Joey Carbstrong argues that animals are sentient beings & killing them for food is morally wrong

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Joey Carbstrong speaks for the proposition of the motion that This House Would Go Vegan. Mr Carbstrong is an animal rights activist and KZbinr about his vegan diet and lifestyle.
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[@user-qm6hc6te5t]

What a powerful speech. As moral agents we must recognize that animal agriculture is a horror show that needs to end.

[@Wayne_Stream]

so does agicoulture as a hole becose it reqiers animals ie animal bones and blood for blud and bone and manure for firtliser

[@user-qm6hc6te5t]

@@Wayne_Stream Exploitation and cruelty to animals wouldn't happen in a vegan world, stop justifying animal cruelty you sick bastard.

[@Kim66869]

​@@Wayne_Streamlol your english sucks 😂

[@danielmclaughlin2145]

If I eat only beef it takes me a year to eat a cow. Do Oxford students (especially mathematicians) really believe that a year's worth of plant protein kills less animals?

[@user-qm6hc6te5t]

@@danielmclaughlin2145 eat only cow a year? what the hell are you talking about man? Are you telling me you're only eating meat with water every single day of your life and nothing else? No one will believe that crap, and not healthy at all. But even if you were some Wako that was doing that, it would still be evil. It's not about what causes less harm, it's about not causing unnecessary harm.

[@a_ij6269]

The only hard part about being vegan is having witnessed animals bleed to death, getting ignored by friends and family and attacked for trying to defend animals from a cruel and unnecessary death.

[@FanGirl171]

Excellent Joey. So eloquent and moving. Can’t understand how people can see and hear about these horrible brutalities and still support them.

[@RebekkaHay]

Enough with this holier than though BS! What “horrible brutalities”? You’re lucky that you can hide behind a username online, in IRL what you’re doing is called slander and is punishable by law!

[@Macluny]

@@RebekkaHay Gas chambers and macerators are pretty horrible and certainly brutal.

[@missoats8731]

@@RebekkaHay In what way is that slander? 😂I love how you folks are exposing your stupidity in this comment section. It helps people see which side has the arguments.

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's wombs and eat them alive in front of the mother as she struggles and then eat her. What are you going to do about that?

[@dreadpirate3159]

Uhh animals kill other animals for food what will u do abt that

[@GoVeganForTheAnimal]

Wow this was so well presented that I actually went vegan for new years and decided I'm going to commit some time to activism like Joey does. What an impressive gentleman changing the world for these beings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace for all

[@isienterttainmetnz3338]

I've been vegan for approaching 8 years now, after a lifetime of meat-eating. You've made an incredible choice. Keep informed, patient and don't let the apathy of the world get you down. Choose compassion.

[@Vegan12]

Twit- you are all over vegan youtube proclaiming to be vegan for 7 years

[@isienterttainmetnz3338]

I take it you're a troll account with a weird chip on their shoulder against veganism. I haven't commented anywhere else, let alone other vegans videos. I have a separate account to watch vegan and health so~~~ yeah, weird take, dude.@@Vegan12

[@DeeDeecampbellmusic]

Well done

[@Vegan12]

@@isienterttainmetnz3338 hey genius- it was directed at the original poster

[@samuelmolinari]

If people think Katie's speech is sound but Joey's isn't, I literally have no hopes for the future of human civilisation.

[@Dominick7]

wdym? What isnt sound about not supporting animal abuse? What else would be unsound but supporting terrorizing and abusing innocent defenseless beings?

[@nosherlockonlyseektruth]

Just imagine a human being an animal in the afterlife what a terrible life it would be, non vegans are evil, they are stopping humans from enlightenment

[@debbiedowner4327]

@@Dominick7did you understand what he means? Or am I misunderstanding you because it sounds like you’re asking the wrong questions.

[@Dominick7]

@@debbiedowner4327 not really. Was hoping he or someone would clarify what he said and meant. He seems to be saying Joeys speech wasn't sound.. Not sure who Katie is.

[@lostindisorder]

​​@@Dominick7Katie Hopkins did a speech after essentially mocking empathy, compassion, and veganism. She's a troll of a woman who loves being edgy, always has been.

[@ashleysherlock5705]

The true core of veganism - the ethics. There is no debating the horror of factory farming

[@dutchdykefinger]

factory farming does not equal "meat" wrong word

[@benmorgan681]

There are pasture raised and organic meats, just need to know who sells what. Also raising your own animals or paying a farmer to do so for you..

[@cornstar1253]

The true core of carnivore. My health and well being takes precedent over that of animals.

[@Ifti626]

Plants also get hurt and cry, he should study some science😂

[@RebekkaHay]

What ethics? The ethnics of mono culture ruining the soil? The ethics of importing ingredients from all over the planet burning fossil fuels? Or the ethics of malnourishment and starvation diets? Or the ethics of virtue signalling and the misguided desire to feel superior to ppl who are different from you? Which ethics? We do not practice “factory farming” and plants have feelings too, and that’s proven science. If you want to deprive your body of valuable nutrition go for it but don’t you dare try and take the moral high ground thinking what you do is better - it isn’t, it’s destroying the planet whereas traditional animal farming maintains it.

