*Why does God allow suffering?* What’s _your_ best answer?
@robertshriver83923 ай бұрын
Why do women abort babies? Have you ever seen the pain that babies go thru before they die, so my question is why?
@mangolunatic60213 ай бұрын
@@robertshriver8392 That doesn't answer the question, only provides another question to dismiss the first one.
@WhatWouldJesusThink3 ай бұрын
God, being good, cannot allow creatures that produce evil to exist without facing any consequences. Otherwise, He would be presently unjust. This explains suffering. He must also limit the duration of their existence. Otherwise, evil will exist forever with His permission. This explains death. Suffering & death are natural & fair consequences of our evil actions (murder, violence, deceit, hatred etc.). The first humans (Adam & Eve) faced these consequences as a result of their prideful disobedience. They then chose to have children, knowing they too would suffer and die (ironically, one killed the other). All parents since have made the same decision by their own free will to bring humans into the world, knowing they too would face these consequences. Yet, God has a day planned when all suffering and death will end. In the mean time, suffering and death bring God no pleasure. These are the necessary & just consequences of our evil, proving God to be good in every way! God bless!
@mangolunatic60212 ай бұрын
@@WhatWouldJesusThink I think a just and forgiving god would not punish but save all of those who have sinned. Not by faith but by his own goodness and ability to save all. After all, is it good parenting to watch as a child put a fork in a socket? Can god not put humans through all the tests and suffering and take all people to heaven as merciful to all. There is so much injustice to those who stood no chance of knowing the Christian god, such as infants who die or tribes that are segregated from the modern world, they stood no chance yet will supposedly suffer for eternity. Mercy is not to run people through a test and watching them suffer until they come pleaing for salvation.
@Michal.Ziecina2 ай бұрын
God does not allow anything on earth because God has given authority over the earth to man. Man chose to sin and thus brought the curse of sin upon the world. Jesus, in the parable of the vineyard, says that he has leased the Earth to us for a certain period of time, but has not imposed what we should sow on it. It is we who choose the seed to sow and we who reap the harvest. Either joy, love and peace - or sin and death with all its varieties.
@jdog5642Ай бұрын
Excellent material, beautifully presented and excellent production
@CarlDyck-o9w2 ай бұрын
The truth he teaches will be just as true 10,000 years from now as it is true today
@WhatWouldJesusThink2 ай бұрын
@@CarlDyck-o9w 100%
@ossiedunstan44192 ай бұрын
because of the ignorance of religion humanity will not be here in 50 years.
@CarlDyck-o9wАй бұрын
Truth never changes. Only fools think 🤔 that Truth changes. You will never cease to exist.. You will either spend in hell or heaven. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
@hyeminkwun9523Ай бұрын
Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father in Heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?' Then, I will declare to them solemnly, 'I NEVER KNEW YOU. Depart from Me, you evil doers (Matt 7:21-23).' I KNOW My sheep in My Only Fold (John 10:16, 27-28), My Only Church instituted on the Apostles (Matt 16:18-19, Rev 21:14) and sent to teach for salvation of souls until the end of the world (Matt 28:20). Many are called, but few are chosen (Matt 22:14).
@quintonsm2616Ай бұрын
@@CarlDyck-o9w the only criteria to enter a heaven is to believe something without evidence and become gullible. The only criteria to enter hell is to be a critical thinker and be reasonable.
@gabrielaorantes18762 ай бұрын
Thank you Prof. John for sharing GOD. I believe we are now living in the last days as what the Holy Bible says... New Living Translation "Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires." 2Peter 3:3 I pray that GOD will lead you to the saving knowledge of HIS GRACE.
@WhatWouldJesusThink2 ай бұрын
@@gabrielaorantes1876 Amen! 🙂
@petersanmiguel1164Ай бұрын
It’s good to bring in the Bible and the gospel when talking about whether God exists.
