Joey Jordison x Jay Weinberg x Eloy Casagrande - disasterpiece - drum cam comparison.

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@Overstreett
@Overstreett 6 ай бұрын
Slipknot never chose wrong drummer, respect joey, jay & eloy 🔥
@mewsick5093
@mewsick5093 6 ай бұрын
Great assessment!
@streamspoart2671
@streamspoart2671 6 ай бұрын
Slipknot is the luckiest band, always got a great drummer
@Renan_Toledo
@Renan_Toledo 6 ай бұрын
O melhor comentário sobre O assunto... 3 Maravilhosos bateristas. Cada um em seu estilo... Brasileiro entende muito de metal, e tem fans loucos como todos os artistas renomados do mundo. Dizer que Jay nao tem qualidade é realmente uma grande hipocrisia de extremos. Joey (RIP) TOP DEMAIS, Jay fera demais e Eloy muito fodaaaaa
@vladtheimpaler7878
@vladtheimpaler7878 6 ай бұрын
Jay was not a replacement, just an inferior option. Eloy is a true successor to Joey.
@fr0zeNstriKe
@fr0zeNstriKe 6 ай бұрын
​@@vladtheimpaler7878just got drummer of the year multiple time but yeah inferior 😂
@Maggot377
@Maggot377 6 ай бұрын
Each of them played it in their own unique way, but don’t forget that Joey created this groove
@Jasonxknot
@Jasonxknot 6 ай бұрын
Groove. That's the word I was looking for. Joey definitely had that groove. He was the only one out of the 3 that you can feel that groove. He was feeling that song with his soul. Jay was playing too fast and looked like he was struggling. Eloy was amazing, but to me it seems like he's focusing on perfection. Makes sense since it was one of his first shows with the band. I bet a year from now he's going to have that groove with it that Joey had.
@marceloferreira153
@marceloferreira153 6 ай бұрын
Imagina se fosse o Eloy que tivesse criado? Mais joy e encrivel
@Nicktolias
@Nicktolias 6 ай бұрын
If you didn't "see" this performance, only heard it as isolated drum tracks, Eloy is much more tasty and groovy, his ghost notes make it feel so full. This audio of Eloy wasn't even going through the soundboard!
@jacobdesmond2479
@jacobdesmond2479 6 ай бұрын
@@Jasonxknotthere’s no way u just said Eloy doesn’t have the groove, did you even listen to it?
@Jasonxknot
@Jasonxknot 6 ай бұрын
@jacobdesmond2479 Yeah, I did listen to it. My comment wouldn't make any sense if I didnt. Did you listen to it? It's pretty apparent that Joey is playing with feeling and soul and Eloy is trying to be as precise as possible. Maybe you have to be a musician to hear it and maybe you arent one, but there's a slight difference there. You can not only hear it, you cant see as well. Joey has a groove to it that the others dont. Eloy just started performing live with him. Give him a year and he's going to be playing this as if he wrote it. There's always a difference between the person who wrote it vs the person who's trying to play it.
@RenBobbins
@RenBobbins 6 ай бұрын
Eloy is a savage, but Joey is the originator of the part, and he wrote some of the best drum books metal has ever seen.
@drope-14
@drope-14 6 ай бұрын
wait for those to come. Eloy Era
@Akercaleb2017
@Akercaleb2017 5 ай бұрын
All 3 of these men are great drummers. They all deserve respect for the contribution they gave or are giving to the band.
@pareanoapicard8079
@pareanoapicard8079 6 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who think that the next Slipknot's album with Eloy will be INSANE !? Can't wait !
@puppetmaster8551
@puppetmaster8551 6 ай бұрын
Eloy rules he’s a fantastic drummer but as far as writing drums in slipknot I don’t think he’ll ever match the awesome drums Joey wrote even if they’re more technically impressive. Jay’s writing on we are not your kind was pretty damn great too so if Eloy writes drums that sound as good on record as those I’ll be happy. Live he’ll most likely go down as the best drummer in slipknot just because I think he’ll consistently play the drums at the right tempo all the time, Joey is an absolute legend but there were alot of times back in the day where he’d be rushing and playing the drums too fast which would speed the songs up a bunch. he’ll likely always be unmatched on record tho because of how iconic his drums in slipknot were.
@mau9175
@mau9175 6 ай бұрын
@@puppetmaster8551 just listen to "Quadra", the Sepultura album composed by Eloy. if you're a drummer or does know the very minimum of drumming, you'll probably change your mind on that. it doesn't have to be a competition, but eloy is a great composer.
@NotDeluded
@NotDeluded 6 ай бұрын
I reckon (hope) it'll be as hardcore as IOWA.
@Adixon5
@Adixon5 4 ай бұрын
Doubt it. The band that made the earlier records is no more. The rage is gone
@FumBingerer
@FumBingerer 3 ай бұрын
@@NotDeludedpeople say this every album cycle hahaha. They were like 28, far from wealthy and fucked up on drugs. They’re now rich, old, comfy and theatrical. There’s no way.
@BagsNBags
@BagsNBags 6 ай бұрын
Eloy casually allowed Slipknot to join his band.
@inalingthedead
@inalingthedead 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@RestNPeaceBozo
@RestNPeaceBozo Ай бұрын
Congrats on your autism!
