Bluetooth STILL can't do HI-RES AUDIO (and iPads aren't free)

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[@jcappleman]

I’ve been using the loudness wars database to find albums on CD with the best dynamic range and they are almost always original recording mixes and mastering. I have purchased several albums that I also own in high resolution and the sound quality is noticeably better and less harsh. I’ve been engaged in this hobby for 10 years and I feel that I’ve been duped by Hi-Res audio. Hi-Res is great for recently released music, but Hi-Res releases of the albums I’ve tested so far are still dynamically compressed enough to sound harsh at times. As mentioned on the Darko Audio podcast, it took digital playback gear awhile to catch up but now that DACs and filters are for the most part very good and affordable the superior sound quality of original mixes are even more apparent. I want to say thank you John for helping to open my eyes and ears to enjoy my music even more.

[@mychildrenareashamedtobese3398]

For iPhone users, a cheap phone stand, lightening two port camera kit and a THX Onyx takes are of all of this for around $200. If you have a watch it works as a remote control. If you absolutely can not be without your phone in your hand, a used iPod touch or old phone without service that can load a current OS can do quite well and we are still well below the fiio price for bit perfect.

[@mongo2044]

I did same but with a Hidizs s9 a few years ago, the one with the AKM chip. But, no watch (no money!) So like Darko, I typically just play CDs (stereo, haha) on an ancient Phillips or; stream Apple Music from the last Lightning remote, closeout, ATV4K (set to Atmos because I like it) or via Airplay (set to stereo, lossless). So, a lot of hi-res lossless options down to Airplay, which I could send to an earlier firmware Airport Express 2 (Airplay 1!) but I can’t tell the difference so, strait to Airplay 2 built into my amp.

[@user-ux5go7gv6d]

I am happy using my iPad Pro (that I use for everything else, including work) via USB C to my external DAC with Hi-res capabilities. And this saves me around EUR 800 that would only buy me some cool VU meters in the EverSolo and a remote/control app, along with the risk of it becoming obsolete due to the lack of Android updates in the long run. I would replace my iPad anyway in the future, so it isn't really a question for me (and I believe for many iPad users). Great video tough, as usual!!!

[@chrishumphries7697]

Thank you for continuing to beat the drum over dynamic range and compression issues in mastering. For years I have reluctantly turned my back on a lot of good music that is poorly mastered and instead often found myself honing in on less ideal music but that sounds dynamic. It actually drives me batty.

[@bruceevans3746]

I have found that using a Dbx Dynamic range expander I can restore some of the excitement lost in music compression.

[@arnarringheim6922]

Most important thing I took from this, which is very true, is that indeed hi res audio means nothing without a proper mastered album/track which in quality varies by a lot

[@kiv9431]

Btw, if someone already owns iPad Pro with Apple Smart Keyboard, they can charge the iPad using the keyboard USB C port and connect iPad to external DAC through iPad USB C port simultaneously. No 3rd party dongles or splitters required. I wouldn’t recommend purchasing both solely for AM streaming as it’s too pricey for the purpose, but it’s a good use case if you already own the combo anyway. Oh, and I connect my iPad to Cambridge Audio CXA 61 amplifier via USB.

[@masterchef6694]

Thanks for diving deep into this topic

[@aarondr0pdead]

Thanks John, looking forward to part two.

[@adamcanterbury]

Love this subject and format…TY for your hard work and quality production 😊

[@tedjensen8841]

Thank you for the in-depth video. Very much appreciate your insight into this topic.

[@Svboru1]

Thank you so much for this series! It was very helpful. Just joined your Patreon as well to say thank you (and your playlists are amazing)!

[@Blaira89]

This is a fantastic video, John! Love the format and pace. Really enjoyable.