@bobwilkinson2008Ай бұрын
Indeed, read the bible, become atheist
@Vladimir_MikhailenkoАй бұрын
hallelujah
@petersanmiguel1164Ай бұрын
Also, I think important to mention as proof of God and the gospel is the transforming power of the Holy Spirit who comes to live inside the believer when they are born again - born of the Spirit. See the Gospel of John.
@quintonsm2616Ай бұрын
Who wrote the gospels?
@ChristsCrucifixionWitnessMinisАй бұрын
@@quintonsm2616Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
@quintonsm2616Ай бұрын
@ChristsCrucifixionWitnessMinis they are attributed to those people as per church tradition but they are unsigned making them anonymous.
@ChristsCrucifixionWitnessMinisАй бұрын
@@quintonsm2616 as I said you're so intellectually dishonest, it's scary. Rather than commenting from ignorance go do some research and comment when you have evidence for your delusion, and don't forget to sign any single piece of paper that you right, including but not limited to notes. Hypocrite and viper! Instead of researching you're coming just with personal opinions.
@annekeohane8895Ай бұрын
Great
@stevecoddington731924 күн бұрын
Science means (=) to know (knowledge). Jesus said KNOW the truth (John 8:32). So, Jesus was using the definition of science in his teaching of "know the truth". Truth solves problems. So are Science and Christianity at odds? No. they work together.
@refuse2bdcvd32428 күн бұрын
God's word is documented history. Denial of God's word is history denial.
@eltonron1558Ай бұрын
Small problem. If he didn't declare Mt. 24:14, as the gospel, he didn't share the gospel. If he didn't call Mk. 1:14-15, he didn't share the gospel. It's in the Lord's prayer. Thy kingdom come. No gospel, just evidence for God. My evidence, is how God was heard by crowds, twice, in the Bible. Gospel is different, ftom evidence for God, and the teaching of salvation.
@phoenixoliviacopy2727Ай бұрын
That super loud AI voice with loads of reverb is awful.
@zebman9228Ай бұрын
There are evil acts of men which usually causes suffering, and then there is the natural world doing its thing which can cause suffering. These are two very different things. The second one is because the Earth and life forms in it are part of a very complicated system that works. This system, for this discussion, can be divided into life form systems and non-life systems. Non-life systems that cause suffering would be volcanoes, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, drought, avalanches, etc. If you want to make judgements about your creator because of how your Earth is, you need to come up with a better planet and explain how you would design it in detail. Life form systems that cause suffering are mostly related to genetic variations that cause problems. Other issues are individuals that are not taking care of the bodies or who expect to live forever. Do you blame God because a predator happens to kill a human? What about a ship that sinks and people die? The ship was designed and built by humans. Gravity, the ocean, bad weather or icebergs are part of the Earth system. How would you design the Earth and life if you are critical of how God did it? Not what you would design, but HOW would it be designed? The whole issue is only possible because of the miracle of life on this planet in the first place.
@pmac_2 ай бұрын
We should ask not what is God doing on a cross (which he never was - God is immortal), but what his only Son was doing there, in response to his father's command to lay down his life, that he might take it up again.
@12oldmanАй бұрын
Are you saying that Christ was not fully God and fully man?
@charliegarnett9757Ай бұрын
@@12oldmanTo ask that question…to me shows a complete lack of understanding of Christianity. I am not disparaging in any way… to gain the understanding is not 101 course…many who have studied it for years still do not fully understand. Many days my brain cannot wrap itself around the infinity of God. But I know it is true.
@TREVORALLEN-tl4ytАй бұрын
Why vicarious redemption?why not just forgive?Perhaps it’s a window into gods soul that’s indicative of the Old Testament where god has difficulty keeping his own commandments?
@AtamMardes3 ай бұрын
The Bible is the goat herder's guide to the galaxy.
