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[@randallcartwright7886]

Dang Rob. This is why we love you. Spot on.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

I’m happy that this is the most upvoted comment in this thread.

[@SeanRN]

I love his passion. Rob is a romantic and it’s awesome.

[@aldogarcia5413]

The voice of cinephiles

[@smithjaeden2003]

pin this comment john

[@jessebautista872]

Yup he’s my favorite, this movie is about to hit the feels

[@Sirillius]

Star wars took a franchise to make a billion, so did End game. Titanic and Avatar made their billions on their own merit.

[@danielarosemena209]

youre damn right! people’s hate on avatar is just jealousy and jumping on a “cool train” of hating what’s popular because its quality good

[@anduinslayer4829]

But Marvel had billion dollar hits prior to endgame. Multiple, in fact. A decade worth of hype is pretty damn impressive. And Star Wars still going strong is impressive too. The point is, SW, Marvel and Avatar/Titanic are huge cultural successes.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

Don’t say things like that. Though this is true, but it’s very triggering. :D

[@Vrillxn]

@@genrihlanevsky6612 no it’s not cuz it’s the truth

[@millabasset1710]

@@44r0n-9 Adjusted for inflation is an irrelevant statistic

[@Silentsilo987]

I sometimes go back to older shows to see who was right, wrong, etc. I would say the Avatar enthusiasts were correct. It made $2.3 billion and I ended up seeing it 6 times in theaters...totally get the romantic point. Overall, visually and emotionally, it was a pleasure to watch and I just kept going back to get on that ride.

[@tronam]

I saw it 5x in theaters myself. It’s a shame these films take so long to make, but it was worth it.

[@MetzScarvenger]

Rob's point about the Romanticism of what Cameron brings in Avatar hits the nail on the head. There's such a sincerity to the sense of wonder and Cameron is such a master at crafting that through cinema.

[@Toshibaclovis]

Avatar 2 got me in the theater twice this weekend. 2019 Was the last time I was in a theater. Money well spent!!

[@nicelyfaithful]

To be honest, the feeling of seeing this movie, is like going back to hogwarts, middle earth or hitting lightspeed. Plus as much as I appreciate comic-book movies, i'm beyond thrilled this isn't one. I re-watched the first one when it came back to theathers this past october, and damn, you can't deny the artistic ability....let's go!!!!

[@stephenschiffman5940]

Yes Rob, PREACH! It's allegory. It's supposed to be "a Western in space," calling it "just Pocahontas/Dances with Wolves but blue" is an absurdly shallow way to look at it.

[@charoleawood]

Avatar is an "Epic Romantic Adventure", and there used to be a lot of them, it was a legitimate genre before our modern era. Captain America 1 I think is a great film that really excels at that kind of narrative and is also the kind of movie making that gets MCU lovers to yawn, they don't like romantic adventures and think that we shouldn't either.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

Star Wars, the Top Gun sequel, and most money-printing comic book films also contain very basic stories full of well-worn tropes. It doesn't matter if it is well executed. "I've seen this story before..." is criticism without merit. Literally any story you've read, watched, or played through has been before countless times.

[@Big_Red1]

@@ahorsewithnoname773 Unless you're story was written before the Epic of Gilgamesh of course, LOL.

[@MsBeloved89]

I love Robert's reaction. That smirk like "yeah I told ya" lmao

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

His perspective and pure passion for the movie is so refreshing to hear!! The parroting “Pocahontas in space” crowd indeed done some damage. So to see someone being so proud and passionate about a movie like Rob in this video. That’s inspiring

[@MsBeloved89]

@@genrihlanevsky6612 Exactly. I feel the same way about this movie. I am a die hard fan of the first. I remember Avatar Day like it was yesterday. There is no doubt in my mind I will be blown away again.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

@Amandeers Hey there a fellow fan. I’m so excited for this movie. I can understand now how it must have felt to MCU fan before the release of Endgame

[@PR-qp8iz]

Cameron himself has stated that the movie needs to make at least 2 billion, JUST TO BREAK EVEN. That's a huge bet and I hope Cameron wins it.

[@derpfrog5625]

I wonder why it cost so much? They already had the technology, the CGI guys..editors, it's like going to work the next day.. pack a lunch and pay your crew. It's not like your paying scriptwriters a hot dime.

