Johnny vs. Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition

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In today's episode, Devil May Cry 4 goes multi-platform, and HD! We got new blood this time, in the form of Nero. So, how does this game stack up? I rarely hear folks talk about this one, so let's find out why.
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[@SomecallmeJohnny]

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[@raghavpatel720]

I will Johnny

[@kinglegault]

its not just dmc. resident evil is also crowd with former power rangers. leon motion capture actor wes from time force. jill shes played by the pink space ranger. rebecca shes played by jen from time force. there are more just those are the ones i can think of off the top of my head

[@diegobendinelli2680]

If you can, go out of your way to get DmC Definitive Edition, it's so much better in so many ways... gameplay wise at least

[@adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407]

Turbo mode

[@Rabbitlord108]

There is ONE BIG change I've heard people like about DMC (in case you haven't heard already) It COMPLETELY gets rid of the classic Resident Evil style fixed camera angles.

[@YuukitheMighty1]

If you love Nero now, you're gonna fucking love him in DMC 5.

[@pyromaniacforhire]

DAMN FUCKIN RIGHT~!!!!

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

DMC 5 is just a wonderful showing for the entire cast. 💖

[@pyromaniacforhire]

@@Hey-Its-Dingo You Ain't lying, and even introduces Nico~ I truly hope she'll be back in DMC6 (maybe for a "Ladies' Night" DLC like we were supposed to originally get in 5?)~!

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

@@pyromaniacforhire So true. Nico holds a special place in my heart. 💖

[@pyromaniacforhire]

@@Hey-Its-Dingo Same here~ I love it when a character just *fits*, and that is the best way to describe her inclusion~💜

[@BioTroy]

Ladies and Gentleman, we've got him. He's gonna blow his mind with 5 and I can't wait to see it lmao

[@Twilight17Petkoton]

After he gets thought, the two worst games of DMC 1 and 2 of the bad version of Dante black hair not the sliver hair. Which, Matt saying D!ck move Capcom.

[@kickass12121]

@@Twilight17Petkotonyou having a stroke bruh?

[@travistotle]

I wish we could just enter a time warp and skip DmC (even though I like that game) and jump straight to his review of DMC 5. He's gonna LOVE that game

[@MakiKuronami]

@@travistotle think of it this way, he can briefly experience the sensation felt by DMC fans thanks to DmC before DMC5, so it'll make him appreciate it more.

[@AkaRyuusei97]

In a con panel some years ago, Reuben Langdon has stated that it was intentional getting former tokusatsu actors for DMC characters

[@kaimcdragonfist4803]

Yeah, I think they initially wanted to cast Patricia Ja Lee (Cassie, Pink from Turbo and In Space) as Lady but it fell through. Shame too because she’s awesome

[@byg4299]

This was in another interview he did, but IIRC the reasoning for this is because toku actors had the experience to do both the physical mocap work and the voice overs.

[@PhenomsServant4]

Could you imagine the alt reality if Jason David Frank ended up becoming a character? Annnnndddd now I just made myself sad😭

[@KaiserVarius]

Interesting.

[@tripodranger7873]

One thing the game doesn't really make clear, but the manual does, is that Nero is an orphan that was brought into Kyrie's family, so while it can seem like Credo is just Nero's boss that he doesn't get along with, there's a bit more to their relationship than that. Also, you can actually see Dante in the game's intro, twice, before Nero makes it to the opera. The first is when the camera does a flip with Nero. While it's pointed at the sky, for a split second you can see Dante looking down on the action from a rooftop. The second is when the camera pans out to give a big view of the city and the opera house (church?) Kyrie is singing in. Dante can be seen near the bottom of the screen on one of the roofs. He was keyed in on Nero before they even fought.

[@travistotle]

The MANUAL?? People were still reading manuals back in 2008?

[@Totallyarealhuman2210]

Even DMC5 has a manual, and that's a 2019 game (I guess it's somewhat still relevant to Japanese audiences?). There's also the canon-adjacent novel Deadly Fortune that was what Bingo Morihashi (or was it Itsuno?) said is how they wanted 4's story to originally play out. It has info/changes with big ones such as Nero's past as an orphan and how his Devil Bringer came to be one month (or was it six) prior to the game or how the Devil arms Dante got were actually bought from home and used at the bosses rather than them transforming into the weapons. It even has smaller plot threads such as when Lady fought the Angelos for the first time which would lead her to inform Dante of the Order's existence (after bringing it up to a demonic-artifact collector) and how devious Sanctus is with poisoning the old priest to claim his title (then briefly met Vergil after his innaguration-which bought him to the conclusion of Nero's origin in the present) as well as manipulating Angus and Credo's egos for his own bidding. Even has 3rd person POVs that fills some light on characters' mind (being Nero, Dante, Credo, Agnus, Sanctus, Lady, I think Trish as Gloria, and hell even Berial got one).

[@canontheory]

@@travistotle even games in 2013 had full colored Manuel’s with character and world lore, item and game mechanic descriptions in them

[@leithaziz2716]

I think DMC4 really wasted Credo's potential as a personal rival for Nero. We got one great fight against him, and then he dies.

[@leithaziz2716]

@@travistotle Dark Souls 1 had a manual/guidebook in 2011 with a lot of tidbits, but it was actually very incorrect with a lot of the statements it made about the game. Ether it was incorrect lore, or missunderstanding how certain mechanics worked.