@WhatWouldJesusThink3 ай бұрын
It's yours too! 😁
@AtamMardes3 ай бұрын
@@WhatWouldJesusThink The human brain (educated or not) is very susceptible to pareidolia, apophenia, hallucinations, superstitions and gullibility; That's why religion has managed to fool so many people.
@farcovidiu31103 ай бұрын
@@AtamMardesIt seems you did not listen at all. Instead, You make this narrow- minded, scoffer comments from which You are the only to lose. God have mercy on You!
@AtamMardes3 ай бұрын
@@Mario_Sky_521 The human brain (scientist or not) is very susceptible to pareidolia, apophenia, hallucinations, superstitions and gullibility; That's why religion has managed to fool so many people.
@AtamMardes3 ай бұрын
@@farcovidiu3110 The human brain (scientist or not) is very susceptible to pareidolia, apophenia, hallucinations, superstitions and gullibility; That's why religion has managed to fool so many people.
@rayober2273Ай бұрын
There's no gospel there. The Apostles convicted people of sin and the result of sin. They urged people to repent and turn away from sin and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved. Everyone here is guilty before Jesus Christ. What are you going to do about your problem? All they got was an intellectual presentation of historical facts
@tayozubair4566Ай бұрын
So what's there?
@rayober2273Ай бұрын
@@tayozubair4566 Can't you read? "All they got was an intellectual presentation of historical facts".There was no challenge for each persom there to admit they are sinners, repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
@tayozubair4566Ай бұрын
@@rayober2273 he is talking to intellectuals, and many who denies the existence of God and neither want anything to do with religion. In presenting the gospel, ones needs to consider the audience and I think he did that well
@rayober2273Ай бұрын
@@tayozubair4566 Yeah sure.
@hongotedesco8931Ай бұрын
Ok, this whole "ultimate justice" thing. Sure, that'd be nice, but it's not true. You can't say "it's true because that would be nice", you need to prove why there exists "ultimate justice". Let's face it, there are a lot of ugly things in this world, not the way we would want them to be. You can't just wish them away.
@jasonstreun499316 күн бұрын
Why is the burden of proof on him? Where is YOUR proof?
@hongotedesco893115 күн бұрын
@@jasonstreun4993 He's the one that's making the assertion, he has to prove it. And ok, I'm saying the opposite "it's not true", and it's really too strong a statement. I should really have said "it's likely not true". And here's the evidence for that: - We descended from a splotch of bacteria. We're just one more tweak in a long line of evolutionary tweaks. Thus, at what point do we get this notion that we have a "soul" + some sort of continued existence after death? Eg, do Neanderthals have this? We bred with them, so there would've been half-human, half-neanderthal people, what about them? What about the common ancestor of chimps and humans? Did he have a soul? What about worms? Do they go to worm heaven? - To date, there has been zero evidence of "life after death", a "soul", or any kind of supernatural intervention in the workings of the universe. Zero.
@Shytot-1Ай бұрын
Do you all feel sorry for the six or so billion people who have not been raised to believe in Jesus Christ? Not to mention the billions who have never even heard of Jesus Christ. How many gods do you not believe in?
@johnpro2847Ай бұрын
The evidence relies on statements by Greek writers about alleged miracles which cannot be confirmed.
@thewildkids406Ай бұрын
Try studying the book of Acts
@82iwns838ejsns27 күн бұрын
Get some life kid
@johnpro2847Ай бұрын
This "evidence" would not be admissible in a modern law court as it is based in stories rewritten decades later by writers who were not present.
@ChristsCrucifixionWitnessMinisАй бұрын
Completely false. The Gospel of Matthew was written by the tax collector, mentioned in the Gospels, that started following Jesus. The Gospel of John was written by the apostle John that was with Jesus from the beginning of His ministry. Marc, was one of the disciples of Peter, who was in turn with Jesus from the beginning of His ministry as well. Luke was a Greek doctor and historian. So, your bias and intellectual dishonesty is astounding. Not to mention your ignorance of the Law. You better watch cold case detective J. Warner Wallace with Cold Case Christianity, maybe you'll understand how witness testimony works.
