How good is Persona 4 Arena's rollback update???

[@FanTaDig88]

That was so fun to watch, JM just oozes positivity throughout the whole video. I'd watch more persona.

[@EngagingPicard]

More Persona! Let's goooooooooooo

[@terrysalt]

The baseball guy is such a cool idea. Not entirely sure how it all works but I love the fact they made baseball part of his actual gameplay.

[@caitsith3.0]

I want to try to explain since I love playing as him, but I worry it'll be too long or complicated

[@Linosek279]

Have a 2 month late explaination: You get a base when you hit the opponent with a move using his bat, shown by the corners of the diamond. When you have 3 bases, every base after that gives you a run. Missing with a bat move gives you a strike, with 3 strikes giving you an out. The number of strikes is shown by the circles by the S. You also get an out when you get hit for the first time in a combo, shown by the circles by the O. Getting 3 outs resets your bases to 0. If your opponent blocks a bat hit, you get a ball instead (circles by the B), which gives you a base when you get 4 of them. You can also get a homerun by properly connecting with a super, which instantly converts all your runs to bases, and gives you one extra on top. When you reach 10 runs, Junpei actually becomes a character. You get access to an install which passively regenerates health and meter over time (increases for every 10 runs you get afterwards) and allows for clean hits. These give your bat moves sweet spots, which deal increased damage and change the move properties, allowing for some pretty whacky combos. It also makes the most satisfying sound in the game. There’s one other thing which I’m not entirely sure about the exact mechanics of, but if you have a fully lit up gauge (3 bases, 2 outs, 2 strikes, 3 balls) you get a bonus to your next hit. I _think_ it’s a guaranteed fatal counter, but I’m not confident in that

[@terrysalt]

That's very complex! Respect to anyone who can play that character well!

[@Linosek279]

@@terrysalt He gets legit hilarious. Here’s an old tournament that shows just how absurd he gets when the players go full on balls to the walls kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3Kroph5ndhql5Y It’s glorious Admittedly an older version, but he was actually weaker in that one so point very much still stands

[@TheYambino]

Offline rematch doesn't go back to character select, but it still does the vs loading screen every single time

[@kenocontreras]

Glad to see this game again! I remembered that I enjoyed it so much back in time; definitely one of my favorite fighting games!

[@DylanMatthewTurner]

This is my fav fighting game. I wish more people played it :(

[@CuttyFlamLtd]

is it dead on ps4 ? be honest

[@DylanMatthewTurner]

@@CuttyFlamLtd I don't know what you're asking, and I don't have a ps4

[@CuttyFlamLtd]

@@DylanMatthewTurner My bad, I was asking if it has an active player base on PS4 or if it doesn't. But you don't have a PS4.

[@Romellocard]

@@CuttyFlamLtd it has more of a player base than pc

[@HakaishinCat]

Just bought this game to check it out, and its a lot of fun, has just enough tools for a new player to jump in whether you have experience in FG or not, and also feels like alot of characters have this extra technical layer you dont see unless you put some time in so its been rewarding to play. the Rollback has had some issues here and there but I think for sure they will work on that as time moves on especially since its a beta branch. Hope to see a lot of new players jumping in

[@muffinmonkeys]

P4AU is an interesting game to discuss archetypes with. The characters are unique from each other and at the same time most can do a bit of everything. Naoto is a great example. She can get in your face AND keep you out. The game is sort of a "all-rounder" fest, imo but I could see a radical sort saying P4A is a puppet archetype game. That's an easy case to make for S. Labyrs and Ken, but are the rest of the cast puppet characters? Do you approach playing the game that way? The distinction is arbitrary in a fun way. I think of fighting archetypes kind of like fiction genres, now. They are, in part, marketing tools to get ya in the door.

[@Zevox87]

I think Shadow Labrys and Ken are the only ones you can really call pupeteers in this game. Persona moves mostly act like normals that use your persona instead of yourself on everyone else, there's very few cases where you and the persona can be acting simultaneously and independently, which is the hallmark of the pupeteer archetype. And when they are there, it's because the persona move is extremely active (see: Junpei with that Trismegistus multi-divekick), not because you truly control them simultaneously and independantly. That said, I do think it's true that most characters in this game have a little generalist in them, even when that's not their main style. Rise is rushdown as hell, but her Persona moves provide some full-screen presence, for instance. Or Yukari being a zoner, but still able to do some good pressure and mix if she's in close. Few characters are at the extremes of the archetype spectrum, where they can only do one gameplan and no other if they want to be effective.

