerichards8959
@janicerichards8959 Жыл бұрын
Yes Dear Facts ❤❤❤
@RealRoryVLOGS
@RealRoryVLOGS Жыл бұрын
I love hearing people talk about basketball who really kno what they’re talking about 💯
@RockyTucsonPaik
@RockyTucsonPaik Жыл бұрын
Great content! Thanks for posting
@Qharisma
@Qharisma Жыл бұрын
I love RJ .... I actually loved him as a player ... but even more as a commentator ... I need friends like RJ.
@mithicash1444
@mithicash1444 Жыл бұрын
On the contrary, my Highschool coach saw it coming in 2011. His number one emphasis when shooting was a quick release. We had drills where all we practiced was quick release. Looking back that is what Steph and Klay thrived on
@MARISSAFEHERRADURA
@MARISSAFEHERRADURA Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your podcast a lot because you are both articulate and insightful thus easy to listen to.
@NZV13
@NZV13 Жыл бұрын
Im not a big fan of GSW and this era of basketball but i remember just telling to a friend that the warriors were something we never saw 1 or 2 years before steve kerr arrived... They were spectacular back then
@IconicClipsForYou
@IconicClipsForYou Жыл бұрын
So much intelligent insight of basketball here.
@Itz_Marni-_-
@Itz_Marni-_- Жыл бұрын
7:29 I feel the same way bout ky, that says a lot about how good steph is at PG. To JJ’s last point that’s y they have 4 rings, individually would thrive but grew and still r together.
@RoLLUpAFat1
@RoLLUpAFat1 Жыл бұрын
Feels good to live that decade and witness the shift in the NBA. Dubs 🎉
@aidancullen852
@aidancullen852 Жыл бұрын
I tear up a little when draymond gets his flowers man I love it
@TheGallant9
@TheGallant9 Жыл бұрын
They played like the Bad Boy Pistons, Zeke, Joe and Vinny were interchangeable at the 1 and 2 spot. The difference is that Steph was really benevolent in sharing the ball. Even if you wanna call him a 2 guard the guard wants to have the ball in his hands and Steph was willing to come off the ball for people to get touches. That's a real General. Richard always tryna find ways to diminish Steph with back handed compliments. Even tho it's Larry Bird folks always find ways to say LeBron is the Best Small Forward ever but don't mention he scores primarily at the rim, he doesn't space the floor and is a horrible free throw shooter to be at the wing position but no one ever calls him a undersized Center or Power Forward. They always try to find passive aggressive ways to hate Steph, especially anyone who played on that Cavs team, weather its Bron making Steph and Klay tombstones to step over at his party, weather that's Richard Tristan or Kendrick hating on him on NBA networks. The only Cav who didn't hate on Steph was Tye Lue who came out and said they still Doubled Steph even with KD on the Floor and even KD finds ways to shade Steph on social media, he got mad about that
@sauldula
@sauldula 4 ай бұрын
It's not a diss, it's a fact. Steph's movement off ball was their most effective offense. When he ran point you could trap him in the pick and roll, off ball there was damn near no defense for iggys smart cuts, and drays passing with the defense jumping at every steoh and klay curl
@BrenttttttMCMXC
@BrenttttttMCMXC Жыл бұрын
this is the best podcast i watched at this day in JJ youtube👍🤭
@GenghisClaus
@GenghisClaus Жыл бұрын
i could listen to these two talk basketball literally forever
@gsp3428
@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын
If they traded Steph instead of Monte, there is no warriors.
@cheerioss-9121
@cheerioss-9121 Жыл бұрын
Bucks would’ve been the dynasty with Giannis and Steph
@gsp3428
@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын
@@cheerioss-9121 Would they have been able to draft giannis. If you had giannis and steph on the same time, at least now they would be hard to beat. It took Giannis about 4 years to really become a great player though.
