Persona 4 Arena Ultimax IS BACK!!! My Thoughts.

[@LowMaintenance01]

All of Arc System fighters are so visually appealing, the detail and colors are so vibrant, so alive.

[@xray8012]

10:30 NOT EVERY CHARACTER HAS A SHADOW VERSION! Margaret, Elizabeth, Marie, and Adachi dont have Shadow characters due to lore reasons!

[@nik700]

I'm guessing that Yu also doesn't have a shadow version, right?

[@xandermcdonald8543]

Also Sho/Minazuki and ironically enough Shadow Labrys don’t have a traditional shadow version with the shadow burst (although base labrys does have a shadow version for a total of 3 versions of labrys)

[@butterflydreamer9649]

@@nik700 yu has a shadow both ingame and lore wise

[@mykeh8697]

Y u yelling bro

[@KuroShiiiiro]

@@nik700 yu has a shadow--in the anime he has one

[@ClubRemy]

Can we just take a moment and appreciate those combo training descriptions? Those are some of the best I've seen. I picked up a bunch of fighters during the EVO 2021 sale and I was frequently annoyed at things like just showing me the name of a move in the list or missing critical details like "while in air" that were left to me to figure out.

[@capefeather]

P4A was definitely a game that I heard a lot about back in the day. Sometimes I wish I'd gotten into fighting games sooner (I did have a friend I played with as a kid, but the games were all his and we were kids so it's not the same now).

[@Xioxakura]

For anybody to note, Auto Combos in this game is meant to rebuild Burst Meter in this version of the game but has extremely low damage

[@jedgrahek1426]

Oh interesting that's a really great idea, to give them a more specific utility for players who don't need them for much else.

[@Xioxakura]

@@jedgrahek1426 yeah I do like the balance they added for that

[@2Eliishere]

"This guy seems good imma mash DP." Real shit.

[@Ceeington]

Hey can you make guides for this game? Currently the amount of relevant guides for the game available is absolutely minuscule and I personally heavily rely on guides to get better at fighting games

[@xEndymionS]

Same

[@alexandersze49]

not sure if it will work for you, but dustloop is somewhat helpful watching some tournament matches from evo/animevo is also helpful

[@noelcactus9178]

You can join the Persona 4 Arena Ultimax discord, they've got a LOT of guides for each character in their respective discord channels

[@danielelbow]

I've got major nostalgia for the first Persona Arena, it and Street Fighter IV were the first fighting games I tried to learn seriously. Never got to play Ultimax so I'm really excited for this!

[@Sheidowo]

Found your videos while learning dbfz and I’ve stayed around since. Now I’m looking to get into p4au and I know right where to come back. Thanks for continuing to make wonderful content!!

[@darkhunteruk2602]

Missed this game can't wait to try it with rollback and a new patch!

[@GHeinz]

jmc dropping the secret NEET strats

[@Mr_ULTMT]

Bought this game as soon as I saw it come out. Played the first Arena early in high school, now finally playing this one

[@Nizama7]

I bought it as soon as it hit past Midnight (hehe) and already played it tons with my friends tonight (it's been one of our favorites ever since vanilla P4A).

[@jedgrahek1426]