@alwinengelbrecht3012Ай бұрын
You are so funny.😂 You do know that you've been deceived, don't you? 🤣
@ChristsCrucifixionWitnessMinisАй бұрын
@@alwinengelbrecht3012 who exactly has been deceived if you don't mind?
@alwinengelbrecht3012Ай бұрын
@@ChristsCrucifixionWitnessMinis You are spot on with your comment. The deceiced one is @johnpro2847 & those whose sentiments he regurgitates. Probably a disciple of inter-alia Bart Ehrman, if not then definitely still a staunch follower of Lucifer. The Scripture defines his type in Psalm 14:1 & reiterates it again in Psalm 53:1. He would easily also believe that his own father testifying in a court of law decades later that he is his son would not stand as evidence in a modern court of law. These people are so funny. 😂🤣
@kellymcrae7157Ай бұрын
That's not true when it comes to the Bible, but it is definitely true about evolution.
@johnpro2847Ай бұрын
The evidence of Jesus being a god is very weak.
@TheAbnormalAverage-nz3fhАй бұрын
The evidence that he died and resurrected is actually quite strong. And if he could do that, as he said he would do when he was alive, then he probably was who he said he was
@Katalystuk1Ай бұрын
Most people still wouldn't believe if Jesus walked up to them and hi fived them. Its because they dont him to real @TheAbnormalAverage-nz3fh
@alwinengelbrecht3012Ай бұрын
So opinionated, aren't you. 🤣😂
@CarlDyck-o9w27 күн бұрын
@@johnpro2847 He is from everlasting. The Great I AM
@sujithmedari185223 күн бұрын
You're right, but the evidence of Jesus being THE God of the universe is very strong.
@eljay57463 ай бұрын
Illustrates why supposedly intelligent individuals sound so dumb because of religion. So many unfounded claims without a shred of scientific evidence.
@WhatWouldJesusThink3 ай бұрын
@@eljay5746 This is the highlight video where I pick out the way he transitions to the central good news about Jesus. If you hear the whole talk, he does make some excellent points. Scientific evidence is used by Christians all the time. The show “Creation Magazine Live!” (for example) is an excellent scientific series with countless pieces of scientific evidence for God & the Bible. Ultimately, it comes down to who you trust as your authority: your Creator or atheistic scientists who are forbidden from considering the supernatural and therefore have a bias towards atheistic processes to begin with. These are just a few thoughts. I pray God leads you to the truth.
@eljay194893 ай бұрын
@@WhatWouldJesusThink Science & the christian God is a dichotomy. Until there is scientific proof of the claims( without evidence) other than mythological thoughts written in a book in a time when individuals believed in dragons, angels etc. In a time when individuals believed that any natural event that brought chaos was that a God was angry. All the superstitious nonsense believed in those times led to the invention of Gods. There is no reason to believe in any God.
@johnpro2847Ай бұрын
Big John's examples are just as confusing as the points he is trying to make. He should stick to arithmetic methinks
@alwinengelbrecht3012Ай бұрын
And you little-john to correct english. 😂🤣
@greenguitarfish2 ай бұрын
John Lenox told Richard Dawkins, QUOTE; “I believe in evolution as Darwin saw it.” Lenox also rejects the creation account in Genesis and instead believes in The Big Bang faith. This compromise seriously undermines his appealing to scripture as God breathed truth. He wants to pick and choose. He is another compromised academic who is deeply flawed and inconsistent. This fact is not lost on his hearers. That is why he feels comfortable in Ivy League settings. He would not be invited to such places if he were true to Gods word, and interpreted evidences from a biblical respective. By the way, The James Webb Space Telescope sent images that sunk the unbiblical Big Bang idea, and Dr. Jason Lyell ( Astrophysicist) rightly predicted what it would discover based on the biblical timeline. He is a true uncompromising man if God. John Lenox should not be touted as a great Christian apologist. He is not.