[@neekondrums]

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate how in depth you go into these things, and mostly how I appreciate you giving all the correct information rather than glossing over differences that "most people" aren't going to notice. It's refreshingly respectful for you to give the information as accurately as you can so that people can decide for themselves what parts matter to them (as opposed to what many reviewers seems to do, which is try to sound absolute about things because that is what they imagine an authoritative voice should do). It's very helpful to hear, for instance, that although you don't particularly care to chase hi-res audio for your own listening pleasure, it is incorrect and misguided to call something hi-res or bit perfect just because it can upsample and output greater than CD quality resolution. Thank you for being reliable by putting forth care and effort. It's noticed.

[@cheeky1664]

I love how thoughtful, well considered and thought provoking these followup videos are. Thank you John 👍😁👍

[@jackiedurk8799]

Thank you so much for all your reviews. Really appreciate all the informative videos.😊

[@robvandendolder3157]

Another great one , thanks John😎👍

[@peturstefansson]

I am very grateful for your explanations on this technical side of Hi-Res audio transmission via Bluetooth, Apple and Android software and devices from them.

[@davehood1514]

I use my old Google pixel phone with usb audio pro app and chord mojo dac into my Hifi stream amazon music the high resolution is cheap and sounds fantastic.

[@taidee]

Thanks JD, on point as usual on this topic.

[@jonathanleach3914]

Very helpful. Thank you

[@RobertHartmannJnr]

Excellent and revealing clarification, thanks. Nice opener from Cody High.

[@BillyVerden]

Hmm.. that's the cleanest, clearest intro audio I've heard in a long time.. Cool..

[@absolutium]

Thanks for elaborating in regard of the 48kHz downsample/upsample.. I really don't care about high res but I really like when a device manages a direct integer for 44.1 and 48kHz.

[@Synthysizer]

I'd never considered mastering and dynamic range seriously until encountering your content reviewing it, so thank you for continuing to point out it's significant impact!

[@osmanyhernandez4539]

Just as a starter, you have become my go-to channel (and information source…yes, I also read your website) about audio, and the fact that you’ve made this series of videos about Apple Music is amazing. But…IMO it was de video about Dynamic Range that “woke me up”, I think most people in the audio world is aware of it, but the way in which you present it was just…”in your face”😂. The end of this video sums it all, the mastering has the bigger weight!…and as a side note, I’m planning to become supporter after I graduate…you know 😅. Thanks!!

[@andrewwebb1911]

Thanks John.

[@ChrisAudio1200]

BT will never handle Proper Lossless music. Wires have existed for decades and will always be the one

[@PM-wt3ye]

ALWAYS is quite a long time... Not so sure about that

[@venvedam]

Thanks John, never thought of charging and connecting my dongle DAC to my phone in parallel, that's great 😊

[@driscollmichaelmd]

Great video. As always. What I enjoy most after the content is the music in your videos! Do you have a playlist? Ideally on Tidal. Thanks.

[@shawntoronto7967]

All I want is my Apple TV 4K to do all high res formats over HDMI. Simple for the user, great interface - nothing to confuse the consumer.

[@mychildrenareashamedtobese3398]

The not hi res you get under your current circumstances is still really good. Enjoy it and don't pull your hair out. A speaker upgrade has far more impact than chasing the tiny differences between lossless and hi res. I have spent a ton of money figuring out I shouldn't have spent a ton of money. Enjoy your setup.

[@mongo2044]

I think HDMI standards limit this, plus cost, adoption, etc.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS JOHN 👍 FOR EXPLAINING IN UNDERSTANDABLE TERMS…JUST HOW NICHE THIS IS AND HOW THE QUALITY OF THE MUSIC IS MORE IMPORTANT…I PERSONALLY CAN RELAX 🤗 AND JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC 🎼🎹🎺🎷

[@mongo2044]

Shout it brother!

[@VanNostrum]

Great video John! In my case somehow when the apple tv updated i managed to get hi-res audio out but when using plex app (not apple music) and a hi-res source in my NAS. Keep up the good work!