[@ChibiTails]

Johnny, I can definitely appreciate you dealing with sponsorships in today's internet age, but Mike Tyson has got to be at the BOTTOM of the list of celebrities I'd trust to take care of my ears.

[@SomecallmeJohnny]

Thank you, I ugly laughed.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Hahaha! Sorry that one got a laugh out of me ^ brilliant.

[@MTdaBlacking]

For anyone who's curious, most (if not all) of Nero's moves are terms related to gambling. Table Hopper usually means someone switching tables in a casino/gambling hall while looking for a high payout. Which kind of explains why it's a dodging move.

[@bryceknowles1380]

Interesting, I didn’t know that.

[@MTdaBlacking]

@@bryceknowles1380 Yeah they do that again in DMC5 with V's moveset mostly named after chess tactics and the like.

[@MrSlendyMannn]

Legit didn’t know this. Thanks for the interesting info.

[@jacktwelve1710]

The time has Come and So Have I

[@PulseBladeenjoyer]

I’ll laugh last cause you came to die!!

[@sir_apathy]

The damage done, the pain subsides and I can see the fear clear when I look in your eyes!

[@mokkacicc4.019]

I never kneel and I'll never rest

[@Mekboy_ComputerMonster]

How can we sleep when our beds are burning?

[@PulseBladeenjoyer]

@@mokkacicc4.019 You can tear the heart from my chest!!!

[@CJKenjii]

Dante is such a douchy uncle in this game and I love it 😂

[@bcd32dok36]

He born to be a douchy and cool uncle

[@anthonyvasquez6113]

why would u expect anything less? 😂

[@ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528]

The ending of this game is such a tearjerker. I cried when Dante said "Maybe even a Devil May Cry 4 you" to Nero. Truly one of the moment in dmc history

[@ehmwhy]

Loved half way through the game when Kyrie got kidnapped and Nero looked right into the camera and said “It’s crying time” and cried all over the place.

[@theenderkirby]

​@@ehmwhy well with all honesty despite kyrie being a weak character all around I could felt nero's impact when he rapildy yelled and punched the floor

[@TylerRuins]

...dammit, I kinda wish that was in the game for real though! I can just imagine Dante giving some snark to Sanctus with a line like, "Sorry, pal, you'll get no sympathy from me. Hell, I doubt even a devil may cry for you." Like, it's *so* stupid, and I _love_ it!

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

oh god not this type of comments again.... I curse that f'n stupid spiderman vampire movie

[@leithaziz2716]

You joke, but when Nero asks Dante if they'll meet again, fans had to wait around 10 years for a continuation, since there was a big gap between DMC4 and 5. It made that scene bittersweet as a cliffhanger.

[@carlbloke8797]

I think I speak for everyone when I say that whenever a Marvel vs. Capcom 4 does happen, Nero HAS to be a playable character alongside Dante, Trish, and Vergil.

[@zigslotheon]

Uh Infinite?

[@uria3679]

If that happens, it’s going to be a victim of Movie Marketing

[@4LiveRastaJoy]

You mean MCU vs Capcom

[@bradlieone]

​@@zigslotheon Mvc fans like to pretend that game didn't happen including me tbh. No wolverine? Yea I can't play that

[@uria3679]

@@bradlieone it was also a victim of movie marketing

[@Harbluia]

Fun little fact. Kyrie is voiced by Stephanie Sheh who also voices Orihime Inoue in Bleach. Kyrie even looks like Orihime, specifically in her Hueco Mundo attire.

[@staticshock4239]

Which is why I always say DMC4 is just their take on a Bleach arc. I mean freaking Nero is voiced by Ichigo's voice actor as well and is trying to save Kyrie who as you pointed out is basically Orihime.

[@charlessegale6493]

His Devil Trigger is his bankai. XD

[@MyNameJefff]

Wait that’s the most fire piece of trivia I’ve ever heard. That’s insanely hype.

[@leithaziz2716]

I know next to nothing about Bleach, but seeing Ichigo and Orihime next to Nero and Kyrie, well I can certainly see the inspiration for their design in this game.

[@sonicfan2403]

I'm wondering if Capcom was on a Bleach high during this point of time XD

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

DMC4 introduced Nero meanwhile DMC5 fully realizes him as a character and truly sees the torch passed onto him

[@agreedboarart3188]

Meh

[@legendarycryptid2629]

Can't believe we got a special edition review for DMC4! Thanks, Johnny!

[@Lunatic89097]

BELIEVE IT!!!

[@meganinten0078]

Next review be like "F*ck you, Dante!"

[@orangeslash1667]

@@meganinten0078 Sad Fact: the Reason we DMC Devil May Cry is because Capcom was jealous of God of Wars sales and wanted DMC to appeal to the west more. In fact Japan was doing so poorly in sales that a lot of Japanese companies had to pander to the West to make sales.

[@kingbash6466]

I always had a huge soft spot for DMC4 because it was not only my first introduction to the seres, I also admittedly had a little bit of a crush on Nero in this game.

[@supersoupy4709]

fair

[@galaxy_kitten95]

Same here. While I don’t love DMC4, I certainly don’t dislike or hate the game either. It definitely has its flaws. Another addition why I liked Nero from the beginning is that he’s voiced by Johnny Yong Bosch. Literally every anime character he’s played are some of my top favorites and him being Nero was ideal casting.

