1st Drive "New" M8 Competition 0-60 in 2.78 Seconds! Disappointing Package! | 4k

[@JoeAchilles1]

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[@timad260]

When it is cold, those tires will become hard like a stone and make this ride uncomfortable

[@theraving90s65]

What about a used 850?

[@tracylee2190]

Driving in the wet is probably the reason you don't like the drive of the M8 Comp

[@chrisbetts6194]

Agree. I just watched a recent review of the 2023 DBS that had a price of over $400,000.

[@justinstanfordsa]

Just bought new LCI M8 Comp, and based on this video changed the Pirelli’s it came with for the oem spec Michelin 4S - and you were exactly right, the ride quality is much better, that hard edge on ripples and bumps is gone! 👏

[@Kelveron]

Top review as always. Totally agree that it is very pricy, and too heavy as well, nevertheless what a gorgeous looking car. I've never seen the M8 as an 911 rival. It's far too big and heavy for that. I see it more like an Aston Martin DB11 and Bentley GT rival, but much cheaper than those cars. That said, personally I'd go for the M850i, which is almost as quick (as a daily anyway), more comfy and far cheaper too.

[@cammydough3184]

Tbh what does it matter if it’s too heavy if it still does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds

[@vantheman1238]

M850 is a better car

[@saigaikwad415]

​@@cammydough3184 well yes, it does do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds but the weight will affect it in the corners/handling.

[@santana9537]

Completely agree. It’s more of a high performance luxury GT car. M850i will blitz any Bentley or Aston so the m8 can be a bit over powered. But for the size and presence this is more of a luxury GT car with the perfect blend of the Bentley GT and the 911

[@samthoma2719]

@@cammydough3184 well then we should all just get a Tesla if it’s about 0-60 sprints and nothing else. Weight kills handling and feel etc.

[@Usengwayo]

0-60 = 2.78 seconds, but people say its over priced. Lets just address the elephant in the room, BMW failed to sell this flagship vehicle thats why its heavily critized. It has all the performance but Marketing is important. I love it, either way

[@sashidemedia]

Waiting on depreciation to get one. I love this style of car. Road trips, daily driver, track days! Size suits our American roads fine!

[@paulcalver8231]

I’ve had my M8 for four months and I do agree with lot you say… but I’ve never had car that get so much attention. Mine is stage one car with about 700 bhp and it’s just crazy fast and needed to change tires to ps4 as P zeros had go grip whatsoever.. it’s amazing car and I love it

[@reddragon1572]

If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about your warranty being void because of the modifications? It blows my mind when people do it on new cars and yours at into 6figures is another level. I do appreciate that there are people that can easily afford the repairs if things go wrong but a new engine in one of these must be mental money ect. Just curious thanks

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

How Much $

[@firathussein4136]

​@@reddragon1572 he is chatting absolute shit my friend. He does not have a M8 lol. Go on his page. He is a 12 year old with maybe a hot wheels version of the m8.

[@brelaxed13]

bruh. you are like 11 years old. must have saved up a ton of allowance money and convinced a state to give you a drivers license. adult tip: you don't need to be like that. be yourself and NEVER flex, even if you actually have something to flex. people who aren't morons pick up on that bs immediately and you will always be known as a tool

[@allenjs2976]

@@firathussein4136 Could just be his son? or something?

[@thierryroucourt]

maybe not the most positive review but one that i can understand, driving a m8 comp for a year now and must say there are pros and cons, looks, quality, performance... and the cons: price, depreciation, passion... But still a great car to live with, had some (fast) roadtrips across europe with it, this car loves going fast on the highway ! also a headturner when you pass by 🙂

[@timad260]

I have a 2022 coupe and i live in nyc and i daily it and it is very comfortable. I like this channel but i am not sure why joe is saying it has a bad ride quality?! I agree it depreciates very quickly but has a very good presence on the road and it is a great gt car This car rides better then an M4 and it looks better then and you can get a used one for the price of a new m4 As far as fun to drive i agree that isn't that fun but this is a luxury sports car at the end of the day and if you want a fun car get an M4 or porsche

[@aneebaba06]

Yeah I remember seeing so many 8 series on the lot at the Southern California dealership I used for several years for servicing. I'm not surprised they had trouble selling, even though their was the nostalgia factor and yes, it's got a sexy shape for sure.