My main in this game was Yukiko, so the balance changes in 2.0 that will make her persona combos even more "solid" and make it harder for her to lose her persona, and the faster fan tossing, etc, are really exciting to me. I'm feeling slightly annoyed at the prospect of buying this game at full price for a third time, maybe this version is cheaper, but still lol. But it's worth it to me to play Ultimax again... I would really love to see this spawn a new tournament scene for Ultimax, because I feel like that version barely had any time in the sunlight compared to the original, and it added so much, so many great new characters. My 2nd main is Rise, and then Kanji is my mixup option if the keepaway girls aren't working out in a matchup. I truly hope we get some tournaments going for this in time... Ultimax is such a great game, it deserves to be a "classic" that people just keep playing like Vampire Savior, etc, not just have had a single season of public recognition.... I know there will be an online community either way, but it would be nice to see, the game truly deserves it. Part of the reason I say that, and like it so much, is that it has this wonderful quality of being super fun to play even for people who are new to fighting games or just have shitty reflexes or whatever, but it is also a highly technical game that can be played at the highest of levels, and no anyone who knows what they are doing will still dominate beginners. But the beginners can at least still have fun, can still feel good about doing something cool even if it's just catching you to mash out the auto-combo... and that makes the path to truly getting better at the game and learning it at a higher level... just... a hell of a lot more fun than it usually is in this genre, I'll just put it that way. Maybe for people who are good players in general none of this made any difference, but for someone like me who loves the genre but struggles to learn longer combos etc, this comfy learning curve made a massive difference to how good I eventually was able to get at the game. edit: Aww hell yeah, it was so great to see that Rise player who knew what they were doing, you seriously robbed them lol. I usually play her a bit more chaotically and zoning-focused, emphasizing getting as much crap on screen as I can in unpredictable patterns so you have notes hanging around, lighting still on its way, and the laser firing and bursting the notes around the opponent just as you come in with the melee rushdown, that kind of thing.... it's weirding me out that I never knew you could incorporate her air-thrown into a combo the way he did, that is very powerful and I feel dumb for never using that before lol. Just awesome to see Rise being played well though... she is so incredibly versatile and fun to use once you get familiar with her, this fun mixup of powerful zoning tools with her persona and extremely good up-close rushdown melee buttons herself... so one really does have a lot of freedom when using her and she can thrive in multiple ways... and that DP is so deceptively effective lol ; ) And anyway damn just look at her!!! : D

[@Xioxakura]

We all know Arc System is feeling out how this game is going to do before they FINALLY release the requested Persona 5 Arena

[@jonssogaming8255]

I originally played P4A around the time it came out. I never really got into it but have been wanting to go back to it thanks to BBTag. Looking at Akihito, Mitsuru and Kanji as potential mains.

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

The Super Best Friends channel still had all four members when Ultimax came out.

[@belojah2]

Wow, that's a sad fact.

[@zach8523]

"This guy seems good, imma mash DP." -jmcrofts 2022

[@andrewsutton1858]

Been hyped for you to cover this hope to see more

[@ΝίκοςΣ-γ7β]

Dude the moment I touched the game I felt the balance changes even thought I didn't know they were a thing. It's going to take some time to get used to it, especially building sp feels so hard rn, it's like I have to purposely let them get me low just so I can use my instant kill

[@YouGuessIGuess]

I was gonna grab this but now that Team Garou are out in KOF I'll probably wait for the rollback patch. (and hopefully a Steam sale) This game was fun and unique back in the day! It'll be fun to play it with solid netcode.

[@viceanterra3]

Kanji is so hype. I played Ultimax a bit but I only mained him in Arena. I just found out his 5C causes paralysis. I'm back on the kanji train bb!

[@TheWordPlay]

Looking forward to picking this up when rollback drops in the summer! Missed these characters. Only played vanilla P4 Arena, so it'll be interesting to feel the differences between the two versions

[@jedgrahek1426]

Oh you'll love Ultimax, it adds so many characters to the roster, and almost all of them are great. I'm not a huge fan of the whole shadow characters thing, I mean it's fun and neat for lore and to have alternate versions, but Shadow Chie had some really dumb unbalanced stuff that made tournaments kinda stupider and more degenerate than they were before Ultimax... so I hope they fixed and balanced that stuff better in this 2.0 version. But there are so many insanely fun new characters like Rise, Marie, Adachi, etc.. I'm really looking forward to seeing and playing the 2.0 version, it sounds like the changes to personas should help Yukiko a lot, who was my main along with Rise after Ultimax came out.

[@ddublu]

No matter how good the game, I'll hold off until the rollback update to give them my money. Sending a message.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

I'm sure your personal money matters a lot to them

[@ddublu]

@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 never said it's a big one, but it sure matters more than your pseudoenlightened sarcasm.

