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Johnny Hawkey

Johnny Hawkey

10 ай бұрын

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Nhl news and rumors today - We've seen trades and free agent signings lately, but this is a juicy topic we need to get into. Even watching nhl highlights of the quebec nordiques vs montreal canadiens especially, begs the question of a return or " bring back the nordiques " relocation given the arizona coyotes arena situation, or even the ottawa senators or florida panthers at times. But gary bettman is.. well, him. NHL hockey highlights trade rumours reaction goal horns quebec city nhl team habs fans might have a hand in this whole ordeal. Also, Now that the nhl 24 reveal trailer is upon us, hockey news will continue to trickle in and we'll cover it. Montreal canadiens quebec nordiques expansion is equally unlikely. nhl 2023

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@jean-paulmallette5672
@jean-paulmallette5672 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Habs fan but would also be happy to see the Nordiques come back. I still remember the rivalry Montreal and Quebec had in the past. That was intense hockey. Bring the Nordiques back.
@brenthenderson3983
@brenthenderson3983 10 ай бұрын
Yep, I remember that rivalry, it was awesome, even if the Nords did come back, that Mtl rivalry would not be as intense, if at all, not with the way the league is managed today. It's a damn shame what has happened to our Winter national sport
@jean-paulmallette5672
@jean-paulmallette5672 10 ай бұрын
@@brenthenderson3983 It is a very sad situation in all sports these days.
@Nay-kp6uu
@Nay-kp6uu 10 ай бұрын
@jean-paulmallette5672 You don't know sadness, being a Coyotes fan. Save your pity, it's not needed.
@DR.DisInfect
@DR.DisInfect 10 ай бұрын
It is so embarrassing watching what they Yotes have become. I'm American but I'm all for them going back to Quebec
@Nay-kp6uu
@Nay-kp6uu 10 ай бұрын
@drdisinfect5162 You're not embarrassed. Why would you be? Your not a fan of them. Us fans would be embarrassed but we're not. We're proud Coyote fans. The reasons teams fail is cause of fake pride and embarrassment that you say you have. All you're doing is telling Coyote fans should be embarrassed. But we're not. You never been to a game, at the AWA at the Glendale Arena. You never bought Coyotes merch, bought and wore a jersey. A hat. Drove to the other side of the city just to get an autograph from Tyson Nash and Ossi Vaananen at an appearance at a local grocery store. You didn't do that. You're not embarrassed, I am proud and so are all Coyote fans.
@Kaserdan
@Kaserdan 10 ай бұрын
Ex-Nordique fan here. Was pissed off in 93 when Mtl won the cup because they beat my Nordiques in 1st round. Still celebrated Avs cup with mixed tears in 96. To my surprise, I became a Montreal fan in 2008. If Quebec gets a team again, Mtl would move 2nd in my heart and it would be weird, cause I used to be a Mtl hater and Qc lover. Can one love both Mtl and Qc ?
@jean-paulmallette5672
@jean-paulmallette5672 10 ай бұрын
I'll cheer for any Canadian team. Ottawa being in last place and Montreal "with the Nordiques", being tied for 1st place.
@beangirl6017
@beangirl6017 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, except Toronto is dead last. 😆
@marsupialsr
@marsupialsr 10 ай бұрын
Nordiques, just like the Expos in baseball, are iconic. They got history and are loved overall. Of course you can like both Canadiens and Nordiques.
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 10 ай бұрын
Yep
@mattlorentz1988
@mattlorentz1988 9 ай бұрын
I'm from Ontario love the Oilers I will never ever ever ever cheer for the Flames
@em001868
@em001868 10 ай бұрын
Dude, Ontario is split into 2 teams and the Leafs are HUGE in Toronto (Not to mention the Flames and Oilers too). And the Nordiques already existed in Quebec so it's not like it would shock hockey fans, so I say yes we can split fandom in Quebec. It will only recreate a much needed rivalry.
@rileyhrocks4731
@rileyhrocks4731 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, I’m an oilers fan and nothing beats having 2 teams from the same province battling every year
@soggydog1212
@soggydog1212 10 ай бұрын
A team in Quebec and also Hamilton would be so sick. The NHL needs more local rivalries.