[@rhysmainwaring396]

I shouldn’t but I really like that motor (apart from the price). I also prefer the iDrive 7, and joy of joys, real buttons for core functions!

[@dnice362]

Love this car. It looks fantastic, sounds even better. This and the M2 (current gen) are probably my favorite M cars. Idk if I can say the same about the new M2

[@cuprashoe]

Yeah same on the m2, not sure about the front grill

[@tim1king]

What a car! Unbelievable 0-60 time! Proper mile munching machine.... Great video buddy

[@santana9537]

Personally would go for the gran coupe. That does have a much better ride quality, test drove both the convertible and GT on PS4s’ a few weeks back. Ideal combo of the 911 GTS and Bentley gt if you’re looking for a really fast and luxurious gt car. A shit load of road presence too

[@ericstefko4852]

I really appreciate when a reviewer covers warts and all. Your honesty is appreciated

[@supay6537]

Not a negative review, just honest opinions and truthful to all of us. Great video 👍🏼

[@fallenstatus]

the value proposition of the m850i on the used market is pretty solid. You can pick one up for 70-85k cad and with a few simple mods you can reliably make more hp than the m8 comp. Granted, it would be more of a highway speed missile than a track weapon.

[@rodriguezahr]

Nothing is so menacingly beautiful like the 8.

[@CB-ft8zw]

The only reason to get the M850i instead of the M8 is a financial one. Both cars look great but the M8 exhausts make it more impressive when looking at the back. If people were offered either car for free I'm sure they'd all take the M8.

[@stephenlane9168]

Great review buddy as always. Detailed, insightful and entertaining 👌👏

[@MigElite1]

Fantastic, honest review. Really down to earth "chat in a pub" type discussion. For now I'll stick with my 640D and wait a few years for the 8 series to come down to normal money !

[@MrQuashu]

640d it's great car so I can't blame You 😁👌

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Why by a 6 series in diesel? You have a pretty and slow car… I don’t get it. Like if you’re worried about mpg why by that beautiful car and ruin it with a diesel? Get a 3 series touring and chill

[@MigElite1]

. Here in the UK, fuel is stupidly expensive for starters so MPG counts. Not least that the 640D is far from slow. Its very quick for a big car and the twin turbo engine can be tuned to over 400 BHP...not that I have.

[@neilmorris6719]

​@@MigElite1 very easily tuned have 435d gc with an intercooler and map, runs 11.9, crazy for a diesel and still retains great mpg

[@Adam-xe5xm]

@@LafemmebearMusic Its plenty fast enough for the real world lets be honest. It also is in another world with the interior quality than the 5 series and is much more suited to longer trips and a 3/4 series. Not everything is a 0-60 drag race. btw, the 40i is garbage. Ive driven it and the lack of torque is evident. Th 50i engine is a pile of crap as well, about as reliable as a paper straw.

[@mikediazArtist]

I’d definitely choose a nicely spec’d 911 over this. The M8 needs something to make it more special or desirable.

It looks better than a 911. It is also easy to buy for msrp or cheaper used unlike the 911.

[@matylandyscz8347]

I rode the GC once and I have never ever rode in something that got me excited more. We did 0-100 in 2.88 seconds in a family car and for me this car gave me biggest emotions and I have driven Pista, R35, tuned supra, 911 turbo and few more. The whole review depends on personal opinion

[@JoeAchilles1]

I had a GC for two weeks a few years ago, I drove it 3000 miles through France, Italy and Austria, it was a great car, nothing really special though, it lacked soul in the same way this coupe does.