[@aodhanmorrissey]

Great video John. I gotta ask though..where do you get your music for your videos? It's always extremely good.

[@tigertiger1699]

Really appreciate your cut to facts & highlighting all the red herrings

[@salvamando1]

Another extremely useful and entertaining video! Bravo and thank you for putting these out! Cheers from San Francisco!

[@ThomasZander]

Thanks for the details on the (terrible) FiiO software update management! It's good that this problem gets some attention in your video!

[@mauriciolopezfranco8493]

Great great video! Much clear panorama. The Sonos at some point is a good option for wireless listening.. and for the higher resolutions, you can add a DAC (the ifi is great).. so i can figure out how to complete my setup at least :) Fantastic videos as always !

[@PlanetFrosty]

I think you did a great job!

[@pinkyfloydyfan1]

I know that this is not the subject here, but i want to share with you my discovers: Here are my top ten hifi listenings: ALBUMS: 1. PATRICIA BARBER: Café blue or Clique! (32 bits or 4xDSD, a standard on hifi shows); 2. SHELBY LYNNE: Just a little lovin' (so in love...); 3. DIANA KRALL: Turn up the quiet (her voice so well recorded, microphone near her mouth...); 4. NILS LOFGREN: Acoustic live (the guitars so well recorded, another standard on hifi shows); 5. KEITH GREENINGER: Close to the soul (a pure DSD record); SONGS: 6. FINK: Perfect darkness (the subtlety of the percussion, the soft acoustic guitar, the relaxed voice... a delight!); 7. BRIAN BROMBERG: Elephants on ice skates (the bass and drum... just wow!); 8. GHOST RIDER: Make us stronger (a spectacular song for everyones who want to know the power of bass/electronic); 9. YELLO: Till tomorrow (bass and trumpet... at their best!); 10. THE FAIRFIELD FOUR: These bones (just for the fun to listen the lower bass voice you will ever listen to! 100% sure). Have fun!

[@markjovi5572]

Excellent video

[@jimalbruzzess2445]

Great video John. The piano parts between segments sounded really good, FYI. Yes gapless lossless all the way. I agree, cd quality is great. Don't really care about crazy bit rates though. Have a great week.

[@bling5279]

You should be able to connect the Ipad directly to the R7 via USB. (Ipad as source and R7 as DAC/Amp.) I connect my Ipad to the Fiio K9 Pro that way.

[@robertreyes6664]

Great review!

[@ahmadfodeh3413]

Review of what exactly ? He's not even reviewing anything ...

[@bbfrid88]

I agree that the mastering quality is far more important than the bit rate, etc. Thanks for the information. Btw, when does the interview with pbthal air?

[@mongo2044]

For sure!

[@mattcavanough]

Loved seeing DR darabase briefly displayed. Needs more attention ❤

[@danielkrass5357]

A friend built me some pentacon to XLR and to trrs cables using internal strands of a multicore vdc for about £20. Haven't compared to ifi cable, but sounds good to me.

[@ryward]

I'm inclined to believe that Apple might not prioritize high-resolution audio support over Bluetooth, even with upcoming standards. Instead, they're likely to develop a proprietary solution that ties closely to their hardware ecosystem. They might even redefine what 'high-resolution' means by introducing distinct features and definitions-perhaps something like "Spatial Quality"-to set it apart as uniquely Apple.

[@gehtnurdurch]

I really enjoy the classical, lossless and bit perfect video transitions. Maybe you can add a high res logo to it next time, that would be perfect😄

[@wr7629]

thank you for this review and also your previous review on Apple Music!!! it really helps a lot in giving us all the RIGHT information. i had recently switch from Tidal to Apple Music because they have the song i like that Tidal don't. After researching online and watching your video, i went for the ipad 12.9 Pro and hock it up to my Dell WD19S dock to get bit perfect from Apple music. 🙂

[@pollensteyn]

As a service I really like Apple Music, and it pains me a bit that I need to have a Qobuz subscription as well to integrate streaming audio with my hifi system. I think we mustn’t stress the need for hi-res audio from Apple Music, but just the need for easy/easier integration of AM in our audio setup, hi-res or not. That probably won’t ever happen, but if it would, it surely would mean trouble for Tidal, Qobuz and the likes of them.