[@nicebird1082]

And then there's toaster waifus orgia pressure

[@figgerific]

Yoooo more P4U?? Let’s gooooo

[@kurodinos9783]

P4A was my first touch with the versus game tournament and AAAAAAAAA a lot of years later it's time to come back to it

[@xray8012]

A lot of characters in P4AU are pretty unique, Naoto has a Fate number that starts at 13 and goes down for the opponent whenever they get hit by certain moves, and at 0 any mahama or mamudo insta kills

[@xray8012]

Oh and Naoto can give the opponent Silence and Fear too!

[@christiandelcarmen1278]

Shadow Naoto is a Fair and Balanced Character

[@Space_Australian]

Damn you really got my hopes up to see you play Yukiko.

[@absoul112]

8:45 I don't get this. Sure, if someone is being lazy and only describes characters with "rushdown," "zoner," "grappler," or "shoto" then that doesn't tell you much. That said, you can say more. For Junpei, it can be said he's a rushdown character with a unique install requirement or that he has the ability to zone if he needs to. You could also say he's well rounded and leans more towards rushdown, if you think that's more fitting. It's like genres, it gives you a basic idea, but doesn't tell you everything about what you're looking at. I'm also aware that most modern fighting games tend to make characters not purely one archetype.

[@absoul112]

Also it should go without saying, but it’s alright to say a character defies conventional archetypes.

[@Jayden-zq6fj]

like jmcroft said what archetype is chun li

[@absoul112]

@@Jayden-zq6fj The answer depends upon which game we're talking about. In most MVC games, I'd call her a rushdown or pixie character. In most Street Fighter games, she can usually be described as midrange, zoner, or poking.

[@PainasaurusRex]

I see character archetypes as a description of their strategy not what they can do. A zoner has the a strategy of keeping the opponent out, a grappler has a strategy of grabbing, how they accomplish that is what makes them interesting

[@Yous0147]

I think of archetypes to characters, like genres to movies. They guide the general aspect through certain limitations, but they don't determine the character/story being conveyed. Two stories in the same genre, say comedy, can sometimes have more in common in their message with a story having a completely different genre, the same is the case with archetypes. The mechanisms by which they reach those conclusions though is the same, so if you like say horror, scares and suspense, or like grapplers, emphasis on command grabs and large body, (any resemblence between the two examples being coincidental) then you know what genre or archetype you might enjoy.

[@DisgruntledBee]

You're all like, "This game came out 10 years ago!" and I'm over here like I just drank from the wrong grail.

[@brodymuser2947]

One negative about this update, is that it crashes on me when I play golden arena mode, before I could play for hours and hours, but now it's just random and maybe the longest it last is about 1hour

[@bigdogeyeballs5343]

p4au player match rooms are missing instant rematch option, they should add that feature just like blazblue central fiction

[@Limit02]

Praying for that 🙏

[@micahonline_]

more Persona cuz game deserves it also goofy Crofts is entertaining Crofts

[@mikejonesnoreally]

Cues up "Now I Know" :3

[@protodevilin]

Kanji is truly the best fighting game chairacter.

[@freyzerb.castro9124]

Kanji is truly the best character*

[@protodevilin]

@@freyzerb.castro9124 whoosh.

[@just_2swift]

@@protodevilin big whoosh

[@just_2swift]

@@freyzerb.castro9124 🤡

[@joaovictor471]

Hey guys, iam kind newbie in fighting games, and i wanna know whic one is the easyst one to get to know, can u guys give me some tips, appreciate

[@tariqmcbroom6375]

Yes more!!! P4A These were some dope matches I watched whole video

[@MrTrini1212]

Let’s go! I can finally buy this!

[@mustabindawind]

Ooo...maybe ma boi Lotus Asakura the one who never knows best will get back into some Persona

[@elise-3198]

The Chair type character, with members Kanji and Beowulf

[@antonsimmons8519]

Sentinel's archetype is ROCKETPUNCH

[@finalfilms28]

Hey jm, did you know if you 5C very fast after 5B it catches the opponent trying to jump and gives you a combo punish if you cancel with 236B?