[@meganinten0078]

Gloria is the main reason why I remember this game 😏 Underrated waifu 🥰 Such a shame she is just Trish wearing a disguise. Edit: DMC4 Dante looks weird... Not bad just weird 😅 At least he looks better than DMC3 Dante DMC2 has the best Dante's design ever

[@DigitalStatic]

can relate on crushing on Nero, he has my entire heart in this and especially 5

[@johnlawful2272]

@@meganinten0078 he's young in dm3

[@speedy932key4]

The one thing i will always remember about this game is the unused Devil Trigger designs for Nero and Dante. Especially Dante's,because his was actually a Perfect Devil Trigger,much like the second form he had in the second game. I really wonder where he would have unlocked that if it was kept in the game

[@firehedgehog1446]

Luckily that evolved into DMC 5's Sin Devil Trigger which is all kinds of badass

[@Rabbitlord108]

I can see it as a reward for completing the Bloody Palace as Dante with some sort of stipulation attached.

[@speedy932key4]

@Rabbitlord108 That's kind of like how the Ares armor was unlocked in the first God of War,right?

[@Rabbitlord108]

@@speedy932key4 Not sure. I haven't played God War. I was thinking of stuff like stipulations for fighting secret bosses in fighting games. Even if the reward is so unsatisfying it feels like a waste (Hi Night Terror from Soul Calibur 3)

[@speedy932key4]

@Rabbitlord108 Yeah,i know what you mean

[@thecardusguy5610]

16:09 When Gloria was revealed to be Trish, I immediately thought to myself “This was supposed to be its own character but the idea was scrapped due to time costraints”. I never checked to see if that’s true or just a silly headcanon, but I swear to God that’s what it feels like to me. So, so weird how they used an incredibly detailed and original design for a silly disguise.

[@gameman250]

And WTF is that outfit Gloria sports???

[@Comkill117]

It’s 100% true. A lot of story stuff was cut from 4, Gloria being no exception.

[@XxGamer42069xX]

Trish doing blackface was definitely a big plot twist

[@charlessegale6493]

Trish was just in her Lady Gaga phase, that's all. XD

[@RicochetForce]

Oh yeah, a ton of stuff was cut from this game.

[@OscarSanchez-vo9dx]

Theory as to why Dante is shown to be more chipper in this game vs 2, he saw Nero and knew he wasn’t alone, he lost his mother, father and brother but he has Nero

[@whodatninja439]

Or DMC2 means so little to Itsuno, or anyone, he did not give a crap to make it consistent. It is NOT a sequel to 2. It's a sequel to 3 and 1. At this point in time, DMC2 was set at the end of the time line so they wouldn't have to deal with it.

[@OscarSanchez-vo9dx]

@@whodatninja439 you’re not wrong actually now that I look back but having the full picture I feel 2 makes sense just being that sad middle chapter in Dante’s life where he’s left with nothing and it’s trying weird gimmicks, probably would’ve pulled the coin back out if Nero wasn’t there

[@rainingcomplete3018]

@@whodatninja439that is the meta reason, OP was finding an in universe reason.

[@M1YAK2]

The Proud Souls were a neat thing, but the problem is you had to grind them to hell and back. You didn't need to grind much since you got that bundle, but they were a pain, since the cost of the proud soul abilities increased each time you bought an ability. And you only gain proud souls at the end of each mission, or after you died. And you don't know how much you would get until you died or get to the end of a mission

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Well said, it’s like the saddest thing right? The combat and its pacing is fantastic but having to grind in a game with level design that wears thin so fast. IMO DMC4 is awesome to play but I rarely replay it.

[@JinzoFiter]

At least LDK softened the blow a little bit in the vanilla PC release. Since you fight so many enemies, you earn Proud Souls *way* quicker, I find.

[@armedweiss5531]

Not only that, but Proud Souls make the issue of Red Orbs eventually becoming useless EVEN WORSE since they take over their role for upgrades. And once you get all the abilities, Proud Souls now become actually useless. I'm really glad that 5 didn't take the same approach

[@kingdomkey2262]

Funnily enough it was worse in the OG version cause SE made it so you get proud souls faster.

[@XxGamer42069xX]

@@kingdomkey2262I was about to say I really never had an issue playing SE and acquiring the skills, never grinded them and felt like I was earning them at a fair pace that let me integrate new moves into my combos and feel fully comfortable with them before learning a new one, stopped me feeling like I had learnt everything halfway through the game.

[@metalgearskeletor]

Even though DMC4 is kinda rough at parts it’s remained my favorite DMC ever since I first played it. I just love the visuals and the story so much

[@XxGamer42069xX]

It also has the best location imo, 5 was great until halfway through where you’re just climbing the qilopth tower, dmc3 was just the demon tower the whole time but dmc4 had so much range in its locations

[@jaretco6423]

​@armgom4144 Shame in the 2nd halve, u have to revisit the same areas again, but backwards.

[@ZeroKnight95]

Correction: Nero's glowing arm is actually called the "Devil Bringer," not the "Buster." Buster is just the name of the grab move he uses with the Devil Bringer.

