Joe Rogan question for Putin | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips

[@ThatNinjaLes]

"You're too honest" to be a politician. That statement points out the sad world in which we live.

[@toniwilson6210]

It’s even sadder that people are taking Joe Rogan seriously. Worship celebrities at your own risk.

[@LightS_bRight]

​@@toniwilson6210 no one tells people to worship rogan, yet most people are sheep.

[@LightS_bRight]

sad world to live in where, honesty, loyalty respect is a bad thing. Bizarro world.

[@spaceowl5957]

It’s just a joke about politicians lying it’s not that deep

[@Aluttuh]

@@toniwilson6210 seem to have a chip on your shoulder, what exactly did he say thats making you so sad from people intaking ______ objectively?

[@hbomb_101]

Rogan interviewing Putin would be the greatest interview of all time. “Have you tried dmt Putin?”

[@checktheplaylist101]

One mason to another.

[@MS-mr4zm]

It’d be terrifying lol- maybe would need Tyson there as a mediator lol

[@michaelsworld6292]

@@checktheplaylist101 Joe is most definitely not a mason, he’s a puppet, a shill at best.

[@pamelapamper]

Stoned Putin would cause a meme singularity that would destroy the universe

[@checktheplaylist101]

@@michaelsworld6292 😃Funny you use those words, what do you think the Masons are??? Puppets, shills, yes! 🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱Joe backdrop (probably nothing).

[@Clozof]

I think Lex is the chosen one to interview Putin

[@BaneTrogdor]

Oliver Stone did it already.

[@urosuros2072]

​@@BaneTrogdor That was not an interview , that was Oliver Stone dick riding and sucking off Putin during entire conversation. I mean i dont really blame the guy, when your talking with man that will order your death if you say any negative thing about him you tend to not do that , but why then even do an interview, there is no jurnalist integrity in that

[@ProbeGT2]

I think if you're sitting in front of putin, in russia, it's pretty hard not to be biased.

[@toniwilson6210]

The problem is that we see it as an honor to interview a genocidal maniac. I think we know exactly how Putler is operating within his delusions of grandeur.

[@ProbeGT2]

@@toniwilson6210 I think you're missing the point. It's not an honor to interview Putin, but if one can be able to reach to him, talk to him, read him, and then communicate that back to us, then we may be able to extinguish future fires with those kind of leaders, before they blow out. Then it's the same from the opposite. If Lex can put just a tiny bit of sense in a guy Like Putin, he could have the power to save thousands of lives, russians and ukrainians. We absolutely need to get to know how it works in those dictator's head, because China is the next to make the move and in no way we will be able to act on china as we acted on russia.

[@mmamultiverse75]

Imagine if Putin requests for an interview with Rogan, in Russia.

[@bangun172]

He probably would butthe us would find a way to destroy rogan just like assange

[@robinpage2730]

Free Brittany Griner

[@student987651]

With lex as translator. Thats the way to go.

[@wharfrat9489]

@@robinpage2730 why? When I was caught with a substance I was arrested also in America. Why does she get pass?

[@robinpage2730]

@@wharfrat9489 because 1) she was only arrested because she's American, but because she is a drug user; I've no doubt the "paraphernalia" was planted, and 2) it shouldn't be illegal in the first place, and it's being legalized here in America all over.

[@Bling92]

Joe looks like he needs 46 days of sleep

[@renegdn]

😂

[@fromthegrove1]

ay hes old bro chill haha

[@corylombard]

Certainly nothing to look at.

[@adamgillespie3393]

I like how he mentioned fox news as a seperate entity to "mainstream media". In reality, Fox news is very mainstream and just as untrustworthy.

[@iknowright6090]

Yep Fox are hustling as well as CNN.

[@urosuros2072]

They supported him during "cancelation attempt" which is why Joe likes them so much. And he claims to be thinking objecitvly...lol

[@brokenworld94]

Words like "mainstream" don't really mean what they used to. The term "mainstream media" has become synonymous with the concept of 'media whose narrative aligns with the establishment". Even though, technically, FOX is "mainstream media" given how many viewers FOX gets; as a media company it sits just outside the boundaries of the Neoliberal+Neoconservative special interest establishment (which is ironic considering during the Bush years they were THE establishment media apparatus). FOX news is mainstream media, but singularly stands out from "*the* mainstream media" these days.

[@urosuros2072]

@@brokenworld94 stands out by somehow being able to attract all lowest intelligent people in the country and convicnig them that their clearly right wing narrative is not propaganda but "real news" which couldnt be farther from truth

[@ErugoPurakushi]

I don't know about Fox News in general, but Tucker Carlson is definitely not spewing the mainstream media narratives. Laura Ingraham is moving in that direction too.

[@ericlammerman2777]

Here's what I'd like to hear Putin talk about: 1) His past involvement in the World Economic Forum and relationship with Klaus Schwab 2) His conversion to Eastern Orthodoxy

[@cantrun5491]

Like your first question, cuz it was mine.

[@smrdljivivlah5879]

Conversion? He is east orthodox, they just dont openly say it during communism. He never converted

[@darrelldunn4618]

Putin is standing up to the WEF. If you look up Putin's last speech before the WEF then you would find answers.

[@makeouthill4822]

@@darrelldunn4618 agreed

[@farzana6676]

@@darrelldunn4618 Putin is murderous dictator killing his opposition.

[@lassenrregaardjohansen2981]

Look at Singapore, they had what was close to the perfect leader in their first prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, in almost miraculous fashion he made the country rich out of nothing

[@hakuei7530]

@@bluejar5614 what did his kids do?

[@ajnaughtin1]

Not knocking Singapore. But being a tax haven and making everyone rich is not impressive. A system of government that is very stable and respects people's rights is impressive.

[@lassenrregaardjohansen2981]

@@ajnaughtin1 not only a tax haven??? It is literally top 3 In terms of wealth. Has THE best public housing system in the world, and the standard of living, in almost all aspects, is absurdly high

[@pondeify]

@@hakuei7530 they secretly eat kids (i heard)

[@Nitrotoast1]

@@ajnaughtin1 I get what you mean. I’d love to live there regardless

[@tokesalotta1521]

You would think Rogan would've learned by now to ignore all the rumors, and especially when they come from those pounding the war drums, or just the political drums

[@swetsTV]

What “rumors” ? Everything said here is FACTual.

[@hakunamatata1880]

@@swetsTV that Putin has cancer. As truthful as the one about Kim Jong Un having cancer.

[@Viva_la_natura]

Nope...seems to have the average Joe thing going

[@DZR-qo2px]

Joe is sucker for neo-cons so long as they have a cool back story like being a navy seal or green beret.