@cheerioss-9121
@cheerioss-9121 Жыл бұрын
@@gsp3428 It’s actually scary how these time tables actually match up, lmao. Monte gets traded in 2012. Steph has ankle problems very early in his career so it’s in play that the bucks definitely are still bad enough to get a top pick. Giannis is drafted just one year after this deal haha. So if Steph ankles continue to be the problem that’s a plus for the bucks. You say it took Giannis four years to really develop. Steph doesn’t break out and really become Steph until 2015. That’s 2years with Giannis on the team. Steph and Giannis if they just develop and build the team correctly literally would’ve both been hitting their primes at similar times
@gsp3428
@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын
@@cheerioss-9121 Yeah that would be pretty amazing, they are actually the two most improved players that have ever played. I didnt think Steph would even make it in the league when he came to the NBA, and then he was a pretty good player his first 4 years,and developed into in my opinion the greatest point guard ever. Giannis was a guy who you might have thought would maybe make a couple all star teams at his peak when he developed, but in my opinion is one of the greatest players ever, could be the GOAT if he ever developed an consistent jumpshot which he is convident in. But a steph and Giannis team would be better than Kobe Shaq or Jordan and Pippen in my opinion.
@bigpimpin3098
@bigpimpin3098 Жыл бұрын
RJ is dead wrong on Steph being a shooting guard. What makes Steph so lethal is that as soon as he crosses half court with the ball, he's a threat to pull the trigger. This stretches the defense out and helps other players get open. He is also the best off the dribble shooter ever, so you wouldn't see that as much if he was a shooting guard.
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
He said he plays more similar to a shooting guard. Steph is literally a modern pg.
@JoseVargas-bs8gx
@JoseVargas-bs8gx Жыл бұрын
what a fantastic convo.
@justinoliver4053
@justinoliver4053 Жыл бұрын
Every all time great had elite teammates. People need to constantly be reminded that this at the end of the day is a team game.
@saycheese6773
@saycheese6773 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Klay slightly changed his shorting form post injuries. You can tell their is a slight difference.
@yonisbadar2129
@yonisbadar2129 Жыл бұрын
I watched Golden State back then the same way I watch the thunder rn
@bw7754
@bw7754 10 ай бұрын
Saw him play at the socon tourney right before his first run in the NCAA’s. Everyone in the gym knew he was special
@marcbrown6084
@marcbrown6084 2 ай бұрын
I love hearing people that sound so smart about a thing that I don’t feel inadequate bc they are just that good
@adanomics5997
@adanomics5997 Жыл бұрын
Mark Jackson seen it coming.
@philbuttler3427
@philbuttler3427 Жыл бұрын
I think Steph now would be good on any team but Steph when he came in the league idk he clearly had the stuff there to be good but I really believe every top player has the potential to be great and it's coaches and orginizations that see it and know what to foster to get them there. Like Steph and Steve Kerr were perfect for each other like Tim Duncan and Pop were and it took the absolute confidence Kerr had in Steph to get him the opportunity he excelled at. So idk if Steph would be the same player if he went to a team coached by say Larry Brown who hated 3s and just didn't use them.
@jordanb.4514
@jordanb.4514 9 ай бұрын
Richard is a top 3 guest of yours in my opinion
@BlackroastTerrierfinches
@BlackroastTerrierfinches 2 ай бұрын
I would live for JJ and Jefferson to have their own show on ESPN. Both arent boring and well spoken 👏 👌
@hansolodolo1672
@hansolodolo1672 Жыл бұрын
I saw it coming in 2013. All they needed was a healthy Bogut the whole time. They would've had more championships. It's only a hypothetical now.
@MauricioSouza-93
@MauricioSouza-93 Жыл бұрын
People hold up LeBron and Giannis as examples of dominance these days, but Stephen Curry is in that category as well. I AM NOT putting Stephen over LeBron and Giannis, but since he debuted in the league, he dominates the league, not physically like Giannis and LeBron, but talent. It's been a decade and they still can't stop Curry, that's dominance too. He changed the game and it's been ten years and he's still one of the best and unstoppable.
@Ntwolf1220
@Ntwolf1220 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Dominance doesn’t have to mean physical dominance like Lebron and Giannis
@countertenorflor2107
@countertenorflor2107 Жыл бұрын
lebrun has never dominant the league, dude needs at least an elite squad to begin with 😂 and he gets away with his travellings and flagrant fauls all the time!
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
I know its your personal setting but in reality Steph and Bron are at the same level. Giannis still has time to get there but come one now.
@blue-phoenix115
@blue-phoenix115 Жыл бұрын
2:07 Very endearing use of that phrase.
@ChrisTreborn
@ChrisTreborn Жыл бұрын
Yo. This is what we’ve been wanting to hear.
@jorgeparada8101
@jorgeparada8101 Жыл бұрын
To put in perspective, Rudy Fernandez held the record for most threes in a season as a rookie until Curry came out.
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
WHO?!?!