@marcuskrueger2965
@marcuskrueger2965 6 ай бұрын
The way each one plays is unique... But Joey and Eloy are superhumans
@jkorkea
@jkorkea 6 ай бұрын
all are tbh
@puppetmaster8551
@puppetmaster8551 6 ай бұрын
Joey is a legend and an OG and he gets all the props in the world for writing it which matters the most but he also would speed up the tempo pretty often, Jay wouldn’t do it as often imo and Eloy likely won’t ever rush it unless intentional. That being said I doubt anyone will ever write better drums for slipknot than Joey, his drum parts were legendary, I do think Jay’s drums on we are not your kind were really awesome tho so if Eloy writes drums as good as those I’ll be really happy, live he’s likely the best of them but we will just have to wait and see what his written drums for them sound like
@marcuskrueger2965
@marcuskrueger2965 6 ай бұрын
@@puppetmaster8551 Yes, that's quiet the thing. I love Eloy's drumming for his instrumental duo and for Sepultura, but we gotta see how this is gonna work with Slipknot. Joey kept mastering awesome grooves that were easily digested when he got another bands, like Scar the Martyr, Sinsaenum and VIMIC
@puppetmaster8551
@puppetmaster8551 6 ай бұрын
@@marcuskrueger2965 ya forsure, I’m definitely very interested in hearing drums Eloy writes in slipknot, definitely most what I’m looking forward to when it comes to new slipknot, really high bar tho with Joey’s amazing drums in slipknot and even Jay on we are not your kind was pretty damn great.
@mikedownen3962
@mikedownen3962 4 ай бұрын
Once Max and Igor left the band it was over in '96
@rafaelricharddd
@rafaelricharddd 7 ай бұрын
eloy is an atomic bomb
@saw66690
@saw66690 6 ай бұрын
ананана
@Cooked_As
@Cooked_As 6 ай бұрын
Chuck Norris of metal
@404breno
@404breno 6 ай бұрын
Joey showed us which notes should be played but Eloy is showing us HOW those notes should be played... damn
@x_peixe_x
@x_peixe_x 6 ай бұрын
Perfect comment man!
@henriquejuliano8517
@henriquejuliano8517 6 ай бұрын
Brilhante
@moisesluciana9257
@moisesluciana9257 6 ай бұрын
@@henriquejuliano8517,Joey Jordison o melhor.
@YuriHisokaa
@YuriHisokaa 6 ай бұрын
And Jay how not to play
@schopenhauer5427
@schopenhauer5427 6 ай бұрын
​@@YuriHisokaadisagree. Jay did a great job, just not of the same quality
@MaxwellSmart21
@MaxwellSmart21 6 ай бұрын
Eloy is the only one who respects the times of the original tracks, metronome man 🤘🤘
@marcusking8507
@marcusking8507 6 ай бұрын
He's also the grooviest drummer of the three.
@hell4punk
@hell4punk 6 ай бұрын
The other two previous drummers also respected the tempo, at least in these clips. They played all the same. The only difference between them is the energy they put on it.
@MBCMSPR
@MBCMSPR 6 ай бұрын
@@hell4punkno definetely not. eloy pretty much played like joey, but some added ghost notes and hits harder. jay had inconcistent tempo, tried covering up poor double bass stamina with obnoxious amount of fills, sloppy playing and uses triggers because of poor stamina and power. joey and eloy are wayy out of his league. jay sure can drum, but there's definetely room for improvement.
@brunomunoz467
@brunomunoz467 6 ай бұрын
​@@MBCMSPR you totally forget that Joey also used triggers, and Jay was way better than Joey was during the AHIG years of slipknot (mostly because of joey sickness but still). But Eloy is 100% the best one of the 3
@MBCMSPR
@MBCMSPR 6 ай бұрын
@@brunomunoz467 right. but earlier, before his sickness and before he triggered his drumset, he was a beast. i'll admit that eloy is better; on a technical level atleast. but jay is far from joey in his prime. FAR. i'd say jay is a pretty solid writer and making music. but on a technical level, he's not even good. he lacks on so many departments, it's actually a shame he even joined slipknot. really hope they do some heavy shit with eloy though. i swear if they make like a grey chapter album with eloy, i'm gonna be so disappointed lol
@chrisdakers3688
@chrisdakers3688 6 ай бұрын
Joey's movement was just effortless.
@DrippUP
@DrippUP 4 ай бұрын
thats what i notice the most is that for Joey he just moves different...almost like hes not even trying - in a good way.
@pepopulos
@pepopulos 4 ай бұрын
Joey's doing it calmy and smoothly, Jay added some slightly different techniques (he's flamming more, etc.), Eloy is going absolutely nuts into it, his movements aren't as smooth, yes, but he still retains the precision, even whilst absolutely denolishing the drumkit
@ericfrossardcarvalho7505
@ericfrossardcarvalho7505 7 ай бұрын
I respect a lot both other drummers but I really like Eloy because we can hear every single note played by him.
@jason_odonnell_music
@jason_odonnell_music 6 ай бұрын
You can hear every note because his cam is the only one with the drums isolated like that. Lol😂
@TheMetalFreshTiger
@TheMetalFreshTiger 6 ай бұрын
In this way you’re liking how the video has been recorded… not the actual drummer
@edgardelcid8425
@edgardelcid8425 6 ай бұрын
Eloy can play as fast but hit a Lot harder, one of a kind, all of them are great tho
@JuanTwoThreeeeeee
@JuanTwoThreeeeeee 6 ай бұрын
Even outside of Eloy’s drum cam on the regular concert videos, it’s clear as day that he his hitting every note on the proper flow/timing
@ericfrossardcarvalho7505
@ericfrossardcarvalho7505 6 ай бұрын
Please check Jays cam that the notes he is playing it not well played mixing the sounds in a bad way. Pay attention to the fills. I am not talking about the quality of the sound.