[@GalaxyWarrior2099]

Dude, you never finished the challenges you begun long ago, that’s a bummer, loved this game

[@MrCactuar13]

One thing to note about auto combos is that the third hit gives a ton of meter. Characters who have follow ups off their third auto combo like Yu and Aigis get a lot of mileage out of it because they can build meter really efficiently without sacrificing too much damage.

[@blitras8102]

In 2.0, it’s the special move hit of the auto combo that gives that bonus

[@MrCactuar13]

@@blitras8102 oh that's a pretty significant nerf

[@blitras8102]

@@MrCactuar13 Yeah but at least shadow characters can use the meter and burst gain to help get shadow frenzy faster

[@Yous0147]

15:31 "This guy seems good, I'm gonna mash DP" lol

[@insertjokeh3r3]

teddies items may be a fixed order but he has 2 different item sets so its kinda impossible for the opponent to know whats coming.

[@Drakkyr]

I’ll pick it up when it gets closer to rollback release. I was a fellow Kanji player when I played on RPCS3

[@DarthTayder]

Would love to see more of this game, I’m getting my feet wet on it until it gets the update but I’m expecting to put a bunch of time into this.

[@RycoreXIII]

I can't wait for it to come out this summer

[@saiyanwolf1117]

I'm interested in getting this game

[@guitarhero1309]

I've only played p4g, and I got the game, wish me good luck

[@shinbakihanma2749]

Don't know why they didn't include the original console versions of PERSONA 4 ARENA and ULTIMAX with this release. Would've been real nice to have them all included in a nice package for current and last gen consoles.

[@rioulethebeats9717]

So I play on controller. And I play in the dpad is there something wrong about the timing for inputs for supers. Because it's mighty difficult

[@TehDompie]

This is the game I am currently using to learn hitbox controller and it's so fun. Junpei is a blast to play as

[@Mixa_Lv]

Nice, I'm probably buying this once the rollback gets added.

[@guiltyoregano7131]

The pc version is having bad crashing for some pc users

[@AzrealAsItGets]

yup, same for me. thinking of refunding, waiting for rollback, and putting more time into phantom breaker

Yup, mine's crashing each time I try to play online, luckily I bought it on Switch as well

[@Ryan--G]

I saw it appear on Playstation store and hit 'buy' on reflex, I love this thing.

[@Runeforged]

My first thought as always: “no rollback no thanks” plot twist!? summer rollback. Now I must buy.

[@NudocPRIME]

It's on PS4 to

[@tikazombie37]

P4A is a game I always wanted to play mainly because it's the dream game of "every character has a different resource" they not only play differently, but some work on entirely different rules

[@Dreikoo]

You may wanna try Aigis, she has 2 unique resources when most everyone only has 1.

[@Skallva]

You should try out BlazBlue. It's pretty much the posterboy of the 'everyone plays their own game' design philosophy, with tons of wack individual mechanics all-around.

[@Dreikoo]

They never got the 2.0 patch in japan either for console, it was arcade-only, otherwise we'd have just imported the JP version of the game like with BB. And yeah Atlus worked together with Arcsys so they kinda handled the characterization and the story even is a sequel to the RPG games.

[@Kanzuki]

Bought this cuz I want Atlus to know I want a new Persona fighting game. I'm not gonna touch online until we get rollback tho

[@konstantdrachenfels5446]

Are shadow forms still broken in this version?

[@xenghuong]

PC port is really bad with launching the game if you have a good monitor. Gotta do some obscure things to fix and I can only play on windowed mode atm. Hopefully they fix this bug asap

[@thatvoiceinsideyourhead7454]

Can somebody help me out is there version of this game on Xbox if I have to get it on switch I will but I'd like to get for my Xbox

[@HYLOBRO]

Will buy as soon as I can actually play it with rollback, given that I only play online there is no reason for me to play it before then :)

[@thatoneflyinghat]

If you can get it to open

[@coolboyyo654]

Kanji trials? This feels familiar...

[@GOATUBER19THRIVE]

Dam how do you do specials so easily I can never do them

[@ZeroTheHeartlessKing]

16:49 "stupid kanji" one more thing 20:26 t-that isn't spicy curry, that's the hell known as "mystery food X"

[@DiscoJoseph]

I will be pretty busy playing both this and Phantom Breaker: Omnia!!