@jarrensleezluis3878
@jarrensleezluis3878 Жыл бұрын
Exactly daymond needs more recognition for playing the 5 at 6’6
@Marekeb
@Marekeb Жыл бұрын
Dang my two fav analysts together
@edsondepina8430
@edsondepina8430 Жыл бұрын
JJ AND RJ 🔥🔥🔥🔥, 2 great minds , the pod would be much better with you two
@shondarby-mcconnell1502
@shondarby-mcconnell1502 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to RJ for talking about David Lee people forget that man was A hopper and I bet they keep him over Draymond if the injury doesnt happen
@brewer921
@brewer921 Жыл бұрын
The first jump shooting team to win a title was the Dirk Mavericks.
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
I mean it was just Dirk going beast mode.
@circlebox3
@circlebox3 Жыл бұрын
So if that's your arguement, could I say 2008 Celtics was also a jump shooting team because the big three KG, PP and Ray are all good at shooting the ball? I don't think that alone makes them a jump shooting team, right?
@brewer921
@brewer921 Жыл бұрын
​@@circlebox3 Do you really think I'm just talking about Dirk? I called them the Dirk Mavericks as a way of describing the 2011 Mavericks. As a whole, they were a jump shooting team. I would not consider KG a jump shooter.
@brewer921
@brewer921 Жыл бұрын
@@alejandroserrano7755 and Kidd, Terry, Peja and DeShawn Stevenson hitting jumpers.
@oudadhakim1857
@oudadhakim1857 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I questioned whether jj was the smartest basketball mind on the podcast, and I'm all for it!
@Idkyou89
@Idkyou89 Жыл бұрын
I remember playing college hoops 2k8 and I would use Davidson because I watched a few of stephs college games and I was like damn this kid is good I wanna use him in a video game and then he ends up being the greatest shooter to ever live!
@RunitsFox
@RunitsFox Жыл бұрын
If Steph trained he could probably got to the Olympics for the Mile 😭 🔥
@gregoryharlston0602
@gregoryharlston0602 Жыл бұрын
You’re insane! If you really think that, then you don’t understand how good/fast those guys are! Steph would get SMOKED!
@RunitsFox
@RunitsFox Жыл бұрын
@@gregoryharlston0602 smh I clearly said if he trained , your a goofy if you don’t think a professional athlete can’t be trained for other sports .
@cineglasses
@cineglasses Жыл бұрын
7:49 me too RJ lmaoo
@Born2Win7774
@Born2Win7774 2 ай бұрын
"They were moving faster than the defense can act" that perfectly encapsulated that 73-9 team, their movement was truly a work of art that has yet been replicated.
@kevinumber7
@kevinumber7 11 ай бұрын
I remember the playoffs when Curry and Thompson developed audacious shot making, and thinking, watch out NBA. They completely revolutionized efficiency by 3 pts, and what's great is nobody else who replicate that are as good. They stormed in the era of outside shooting and left Charles Barkeley forever in denial (no chips)
@kevinjames60
@kevinjames60 Жыл бұрын
I still think Steph is the catalyst for the game changing. Without Stephs elite shooting, Klay be another great shooter and Dray would be a defender without that playmaking
@lorddj9910
@lorddj9910 Жыл бұрын
Vice versa
@butlar265
@butlar265 Жыл бұрын
@@lorddj9910 True. Without the spacing both of them provide and the intelligence of Draymond with those passes the game doesn't sway to shooting as much
@bagchaser326
@bagchaser326 Жыл бұрын
@@lorddj9910 nah because Steph is also a great ball handler and has vision. Klay doesn’t have handles and draymond can’t space the floor… Steph is the main reason for all of it lol
@alejandroserrano7755
@alejandroserrano7755 Жыл бұрын
I think its a mixture of everything. Those guys individually are great players but together? Unstoppable. They implemented so many things. Shooting 3s, small ball lineup, quick fast break points, good defense, etc.
@jeffhardy6333
@jeffhardy6333 Жыл бұрын
You have to throw in Harden and Rockets. I think more teams use their model than the Warriors. They changed the game just as much imo
@jacobboen7611
@jacobboen7611 Жыл бұрын
I remember Draymond getting benched in the first finals and Lee saving the day
@kbar5821
@kbar5821 Жыл бұрын
He didn't save the day, they lost Game 3 but what he did show Dray during that loss was the way to attack the Cavs PnR coverage was to make quick decisions on the short roll to press the 4 on 3 advantage. Worked perfectly in Game 4 along with the lineup change and the rest is history.
