Joe Rogan on Roy Jones Jr. & Bernard Hopkins

Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1174:
• Joe Rogan Experience #...

[@tonystancil6377]

Vinnie’s forever the pinnacle of the underground point blank. He’s never had a bad verse in my eyes and has gotten me through tough and unguided times in my life. I’m simply thankful for your existence pazzy

[@angelmoreno5058]

You must not have heard his new solo album tortured in the name of gods unconditional love.. I bought that shit and felt so stupid other than that your right

[@jessemilstead810]

100 percent If you want hardcore rap… Jedi mind tricks, Army of the pharaohs That’s hardcore rap

[@tonystancil6377]

@@angelmoreno5058 I hear your opinion and I understand. It’s not for everyone, again it lets me know why he’s forever underrated in my eyes. I’m still thankful nonetheless

[@tonystancil6377]

@@jessemilstead810 Yes! You already know, I’ve listened to just about every song and album and it’s gotten me through this roller coaster that is my life. Much respect to you fam 💯

[@JamesEarlBonez]

Please get Roy on this show. Boxers respect Joe.

[@therock809]

Hell yeah roy Jones of the GOAT

[@Neo-Midgar]

Wish has been granted.

[@easyE0287]

Ur wish has been granted

[@gilgamesh5796]

Roy Jones' movement was so mesmerizing, its like he did some Jedi Mind Tricks on them fools.

[@ifyoureinmarketing-killyou3111]

I see what you did there son!

[@stevendixon4865]

Dude was amazing it made it fun to watch he was outta this world!!Respect

[@j.a.m.theband2125]

Abrahm Felix Hahaha! nice one!

[@jaym8828]

Well done! Lol

[@antonioalvarez1245]

Thx for that comment carnalito.

[@OmarAlKurdi-]

Can we just appreciate vinnie’s boxing knowledge for a second?

[@Clubber-Slang]

I mean he took his rap name from a boxer, hope he'd have vast knowledge or he'd be a poser/fronting.

[@coldcoldrain13]

Joe nailed it, when Roy moved up to fight Ruiz, then moved back down , his power, explosive strength disappeared overnight.

[@therock809]

Yeah you can’t gain and then lose much weight you need a few weeks for your body to adjust

[@eduardosp2024]

Doesn’t sit right with me that people call Roy’s technique bad. Just because he was unconventional with his guard doesn’t mean he didn’t understand the fundamentals of angles, head positioning, footwork, etc. He deteriorated too rapidly to adjust like b-hop did.

[@anatoliymoroz1]

Joe “ he should’ve consulted his endocrinologist “ Rogan

[@killasin303]

😂

[@hebrewthought9976]

Roy was the best fighter I ever saw in life at one point. Simply something to behold from a boxing sense. Hopkins is one of my all time favorites especially since I grew up in Philly seeing him all the time.

[@Omar-if1cu]

Roy actually was skilled a lot of people don’t notice that... when he went down in weight and was older he just didn’t have his legs anymore and if anyone actually pays attention to what roy is doing you will see his main form of defense was his feet his movement but once he lost that he was a sitting duck... roy in his prime knew how to maneuver the ring well and escape which is a skill and also knew how to throw beautiful combinations and knew how to be patient and went to the body and knew how to smother his opponent with his body sometimes after landing a shot, he knew how to throw soft pitty patt punches to set up the big ones and understood the importance of feinting very well.... don’t let people fool you just because he threw wild shots and didn’t jab he was actually great technically In certain areas and it was that combined with the fact that he had unbelievable power and speed that made him almost unbeatable.

[@Omar-if1cu]

Don’t get me wrong he definitely wasn’t a genius and definitely did a lot of things wrong and yes it was his physical powers that were special but the man can box and he boxed well when he could move

[@BlackjackCZ]

Bhop was simply amazing. Beating Trinidad at age 36 was one of the best displays of boxing I have seen. Roy Jones Jr. was the most talented and gifted fighters in boxing history.

[@stevendixon4865]

Roy Jones Jr. Is still the best fighter in boxing he fought everyone from 160 on up n is still getting down its only been done in 100 years he has done shit no one will dare do respect to RJJR!!!

