PLEASE Do Not Build Your Fence This Way! - Fence Pro Reacts

[@chidote1howtodo]

I finished my basement following Jeff's methods and my homebuilder brother told me my level of quality was better than what his contractors use. I can't speak to his fence building prowess but his construction methods for basement finishing saved me tens of thousands and it is top notch.

[@Nicball505]

I have worked in construction for 25 years and every video I stumbled upon of his is terrible advice. It may be that people in your area just have a really low standard for quality.

[@blanketstarry7725]

@@Nicball505 I've been in construction for 30 years, and I've stumbled across your work in your area, and I wasn't impressed with your quality.

[@Nicball505]

@@blanketstarry7725 😂 that is a lame ass comeback.

[@blanketstarry7725]

@@Nicball505 It wasn't a comeback. Just because I am anonymous, you think I am not credible? What's your deal?

[@Nicball505]

@@blanketstarry7725 I couldn’t care less what you think. I’m the best there is, was, or ever will be at what I do. All I know is if you think that fool in the video that’s being reviewed knows what he’s talking about, then you definitely don’t know the difference between crap and true craftsmanship.

[@syrionus]

Followed his guidance for years and never had any issues with his instructions.

[@thomasshannon2876]

I attended a 2 year residential remodeling program where you graduate with an associate's degree. Our first year carpentry instructor (who was very talented... and demanding) described what he called a "quality triangle", where one edge was "good", another was "fast/easy", and another was "cheap". He drilled into us that you can only achieve two of those edges, not all three.

[@grpAfactory]

This applies to so many things, like building cars!

[@rosehill9537]

Thanks for sharing this.

[@anthonyc5003]

It's songs like you have a problem with him not just the work

[@thomasshannon2876]

@@anthonyc5003 Actually, I am a subscriber and fan of Renovision. However, there are occasions where Jeff's choices appear to be sub-optimal to me. I think he would have had a better result with using concrete for the posts as opposed to the foam product. This is a case where the fast/easy triangle vertex did not serve him as well.

[@kayh476]

Is carpentry hard I’m thinking about going to community college for it

[@danielobryan8855]

So it’s funny watching this bc I did some of these exact same things, except I used a tape measure and concrete where my post don’t move when they are sneezed on. I did 500ft of privacy around my yard two years ago and only wish I had found your channel along with SWI and Mr. Fence prior to doing it. I almost hate looking at mine but I’m stuck with it….love all the info you give us!!

[@Gubers]

To be fair, if you’re DIY all the crap that home renovision covers, his advice is usually pretty solid and understandable for the average Joe that is DIYing a job. Also worth noting that even if you hire a “professional”, half the time they suck. So you really have to dig (no pun intended) to find a contractor that is going to correctly build you a solid fence. I love the Home renovision channel and find a ton of useful info in it. But I also understand that his methods are “good enough” and not necessarily best practice. As long as you understand that, it’s a fantastic resource if you need a starting point for DIY projects you otherwise know little or nothing about.

[@ericr154]

With certain things "good enough" is unacceptable. Fencing is one such thing. Better yo spend the money or the time researching the *correct* way of doing something to make sure it lasts. That whack job just hands out misinformation and shotty practices, and people follow his advice. That's not cool. A fence like what he glbuilt is going to look like crap and it won't last more than 5-10 years. Charging someone for that kind of work is slimy af and doing it for yourself is pathetic. I understand some people just want a fence that will last at least a year because they're selling or whatever, but that is also equally slimy.

[@robertaylor9218]

@@ericr154literally every trade says theirs is the one where “good enough” is unacceptable. They also all have a point. As most people cannot afford to have the best professionals do literally all the work on their home, being able to do minor repairs and improvements to “good enough” is a very valuable skill. Though one should try to understand the work one is doing well enough to know how you will be paying later for your shortcuts and learning curve. Specifically what it will cost you in effort, inconvenience, cash, or durability.

[@stevensko9153]

His drywall videos are terrible

[@neverontime]

I started to question some of the stuff his channel recommend and decided to see if anyone had a critique video on him. That's how I found your channel previously. Thank you for what you do.

[@JoeEverest]

Very welcome, appreciate you watching!