[@dovthiessen]

That has to include his personal profit target

[@thuaners]

@@derpfrog5625 because they filmed 2 and a half movies worth of footage and had to create new technology to capture the underwater scenes

[@blair5plus1]

Rob is the bomb. Obvious that good percentage of this man’s life has been dedicated to the intricate art art of SciFi & storytelling appreciation. Hand on heart he voices what so many of us feel but can’t exactly articulate 👌🏼👊🏼

[@eragon4249]

This was the first theatrical release ever to bring me back in the theater to watch it again and again.

[@jon1970]

I think 2 billion today is stretching it. Honestly don’t understand the skeptical people though. The first one really delivered. Also, any movie we see today is based on something that has happened or a movie we haven’t seen. To pretend our ideas are “original and nobody ever thought of it” is really kinda silly. And if we happen to come by something like that it’s extremely rare.

[@petera.michaelsen4657]

Saw it yesterday and the film was one of the most beautiful sequels I’ve ever seen. Waiting so many years to see the story from Jake and Neytiri’s family was absolutely gorgeous. The cultural, racial, social, religious and moral themes of the film were also executed so well.

[@Post2011pictures]

Saw it yesterday. Very good movie. I can see why people feel it tops the first Avatar. I still love the journey of BPWF but AV2 had a final battle scene I wish BPWF had. It's a crazy experience seeing this slow to mellow pace story and world building and then boom 3rd act just went full steam ahead. No spoiler but it was like James Cameron made a sequel to Avatar and Titanic all in one film🤣. Good family film without coming off as one. Go see it but use the bathroom first!

[@notoyaarthur1990]

Not gonna lie, that was me in the movie too. Just watched it for the 2nd time today and I myself found that I missed dialogue just because I was staring distractedly at certain visuals in scenes. I will probably sit my a$$ down for another 3+hrs viewing b4 it leave the theatre. And I never get why John always complains that long run time will affect it's box office. Then again, I'm the type of person that prefers the extended LOTR and avatar versions over the theatrical

[@Thomas15]

A long runtime affects the box office because it limits the number of screenings per day.

[@korvkioskshelvete]

Avatar left me with goosebumps for a week.

[@SteveMcCoy.]

I fully believe that $2 billion is guaranteed worldwide. Asian countries are super excited for this and the China box office could be huge.

[@OrionInSpace]

God I am so excited for this movie🙏

[@endlessserenade4491]

the thing that studios need to understand is that people no longer want to go to the theatre to watch a movie they could easily see for fraction of the price from the comfort of their homes. If you want people to come to the theatre then you need to release movies that are viewed as an experience. The movies need to be a visual spectacle AND have a good story that appeals to everyone. I think James Cameron understands this very well and thats what makes him so great

[@rcc4343]

Robert Meyer Burnett is precisely correct and I've said the same thing without seeing the film.

[@El3mental1]

This movie was indeed, a masterpiece.

[@bennozoid1]

"He squats down and shits out hits!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@1Ksheffi]

This movie is going to break all sorts of records and in a month where there won't be much competition. I've learned to never underestimate James Cameron in the Director's Chair.

[@marcus2fashion]

"Could this be Avatar T2 ? Find out next week on Dragon ball Z."

[@Dominickudo]

Bro it is a crying shame that you don’t have more likes

[@Yic17Studio]

Not sure about $3B but with today's landscape + hype, I do think it can reach $2B. We'll see what happens.

[@MrLopez2004-t9x]

Just because a movie is the same as the first doesn't mean it's bad. Look at Top Gun: Maverick, a movie that is the same as the first but did it better. That's what I expect from Avatar 2. Come on, James Cameron knows how to make sequels better than the first. You saw that with Aliens (which I just rewatched yesterday) and Terminator 2: Judgement Day.

[@teamkaboozles4910]

This notation that a 3+ hour run time is a hinderance to box office is malarkey. Titanic was the highest grossing film until Avatar, (over 3 hours), Endgame over 3 hours, The Batman close to 3 hours made a pretty good penny this year. Is the movie great? Is it an event? Can you make it feel epic? That’s what matters not a run time

[@IsaiasMGPalafox]

Saw Harloff’s out of the theater review the other day. Looked like he cried a bit. Eyes were glossy af. 😂 He had nothing but praise for the film as well. I’m counting the days, hours, minutes, seconds for my showing next Thursday. I can’t wait. 💯💯

[@roger72715]

If TWOW doesn't make 2B? Who else? Can't get better than this. Rob, right on the money.