[@xosamax439]

Steven Dixon not only did he fight everyone but Roy cleared divisions out

[@brandonpennyman3393]

Glass chin tho

[@xosamax439]

Brandon Pennyman very true

[@1p4p_akqb99]

Steven Dixon Floyd is the Goat 20+ world champions in a row barely lost a round until he aged

[@stevendixon4865]

@@1p4p_akqb99 but how many fights did he have kos?? I agree floyd is dope but roy was the more exciting to watch do u want excitement or a flawless play??

[@shall7277]

I can't stand when people say Roy Jones didn't know the basics... Ugh! Disgusts me

[@TLathers225]

shall7277 thank you me too, they took that narrative from b hop n they ran with it, but everything he did was beautiful, his jab

[@eduardosp2024]

Same here. Look up “Roy Jones more than an athlete” to see how adept he was in multiple areas technically

[@MrKAHutch]

People who haven't watched RJ's career run with that narrative. If you watch RJ vs Mccallum, Toney, or B-Hop you know Roy is a technical master with multiple defensive guards with all the punches and power in both hands in all directions.

[@shall7277]

Teldrin Lathers EXACTLY!

[@shall7277]

TopShelf I couldn't agree with you more.. you have a great eye!

[@mostblunted17]

Wheres the full interview???? Did they take it down????

[@MrGareth24]

Joe this podcast was amazing I've been buzzing off you two buzzing off each other so much. Amazing! I've listened to every podcast you ever did and this one stands out buying time! Big love to you both!

[@secredeath]

Jedi mind tricks ARMY OF THE PHARAOHSSSS

[@joelx8499]

Bouncing buildings!

[@KorDawg91]

Heavenly divine!

[@DXOWNSNWO]

Hell yeah !!!

[@Apreme]

@@DXOWNSNWO kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmbWqIKJrshrjsU FUCK VINNIE PAZ

[@187Wretched]

Roy was definitely technical honestly he has some of the best fight IQ ive seen as well and his Jab was lightning fast and had power. I don't know what Roy these guys were watching but maybe they need a refresher.

[@TheMarcuscamby13]

Cool as hell to have Vinnie on here

[@Shotbymilkgames]

joe rogans voice over on ufc commercial on top of his videos haha man is getting paid! salute to you joe, in the commercials that are on your videos i cant get get over it

[@chizz2158]

Roy is like Russel Westbrook of boxing and Hopkins is like CP3

[@DeDona1]

Roy was the most talented fighter I've ever seen

[@raymondgirardtan4978]

Great point about not having enough time for neurological recovery for RJJ between the Tarver and Johnson fights.

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

RJJ is smoothest fighter I ever seen. Pound for pound the best I ever seen.

[@TMAdventuresT7]

Joe was simply the best

[@RetroR0bbie]

Roy in his prime best ever truly. Tarver was just the guy lucky enough to fight him at the perfect time. Joe stick to MMA.

[@jamestodd1104]

Retro Robbie no he wasn't you tool. robinson greb armstrong pep there's about 50 fighters better

[@RetroR0bbie]

sorry cant agree. but I wont be rude about it.

[@jamestodd1104]

Retro Robbie how? robinson and Greb are the two best ever. it's not even close mate

[@RetroR0bbie]

if you think so thats cool.

[@deerphoria4314]

I don't think anyone can beat Roy Jones in his prime. His talent is 10x above everyone elses.

[@thekernel2123]

Why did they get rid of this full podcast there are only a few clips from it I never got to watch this if anyone can find it please lmk where

[@raasputin]

Bernard Hopkins was definitely on the juice

[@coimbralaw]

Loved watching Vinnie in this despite the mediocre host.

[@charlieparker7159]

Vinnie is right. Roy wasn't fundamentally sound enough to adjust to his physical decline. Still one of the best ever in his prime tho

[@user-mw4qi1kx3o]

Roy had super quick jabs his jab was laser accurate and strong

[@MrDendevil]

Nice, Vinnie P!

[@PunchPerfectPlayer]

Roy had technical abilities just unconventional ones suited for his athletics

[@estevanalameda5852]

Box Cutter Vinnie!

[@fogtown3027]

"Yall must've forgot!!!"

[@boloyeung1973]

Bernard “ain’t no white boi ever gonna beat me” Hopkins

[@anthonyanderson9303]

George Foreman and Bernard Hopkins have the 2 most unique careers in boxing history, just their career paths and what they accomplished at ages that are normally impossible.