[@12P14D22C]

while having a better source is always welcome. if you have good equiptment the source quality, if you take anything atleast decent is so good these days. it really is a minimal factor. Just get Speakers and room right. Amp can help as well. If you nail these ur at 95%+ already. You can only gain minimal gains later. That being said. An apple tv with apple music subscription and enabled high quality source material and there u are. Having the best audio quality avaiable. If you are someone who wants bit perfect output. You can do it either with a iPhone or a Mac instead. They either allow u to change output format or adjust it depending on what is currently played. But u cant hear that anyway. Theres no single system in the world where u can hear the diffrence between 24bit/48khz and 24bit/192khz. Its just beyond both, human hearing and our ability to reproduce sound. So thinking about it or chasing it will just draw u away from what matters. Speakers / Placement / Room. and as said, having bad amps is bad as well, obviously.

[@gregsLyrics]

Goodness - how about unpacking the audio stream of KZbin? Brilliant vid, btw.

[@4ujase]

Not really a fan of Apple Tea Trays with visuals but Mr. Darko you're the man when it comes to reviews :)

[@javiergandia2012]

¡Me gustan estos vídeos! ✌

[@Jo-np7rr]

Thanks! Great sum up video. Why apple don’t let us use old devices as media central. We Just need Apple Music remote control like Spotify it has.

[@Jpreston01]

Thanks for the follow up video. My only question is for those of us that do have the newest iPads. What is the best DAC to use for our systems? Thanks and have a great day

[@VishnuKare]

Fiio M11 plus ess DAP connected to yamaha home theater system via coaxial. Apple music lossless playing through Yamaha speakers is a room filling joy.

[@johnseddon2955]

Thank you John. This is a relevant and interesting topic. It feels like some parts of the industry are opaque with the truth

[@festerfeet7302]

Well done John, that was an excellent “final” deep dive into subject it was well researched and presented. I suspect there is a reason that Apple have decided to go the route they have. It could be technical but is most likely commercial.

[@mistafishman]

So this may not be the most glamorous approach but I’ve been using a long USB cable from the couch (with my iPhone) to the DAC and I hide it under a rug. Just another idea for those working with Apple Music. Really liked the comparisons of solutions at the end John!

[@mdi800]

I have my Mac connected to my dac with the remote app on my phone to control it, not bit perfect but works well with my b&o analog multi room system.

[@David-Ellis]

Hmm, if you already have an iPad [lots of people do] and your amp contains a decent inbuilt DAC [like a Hegel does] then Apple Music streaming does come at the very reasonable price of a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter from Apple at £45. The adapter lets you power the iPad whilst also streaming via USB.

[@DarkoAudio]

But you still have to pay for the iPad at some point. It isn't $0. But hey, I'm repeating myself because this was covered in the video. Happy listening!

[@David-Ellis]

Hmm, but I already bought an iPad [to do many other tasks] years ago, so adding the adapter for £45 is a no brainer. Of course if you have to go out and buy an iPad just for streaming its different - but [at the risk of repeating myself] lots of people already have an iPad@@DarkoAudio

[@bryanherr1093]

@@DarkoAudio I would argue the Eversolo and Fiio aren't free either and an Ipad can do a lot more than just stream apple music.

[@gilbertrenebogaert2316]

@@DarkoAudio Yes an iPad isn’t cheap but the Main difference is that the other two only play music, where the iPad is also a compact computer. Playing Music is in this case a Nice to have add-on

[@citytianyu]

I am amazed that people has 3 or 5 thousands dollars amp (and very likely also own similar priced speakers) argues about why should have a 800 dollars dedicated music streamer/dac. Is streamer a new thing today?