[@Mr_ULTMT]

Based Johnny for recognizing how peak this combat system is

[@Bardguy5623]

I love Dante’s interaction with the bosses throughout the series, but 4 has one of my favorites: killing Echidna in one shot after beating her, and saying “I think that look suits you better.”

[@ProxyDoug]

My favorite line from him is when he prepares to use the Yamato to destroy the last monolith, he says "I know this is a historical monument, but it's bad for the community".

[@Shellshock39]

If you loved Nero's gameplay in DMC 4, you'll love his gameplay in DMC 5.

[@DoctorDec]

Absolutely love what this game (would eventually) did for the franchise. Can’t wait for you to reach 5 one of the best action games of all time IMO. BTW keep up the great work, one of my favorite review channels on the platform. Great mix of comedy and honesty.

[@Jetstorm0000]

Johnny may not have found this since he didn't bring it up, but Nero has a sort of secret drop kick that you can use by taunting at full sprint. It does deal a small amount of damage, but mainly it knocks enemies down to give you a better opening to focus down one or two enemies. I hope he looks more into what taunting can do in these games, and especially 5. Nero gets an air taunt in 5 that is incredibly useful for maintaining air time for juggling enemies or avoiding damage on the ground. Taunting in general with DMC is weird because it seems mostly pointless early on, so you likely don't bother with it most of the game, but once you get Devil Trigger it becomes invaluable since successful taunts now partially fill the DT gauge. Also taunting Vergil in his boss fights will have him usually taunt back is a great detail.

[@leithaziz2716]

I found Air-taunt with Nero in 5 extremely usefull as a 3rd jump or a way to change momentum during the jump

[@benxen8844]

You’re actually pretty spot on with the Power Ranger hypothesis, Rueben got hired to do the mocap and VA Dante because of his nationality and the fact that he was a very popular super sentai stunt man at the time, he suggested that Dan also be hired leading to him being Vergil and the both of them recommended Johnny for similar reasons with the added bonus that he was a very popular VA in the late 2000s, it was a perfect storm

[@DinoDave150]

DMC 4 is a weird game for me. It's what I like to call a "Bridge Game." It's a game that serves to bridge the gap between the previous game that everyone loved (DMC 3) and the one that would fine tune everything new it introduced (DMC 5). DMC 5 would go on to perfect everything that 4 did, so it's kind out hard to go back to 4 after playing 5.

[@RicochetForce]

Yeah, when I've been asked by friends and family which DMC games to play I recommend them either DMC3 or DMC5. One has a better campaign and the other has the best gameplay in the series. There is very little reason to recommend 4 at this point.

[@IsiahAllison]

I LOVE Johnny Yong Bosch, too. He was Vash Stampede, the main protagonist of Trigun, his first anime role. Ichigo Kurosaki, the main protagonist of Bleach, in which he voiced him in the English dub of both the old anime and the new anime and the English dub of the Japanese live-action adaptation. Renton, the main protagonist of Eureka 7. Lelouch vi Britannia, the main protagonist of Code Geass. More specifically, Code Geass that focuses on Lelouch. But he only voiced him as a teen/adult. And the list goes on.

[@SuperDarkHalo]

We all get excited when Johnny uploads!

[@Austin-gj7zj]

Dude his opening song gets me in such a good mood

[@tailsprower8118]

⁠​⁠@@Austin-gj7zjand then the ending theme comes in and makes me feel relaxed

[@SuperFusionAJ93]

14:13 Funny cause both Nero and Kyrie's VA also voiced Ichigo and Orihime in Bleach respectively.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Neros DT is like that cuz yamato seperates things, so Nero is forcing out more devil power by splitting his human and demonic essence at the waist.

[@thelemonadestandman]

24:00 I was a huge FF8 fan, and playing Nero in DMC4 had me with a huge grin on my face the whole time just going "This is if Squall were an action game protagonist". Playing DMC4 over the pandemic made me really want a mod that let me play Squall and have a gunblade, and then when I finally played DMC5 the gameplay similarities just got too much and I knew I had to be the one to mod Squall and the gunblade in if no one else would.

[@livingcorpse5664]

Johnny I felt the same way about Wesker. "Wait Wesker had sex? I never thought he had interest in anything other than evil plans to rule the world. I honestly thought he had zero interest in anything else."

[@UltimateAnimeGamer]

You mention how all Dante, Vergil, and Nero's voice actors all worked on Power Rangers, but additionally, Reuben Langdon ALSO played B-Fighter Yanma in B-Fighter Kabuto, which was adapted into Beetleborgs Metallix. Thats right: Dante, son of a bugman, is a Beetleborg.

[@MrBonzeMedal]

I do love the headcanon idea that Dante was no longer the depressed version we see him in DMC2 once he discovered the existence of Nero a kindred spirit and potential family member, which he’s been missing since Nelo Angelo’s (Vergil’s) death.

[@TheExFatal]

I really appreciate that you re-edited the DMC3 cutscenes, because that's how they were originally meant to look like

[@marts4169]

Foolishness Johnny. You can actually attach the Blitz with Dante´s melee attacks while the lightning shield is up and negate the damage you would get with a Royal Block. Also you can fully negate the Faust´s and Mephisto ´s cloak protection by hitting their stinger.

[@jeremydandeneau7704]

Nero is how I fell in love with Johnny Young Bosch's VA work.

