John Piper Interviews J.I. Packer

Ask Pastor John
Special Episode
Guest: J.I. Packer
Transcript: www.desiringgod.org/interview...

[@MicahMcLellan]

I appreciate Packer's gentle humility when trying to answer Piper's question about where believers in Christ would be living in "the life to come." Packer admits that he doesn't know enough and that "...the Bible doesn't tell me enough" as he proceeded to answer what he did know at the time of his learning. If only other prominent Calvinists would be humble enough to admit where the Bible doesn't speak fully on topics where they pretend it does...

[@michellelkuenzi7367]

Lord, may I be a 'folk who lives slowly enough to be able to think deeply!'

[@deetsy4jesus]

Amen!

[@lunbabuichiru6320]

love this comment

[@LL21009]

@@lunbabuichiru6320 That phrase was pure gold! All of us, christians in 21st century should stop and consider this truth!

[@Scotbluebelle]

My husband & I were blessed to study at Trinity Theological College in Bristol in the 70s. Dear Jim Packer was Vice Principal at the time, with the lovely Alec Motyer as Principal. What an honour and privilege we had, knowing these 2 wonderful, Godly men.

[@marcelwillieniles3816]

2 great theologians and men of faith...just love it...!

[@MBVXONIDE]

This is beautiful

[@holydiscovery6470]

Thank you! It's a blessing for me to encounter this content:)

[@joannewells]

It will be a privilege to meet both of you in heaven one day.

[@carlosmolina7330]

Amen

[@stevehawke9819]

"It will be a privilege to meet both of you in heaven one day." I mean, as of Aug. 5, 2020, John Piper is elderly, but he ain't dead yet! :) You can still meet him in person if you are able to travel to where he is speaking. :)

[@joannewells]

@@stevehawke9819 So true😊 And if I am allowed that chance to hear him in person or meet him, that will be great. But otherwise, it will have to be on the other side.

[@AtamMardes]

*Please explain,* *-In what context it is moral to turn children into indentured servitude volunteered workers?* *-In what context it is moral to treat indentured servitude volunteered workers as property?* *-In what context it is moral to pass indentured servitude volunteered workers to children as permanent inheritance?* *-In what context it is moral to treat indentured servitude volunteered workers so bad that relatives shouldn’t be treated that way?* *-If it was indentured servitude volunteered work, then why it is restricted to only foreigners?* Leviticus 25:44-46 However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to beat indentured servitude volunteered workers with many blows?* Luke 12:47 The servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to beat indentured servitude volunteered workers as long as they don't die?* Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to kill non-virgin brides?* Deuteronomy 22:20-21 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to kill unruly children?* Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard." Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to slaughter infants?* 1 Samuel 15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and *infants,* cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

[@hp2402]

@@AtamMardes in the context of a God who has all power and authority telling us that it is so. If we are not in submission to His will, none of His word will make sense to those who are perishing- 1 Cor. 1:18. There will always be injustice on this fallen world until it is remade when Christ returns, do you know how you will be justified when it matters as you stand before your creator and judge? Will all of your self-Agra fixed notions of right and wrong convince the Ancient of Days of something He overlooked in His grand design? The original sin in the garden of Eden was man’s disregard for Gods command and explanation of what right and wrong are. Man chose to do what he thought was right and we’ve been doing so ever since. Praise be to Christ who died that we might be reunited with God!! I am praying for you friend!

[@robine1018]

What an extremely powerful interview. It has truly been a blessing to listen to this.

[@mikemccormick9667]

So blessed to have God pass the baton along to His heralds who sincerely love Him. 🙏♥️🙏

[@lucyrouleau1805]

So blessing to my soul the phrase learn to live slowly really speak to me deeply ,and mortification ,thank you

[@allendula]

EXCELLENT...I LOVE THUS INTERVIEW

[@lionoffireministries]

Bless you all watching 😊🙏

[@AtamMardes]

*Please explain,* *-In what context it is moral to turn children into indentured servitude volunteered workers?* *-In what context it is moral to treat indentured servitude volunteered workers as property?* *-In what context it is moral to pass indentured servitude volunteered workers to children as permanent inheritance?* *-In what context it is moral to treat indentured servitude volunteered workers so bad that relatives shouldn’t be treated that way?* *-If it was indentured servitude volunteered work, then why it is restricted to only foreigners?* Leviticus 25:44-46 However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to beat indentured servitude volunteered workers with many blows?* Luke 12:47 The servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to beat indentured servitude volunteered workers as long as they don't die?* Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to kill non-virgin brides?* Deuteronomy 22:20-21 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to kill unruly children?* Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard." Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear. * Please explain, in what context it is moral to slaughter infants?* 1 Samuel 15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and *infants,* cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

[@ericsontan7001]

Praise the Lord!!

[@adolpheiraguha3245]

Can't Imagine how God Ministered to me through this Interview, Listen from my Kitchen I was confessing amens and Nooding over and over and over... Blessing to the DESIRING GOD MINISTRY

[@calliefreeman765]

i cannot imagine the joy J.I. Packer feels at this moment!! Glory to God for His precious saint is with the Savior!

[@calliefreeman765]

@john piper if your going to impersonate John Piper, you may want to try using correct grammar and english buddy. Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.

[@hangryturtle9006]

This message blessed and convicted me. Thank you for this!

[@MBVXONIDE]

I love this beyond words

[@SnapSuplexSeanVA]

Have a good day brothers and sisters!

[@A1vin505]

When are you bringing back sermon jams

[@vico100]

Great!