[@Reythscipe]

You haven't listened to him, have you?

[@SeawolvesTV]

Lex, you should ask Putin: Could you explain to us, from your perspective, why the west, is everything we accuse Russia of being?

[@LoveFactorySweatShop]

Yes, yes, yes, we all remember clearly, when Finland and Sweden joined NATO Summer of 2022, it started as a bombing campaign with all 30 NATO members bombing strategic Finnish and Swedish air defenses, then NATO ground troops entered Finnish and Swedish soil, took control of Helsinki and Stokholm, and forced their Prime Ministers into NATO membership. I remember it like yesterday.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

Might as well ask why every country on Earth is fundamentally hypocritical.

[@Iskandr314]

@@LoveFactorySweatShop well thats what they did with the yugos lol

[@jessbracken8943]

I did like how Joe was wearing the lex Friedman suit for this past UFC 276

[@christopherwasko5948]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

[@Unkn.9wn]

@God Watch the podcast.. I thought you knew everything & see everything.. what happened?

[@Shoot_and_Scoot]

Was lex wearing a joe rogan suit after that? Extra medium t shirt and some jeans?

[@Bo0o0oppp]

I appreciate the diplomacy Lex personifies and the brute shenanigans that Joe brings to the table. Two opposites finding common ground 💙

[@LightS_bRight]

it's called having a conversation. I'm not even 30 yet and I was raised that not everyone has to think exactly like you in order to have basic principles, like respect.

[@adoubleu___]

Wise beyond your years

[@ether23-23]

@Orlando Santos then how did you type that?

[@NoticerOfficial]

How’s the cancer? How’s it going buddy?

[@bcampbell1826]

Hahahahahahahaha! where brute shenanigans crosses paths with diplomacy. Scotia Girl Love It!

[@ewrecked1528]

If we’re worried about the health of our leaders…why do we keep electing elderly politicians?

[@typedef_]

Election is an illusion nowadays. If all the options were selected by someone else, then it really wasn't your choice when you voted.

[@ccengineer5902]

Because we don't choose the candidates, the GOP and DNC do.

[@anthonyshackelford4579]

@@ccengineer5902 then reject them instead of excepting what they give you.

[@OA-B]

Money, fame, corruption

[@DesertStateInEU]

To be fair, the oldest presidents were the best so far. Thats Reagan and Trump.

[@simonRTJ]

"laws in place to keep money out of politics" this ladies and gentleman is how it should be done, and we shouldn't need to wish this if we could do it over, political change can happen if we all stand up to it.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

i told my neighbor this a long time ago and he told me that he doesn't want money out of politics because it might make our country worse. now i know you guys will disagree with what i'm going to say, but i think it needs to be said. i think there are many people like my neighbor in this country, and no matter what the politicians say or do, i will always blame the people. you guys were the ones who put them there and did nothing when shit hits the fan

[@rukus9585]

​@@Dave_of_Mordor maybe, but you, yourself did nothing and now wanna put others down. Sounds like you're the root of the problem.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@rukus9585 no I did something. You guys weren't with me because it was too slow for you to tweet about or share it on your Instagram. You guys are still the problem.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

Ok. They break the laws. Now what?

[@dik2bik]

BUT what money is going to pay to put those laws in place 😂

[@KJSvitko]

Lie, cheat and steal is all too common today. Greed and selfishness is every where. You can not trust people, businesses, or government to be honest and truthful. Parents and teachers stopped teaching children the "golden rule" 40 years ago and now honesty and caring for others keeps declining. Society and business can not function if no one can be trusted to tell the truth.

[@dwadd7528]

meanwhile , social media is full of honesty and kindness. and its all fake. they cant stop telling people how kind they are.

[@bayharborbutcher8132]

Sorry but ever since the human race existed, we tried to manipulate others for our own benefit. It’s in our nature..

[@fhucko]

Only solution is to decrease power of government, but it always goes in opposite direction, until revolution.

[@NoalFarstrider]

Capitalism 101 lie, cheat, steal and then mark up the price of anything your selling for an inflated value.

[@fhucko]

@@NoalFarstrider capitalism is about freedom, its about you, how you choose to live, i think you chose victim role

[@5593doug]

Basically they’re saying that British politics has the best system for voting. But then you look at Britain and see how fucked up it is, then you realise they aren’t right at all

[@xDMrGarrison]

"if he steals your watch I'll just buy you another one" lolol

[@ST5S5]

“I’ll buy you another watch if Putin steals it” 😂

[@icedboxtv]

its putins watch already

[@Pruthvikajaykumar]

Lex HAS to interview Putin. I hope it really happens

[@mrjoseph7056]

Relax, it never happens

[@oceanicfeeling3135]

Joe should look into history and find out a bit more about Putin and Russia.

[@tryingtings3245]

Yeah they enjoy huffing paint for generations and living in ignorance. Any PRESIDENT they could have got is better than Stalin in the russians eyes , ukrainin was a country before the ussr idk why they feel like they have the right .

[@Juandinggong]

He talks out of his ass, frankly it is uneducated who love listening to him. I personally never found him anything more than a talking head.

[@ayeejaayy5848]

You should too because judging by your comment, you don't know a single thing!

[@nick4819]

So should Lex.

[@bulgarianenglishpropertytr3555]

Russia from what I have seen on the internet seems to be a clean modern country. It has poverty of course but what country doesn't ?

[@JDNicoll]

The American revolution wasn’t just a rebellion against the British. It was a rebellion against the idea that an anointed few have the right to tell everyone else how to live. - paraphrased Thomas Sowell

[@robinpage2730]

Tell that to the US Supreme Court. We may end up having to remind them the hard way.

[@JDNicoll]

Returning powers to the states IS the process of “not telling others how to live.”

[@robinpage2730]

@@JDNicoll except for one thing: the state governments are now able to tell us how to live, without the oversight they had before. It's not a victory for life, it's a victory for government power. The fact that that power is state rather than federal doesn't make it better.

[@sweetspleen795]

@@robinpage2730 I am from Canada. The power is more centralized on the federal level. It's not better.

[@nick4819]

@@robinpage2730 Federal encompasses all states. One ruling for all. State levels allows each state to vote and decide on its own. If you don't like what X state believes and enforces, you are free in this country to move to Y state. Federal centralizes laws. Independent power that cannot exceed a federal power is a good combination.

[@rhysdixon6875]

Is Lex insinuating that Stalin wasn’t a genocidal maniac?!