[@DrkRyu]

to be precise - those comments say it sounds like Dialga's cry as in the noise of the actual pokemon. and I totally hear it too :D

[@HazLight4426]

The chronological order of the DMC games is: 3, 1, 2, 4 and 5. Somebody please let him know that.

[@JoeNeutrino]

"Alolan Senator Armstrong" is the funniest thing I've heard all week

[@1Synner]

"I don't get why Nero's abilities are named like that. If it's a side dash, it should just be called a side dash. What the fuck is Table Hopper." Yeah, uhm, Nero's skills and kit are largely based on gambling terms. Roulette, Shuffle, Table Hopper, Maximum Bet, Showdown. Split, Streak. Hell. Red Queen and Blue Rose are also card terms.

[@GBlastMan]

A bit of trivia here about the "Lady in Red" from the opening cutscene of Vergil's campaign, she is not the lady that Vergil "boned" for years people thought she was Vergil's mother and it went into a crazy search for who she was even to the point to data mining the game to obtain the model and see under the hood who she was, its just Kyrie but in red with a hood covering her face. Now i know what you all thinking "but that means Kyrie is Nero's.....mother? how?!" the team used Kyrie's model on ALL female of the order and civilians of Fortuna, it was easier than doing a different model for each woman in the game and since pretty much all of them have a hood covering their faces the team didnt care about them having Kyrie's face, so you could think that the entire female population of Fortuna is just Kyrie clones or the real reason, the team wanted to "cut corners" which is a very common thing to do. The thing with "the lady in red" its no more of a "the color of her dress reminds Vergil of Dante" i mean that's what Hideaki said in an interview when was questioned about it, i dont remember exactly but you can easly search it on google by just searching for The Lady in Red, she turns around because she gets curious why this man is looking at her so intently, and that's it, biggest DMC4 mystery was debunked as just "yeah we did that just to remind Vergil about Dante" she isnt Nero's mother or Vergil's lover, she is just another lady walking around on the streets of Fortuna. Now Nero's mother is another mystery on itself because there are rumors that she was a hooker that vergil had a one off and later on she had nero but vergil was gone at that point so she left nero in the doors of the order and Kyrie took him adopting him into the order, many fans (even myself included) dont believe on the "hooker" thing because well Vergil seems too refined and serious to just have a "one off with a hooker one night" and we believe its some kind of affair with a demon while he was in hell that prehaps she had connections with higher demons like Mundus and so on, and kinda the same story of his mother repeated itself with him and she ended up in the human world leaving Nero in fortuna because in my theory Vergil knew that Dante could protect him and tell him what to do once the time is right.

[@chibie3384]

I’m surprised no one from the discord told Johnny about Nero’s overly busted charge shot and how better it is to use when swapping gun to R2/RT 🤔

[@DaVideoGameBeastr]

Vergil doing the dirty with someone still feels hilariously out of character for him but I like Nero as he is so I wouldn't change it

[@charlessegale6493]

As Dante said, "I guess you were young, too."

[@goranisacson2502]

@chandllerburse737 And that's why he bailed on her afterwards- he realized "Wait, sex doesn't give me more power... you LIED >:( " and he just air-dashes out of there.

[@thehatman7051]

Ahhh, DMC 4, I'll forever be mad at how Capcom screwed this game over with the budget and time afforded to them, but luckily the game is still massively fun to play, with some of the deepest combat in the series. If you want more Nero info, DMC 5 does give you *some* of that, but his backstory is still mostly stuck in a Japanese only graphic novel, which tells us that Nero was an orphan raised by Kyrie's family (which adds some... implications, to their relationship unfortunately) who became anti-social due to being bullied because people thought his mom was a prostitute. He joined the order of the sword to protect the city from demons, and his demonic arm awakened during a demon attack where both his arm and Kyrie were injured, his arm transformed afterwards and he started training in secret, keeping it hidden in a cast. Anyways, with all that said, looking forward to the DMC: DMC review! I honestly think the game has some really fun gameplay (especially in the special edition), but is bogged down by some terrible writing, and just the fact that it probably shouldn't have ever been positioned as the next step for Devil May Cry

[@Tonberry81]

About DMC: Devil May Cry, I think if all you heard about the game is negative feedback, then you probably be pleasently surprise. At the time of it's release, it was not well receive since many felt that a popular character was being replace by some emo weirdo. Now that the real Dante has returned and the game is now a curious offshoot of the series, it can be evaluated on it's own. Taken as a single gaming experience, I think it's a fine game that play very well and look pretty.

[@NinjaRed5000]

The game isn't too bad in terms of structure, Nero feels a little vanilla compared to how godly Dante felt in 4, but the downside to Dante is that he feels completely broken in levels that clearly weren't meant for him. It gets repetitive after a while, and I'm glad you pointed out how much worse it is playing as Vergil (not that Vergil himself is bad, his moves feel like an improved version of 3, but the reuse of levels makes the game feel even more repetitive). I was so burnt out by the game that I didn't even try the Lady and Trish campaign.

[@Mekboy_ComputerMonster]

I remember that time where we had NO idea where Nero fit on the Sparda Bloodline. Was he Dante's Nephew? Was he Dante's Cousin? I don't _knooow..._ Well, come V, we got an answer to that...