[@BryanLomax]

I re-watched the first film the other day and it's still absolutely fantastic. The biggest criticism people have of it is, "It's just Dances with Wolves in Space!" Well, okay, so it's a riff on a movie that won 'Best Picture'. So, what's the problem? Star Wars did the exact same thing in that it took a down to earth Kurasawa movie and shoved it in space.

[@michelbrouillette1235]

I work at a movie theater. Don't be surprised if the box office numbers are higher than expected. Disney is almost entirely showing it on premium or 3d formats. We aren't allowed to show it in standard format. You will struggle to see this movie for less than $15. It doesn't have to get even close to the same audience count as avatar, it will make bank anyway.

[@chuc.dxq3809]

China just loosen their covid policy. Good news for Avatar.

[@geert574]

The dialogue in this is too insultingly stupid for Chinese

[@MrBrock314]

@@geert574 The first Avatar (which isn't exactly known for its dialogue) was massively popular in China making over $400 million there (which is a lot (like close to the record) in case you're unfamiliar with the track record of Hollywood movies in China).

[@carterchin2135]

I'm so hyped!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I already bought two IMAX tickets, and I'm in China!😃

[@t1ydot]

Ppl gotta learn that nothing is “original” anymore. Movies, tv shows, books, comics, video games, etc. are always inspired of what came before. Ppl tend to forget that

[@stephenschiffman5940]

Exactly. Every story builds on existing tropes and narrative. Star Wars clearly has a lot of tropes that were popularized in The Lord of the Rings, yet no one says "Star Wars is just LOTR but in space."

[@charoleawood]

Yes, I agree. Avatar borrows from a lot of things, not just Fern Gully but also Dune. Dune itself is heavily inspired by (if we wanted to be snarky we'd say "derivative of") Lawrence of Arabia. We also have have Last of the Mohicans published by James Fenimore Cooper in 1826. As for Pocahontas, the tall tale --- to say nothing of the real story of the woman herself --- has been around in American pop culture for centuries. If the MCU gets to mine characters and tell the same superhero stories over and over again (collect the "infinity stones" to beat the big red badguy? That's "good" storytelling?) because those heroes were penned by Stan Lee half a century ago then it should also be ok to dip into the well of epic romantic adventures. There were also a LOT of movies about jungle adventures in the 80s and 90s and represent their own subgenre, one that had disappeared by 2009. There were several Jungle Books and Tarzans, there was Mosquito Coast, The Medicine Man, The Emerald Forrest, Gorillas in the Mist, Rambo, Congo, George of the Jungle, etc etc etc. There was a larger concern about the destruction of rainforest habitat back then but now we don't seem to really care, it's like people think that it's already gone and we'd rather have grazing space for our mcdonalds cattle so we can have a bite to eat on our way to yet another superhero flick. Anyway, Fern Gully was already drawing from all of these inspirations, inspirations Cameron would have had without the existence of Fern Gully. I only wish people would be familiar with the damn source material rather than to mindlessly go, "Nuyh, it's just Fern Gully." As for Dances With Wolves, everybody should just watch it because it's superb. I still like Avatar more.

[@cinemapigeon4898]

Yep. Movies are not what they're about, they're how they're about it. If the end all be all of judging movies is plot originality, you're not going to like most movies. I do think it's a shallow look at things, and there's a lot more to movie making than overall plot details or a few tropes used in a movie. There's cinematography, dialogue, editing, pacing, music, visuals , action scenes, acting, themes, imagery, symbolism, values,etc... Nearly none of those aforementioned things are dependent on the overall plot synopsis.

[@tytheeprophet5021]

The sequels after this release of “Way of Water” will lead to something more epic later in the franchise. Definitely a huge build up in Cameron’s mind, James Cameron is the goat of filmmaking.

[@samuelstokes6624]

The Abyss was so underrated

[@charoleawood]

But it needs that Special Edition ending, with it Abyss is one of the best flicks ever made.

[@blackpanda7612]

$3 Billion. Believe it. Never doubt Cameron 💪💪

[@ScourgeGhost13]

Why does Avatar draw so many haters to it then other properties? Like they constantly say “who cares about Avatar” but if that was the case why do they feel the need to constantly whine about it?

[@starwarsfan9575]

Its cool to hate on the thing at the top. And also MCU stans who are still bummed that their precious endgame is not number 1

[@johansvensson833]

@@ahappyklingon3631 not even close to being true several dc films has beaten a majority of all MCU films

[@ANONYMOUS-tg2tq]

@@ahappyklingon3631 if you are comparing 30 movies tens of directors a whole company against one movie one director james Cameron already win and mcu is doing great what a joke even Kevin fiege agree that mcu phase 4 is garbage

[@motodork]

Every film Cameron makes is a love story. Every one.