[@drewdundon7406]

This issue might be at the very core of our deteriorating society. Thank you for your work Joey.

[@martinfernandez882]

It IS. I was just thinking one of the first important lessons we teach our children is to shut off their natural empathy for some of the most innocent, because it's convenient and yummy for us. The fuck kinda society we trynna build with such nihilistic beastial lessons? I'm not trynna live in lion society, or the bronze age, thank u!

[@manlikeJoe1010]

@@martinfernandez882 Your quarrel is with the liberal secular modernity on which the West is based. For this worldview nature, instead of being the mysterious upwelling of being commanding our respect, has instead become a dead set of resources awaiting our exploitation and consumption. It is a problem of metaphysics and ontology (how we fundamentally view reality), not just a surface level policy issue.

[@drewdundon7406]

@@manlikeJoe1010 Very well said.

[@martinfernandez882]

@@manlikeJoe1010 I sort of agree, but this transcends the West in time and space. Vegan ideology, which itself involves many internal disagreements, involves plenty of metaphysical, ontological consideration, so... yeah.

[@realdragon]

Lmao no, now vegans just make shit up to "prove" that "veganism is better"

[@AR-dv3vm]

Joey speaking up for animal rights - thank you for ‚just‘ telling the truth 💚🫶🌱

[@letshugandlove324]

he's against human rights

[@FM-qm5xs]

@@letshugandlove324 Source please.

[@shahgyy]

We as humans are omnivores and must eat meat

[@FM-qm5xs]

@@shahgyy We have no physiological adaptation designed specifically for eating meat. We have many for eating plants though. Even though we can derive nutrition from meat it does not mean we have to or even that it is beneficial outside a survival situation.

[@shahgyy]

@@FM-qm5xs we were 1000%meant to eat fish. Especially salmon. It's just way too healthy.

[@MoistVegan]

Well said Joey. There’s no argument against being vegan. You wouldn’t want to be a farmed animal so why force animals to be exploited and killed.

[@Assassin99584]

Theres no arguments in favour of the vegan cult which is why you are running from a debate

[@vincentm7150]

There were no arguments against it because you couldn't debate him here 😂

[@MoistVegan]

@@vincentm7150 why aren’t u vegan

[@Assassin99584]

@@MoistVegannice dodge

[@megadeath666666]

You wouldn’t want to be an onion, so why you eat it?

[@MathisDupuy]

What a powerful speech. Thank you Joey, for everything you've done (and you do) for the animals

[@Wayne_Stream]

you do relise he got a cimminal record en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong

[@MathisDupuy]

@@Wayne_Stream Yes but he's not like you, he has evolved :)

[@HarveyHirdHarmonics]

@@Wayne_Stream en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[@vegefarmerkawlesie]

Brilliant speech!!! Made me and my husband cry... we have been vegan for animals for the last 12 years and going strong!! Hopefully it has tickled some deep hidden empathy in those people 🙏

[@joekrige2673]

Brilliant speech.

[@caliskaterboy626]

You’ve saved so many animals in your 12 years! I’m almost at 12 years too.

[@chlorophyllphile]

​​@@caliskaterboy626I wouldn't exactly call it saving though. That's like planning a massacre, cancel that plan and claim you saved all their lives by doing so. Still obviously a very good thing though.

[@caliskaterboy626]

@@chlorophyllphile I see your point. “Saving” sounds like rescuing animals who are about to be slaughtered. In this case, we’re reducing demand which, especially collectively, leads to reduced supply, thereby reducing the number of animals bred into existence and slaughtered. Do you think “sparing” animals is a more accurate term for this?

[@bouncin2207]

​@@chlorophyllphile "Spared" would be the word.

[@els7397]

Theres nothing in this life, for me so far, more enlightening than the argument for veganism. Your speech sums it up so elegantly.

[@samluthenberg1751]

lol really, then you must have lived a short life.

[@ASOT666]

@@user-ec2nn6ht9r I'll send you $1000 if you can explain why being pro-choice is contradictory with a pro-vegan stance - which is that we should not slaughter sentient animals for food/entertainment/pleasure etc as far as possible/practicable.

[@ASOT666]

@@samluthenberg1751 Animal slaughter is one of the most normalized immoral activities in the present day, with the vast majority of the population having an anti-vegan stance. Especially when you consider the scale of the problem, the neglectedness of the animals who are subject to hellish factory farms, and how easily consumer choice can mitigate this issue. What enlightening argument/position might one be exposed to if they've lived a longer life?