[@justicewright8803]

this one is my favourite in the series tbh. I love this game sm

[@Starcat5]

6:54 "What am I doing with myself?" You are playing Video Games for a living. Not exactly making bank, but still living better than a lot of us. 😻

[@ReanXAlisa]

This is hands down one of the best DMC4 vids, I love how balanced your reviews are. Fun fact, for Blitzs with Dante if you Royal Guard after hitting it you can negate the damage you take and quickly get rid of his electric shield with the RG.

[@nocturneprividyenie2391]

I love the artwork that was featured for Nero in this video during the intro. ^_^ ❤ Curious as to who did it.

[@Comkill117]

Part of me still thinks 4 has the best combat, at least at high level play. The fact it’s clearly unfinished means that there’s a level of unpolished that actually ended up helping the game in a weird way as various exploits allowed people to do some truly insane shit like guard flying. The tech in this was enough to keep people playing for 11 years from 2008 to 2019 when 5 finally came out. Also fun story, the original PC release (which is still on Steam currently which is nice) actually runs a bit better than SE on the platform. It also doesn’t have the damn mouse showing the whole time. As far as the console versions go they were really solid too, I only noticed minor frame rate issues when things got really hectic on PS3 and maybe one time on 360. Technically the game was a marvel for the time, which is probably why MT Framework became Capcom’s engine for like every in house game after that until Monster Hunter World and MegaMan 11. Also also, the power Rangers thing is no coincidence as Ruben Langdeon mentioned that he specifically looked for power Rangers actors for mo cap since they would know how to use more exaggerated motions that could animate better for the time. That said, Vergil’s actor in DmC: Devil May Cry also being another one is probably a coincidence since that was a different development team making it. Funny enough, both power Rangers played by Vergils are in Battle for the Grid so if you ever wanted DMC3/4/5 Vergil vs DmC Vergil go play that.

[@pkthunder3]

dialga doesn't have a theme, (unless you mean primal dialga, but i digress) they're talking about his CRY. ya know, the noise he makes when he pops out the pokeball. and yeah, i totally hear it, crazy they sampled dialga's cry for that song, lol.

[@carlintaylor3229]

My dad loved the fact that dante was a boss fight in this game most likely to make up for the fact that you couldn't fight him in vergils story in the special edition of 3

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

That's actually kind of cool to know your dad was hyped for it.

[@ProxyDoug]

It's a shame the Special Edition isn't a finished edition of the game, with proper levels for Dante. My pipe dream for this game would be to have Credo playable at some point, or at least have Nero inherit his weapon. Edit: The only song that stood out to me was Sword Through Swords.

[@rubenakaskrubby8676]

About people hearing Dialga on Beal's theme Its not referenced to the music you fight Dialga rather the sound Dialga makes when it appears

[@NeO_SaNdMaN4040]

Coffee, breakfast, and Johnny’s DMC4 review??? LETS GO! 14:25 I seriously think Credo is the best fight in the game, next to all the Dante v Nero fights. Just everything about Credo’s fight is so much fun and had layers of sadness and badassery to it.

[@jaretco6423]

I may not know much about Power Rangers ( I don't hate it. Just never got into it. ). But even I know who Johnny Yong Bosch is. After Power Rangers, he started getting into voice actor in animes. His first role he ever did; which also happens to be favorite roles of his aside from Nero, is Vash the Stampede from Trigun, one of my favorite animes of all time. He comes an long way and hasn't age an bit.

[@Rabbitlord108]

Funny how he referenced Mega Man. Since I know Yong Bosch became Zero's voice actor.

[@jaretco6423]

@@Rabbitlord108 Oh yeah. I totally forgot about that. Me being an Mega Man nerd is so stupid not realizing this.

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

I’m going through my first run of Bayonetta. This genre is sick! So DMC and God of War are similar to it? I need more of this stuff!

[@mayborneflower]

13:37 - Sanctus in the prequel tie-in novel speculated that Nero was born from a knocked up prostitute ditching her newborn at an orphanage based on the circumstances. So if that lady in red actually is her, this implies that Vergil knows his way around the red light district really well.

[@NanaKyoto]

Playing the game, but in reverse I can assume was a clear consequence of development troubles, as the high definition era of gaming brought new possibilities, yes, but it also required significantly higher production budgets and effort regarding the new console architectures (especially PlayStation 3). But aside from that, they managed to stick the landing, for the most part, however, this was around the time Devil May Cry would slowly start taking a backseat while Capcom began pushing for more Western developed titles, and that...that time was a doozy, I will say no more.

[@RicochetForce]

They most certainly didn't stick the landing, man. The enemies, the complete failure of characterizing Nero beyond a screaming teen, Dante's near irrelevance, baffling game design decisions like the Blitzes, Savior, Board game, and fighting Credo only one, force me to give this a solid 5/10. A game needs to be good outside of Bloody Palace as well.

[@NGB1122]

Oh boy the DMC Reboot. No spoilers, but it's a great showcase of how developer contempt for the fans can ruin an otherwise good game. Dig a bit and you'll find Ninja Theory being antagonistic towards fans, mocking towards the source material, and even a tinge homophobic. And the worst part? The game was written beyond Shadow levels of edge and devs did it with 0 irony, they genuinely thought this was cool and even "shakesperian" as one team member put it. It was beyond just Donte. It's what he represented in terms of dev and player relationships.