@Pandamorey
@Pandamorey 6 ай бұрын
There is no Jay or Eloy without Joey. Respect the goat 🐐
@carlosdelgado6897
@carlosdelgado6897 5 ай бұрын
Was the GOAT that’s past this moment on its Eloy time you will hear it
@mikedownen3962
@mikedownen3962 4 ай бұрын
You have to respect the original band member because he's the one that came up with half the songs and they want to disrespect him That's a shame on them
@LuxferoBR
@LuxferoBR 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Eloy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joey
@LuxferoBR
@LuxferoBR 4 ай бұрын
There is no Jay without Iggor Cavallera / Sepultura & groove/tribal metal
@Pandamorey
@Pandamorey 4 ай бұрын
@LuxferoBR exactly the point I was trying to make, thank you!
@xoxo666
@xoxo666 6 ай бұрын
As a non-drummer's opinion: Joey: The creator, the goat, no Jay or Eloy without Joey Jay: Fast (imo, the reason he was out and maybe attitude but only the band can tell). Clearly puts a punk / hardcore vibe and they're no denying Jay's love for that genre. Eloy: Precision, Strong, OG tempo
@jkorkea
@jkorkea 6 ай бұрын
speed can't be the reason lol, Jay can play the speed they want to play, he's a professional drummer
@xoxo666
@xoxo666 6 ай бұрын
@@jkorkea From what I read on Reddit (unchecked facts of course), drum tech said he struggled live. The reason I'm saying speed is the problem is I read (once again, unproved) is a source of frustration for the others who must keep up to his speed and Corey who's 50 and still a beast, it's probably demanding a lot for him as well as the guitar players. Also, I see a lot of comments about Eloy playing the right tempo of the original songs and songs are heavier during breakdown when played at slower tempo so it just shows Jay plays faster. Don't get me wrong, I love Jay and he got me back into Slipknot in 2014 and I thought a young guy could give the energy back to the band.
@blacksaturn_
@blacksaturn_ 6 ай бұрын
​@@xoxo666 I don't think speed is the reason, if it really was he could have just played with a metronome and if it really was, he would have been out YEARS ago. I believe someone in Slipknot stated that they purposefully play songs faster during live shows because it gives them a more "raw" feeling and also because it allows them to have a longer setlist and hype the crowd better. I saw them in Verona in 2022 and I can say that NO ONE was struggling there to follow Jay. To each their own: Joey was the creator and who inspired me to pick a drumset and beat the living shit out of it for the past 10 years or so (I am not that great sigh). Jay had that "mojo" that gave a truly unique feeling to each song he played live, even if it wasn't note for note (for which I couldn't care less, I care about the music in general, not the parts), even if it wasn't at perfect tempo (neither Joey was! just go listen to Vol. 3, you can hear the best his fluctuations in "Pulse Of The Maggots"). Eloy has incredibile power, precision and feeling. I want to hear more of him in Slipknot. All three are incredible drummers, who had (and have) one of the most difficult roles in the music industry (it isn't exactly easy to be Slipknot's drummer) and all three should be credited for what they've done and will do.
@xoxo666
@xoxo666 6 ай бұрын
@@blacksaturn_ I get what you mean! And I feel you man! Joey inspired me in some weird way. I thought for a short guy, he's one badass MF! The weird dance that he does etc! Never really played drums but I would, he's be my #1 inspiration. I stopped listening to Slipknot around 2007 because I discovered the hardcore/deathcore scene. I had tears when I heard Joey passed and I was in sushi restaurant parking lot haha. Jay: I was intrigued by that young guy! I thought he was awesome and gave life back to Slipknot along with V-Man! I started listening to Slipknot with .5 The Gray Chapter Eloy: Although I'm sad Jay is gone, the comments I saw for Eloy kind of hyped me up! But I gotta admit I never heard anything about him when he was in Sepultura. Can't wait to see what he will bring!
@blacksaturn_
@blacksaturn_ 6 ай бұрын
@@xoxo666 glad you get me hahahah! I didn't hear much from Eloy either but what I heard absolutely blew me away at the time, I'm talking about "Isolation" by Sepultura, if you haven't go watch the Behind The Scenes and the playthrough by Eloy, the sheer power and creativity he puts behind the kit is faboulous, I guess the creativity comes from the fact that he's Brazilian and Brazilian music (which is INSANELY HARD to play on drums) is very different from typical western music. I hope we'll get not just heavier records but more creative ones, TESF felt overall stale and uninspired...
@lukaspersson447
@lukaspersson447 6 ай бұрын
Joey seems almost unbothered and hit hard as hell without even breaking a sweat. Plus he wrote this beat so I don't think that he ever felt like he had something to prove. Watching Jay now after Eloy took over makes it very very clear why Jay was replaced. Eloy is a hard hitting insanely good timing plus he adds the little extra magic and power using incredible ghost notes. It's very apparent in Eloys drumming that he looked up to Joey as a kid, like a lot of metal drummers did. I like to think that Joey is proud of Slipknots decision to honor his legacy with Eloy. Edit: Man.. This comment section seems to be 12 year olds.. Joey has been the one who put all of us old guys on to slipknot in the first place. The lyrics are shit and guitars is just buried of noice. Slipknot became famous with the phrase “have you heard of Joey Jordison?”. Stop being pathetic kids. Eloy is the best but Joey is legend.
@pedrocamargo6136
@pedrocamargo6136 6 ай бұрын
Eloy has been a Slipknot fan since he was a teenager, it's obvious that he looks up to Joey, and playing with Slipknot is a dream come true for him.
@jcmo187
@jcmo187 6 ай бұрын
Joey was a hell of a drum line writer. One thing he was NOT was a hard hitter. He hit very, very lightly. The "booming" you heard from his drumming was because of triggers.