[@jmcrofts]

they can block it

[@finalfilms28]

@@jmcrofts it works, though due to 5B having like no buffer window you have to time the 5C almost perfectly. Its hard

[@g_CashMoney]

Kanji supremacy

[@NirYuZy]

Is Junpei finally good tho? He was the man in persona 3 and definitely my favorite of the funny sidekick in the persona series.

[@Reqkuiem]

Not sure if it’s just me, but I downloaded this on steam and it looks absolutely atrocious at 1440p despite having a setting in game for it. Literally looks like 720p. Anyone play this at 1440p and find the same thing happening?

[@foxbeastking8565]

Who's your favorite character

[@plabcentral630]

It’s a shame I’m ass at fighting games and I have no time cuase this looks fun

[@Mene0]

Awesome

[@s-wo8781]

Did Tekken get rollback too because I've noticed a rollback frame counter?

[@Rosellamajicx]

Yes!!!

[@D4YT0N4]

Is the update official or is this a mod?

[@iDrKx]

Official

[@vonBelfry]

Genuine question: When people say "DP" these days, are they talking about an invincible, ground-started anti-air? Or does it need to actually lift the user, too? Or are they named so literally just because of the input? Are there other traits I've not mentioned? Gotta stay up-to-date with the lingo.

[@christiandelcarmen1278]

I think anything that goes on a 623 directional input is a DP

[@viceanterra3]

It'll vary from game to game. In this game the "DP" is one button I'm pretty sure and it's close to what u said. Grounded, invincible reversal. Not specifically anti-air.

[@Zevox87]

Usually it either refers to an invincible reversal move, or to the motion input (623). In P4AU's case, it's always going to be the former, as there aren't any moves that use the dp motion.

[@christiansmall7246]

Id love more persona 4 arena content !!!

[@majoraxx2427]

🗣️ YOU NEED TO EAR MORE MEAT

[@helltioeverygames]

Well,SF4 or ultra has that bullshit of,if you select local versus,everytime you or the other one wins a fight,when the select screen shows up,YOU HAVE TO PRESS START TO MAKE YOUR CURSOR APEAR!!!!! Like if you were in arcade,you loose you have to continue to play again,what!!!? XD.

[@grahamdoscotch2]

please make more persona 4 content there is barely any that is actually good please more gameplay

[@bowtome3378]

Why does he sound like gokus English voice in dbzf

[@IrionMonk0]

More kanji matches :)

[@Tk421WTF]

VF5 with rollback when

[@jasonparks472]

VF6 instead

[@tysonfaulkner193]

Yaas bean

[@thorocomments]

Real talk, what the fuck is rollback?

[@venomous418]

Klit Pheenley

[@NeroV1L3]

I think it's too late to add rollback, the game has lost a ton of players, i wish it just had rollback at launch instead of releasing it later as a lazy way of trying to get players to come back.

[@carlosluismendez7392]

Lazy?, they have to pay for it and there's no guarantees that people will go back to the game or even buy a new copy to play because casuals don't know or care about rollback.

[@NeroV1L3]

@@carlosluismendez7392 congratulations, you proved my point of releasing rollback this long after the game has released is a dumb idea.

[@viceanterra3]

I agree. I feel the same way about samsho 2019. And I love both games.

[@oryuji2610]

I feel like there's no one playing on ps4

[@devの]

P4ua been in development for 10yrs

[@doublestarships646]

As a Persona and Shin Megami Tensei fan I simply don't understand why it's focused hard on Persona 4 lol. Such a weird choice. Why didn't they call it Persona Arena and have different characters from the entire series? I'm genuinely surprised the first protagonist in Shin Megami Tensei isn't in this or even the protagonist from Shin Megami Tensei If.

[@kaleocambra1643]

Because P4 was super popular and this game came out when atlus was still milking the shit out of it.

[@finalfilms28]

This game is a rerelease. Persona 4 was the most recent Persona game at the time, and it does indeed include some Persona 3 characters.

[@kaleocambra1643]

@@finalfilms28 not to mention the first Arena came out just months prior to Golden.

[@doublestarships646]

@@finalfilms28 But ONLY those characters is wack. Smash Bros had more variety with just 8 characters from different franchises.

[@finalfilms28]

@@doublestarships646 It's not Persona Arena, its Persona 4 Arena. It's a spinoff following the events of Persona 4 with it's story mode, they didn't even have to add aged up P3 characters, but they did. Also the smash bros comparison is just... what???