[@samluthenberg1751]

@@ASOT666 Longer life gives wisdom and also your argument for excluding sentient species from your palate is entirely hypocritical. Just to let you know, shouldn't all living beings have the right to live. That means not just animals but insects, pests, microorganisms like bacteria, and even crops. I am not judging you when you murder all the baby saplings and grind the seeds to make flour. Shouldn't plants also get the same rights as animals? But you judge us for eating meat from an entirely different species and validating with a hypocritical argument that all sentient life has the right to live. I ask you, who made you the king to discriminate against who gets to live. So my advice is, just live your vegan lifestyle, don't be a narcissist, and don't consider yourself a being of high morals. You are exactly the same as me, eating other living beings to grow. We are not photosynthetic so get over it.

[@Wayne_Stream]

@@ASOT666 you do relise that most farmers arnt factory farmers and still have to use sluterhouses to put meat into your local supermarket sherls and at butchers right

[@HHHSykes]

Finally, someone in this debate smashing the only point that really matters. Thank you for this. The world needs to hear it.

[@benmorgan681]

The world needs to hear about this boy pushing an unhealthy diet? Can you explain how eating a high soy and legume diet which leads to sperm loss at the very least and possible developmental issues for babies and children.. Your most educated response. Please look up harvards study on soy and low sperm, will be one of the first to pop up👌 Really looking forward to your response.

[@hemztv]

​@@benmorgan681Can you show me evidence for your claims about soy? (Not blog articles, but scientific journals and studies, peer reviewed by experts)

[@foebelboo]

@@benmorgan681 lower sperm count does not, not in any way get even close to justifying trillions of animals.

[@boxonothing4087]

@@foebelboo that's about the death toll of agriculture required to grow your vegan food It's wrong to destroy life to consume it, but it's not wrong to destroy life to produce food that doesn't destroy life, did I get it right ? Problem is, you may not kill to eat, you kill to grow what you eat. I guess small life forms aren't important enough to be taken into consideration. Not cute enough ?

[@ActiveGamingUK]

@@boxonothing4087damn you said so much and still managed to sound so stupid

[@wickedmageik1712]

Thank you Joey for being so confident, articulate, and just absolutely someone to look up to. Nothing but facts, and clarity. Thank you for being you

[@shanezveganess5969]

A very powerful speech Joey, thank you, Humanity did not commit these atrocities ... it was the absence of humanity & inhumanity combined. Humanity is what is urgently needed.

[@Smithsterable]

Thanks Joey and congratulations to The Oxford Union for taking the step to be vegan. Best decision I’ve made personally. Thank you x

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. If they are sentient shouldn't they go vegan?

[@BunchOfGreyGrapes]

Except the Iron that you can't get naturally

[@kimberlybarron977]

One of the best speeches I’ve ever heard. Thank you Joey! So happy me and my family have not contributed to animal suffering. Family of 4, vegan 8 years. Vegan forever. 💪

[@benmorgan681]

I'm afraid you can't say a boy that lies constantly is giving a good speech.. The boy literally lies all the time in regards to food and its amazing health benefits. Meats so nutritionally packed not a single vegan food can replicate it. I would NEVER swap my child's super healthy diet for a high soy and legume diet filled with anti-nutrients, phytates, genistein, lectins, phytates and phytoestrogens which lower sperm in males and can cause issues with a babies development. Veganism will always be unhealthy for us meaning that eating meat will never stop thankfully, with or without the little boys lies.

[@tenbumaka7899]

@@benmorgan681 Okay meat industry grifter

[@benmorgan681]

​@@tenbumaka7899no grift.. I understand basic nutritional information that shows meats are undeniably the most nutrionally packed foods on earth.. Simple search will show you this. I can back up all my claims and willing to do so, just ask😁 more than happy to show the liar that little boy joey is.

[@Tiomond]

@@benmorgan681 What exactly is the nutritional health benefit? The high cholesterol that is associated with most heart diseases?

[@lobovutare]

​@@benmorgan681the NHS and Acadamy of Nutrition and Dietetics disagree with you that veganism is unhealthy. A well planned vegan diet can be healthy for all stages of life. There is no need for mass voilence for any of the nutrients you need. All of them can be gotten via a plant based diet. Do your homework.

[@castorrivasiribarren6855]

Congratulations, Joey. Your powerful speech encourages us vegans to persevere and reaches more and more people open to questioning systems of oppression and their beliefs.

[@benmorgan681]

You should look up the harvard study alone of joey and his high soy diet which is harmful to men and more so to boys the younger they get due to the anti-nutrients in soy and all legumes and many vegan food options.. These anti-nutrients not only block full absorption of nutrients, protein, calcium, zinc, iron etc but also lower sperm in men as well as cause possible developmental issues with babies.. If you love your child please don't take these crazy risks. Eat what is natural and healthiest, not processed junk, high carb unhealthy and harmful vegan diets.