[@hochhaul]

He's great at some things, not great at other things. I used his videos on building bulkheads and finishing basements and the results were fantastic. His tips on drywall work were also really good. Clearly his fence is meant for DIYers that are NEVER going to pay $10k for a pro-built privacy fence. They're watching his fence building video because they are trying to do it themselves to save money, even if they know the results will be poor and they don't save money in the long run.

[@mathehack1]

I just remember seeing Jeff in a short video plugging a product for sweeping up drywall dust and every comment being along the lines of "shop vacs exist." 😂

[@ilyagolovey5248]

Yes they exist, but you will be unclogging that filter 5 times before you finish the job. And you might as well throw the filter away after.

[@theone3337]

This put a smile on my face. I used to be subscribed to that Jeff guy till one day he was doing duct (ventilation) work and a pro told him he was doing something wrong and it made a lot of sense. The guy was saying to put the male vent pipe towards air flow and the female against the air flow like that you get less potential for air leak. Instead of accepting his mistake and thanking the guy for info, this Jeff guy told him off, I unsuscribed on the spot. Haven’t watched any of his videos since lol. Keep up the great work.

[@JoeEverest]

Sounds like a very Jeff move, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@andrewcarr2431]

yeah, just did a load of ductwork in my new house and it made sense to me that way (thought of water rather than air) so having no edges to "catch" would improve air flow. rarely touched metal work since I left school but being a technical guy in a technical trade, I read a book on the subject first. There are Social media people who are educating and others who use it as a source of income. many "trade people" start out as the former and end up as the latter. Not to say there is no information to be gained, even if it is bad information.

[@theone3337]

@@andrewcarr2431 💯

[@ss5gogetunks]

Thats one of the first things you learn in sheet metal school after how to use tin snips lol

[@stoptellingmewhattowrite]

Can yoy elaborate? Male part as in it fitting inside the larger female duct? If the air is moving towards the "male" interior edge part it would create a high pressure zone in the joint and cause more turbulence/non-laminar flow... you sure your didn't mean the opposite? Can you please post video link what he did?

[@isackhernandez3691]

Have you review 4x4 fence post anchor spike that is hammered into the dirt.

[@dsulli7383]

As a home owner, on 40 acres. I make sure to do everything as good or better than the pros. The thing I can’t understand is why do people make “how to” videos about any subject if they have no clue what they are doing.

[@AncoraImparoPiper]

They are doing it because they truly believe they know how it's done. That's why I watch many how to videos and do more research to ensure I know the correct way before I follow a particular approach. Don't just look at the first video that comes up with a particular solution to the problem.

[@BugJuiceFlavor]

Anyone can make a how to video, unfortunately it doesn't mean they're doing the activity correctly. I'd follow a dedicated fence pro on how to build a fence.

[@jimmyyounger618]

Likewise, I'm a homeowner on a small farm and the reason I'm a Do-It-Yourselfer is because of too many past disappointments. People either never show, delay you by months or even years, (the best contractors are usually booked up for many months), or too many do crap work with low-quality materials and disappear. The last thing I hired done was concrete flat work. It wasn't horrible, but had I been home I'd have noticed there was no expansion joint between new work and existing work. As I predicted, the outside driveway chipped out the edge of the garage floor from frost heaving for lack of an expansion joint. I think we could find dozens and dozens of how-to videos showing new concrete work meeting existing work without expansion joints. I feel bad for people who aren't discerning or have too much confidence that projects done on KZbin were done well. Too often something catches my eye and I soon realize the quality of information on the subject is simply wrong, even if it's something as simple as nesting boxes in a backyard coop.

[@Board.Dad.Woodworking]

I feel like this guy says "work smarter, not harder" a lot. Not measuring isn't smarter, it's just lazier. If you're spending the hours (or days) it takes to build a fence, why are you trying so hard to save 10 minutes. Realistically, it would probably take me less than 10 seconds per post to measure 6 inches down and make a mark. It would take me 10 seconds to measure 8 feet BEFORE I spend 10 minutes digging a post hole. Yes, it would take me a little longer to cut a mitered end on a stretcher, but i would probably make that time back with how much easier it would be to hang my pickets. And i wouldn't have to worry as much about my dogs getting out under the fence or, similarly, unwanted visitors getting in. Plus if I sold my house, i wouldn't have the buyers putting "a new fence" as a contingency after they saw the hobbled together mess i made after watching that video.