[@matylandyscz8347]

@@JoeAchilles1 I wish man I’m in love with this car😩

[@andyyoung6700]

Great review Joe. I had an M8 comp gran coupe as my daily for two years so a little larger and more practical than the coupe but not quite as pretty. Agree with a lot of what you said, super quick but not that engaging. The Pirelli tyres got me in trouble a couple of times,just awful in the wet. I got £20k off the list price with the dealer contribution and lost about £1100 a month in depreciation. Not sure I agree with the m4c comparison, one-off the selling points for me having come from an m5c was exclusivity. I saw one other m8c GC in two years, you wouldn’t get that same exclusivity with the m4c although granted there’s quite some delta in the price

[@Kxvito]

What is "dealer contribution"? Is it just BMW dealerships trying to get the car sold so they give you discounts?

[@pjmalone-k2k]

Yeah

[@frankivory1391]

I have an F90 M5C and I was looking at switching over to the M8C GC, due to its exclusivity and presence it has on the street. I do l9ve my M5, but it just blends in with everything else, the 8 series as a while has a different look.

[@Kxvito]

@@frankivory1391 trust me people notice an M5

[@Warrengraff-ym2yj]

That spec is top notch the white interior is soo nice🎉

[@jimsteinway695]

I’ve had 6 BMWs and 7 911s, and my X5M was a pleasure to drive for a SAV. Porsche wouldn’t deal on a Cayenne S so I got the X5M for the same price. But all of my 911s have been flawless. I can’t say the same on my BMWs

[@enginepy]

Similar here. Had 5 Porsches (1 cayenne, 3. 911’s and a GT4) and two BMW’s. None really ever gave me any problems. Porsche is next level regarding reliability and customer service. Better than BMW for sure but also no real complaints about BMW. Our 2022 530e that my mom drives is just spectacular car and value. Looking at a used M8 GC to use as a daily to replace my DB9.

[@philedwards7174]

Totally agree with review. The 6 and now 8 series are very special cars. You have to own one to really appreciate how good they are. M8 however, not ever going to compete with 911. They are just too heavy to throw around. 840i, 840d are probably the best GT options, 850 would be the ultimate.

[@karlk.6819]

I'd like to see a comparative test among the m850i, SL 55 amg, 911 4s or 4 gts and the new granturismo trofeo (also awd). Also, too bad jaguar doesn't offer anything in this segment anymore

[@fordy6351]

Recently traded in my superb 840d Convertible in Dravit Grey for a new (and yes, heavily discounted M8 Convertible!!). I would have loved another 840d, but that is no longer an option. So in favour of an Xdrive option and no real chance of securing a build slot (and discount) for an M850i I opted for a brand new unregistered M8 with big discount. I chose another ‘8’ as I am struggling with the design/tech filtering on to all other BMW models. Less ‘drivers car’ and more ‘techie wet dream’. Can say that after 3000 miles I do enjoy driving something a bit rare and having many bad experiences with Porsche UK (a previous car) nothing would get me to leave the BMW brand except for one thing….BMW’s obsession with technology not driving!!! One thing I have noticed since M8 Competition ownership…….The reduction in a***holes hanging off my rear bumper, so thats a positive angle that was not covered in the review!!😜

[@schwagier]

What do youmean by big discount? 30%?

[@drmgbrown]