[@nicksloan8860]

No, just that other than the genocide he was a pretty good guy

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

No, just that Stalin wasn't insane or divorced from reality. His point is that Stalin seemed to believe what he was doing was in the ultimate best interests of the USSR

[@rhysdixon6875]

@@RossKempOnYourMum01 pretty sure Hitler thought the same thing for Germany my guy 💁‍♂️ as Hitlers goal was to eradicate ethics, homosexuals, disabled, gypsy’s etc, Stalin just butchered his own people by a very very larger number compared to the Nazis

[@robinpage2730]

@@RossKempOnYourMum01 that's the problem, these ends-justify-the-means types. No goal, however lofty, justifies genocide

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

@@robinpage2730 neither I nor lex is saying it does you nuance-intolerant thicko, he's saying in Stalin and Putin's minds, they likely think they are acting in Russia's interests

[@LostJediJC]

Lex gets very uncomfortable when Rogan wants to discuss Russia and Putin

[@gilbertopadilla3611]

He's most likely a Russian spy.

[@ProbeGT2]

He's probably uncomfortable because if there's too much shit to be said, it might kill the little chance he has to interview Putin.

[@MS-wz9jm]

Joe doesnt have a lot of knowledge, thats the issue. He thinks Putin is a communist, he thinks that theres no opposition in Russia. He thinks you cant be critical of Putin etc. The reality is that Putin is a moderate and is viewed as somewhat weak by the Russian people. As for opposition, the leading opposition is the communist party who Putin has tried hard to keep out. When Putin goes there will be a hardliner, very likely communist who has a lot of support.

[@Suave121]

Didn’t Lex open up with a question about Putin ? 😂

[@zesalesjt7797]

I read earlier today that Russians troops freed Auschwitz. Anne Frank's book would not exist if her father had not survived. History is complex, but she was an amazingly talented writer. The Greeks saw each individual as a thread. Humanity is a tapestry that includes us all. Frayed fringes, flaws all come together in the most unimaginable ways. It is that realm that is beyond imagination that presents the idea of beauty. That which is within each of us that is out of reach of anyone is our soul.

[@maroszukaro9082]

They "freed" Auschwitz after helping to create it. Then proceeded to build their own torture chambers and deporting people to work camps in Siberia. When they were done with raping millions of women, or should i say females cause they were anywhere from 1 to 80 years old, murdering hundreds of thousands in the proces... Thanks russian troops, real liberators.

[@pamelapamper]

Anne Frank's father was some years ago in court battle over 'author rights' against some other man... the diary was fake or at least heavily rewritten.

[@lukeneill1568]

Pretty common knowledge about auschwitz. And yeah her dad wrote the book. You do realise who they were don’t you?

[@toudi_p]

The thing with soviet liberation is that they forget to leave. Also the liberated virginity's and whole factories on to trains to russia

[@zesalesjt7797]

@Jacques De Molay He was the last survivor of those involved with the book. His odds of survival decrease dramatically if the broader operation had not been stopped. I was rereading it recently and this seemed a valid and relevant opinion. I am conflicted by past and current events because I have friends on both sides of these conflicts. People I love and respect; not because they are perfect but because they do not crumble under the weight of hardship. It would be amazing if the mentally and physically strong were likewise morally strong. However, those who benefit from others' strengths may not have any resemblance or association with those who took initial action. That's the trouble with romanticism. It highlights what we admire and overlooks the reality because direct experience always loses something in translation so that I may seem like a foolish little girl because a foolish little girl pretended she was writing to me (Anne Frank's initial frame of mind was to treat her journal as letters to an imaginary friend.) What's sinister about reading it as an adult is the realization that one or more operatives could have posed as that friend during that time to take them all out while toying with them for sadistic pleasure. But, maybe I am just a simple fool in need of some.... *Deliberately deeply drawn breath to sigh for effect* -um, correction... ;-)

[@Thumper68]

To be fair Biden’s cognitive function in his prime was well below average.

[@2010RSHACKS]

Biden is an old fucking man. Stop electing geriatric presidents if you don’t want them to be cognitively declined. No American citizen wants a grandpa running the country other than the two major party’s who want nothing more than POWER

[@eluilus4017]

God's enemies devil demons their fans masons all their plans lies deeds witchcraft curses deceptions manipulations narratives propaganda brainwash mind control any control powers attacks weapons rituals spells symbolism desires be destroyed failen stopped punished demolished canceled removed cut broken ended forbidden overthrown in the name of Jesus Christ!

[@urosuros2072]

Are Trump fanboys capable of saying a single sentece that doesnt include Biden Living rent free

[@charleswood9886]

@@urosuros2072 no one mentioned Trump.

[@Thumper68]

@@urosuros2072 Clearly more capable then all the sjw snowflakes inability to cure their TDS.

[@RobinWilliams002]

I'd ask the same question to Biden about America's form of democracy, or any democracy for that matter...it all seems like a bit of an illusion.

[@jameshill6653]

100%. I'm perplexed as to how people in the West pretend this isn't the case. Willfully ignorant.

[@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962]

To equate Putin-era Russia with the US electoral system is laughable, even when the Electoral College defies the popular vote (such as in Bush vs Gore and Trump vs Clinton). The chasm between the two is astronomical.

[@ThatMidWestDude513]

@@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 because they don't know how a western Democracy works, they have never taken the time to actually see how our elections work and the procedures involved, they think because a guy is labeled president or the government is in a similar format then that means its a democracy, thats exactly why the guy said it all seems like an illusion because he doesn't know the details, he has an idea but not much context, they probably don't know that congress has more say and power then the president, they probably don't know how bills and amendments get passed or what the Supreme Court is even for or what senators do, they know very little about how western countries work, they have an idea but not much detail or context, and If i remember correctly only 3 american presidents in our history have won the election without winning the popular vote, Donald Trump somebody in the 1800s i think and maybe one other president, im blanking on their names

[@Ricatonniisasavage8854]

Democracies are stupid. We are a Constitutional Republic and The Current “Government” is so Anti-Constitution, that it’s truly Treasonous. We need Less Government and More Freedom.

[@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962]

@@Ricatonniisasavage8854 Go live out in the wilderness. You will find the freedom you THINK you want out there. Or you could live in the Middle East, or Africa. I think you will find that tribalistic warlords worse than a centralized government.

[@willxiahan364]

The average person in the West has never heard of Mr. Lee Kwan Yew.

[@pseudovibes98]

okay sure, but the average person in the East has never heard of Adolfo Suarez. I dont fault the East for not knowing this. So way bash on the West for the same reason?

[@HaydenDavidson6]

That's good. It means smart people who are in the 5% that see reality and are curious about life, have an advantage.

