John Piper recently tweeted some interesting thoughts about corporate worship and whether you can do simple things like sip coffee during that worship experience. Yeah, it's odd. #johnpiper #church #coffee
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@Outrider7410 ай бұрын
I’m not fond of food or drink in the sanctuary for the simple reason that people (especially children) tend to spill things and may not clean them up.
@JhutaNabi10 ай бұрын
Worship and focus on God is a heart issue. Here is what I call legalistic thinking - the broad brush determination that coffee (or anything else) in church signifies intent (lack of seriousness) which is a heart attitude. If coffee is associated with casualness in one person’s life, then they shouldn’t bring coffee. If not, the person. Is free. Isn’t this the lesson of Paul’s instruction in 1 Corinthians 8? “It is for freedom that Christ has set us free” (Galatians 5:1)
@JhutaNabi10 ай бұрын
@@RecalledtoLife I see your point, and agree. I find it funny that as someone who has never brought drinks into a worship service (and probably never will) for the reasons you mention, I am arguing for the other side.
@dylangraham353510 ай бұрын
I think some people take meeting with God way too casually, but sipping coffee is not the problem. But if your life is complete by the aroma of roasted beans and not the aroma of God's presence then you might have to really consider what's going on in your heart. As Piper would say, 'I don't need the arommma of a bean!!! I need to treasure the arommma, of Him!!!!'
@davidsandrock78264 ай бұрын
Even if my life _is_ completed by the roasted bean on a superficial level, who created that roasted bean? Who created me with the taste buds to enjoy it? That’s right, God did.
@newsworthy8226 ай бұрын
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@Underdogtheology6 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by. I’ll check it out!
@doctor1alex10 ай бұрын
I think it’s completely reasonable to mandate no eating and drinking (necessary sip of water aside) during the formal part of the worship service. That’s because we are to give our full attention to the minister in his sermon and our whole bodies to God in singing or when saying the creed corporately, etc. Outside of the sermon and singing though, I see absolutely no issue with it.
@Mojo325 ай бұрын
Amen.
@Lovebiblereading10 ай бұрын
Love the background!
@johnrodriguez262510 ай бұрын
I do like when John Piper talks about making war on the flesh on that Tedashii song, “Make War”.
@peterfraley10 ай бұрын
I just generally can’t stand it when people walk around with obnoxious sized coffee and straws into anything… so I kind of understand where Rev Piper is coming from
@davidcswpg3 ай бұрын
John Piper says if his wife dies, that is a test on whether he loves his wife or God more. Why don’t u do a video about that
@MrWesford10 ай бұрын
If you’re eating or drinking in the Church during the service you can be assured that you’re not in a real Church.
@washingtonsteven68856 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@ashleighmiller41013 ай бұрын
John Piper is right, but… why should anyone take evangelical services seriously? They are basically just concerts with a lecture half way through. Church goers are basically just following the example set by the church leaders
@ThisisPam10 ай бұрын
That’s not Christian hedonism! 🤔
@shawnsmith737510 ай бұрын
I try not to comment too often. But you deserve response and applause. I cannot even imagine anything that would be a better response to this video. It was sublime, and You should hold your head high today. I will be sharing this video and your thoughts with a couple friends who are well versed enough in Piper to appreciate your comments as much as I do. You brightened my day, thank you.
@ThisisPam10 ай бұрын
@@shawnsmith7375 Thank you!
@reformedpilgrim10 ай бұрын
No coffee?!? Big Yikes!
@josephbachota10 ай бұрын
Yeah I see his point but I think John Piper made a mountain out of a mole hill on this one
@bizmogrowth908110 ай бұрын
Beth Moore is agreeing with him lol
@markstevens783810 ай бұрын
I think fellow believers need to chill. People who come to church are all at different places in their lives with different things happening. What most people look for from others when they are attending a service is fellowship and acceptance not nitpicking judgement. So drink up me hearties and enjoy your cup of Java.
@Jawond3410 ай бұрын
coffee never hurt a soul!!!!!
@mattwilly795910 ай бұрын
Sigh, I wish we were more concerned with abuse in the church than with worrying about coffee in the sanctuary. This is another of those issues that we should leave to the conscience of each christian rather than create man made rules and add more law on to people.
@AB-yh1ew10 ай бұрын
“John Piper is upset…go figure” 😂😂😂
@Lovebiblereading10 ай бұрын
Don’t drink your coffee while Piper preaches that God predestined all our besetting sins, it’s irreverent
@markstevens783810 ай бұрын
Chill, go sit at the front of the church.😂
@BruceJC7510 ай бұрын
Is his son a barista now? Maybe that’s a low blow lol.
@sarahtrerice181410 ай бұрын
Maybe I can’t focus on what’s being preached with out my coffee. Maybe my voice isn’t warmed up first thing in the morning for singing without my coffee… leave the coffee alone piper! 😂
@Underdogtheology10 ай бұрын
I do better with something to drink too.
@Mojo325 ай бұрын
@Falcon-um7voAmen. Why so many can understand that all of it is about worshipping God, The Creator of all. How sad how many Christians forgot (or don't understand at all) the holiness of God.
@lukedailey10 ай бұрын
Ok…. Ok…. You know I’m a Piper guy… but when men speak negatively about coffee, almost all my respect for them goes out the window. Have I found the line with John Piper? Dun dun dunnnnn
@JonAdamsMinistries10 ай бұрын
HOW DARE YOU?!?!
@Underdogtheology10 ай бұрын
Respect!
@onegirlarmy440110 ай бұрын
I wonder he'll outlaw baby bottles next. Maybe that's not an issue if he's already kicked all the babies out of service for being a distraction.