[@JoeEverest]

All great points, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@alisonburgess345]

Hi Joe - love your videos! i've got to make a block with two holes for the gate pins to drop into at the bottom! Any advice? Have you done a video about making one of these?

[@andrewsusen3154]

Genuine question, Joe. When installing the horizontal pieces for a follow the terrian fence, what is your method for determining the angle of cut at the post. That way the 2x4 are butted up.

[@shanefox6016]

I’ve never seen a professional be so kind with constructive criticism! This guy’s recommendations are absolutely ludicrous lol. You are a good dude and so respectful with your critique God bless you

[@txreal2]

I watched some of Jeff’s videos on various home improvement projects and I had doubts about his methods & quit watching him.

[@CP-nf9my]

Having critique is great. Love Jeff, but sometimes I'm not sure what he's doing is the best idea. So, doing my research and watching various videos on the subject is a good idea and a critique even better, and hiring an inspector when I can is best. I've always been a DIYer, especially after 2020 when finding good contractors is like finding a needle in a haystack and prices have gone through the roof. Learning is learning. Thanks for the video.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

Amen, the best way to learn is to watch many different videos. You learn to pick up on common themes and start to pick out the outliers. You can then decide if the outliers are BS or if there's a legit reasoning behind it.

[@bradleyr4451]

I wanted to find ways to pre attach the slats onto the 2x4. Joe can you advise? My idea is in this very uneven fence area with several large trees on the property line, I have to use chemicals now to do ground clearing. 20 years of overgrowth on this yard, and in the midwest? its disgusting. The other fence it took 4 days of chopping the vines on the ground and Maple type sprouts/shooters growing all around to walk to build a fence. The other fence is worse, its mushy ground, need a landscaper to clear it fir$$$t. The idea is to dig extra large holes, fill with concrete and then put a 3" pipe piece in there that stands just about a foot or less out of the ground. then build sections of fence perhaps in 5 foot and 8 foot lengths. Into the 3" pipe on the ground insert a 2.5"? pipe thats long enough to go into that pipe and stand 6-7 ft above ground. the fence sections can be set next to that and mark where a plate should be attached on the fence to attach to the pole. each section connects to the next one with large hinges. when set the fence pieces are all connected. the base 3" piece and the inserted pipe piece would have a hole so a locking pin can be inserted. the tops of these pipes can have something put there like a light if someone has done this and has a video Id like to see it thanks

[@Bapuji42]

What are tubafores?

[@trope5105]

the fence on my parents lot that they bought next door to their house, has got to be close to 100 years old! the house was built in 1908 that we demolished, and ide be very surprised if the fence wasnt original. its only a 4 foot fence, but its def old AF. i donno if its cedar off hand, but ya, its old, looks old, but is still sturdy and doing well.

[@headcas620]

why would you demolish a 1908 house? 😡

[@trope5105]

@@headcas620 cause no one has lived in it for 40 years and it was totally ran down, not to Mentone old homes like that are shit, there was newspapers for insulation, it wasn't worth saving

[@CaliGhost]

More than likely redwood, that stuff lasts forever and was common back in that era for building material

[@trope5105]

@@CaliGhost mmmm, i donno, im in wyoming, we dont have any redwood anywhere close to here, but i have no idea how the dispersion of redwood was back in the turn of the 20th century, so obviously its possible. im sure it was along those lines if anything. the fence wasnt primo condition, obviously, but it was in tatters, it was just a little leaning to the side, and pretty much weathered black an grey. now that im done writing a stupid mini novel, im sure youre right lol. either way, ive had an unhealthy level of fascination with fences lately, and i dont know why, i have a chain link fence

[@CaliGhost]

@@trope5105 railroad tracks

[@LarryB-inFL]

Glad you are examining this. Yeah, a LOT of misstatements here. I'm a DIYer who has just installed posts for a panel fence, and I cannot understand the statement that "it takes an insane amount of time" to get the posts exactly 8' on center. Really? For each post, I carefully screwed an 8' furring strip on the edge of the previous post and it provided an exact distance to the edge of the next post...which (as you commented) did NOT need to be braced, as I was using Quikset concrete...it only had to be set in place on the gravel bed and then leveled and filled and held in place for a couple of minutes (like his 3 minute foam was supposed to be). Sorry to say, but as a lifelong DIYer, I have shuddered at more than one of this guys videos.