[@student987651]

The average person in the north has never heard of kangaroo jack

[@DinoMan_6]

Must keep him a secret…jk

[@pseudovibes98]

true

[@scottadams2977]

Ask Russia about democracy? 2014 Princeton study shows that we are a real oligarchy, and the average citizen has no influence on policy or law. Policy and law are forges by less than ten percent of the population. So who are we to ask other countries whether or not they are democracy?

[@excuseyou1526]

The blatant assassinations and imprisonment of political opposition and journalists, Criminalizing protesting and cracking down on press freedoms, rampant corruption on every metric compared to US, there's plenty to critizise. Americans tend to forget how well they have it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

[@AnnaSpatar]

There’s no democracy in Russia, only on paper. But of course p’s answer will be - we have democracy, the majority elected me, what else do you want? Although the elections are always falsified and mean nothing.

[@scottadams2977]

@@AnnaSpatar then why do the majority of Russians support their government? and why do most other countries citizens support their government only to have the US fly in and say they are "bringing democracy"? Its ridiculous

[@scottadams2977]

@@AnnaSpatar the US on paper isnt even a democracy, its a republic

[@grigoryevstepan]

Facts

[@comment6864]

Putin is absolutely the best leader for Russia right now at this time in history. The rest is moot. Who cares if it's called democracy or shmemocracy. The majority of Russian people right now are actually scared that anything should happen to Putin. How about that! That speaks volumes in itself. All the worry that was being expressed when he wanted to fly to South Africa or anywhere else. People were like please keep him in the country right now, we need him here. And then when it became clear he's not going, everyone was like.. phew.. I don't even know if this phenomenon has a precedent in history. I think Putin would LOVE nothing more than to be able to retire and play with his grandkids and dogs, but he senses that this is not his fate right now. And that's not coming from him, but from all corners of Russia, its people, its leadership.. Clearly as a result he believes it is God's providence for him right now, and he obeys. And works very hard, as everyone knows.. The sooner the west gets over the insanely stupid caricaturish cartoonish depiction of him in their heads, that has ZERO to do with reality, the sooner they will stop looking like idiots.

[@chickenlover657]

None of these people understand that because they don't understand the russian mind or heart. And they never will because they don't see a reason to try.

[@zachulayev7490]

At least you know who is the leader with Putin. Who really knows who runs Biden.

[@tryingtings3245]

Lol freedom with a bit of unknown is better than gulag and no internet or McDonald's or empathy 🤣 but I guess you can justify this however yall want.

[@tryingtings3245]

@Mario from stating a fact ? They have a crap economy no internet I mean north Korea is there aswell buddy 😉 reddit lmao never had an account btw

[@tryingtings3245]

@Mario sounds like English isn't a first language for you , are you Russian? Lol I don't have to go to Russia to see how "well they do " they infact did shut down access to internet that's a fact unless you have a vpn baby boy , they were desperate after stallin now they get what they get. You can act condescending all you want while the people suffer from a fantastic government

[@tryingtings3245]

Also Mario lmao 🤣 what do russian people have now they don't have an economy they are literally on the same path as North Korea they don't have enough food even.

[@tryingtings3245]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3yzkH54nd-Wrrs lol

[@ElliotBrownJingles]

These two are a gift to humanity.

[@andrehb]

In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

[@indepundint]

I would take Rogan more seriously if he disclosed his biases more readily But that wouldn’t be as funny

[@tudoot]

If spewing stupid rumors is a blessing then yes

[@GULAGUKRAINE]

🟡🟡🟡 It’s so sick to talk about Putin’s illness it’s kind of a palliative to soothe the western audiences. When the US can do actually nothing to deter Putin or get him do they way America wants they can gratify Americans that Putin has cancer Putin is ill 😷 all kinds of fake narratives pushing as much as they can. Kim Jun Un is not on the US agenda yet. America is preoccupied with Russian and Chinese threat - America is marking its audiences obsessed by the IS administration obsessions. You remember that (Islamic terror threat) back in 2001 pre Afghanistan invasion.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

"I don't think Stalin lost his mind", holy fuck Lex...

[@kattatonic8010]

@@Krytern Extreme paranoia is losing your mind...

[@elfamosodpereira]

Here in Chile We had a dictatorship and even though oposition was being persecuted and killed, still the amount of people that was against the regimen was too overwhelming to keep the dictator in power. Not sure if persecuting alone can keep the approval of Putin to the level it was in the previous election, that is, if you believe in the official numbers...

[@jordrider1917]

You mean U.S. backed Pinochet?

[@elfamosodpereira]

@@jordrider1917 Well, they did, but I was only talking about the fact that persecuting rivals doesn't seam to correlate to the lack of support for Putin's opposition

[@Anarchistarchitect]

people love the man, its difficult to take that away

[@ThatMidWestDude513]

Its also ingrained in them to not speak out against their government in fear of retaliation or persecution, from generations of people living under a strict Communist government, especially when Stalin was in power, its much simpler for them to live their life quietly like they have been since the 1930s or whenever the communist revolution happened or whatever you wanna call it, then to risk death or imprisonment, before communism came they were protesting and having revolts against their government, not so much after their royal family were executed by the communists, its much much simpler to live a quite life and to avoid anything that goes against what their government says, rather then get sent to the gulags or put in front of a firing squad, just look at how many of their big time Ceos over their that have wound up dead in the past couple months, or they wind up missing, politicians or men in general with some influence being shot down in the street, poisoned or arrested, just look at Alexi Navalny

[@m00njaguar]

​@@Anarchistarchitect some people love Putin, others are indifferent and some hate him. Same as with Trump, with fanatical base. The Russian people are afraid to speak honestly to pollsters about the dictator, so polls there can never be accurate mirrors of real public opinion. One day we may reach a tipping point when a majority is turned against him, but this may never happen

[@jcrotea]

Putin would push back by pointing out what America’s democracy elected in 2020. ‘Nuff said.

[@matejzizanovic7959]

Also would ask, if USA could destroy a beautiful country and culture like Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis when Russia wanted to place missiles 5 minutes away from Washington, why is it different when Russia is destroying Ukraine when USA plans to put missiles 3 minutes from Moscow? Its pretty much the same situation...

[@derekfume8810]

@@matejzizanovic7959 that doesn't justify such things. You can't go and kill someone, just because you once heard the someone done that.

[@matejzizanovic7959]

@@derekfume8810 Ofcourse, both are horrible things, im not arguing that...

[@ccdsds3221]

@@derekfume8810 it completely justifies it though. If I can destroy a whole country so can you...