[@MarkMarxonsBassChannel]

This movie was amazing 🤩

[@TetrarchJefffreak69]

I wouldn't expect anything less for Avatar Way of water considering James Cameron waits years and years for the technology to fit his movie vision Avatar way of water is one of those movies that's worth seeing again and again

[@cinemapigeon4898]

I think Avatar 2 is going to be insanely big. I have no idea, and I wouldn't expect it to surpass the box office of the first, but I think it clearing 2 billion is very likely, and if any movie could surpass the first Avatar, it' would be Avatar 2. James Cameron has a tendency of his movies doing that. Do remember the first Avatar made 2 billion OUTSIDE America. International markets are huge, China is huge, and Avatar has that in its back pocket.

[@ZachBobBob]

The reaction to the reactions is annoying me a bit. People are out there like 'yeah the critics are lying actually they're paid off they don't actually think it's good'

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Here's the thing everyone needs to know right now about these kinds of things: whoever you are or whatever it is you make.....if it resonates with the majority of the public on every level, there will be those that will have to hate on it because of the fact it's on another level. Even the greatest pieces of art will have detractors. But why should this matter? Who cares what the very small minority think?

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

The movie is going to break records. I have a feeling that all those who didn’t loved the first, but thought it’s OK will enjoy and love this one. But all of those who hated the first one. They will hate this one as well. Just a hunch.

[@Alex-jk8ix]

Rob is preaching 🙌 great description!

[@TranswarpXL]

"I don't think this one even gets to $2 billion..." I do. I'm thinking $675-750M domestic and $1.55-1.75B internationally.

[@Paul-ke2hg]

Too many times in the past decade and a half I have let myself get hyped beyond the point of obsession, and got let down by reading too many reviews or reactions before watching it myself. I will not let it happen ag- It happened again.

[@masonteague4039]

may hit 3 billion

[@TheMellowMutantShow]

Only time will tell

[@Music-City-Mania]

I gotta say that the still where the Navi were rising up out of the ocean was giving me strong Braveheart vibes. And that is high praise!

[@nixequestrian3721]

Only 5 days to go before I get to see it & I'm trying hard to manage my expectations lol. I admit it is getting harder with the majority of reactions so far- I mean even some of the people who despised the first movie are actually coming out of this one saying they are going to see it again as the experience was absolutely amazing- that for me is a lot harder to chalk up to being an over hyped 'fanboy/girl' or whatever & falls more into 'this movie could actually exceed already enormous expectations & create a 2nd cultural phenomenon'.

[@hercules-gq3sm]

James Cameron is now 3 for 3 when it comes to sequels. Amazing

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

Well.. we haven’t seen the movie yet. . These are just early reactions and those are tend to be very positive. I really hope you are right and this movie will prove wrong all it’s naysayers and skeptics.

[@dovthiessen]

I liked the first Avatar a lot. But it really hit home how good it was when the new Star Wars trilogy was released. One by one , they didn’t come close to the spectacle that Avatar was.

[@boris3973]

I love Rob's enthusiasm!

[@cinemapigeon4898]

Not sure if too long is a bad thing. Like 2009, peak economic recession, lost your job, down on your luck, etc... you want to be enthralled and immersed in a different world to take your mind off your horrible life. I think that works to its benefit.

[@psnitkin4059]

It seems like everyone with a KZbin channel was invited to see this, except John and his crew lol.

[@stephenschiffman5940]

Unfortunately, John Tweeting leaked spoilers for Spider-Man: No Way Home damaged his relationships with a lot of insiders.

[@psnitkin4059]

@@stephenschiffman5940 Yeah I noticed he was also not invited to Wakanda Forever.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

Oh.. what did he said in that tweet?

[@stephenschiffman5940]

@@genrihlanevsky6612 he Tweeted a leak photo of Andrew and Tobey, and another photo of Daredevil, before any of those characters were confirmed to appear.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

@Stephen Gosh! That’s a MAJOR spoiler! How on Earth he wasn’t aware of that?!