[@isenokami7810]

Yeah, as someone who liked Bayonetta 3, at least as a game, I FEEL that Viola dig. Hell, just wait until DMC5 and compare it to Bayonetta 3: both try passing the torch, with one succeeding and the other failing so hard. I don’t even hate Viola or anything, but making her “the new Bayonetta” was a horrible call. I should just go watch your Bayonetta 3 video at this point. Loved it as a game, but man do I have issues with that story.

[@alexhollon7526]

This is a game where your overall enjoyment is going to depend on if backtracking bothers you. While I disliked the bossess repeating twice, the levels didn't bother me as much mostly because there ARE some minor differences, and the repeat levels don't take as long. Doesn't bother me, but I get why it bothers others.

[@FoxTheBloodedge]

Before you get into The DMC Reboot proper, I highly recommend looking up the GDC Panel on it. The hate that this game gets will become more understandable after you see it.

[@dusknoir64]

They're not saying it's Dialga's theme, they're saying that the sample is the same that was used for making Dialga's CRY. Seriously, makes it really distracting if you played a lot of diamond and platinum.

[@kaelmic7476]

Gotta love that EVERYONE just cant imagine vergil fucking. Fucking hilarious.

[@SingingInferno]

Yeah, you're definitely gonna love DMC5. Literally everyone is better written and designed in that game, both in terms of story and combat.

[@GenAqua]

I love Johnny Yong Bosch. Also, god have mercy on Johnny's soul for having to play the DmC reboot game.

[@michaeloverton04]

SomeCallMeJohnny talking about DMC4? The time has come, and so have I.

[@MProductionsGAMING]

Cool tidbit about Nero's buster arm. If you repeatedly tap the buster arm button when grabbing most enemies, he'll continue attacking them for more damage. If you grab those same enemies in DT form, his special grab attack will be more brutal, and tapping the buster arm button works the same way as I said earlier. For bosses the same applies for the most part, but you can also rev your sword for bonus damage like you could've done at 26:49. And if you're in DT form during these special attack animations, you can spam the shoot button to shoot Nero's summon swords at the boss for extra damage. Since you already know Nero's in DMC5, these tips I just told you apply in that game too. Can't wait to see you get to that one Johnny!

[@itzorin600]

You know I'm be surprised that he would do nightmare before Christmas oogie's revenge cuz if he's doing a devil May cry month he needs to add that game on there if he doesn't want to do it that's fine by me

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

God, there's a lot of info floating around about how much they had wanted to incorporate into the game's story but didn't have the time or resources to do so. Just for one example, I believe that Nero until a little while before the game starts had two regular arms, but during an incident where he had to protect Kyrie, he basically got perma-DT on just his one arm. It's vaguely alluded to in the game, but they really wanted to flesh out the new cast but just couldn't.

[@felipeaguena5289]

DMC4 is one of the best unfinished games ever, with MGSV second.

[@The_WIll_OF_D99]

I honestly can't wait to hear your thoughts on The Reboot. Just like DMC 4 it's not a Bad game heck not a bad DMC game especially knowing the behind the scenes stuffing relation to game play. But like DMC 4 it's development is what hurt the game in a lot of ways can't wait to hear your take on the stuff.

[@SilverJakler]

I think people meant Dialga's cry, not its theme, that was similar to Baal's theme. I definitely hear it lol

[@rumotu]

Agreed there, it's a great game, but the idea of replaying the campaign makes me lose it and just play something else.

[@tracyndiyob162]

i actually remember this being the 1st devil may cry game i played at my school's anime club(got introduced to it alongside basquash,little busters,ranma 1/2 and koi koi 7.) and while even without the backtracking thought the areas were just there but never got old with the gameplay, liked nero(love both him & viola as i'd definitely say they had better handling than silver,raiden to an extent or fellow capcom characters axl/jake.) and his moments with kyrie/dante. absolutely loved dante in this game(really where i thought reuben langdon was perfect as the son of sparda/also ken & with it being only a year before bayonetta/dante's interactions with the bosses being extremely similar to bayo with the angels kept expecting the witch to be nearby chilling.). & enjoyed the special edition having trish(the gloria disguise outside fanservice was kinda pointless looking back with how they wreck things up anyways.)/lady(hope that happens again next game as i loved the trios moments together.:3) and vergil playable.

[@zigslotheon]

7:22 he’s in boys! He did it! He said it! *airhorns*

[@Gnidel]

I love DMC 4, it's a fantastic half of a game.

[@RicochetForce]

Yup, I like that the game has monsters, areas, and bosses explicitly designed for one character so fighting them with the other awful feels awkward as hell.

[@JetZV]

I think the reason Nero feels so much better to play as is because he's been professionally trained. Dante and Vergil are amazing, but everything they've done seems largely self-taught. Since Nero was part of an organization that explicitly trained him for efficiency, it means that everything he does is coordinated, which makes his personality make more sense too.

[@nunchuk28]

It's unfortunate how much DMC4 was compromised by its rushed development, the repetitious campaign really holds it back.