@marcusking8507
@marcusking8507 6 ай бұрын
​@@jcmo187His ace in the pack was speed, as opposed to power. You can't do the rolls he could on the snare by being a caveman.
@jcmo187
@jcmo187 6 ай бұрын
@@marcusking8507 except Eloy does. I've been a huge fan of him for years. He's just as fast if not faster than Joey and much more precise. Joey's biggest strength was writing. His drum parts are super rememberable. You can name a bunch of his songs just from the drums.
@marcusking8507
@marcusking8507 6 ай бұрын
@@jcmo187 Joey had that Dave Lombardo-esque "falling down the stairs" feel to his playing, like it was all about to fall apart at any moment. I'm still wowed by some of his playing on Iowa, for instance. Eloy is pretty damn impressive though, and he loves ghost notes, which are always, always a plus with me.
@rikkiwilliams720
@rikkiwilliams720 6 ай бұрын
The first time I saw Eloy Casagrande with Slipknot, I was blown away by his playing. Eloy is the perfect drummer for Slipknot and I'm so glad he's in Slipknot. He is doing a great job!!!
@rerolf5007
@rerolf5007 6 ай бұрын
Eloy is the only one that uses ghost notes! Which makes the song way better, in my opinion!
@or1on89
@or1on89 6 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't. I honestly think these ghost notes kill the brutality of the original piece which was ment to be a wall of sound. This is NuMetal, not jazz.
@Scottysevins
@Scottysevins 6 ай бұрын
Haha he’s the only one powerful enough to be able to hear it over the band. No disrespect to Joey as he’s the godfather
@YTCortes
@YTCortes 6 ай бұрын
@@or1on89 groove metal
@ThreeFortySeven
@ThreeFortySeven 6 ай бұрын
I caught that too. Interesting choice.
@captainDL3
@captainDL3 6 ай бұрын
Joey was playing them too, but you cant hear it because his velocity is more like ghost notes in a Toto song. Eloy hits hard AF & you can hear his ghosts notes. Weinberg is good….but his parts lack dynamic. They all melt together & theres no punctuation between riffs.
@davidalmeida9171
@davidalmeida9171 7 ай бұрын
All respect for Joey & Jay, but Eloy, man, this guy is so freaking special, for me he’s top 1 drummer of the world at all time 🔥 🔥🔥
@turbomunch
@turbomunch 6 ай бұрын
Joey wrote the drum beat ffs. Show something they create. Imitators.
@pethuretto2844
@pethuretto2844 6 ай бұрын
@@turbomunch search sepultura drum riffs bro lol
@EloyBushida
@EloyBushida 6 ай бұрын
@@turbomunch Listen to Quadra, Eloy is an amazing composer as well as player. Lars wrote Dyers Eve drum parts, but he can't fucking play them.
@schopenhauer5427
@schopenhauer5427 6 ай бұрын
​@@turbomunchboth Eloy and Jay created great drum pieces
@MunkeyBeans1082
@MunkeyBeans1082 6 ай бұрын
Joey makes it look easier. He also wrote everything. He's the embodiment of the band
@SigurdFlaatten
@SigurdFlaatten 6 ай бұрын
Eloy doing the blasts with rimshots is just out of this world. Excited to see them live with him - I think it'll be back to the Joey days of energy with the breakdowns being SO hard and on the OG pace
@paulobarrosogt9322
@paulobarrosogt9322 6 ай бұрын
Não tem como, Eloy destrói a bateria como se não houvesse amanhã ave Maria!
@nick_coles_art
@nick_coles_art 6 ай бұрын
Eloys ghost notes 😍. He's brutal, clean and groovy all at the same time. What a beast. Bring on their new album. I'm gonna blow my speakers dude.
@soul_less_23
@soul_less_23 6 ай бұрын
Joey made it looks easy, Jay made it sounds easy, Eloy just never easy. Love them all, but for some reason, I love Jay's kicks.
@carlosdelgado6897
@carlosdelgado6897 5 ай бұрын
Joey seems made it easy? He was a great drummer bo doubt but if you can’t see can’t hear the power speed precision of Eloy the effortless he and with that power and not see his greatness as the best drummer atm perhaps OF ALL TIME then you are blind and deft
@soul_less_23
@soul_less_23 5 ай бұрын
@@carlosdelgado6897 you don't understand don't you sweetie. i said looks easy. looks easy because he was a good drummer and his skill just beyond everyone else. Jay drum line more simple but precise. and eloy are the hardcore beater. Did i said Joey/jay/eloy suck? read and understand it properly before you think i'm wrong. have a nice day.
@carlosdelgado6897
@carlosdelgado6897 5 ай бұрын
@@soul_less_23 no seems you don’t want to see the reality Eloy is a freak of nature Also I didn’t say any of them sucks learn to read Eloy it’s stratosphere way above than those 2
@gogreensolutionsllc6904
@gogreensolutionsllc6904 Ай бұрын
Jays kicks are triggers. They sound clean because of samples attached to the trigger. Helps clean up any trip ups in the playing. Not discrediting him, just how some players prefer
@andrebatalha3384
@andrebatalha3384 6 ай бұрын
Eloy has the sauce😂
@michaelmoraniii3825
@michaelmoraniii3825 6 ай бұрын
Ayooo
@missenceladus
@missenceladus 2 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA agree
@VileSinner666
@VileSinner666 6 ай бұрын
Joey wrote the song, and plays is fabulously of course. Jay plays it fast, and I like a lot of the extra fills he adds. Eloy plays fast and hard. All 3 brought something new to the song.