[@byMRTNjournals]

Veganism is for the childless. Enjoy

[@BenJohnson-oz8dl]

How is feeding the most nutrional superfoods in healthy meats bad? You understand it's best for a babies brain and bevelopment? You understand the amount of anti-nutrients in legumes, especially soy, Lentils and many other of your foods with chemical compounds like genistein, lectins, phytates and more but more importantly is phytoestrogens which effect men sp3rm, just search "harvard study soy sp3rm loss" too see the effects and understand that it effects younger people and kids far more. It's okay in moderation but vegans rely on it while normal eaters have superfood meats that are impossible to replicate in a healthy diet with pasture raised meats.. It's scientifically impossible. There are SO many reasons not to go vegan and I can back up all my claims, ask what to search for and I'll tell you.

[@michaelwalsh9145]

You stick to your rabbit food diet and let everyone else eat a proper balanced diet.

[@sgtKRILLEX]

@@michaelwalsh9145I can’t wait till they start limiting how much your beer belly can eat I’ll be laughing for eternity as you cry like a little baby pig😂

[@nevermind3959]

Thank you, Joey, for fighting for animals and for telling the truth, thank you very much for your amazing speech🙏🌱✨️

[@JL-zm6md]

Joey is right. End speciesism once and for all.

[@Assassin99584]

Speciesism doesn’t exist

[@Turgid_Spleenis]

@@Assassin99584Speciesism does exist

[@fiberologist]

​@@Turgid_SpleenisAssassin is a prolific anti-vegan troll. Engagement is pretty futile.

[@Turgid_Spleenis]

@@fiberologist It’s more for other people who might happen upon the comment thread.

[@giorgipiorgi]

Speciesism 😂 Veganism is such a woke cult

[@viviendaquino8364]

Always speaking for the animals, Joey! Well done.

[@SloppyPowerFart5000]

Now we just need to figure out how to stop animals from killing and eating each other too!

[@dodumichalcevski]

​@@SloppyPowerFart5000why should we ?

[@hexiy_dev]

@@SloppyPowerFart5000 yes we need to figure out how to stop animals from building factories and breeding and killing each other too!

[@someguy2135]

A voice for the voiceless!

[@synchronium24]

@@dodumichalcevski Because preventing suffering is good, whether the suffering is caused by humans or animals. I don't think this is possible for animals because the carnivorous ones can't digest plants and the omnivorous ones don't have the cognitive capacities to be persuaded not to eat meat.

[@vegan_skye]

Joey Carbstrong is such a selfless man. He has dedicated his life to helping those who can never repay him for his kindness. He speaks for the voiceless. I'm sure if they could say thank you they would.

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong he got a crimminal record

[@Renskaaa]

@@Wayne_Streamgreat example how people can change their lives around, isn’t it? :)

[@vegan_skye]

@@Wayne_Stream Yes he went to prison for his crimes and he has been sober ever since. He turned his life around and has now dedicated his life to helping innocent beings who are being abused. Being an ex gang member doesn't reflect badly on who he is now. If anything it shows that he is capable of personal growth and transformation. Having a criminal record doesn't automatically make you wrong about everything you say for the rest of your life. That's ridiculous.

[@Wayne_Stream]

@@vegan_skye you do relise Any conviction the court has ever issued to you will be on your criminal history, and it remains there for life, except when removed by special orders like the Spent Convictions Scheme of Australia. How far back does a background check go in Australia? 5 to 10 years Concerns about how far back police checks go often arise when individuals seek employment or licencing. While the specified timeframe may vary across states and territories, police checks regularly capture convictions and certain offences within the past 5 to 10 years, with some serious offences included indefinitely.

[@MrMortadeloyfilemon]

you're dodgin the point. His history is IRRELEVANT to what he's been doing and what he continues to do. If you cared to listen...@@Wayne_Stream

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

This should be obvious and uncontroversial. End animal agriculture now.

[@residentjess]

You really don’t understand how stupid that would be? It would lead to mass malnutrition. How do you get your plants? Ever heard of bonemeal? Animal manure? Even your cellphone has bits of an animal in it. But you won’t let go off that, huh?

[@letshugandlove324]

my body my choice

[@peteglanton9259]

@@letshugandlove324 And what about them and their bodies? Do they choose to be enslaved, exploited, and killed so that you can choose a sandwich, when you could choose hundreds other meals? Oppression looks different from the victim’s point of view.

[@georgewashingtom6516]

@@peteglanton9259 Veganism is just another religion

[@letshugandlove324]

@@peteglanton9259 so people that believe in eating meat is healthy should be enslaved and oppressed by vegan cult? you eat what you want and I'll eat what I think is healthy and f your control!

[@tamiedunstan6079]

Well done Joey, nothing but 100% truth in your argument 🙌

[@vincentgibbins6719]

Absolutely brilliant speech Joey. Thank you for continuously speaking up for oppressed animals. Your work is making a positive impact every single day

[@RuberSocks]

Seriously, this speech needs to be shared to every single classroom of our new generation.