[@Gamingwithahandicap]

John you need to review the Tak games! Tak and the Power of Juju Tak 2 the Staff of Dreams and Tak the Great Juju Challenge their amazing 3D platformers it would be amazing if you reviewed them! :)

[@u.dplaythroughs8486]

That dreaded board game and Baal looks different compared to the one in Bayonetta. The Saviour Vs Jubileus who would win? Agnes is just Capcom Hojo

[@adambatey4707]

I met JYB at Sunnycon in Newcastle back in 2016 I asked him what was his favorite acting role he said Nero ❤

[@ElickFlash]

I figured you'd end up like this for DMC4. Can't wait to hear what you think of DmCDMC. I actually really enjoy that game combat wise as well, and in level design, but that Story... there is no fixing that.

[@briansilva3765]

Itsuno life's hard when you think about it, had to fix DMC 2 and that was barely average, then managed to make a banger with DMC 3 as an apology. Then was handled the bad situation regarding 4, and while not as bad as 2 still had issues, then finally fixed everything again with 5. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want anything to do with DMC from this point forward; just give him all the budget for Dragon's Dogma the man deserves it.

[@RicochetForce]

Oh, after DMC5 he revealed in an interview that after the game's success he was given a choice to chose what he wanted to develop next and he said Dragon's Dogma. That was the first indication that we were getting another DD. But yeah, a good chunk of his career has either been cleaning up other people's excretions and being asked to make games on a shoestring budget.

[@tristenjamesriggen2567]

You cannot tell me that Virgil’s special ability isn’t just Unlimited Blade Works.

[@thedevilsleutice]

Dmc 4 is like my crazy hot ex girlfriend. It’s really good for the first half of the relationship peaking with the Dante boss battle and Sanctus. Then the ladder half when you switch over to Dante you see some over red flags as you see all the reused content and clearly rushed secret missions! All peaking with mission 18 boss battle with the savior or the big argument that makes you wanna leave followed by the melt down or the dice game boss rush. With a pretty good ending as she says “she’ll try to change” and on replay you give it a second chance and all the red flags become worst on repeat till you just admit. It’s a good time, but there are other games In that’ll treat you better.

[@RicochetForce]

Bingo. Good lord did I try to like the campaign, as I was a mega-fan after DMC1 and 3. But I just couldn't. It's aggressively bad, and when your patience is at an end it drags its zombie ass on even further.

[@EonNite]

I'm so glad someone else noticed that Bael's theme is literally Drop Out from DDR. I've never heard anyone else mention that, so thank you Johnny.

[@ThaPlaya1994]

My favorite Devil May Cry. It's so fun to play. Will edit when I finish the video. Also Nero>Dante. :)

[@KamyKam]

I am probably the only person in existence who actually loved going through the game backwards as Dante.

[@CeHee123]

I didnt mind it either. The game is definitely a tad repetitive but the combat is so good it saves it from being boring.

[@KamyKam]

@@CeHee123 exactly!

[@felipeaguena5289]

Yes, you are

[@bubbajoe117]

The repetition is a bit mind-numbing but I respect the intent of showing the contrast between Nero and Dante, Nero has an epic battle with them and forces them to retreat, Dante makes them look like a bunch of idiots and kills them, really sets the tone that he's only really there for Nero and everything else going on is just a sidequest in his misc tab.

[@OneTrueNobody]

I was able to tolerate it, although a lot of the enemies really don't feel like they were designed with Dante's combat and maneuvering options in mind. The problem becomes more pronounced when you add the Vergil campaign and then the Lady/Trish campaign into the mix, though. And now that we've got the complete Devil May Cry 5 package, it's honestly hard to go back.

[@Niero45]

I'm very happy to see that so far you've come to almost the same exact conclusions as most devil may cry fans.

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Known to some as Bleach May Cry.

[@SeelkadoomandJokic00]

Funny enough Rueban Langdon was also on B Fighter Kabuto as a cast member with a suit as Mac Windy in Jap, which in America is known as Big Bad Beetleborgs Metallix.

[@thiccpalpatine]

Honestly, I would probably find the boss rush at the end a little less egregious if we were at least allowed to fight Credo again. He’s the best boss in the game and you only fight him once in the campaign. Kind of a far cry from the trilogy of Vergil fights we got in 3.

[@staticshock4239]

Seriously it's such a waste that Credo is such a good boss that unless you play Bloody Palace, he is so unused compared to everyone else.

[@charlessegale6493]

Agreed. I felt it would have made sense to have him be the final boss you fight in that mission since the first fight is against the Alto Angelos, enemies that are clearly modeled after him, serve as a preview for how he fights and even share the same leitmotif in their battle themes.

[@RicochetForce]

Best Fight in the game? Fought only once. Shittiest boss battles? Fought 3 times.

[@thiccpalpatine]

@@RicochetForceIdk, Berial and Echidna are pretty fun bosses. The only repeated boss I personally don’t enjoy is Bael, but that’s just me.

[@RicochetForce]

@@thiccpalpatine Eh, things like Echidna are as forgettable as the Gigapede to me. Bael I actively remember because of how substandard he is. The Savior is DMC2 Boss battle levels of crap, Sanctus Dominus is repetitive as Johnny said. I actually said "Really?" out loud when I fought him both times. He has so few moves and so little variation in his pattern. To have that be my reward after slogging through the boardgame again (which was after the Savior) deflated the hell out of DMC4's ending for me. The Agnus boss battle with the window is easily a series low. Man, just recalling all this makes me upset we got to fight Credo exactly ONCE.

[@gfkgrgrkm]

aesthetically I still prefer this game over DMC 5