[@canuckchris5733]

I get excited when I see that your talking about Apple Hi-Res and Dacs I’ve gone down a lot of rabbit holes chasing Hi-Res and have bought a pair of AirPod Pro 2 usb C Buds as my comprise There come a point when I guy just wants convenience and noise cancellation and a Decent budget Sound As you said I’m more invested in the dynamic range aspects of Hi-Res with my 65 year old Ears. And like many of us hope Apple will hook us up with something like an Airplay/Bluetooth option down the road, thus the usbc version of the recently purchased AirPod Pro 2,s

[@jonathanmoore8886]

Got a 5a that updated to 14.

[@JustLearning]

I may be wrong but I think you can have the battery on your old iPad replaced.

[@tolor3254]

Watching at the moment on an old iPad had the battery replaced by a local phone/electrical shop for £45, been absolutely fine since😊

[@mongo2044]

You could just power it with the Lightning cable and repurpose it as a high resolution audio player. Cost: €0.

[@francesschaefer]

Yes good thinking!

[@user-mz6lt2pr9s]

Thanks for the video. I have moved on from Apple Music to streaming with my Node connected to my Rotel preamp using the Rotel internal DAC. The Rotel displays the streaming rate. Use the BluOs app on my iPad and iPhone to control my source usually using Qobuz. It’s interesting listening to CD quality 44.1 Hz all the way up to 192Hz HiRes. The sound quality and volume required to get the same loudness varies. Usually the 44.1 Hz is louder and can sometimes sound better to my old ears depending on the track. A lot of debate about the sound quality of HiRes since HiRes tracks and albums flagged in Qobuz or other services are usually remastered versions. Have A/B tested streaming versions vs. CDs I own and the sound quality is very close. Sometimes the CDs sound better but the user experience of streaming usually wins out. I Like controlling everything from my recliner instead of this old man having to get up and change the CD.

[@MikeB-gg1ns]

Hi Darko, many thanks for research 😊. I also was thinking how can I connect Apple Music to my hi-end music system. First thought was about Apple 4K tV box as a transport (HDMI)to my AV processor but the question is how will I see Apple Music interface without any screen around 😂 plus what default virtual player will be in such connection? I doubt that can control tv box from my iPhone and see all my music as I see on computer. After your last 2 videos I understood that if I want Apple Music in Hi Res the only way is via iPad with USB C as a transport connected to my AV multichannel processor and seems no more solutions. I love Apple Music and Apple eco system and don’t want to change it. Will be extremely interesting if you proceed investigating this question. Thank you again😊😊😊

[@Gustel]

Now that this topic is done? I would like to see what your setups would look like, maybe even different price points of audio setups. (Headphones, speakers, amps, etc.)

[@spud1300]

I love these deep dives. The quest for apple music hi-fi still goes strong.... but since I caved and got the airpods pro 2, man I can't really complain about how lossy bluetooth apple music sounds on those, especially with the noise cancellation. Yes, my U12ts sound better, but I almost wish I could just learn ignorance because my ears are perfectly happy grooving to lossy tunes even when my brain isn't, with the freedom of wireless.

[@jeffpaolone]

I’m curious about home pod and HomePod mini. Has these been any testing on the quality they are putting out?

[@casperjansen8553]

Android 14 does include it. But it needs to be activated/Integrated by the developers of that particular music app.

[@Themanthatisi]

My setup for streaming is…..Tidal streaming, iPad for usb to DAC for my headphone amps, android with aptx for BT to DAC when needed on my main system, when im not using apple tv, hdmi audio.

[@ProfessorHamer]

Replace the lightning camera connector with the updated version that has power input, and keep your iPad as the dedicated streamer. Also, there are many desktop class dacs that work with Apple Music on iOS such Topping, and Fiio even has one that will route the usb directly to spdif, thus making it compatible with any dac.