@Willtz-88
@Willtz-88 6 ай бұрын
he adds extra fills because he doesn't have the stamina to keep the song the way it should be played.
@VileSinner666
@VileSinner666 6 ай бұрын
@Lady_Boy_ All depends on the song. I've seen him play Me Inside, and Metabolic without adding extra fills. Even Joey did the same thing from time to time. Part of Slipknot's charm bro. Eloy even adds extra fills to songs.
@Willtz-88
@Willtz-88 6 ай бұрын
@@VileSinner666 ok
@MarkJusti
@MarkJusti 6 ай бұрын
He adds extra fills so he can hide the sloppiness of his double bass. I’ve seen his version of Disasterpieces whole and he was all over the place. No wonder Slipknot kicked him out.
@VileSinner666
@VileSinner666 6 ай бұрын
@MarkJusti Jay's never been perfect at double bass, no doubt about it. He has good days and bad days. Same with Joey. Sometimes he can nail it, other times he does fills to hide it. It's all about being human.
@gabrielamendes1381
@gabrielamendes1381 7 ай бұрын
Eloy sendo um ogro na batera, mas da melhor forma possível! A agressividade traz bastante presença de palco
@TTTspeedcubing
@TTTspeedcubing 5 ай бұрын
Eloy is an amazing drummer, one of the best, but Joey is the best drummer in history and no one can replace him. Rest in peace, legend 🙏🙏🙏
@Xposthmous
@Xposthmous 5 ай бұрын
Neil Peart is the greatest drummer in history. Don't forget that.
@filipepaivazoega3669
@filipepaivazoega3669 6 ай бұрын
Eloy doesn't need a metronome. Metronome needs Eloy.
@clovenzpsn8811
@clovenzpsn8811 6 ай бұрын
This comment was better the first time it was used in other Eloy videos🙄
@filipepaivazoega3669
@filipepaivazoega3669 6 ай бұрын
@@clovenzpsn8811 Like I care how triggered you are by that comment, lmao
@36SOAD817HMC
@36SOAD817HMC 6 ай бұрын
all respects to joey . jay is way to casual with it . eloy just brings everything back to life
@GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n
@GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n 6 ай бұрын
That ghost note..... Eloy is a beast
@eriicgiese
@eriicgiese 6 ай бұрын
What it means "ghost notes"?
@GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n
@GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n 6 ай бұрын
@@eriicgiese the weak note between the strong note on the snare at minute 2:33 you can hear it better
@GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n
@GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n 6 ай бұрын
@@eriicgiese he uses this technique while maintaining intensity. this is quite challenging
@magiic641121
@magiic641121 2 ай бұрын
Something about Joey playing is so memorizing, I love all 3 but man, Joey takes the cake for me. R.I.P to my GOAT
@HellRag3
@HellRag3 6 ай бұрын
All of them are awesome. All of them has their own style. Joey was a creator of this tracks. Jay was super-technique, and Eloy is also cool. There is no “better and worse “. Slipknot doesn’t choose bad drummers. Slipknot’s drummers always are more than humans. Respect each of them.
@Ressoante
@Ressoante 6 ай бұрын
Jay 🔥🔥👋👋 Joey 🔥🔥🔥👋👋👋 Eloy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆👋👋👋👋👋
@thetiger7474
@thetiger7474 6 ай бұрын
Aside from drumming skills, I think Joey's performance was well designed, including headbanging, stick tricks, body movements, etc. He mixed those moves naturally into his drumming. He must have spent time deliberately practicing those moves to make them so natural while playing that kind of high-level drumming. If you play drums, you know how hard it is to do some cool shit and play difficult notes at the same time. In a way you can even say that the "difficult" songs are easy enough for him to do those shit.
@bmjames
@bmjames 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a drummer but Joey gave the impression of being very in control of his body movements whereas Jay seems to need to move more just to get around the kit. Eloy is less theatrical than Joey, more raw power, still extremely controlled to an almost superhuman level of consistency.
@richardm3780
@richardm3780 6 ай бұрын
This made me audibly say, "wow" ... thank you for this comparison. 3 different styles, Joey will always be the goat... but Eloy has sure lived up to the task...exceedingly.
@danglesnipecelly13
@danglesnipecelly13 6 ай бұрын
Eloy is something else! Unreal power! His timing is so on fckn point.
@ShaxrizodaTanukulova
@ShaxrizodaTanukulova 5 ай бұрын
JOEY: LOVE HIS EVERYTHING JAY: LOVE HIS PERSONALITY ELOY: LOVE HIS TALENT
@marc-antoineethier1862
@marc-antoineethier1862 6 ай бұрын
I know you guys love Eloy but for me Joey was the spirit of Slipknot . He was also the underdog in the early 2000’s and now for me he is the goat !!!!
@DiegoToy
@DiegoToy 6 ай бұрын
you're right, Joey was the spirit of the band. Great technical drummers can play and, eventually improve the songs, but Joey was original. Now we have to wait for new stuff to see how Eloy will increase the Slipknot legacy
@marc-antoineethier1862
@marc-antoineethier1862 6 ай бұрын
@@DiegoToy 2024 for new songs ? Hope so !!
@missenceladus
@missenceladus 2 ай бұрын
Joey is the creator, thr mentor, thr creative mind. It's impossible not to like him. But Eloy is valuing Joey's legacy.
@phirus646
@phirus646 5 ай бұрын
I was physically exhausted just from watching. Just imagine playing a whole set with that intensity 🤯
@lucasyaguinuma4624
@lucasyaguinuma4624 6 ай бұрын
Joey LEGEND, Eloy....... It leaves me speechless to describe what it caused in our minds as Slipknot fans!