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record

[@Wayne_Stream]

@@RuberSocks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record

[@RuberSocks]

@@Wayne_Stream Yeah he used to be in a gang when he was young many years ago and is very open about it. The power of change is lost on you though

[@geraldinedaniels8331]

I cannot understand why humans in this day and age can be so deceived into believing that using animals for food they do not need to survive is ok. Killing is killing no matter what the species and to kill without necessity is an abomination

[@garysaunders1546]

Survive or thrive? Because that is 2 very different things. What would your thoughts be if being vegan was unhealthy, making someone ill or giving them poor health? Should we still all become vegans and be forced to do that? Say especially for someone deficient in lots of things? This isn't to start an argument by the way just intersted in your thoughts and opinions. I find it crazy how there are millions and billions of homeless people still and that seems to be getting worse not better. It's definitely got out of hand but a big part of that surely has come from over consumption and over population?

[@shreenybeany1751]

@@garysaunders1546We are in the most prosperous times of history. Homelessness, human suffering and dying, is at an all time low. Affluence and prosperity is at an all time high. I suggest you research history before saying things are getting worse, because they are actually getting infinitely better by the year.

[@garysaunders1546]

@@shreenybeany1751 and where do you do your amazong research may i ask? Please don't tell me what I should do I really don't appreciate that when I actually work hands on seeing it for myself in person. I work for a homeless charity and the numbers are constantly going up year after year so instead of suggesting i look into research id simply suggest you maybe go and look for yourself out in the real world. You are simply basing it off off what we are told or what you are reading...this is totay different to what we are SEEING

[@garysaunders1546]

@@shreenybeany1751 better by the year? I'm not sure where you are getting this from. Compared to 1950 of course I agree... compared to 5 or 10 years ago definitely not. When you factor in the planet population and other things compared to then you are literally comparing chalk and cheese because it is so different. My comment wasnt comparing today to 50 or 100 years ago although seems like this is what you have jumped to the conclusion of. Maybe for you or for alot of people there is great opportunity these days I cant deny that. Please don't make these false comments and try and tell me what is true or false. I'm simply basing my comment off of real life experience working in amongst it on fhe last 10 years. The cost of living and strain on people and families mean we are seeing more and more homelessness so by me saying it isn't trying to compare history that's not what I was doing or said.

[@undergrace1808]

@@shreenybeany1751no homelessness is on the high. This country has turned into a banana republic in the last 3 years.

[@connerhughes1435]

Eloquent, factual and heartfelt, well done Joey

[@clarecurtis36]

Thank you for speaking up for animals Joey and for spreading the message of kindness and compassion for all beings!

[@virnagalli2164]

Don't forget the aborted fetus in the womb!

[@chrismoltisanti]

Well done, Joey! Intellectually and morally, veganism is the only way to create a hopeful future.

[@nosherlockonlyseektruth]

Just imagine someone being born as animal after death, what a terrible life, non vegans are not only cruel for animals but humanity as well

[@Veganismdebunked812]

Intellectually, it’s a fact that veganism will never take over because vegans reproduce at such a poor rate.

[@longevitycoach1573]

Such a STUPIDITY, talk to not longer vegan if you wanna know it better.

[@foebelboo]

@@benmorgan681 no thanx i will gladly disagree

[@seanogorman3617]

@@benmorgan681you are down one hell of a rabbit hole dude. Lay off the carnivore channels

[@anderfigueroa2466]

This was written and spoken so eloquently in such a short amount of time. Joey manages to cover and unarm every foolish justification to do with morality that pops into a carnist’s mind as they listen with an overwhelming amount of cognitive dissonance. Fucking legend this guy.

[@Wayne_Stream]

he is all so a convited crimminal with a crimminal record en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong

[@chantellerosebud1780]

@@Wayne_StreamJoey is very open about his past and is living a very different life now. His troubled past was part of the journey which led him to become the moral activist he is today.

[@Wayne_Stream]

@@chantellerosebud1780 whats moral about forceing your way of life down the thrughts of others by forceing i mean corseing prpole into being vegan by manipulation ie Reverse psychology if you dont know what Reverse psychology heres what it means Reverse psychology is a technique involving the assertion of a belief or behavior that is opposite to the one desired, with the expectation that this approach will encourage the subject of the persuasion to do what is actually desired

[@jallen911]

The meat, dairy and egg industries lies are slowly eroding. Truth, ethics and justice for animals will prevail 🌱🌱🌱

[@virnagalli2164]

How about justice for the aborted human!!

[@wanderlustecosse7444]

Fantastic. Thank you for being a voice for the animals ❤

[@virnagalli2164]

How about the voice of the aborted child!!

[@beakalin3923]

What an impressive and true speech! Thanks Joey Carbstrong! Your words have been heard! End speciesism!🙏🌱💚

[@StormStrum]

Does this apply to all living creatures or just the ones you like?

[@beakalin3923]

@@StormStrum What does veganism means?

[@StormStrum]

@@beakalin3923 what does omnivore mean?

[@lobovutare]

​@@StormStrumit means having a choice, unlike a carnivore. You can choose to minimize the harm you do to animals or you can choose to continue the needless violence.