[@mikec7373]

So glad someone is calling out Jeff for what he is - a hack. He markets himself like he's highly qualified professional but anyone who knows a thing or two about construction can see he's faking til he makes it. It's as if he watches a few youtube videos and tackles a project for first time. He's really no better than any total beginner. It pains me that he has made a career of giving bad information while truly competent people are actually out there with their hands dirty. Thanks again Joe, wish you got the views he does, you actually deserve it

[@dj_deewayne10]

How do you feel about using OZ-Post spike to install fence post?

[@JoeEverest]

We’ve only used them once and it was a very great experience

[@JCLawn51]

I used it for a rotted off mailbox post. Was a quick and easy solution. My biggest concern is that if you don't seal off around the post, water will drip down into the end of the post and rot it from the bottom up.

[@dj_deewayne10]

I installed them and so far they have sustained a few days of wind gusts of up to 35 mph so far so good.. I used waterproofing stain before setting the post and then caulked around the base to help prevent water from running down into the post

[@tastyfishsauce4410]

DIY my fence and I can personnaly attest to the fact that "foam fence post mix" do work. But the one with the concrete is significantly stronger in my opinion. The concrete has less movement after 1 week, and after 2 years, now 7 years later and still more noticeably feels stronger. Out of 8 fence post installed, the first 5 with concrete is rock solid compared to the foam. I still ocationally push on it once in a while to see if my opinion would change. The slight give on the foam is notieable still. All are 8' treated 4x4 post, buried 3' deep withthe top post on a string line, everything was installed identically with the foam being the only difference.

[@randomvideosfilmcollection3161]

Wind took 2 down here that I know of this year. Mine 1 lol

[@strungoutkid]

If there is a deviation of ground between two posts, should you just dig out the ground or fallow the ground even though the 2x4's going across are straight?

[@frontrockfences]

Did you see how much the post moved when he marked the placement for the 2x4 😂

[@bigoxforexx3054]

Nothing wrong with stepping. I prefer the step look in most cases as long as they are not big steps. I like the level lines look.

[@kamac1980]

Agreed. As long as you have a few panels at the same level and step sections of 2-4 panels at a time. I prefer that look. But hey, all personal preference there. I do agree with the other commentary! Measure twice cut once.

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

The funny thing is that he's talking about how much he's saving by using the bracing to build the fence later. He used $25 of foam per post and still claims he's saving money by using the 2x4s

[@wrenchboostboi8994]

I dont use foam at all, and only use concrete where a gate will hang. I sink my posts 4 feet down and never had an issue. Concrete on every post is only necessary in dry rocky, sandy or clay soil. Most yards I’ve worked in are a good mix of rocky earth. No issues and easy to fix later in time. I roll Everything with the terrain and set posts 8’ centre.

[@Duke93720]

Its a miracle Jeff didnt place a strike against you for criticizing him.

[@superdeleon]

Joe is the man!!!

[@JoeEverest]

Appreciate you watching!

[@moolacue]

The post moved when he marked it with a pencil...lol

[@paulkinder6053]

One of the reasons I enjoy the videos is that sometimes the way to know how to do something correctly is to also look at how it’s done incorrectly.

[@CashTheRealest]

I’ve been in trades all my life. I’ve seen a handful of guys that don’t need a tape measure. Even they still use hand or forearm for reference measurements

[@30cal760]

What would you recommend for setting post in sandy soil and high winds

[@user-cq6km9vq2m]

Go deeper in setting your posts, and set them in concrete You want that weight as ballast the higher the fence the deeper the post depth.

[@ApexSpearfishing]

i built a new fence at my house, and really wish I recorded my process. I'd find it interesting to get your honest perspective (outside the double wide gate, which i'll say is at least functional haha) great video! -Tuning in from St. Pete Florida. awesome jersey in the background. Go Bolts!

[@unikornkontroller]

While researching how to build a shed I found Jeff's original shed build videos. At first I thought he did a good job but as I built mine I realized he could've taken a bit more care in how he assembled his. I don't think it was horrible advice but I ended up coming across much better videos as I researched.