[@tomaofdonewelll7810]

@@derekfume8810 I think the guy is drawing parallels between the two situations. Why is it okay for the US to threaten nuclear war for USSR putting nukes on Cuba, yet considered a war crime in the west for Russia to not allow Ukraine to join NATO where they could house nukes next door.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

Here's the thing: prior to 2010 it _was_ illegal to donate more than.. ...$2500.00?...is that right?....at any rate, it was some incredibly small sum compared to the billions that are thrown around now. I do believe that exceeding that amount was a federal crime, 'influence buying' or some such. _But_ ....in 2010 the bright dimbulbs in Washington DC passed Citizens United, which opened the gates of hell by making corporations persons and real persons essentially subject to corporations. As an extra incentive for The Up And Coming Sociopaths Of America, unlimited campaign donations were now deemed legal. So, dig it...they just made what was a major crime ALL GOOD. What's next? Rape? Murder? Pedophilia? When the powerful and wealthy can just remove those nasty old rights of the people, remove constitutional and long standing legislation designed to prevent the America we now have, and preserve democracy, then _democracy_ , (pardon my descent into gutter language but it is ever so appropriate at times), is a fucking joke.

[@ufox77]

I don’t doubt you, but do you have any more info on this? From the UK it’s hard to know where to look. 2010 does seem to be where the rot really set into Western politics, with the political classes deciding to focus on appeasing only a small section of society, an impenetrable sense of entitlement growing in the political elites, with a commensurate loss of any ability to reflect on their failures. An explosion of corruption would help explain the chaos we’re seeing as responsible governance is replaced by a mosh pit of competing, grasping interests..

[@wolfumz]

It was considered a first amendment right to give money, which is pretty astonishing when you think about it (particularly when you think about how other rights, like Roe v Wade, or Gay Marriage, were these convoluted arguments about implied right to privacy, and that because the constitution doesn't say anything about marriage explicitly then it must be delegated to the states, very weak when compared to the affirmative "This is a natural human right.") Remember Animal Farm? Everyone is equal- but some are more equal than others. That's citizen's united, to me.

[@bodystomp5302]

100% spot on.

[@bodystomp5302]

@@ufox77 The US Supreme Court gave Citizens United the green light. Future historians will regard this as the beginning of America's demise, IMO.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

@@bodystomp5302 There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that you are correct about this. After 2010, you only have to watch the exponential runaway acceleration of the corporate takeover of America to know that when governments pass such legislation, it is not because they understand how big corporations are all mushy gooshy feels and just want to help the American Citizen _so much_ that they had to pass citizens United so that they could just _HELP us ALL to have a BETTER LIFE_ without all those dumb Constitutional rights and antitrust laws messing up their _ALTRUISM!_ No, it's because they intend on taking away any control that the people have, as conferred by the Bill of Rights and Constitution, to enforce the idea that politicians work for _We The People_ , and corporations are merely convenient legal entities that exist to make running a business possible. That corporations are persons is such a vile idea....yet the SCOTUS sure went for it...because of course the SCOTUS is as owned as the rest of our government. It's nauseating, because the assholes did it, and because 90% of the populace has no idea what Citizens United is. SMDH.. The only fix for this is a massive push to return this country to the guiding principles of the Bill Of Rights,, Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. Under those founding documents, most of the legislation passed, or overturned (Smith Mundt 1948, Roe v Wade, to name two big ones) from 2010 to now would be immediately thrown out due to being, simply, _UNCONSTITUTIONAL_

[@michael.h984]

0:21 Referring to a hostile military base of the US as a "sovereign country" makes me lough 😅

[@MrBigczech]

Joe - Doesn't Live In An Empire - Rogan

[@icarium6031]

Do these two really think America is a democracy?

[@kodykendall]

I typically really like Joe Rogan, but this clip really makes me question how accurate his thinking is, especially on this topic. The idea that presidential term limits should be questioned is absolutely horrifying, and shows a massive lack of understanding in history and government. Yes, a benovelent, absolute ruler/leader for 20-30 years can be amazing for a society, but the problem is… “who comes next?” And the answer is that 9/10 of the following leaders become absolute despots and ruin their country and their society out of greed, fear, ignorance, and malice. Look at the Roman Empire, and compare Augustus to all the following emperors, and Marcus Aurelius. When you have a good emperor, all is well. But after that, look out, because it becomes literal hell on earth.

[@apnwu369]

Yep most humans are stupid and want to be totally controlled and enslaved. They hate freedom and the responsibility it entails. Without an evolution of consciousness of humanity we will be always stuck with these psychopaths controlling us.

[@Murmur1131]

Same. Big minus for lex

[@wow3950]

Totally agree. When you create a position like that, where power is extremely concentrated, then sure, you _might_ have 30 years of a “good and benevolent” (btw, what defines good and benevolent? Good and benevolent for you because you support them, but what about people with dissenting opinions?) ruler who wants the best for his country, but what about after that? What if someone who is deceptive and power hungry takes the throne? Or someone who you hate but the opposition loves? What happens to your ability to express dissent or protest? Well, take a look at the opposition leaders in Russia and China, or just look at history. The end up dead or imprisoned. It’s too much power in one individual and fundamentally goes against what the founders of America wanted, which was a diffusion of power across all levels to ensure that a balance could be maintained. Love their pods and they have plenty of strong points, but Joe and Lex are mostly out of their league when it comes to geopolitics. That being said, they are two individuals who are actively learning and trying to figure things out like all of us so it’s not to be held against them, but I think we often under-appreciate what we have because it’s assumed that it’s always been like that, when in reality and throughout history, it never has.

[@Pulver]

Angela Merkel lead Germany for 16 years in 4 terms maximum. It would be also okay if there a more terms in the US

[@CrazyChickenFarmer]

True, it's way better to have different demented lunatics in office every 4 years. At least that way everybody gets their turn to milk the taxpayer

[@BigDogRenzel]

Lex, get real. Biden had to be issued a paper that say “YOU take YOUR seat.”. Biden is no longer with us at that point. We know to which to degree, it’s quite serious.

[@L.Scott_Music]

The "power corrupts" issue is addressed on one hand by limiting the power of a particular position. The problem is that people, for good or bad intent, seek to expand that power. Time is the factor that allows people to entrench their power as over time they find ways to get around or subvert their limits. Presidential power is well limited by two terms, but the political party is the mechanism in which entrenched power can endure. Currently this enduring power emanates from Congress. Term limits on the House and Senate would not only fill the trenches of Congress but also would curtail the power of the lobbyists who have very long-term relationships with various representatives and institutions. I would also suggest term limits on many bureaucratic positions.

[@LetsGoGetThem]

Term limits are introduced to curtail people's power, and then they sell them as the opposite. Term limits are a limit to democracy, not an expansion of it. That is why it was introduced in the wake of FDRs real democratic supremacy which he got from his successful welfare programs which the wealthy of his party and the opposition did not like. His extended term was only enabled by his rule that benefitted the masses, the few rich people didnt like this very much. This is not a coincidence.