I have the '23 M850i Conv and I like it better than the full fat M8 due to the slightly smoother ride (and much lower price). It is still a bit rough for a grand touring coupe. It is big and heavy but surprisingly nimble for nearly 4800lbs. Real world performance is no different M850i vs M8. I cannot use the full performance of the M850i so nearly another 100bhp doesn't matter on the street and who would really take an M8 Conv to the track? Coupe maybe. My M850i came with the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 5 RF tires, which are surprisingly good for a RF. It is a daily driver, and I have snows on it now. Summers going back on soon. I have had several other BMWs over the years, including a couple of M3s (E90). That was much more of a hooligan car. Far less refined, but also less isolated and the S65 V8 is a very entertaining engine. I agree the new M4 Conv is a better driver than the 8 but I cannot get past the face. I just cannot. BMW has gone in a direction I cannot follow. The 8 series price is silly for what it is - but I really enjoy mine. I like the V8 rumble. I like the specialness. It is the prettiest BMW out there now (which is admittedly not a really high bar). No surprise it is going out of production in 2025 and is not going to be replaced. The 8 series is going away (again). Not sure what my next car will be.... I agree, the P-Zero is nowhere near as good a the Pilot 4S. I had both on my Jag F-Type R and the Pilot 4S was a night and day difference over the P-Zero. Neither should be driven in the cold but the P-Zero is useless below 45 deg F (7 deg C). PS4 gives better ride, less twitchy, better grip (in dry and wet). I will be switching to it when I replace the Goodyears in the M850i. And I am NOT a brand ambassador for Michelin. But if Michelin wants to talk....... Excellent review, as always. Nicely done Joe.

[@arster2935]

You are spot on about the discounts an low sales of these.. I was in the market for one few months ago. The dealership had it 155k msrp but was willing to give me major a discount to about 135k . 20 k off the original sticker.

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Unbelievable that this M8 Competition did 0-60 mph in 2.78 seconds. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS for a car that is that heavy. It punches well above its weight, and that is just a ballistic machine. BMW really does know how to build fast cars.

[@Billywoo12]

Alpina and the 8 Series are a match made in heaven. The M treatment just detracts from GT requirements. 😮

[@walidzein1]

I wish BMW can make a real hypercar one day, a car that has a chassis made completely from carbon composite

[@TheFakePseudonym]

Great review Joe, although I have to say I’m slight saddened as I had been looking at these for quite some time to replace my F82 M4. I always loved the idea of it being a bargain Conti GT and the used prices on these had really been catching my eye. I would never have expected it to compete with the M4 dynamically (although in reality a big V8 and soft suspension would suit most of my real world driving to a tee), but sadly it sounds like it doesn’t perform the GT role well at all. The fact that it was such a mild update, makes me think they are bailing on this generation and we will see an all electric flagship i8 in the not too distant future.

[@MarkHelvadjian]

You should get one, I have a Bmw M8 and LOVE IT! No regrets it's smooth it's fast it's comfortable, just need to have the correct tires on for winter and summer , I ordered an M4 when it came in it was nothing like my M8 NOTHING! I love the interior I love the exterior and love the way it drives, I've owned many Bmw's M3 comp, M2 Comp, M550 , the M8 is perfect

[@DavidWilliams-zn2nc]

I had a 2021 m850i, great gt car, thirsty but very comfortable, just didn’t blow my skirt up 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nuno22gp]

Go test-drive it yourself - the M8 Competition Coupe is a superb motor-car - everyone's point of reference and opinion differs from the next, and it may just be the perfect car for YOU.

[@DavidWilliams-zn2nc]

@@nuno22gp good shout! 👍

[@v12-s65]

a bargain gt would be an S63 coupe not an M8 without massaging seats

[@scottleech9571]

I dont know why you dont have 500k + subs .. way better channel than others with 2 or 3 x the subs, clear enthusiasm for what you do

[@markdschedler]

Very knowledgeable. I really appreciate your willingness to say what you don’t like and what a better alternative in the BMW line might be.

[@adamfrost9048]

I think the F87 M2 CS looks as good or better on the outside, and from the sound of it is way more fun to drive on public roads. The CS doesn't have the engine note or some of the interior luxury touches, but it's also less money and has a back seat that fits adults without issue.

[@JoeAchilles1]

I did say potentially best BMW on sale today, the F87 CS is long gone.

[@adamfrost9048]

@@JoeAchilles1 For sure, understood. In the US for whatever reason it's pretty easy to pick up a used F87 CS with very few miles for decent prices, and they are still in the factory warranty period. The last M2 CS on BaT sold for $82,500 with 4,700 miles, blue with less miles sold for $86,500.