[@dudewheresmyhorse625]

Hi Joe, I've been searching and haven't had much luck looking for the answer I'm looking for. We have done some fencing on our property and not happy with all of it.. :) We have used 5"-6" round treated posts with treated 4 1/4" half round rails. What is the best way to top the posts? Is there a jig out there? What do the pros use? Do they treat the tops after making their cuts?

[@Grinch83]

It moved a bit but OK. As long as the wind only moves in 1 direction I LOVE THIS CHANNEL'S REVIEWS

[@charliepermenter2729]

Joe I love that you tear this stuff apart. Bet this fence has already failed.

[@JoeEverest]

I can’t imagine what that fence will look like after a couple seasons!

[@naiboz]

You need a roasting Jeff playlist 😂

[@greenearthblueskies8556]

Beware, Jeff is highly emotional

[@monkeyman8265]

He’s so good he doesn’t need the tape measure. He taught me how to build a house this way.

[@Chris-717]

Wow! Just him marking the post (7:30) showed how well it was in the ground. See that thing wobble? Living in Florida, no way would that hold up to even a Tropical Storm.

[@wardraven8755]

So im going to be redoing my fence soon. Do you have any videos on the correct way to build a fence? I will be building it because it’s cheaper then the premade fence panels.

[@newsview7844]

Just went through the process myself with a handyman's help. (Wanted to learn all I can to spot mistakes should they happen.) The following is a summary. Consider buying a book on how to install a fence because as the other comments here reflect the quality of how-to advice you can get on KZbin ranges from excellent to flat-out wrong. 1) Learn how to use a string line after deciding on the style (stair-stepped vs. racked if the ground isn't level). 2) Do the rise over run calculation if the ground isn't level. (Build from high side to the low side.) 3) Stain the wood before you build the fence. 4) Use stakes to mark out your fence post locations. This is generally 8' apart for level ground, but as close as 4-6' apart if you're building on a hillside. (Another consideration is what spacing will divide evenly between opposing ends.) 5) Consider galvanized steel posts if you don't want to deal with eventual wood rot. 6) Use a species of wood that resists pests and is less likely to buckle over time (i.e. redwood). 7) Face the nice side of the fence toward your neighbors (laws vary but in many places this is the law.) 8) Space your rail about 6" from the bottom, 6" from the top and center the third one in between, if present. 9) Use pressure-treated rails and wood posts (if you cut the ends, apply the Copper sulfate or Copper Naphthenate treatment. Make sure to read all safety precautions!). 10) Leave about a 2" gap under your fence for drainage. 11) If you're in a windy area, leave 5/8 - 1/2" between slats (looks nicer sitting flush but this is the "official" advice for a privacy fence). 12) Sink your posts at least 2' into the ground (make sure you have enough remaining above grade to build the desired height. (The legal limit is 6' in most states.) Bear in mind that if your posts are inconsistent, you may have to cut the taller ones down so they don't exceed the height of the pickets/slats. You may be able to save this step if you plan carefully.) 13) The post hole should be ~8" in diameter. Level the post before you set the concrete. Brace the post while it is curing. 14) Tack the wood as you go with nails. When everything looks good come back and use ~2" deck screws to secure the slats to the rails. 15) If possible, level the ground running beneath the closed position of the gates before you put in the gate posts. (Use extra heavy duty posts for gates.) Make sure the gates open toward the down-slope if the ground isn't level. 16) Use steel gate frames to prevent sagging. (Building a gate is a whole different animal and might be better served by a pro.)

[@tenniskidaaron1]

Thnx for this! Great advice ​@@newsview7844

[@kevinorr6880]

He has a fairly substantial following! I always look at people doing things better…if I can prove they are better. Suggestions for correction and improvement as you go are best.

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

I really like some of Jeff's videos, they can be really useful. But I have to be honest, he's miles wide of the mark on so many things in this video. I'm completely self taught and even I would be going "f**k no" if I saw someone doing pretty much everything in this video! For a start, wind sheer IS real! You NEED bloody strength. I've seen the wind rip a fence to pieces and punch a picket through a car windscreen. Can you imagine what that'll do to a child's body? Secondly, that foam fix is just absolutely sh**. Might aswell set them in horse turd! That second post moved when he was marking it WITH HIS PENCIL! Come on Jeff! Don't let sponsorship compromise your own standards. I've SEEN you build far better than this!