[@Braveheart30on30]

Dude I wanna play this game now so bad lmao this looks so cool

[@engetsuren1702]

I loved this game, this is awesome

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

yeah the online def has some issues but it's gone better than I thought it would

[@apairofsteeltoedboots4729]

I want this on Xbox for some reason.

[@jakeyyay]

Lol I think the first adachi was a bbtag player

[@user-li8sr9zo9l]

I think I'm going to spend a lot of time in training mode before even going online. At least until I feel like my brain is actually controlling my hands.

[@Mario_bland]

Are the story modes back? Honestly for those alone this was a pretty good casual scrub/i like persona 3/4 buy.

[@xandermcdonald8543]

Yeah both the original P4A and new P4AU stories along with dlc Adachi story

[@imverytired1164]

They're really bringing in rollback? That's great to hear, and I can't wait to be an Adachi simp again.

[@felipefgoliveira]

Wow nice content for the channel

[@dewdadream]

I really wish this game was on xbox...kanji was my main only because i loved his brawl/beatdown style

[@c0deHD]

do you think this or kof15 is going to have a stronger community?

[@jmcrofts]

Probably kof cuz it's a new game

[@orlanzo2621]

KOF 15 for sure. It’s brand new. P4U is essentially a 10 year old game.

[@nolanstrife7350]

10:08 Yeah... Sure... I can't wait to get into ranked just to immediately be killed by one combo from Eli or Shadow Naoto

[@PlatinumMage]

I hope we get a p5 arena

[@jonathanbermudez3533]

can we get more persona 4 arena content

[@gregsochacki7290]

does this game have the same voice actors as the P4 game?

[@gregsochacki7290]

@@starbreaker6441 That's good. I really like Rises' VA. She got replaced for the dancing game and made me fairly disappointed since she was my favorite.

[@kevinm2755]

pls jm croft we need the guides

[@konkeydonk]

When they put ultimax on the fucking switch before the xbox😭

[@Jay-ci5mw]

Kanji has a persona but little does anyone know he has a secomd one its the chair so we all call it chairsona

[@alexandersze49]

I'm trying to main Rise because she looks annoying and cheap with the setup, but damn that 2nd player you fought. She/He has a damn good Rise. EDIT: She even did a proper crouch confirm combo route(even though dropped)

[@Hypno_BPM]

ArcSys has been KiLLing It

[@DarkshadowXD63]

Time to pick up Elizabeth again (best girl) The Ice Queen is up there too 😂

[@LumaTo]

I had my copy refunded. Would flat out just refuse to work with any of my controllers/fight sticks. I won't go back to playing on a KB.

[@Skywalker52Blocks]

Games legit 💯🤙✌️💨🔥😎

[@GAMEandroid-rp6wt]

Nicee ..

[@JohnnyMiraï]

would be good if it was on psvita

[@Fleetw00d]

Kanji is ridiculous in this game. True menace. That said the whole game is degenerate but with super cool looking stuff so you already know it's gonna be nuts day one.

[@AizakkuAnalysis]

Lol, yeah. I'll wait for the inevitable price drop.

[@ilefthemfree2jizz]

Jm can u try marie challenge 17 I swear its broken and im not just bad

[@BrainGeniusAcademy]

As God is my witness I will NEVER AGAIN play Labrys. This is my vow.

[@giangatang]

Not buying until there is rollback

[@smoothinihoudini1752]

Same but was thinking about buying it to find a main or lab combos to be ready when rollback comes out this summer

[@StrictlyDeft]

Dang, everything getting rollback now days. At this rate DBFZ will get rollback when we get PC 2

[@crispylunch]

hello 👁

[@DroidLocks6971]

I'm Listen yu via mis Aftershokz Aeropex

[@Joofthesoup]

More more more

[@thathandleistakentrythisone]

I hate the bearclownthing

[@jmcrofts]

don't talk about my son

[@Logos6]

so... the game died in 3 months?

[@twistedpretzel7015]

PS4 but not 5? Lol...