@v-x-n-999
@v-x-n-999 5 ай бұрын
Eloy is such a power house! He brings those grooves to life with precision and power!
@Abinaraone
@Abinaraone 6 ай бұрын
Eloy with that tasty ghost notes 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Panoras81
@Panoras81 5 ай бұрын
I’m sure that many drummers may can play all this wonderful slipknot songs but only one has created all their grooves. RIP Joey.
@Roblecitoboulder
@Roblecitoboulder 6 ай бұрын
Joey Jordison: espectáculo, creador, pegada, tempo bien, técnicamente bueno. Jay: apasionado, tempo irregular, desequilibrado en la dinámica de los golpes. Eloy: espectacular, pegada uniforme y fuerte, dominio y definición absoluta de las ghost notes, tempo perfecto, hace estar a la banda en su sitio, técnicamente de otro planeta.
@baiacudriver
@baiacudriver 6 ай бұрын
Jay plays the drums drunk
@momenmazen7994
@momenmazen7994 6 ай бұрын
Bro watching joey is like watching a legend at his prime like watching aryton Senna's race i cant get enough of Joey's performance at the breakdown moment ❤❤
@vampireslumberpartyTV
@vampireslumberpartyTV 6 ай бұрын
eloy's drumming is just insane
@mingotower123
@mingotower123 5 ай бұрын
Yes Joey and Jay are great drummers, but the Energy that Eloy plays with is just what any band needs! Eloy Is a Complete drumming Beast!!!
@marcusking8507
@marcusking8507 6 ай бұрын
Eloy's ghost notes on the snare are fucking tasty.
@JoeyJordisonn
@JoeyJordisonn 6 ай бұрын
Its an honor to have Eloy in slipknot ❤ his energy is everything!
@Endodont
@Endodont 6 ай бұрын
Eloy is so clean and powerful
@rynoriffs1984
@rynoriffs1984 6 ай бұрын
ELOY BEATS THOSE DRUMS LIKE THEY MURDERED HIS FAMILY. THE BPM CONTROL, FEEL, POWER, SPEED AND BRUTALITY IS ALL ON DISPLAY, ELOY=BEAST ❤🤘🏽
@Jasonxknot
@Jasonxknot 6 ай бұрын
Jay looks like he's struggling the entire time. Joey and Eloy make it look effortless. One thing you need to factor in is Eloy has only performed live with Slipknot a few times. He's just going to get better with every performance.
@iponkers666
@iponkers666 6 ай бұрын
Joey is the best because he create this style..and he is first drummer when Slipknot famous carrier..we loved because Joey the Legend Slipknot drummer...
@romariojones46
@romariojones46 7 ай бұрын
Eloy 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🔥
@charlesscott2918
@charlesscott2918 6 ай бұрын
If It Wasn't For Joey Jordison !! There Wouldn't Be A Slipknot !! Jay Weinberg And Eloy Casagrande Are Great Drummers In Their Own Way !! R.I.P Joey Jordison 😢🕊🦅🏞🇦🇷🙏🏽🤟🏾💙♾️🥁🎼
@olivierboisnard5601
@olivierboisnard5601 6 ай бұрын
Could you put the soundtrack over Eloy drum cam ?
@lucasyaguinuma4624
@lucasyaguinuma4624 6 ай бұрын
The desire to listen to the band with Eloy is so great that it seems that I met Slipknot now in 2024
@MarkJusti
@MarkJusti 6 ай бұрын
you can see that Jay is struggling with keeping the pace of the double bass parts so that’s why he replaces them with fills in the end. 😂
@CREA9TURE
@CREA9TURE 6 ай бұрын
So bad. He's all over the place
@ashleighwilson3637
@ashleighwilson3637 6 ай бұрын
And here we are in the comments haha
@suominekru476
@suominekru476 6 ай бұрын
this is really good rage bait
@nickbornahell2118
@nickbornahell2118 6 ай бұрын
Joey is a one! The only! He was the embodiment of sincerity, of desperate humanity! 🤘♾️🕊️
@MrLustor
@MrLustor 6 ай бұрын
Jay's tempo is messed up. I noticed that from the begging but everyone seemed to be in denial. Now that I hear Eloy's playing I guess I wasn't that crazy!
@TerryGreat-c6p
@TerryGreat-c6p 6 ай бұрын
Yeah jay always played most of the songs to fast, therefore speeding up the rest of the band, making the song sound rushed compared to clean
@morganneher8643
@morganneher8643 6 ай бұрын
One thing that is huge is that Joey was there and a part of the songwriting so, he is in those songs fully 🔥
@Medievalfan94
@Medievalfan94 6 ай бұрын
Minus points on Eloy for not having long hair to whirl around and a mask that looks like from a toyshop.
@dickyadler3959
@dickyadler3959 6 ай бұрын
maybe next event he will wear a wig 😂🤣
@alquimiavibracional
@alquimiavibracional 6 ай бұрын
​@@dickyadler3959 ou talvez no próximo comentário, ele se abstenha
@MBCMSPR
@MBCMSPR 6 ай бұрын
maybe he'll join corey and tortilla on dreads lol
@GuilhermeTeixeira
@GuilhermeTeixeira 6 ай бұрын
O verdadeiro metal escandinavo não aceita os carecas
@Medievalfan94
@Medievalfan94 6 ай бұрын
@@GuilhermeTeixeira Slipknot no son de scandinavia sino de Iowa
@harveysengersmusic247
@harveysengersmusic247 5 ай бұрын
Every drummer knows: The harder you hit the harder it is to make it sound tight. This is a HUGE reason why Eloys work is so damn good.