[@Michael-ub4hb]

Blessings

[@brandonfertig]

So good

[@Richie016]

Wisdom talk on theology & God's spiritual existence in our lives.😀

[@benturner1721]

Amen.

[@velurias7793]

„Drain the life out of our sinful system“. Love it!

[@georgeluke6382]

24:52 is so good to chew on. Soteriological Calvinism is something to chew on, distinct from the fullness of Reformed theology - particularly, thinking about the Reformation not just as the 5 Solas, nor soteriological definitions, nor imputation of active obedience alone, but, the whole life lived in submission to the whole Christ, with a reformation of ecclesiology and the clarity of soteriology, anthropology, and teaching authority in the Church.

[@georgeluke6382]

28:56 for this- union with Christ as a counterpoint.

[@HearGodsWord]

Have been looking forward to listening to this interview. Surprised this hasn't been released before.

[@AtamMardes]

Jesus said always ask for evidence before believing something. Resurrection is a supernatural extraordinary claim. The resurrection of Dionysus, Osiris, and Attis were all hoaxes. *Question:* Does anyone have evidence (not just books or opinions of scholars) to prove decades after Jesus and his disciples were dead, the hoaxer Christian writers didn't create a Jesus resurrection hoax, by making up fake backdated stuff like a fake empty tomb story, fake eyewitnesses, fake testimonials, and a fake story that apostles witnessed a risen Jesus?

[@shawnmoose6119]

atam mardes The Apostles wrote the NT before they died. That can be proven by historical fact. So, I am not sure I get the statement “after the disciples died... the hoaxer Christian writers wrote...” But I would love to help if you are willing to listen with an open ear.

[@HearGodsWord]

@@AtamMardes still waiting for you to show us where this quote came from, not to mention the fact you've ignored the dozen of responses before when you've now posted the same thing over 100 times 😂

[@HearGodsWord]

@@AtamMardes you still haven't responded to this so posting it again. You've given no information, legitimate or otherwise, just an opinion and inaccurate understanding. Must be you who needs smartening up! As I keep highlighting, You mention a hoax so tell us who's saying it's a hoax? What information or evidence are you basing your statement on? What sources do you have in order to make such a statement? What research have you done in order to have that opinion? What information have you actually gathered? You have no evidence for your opinion so why ask some from us, only to then ignore it? The irony here atam is that you're the one without evidence 😂 You must have been brought up as an atheist as you clearly don't know the first thing about Jesus, the Bible and Christianity. You've formed an opinion based on nothing, that makes you the one who is ignorant and gullible. You need to be clear on your own position but you have not been able to defend it so I suggest you go and do some reading and come back when you have something meaningful to contribute. I've offered you video links but you wouldn't click on them. I referred you to both Christian and non-Christian writings from the time but not only have you not checked them you claim they were made up, with no proof. I offered you modern writings and research and you wouldn't look at those either. I even offered to send you books and a Bible but you didn't take up the offer. You are clearly asking a question that you don't actually want the answer to! Pretty childish really, no? 😂

[@AtamMardes]

@@HearGodsWord How many times I have to post the same truth before you actually start using your brain to think on your own?

[@averyparks179]

Charles Spurgeon has been for me, what owen and Edwards have been for them.

[@debbiefondren8377]

SO PRECIOUS AND RICH

[@francesngarae8345]

Eye opening look at God's character

[@christianchrist3806]

Jesus Christ is Lord of lords King of Kings Alpha an Omega Amighty God eternally grateful for all the time to get his Kingdom on Earth for his Eternal Presents for all to know the God an The Lamb To be in Heaven Amen

[@jesusbrooks01]

15:00

[@michaelstanley4698]

I enjoyed J.I.Packer's answers until he got to the 'unnatural' question (Rom.1:24-28), when he seemed fearful to point out, that procreation is God's purpose for mankind, and placing the 'seed' any where but where it was designed to be placed, is 'against nature', and to God the Creator is 'abominable' in His sight, the only Sight that matters (Rev.21:8, 27, Heb.4:13)!!!

[@CatfishHeaven777]

If you think mankind’s purpose in life is procreation then you shouldn’t be speaking on anything concerning doctrine.

[@fabiosousa8750]

Dude... What? I think you should rewatch that part. Packer's view was pretty much what you are saying. He said that pleasure shouldn't be dissociated with reproduction (even quoting the catholic tradition in order to do so). That's the same thing as saying "procreation is God's purpose for mankind, and placing the 'seed' any where but where it was designed to be placed, is 'against nature'" And he didn't hesitate in any way. Now, what you might find wrong and disagree with is Piper's view on this podcast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iavMnn6af7CcbLM If not, than please point to the time stamp where Packer seemed to contradict what you believe.

[@michaelstanley4698]

@@fabiosousa8750 At times Packer seems a bit fearful to declare truth, and I still have my guard up, if he was bullied into signing PACT or not. The righteous are 'as bold as a lion', and Rev.21:8 places the 'fearful and unbelieving' together. Notice verse 7... I also disapprove of Piper not allowing Packer to finish his answers, but was butting in too soon every time...sadly

[@carljones8334]

@@michaelstanley4698 I had an elder constantly heading me off from asking questions to find out what a person was actually saying, he seemed happy for a person to believe something erroneous, rather than be corrected to what the Bible taught, almost like he wanted them to be ignorant of God's Word.

[@michaelstanley4698]

@@carljones8334 I've found that some topics require more study than most men are willing to give to include all scriptures about it...but settle for what they want to believe (like in easy believism).