[@Thawhid]

🚴‍♂️

[@5IvanDrago5]

There is a great anime for adults called Legends of Galactic Heroes, its inspired by a series of books from the 80's in Japan. Dont let the anime confuse you, this is a intelligent and intellectual show that explores Democracy vs a Dictatorship. The good and bad of both, and I always thought the story of Democracy was a bit nihilistic, but sadly its coming true before our eyes.

[@vietnamsemonky4082]

Amazing anime recommendation.

[@greyrug1460]

Notoriety is also legacy. You get your name in the history books as the first person to use nukes after WW2.

[@tekannon7803]

Joe, with all due respect, when you're talking about a world leader, your personal feelings or talk about a possible serious health concern is off the table and it shows disrespect. We must realize that name calling does not fly on the international stage. Once, when Hugo Chavaz called George W. a SOB, Putin called Chavaz and gave him hell for talking so disrespectfully. You have to be humble and forget sometimes the man you have become with power, fame and wealth. You have to be all of that but humble and talk with respect for foreign leaders and ask factual questions---they can be direct---but nothing personal.

[@carlosgaspar8447]

boris yeltsin led russia into poverty and putin brought russia into the world stage with a strong economy (maybe not by the most honest means) and for that he is respected.

[@getagrip4411]

Even if it’s true or not… he can still talk about it, as a matter of fact he can talk about anything he wants. I’m sure Putin won’t be butthurt. Why are you ?

[@tekannon7803]

@@getagrip4411 GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGreaaaaatttttt to hear from you. You are completely right. And: the proof is Joe Rogan says whatever he wants and 11 million people think he's doing just fine like that. We're 2,000 kilometers from a war that could go past the Ukraine's borders any day. Russian soldiers and Ukrainian soldiers and civilians are dying. I give the same advice to the Ukrainian fighters who call Putin names. I doesn't do anything but make it look even worse. It's best to stay diplomatic and report the war or describe Russia's leader in civil and respectuous terms and report how they're fighting and not what you think of them personally. Joe is on the international stage, it's tough for people who have become wealthy beyond belief, famous and powerful to stay humble, but once you reach the pinnacle of success you must come down off your charging stallion. It's the challenge for reaching your dream, now you have to be like someone starting out and forget the dough and star power.

[@EnvyofSunTse]

I agree. Also, a couple of things Joe said about Russia and Putin just don't fly, like the poisons political opposition. Until today there is no evidence Putin was involved in any of that. Russian spies... maybe, but even that hasn't been actually proven. When you interview someone like Putin with that mindset, you are the wrong person for the job....

[@realpatriotusa]

Putin wants what’s best for Putin. I have a neighbor from Russia who served in the red army. He has been telling me since 2009 that Putin would invade Ukraine and other surrounding countries. He also has a great answer anytime politics is brought up. “Politics is a dirty dirty business “ he says in his thick Russian accent. He also says countries are businesses not countries. Very smart man that has great insight.

[@BM-wf9uf]

Putin stood up at the Munich security summit in 2007 in front of NATO leaders and literally told them he was going to wage war on Europe.

[@scottlosey4978]

Yup......Putin playing chess and the US checkers.......

[@VolkovVelikan]

Bro, the red army hasn’t been a thing since the end of world war 2 . Cut your bullshit.

[@hovan2yourjunk]

If I had a dollar for every time Rogan said “I have a friend…” blah blah blah to justify a belief, I’d be driving a new car. He’s the absolute king of anecdotes!

[@abil3362]

you got to respect how humble Lex is. He asks his friends what to ask putin on air and not off air.

[@timmullins6939]

this just in Rogan-elections in usa are also a joke

[@maxwho3162]

He literally says that in the video. Maybe watch it before you comment.

[@timmullins6939]

@@maxwho3162 he says that way AFTER so efya

[@gtaatmiami]

lex and putin would be an unbelievable podcast. i hope it happens

[@urosuros2072]

Scientist interviewing murderrus dictator ? What could possibly go wrong ...

[@jacobdahl6778]

I think in Putin's mind he just wants an honest interview and to be heard. Lex can give him that. I think it could happen.

[@urosuros2072]

@@jacobdahl6778 im sure Hitler also just wanted to be heard

[@gtaatmiami]

@@urosuros2072 it would be great insight to understand the other side of the geopolitical spectrum. Western nations have committed plenty of atrocities in other countries. Are you meaning to tell me we haven’t killed thousands of innocent lives in our countless invasions? It’s well documented.

[@freeloader247]

Murderous dictator lol. Hahahahaha. Every, EVERY politician is a murderer. Thats a price u pay for ruling a country. Every single one of them. As for dictators thats debatable.

[@wbaldwin666]

I expected much more "have you tried DMT" questions in the comments

[@jerry85g7]

These dudes are not on that level.

[@iainshallish2631]

Love how Americans believe their country is a democracy. I thought a democracy was when the majority of a populace had their voice moved into law? Not when an establishment tells you what the law will be. So confusing.... and I live in one... Everyone seems to forget democracy is not about elections but the voice of a Nation. Strange times.

[@CombatSportsLeague]

Rogan is a sellout. Literally typical elitist behaviour has consumed him.

[@williewalker8048]

I disagree with Biden being mocked. He is a complete loss, cognitively. Waving to and wanting to shake hands with Harvey the rabbit is proof he's gone!

[@HBC423]

You disagree with him being mocked? Then mock him right after that... yeah he's clearly not doing well, but fox does mock him. It's like making fun of a special Olympics kid

[@bboyshotty]

Joe immediately went out and bought a Lex Friedman suit and wore it at the UFC event over the weekend haha

[@samuelreese6357]

Lol. Democracy, Joe? Good one.

[@rocktheelement]

He actually contradicted his previous statement on democracy at 6:23 by saying it's not about the people or for the people and that the political system is corrupt with money. He's actually right about money and corruption, but how can you call it a democracy? The USA is a plutocracy.

[@dariomladenovski6481]

he actually believes US is a democracy lmao

[@Ammon6]

Im more afraid of the people who are active part of the military industrial complex. The real owners. Those are the ones we all should be afraid.