@rafaeldossantostrespach1802
@rafaeldossantostrespach1802 6 ай бұрын
Eu amo Joey mas o Eloy mi surpreendeu só do Eloy ❤❤❤❤ e amo Slipknot
@marksummers666
@marksummers666 6 ай бұрын
Each one of them crushed it, nothing but respect to all three. But man this new Eloy era is exciting
@buitenzorg8169
@buitenzorg8169 6 ай бұрын
NO ONE CAN BEAT THE ORIGINAL -JOEY 🤟
@marcioangst893
@marcioangst893 6 ай бұрын
Eloy does not overcome, but honors the legacy
@carlosdelgado6897
@carlosdelgado6897 5 ай бұрын
Records meant to be broken he was the original and props to him but oh man Eloy it’s a freak of nature
@buitenzorg8169
@buitenzorg8169 5 ай бұрын
​@@carlosdelgado6897 Lol joey play with soul, his play remain in our memory, Eloy just play Joey part with robotic sound 🤣
@carlosdelgado6897
@carlosdelgado6897 5 ай бұрын
@@buitenzorg8169 say whatever you want the reality it’s only 1 Joey it’s the past great drummer but the better of the 2 it’s Eloy plain and simple
@Ultradocker
@Ultradocker 4 ай бұрын
@@carlosdelgado6897 he is good, but he's playing covers. Joey wrote all these songs.
@TheVexdOne
@TheVexdOne 7 ай бұрын
What a monster!
@pablosrf3881
@pablosrf3881 6 ай бұрын
Jay varies the timing of his hits too much in comparison to Joey and Eloy. Joey has an amazing timing but Eloy beats him in both timing, precision and dynamics (or should I say strenght?).
@Implicit_Truth
@Implicit_Truth 6 ай бұрын
Eloy is a better drummer in practical terms. Joey however has the benefit of having written so much iconic music and was himself also an amazing drummer when he was healthy. So while I think Eloy is the better drummer, I don't think he's the better musician.
@pablosrf3881
@pablosrf3881 6 ай бұрын
​@@Implicit_Truth Eloy is an increadible composer. He has mastered a lot of drumming styles. I belive that in the next slipknot album if he has space to let his creativity out then he will prove his name next to Joey's composition.
@MBCMSPR
@MBCMSPR 6 ай бұрын
@@pablosrf3881i hope that slipknot will make heavy shit with eloy though. i've heard rumours about the new album being really different from all the others. idk what to expect. i really hope they'll make something heavy. can't get a drummer like eloy and make another grey chapter album
@p00piter
@p00piter 6 ай бұрын
Your should say, Strength. Not strenght
@ctilson176
@ctilson176 6 ай бұрын
I’ve always felt that even under the mask, Joey was calm and even zen-like when playing. Jay being kicked out was so heartbreaking, especially because it was his genuine dream from childhood to be in Slipknot. Eloy…damn! What else can be said that hasn’t been said 1,000 times before? The guy hits hard as f***, each note is heard distinctly in an unreal sort of way.
@Sanca011Pizzaria
@Sanca011Pizzaria 6 ай бұрын
eloy is next lvl
@chrisgsauce
@chrisgsauce 6 ай бұрын
Eloy's fills sound so damn tight and clean!
@turbomunch
@turbomunch 6 ай бұрын
Joey all day.
@Madzguy007
@Madzguy007 6 ай бұрын
1st - Joey: God 2nd - Eloy: Impressive with brazilian twist 10th: Jay: Okay Drummer
@lucasvalotto
@lucasvalotto 6 ай бұрын
my boy eloy is just built different
@Mr.Goldbar
@Mr.Goldbar 6 ай бұрын
Joey wrote these goat tier parts, Jay performs them pretty competantly but Eloy builds up on them and just performs it like an absolute beast!
@dianis610
@dianis610 6 ай бұрын
La técnica de Eloy y su precisión son impresionantes.
@pawall3deller468
@pawall3deller468 6 ай бұрын
He has no technique, this technique is called the gorilla found a hammer and notes.
@dianis610
@dianis610 6 ай бұрын
@@pawall3deller468 ah, ok. 🙄
@JulesBox
@JulesBox 6 ай бұрын
Love Eloy's fidelity to the original track while adding his signature Brazilian groove, love Jay's dirty and punkier groove and cymbal/toms creativity but man, Joey was something out of this world. His way of composing drum parts was something so unique, he was a man with a rough mind set and you can tell by his music, that's what's missing with Slipknot and it's something you just can't replace. Jay and Eloy speak through their instrument and their chops, Joey was one with the music.
@poisonedsprite6254
@poisonedsprite6254 6 ай бұрын
Joey will forever be #1, Eloy is only imitating what Joey wrote and did.
@BobbyBottleservice
@BobbyBottleservice 6 ай бұрын
but 100x more aggressive and accurate. joey hit like a pussy eloy's sticks go over his head every single strike and he's just as technical.
@ednaldopereira5592
@ednaldopereira5592 6 ай бұрын
Você está errado, Eloy está tocando o que Joey fez mil vezes melhor Total respeito ao Joey, mas ele era mais limitado que o Eloy
@MetallicOpeth
@MetallicOpeth 6 ай бұрын
"only". give him some props at least holy shit. he's paying tribute to the original sound and ideas, and playing it absolutely flawlessly. don't write it off as "only imitating"
@poisonedsprite6254
@poisonedsprite6254 6 ай бұрын
@@ednaldopereira5592 Sorry buddy, Joey can't hear you over the sound of his multi platinum records he wrote and performed on.