[@apolloandcreedbulldogges2229]

Not only did Roy have tremendous skills.. he had some tremendous birds

[@markmondrinos7721]

Yo Bernard got that insane dietary!

[@vladdugaia7018]

And regarding B-Hop. He may live clean, but he fights dirty as shit.

[@elnegrobembon]

Roy is also the greatest boxer turned analyst.

[@jimfocus3128]

Roy J was a killa, he will beat the shit out of these modern fighters

[@zackcoffmanguitar]

jim focus no he won’t. If he did then he would be but he doesn’t.

[@stevendixon4865]

Hell yea he would half these cats wont even call out no one or go up in weight

[@jimfocus3128]

@@stevendixon4865 non of these skinny mexican fighters will survive 12 rounds in a ring with Roy J

[@stevendixon4865]

@@jimfocus3128 ur most likely right bro roy jones jr was once in a lifetime

[@jackbob99morgan3]

He was a modern fighter. LOL

[@ayokev8546]

When you KNOW the fundamentals . YOU CAN BREAK THEM

[@perealty5105]

that RJJ wasn't technical is crap. He was one of the greatest amateurs in US history. He used fundamentals as a base for his unorthodox style - just because those incorporated his natural speed, and then showcased his power, doesn't mean unothordox = technically bad. There have been a ton of super fast/quick guys, and a ton of unorthodox styles....but Roy put it all together so far past anyone else before or after, because he had great technical ability to start.

[@b.romero6846]

He was athletically gifted, he never adjusted once he lost that

[@perealty5105]

He went basically 50-0 and all the way from jr. middleweight to winning the heavyweight championship. His decline wasn't at an age that is at all rare for guys to decline, there isn't really anything to adjust. He had a couple other high points, but from about 1991 until about 2004, there wasn't anyone even in the same universe as him. There are guys who were very fast, very quick, hit with huge power, all that...he put it together with a great technical background and base, he wasn't winging crazy shots, or getting lucky anticipating where the other guys punches were coming from....if he was "bad" technically, he was in with guys who were excellent technicians who could have broke him down, or at least made it tough....he didn't lose 5 full mins to a prime James Toney and Bernard Hopkins combined.

[@b.romero6846]

@@perealty5105 he beat plenty of cans during his P4P run including a journeymen heavyweight John Ruiz who happened to a belt and was no way shape or form the man to beat in that division. Roy was athletic once he lost that he was getting KO'ed left and right. He never adjusted after that,fighters with technical ability and great defense don't get ko'ed the way he does

[@perealty5105]

If you just watched in a vacuum you could have said Hopkins was a bum based on how easy Roy made it look. Reggie Johnson, Hill, McCallum (who wasn't like 2 years removed from basically fighting James Toney even 2x), Malinga (who beat Nigel Benn), Lou Del Vall... he beat plenty of very guys easy enough that its clear how great he was. And Ruiz was coming off wins against Holyfield, and still hadn't beat Rahman - Roy wasnt' going down as the greatest heavyweight in history, but its pretty much splitting hairs at that point to try and critique who he beat, doing something for the first time in like 160 years. If all it took to be named the fighter of the decade was to be athletic, I think it would have looked more competitive. He started declining around 35, that's when boxers start to make sharper declines. Look at Ray Leonard, Ali, Hagler, Hearns, Whitaker - nobody says Carl Lewis wasn't fast just because he wouldn't win the Olympics now. At his best, he was arguably the most dominant champion in modern history.

[@b.romero6846]

@@perealty5105 none of those those fighters u mentioned on the decline were brutally knocked out the way Jones was, Floyd was a technical defensive specialist would have never gone down like that, same for Whitaker. Ruiz beat an over the hill Holyfield, The bodysnatcher best years were in the 80s at 154. When u really break down his resume u can be only mention Bhop who got better with age and Toney. Nigel Benn claim to fame was the McClellan fight

[@Lucas-st3ft]

Roy used a up jab.. but used lead left hooks and lead right crosses.. a lot of fighters do that, it’s more timing than speed to land those punches..

[@OSRSylent_1]

Vinnie is so cool to talk to

[@jamallc4662]

I agree with Joe. Roy moving up to heavyweight hurt him bad.