[@BUTGOD-j1x]

I have a neighbor who built an 8ft board on board fence with foam for Posts 2 years ago. Meanwhile, I built 3 fences a year ago in same neighborhood and HIS fence is leaning noticably already.

[@exelvalleestrada7074]

The force is real, love that. Great videos overall 🤌🏼

[@nmatthew7469]

Dude, those posts rot out in five, depending on water. That foam is garbage, quick set cement if you want to build the same day.

[@patrickzadd5215]

Ok this kinda breaks my heart I’ve watched quite a few of Jeff’s videos…. and had faith in the quality of his craftsmanship however……

[@RaiderNation86]

I belt a fence with vevor fence spikes. The fence is super wobbly, I even put up a 16" gate. LMFAO 🤣 Hoping it last through the wind season we have.

[@eliasl4308]

Where I work virtually all fences have wood 4x4, I rarely can talk people into metal posts. The rails are in brackets between the posts. People complain when the fence follows the grade because it “isn’t straight” what they mean is level. They virtually all demand stair steps while also not wanting any gap at the bottom. To the point I have to argue that the pickets can’t touch the ground. The more I see from other states the more I think I should move.

[@j.richardrush408]

In Australia, where I've built several fences, our approach is to construct things to last for 50-80 years. That's why we have the saying: "Prepare well, do it right the first time, so you can relax with a drink that night." As a tradesman and as a person, I don't tolerate halfway craftsmanship. Taking pride in one's work is crucial. That's why we rely on string lines and measuring aids to ensure the job is done properly.

[@nigelmartin3339]

Australia has some of the worst tradies ever. Their work is shocking.

[@BigHarryBalzac]

His motto could be, "Measuring is hard, and I like doing things the easy way."

[@JoeEverest]

@@BigHarryBalzac 😂 💯

[@whatevil]

There are a number of posts about this guy in the Ottawa subreddit (where he works as a contractor), saying not to hire him.

[@DanBlancUncensoredPodcast]

This is GREAT 😂 Jeff, just stop building fence bro

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@christophersteele2531]

I had a capped design put in last June in Harrisonville, Mo. The posts do not move unless you push reasonably hard. That movement you see in this video disturbs me. Foam just sounds sketchy to me. Joe, I paid a little extra for the capped fence. Does that indeed improvee sturdiness and logevity? It is definitely more eye pleasing. Do you think it was worth the extra money? I wish I could post a picture. It's gorgeous, especially after putting a oil based redwood stain on it after the wood dried out.

[@seanstack180]

I came across this guys videos when i built my fence last summer, I did not end up using his tips and tricks lol.

[@TheMadJester159]

“Do your best and caulk the rest” is this guy in a nutshell.

[@finallyfriday.]

In fairness.... he's trying to make it easy for a homeowner. Not making like a pro would do it. If a homeowner can do it easy and perfect like us pros we'd be out of work.

[@finallyfriday.]

@@Feed_Bleed_Read my my how easily you get all mad and rude at complete strangers. It must be hard to be you. I bet you flip the bird to others drivers from the safety of you car.

[@stevenkushinski6674]

I don’t see how pointing out poor quality work. Is being rude or being angry. You are rude and angry and have no clue.

[@finallyfriday.]

@@stevenkushinski6674 Wow, this exchange went right over your head. Read it 10x over and contemplate what was really said. Then get back with us.

[@stevenkushinski6674]

It did not go over my head people watch diy videos to do a better job have a better out come Jeff’s channel should be removed not joes channel

[@finallyfriday.]

@@stevenkushinski6674 Uhhh.... yeah. It did. Take a nap. You're tired.

[@nathanlarson7408]

What's a tuba for?

[@gregrodger8978]

Do you have a video where you build a fence? I would love to see a start to finish from an expert.

[@gw504saints]

Do you have a video of building a wood fence over a metal fence?

[@mrcryptozoic817]

If I were building a fence solely to enhance my sale of a property, I'd do this. Never any other time/reason. And I'd never talk it up.