[@borna1897]

​@@lobovutare veganism is abuse to humans? How can you think we can suddenly change the way of eating Just look at this joey carbstrong guy

[@mellowboogie]

Joey that was really beautifully said. I get so tired of constantly hearing only environmental and health perspectives when the Ethics are pushed to the back , despite being the reason most vegans made the change.

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. Is that not ethical? Should the big, bad hyenas stop it? Every vegan I've known as went back to meat. I still remember the words after they ate a steak pie of it being "The best thing I've eaten in ages." after many years of being a hardcore vegan LOL!

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong

[@ethansmyth8110]

Great speech Joey, keep standing up for the animals. 💚

[@virnagalli2164]

How about standing up for the aborted human!!

[@uniformitydubliner9691]

One of THE best speeches I have EVER heard!!!

[@NickGiannotti]

Great speech - spoken with class and conviction. Keep up the great work you are doing 👏👏👏

[@Liamcourtnae]

Amazing speech. Transparent. Clear. Consice & nothing but truth!

[@georgemioch8981]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He never mentioned that by not eating animals you sentenced all those animals that you would have eaten to not being born... How cruel?

[@trullman]

Such an incredibly moving and compelling, heartfelt speech, Joey. Legendary.

[@LisaCooper-thevegan-123]

Well said Joey 😢😢🙏♥️♥️

[@angierhinier]

We love you, Joey!!! Keep up the tremendous support for our cause to one day see love and kindness shown to all beings!

[@Stay1967k]

Thank you for highlighting the terrible plight of animals! Really appreciate your hard work ❤

[@PLANTBASEDNEWS]

Thank you Joey, thank you GenV.

[@TheMindProjection]

Way before I went vegan a hare krishna fellow told me. "The language of love cannot be uttered by a bloodied tongue". That always stuck with me. Anyway, good job, Joey.

[@Lithiumgurl210]

Amazing debate and for speaking the truth that needs to be heard for the new generation to pave a better future for ALL lives, not just human lives.

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. If they are sentient shouldn't they feel morally bad and go vegan?

[@davidtomkins8245]

An excellent, accurate and direct speech Joey. Well done!

[@RuberSocks]

Simple as that. Treat others how you would want to be treated folks.

[@letshugandlove324]

exactly! let people eat what they think is healthy, there health choice! you want to control other peoples health choices?

[@RuberSocks]

@@letshugandlove324 I'm sure you would love to legalize dog meat as well wouldn't you.

[@letshugandlove324]

@@RuberSocks you don't know very much do you?

[@RuberSocks]

@@letshugandlove324 been vegan 9 years bud. There's no magic chemical in animals that compels me to insert them into my mouth.

[@OfficialEDirty]

@@letshugandlove324you can be perfectly healthy on a vegan diet.

[@franciscachesca]

Well spoken 🙏 thank you. Let's stop animal cruelty together. Let's unite and support eachother.

[@virnagalli2164]

How about fetus cruelty!

[@georgemioch8981]

yes, let's sentence all the animals that we would have eaten to never being born... how cruel

[@Liurika]

Just brilliant Joey. Thank you for speaking loud and clear in defense of these innocent animals ❤

[@virnagalli2164]

And the innocence in the womb!!

[@PauIdenino]

Joey is a hero 🌱

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record

[@donnae9566]

​@@Wayne_StreamHe has done his time and came out a better, reformed person. Don't you believe people deserve to be reformed and a second chance to get it right? With an attitude like you have, I sincerely hope you're perfect!

[@Creepavore]

No Joey is a crazy activist.

[@heatherdyett9119]

What an accurately worded and powerful speech! Love to see this and will share far and wide! Congratulations and thank you so much Joey! 💚🌱

[@lochieb3640]

Such a brilliant and well rounded speech Joey you legend! Thank you!

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. If they are sentient shouldn't they feel morally bad and go vegan?

[@thekecando8295]

Dear Joey, I would like to congratulate you on your career. You spent your youth in an environment from which very few end up at Oxford and make an enormously important contribution to animal rights. All the best to you and your loved ones in the new year. Keep it up 👍

[@haveigonemad7701]

Never change who you are Joey, Your speeches are always powerful and heartwarming, animals deserve so much better. I look forward to seeing what else you bring in 2024 ❤

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Do the animals who get torn open by hyenas and their unborn children torn from their wombs and eaten alive in front of the struggling, helpless mother who then gets eaten herself deserve better? Should the hyenas stop it because it's morally bad?

[@chloeharrison4928]

@@hghyfyfiugou4448it’s a bit of a different scenario. Hyenas don’t have a moral compass, humans do.

[@ruthsmith1694]

All animals in the wild who are carnivors do so to survive and have no other choices, we as humans and who are not carnivors have plenty of healthy food choices.@@hghyfyfiugou4448

[@janelarsen4788]

​​@@chloeharrison4928 ohh yes all animals have moral and compassion like humans, but vegans cant see that, because hypocrite vegans are scared of everything 🤮👎🤦‍♀️😡

[@letshugandlove324]

@@chloeharrison4928 can you eat hyenas before they eat another animal? then you can save more animals from gruesome painful death.