[@robertwarner2541]

Agree with all you say in the video - I feel if you are going to commit to something then you should do it right - if we are going lossless and Hi Res then we should try to aim for bit perfect playback - hence my decision to drop Apple Music and go the Qobuz / Roon route so I can check I am getting the music file as intended - very much agree that mastering is more important than hi res bit rates - is there a sweet spot you could do a video about? - albums that are brilliantly mastered with high dynamic range AND available in Hi Res format? - is this where an audible difference would be found vs listening to the same master on a CD?

[@Gregdsilva915]

I am old but I can definitely hear hi res music and cd quality is the best regardless . I like the convenience of streaming and my hearing gravitates to hi res music, I feel more comfortable listening to it and I can listen for longer period of time as it is more comfortable to listen to and I am not straining to find the detail.

[@ChristosTsitselis]

Good points as always BUT Darko, ipads are tools that many of us professionals use also to make money. You can't do that with any fiio 😂. So yes, ipads are not free, yes if someone only buys one to use as a hi res audio streamer (what a waste really) probably can cover that need with better hardware, BUT ipads provide Free hi res quality stream, to those of us that use them for other reasons AND use them some times for audio 😊. Hope my comment makes sense 😂

[@keithcoxshall7497]

JD makes a comment regarding iPads not being free. I am using an old iPad Air , purchased in 2015, specifically as a steamer , connected to an external Dac and Naim Amp. Battery is getting low but leave it permanently plugged in to mains. (Could replace battery for £100). It works superbly and having been purchased 8 years ago does not owe me much. Latest Apple update installed today (15.8). Highly recommended use of old iPad.

[@supes323]

It is also worth noting that playing apple music direct from Eversolo to DAC vs Ipad to DAC via usb sounds significantly better in all aspects. I had experimented with this for hours today switching back and forth and the eversolo just sounds so much better on every track I tested. The only reason I kept on trying the ipad direct into the dac option was to convince myself I dont need the eversolo so I can sell it however the sound quality from the ipad just sounds so lifeless, narrow soundstage, less separation, less dynamics. Unfortunately I am keeping the eversolo until I can find a cheaper alternative. However I do wonder If I had an ipad with a usb C output vs lighting if it would sound any better.

[@kiv9431]

I wish I could fully remotely control Apple Music app on iPad from my iPhone. Remote playback control is available but it’s not good enough

[@danielmartin4359]

Fiio's are great devices. I currently have a Fiio M15S and love it. had a Fiio M11Plus but the touch screen started to die. I like your point about DNR which is poo, you would actually think the Range would be larger/better being if there are 'remastering' (and promoting this awesome version of) albums with 24/96 they would sound better than the CD or standard version of an album since there's a larger sample rate/range.

[@Rob-Davidson]

How long did you have you M11 Plus before the screen started messing up?

[@mrfrosty3]

When I first got into better audio I was very eager to listen to hi-res audio, two years later I didn't care about it at all.

[@nicekit]

i thought u can use an ordinary USB hub with iPad that have USB C output and USB-C PD input as well as SDcard reader

[@paulhalucha526]

Such a great video John. One of the best ever. I will keep enjoying streaming Apple Music from my iPad to my hifi system, to my home theatre from Apple 4K, to my Tesla and Tesla from the integrated App. I find the sound quality really excellent, the APP superb and the ecosystem integration unbeatable. It always works for both my wife and I. Would like like lossless but I always have my CDs of most of the music that is really important to me.

[@mattyjoyce1]

What bout HomePod gen 2, either. Via Apple TV or on their own (paired ) , lossless ?

[@Octocoupler]

How do you find the solidsteel speaker stands, do you think they are too wide at the bottom. Finding them very hard to buy in Ireland along with the eversolo

[@user-iz2rn8px6t]

In your web version you’ve talked about the app lossless for Mac OS that bit perfects Apple Music streaming. It’s not perfect, but I’ll be glad if you can say something about it Tnx You’re awesome!