[@sallyroddy6566]

Love you Joe but I think you have to at least entertain the thought that NATO and the US backed Putin into a corner. You will find there is more to this very soon. love and light

[@Nicholas_Frizzell]

tell me about the men in black suits who pull the strings in the US and how the people could take back their country what are the pros and cons of both democracy and communism what are things you wish you could do for your country and what are the things in the way of that what are his thoughts on MMT & FIAT currency and how do you think an economy should be run

[@damskowest]

Joe or Lex should have John Mearsheimer on their podcast. They know jack shit about geopolitics and why Russia invaded Ukraine.Putin addressed the very basic of this in the Munich speech in 2007

[@reginaldmcnab3265]

4:20 - 4:30 is the election in the US not a joke too, if it wasn’t then only the government could provide money for campaigning for political office and each candidate running for the same office would get equal amount of money and that way the arms dealers wouldn’t be able to give money and so not own the government as they do now.

[@poljenol6868]

I remember Biden being asked why he thinks people might be concerned about his mental fitness. He reassuringly answered he had no idea.

[@MyAnalyser]

To be honest Biden was always the gaffe generator, so that is nothing new. It's just that we used to call them just gaffes but now we blame his age. Bidens debate with Trump was a huge win for Biden not because he was that good but because Republicans were constantly claiming that he couldn't string together two sentences and when he actually did string together sentences everyone was surprised and he exceeded all expectations.

[@ATF-]

​@@MyAnalyser I'm not politically aligned and dont really care, but Biden was DEFINITELY off some peformancing enhancing substances during that debate

[@blairrobert3438]

@@MyAnalyser Its amazing how republicans seem to think Trump was mentally stable.

[@jordrider1917]

Imagine believing that the U.S. is a democracy because we're able to choose between corporate shill #1 and #2.

[@НемањаРашевић]

hahaha on point!

[@masonharkness6437]

It’s quite the illusion they have created

[@trd7639]

Imagine not knowing Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution clearly states that America is a "Republic."

[@RTL2L]

Underrated comment.

[@s123-v3x]

The United States is a democracy, just not a perfect democracy

[@GBuckne]

..it seems that he trusted no one after the collapse and took charge and to this day trusts no one else to do the job...

[@bryanfeliciano4102]

We all know we have a borderline vegetable in the white house some people just don't want to admit it.

[@SkullDivisioN564]

🥔

[@andreygv]

Anybody that dislikes Putin needs to hear his full interviews.

[@anonymanonym6236]

it is easier to follow the media and to have no opinion lol. but i agree. i see him as an very smart person

[@dnzz5273]

2 of my favourite podcasters on the same podcast 😄

[@joshwalker7774]

The Beavis and Butthead laugh at 1:39 was amazing

[@abrvalg321]

Asking Putin if he's dying for cancer is like asking Joe Rogan if he's actually green.

[@natashawatson385]

Can these two talk about WEF and their Plans and who really is involved 🤔

[@sombojoe]

Lex, regretfully history doesn’t highlight the “Nice” leaders.

[@FansOfCrypto]

I was on a strong dosage of pred for about 3 months, can confirm that my face swelled up a lot

[@32kirby32]

What medical condition was it prescribed for

[@ResoluteRonin]

A Politicians job is to keep the people divided so they can be controlled. United we stand, divided we fall.

[@davejohnson1979]

“ I think he would be more focused on his legacy… I do think he wants to be remembered to be a great leader” … isnt that what Hitler thought? lol

[@MsCwebb]

How would anybody know what Hitler thought. It's fair to assume most leaders want to be remembered as great though.

[@bmtentertainment279]

The irony of Rogan talking about someone having a big head

[@The420kingchronic]

My question would be "what secrets do you know being a world leader that would shatter most people's concept of normalcy?" I bet that dude knows some crazy shit.

[@pamelapamper]

He knows Earth if Flat for starters.

[@pamelapamper]

@@attila_895 yes.

[@bballchart8398]

Plato said in the Republic that the leaders of the state should have no private property. Serving the state was their reward. Maybe he was onto to something.

[@shannalee2520]

yes, and the leaders ( esp. deep state ) should be the ones under surveillance by the civilians, and not civillians deeply surveilled and micromanaged by the hellish govt to be the serfs.

[@rusalkin]

You think stalin had private property? :)

[@bballchart8398]

@@rusalkin Sure he did but his country wasn’t based on the ideal state that Plato described.

[@rusalkin]

@@bballchart8398 The entire soviet system was based on plato and you are on dmt if you think soviet leaders had property or could pass it on to their children. Those who tried got shot. In fact that is the reason it collapsed because they wanted to convert their power into money and obviously the west did all they cold to help them in that matter.

[@bballchart8398]

@@rusalkin In the Soviet Union nobody could have private property. In Plato’s republic only the leaders couldn’t have private property but the others could. This fact alone is enough to show that Soviet Union wasn’t based on Plato’s republic.

[@ulysses3349]

On the longevity of the ruler versus 4 year terms: Switzerland, in my opinion, kinda figured it out. Decentralized power and highly reliant on public consultations (for the citizens). Of course it is mainly sustainable we are talking about a very small Country with high education standards. But I guess if you adopt the CH model for States and have a similar model for the Federal sphere, you'll have a win there. But it relies a lot on a good control on who gets to be a citizen, which will be criticized since it's a big no-no for philosophies that undermines the view of Country in liew of the Party...

[@markttabor7812]

It's in the mountains. Good place for the super rich to have bunkers. That's my guess.

[@electricityofmind6300]

worse police state than the USA. Look it up. Locals have few freedoms.

[@DomDeDom]

If a strong leader is in power for too long, people will follow the direction of the leader, less so the law. Corruption abounds. Country will suffer. If the leader can be changed easily, people will follow the laws first, but the leader. Helps keep corruption in check

[@AxionXIII]

I’d ask him: Who killed JFK. And are Aliens real. He’s been around decades, he knows some shit. The shit we think other leaders would know, but don’t actually do.

[@AnnaLVajda]

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[@Klypin]

4:42. Если Путин популярен среди большинства, тогда победа на выборах является показателем этого. И это демократия. Почему то американцы приввкли в разговорах о демократии подменять понятия, и делают это уже не осознанно. Вассалы сша не все демократии. Так же как демократия не всегда вассал США. Можно быть вассалом и не быть демократией. Можно быть демократией и не быть вассалом.

[@rlopez11-11]

👍

[@gjermund8053]

Putin is not as irrational as people believe.. Like him or hate him. Please try to be more objective.

[@EmilyW.isawakenotwoke]

Why does Joe hate Vlad so much? I would have thought he would have been more educated on the subject than to buy into the bullshit? 🙏🕊️🌻❤️

[@Blashmack]

He is well educated and that is the reason why he hates the dictator.

[@EmilyW.isawakenotwoke]

@@Blashmack don't get me wrong, I'm all for Joe... But surely he of all people must understand that every human lives under dictatorship. What is labelled democracy is a total farce. The difference between Vlad and the democratic leaders is that he is actually leading the country to look after the people... Not destroying them in the name of "freedom and democracy".