[@kaym7549]

M2CS looked good but this M8 has to be the best! M2CS can never turn heads as much as this car! M8 is loved by all ages. But for sure the M2CS will always be the favourite child in the family

[@gedwardjones]

I picked an M850 one the M4 based almost purely on the fact that the M4 is horrifically ugly to my eyes. Also, the noises the V8 8s make, sooo good.

[@CM.243]

Late to this.... Was speaking with a friend about his M3 Touring and my M340i Touring and we both agreed that while they were great cars, they weren't that much fin to drive. Far too good at what they do, that they take away involvement. For his fun, he goes out in his old M2. Me, well, I wonder about my old Golf 7.5R. Not as good a car as the BMW, but I think I found it more fun to drive.

[@RevTiberius]

Finally a review that rightfully points out that the main competitor to this car is the BMW M4. The main problem of this car is that it's way overpriced, and it doesn't offer any benefit over the M4, other than being the more expensive car (which to some buyers seems to be a selling point...).

[@conormcgregor-rj5dk]

is the m4 faster?

[@chelseagodfather]

@@conormcgregor-rj5dkwith mods, the M4 can easily make 700hp to around 1,000Hp at a much less overall cost than the M8 and it handles better. That is why the M4 is a very popular BMW model.

[@lucwijngaard8413]

The looks of this car are out of this world

[@kammy205]

Had an 840d as a courtesy car for a week and loved it! Was a total downer getting my 1 seres back 😅

[@MrLoose26]

the m8 gran coupe makes more sense , at least you have 4 real seats

[@pjmalone-k2k]

I was thinking of changing to an M8 Comp Gran from a 2018 640d. After seeing this I’m not sure. My current car may not be as fast but it looks great and has plenty of power when needed

[@craigm3253]

Plenty of other reviews out there to convince you otherwise.

[@-Diceman]

This car is significantly better than the M4/M3 and M2… sure it’s more costly but it crushes their performance stats and it is much more luxurious. Hard to compare them to the M8 when they’re worse and the M8 is much more than just a performance car.

[@mccobr]

I have an 2020 M8 convertible with ultimate pack - 911 was never an option for me, think its the wrong comparison personally. I wanted a GT (the 911 just isn’t) and like the bottomless performance; and it’s much more dynamic than some in the comments (that may not have driven one) suggest. Also never had an issue with ride quality; it’s DEFINITELY a GT car, in the UK and driving through Ireland and France. Mine is on Michelins though…

[@timad260]

Same here I now have a 2022 coupe in nyc that i daily and it is very comfortable I had a 2020 convertible that i leased for 3 years, and i can say both were super comfy on NYC roads and behave like real GT cars I like Joe's reviews, but i dont think he is right regarding this one Also, when it is cold, those summer tires become hard like a stone and will change the car comfort level

[@DamoDrives]

Not driven the M8 but when I reviewed the m850 went to a golf course and felt right at home (golf clubs and a golf caddy fitted in the boot) I felt the interior was a big step up from the 3&4 series as well and it did feel like a very special place behind the wheel. It is a massive car though and I’m sure it cannot be much smaller than a 7 series but will virtually no rear passenger room. For looks, interior and engine it is brilliant but would like to drive the new M3/M4.

[@arster2935]

It’s actually not even close to 7 series in size.. it’s quite smaller when you see it in person. Not that big of a car

[@ashleymoore9063]

As a second hand purchase it's miles ahead of the Porsche. Especially a 850 I or an 840d . It's a GT not a sports car so the 850 is way better as a car and way cheaper . It's not a Porsche competitor it's so much more and the 850 GC is the better option.great review as always from JA .

[@ArabianOak]

have this exact car and I paid 110k with 2000 miles on the it. They are insane values at that point considering they run 10.5 bone stock. the car is the best of both worlds, sport and luxury. i came from an e63 amg and the bmw is half a second faster and traps 6mph faster in the 1/4 mile. hard to beat.