@Toews1247
@Toews1247 10 ай бұрын
I know in Manitoba as a jets fan if they had a team in Brandon (which obviously they will probably never have the population) but i would be so fuckin fired up
@soggydog1212
@soggydog1212 10 ай бұрын
@@Toews1247 I wish we had promotion and relegation. Then any city could fight to be in the league
@Toews1247
@Toews1247 10 ай бұрын
ya@@soggydog1212
@Kodachrome90
@Kodachrome90 10 ай бұрын
Interesting point about Montreal having the Quebec market, but just take a look at Alberta we got 2 teams and a smaller population.
@park1699
@park1699 10 ай бұрын
a lot of mtl fan are mtl fan cause quebec got no team. bring back the team in quebec and a lot will go back to being nordique fan
@chazlucifer
@chazlucifer 10 ай бұрын
@@park1699agreed, this guys clueless. If he’s ever been to Quebec he’d know most people north of Montreal don’t even support the habs
@alexandreveer8071
@alexandreveer8071 10 ай бұрын
​@@chazluciferHe's neither wrong nor right. Being from the Quebec City region, a lot of people where I am from would rather cheer for the Coyotes rather than Montréal while a lot also cheer for Montréal simply because the Nordiques don't exist anymore. There are also people who were fans of the Canadiens in the first place too. I am from a divided family on the matter, my dad's side are die-hard Habs fans while my mum's side were die-hard Nordiques fans. Some of my Nordiques die-hard family did switch to cheer for Montréal while most just hate Montréal for the sake of hating Montréal. But yeah, most of the Quebec City region is kinda alienated, they cheer for a team that they wouldn't cheer for if the Nordiques were still there, so they're not die-hard fans at all of their teams right now most of the time.
@mattursacki699
@mattursacki699 10 ай бұрын
The province of Quebec has 8 million people in it they could easily handle the habs the Nordiques and a 2nd team in MTL
@jeffreycairns767
@jeffreycairns767 9 ай бұрын
​@chazlucifer Dude, I am all over Quebec weekly and have talked to 1000's of people. Barely a handful are interested in bringing back the Nordiques. I'm currently writing this at Maxi Trois-Rivières. I've been all around Quebec City (Quebec City, L'Ancienne-Lorette, Levis, etc.) And again, very little interest. Even up North in Chicoutimi, Alma, Roberval, etc. Have little to no interest. Either they're die hard Habs fans or don't give af about hockey.
@AvAlanchian
@AvAlanchian 9 ай бұрын
As an Avs fan, I love that we came from the Nordiques and represent Quebec with the Nordiques jersey a few times a year. Love Sakic, Stastny and Roy and where they came from, a shame Quebec can’t have their own team
@rjcolombe
@rjcolombe 10 ай бұрын
The argument is made that you wouldn't want to split Quebec fans into two teams, but then you have Ottawa and Toronto sharing a provincial fan base, and if you suggest Houston, then you split the Texas fan base with them and Dallas. Sadly, there's no way Quebec gets another team as long as Bettman is in office.
@oddity4all2see
@oddity4all2see 9 ай бұрын
I'd love to see the nordiques back. I'm a flyers fan so I suppose it really doesn't matter but it'd be nostalgic of the 80s when I discovered the wonderful thing called hockey
@thedarkangel1975
@thedarkangel1975 10 ай бұрын
The problem with Arizona, if they were to finally say enough is enough relocate, because of where all the other teams are, they would have to relocate them in the west to keep them at 16/16. We know neither Detriot or Columbus will shift to the west. Winnipeg fans got very lucky with the thrashers
@XaviRonaldo0
@XaviRonaldo0 10 ай бұрын
This is something these dreamers conveniently ignore.
@gavinsheridan4680
@gavinsheridan4680 10 ай бұрын
If realignment were the only issue, it wouldn’t stop the move.
@mlgcrashoverride1019
@mlgcrashoverride1019 9 ай бұрын
@@XaviRonaldo0 dreamers thier not dreamer i know for a fact Qc would make a lot of money buuuut no as much as an american team Qc would not be a dumb idea just not enough of a cash cow for betman
@scottiepaterson192
@scottiepaterson192 9 ай бұрын
as annoying as it might be, this absolutely wouldnt stop a team from starting up somewhere. yeah it would be slightly inconvenient to the league. the commission would just have to do their job and figure out re-alignment. they wouldnt prevent a team from going to quebec because it would mess with the perfect balance. that's some ocd shit, that's not how you run a business
@sambmackenzie
@sambmackenzie 9 ай бұрын
I’m a huge habs fan and I would LOVE to see the nordiques return.