[@danielarosemena209]

rob….you gave me goosebumps it would be amazing for this to get to 3BIL F the haters who cant enjoy an original world and decide to hate it just for doing good

[@danielarosemena209]

@@ShockByte94 original meaning there’s nothing like the world of avatar/pandora, its not connected to any established IP like every other popular movies nowadays aka marvel dc star wars

[@danielarosemena209]

@@ShockByte94 and dont get me wrong i love all type of movies…. blockbusters, indy, drama, comedies…. but for blockbuster movies, its pretty nice when someone tries to create something new, and it does well… dont get me started with “oh the story is a copy and paste of another movie” top gun maverick is a copy and paste of other movies as well, and its still pretty great, the batman is a copy and paste of other detective fincher movies …. its pretty great

[@danielarosemena209]

the argument for the “story being a copy and paste” is just an excuse to hate the movie for any reason…. a more valid reason to not enjoy it as much is that the first avatar has kind of meh cliche dialogue, which i mean is understandable….but watch movies from the 80s 90s 2000s, they tend to have cliche dialogue

[@danielarosemena209]

@@ShockByte94 yeah thats why i want it to do good, that pushes other directors and studios for creating new ips and ideas for new original movies! and again I do not have an issue with a movie with a recycled plot that has been done before (which most movies do) but if it has its own spin on it? then kudos

[@danielarosemena209]

@@ShockByte94 yeah i mean again as you said… its a thing of preference and opinion. but you cant disagree that for some reason Avatar gets too much hate for “being a story similar to other movies”, when many many many other popular successful movies do literally the same thing, and nobody talks about it

[@StevoGetsCrunk]

this movie broke my heart wish we could spend more time

[@swirlingchi]

The plot may be straightforward with some twists and turns, but there are deep themes at play: takers vs givers, refugee/displacement, inhabitants vs nature, family dynamics: father/mother and children, sibling relationships, teenage struggles, difficult choices all as the backdrop to emotional character performances, set design, editing and music

[@cinemapigeon4898]

Avatar may be a "simple" plot, however there are many deeper themes that people perhaps acknowledge on a deep level but aren't aware. It's believed why so many people got post Avatar depression is because Avatar showed people what a more free existence balanced with nature could be like. A hyper idealized life that is far more exciting and virtuous than the mundane aspects of day to day boring life.

[@charlynelson210]

Campea *doesn’t want* Avatar 2 to break 2 billion. Rob believes it *can* make 3 billion. John is a real hater

[@dunkirito8308]

I’m with John. Don’t see this hitting 2 Billion

[@dunkirito8308]

@@b.hemuth7363 Well, only time will tell.

[@chrisrw453]

I don't think it'll get 2 billion

[@cinemapigeon4898]

Yes, James Cameron absolutely is great at "romantic" movies as Robert says. His movies do inspire a sense of awe and wonder, something that transports you to a different life you wish you could have or at least experience. This is something pretty rare in most movies these days. It's child like imagination, the Reading Rainbow theme song, the Eyewitness theme song. I don't think it's a coincidence shots of Pandora often feel like a well made nature documentary such as Planet Earth (Planet Pandora).

[@firesofcreation]

I cannot wait! 8 days cannot go by soon enough!

[@SpoilerKings]

"He squats down and shits out hits." Lmao! Love it!

[@TheMellowMutantShow]

😂

[@kenistheticzero3612]

Terminator 2 is the first movie I remember seeing and I told my brother CGI is the future bro 🤣

[@zhc2200]

Its the future alright. Does it mean its a better experience? Depends on the movie. The majority of cgi-dependent movies are turds. With the legendary Jurassic Parks and Avatars in-between. My opinion personally, it SUCKS. I want my practical action set pieces of the golden age of 80's-90's. Screw CGI (and the overwhelming reliance of it).

[@kenistheticzero3612]

@@zhc2200 True, when CGI is done well and it is not the only highlight in a movie it works.

[@countdrago1544]

John this will be a 3 Billion dollar movie! James Cameron is the Michaelangelo of film making 📽🎬

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

Rob is my new hero!