@buitenzorg8169
@buitenzorg8169 6 ай бұрын
💯 Eloy just lack of creativity
@shubhamchakraborty9272
@shubhamchakraborty9272 6 ай бұрын
i respect 3 of them , they are all great drummers, we are no one to judge them
@lucasandrey2534
@lucasandrey2534 6 ай бұрын
A comparação Eloy e joey só vai concluir quando o próximo CD for gravado pelo Eloy, por que é certeza comprovada que Eloy toca slipknot de olhos fechados, mas joey nunca tocaria sepultura como Eloy e isso é um fato
@andrelima7959
@andrelima7959 6 ай бұрын
discordo
@guilhermedepaula6865
@guilhermedepaula6865 6 ай бұрын
@@andrelima7959 De quê? kkkkk Que o Joey não tocaria as músicas do Sepultura? Não tocaria mesmo. Sepultura leva muito da música brasileira, gringo não tem essa referência. As músicas iam sair todas retas, sem pegada.
@KelwenSouza
@KelwenSouza 6 ай бұрын
Agora é esperar próximo CD (um single não adianta), pra ver se vai soar como Slipknot antigo, Slipknot new age ou 'Eloy e a galera', e se nos shows/anos seguintes vão continuar tocando 98% das músicas criadas com linhas de bateria do Joey.
@marcbr2585
@marcbr2585 6 ай бұрын
Não, isso não é um "fato" É apenas o teu pachequismo insano!
@matthewjames206
@matthewjames206 6 ай бұрын
All amazing drummers 🍻
@andre2boechat526
@andre2boechat526 6 ай бұрын
1:31 *INSANE TRANSITION*
@boost_jay
@boost_jay 6 ай бұрын
remember how small joey is and still hit so damn hard. We’re blessed eloy can now take the reigns
@BLuizHenrique
@BLuizHenrique 6 ай бұрын
Olha como o Eloy toca limpo! Cada nota fantasma, cada chute no bumbo... Tudo extremamente limpo e no tempo perfeito.
@theirishbandit7301
@theirishbandit7301 5 ай бұрын
Kind of puts tears in my eyes honestly
@rioborzeli147
@rioborzeli147 6 ай бұрын
ELOY all the way , Worlds top no 1 killer drummer today 2024
@Tommy_R
@Tommy_R 6 ай бұрын
All of them are amazing in their own way, but Eloy is one of a kind
@geissoncolonetti
@geissoncolonetti 6 ай бұрын
Vejo dois alunos disciplinados, jay e joey… eloy o professor.
@Maggot377
@Maggot377 6 ай бұрын
What students are you talking about? Joey created this groove
@jkorkea
@jkorkea 6 ай бұрын
Eloy fans are something else, saying Eloy would be the teacher when Joey was the pathfinder for this kinda drumming, sit the f down dude 😂
@never_say_my_name4629
@never_say_my_name4629 6 ай бұрын
Eloy não é professor cara, ele é um aluno que aprendeu muito bem, joey sempre sera eterno
@geissoncolonetti
@geissoncolonetti 6 ай бұрын
@@never_say_my_name4629 não estou me referindo ao criar e sim sobre tocar.
@ichewtoast111
@ichewtoast111 4 ай бұрын
Imagine all three drummers at the same time
@erakattack
@erakattack 4 ай бұрын
It'd be a nightmare because Jay would be compensating with fills and his tempo fluctuating within a range of 40 bpm
@saadesigner07
@saadesigner07 6 ай бұрын
Eloy plays like a caveman, and I kinda love it.
@Y-I-C-A
@Y-I-C-A 4 ай бұрын
The ghost notes of Eloy is so clean & INSANE!! DAMN!!
@АлексейПирогов-ц8ь
@АлексейПирогов-ц8ь 6 ай бұрын
Видео кайф, НО!!! Нельзя сравнивать мастерство или кто лучше сыграл, тот или иной трек, так как даже приравном мастерстве, у каждого последующего драмера есть возможность изучить материал предыдущего, доработать и сделать ещë лучше... По мне все великие,,, Всем удачи и драйва🤘
@teddydpaulagt
@teddydpaulagt 6 ай бұрын
O controle de Eloy em níveis sonoros é absurdo ,você consegue entender perfeitamente cada detalhe , ghost notes etc ! Um Groove sensacional e completo ! Era isso que faltava !
@xstatixtribalelectronicmus2787
@xstatixtribalelectronicmus2787 6 ай бұрын
🔥😮🔥‼️ELOY‼️🔥😮🔥
@streamspoart2671
@streamspoart2671 6 ай бұрын
If Joey played drum upside down, Eloy will playing drum while parachuting
6 ай бұрын
In only one word: ELOY.
@arkhaminmate1463
@arkhaminmate1463 16 күн бұрын
As much as i loved jay drumming and absolutely love Eloy but joey will forever be my slipknot drummer the guy was insane
@themechaniacal1558
@themechaniacal1558 6 ай бұрын
This really shouldn't be seen as a comparison of who is better, Joey wrote it, Eloy mastered it. They all three played the f*ck out of it.
@smars1161
@smars1161 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for someone to make this mix! 🔥
@x_peixe_x
@x_peixe_x 6 ай бұрын
Look, now I understand the flaws in Jay's double pedal!
@RenanPark1
@RenanPark1 6 ай бұрын
Com todo respeito aos demais mas JAMAIS vai existir algum baterista como Joey Jordison. O melhor e maior de todos os tempos e com a cara do Slipknot das antigas!! Saudades eternas!
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