@torreyintahoe3 ай бұрын
Lennox is a kook. He's never made a remotely convincing argument for the existence of god or the truth of christianity.
@WhatWouldJesusThink3 ай бұрын
@@torreyintahoe Your statement is not objectively true. Why? Many have been convinced using arguments Lennox has made. One of such arguments is the historical resurrection of Jesus Christ (which he mentions in this video). Countless skeptics have come to believe in Jesus through the historical evidence of the resurrection. He may not have convinced you, but many people would disagree on the convincing nature of his arguments. God bless you.
@torreyintahoe3 ай бұрын
@@WhatWouldJesusThink There was not a resurrection. That’s a myth.
@WhatWouldJesusThink3 ай бұрын
@@torreyintahoe That’s your subjective view (hopefully not for long) but here’s my point: It cannot be *objectively* true that “he has never made a remotely convincing argument” since many have been convinced by arguments he has made. God bless!
@user-vn8so9rf3d2 ай бұрын
Church leaders on my path to faith told me to forget the science (despite the fact that I have a science degree). Fortunately, God drew me in past this. Church leaders put stumbling blocks before me here and I fear that many are prevented in their approach to God by the refusal of many people to accept science. Yes we have the bible, but we also have God's word written in Astronomy, Astrophysics, Cosmology, Particle Physics, and Mathematics. We also have God's timeline written in Biology and Geology. John Lennox is a breath of fresh air here.
@torreyintahoe2 ай бұрын
@@user-vn8so9rf3d You were duped.
@mick1gallagher2 ай бұрын
How much money has john made from these speeches. Isn't religion a very profitable tax free industry end of story.
@WhatWouldJesusThink2 ай бұрын
I’m going to guess you don’t educate for a living. You probably aren’t a full-time teacher or public speaker. If you were, the idea of being paid to do talks would be normal. Everyone needs to get paid for the work they do. Lennox happens to be a university professor who prepares and presents talks for a living. This is not a problem. It’s great. There would be a problem if he did these talks for the money. But since we can’t see his motives, why assume the worst?
@ianalan43672 ай бұрын
mick1gallagher - How much does Dawkins, Dillahunty, or get paid to give speeches? Atheism has become a very profitable industry. Does that somehow devalue the claims of atheists?
@bobwilkinson2008Ай бұрын
Still so delusional. I'm assuming he is paid handsomely for spouting this drivel.
@jacobtack2258Ай бұрын
Sadly for him and his audience. He is wrong, in that Jesus is the messiah. Jesus is NOT the Hebrew Messiah of the Bible.
@dominiqueubersfeld2282Ай бұрын
"Professor" John Lennox shows the arrogance of a preacher, not the openness of a scientist
@hummingbird2536Ай бұрын
Professor of Mathematics is the title conferred on him by the university over many years of distinguished teaching. Why does your arrogance insist on quote marks to call this into dispute?
@geraldreiter507Ай бұрын
Dom. You don't actually BELIEVE that!
@richardbell74143 ай бұрын
No one can prove the resurrection so all what he said is a waste
@daveingrey26152 ай бұрын
You’re right, the Resurrection of Jesus has no conclusive proof. If there was proof, there would be no faith. There is ample evidence of it. I recommend John Stott’s Basic Christianity if you’d like a good review of the evidence.
@weewee15182 ай бұрын
Mm.. the problem is not proof. But persuasion. Even with proof .. we still can not be persuaded. It's in us.
@nemochuggles2 ай бұрын
False - it’s very probable based on the historical evidence surrounding the resurrection
@pmac_2 ай бұрын
No one could prove there was no resurrection. There was no body there.
@edwardgale4491Ай бұрын
@@pmac_ nice play on words.
@ossiedunstan44192 ай бұрын
You mean john lennox the failed mathematician turned prothletising for god.