[@raymondgirardtan4978]

I think Ruiz's punches did more damage than we thought at the time.

[@willmills6378]

Joe’s assessment is perfect. That’s exactly what happened to Roy!

[@silvermediastudio]

What!?!? Y'all mustuv furgottt!!

[@jesusatemybaby2]

According to boxrec, rjj only weighed 193 when he fought ruiz.

[@sergioremonalvarez]

Roy was actually 190 heavyweight minimum for his fight with Ruiz. And he weighed in fully clothed

[@johndennison6691]

Joe "I take my family to Costa Rica and Thailand to let my son ride elephants" Rogan

[@Priceluked]

Old comment but Joe Rogan doesn't even have a son.

[@RMAGEDN740]

Oh shit?! Joe rogan got vinnIe p on the show!!!! I'm watching the whole thing. Thanks, joe!!!

[@Chief2Moon]

Vinnie has his nose shoved all over his face, this guy isn't him.

[@beatsinmycrates]

Shit Vinnie Paz, dope

[@WotsisFace]

wow, a real guest

[@laytonT93]

God of the Serengeti

[@louiegrabske7655]

God of the 7 deadly?

[@laytonT93]

@@louiegrabske7655 that as well

[@trevormccloy8504]

He weighed in at under 200 lbs against Ruiz, but I feel the same way.

[@leijiang7341]

wasn't it like 196ish?

[@trevormccloy8504]

193 pounds

[@KyOTT8]

GET ROY JONES ON THE SHOW

[@matthewgallant3622]

Why isn’t Vinnie Paz a regular guest on Joe Rogan? He needs to be on once a month to talk boxing.

[@kidkid985]

I used to think Joe Rogan didn't know shit about boxing, but wow he knows his shit.

[@michaellopez2250]

Roy better athlete and fighter. Bernard better strategies and heart... damn I miss my guys...

[@ianarmstrong5548]

Those weight cuts can change the body forever what goes up must come down! Especially involving hormones and the Endocrine System.

[@jaspervandemeeberg8428]

why is the full episode private?

[@60-FPS_DPI]

cancel culture

[@shnarfy]

Roys worst defense was not retiring after becoming the heavyweight champ.

[@guccimane6116]

Who were they talking about prior to the beginning of this clip. Somebody let me know

[@bbonebk]

I cant believe fucking Vinnie Paz is on the podcast. 2 of the most awesome human beings in the same place.

[@tomdrake3787]

Is it that cold in the studio that he has the full hoodie on

[@chrismccoy4146]

Tim Drake interesting that the headphones are on the outside of the hoodie as well

[@charliemateni5683]

Get the strap homie

[@NV-un7hn]

This guy is like if your local garbageman did DMT

[@PEST__]

Why dose all of his clip s look like there in 240p?

[@kaliduncanel3356]

Bernard live clean but, he fight dirty cuz.

[@brrrrrrelhelicopteroytefui5746]

He left tito looking like a unicorn from all the headbutt

[@user-xp2ye7rn6h]

Vinnie Paz!

[@vladdugaia7018]

Joe should have been an aggresive ground and pound wrestler with the ring name Jacked Joe Rogan

[@wubranch1]

Jones jabbed when needed, was an Olympic boxer, but he slowed and got old and he never adjusted.

[@milanradovanovic9156]

Some people from Serbia still remember gang star... And BIG L rip

[@CultureBoxing]

Roy was cool but I don't give too much credit because there are those dudes that had actual boxing ability. He was reflexes and minor techniqual ability.

[@richardmanuel9812]

You crazy Roy was fucking crazy

[@nyx2020]

This guy looks like Mike Perry after in his 40's

[@inbrendanwetrust6107]

Hahahahaha I totally see it

[@NathanPaulBell]

Nobody can put 20 lbs of muscle on and then instantly within months lose 25lbs of pure muscle. That shit ruins your twitch fibres and thats what Roy Jones main asset was his twitch fibres, his reflex timing all went wrong .

[@zeemzee7476]

Anyone that goes up the back down always loses a step IMO

[@Gitfiddle]

Is it freezing cold in there?

[@danielmiskei9031]

Joe" he should've consulted an endocrinologist" Rogan.