[@arveedibira2454]

Cameron is loving you guys now!😁... the john campea gang might get an invite to his party soon

[@calebramat7649]

Robs on the money, i saw maverick 4 times and intend to see this many times, also terminator 2 is one of the best films oat fr

[@kylerenglish5698]

I want to hear how people think about the writing, not visuals. Dune was visually stunning, but the writing was what made it good.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

The reviews will be out soon. Also to be fair the majority of reactions do mention the story and characters.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

The story of the first movie wasn't all that compelling, but it didn't need to be. The movie succeeded on spectacle and transporting the audience to another planet for two hours or so, which is no small feat. Story is rarely a major selling point for major blockbluster films. The Top Gun sequel is a recent example and the first Star Wars film is a famous example from the past. Arguably the great majority of money-printing comic book films also fall under the category of films with very basic stories and well-worn tropes that succeed because they transported the audience to another universe for a couple hours and wowed them with well executed spectacle. Films like the Dark Knight or the Joker that also had great or thought-provoking stories are very much an exception. If Avatar 2 has a story that wows it's audience too - great, but the depth of the story won't determine whether or not the film is a hit. It's just not a necessary component for this kind of film.

[@TimTensity]

I've got tickets for Thursday and Sunday opening weekend. It can't come fast enough!

[@lexatrice2600]

This movie is internationally popular. Doesn't matter if it underperform in domestic than the first one.

[@alberttarimo]

"he squats down and shits out hits" 🤣🤣🤣

[@gcampos5150]

280 million opening, with legs for 4 to 5 months. Secondary market to 250 million +. Take My Money 💰

[@geert574]

No legs at all dead by January

[@MrBrock314]

@@geert574 That's a possibility - about the same way that Earth getting destroyed by an asteroid tomorrow is a possibility. Theoretically possible but statistically implausible.

[@swirlingchi]

T2 was just a 2-hour chase where eventually you lament the sacrifice of T-800 and the thumbs up to humanity. It’s the execution of what happens during that chase that made the difference along with themes explored, character performances, etc

[@zackzaharko89]

Never, ever doubt JC when it comes to sequels!

[@altaafsheik5725]

I also thinking it's making around $3 billion 😎

[@curtisbme]

Amused me seeing people who rave about Maverick repeat the avatar-hate-meme about the story being basic. Maverick story is dumb as f. Absurdly unrealistic about every aspect of the Air Force and almost a beat for beat remake of the first + star wars trench run. But it is a f-ing great ride. I'd say the original Avatar, seen in good 3d theaters, was better than Maverick in story and experience. Great to hear this one at least matches it.

[@comacoz2438]

Erin, what is our 8th main topic today, even though main implies one, what is the 22nd main topic?

[@timmadone8930]

Actually James Cameron was on set for just about the entire shoot of "Piranha Part 2: The Spawning". Paull Goldin has already confirmed this & he should know since the actor was in the entire movie as apposed to just a few scenes. He said James, Lance, Tricia, were all great to work with & James handled things very professionally despite being fired ( twice ) & re-hired. Anyway I'm very excited for "Avatar: The Way Of Water". It will be a huge hit unless we end up with another health crisis in the weeks ahead. Nice & enthusiastic discussion.

[@DamielBE]

True Lies is one of the few remakes that turned out better than the original, called "La Totale" by Claude Zidi. Arnold Schwarzenegger taking over the role orignally camped by Thierry Lhermiite and Jamie Lee Curtis completely overshadowing Miou Miou in the role of the wife turned fake spy turned hostage turned actual agent gave a truly epic feel to the movie, something that La Totale lacked (although one scene is almost completely identical as it is iconic: the dropped uzi that keeps on firing better than any Stormtrooper). True Lies stars are used to action flicks. Claude Zidi's cast, part of the La Troupe Du Splendide actor collective, are more used to comedy than action, and it showed. Great movies, both of them, done in two completely different scopes

[@JonnySuite13]

People should actually bet cash money against Cameron, see how much they lose.

[@JordanNMusic]

Never doubt James Cameron. I’m excited to see the film. Someone help tho 😭 should I see the movie in IMAX or Dolby Cinema first?

[@themango6140]

Imax 3D for best experience is what I heard

[@ScottSullivanTV]

IMAX for the expanded aspect ratio.

[@JordanNMusic]

@@themango6140 I figured because I read it was filmed on IMAX cameras. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@JordanNMusic]

@@ScottSullivanTV solid. I didnt see the first in IMAX - just regular 3D - wanna change that for the sequel. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@Big_Red1]

@@JordanNMusic Better idea, see it in IMAX.... then go see it in Dolby right after 😁

[@AMKmusic96]

Art is subjective, those who love Avatar will always see its beauty, others will not or will learn to see its beauty over time

[@AMKmusic96]