@tapone6621
@tapone6621 Жыл бұрын
I did💯 Peeped it 2013... The Warriors franchise shaped Klay into the shooter he is today due to lack of athleticism compared to Ellis who they traded a season or two before Klays arrival
@funguy2380
@funguy2380 Жыл бұрын
Watching that 2014 and 2015 of drop coverage on that warriors team was hilarious to watch
@dewshr
@dewshr Жыл бұрын
By RJ definition joker is a point guard
@chaset.3249
@chaset.3249 Жыл бұрын
he's a point center
@ebilimmiri
@ebilimmiri Жыл бұрын
Even Klay knows Steph is the God shooter. Good try RJ
@stonedecatur6602
@stonedecatur6602 Жыл бұрын
What? Klay is 11th all time in three pointer made
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
@@stonedecatur6602 Klay knows his own value, but has openly admitted Curry is the best shooter of all time
@joshcook
@joshcook Жыл бұрын
That series is when I became a warriors fan
@zionplays2918
@zionplays2918 Жыл бұрын
The way he holds the pen like he's actually noting or writing something down is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
@gsp3428
@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын
Warriors would have won even if they traded Klay for Love. As long as Steph was there they can win.
@setsen941108
@setsen941108 Жыл бұрын
L take, keep forgetting about Game 6 Klay and third quarter Klay. Klay don't play, Klay is one of the fundamental player game has ever seen, comparing him to Love is disrespectful Curry is Curry because Klay was around to knock those 3's.
@gsp3428
@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын
@@setsen941108 Klay is a great player, no doubt, and he has had some legendary performances and he is a pressure player who has come up huge in many games, I will be the first to say that. Klay is a shooter, one of the best ever. But he cant create his own shot, he isnt a very good passer or ball handler. Steph was to the warriors what Jordan was to the Bulls what Giannis is to the bucks, now if you take Pippen or Drue Holiday off those teams and replace them with other guys you wont win as many rings or be as good, but Without jordan or steph or Giannis, those teams dont go anywhere.
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
Klay’s shooting and defense >>>> Love
@gsp3428
@gsp3428 Жыл бұрын
@@hypocritetrollbot7729 Klay's defense is so overated, not sure why people always talk about it, The only way we can truly measure someones defense is by looking at statistics of players when they played against him and their averages. Team defense is much more important than individual defesne. I can name 10 shooting guards I would take ahead of Klay right now at least, maybe more.
@hypocritetrollbot7729
@hypocritetrollbot7729 Жыл бұрын
@@gsp3428 lol your comment was about the Love and Klay trade and you’re going to base it off of how Klay is playing now? Why don’t you go look at how Love is playing then? Before his injuries, Klay always guarded the best opposing guards and consistently did a good job at it. Team defense? Of course that’s important! But remember you’re the one here talking about individual players in Love and Klay
@miquelangeloliver7626
@miquelangeloliver7626 Жыл бұрын
These two guys are articulate
@gators9570
@gators9570 Жыл бұрын
“Shooting guard who can play point” no man he’s an all time great point guard and all time great shooting guard
@OGSVN
@OGSVN Жыл бұрын
this. RJ stands on this hill of “steph isn’t a PG” and CLEARLY can’t understand the difference between a primary and secondary ball handler. is kyrie not a pg bc he let lebron/luka operate on the ball? is murray not a pg bc he lets the offense run through jokic? of course not. the pg’s #1 job is to do what’s best for the team - and id argue that NO ONE understands that better than steph.
@joeyaknow1103
@joeyaknow1103 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if KD never went to the Warriors. There'd be a good chance that Lebron would have 6 rings right now
@BlackMarq20
@BlackMarq20 Жыл бұрын
Or that the Warriors went and got another player and still won. The Warriors didn’t need KD to win, they lost 2016 because of injuries and Harrison Barnes being trash. They lost 2019 because Klay got injured, it wasn’t even KD going down.
@Masoch1st
@Masoch1st Жыл бұрын
probably 5.
@alvinvillanueva1253
@alvinvillanueva1253 Жыл бұрын
​@@BlackMarq20 you always want to find a way to discredit KD😂in 2019 the only way for the warriors to beat the raptors was if KD played healthy from game #1 
@abdulrahamanawudu2096
@abdulrahamanawudu2096 Жыл бұрын
​@@alvinvillanueva1253 Where are KD's titles outside of Golden State?
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