[@eatyaveggies_]

Well done, Joey! Very articulate and thought provoking points. Animal agriculture needs to be abolished!

[@Assassin99584]

Hypocrite

[@jakedub1497]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Joey is a true hero.

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record

[@dbr2802]

@@Wayne_Stream Why does this matter? It has no relevance to veganism at all..

[@bellow_musicalpoetry]

Great speech, Joey. Hopefully people will take this on board and act.

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record

[@bellow_musicalpoetry]

@@Wayne_Stream stop living in the past

[@Bricefriha]

@@Wayne_Stream No shit dude? OMG, I DIDN'T KNOW!!!! He absolutely don't remind everyone that he was a criminal in everysingle of his speeches (including this one) /s I love when imbeciles think they are super claver, it's illarious

[@johanna.j7195]

@@Wayne_Stream but he has changed and he is a useful loving person now. unlike you. Hater

[@jeanmorris6601]

100% vegan for the animals . Great speech Joey 💚🌱

[@sarastone8235]

Brilliant speech Joey, clear, concise, and powerful 👏👏👏

[@mikaela1669]

This had me crying. Well done Joey!

[@Serendipity-gj2me]

Great work Joey Carbstrong, and so well spoken! It's a speech to be remembered.

[@VeridianBlues]

Congratulations, Joey. Finally, the needed argument. Truth is what matters. Nobody's feelings should be above the life on any being, not to mention a sentient being. "In relation to [animals], all people are Nazis; for the animals it is an eternal Treblinka." - Isaac Bashevis Singer I remember reading that for the first time and realizing, when animals are about to be slaughtered and/or abused, it does not matter what my stance on religion, politics and human right is, for in their eyes we are all the same: oppressor - if we payed for it, participated or stayed silent. I do not want to be a guard in that camp nor someone who said: "I had to do it" or "Everybody does it".

[@RebekkaHay]

Your feelings should not be more important than my life and my well being, so shut it.

[@Macluny]

​@@RebekkaHay You'd have a stronger argument if you actually cared about the lives and well being of all other sentient beings. Now you just look like a hypocrite :)

[@Reeeeves]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@RebekkaHayNeither should yours, princess. But, your voracious tendency to eat meat is causing problems for everyone. Therefore, you're impeding your will and emotions on the lives of others for you to be able to satisfy your sensory pleasure. Which seems hypocritical based on what you're saying.

[@MargheritaOrsoPletti]

Thank you Joey for being their voice ❤

[@Jsarson1976]

Thanks Joey for you being you and performing a great well thought out speech.

[@benjy3656]

Amazingly powerful speech, thanks for all the work you do Joey. 8 years deep into Veganism and have never looked back!

[@jaimefazackerley]

Amazing Joey. Very well said and moving speech. Thank you for speaking up for the animals!

[@janem5900]

A speech powered by sincere passion and empathy for nonhuman animals. Thank you Joey

[@py16667]

Joey is such a legend

[@ryanrothford2983]

Well done sir! Thank you so much for your courage, bravery and honesty. You make the world a better place for humans and animals alike! ✌🏼❤️🌱

[@ninamarie2377]

Well said as always Joey! 🙏🏼

[@jackiefox7224]

Extremely well said. More like this needs to be in the mainstream. I think people would be appalled at the system that supplies their burgers, wings, eggs, milk…. The more can “make the connection” between what they eat and the poor wretched souls behind it, the more will say no more. A saying caught my eye several years ago, “a lovely meal, soon forgotten, cost someone their life”… I never forget it. And not to mention, being plant based is much more healthy for humans. 🇨🇦

[@TuorUlmondil]

Great speech! Thank you, Joey!

[@justcallmeflora]

Joey, thank you for fighting for those who dont have a voice. So grateful you exist

[@evenpetersen3569]

You are a gift joey. Unapologetically explaining the horrors of animal exploitation.

[@ChaseAvior]

It takes 25 calories of plants to make 1 calorie of beef because the cow has to eat plants for 18 months to get them up to slaughter weight. - Yale University

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Then why don't you go and live off raw grain and grass for the rest of your life? Because that's what animals are fed. Even if not, why aren't vegan-based foods much cheaper if it's 25-1? It they were cheaper, guarantee a lot more people would be "vegan" and not care.

[@Geeza-rc9kz]

That's because we cannot eat the vegetation they consume... They break it down for us into the nutrition we need. This is school knowledge go read a dam book

[@emmaglasgow3786]

Thank you, Joey. It's a weight off the soul to see the battle for animal lives fought so eloquently. This must take a massive toll on you. Thank you for your selfless efforts, which mean so much to us!

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Should hyenas stop tearing open the wombs of mother animals, ripping out their unborn children and eating them in front of her as she lays helpless and then eaten?