[@uzyoc]

I am in love with this car. Time to place my order!!!

[@jlsc4125]

BMW did it right. Instead of going to those big tv screen center consoles that require you to take your eyes off the road to do ANYTHING, they kept it to a small screen mounted at dash level and tactile buttons that you can use without taking your eyes off the road, which IS the drivers job, watch the road, not play with a tv screen.

[@okeyezeilo6187]

Beautiful car, great performance. The only fly in the ointment is the uninspiring exhaust note...

[@lorislukic5016]

Im currently deciding on either this or the 911 gts for my daily Seeing as I could get a hell lot of more space on the Grand coupe I think I will choose the M8 I do have a 2020 Golf 7.5 R in case I dont want to fire up that V8 cause i dont want to drive it 200m to the shop and back so I think the M8 would be the smarter choice

[@jonatkinson1971]

Had one as a loaner when my i8 broke. Incredible performance but a bit of a barge. Did think about getting one to replace the i8 but settled on a G82 xdrive.

[@shanebagnall1979]

Great honest and insightful review. Beautiful traditional BMW aesthetics ……but extremely overpriced, redundant rear seat space, and completely muffled exhaust note from the exquisite V8. Compare this to the sound of the M5 Competition, and you will hear what I’m talking about. Joe, your 100% correct about the M4 Comp being the better choice (apart from the ugly Beaver Grill, which you eluded too) I would certainly take a Mercedes C63 V8 Coupe (previous generation) over this M8 every day of the week!

[@casperkulsethjrgensen7150]

M8 is way better than m4

[@karolygellert7126]

Now I'm confused. My local dealer offers me an M8 comp with 2500 miles on the clock for 125.000€. Based on the review I shouldn't get it but the price is sooo good. 😅

[@ShaunRoberts1]

Top work Joe, love how you tell it like you see it and not follow the company line 👍

[@macaron3141592653]

GOD this thing looks SO good. I really hope they don't make it hideous in the next generation.

[@kdm_entertainment]

That M8 is the same price as the M3 Touring is in Norway..

[@christennant8143]

Bmw have struggled with this category of car. When I was selling BMW the last generation of 6 series had a similarly hefty price tag and we sold very few of them until BMW ran a “campaign” which saw nearly £19000 slashed off the price which priced a 640d MSport at £3000 deposit and £500 per month on PCP, then they sold like hot cakes. Seems like they haven’t learned for they lesson 10 years ago.

[@Adam-xe5xm]

They are already available for significant discounts. I remember when i bought my 640d near the end of production they were practically giving them away vs list. They are fantastic cars, just money at list price. Fantastic propositions 2-3 years old or with a nice dealer discount tho.

[@FreshlySnipes]

Nothing better looking than a Blue M-Car 😎

[@Lukec4ge]

Interesting review. It’s a shame that BMW can’t find that sweet spot of ride/comfort, and handling as they did in the M5 CS. Surely it can’t be that hard to configure? Also, you mentioned that the M8 has rear seats that fold down- is this new? In your original comparison with your M2 competition, this wasn’t the case.

[@roryblackmore2328]

I think the main issue is that its the M8 Comp. version like with the X5M Comp with both vehicles BMW turned the aggression on the suspension too much to where it hinders its comfort. for a SUV or a GT car. I think it would be better to just get the M850 version or just the plain M8, same with the X5.

[@codyc9784]

I own this car Joe and I absolutely love it!! I will be adding an M4 too! I love the BMW’S!! New 24 X5 M competition ordered too!!

[@vanessalele3953]

Proper bimmerguy 🚀

[@devonte41]

Like your reviews except for tire bias. I love pzeros on G80 and prefer stiffer sidewall. Hated my michelin 4S sidewall and steering feel. Everything else the tire was excellent. One is not better than the other. Just different. Glad we have choices instead of continuously making bad comments about a brand you don't like.