[@rexkwondo21]

Thank you for ending the video I couldn't listen to jeff for another second. I felt my brain getting smoother 😂

[@jasonbrowne7525]

I used foam for my mail box first good rain the post started floating up I had to hold it down with a flag stone

[@txbow88]

Is it ok just the make the top of the fence perfectly level instead of trying to match the terrain? Especially if it’s not that much of a difference? I think I would rather see it being level than up and down with the ground.

[@Cody_Long]

Jeff should watch some SWI Fence videos so he learn how professionals do it

[@chandracox6814]

Jeff is definitely the type of person that won't listen to reason and always thinks he's right. I feel for his wife. Yikes.

[@TashaOneal-l8h]

​@@chandracox6814he's son hate working with him

[@armageddonready4071]

My fences are a mix of stucco earthbag, rebar and steel pipe. Some spots will stop a fifty round, and unless it’s assaulted, it should last decades.

[@Nicball505]

That guy gives all sorts of bad advice, I’ve watched his videos before and was shocked at how confidently he spreads misinformation.

[@JohnTheRevelat0r]

You know, I set my posts with gravel at the bottom and then concrete around. Then I used square rocks to level everything underneath the fence, so the lowest part of the terrain has a bit of rock showing, but at least the whole fence is one level and the bottom of the sides does not touch the ground, ever.

[@ericdavis1660]

So glad this guy is getting the review he deserves. The whole channel is full of bad advice.

[@JoeEverest]

Absolutely, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@MrTimdtoolman1]

The foam was a big mistake. dumping dry concrete and adding water incrementally is not that much harder and it will be super solid and strong. The "eye balling" method always used to come back and bite me in the as* so I learned that measuring always gives me a consistent result.

[@rickyriccijr.6746]

I don’t know how this guy haves a Chanel, the only reason anyone would seriously watch this guy it to see what come in the box of a product you interested in

[@bman6502]

I’m not a fan of 8’ span.. my max is 7’.. I realize it’s a few more post, but I feel you get a stronger fence for the money

[@Jordan-tq2jc]

The real test for anyone who puts wood in the ground… is do they know the difference between UC4A and UC4B PT lumber? If you use UC4A (what they sell at every lumber yard off the shelf) then it will likely rot off in 5-10 years, maybe 15-20 in a dry area like where I live. If you use UC4B treated lumber (like they use in engineered post frame foundations) the lumber will last 70+ years in the ground. Is this necessary in every circumstance? No, obviously it’s not. But if you didn’t know the difference to begin with, I question if you’ve actually done research or only listened to the “old timers” about every single process on how to build a fence, a deck, a post frame building, etc. I’m also a fan a metal brackets made for bending moment loads, etc. but sometimes a post in the ground is better, depending on your application or availability of materials. I guess my issue is, if you’re going to mock Jeff for his easy DIY methodology (which is fine too in many respects) I’m hoping you educate your audience on different treatment levels and analyze the pros and cons, effective time frames, and applicable situations. If you do this, great. I’ve just found that very few people ever mention the UC4B or UC4C options in PT wood. Everyone just assumes all PT wood will rot in a few years with concrete in the ground.

[@johnbick7434]

It's a pretty fair option to build a fence tbh. It doesn't always have to be hurricane proof

[@jasonfeldmanis4186]

7:32 his pencil marking moved the "set" post, this fence will definitely not last 40-50 years, or even 4-5 months.

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@robturner7853]

Joe Dont stress much , take it as Comedy!!🤣

[@JoeEverest]

At this point I’m starting to question whether he actually believes this stuff or if he’s just trolling us!

[@robturner7853]

you should see him paint🤣@@JoeEverest

[@chumdogmillionaire2643]

My man Joe called his belt a landmark 😂😂😂😂

[@brendamiller-dv6kt]

Is it ok to stagger your rails? I feel like having the rail attched to the whole 4x4 would be better for strong winds. Love a comment 😊

[@JoeEverest]

You certainly can, it will make for a stronger fence if you stagger the overlaps! Thanks for watching!

[@bradleyr4451]

Thanks Joe. Ive built fences, use quick dry cement for extra $. hold the post, align it, the other pours in the cement, move it around, line it up and hold it for 1 minute. leave it and go on. you come back to this in 10 min its solid, but leave it to cure. I did my fence by putting the posts. then cut a small piece of 2x4 and attaching to the post, 2 on one side 2 on the other. the main 2x4 5-8 ft then sits on top of the pieces and attached into the small piece. its all flat for the fence slats. Its strong and lasts and allows for expansion in the heat The guy in the video is annoying. Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

[@celestegrey9309]

No Way do the posts last 40 or 50 years!! 😂 I can speak from experience because we have a fence in Houston tx area that has rotten posts after 7 years. We’re now using Post Master posts now and in the future.