[@Wayne_Stream]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record

[@emmaglasgow3786]

@@Wayne_Stream The people present at that debate ended up voting in favour of veganism. That was largely thanks to Joey's speech. The priority is the liberation of animals from torture. Joey's efforts to affect progress in favour of animal rights are to be commended.

[@toprajesh1]

Thank you Joey for fighting against the entire system.

[@Flobb1t]

Joey, with an actual well laid out argument, unlike one of the oppositions drunken lie filled rant.

[@Ginger_shot]

Excellent speech. Thank you Joey. I hope even the soulless Katie Hopkins heeded these words of absolute truth.

[@JJ-zf1nq]

Thankyou Joey for your speech. The only outcome is that the house should be vegan. The systematic domination, enslavement & mass killing of animals has to Stop. I have stood with you and other’s who care outside slaughterhouses and seen & heard the fear and sadness in animals about to be killed & it is heartbreaking. So thankyou for raising this at the Oxford union & never stop fighting for the right’s of animals. ✊🏼

[@penyorfeas84]

Well done! Compassion is the only path ❤❤

[@lunchymunchy2984]

All Power Joey✌🏽💕🐾🌱

[@carolynmcclenaghan8278]

Excellent speech. Well done joey.

[@tldrttyl]

Joey, this is nothing short of amazing. This is up there with Gary Yurovsky’s early speeches that led me to go vegan 7 years ago. Well done 👏

[@Assassin99584]

Gary is a terrorist

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. Shouldn't they feel morally bad and go vegan?

[@firangele8094]

Excellent, Joey!!! Thank you for all you do for the animals 🐷 ❤I have been vegan for six year now. I feel happy about not hurting animals, healthy and happy. ❤🙏

[@liawilbourn]

Beautiful, powerful, perfect. Love you Joey! Thank you! 👏👏👏💚💚💚

[@VertigoAt1977]

What a powerful & straight forward speech! Each point stands in the face of the society we are today. Animals need to be liberated!

[@RebekkaHay]

Which animals! All of them? What about antelopes? Do you want to ban animals eating other animals too? How do you plan on enforcing that? Does that include microbes as well? You get to decide for the whole planet who gets to eat what? Never mind that mono crops and agriculture are destroying the planet, you need to be in charge. Please tell us your wise plan! 😂 You dimwit 😂

[@mr.blackhawk142]

Ask me WHY I started 'social-distancing' A LONG TIME AGO.

[@elizabethdean0187]

So well spoken, Joey. Carry on. Many of us are behind you doing our collective bit to wake people up and bring and end to this atrocity. Professor-Elizabeth

[@Phoenixrises89]

THANKYOU Joey… you’re the voice for the voiceless…❤

[@karentaylor4632]

Absolutely 💯 spot on, brilliantly portrayed for all animals. Such an advocate.💚🌱

[@keyandaouk]

Joey, thank you for doing the real work. You are a breathing, physical proponent for change.

[@chloelegard]

Joey nailed this speech. Well done!

[@2americangirls967]

Phenomenal, speech Joey, it is the jewel in the crown of all other animal activism speeches. Congratulations. God Bless.

[@Untillallarefree]

Joey is an amazing person and a true animal defender! People need to listen to what he has to say!!

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. Shouldn't they go vegan?

[@melaniehall279]

Well done Joey, amazing! 👏🏻

[@traceybaucom5755]

So proud of you Joey. It's extremely hard to do what you do. Takes strength beyond what others possess. If we all could stand so strong we could end this abomination now.

[@photorealistica]

It blows my mind that it's still controversial to be vegan. It's a small action we all can take to change the world for better. True change starts within and we can all easily participate.

[@JB.zero.zero.1]

Culture notoriously digs it's heels in, and actual change, especially what appears to be more radical, can take decades, or centuries. It is very frustrating when there are issues we need to address now - as I type. Most people really don't care about these issues.

[@Competitive_Antagonist]

Its controversial because these people are so incredibly unpleasant, that people want to eat more meat just to spite them. To them, anyone not spending all their money and free time trying to make a new diet work, is evil. We're just trying to live our lives and most of us have too much on our plate to conform to the lifestyle of people that hate us. TLDR; The worst thing about veganism are the vegans.

[@jamesjackson5020]

It's not controversial

[@iamrocketray]

I can't manage veganism but I'm a vegetarian and have been for the last 40 years😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@Gaming_Vegan_Ape]

Not good enough. Dairy is the meat industry, worse even.​@@iamrocketray

[@deisepolo]

Thank you so much . Things needed to be said and all. 👏👏👏👏

[@donnypicz]

Absolutely spot on. Thank you Joey for speaking the truth.

[@Slaine_OP]

How can anyone argue this? Ashamed to be human

[@asdasdgcgfg9107]

Plants don't have: Vitamins A, B6 (pyridoxal, pyridoxamine), B12, D, F, K2 Amino acids: creatine, carnitine, carnosine, taurine Heme-iron, CoQ10, Cholesterol, CLA

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

Why?

[@andreasvandieaarde]

Wait, argue in favor of being vegan or argue *against* it?