[@djenson]

I also hated p-zeros. Fast wear, low traction and comfort when not in perfect conditions. He is allowed to voice his opinion.

[@Commonsense4Life]

Good Lord! BMW is going for the jugular! How in the world does a big car like that pull off that kind of quickness and speed with less than 700hp? How? 😳

[@Account1746]

Gran touring one is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@chronologicist]

The days of the large coupe seem to be pretty much numbered, certainly for the likes of BMW and Mercedes who depend on relatively large production volumes to make them viable. If the tyres are so important as Joe suggests, its a bit of a shame that the supplying dealer wasn't able to offer a set of Michelin's to help establish how much of the reported problems are down to the P Zero's and how much the chasis, etc.

[@revlucm7301]

Looking back, i was so lucky to order my M4 comp before the prices went crazy…i waited a long time…although they are become more available on the used market now, with discount i paid 82k for a fully loaded (excl the seats)…i remember looking at getting an M8 a few years ago but was told it will lose a lot of money so held tight…160k for a new one is crazy money…they will only sell them to company car owners..

[@kenai4487]

the interior looks amazing

[@Island1-b5h]

Is that a Vancouver Canucks jersey on your avatar pic?

[@enginepy]

It seems a lot of people are expecting the agility and feel of a 911 or even M4 in a car that isn’t supposed to be that. It’s a large, heavy GT car. Can’t have grand tourer comfort and 911 performance and agility. It does it’s job well.

[@Dwayne3007]

Such a beautiful car. But I prefer the Gran Coupe variant.

[@rykehuss3435]

If you got the money for this car, I'm sure you can get suspension on it that suits your needs. Ride too hard? get plushier suspension installed. What youre buying is the engine and the chassis, pretty much all else is customizable anyway.

[@faz8055]

Love the video Joe, but even as a die hard BMW fan you would have to be insane to spend over £160k on a Bmw and not go for a Porsche etc at this price point surely!

[@rollydoucet8909]

The 4.4 litre engines have a bad reputation for oil burning, and connecting rod bearing wear, mostly due, I'm sure, to the heat coming from the turbos causing the valve stem seals to dry up. Has BMW addressed this issue in this, the latest 4.4 litre?

[@deryal4526]

The m8 has the newer version if the s63 . Old issues sorted

[@oldcrook510]

Reminds me of a Mustang. They'll never top the looks of the 850 models from the 1990's.

[@stefanmolnar4345]

Actually not disapointing at all. Its super fast its the best looking sporty gt on the market. You are guys to spiled. And price depends on land where is sold. Porsche 911 turbo s central eu price 240000 euros this is 190000. Its a masterpiece

[@JoeAchilles1]

With a horrendous ride? A GT car needs to be comfortable, this isn't.

[@timad260]

​@Joe Achilles I have a 2022 coupe and had a 2020 conv and i daily both in nyc and they are both very comfortable I am not sure about the 2023 but i assume they have the same suspension

[@stefanmolnar4345]

@@JoeAchilles1 JOE with all respect i love your content, and do not know what kind of roads you have in UK but i do not agree its not bad at all and we in central eu do not get the smothest roads either. Its not audi rs level of comfort but to be honest an M car is not about that.

[@mickcundall4036]

Great video. Very enjoyable. The M8 is just glorious. Really like it

[@geraint8989]

Another great vid. If you could get your hands on an Alpina B8 I would be interested in your views.

[@MrSmellGoodt]

Great review. I unfortunately think BMW is going to discontinue the 8 series. That’s why they gave it such minor upgrades and no idrive8

[@kaym7549]

They let themselves down on this car though. The only thing special about it is the exterior look and its m8 name. Interior is at the same level as a 5 series, mechanics pretty much the same. BMW should have went more extreme on this car! Make it feel like a super car that also comes with luxury! As a flagship should

[@neddy781]

The car looks so good. That interior would be so difficult to keep clean in my opinion.