[@paulmarshall690]

I like the thoughtful honesty and self discipline of LEX. I’m NOT IMPRESSED by Joes DRUG USE. It’s irresponsible and way NOT COOL. Any fool can shove drugs into his body; and so many do! The REAL high value MAN dosent!

[@sethstriker]

Uhhhhhhh.... Mr. Lex Fridman, why is your retort - "do you ask Biden those types of questions?" when Joe asked a deep hitting question about Putin? You, good Sir, have shown your hand.

[@Stein871]

"Just invaded a sovereign country" - ironic coming from an american citizen who wasn't bombed back to the stone age for 20 years

[@dan4461]

there is no contradiction here, only americans are allowed to care about their national security

[@nancym.1700]

Off topic question for Lex and Joe! How the heck is Google Surveys asking me questions about things I've only thought about and never searched for online or talked about outloud?

[@theintroverse1905]

Same thing happens to me with Ads. I second this off-topic question.

[@andrewofaiur]

Google/KZbin doesn't even try to hide it anymore. They succeeded in engineering human thought.

[@WorIdComingDown]

Because AI has already taken over and know our thoughts. And you would never know... lol.

[@2010RSHACKS]

Because reality is an illusion that you alone control

[@ElFresco214]

Imagine you just being an algorithm by now

[@WadeStar]

6:27 The benevolent dictator is without a doubt the best form of government. The problem is that in reality, the framework required to enable a benevolent dictator is the same one that enables the corrupt, incompetent, and/or psychopathic dictators. Combined with the reality that all leaders are mortal and will be replaced, there is no way to have a benevolent dictator for a time without having a terrible dictator for most of the rest of it.

[@cuylshepherdton7437]

It's really interesting watching this KGB asset interview this CIA asset.

[@krTog1]

"Benevolent leader" can still be a dictator in more than one way, but that's not necessarily a bad thing for the benefit of many.

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

I think it's possible for a dictator to be benevolent. Even looking out for their own best interests, as well as their people to ensure that he's not ended by an angry ctizen.

[@FreelanceJanitor]

Buying lex the same exact watch would be such a boss move. What a good buddy. I want to buy my friends watches.

[@BillyKone]

joe's a real one

[@TonyZmex]

Asking for perfection is ridiculous

[@scottpulver]

I agree with Lex on Binden's mental health. You never know. He could be getting tired and just run out of gas at times.

[@thomasbarlow4223]

Doubt it dudes gone

[@jrg5315]

Dude what? Biden says random shit and shakes hands with nobody. “End of quote repeat the line” he can’t read a teleprompter lol full on Dementia this guy has.

[@mrj3217]

Americans have the right to force change to this broken government. It's is our government , we need to step up man. As a pissed off nation. Make our changes or the system changes.

[@friendlyhobo6483]

Joe thinks Fox news is not mainstream media. Cute.

[@bigheadrhino]

6:30 Lee Kwan Yew, founder of Singapore is probably the closest leader to fit this description.

[@stylz1]

Ghandi? The current leader of Tawain maybe.

[@kaptenkrok8123]

Its funny that rogan thinks usa is a democracy

[@HemiJB91]

It is but under biden its been taken

[@davidabbett7011]

Isn't progress measured by funerals? Otherwise, we would have the same leaders for decades or longer, and doesn't a leader become either a tyrant or set in his / her ways the longer they stay in power. I completely agree with taking money out of politics, and how we need to remove the irresponsible idea of corporations being treated like citizens.

[@Stinktierchen]

God...such intelligent people calling Putin a dictor just made me instantly assume I was wrong about your intelligence

[@scaredzigger]

Putin is a dog. He will burried in a tarp with no headstone when the time comes. I hope you russians can take your country back when it happens. God help us all if yall get bought up by some billionaires

[@seventeen9718]

Are you implying the man that imprisoned his political opposition isn't a dictator?

[@Stinktierchen]

@@seventeen9718 Yes I am. That doesnt make a leader a dictator! And I know its boring already... -> Assange was imprisoned by Putin of course ... There are everywhere political prisoners. Just the west is so freaking hipocritical pretending to live in a so called democracy! Putin isnt a dictator by its definition. He most certainly is authoritarian with lots of power. You can call him whatever you want, its you point of view and choice. But you are wrong nontheless.

[@seventeen9718]

@@Stinktierchen So you admit he's at least an Authoritarian... Who just so happens to be the richest man on earth because he's used his position to extract money from the country. Actively won't allow a fair election whilst he's removed term limits... Sure sounds like a dictator to me. Not gonna argue with you though, if you choose to be wilfully ignorant then that's on you.

[@Stinktierchen]

@@seventeen9718 Hehehe.... wilfully ignorant. Says the ignorant, sorry. How do you know that he is the richest person on earth, from the same people who told you that he is a dictator? How do you know that elections are unfair in Russia? The people who told you that he is a dictator said so? I live in Germany and many Germans even like and support Putin. He is absolutely not your avarage democrat. But yeah right, we saw fair election in the US. And yeah right Trudeau seemed to be a decent guy. The difference between Russia and the so called west is simple. In Russia every damn person and child knows how the political elite functions. Nobody is under the illusion that there is pure and clean democracy in their country. But here in the west people still assume they live in democracies. They lie to themselfs and they believe it themselfs. I totally support Putin, he is no joke. But I know he loves his country and his people at least, with all its limitations. I know for a fact that Scholz and Bärbock and Habeck and many other German pliticians do NOT love Germans and Germany. As Putin said some motnhs ago in one of his speeches. "Politics may be dirty, yes. But not to that level" Yes.. Politics is a dirty game and most certainly Putin has made himself very dirty. But at least he isnt a god damn hipocrite like you westerns are.

[@walidsarwary]

If you have cancer doesn't mean u gonna die , there are many people who survived cancer and lived a good life after for many many years.

[@ulrichveh1123]

Nice, instead of discussing Russia, the political system, the corruption, the war let's complain about the US system.

[@saturn724]

Imo the US at this period should prioritize fixing its own domestic issues. There's quite a bit of denial and hubris by neocons trying to project power at multiple fronts while the inhouse is crumbling. It's unsustainable.

[@fungus2116]

Ever hear about glass houses?

[@luffebassen]

@@fungus2116 I doubt he has. Brainwashed like most these days.

[@ulrichveh1123]

@@fungus2116 ok, but then why discuss about Russia?

[@rumfordc]

@@ulrichveh1123 to sell weapons?

[@estebanpardo9611]

Joe is so funny he calls usa a democracy and then he said a our system is so corrupted by money and it’s not for the people by the people