[@SeanOkita]

Looks like the Apple TV no longer upsamples to 48khz with it's 17.2 update.

[@joelo5164]

Google kept the lossless audio feature in the back burner and haven't included it for A14

[@gonzol46]

Agreed😊👍

[@datdudeinred]

Probably the best audio Mythbusters channel

[@rubendasilva8634]

Thanks for info, but is it streaming losless when I’m streaming directly to my nad c399 bluOs build in mode? Streaming on Qobuz

[@leonardopapantoniou4227]

Hi. Is it safe to use an android 7 dap such as Shanling m3x?

[@macmovieman1]

I have a KEF LS50W2 and I can’t tell if I should listen to 1) Apple Music through the KEF app wirelessly or 2) or HDMI through my eArc on my Samsung 49” G9?

[@BryanCurtis2014]

ipads have other uses though ,which you are not considering. Also you didnt mention the Eversolo can have a storage added for offline playback. You seem to have a bias towards towards the Fio

[@FunnyVideosLover]

I bought a used MacBook Air for 2015 for 120 bucks to stream Apple Music. I can charge while I use usb dac to draw music data out full rez. However i think i am not getting hi rez stream directly into kef ls50 wireless via usb connection out of MacBook.

[@mygarart2764]

Any test coming up on the marvelous « Yamaha R-N 2000a » ?

[@nottodaypal2143]

you just helped Apple sell a bunch of ipads and subscriptions to apple music, to a bunch of "audiofiles" just by saying extra cabels are needed😂 great video btw.👍🏻 hope you one day also will make a video about apple digital master and how good aac has become. Keep on playing🎵

[@_zeketorres]

Awesome video, thanks John! So I guess in order to do Apple Music right you need an Android Fiio? That’s crazy!! Fiio looks funny, any better looking devices like the Fiio that can do Apple Music playback justice??

[@Techman2ch]

Or an IPAD with a USB C to A cable, or a Eversolo A6

[@boldsaikhanbulgankhuu5343]

What is the best option for LDAC wireless bt connectivity

[@2HatHudders]

I feel like John always does the Eversolo a little dirty. The Eversolo can also work as a music server/cd ripper. It's was a big feature that caused me to buy it in the end. Should have included that when complimenting the Fiio

[@joenovak6393]

100% percent Agree!!!!

[@spizzy7996]

Seems to be a recurring theme.

[@DarkoAudio]

Doing it dirty? Nope. I also sailed past many of the FiiO's more niche features to make sure that the video didn't run off track. This video's focus was Apple Music running on those devices and their general utility and not the CD ripping and local storage bay on the Eversolo; or the 2 x balanced XLR headphone outputs, variable USB output, external display hookups, IR remote, mini-keyboard control, SoundCloud, Mixcloud, Deezer, Amazon Music HD, Roon ARC or Plex playback available to the FiiO.

[@2HatHudders]

@@DarkoAudio A 'litte' dirty John, little being the operative word here. I understand your point in not including all features to maintain the flow of the video however I thought it pertinent to state that particular feature when commenting on the FiiOs ability to use an SD drive for offline playback. It felt a 'little' dirty not to state the Eversolo can also do this. It gives the impression it can't. Either way, I'm a fan, I really like and enjoy your content and my comments do not come from a place of consumer biass, hatred or spite. It was just an observation I found and decided to comment!

[@DarkoAudio]

I could see that -- and it's why I replied. ;) I think anyone watching my dedicated Eversolo review video would know what it can and can't do. The FiiO got the nod for the 'offline playback' point in this video because that's how Srajan at 6moons uses his and it's how I would use it if it were forced offline. And it also got the nod because, per my dedicated Eversolo video, I think the FiiO is the better sounding unit once the external PSU is added (which then makes it exactly the same price as the Eversolo).

[@sunewjenkuzo2835]

Guess I should just stay with youtube music since I only listen to music over bluetooth XD.