[@leecrawford6393]

As my grandad taught me “no matter how hard you try you just can’t polish a turd”.

[@J-px9ug]

Look how much it moved when he was making the x mark on the post. That sucker was shaking like he buried it 12 inches

[@theamaturepro]

How many inchmeters is in a kilomile though? Maybe in his units the specs are perfect! I think 6 inches is about a milifoot which is like a decamile in kansas or something around 12 inches for the rest of us. I took math in college so I'm pretty good with this stuff

[@JoeEverest]

😂😂😂

[@NoahDevine91]

Absolutely agree Joe if it’s a DIY or newbie installing fence they should definitely use a stringline and tape measure and take out the guess work and the, looks good enough 😀and racking with the grade instead of stair stepping when you can 👍

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@jadem187111]

Professionals still use string ling to mark the rail lines not just diyers.

[@DanW1010]

First, like your videos. As a fence guy for 16 years, install for 12 out of those 16 in NJ. Anyway this video did drove me up a wall a bit lol. Never used never thought and never will use that foam cause seeing him just mark the post with his pencil and it moves is the craziest part. 😂

[@chunkymonkey55555]

I dont really get using foam when you could just use postcrete, Couldn't you just run a line along all the posts and mark off the positions of all the horizontals?

[@fredwoods-o3g]

6 inch reveal, make a jig. no string, no tape. In some of Jeff's other videos, I've seen him do things that aren't to code here in the US. Maybe to code in hist part of Canada.

[@Scott_Atlanta]

Joe and Jeff just need to get a room.

[@JoeEverest]

😂 pass

[@bimmersandars9221]

If you need advice for tile and grout Jeff is your guy.

[@frankdutton8448]

I agree with you that Jeff's fence building techniques are questionable. Jeff's other building techniques for houses are pretty good. As I have qualifications in engineering in Australia and due to the long-term problems with using timber posts, I use steel posts, concrete and heavy rust prevention. The concrete level is above the ground and has a slope away from the post. Also, in Australia we can get over 17' lengths of fence rail. Using these rails allow for staggering the joints to increase the strength of the fence. At rail joints, an angled joint is used as well that allows the two fixings to the post to be away from the edge of the post. Under the pailings, I also install a concrete mowing strip that is reinforced into the post concrete.

[@55tumbler]

8 ft on center works BUT the post must be level

[@FullMe7alJacke7]

I trust his remodeling skills more than his fence building skills.

[@Meditations2024]

I haven't built a single fence in my life and I absolutely could and will build a *lot* stronger fence than he could/did. Why not simply put the posts slightly closer together so they are 8' outer edge to outer edge? Now you have 8' cross ties with screw attaching them dead center into the post. The structural integrity would be a lot higher and the posts would tie into each other and brace one another a lot better. Even as the wood aged, the increased structural integrity would add years to the fences life. Warping? Use thicker pickets and seal them properly. I mean, building one good fence costs more, but it's less costly than building two bad fences...I could build a 50 year wood fence, I bet. In fact, that's exactly what I'm going to do. Tim Allen that thing. Come at me tornado!

[@timdoughty4642]

His videos are actually pretty good and he lives in Canada doesn’t get the southwest United States weather

[@dragonjerod]

I think there's more than "make it look professional". Some people don't have the budget and have to just make something that looks "good enough" and serves a purpose. In my experience, the better is built, the higher the budget goes. I've done project where budget is not an issue and I surprise myself with the results, and others where I know everything I did wrong but I didn't have the money to buy the materials needed to make it right, and well, ot still works and serves it purpose, so, whatever lol. It's for me not for a customer. A job's quality from a contractor should definitely carry a higher quality standard than from a homeowner.

[@HingleMcCringle19]

Usually I like Home Reno’s videos but when I saw this one I was like 🧐🤔🤔🤔

[@counseloridealist]

He reminds me of the barkers at the state fair.