@@missioncodez It seems you've misunderstood my comment. If you notice I said "others will not" meaning those who will never enjoy the films and have every right not too. Like I said art is subjective some will like it and some will not. Then there are people who will grow to love it over time that is a perfectly valid claim since I myself have disliked certain films but upon watching them again have changed my opinion. Hope that clears it up for you 🙂

[@greghefley3626]

@@missioncodez U seem like a fun guy

[@stephenjones4013]

Long run times are needed when it comes to fleshing out

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

I already booked a ticket for dec 18 Sunday. I'm curious. Being a space exploration enthusiast i loved avatar 1 as a kid

[@kennethlui2268]

I already bought advance tickets for my family to watch it. I can't say it will surpass the first one in box office, I would say though it will reach 2 billions. Just seeing the 3D in an IMAX is already a treat.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Robert Meyer Burnett, holy fucking SHIT this guy GETS IT!!! Get this guy his own show because honestly??? I'm pretty much here for him and his take, because he pretty much says shit the way it is and I happen to like agree with him 99% of the time. Dude, CHEERS and well said and pretty much spot on with the romanticism outlook.

[@similarrose5811]

He has his own show on his channel

[@Sleep_jaywalking]

It's not that deep, bro.

[@CamReeds]

Titanic had 2 VHS tapes

[@CVal012]

That's true. We had it in the family when i was little

[@markoportuondo7375]

I don’t think it’s 3 hour+ runtime will hurt it. Remind you that it’s gonna be out during Christmas vacation as well as January not having much competition, so I think it’ll have huge longevity at the box office.

[@maylay_rising]

I love Rob so much

[@thewadz5878]

I have been waiting for this move for over ten years. I've never doubted that it would succeed. These reviews don't surprise me, i'm just so excited to watch this thing.

[@EnterpriseGeek]

Rob, your speech moved me😢

[@NiGHTS1980]

The thing about the first Avatar and why it made so much money was the buzz around the 3D. It kicked off the next generation of 3D movies and the ticket prices were a lot higher as well. Because yeah, the movie itself didn't reinvent the genre and it's essentially just a CGI film which was done before. It was all about the 3D element. I mean, in China alone it made 400 million. In Australia it did around 100 million. These are numbers which were unheard of then and even today for these kinds of countries. But I saw the first one in the cinema and the buzz at the time was the IMAX 3D was something which needed to be seen in a cinema. And as you have said, the only way you hit 1, 2 or 3 billion is from repeat viewings. People were going back 2, 3, 5 times to see it. Fast forward to 2022 and the 3D era is now well and truly dead as is the excitment for it. We've had 10+ years of a comic book cinematic universe in the MCU which has taken over all the buzz. So I don't know how well this second movie will do despite how good it is.

[@deezee206]

And now I think MCU quality is dying too

[@MrBrock314]

Bad 3D is dead. Good 3D is not. Avatar (2009) is about the only example of actual good 3D. If this movie's visuals were 90% as good, it would still blow away every movie released in the last decade in visuals. However, while the visuals were very cool and were definitely the main topic, people didn't just see it for the visuals, it was a decent story and had good action too. A movie can't be good in only one category to have legs as a rule. Avatar might not be ground-breaking in every field but it is still a very good sci-fi movie, a good action movie and has decent acting. Writing - could be better, could be worse. Score - good/great. Sound design/cinematography - also good/great. Most of the movie is great in fact. The weakest elements were the acting (sorry Sam Worthington!) and writing (unobtainium, that could be better...). The originality wasn't intended so that's not a criticism.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

No, in China (at a time where there were like 90% less screens than what they have now, today) it made $200 million. Fast 5 made over $400 million there. And I've been saying this for years now. Avatar 2 WILL indeed make 3 billion whether it gets help from North America or not. If a film like Fast 5 grosses over $400 million in modern era china than Avatar 2 will make $1 billion in china alone hence why I strongly believe this has a shot at 3 billion. This is the kind of film buddhists and spiritual dwellers go crazy over. I'm one of them. This is just one of those universal films that everyone will go see, liking it or hating it. My mother despised the first one and saw it in the theaters. She just thinks the blue people are ugly and doesn't understand how people relate to them. Well guess what? She still wants to go see the second one in the theater in 3D as she thinks the world is spectacular.

[@christopherd.1200]

Hello- another thought. people are forgetting the 3 excellent documentaries he's made since Titanic.

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

Ridley Scott's Legend was a "visual masterpiece", but I wouldn't watch it again unless I had to. Screenplay, screenplay, screenplay. Most important aspect to filmmaking! Then comes editing, cinematography, acting, and directing. The top 5.