[@pjmoody]

Fantastic Review Joe. We don't see a lot of the 2 or 4 door 8 series in Australia. Thanks for sharing

[@DavidC1]

Can you do another video with Jon from Forensic Detailing?

[@rare6499]

It’s a good looking car, I just don’t think it looks special enough for the money especially inside. Performance is impressive, but when you spend this kind of money you really need it to be very special IMO. 160k is insane money.

[@rorierobinson4408]

Only clicked and like on this video because of Joe. The car is far 2 big, heavy and expensive.

[@Chris-yg3nj]

This model lineup drops like a stone, no wonder nobody with their thinking cap on will buy one new. It's a gorgeous car unfortunately a bit lost in the market.

[@PQV-8898]

Why even bother talking about depreciation? It's almost like you were single out the M8 Comp. I gotta break this news to you. ALL cars depreciate. The more expensive they are the more they depreciate. Nothing new.

[@louisalonso1695]

Hundred Percent

[@MontyStreet]

Are some of the roads the same as Harry’s Garage ? Nice test route!

[@thefamilyrobbo]

At least we now understand Pirelli's nomenclature: PZero equals zero grip 😀 Unless you're on a warm smooth track

[@danieldebono7116]

I thought at the start of the video he was going to call out the elements of the facelift that constitute BMW calling this a new car? From what I can see it's a larger screen and very slight revisions to the headlights and rear lights.

[@pjmalone-k2k]

Great review Joe. Would you ever consider reviewing some modern classic BMWs?

[@vantheman1238]

Saw a brand new M5 with Michelin tyres in the Dick Lovett showroom the other day.

[@lm68lancashire60]

Great review. Did I notice some “Harry Metcalfe” driving roads? Keep up the good work.

[@PlayafromtheHimalayas]

I bought a 22 M850 for two main reasons: 1 Looks and 2 that V8. My decision was easy as there were no M8s anywhere and the M3/4 grille is beyond hideous. Everyone is allowed their opinion, but where I'm baffled by the reviewer is bringing up a civic while driving this is ridiculous. Like some synapsis misfiring, brain damage, mental disorder type of sht. Lost me completely after that.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Good for you, you sound like a lovely chap! Enjoy your V8 powered canal boat 🚢

[@PlayafromtheHimalayas]

@@JoeAchilles1 Lol. I do enjoy it quite well, thank you. I'm sorry you took this personal, but maybe you should seek medical consultation as you might have a fact allergy.

[@stewartmclean625]

The issue with used car prices especially from any BMW outlet is the high rate of interest, I’m guessing 90% of private buyers finance on a PCP, between 10.9-12.9% is just pushes it a bit too far to make sense

[@johnguidetti5839]

Cheaper to finance a new car rather than a used one.

[@stewartmclean625]

@@johnguidetti5839 yer but new car prices are getting silly, the world we live in I guess 📈

[@Bmw-Hk]

Depends on your credit score, credit history… I’ve git finance through BMW with 6.9 on a used M850i with only 9500 miles

[@zelikovalex]

To my eyes, the 8 series looks like it was cribbed off the Ford Mustang. Also, the M850 seems like the sweet spot in the range - tons of power and, when you want it, a more relaxed drive.

[@jeffsmith9651]

Great video. Damn that looks like a mustang gt350 right there 0:22

[@ejr5480]

A Honda civic is more fun to drive than a M8!!?? WTF? In what universe?

[@Bmw-Hk]

And I have a honda generator…😜 also M850i

[@MrQuashu]

I took diesel and I'm proud of it as it simply have more sense, and I can bet that diesel will come back and take the crown back as simply it's more efficient!

[@The_Stanman]

I'm not sure why they thought raising price made sense when the market already suggested it was overpriced. Will just require more dealer discounts.

[@owenmcdonald5922]

Someday you and Harry will be pushing cars through that S bend at the same time.