[@doubles7533]

Joe “One of these days I’ll let me guests get a word in” Rogan

[@keithwhite513]

Roy was not not over 200 lbs for the Ruiz fight. Cutting to 175 was not a significant cut. IMO Roy's downfall was a combination of things personal and physical. Roy def had legit technique too... and definitely used jabs. What's stunning is that Roy started fighting at junior welterweight and ended up becoming a heavyweight champion.

[@sliccric2266]

Roy weighed 193 for the Ruiz fight. Paz is right, roy beat guys with pure speed and agility, a bit like a prime ali. As soon as those traits dimished a bit, he started getting k.o'd because he never really had the fundamentals to fall back on. Regardless, still one of the all time greats.

[@davidmcconnell5046]

I appreciate non boxing people taking an interest, but know your facts. Jones weighed 194 lbs vs Ruiz had to shed 19 lbs not 30 lbs for Tarver. He fought a peak Tarver. Jones also came on strong in rounds 10-12. If his non dominant performance was due to weight loss he would’ve been strong early and tired late.

[@volkrays99]

A lot people don’t know that RJJ’s speed and style aren’t just talent based but developed through hard work. RJJ’s father use to force RJJ to tied on arm behind his back at age 9 and fight 13-14 year olds!

[@thatbronzeboij]

Child abuse….

[@christiansoldier77]

The second Jones Hopkins fight was not one sided it was a close fight but they just simply gave it Hopkins because he was a bigger star than Roy at the time These guys are just making things up

[@AsadRehman1993]

Vinnie Paz my brother ❤❤👑⭐🎤🎶🔥🙏🏽👑☪️

[@scottm9010]

Joe was 100% right. Going up to heavyweights and then cutting that weight ruined him.

[@telephonic]

Jones technically bad....wtf...His footwork was supreme.

[@ugotnofans4201]

Roy Jones Russian legend !

[@nef-one8640]

RGT85?

[@loudsmoke8565]

Roy Jones was 193lbs when he fought Ruiz. Doubt steroids played a part

[@batmann2370]

Roy himself said he was 200, shhhhhhh!

[@slowpokebr549]

Oh man, I'm so glad to hear someone else complain about Roy Jones fundamentals sucking. I used to yell at the screen watching him fight. I just hate to see someone with true matrix like reflexes and sloppy habits. Sooner or later holding your left hand low is gonna get ya speed racer. Anderson Silva used to dodge bullets in the ring and look what holding your hands low and backing straight up did for him. Weidman was no striking legend, what's he done since????. Nope Silva just did some annoying show boat crap and got caught out by the laws of physics. It's even more annoying in Silva because he damn well knows better. Speeds the first thing to go and the first thing to teach you bad habits. The funniest thing I've seen lately on this subject was Darren Till getting cracked by Woodley. Till holds his left down at his waist and he throws weird, winging uppercuts while he is doing it. He got away with it because he's fast and he can really crack. As soon as he got in with someone good who had watched some film on him.......he got dumped on his ass. I bet Cerrone would beat him in re match.

[@ChristopherPChicken]

Can someone explain to me what’s going on? That’s not Vinny Paz.

[@QWood1911]

💯👍

[@James.Ryan333]

Vinnie Paz a.k.a Ikon the Verbal Hologram Arguably the best rapper ever. Has some of the best verses in Rap history

[@yuletide1751]

Roy Jones jr? Oh the guy that just got a draw with Tyson at 51 yeah that guy

[@edwardmccandlish572]

Dam ! Must be getting old! Never heard of this guy! Thought Joe had the real deal boxing great Vinny pazienza !

[@makajossos9431]

Edward Mccandlish you must be real old then. This legend been making music since the mid 90s

[@dylanthomas1274]

Same man

[@ralebkilliams766]

I thought Paz the boxer was dead?

[@dylanthomas1274]

Raleb Killiams he lives

[@edwardmccandlish572]

One man's legend is another man's nobody!

[@each1teach1academy43]

You can only be an athlete for so long Tarver should have been his last fight there was nothing else to prove

[@joesaiditstrue]

glen johnson ko was brutal

[@bindaredundat-uv6wz]

WHY IS THAT GUY WEARING A BEAR SUIT ?

[@thatdude3130]

Roy was 193lbs for Ruiz not 208lbs.