[@ku9833]

❤I got tickets for this I look forward to it it’s been to long

[@briansutton6354]

Took like 50 years to make, it better be superior.

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

It’s been 84 years..

[@Vrillxn]

Not even close lmaoo

[@Imylover]

I totally agree about the missing romance thing! That is the nr 1 reason why SW has not been working the last decade (there are numerous more reasons than that, mind you). But Reylo is not romance, that is something disturbing & at best nothing you care about, had no build-up. The Mandalorian still works because it is about a father & a son, & that is honestly the only romance, or deep emotional bond, I can think of that Disney SW has produced. We all love Grogu because he's cute & adorable & all that but what truly makes him work is the love & bond he shares with his foster-dad Din, they both look after each other. What made the original SW OT work? The magic trio & their friends. Breaking that up was the absolute biggest mistake in movie history! Cameron understands this. He's not breaking up the Sully family, they have expanded hugely & the more TV spots & trailers we get we see the love & respect between a husband & his wife & their kids. I have my ticket since weeks back! Bring on the romance, I say! I have not gotten anything properly in a decade. And I am starving. I wanna cry my eyes out! And the TV spots & trailers already manage to do that.

[@starwarsfan9575]

Star wars Prequels also have romanticism and a lot of heart. I know people criticise them and i am aware of their flaws but i genuinely feel a child like wonder while watching them. And i think specially Phantom Menace is overlooked the most - if you see Anakin’ s perspective its quite good, for example the scene where ANakin leaves his mother is very emotional, especially if you see it from a child’s perspective

[@Imylover]

@@starwarsfan9575 Totally agree! The SW Prequels never get the full recognition they deserve. Sure, they are flawed & could have been made better. But they for sure have the romance of what story telling & cinema is & was always meant to be. Complete escapism, transporting us elsewhere, making us feel all sorts of things. Romance on film is not just about boy meets girl & they fall in love, no. It is the very romantic idea, perspective, of what a story should be & can be. Something more than what our everyday lives in our real world is. Romance is all about dreaming & hoping for what could be, more & better, happier. The Prequels is a tragedy but is such a vital part of what is SW. My fav of them is actually AOTC, the one no one likes.

[@starwarsfan9575]

@@Imylover AOTC is not bad at all, but my favourite is ROTS. Although there is something special about Phantom Menace that I quite cannot put the finger on - I feel the same way about Phantom Menace and New Hope - there is a nice calming effect that both these movies have like the feeling of being in the comfort of your home. Maybe I am rambling but its nice to interact with a fellow prequel fan!!

[@ZulcanPrime]

I hope James Cameron gets involved with the remastered version of The Abyss in 4K.

[@TheMellowMutantShow]

That would be cool

[@MeisterGlanz86]

And direct Alita:Battle Angel 2

[@genrihlanevsky6612]

I’d like to see the Abyss on big screen. IMAX preferably

[@dineshrashid2766]

Yes please, it’s very sad that both The Abyss and True Lies have gone as long as they have without a Blu-ray or a 4K Blu-ray release.

[@ДенисКондратьев-у9ъ]

Obviously, all these very positive reviews are part of the promotion of the film to gain more people to see it.

[@educate3d]

Lol or maybe it’s actually a good film

[@anduinslayer4829]

@@educate3d Early reviews should always be taken with a grain of salt.

[@blackpanda7612]

@@anduinslayer4829 Its James fucking Cameron. His last 2 movies made over 1.5 billion. That's not easy to get to. It took the MCU almost a decade to get anywhere near that.

[@anduinslayer4829]

@@blackpanda7612 You could argue that it wasn’t easy for Marvel to get to where they are now too. A decades worth of hype and world building is not an easy feat. No franchise has made the money that the MCU has. Forgot to mention but Avengers 1 was Marvels first billion dollar film (1.5 billion) so it didn’t take a decade to get there.

[@michaeljohnson8868]

I already know everyone is up in arms about the visuals. No duh they're impressive lol What I care about most are the story and characters. Is the story more unique than the first? Are the characters more 3 dimensionsal than before? That's what I'm more curious about. That's what makes me love a movie. When I can't wait to be told that story again.

[@LARKXHIN]

Right lol I'm excited to see it for the visuals but yeah it's not quite rocket science to beat the first one after 10 years.

[@blackpanda7612]

Well no shit. That's what all the reviewers have been praising alongside the stunning visuals.