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully the nordiques come back
@devilsarebeastly
@devilsarebeastly 10 ай бұрын
Quebec wanting their team back is similar to the governor of Connecticut trying to talk to Gary about the Whalers, it's a pipedream that doesn't make sense for the league.
@average.outaouais.enjoyer
@average.outaouais.enjoyer 10 ай бұрын
As a Québécois I would love to have another team in Québec. I would be a fan for both of them.
@cronkacola
@cronkacola 10 ай бұрын
With the youth and potential in Arizona, they would probably sell out their entire season with ease if they went to Quebec But on the flipside, we can see what a good team in a new market can do like we saw with Vegas and Seattle
@bdbdkdfotbrveiw
@bdbdkdfotbrveiw 10 ай бұрын
This isnt a new market anymore. The teams been around since 96. This is a tired experiment in a failed market.
@stephenphillips6245
@stephenphillips6245 10 ай бұрын
If the Quebec City residents are buying merchandise...the league does not have to buy the cow when they are getting the milk for free.
@davidkruse4030
@davidkruse4030 10 ай бұрын
The valley of the sun is filled with flakes. The stadium in Tempe being rejected is the writing on the wall. It was the perfect deal. The election deniers didn’t want it. Time for the team to move.
@jonah.donohue
@jonah.donohue 10 ай бұрын
​@@bdbdkdfotbrveiwAnd Arizonia hasn't?😂😂😂
@brenthenderson3983
@brenthenderson3983 10 ай бұрын
Vegas and Seattle actually have fans that go to the games, (that's judging by the Kraken's playoff run), the Coyotes franchise is a joke, not many people give a shit about hockey in Arizona.
@brenttmynhier_yt6806
@brenttmynhier_yt6806 10 ай бұрын
This is something that I keep saying if you move Arizona to Quebec City then you have another conference imbalance again. 17 teams in the east 15 teams in the west they would have to move another team from east to west and I’m sure Columbus or Detroit don’t wanna go back to the west
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 10 ай бұрын
Make the Nu-dics figure out a deal with Columbus or Detroit, maybe Quebec has to play in the west for awhile.
@fergusb2440
@fergusb2440 10 ай бұрын
I am and have always been a Leafs fan. Growing up in S. Ontario, it was natural but I was also a Nordiques fan because of the Stastny's. I loved their style of play and loved the team's potential! I hope the NHL can figure it out that hockey has a history that is rooted in Canada and if, somehow, the hockey market sees a struggling period they will rely on Canadian fans to see them through. I think it is time for the NHL to consider the Canadian market! I may be stretching here, but I have always wondered if a regional team based in the Martimes would work? Maybe not, but wow! It would be great if it could!
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 10 ай бұрын
I personally don't think that neither the exchange rate, nor the split fanbases are valid reasons to not go back to Quebec City. Yes, the Canadian dollar is weaker, but a passionate fanbase makes up for that. And more importantly, rivalries are always what make the most money and they help grow the game. As a Devils, I can confirm from experience. Seeing a mix of Devils, Rangers, and Flyers jerseys makes hockey so much more fun to follow here because it makes the game more intense, thus making it a hot topic, way more most other teams without them. Rival matchups are the matchups people crave for the most. I don't think the NHL realizes just how gold they're leaving on the table by not going back to Quebec City. Could you imagine the amount of publicity and TV viewership a Habs vs Nordiques playoff series would get? Especially today post-1996? It would be insane. Honestly, the NHL needs to stop overfocusing their efforts on the Sun Belt and realize that the fans that they already have deserve representation too. Don't get me wrong. I will defend the Atlanta Thrashers until my dying breath, but there are still many cities like Milwaukee and Portland that are on their knees begging for the opportunity to throw their money at the NHL, yet they keep turning down these win-win markets. And those cities are both in states without teams. Why not make Trail Blazers fans and Wisconsin sports fans watch NHL hockey? Any other sports league would pounce on these opportunities if they had the chance. This is part of why the league isn't growing. The league is letting their thirst for growing the them in non-traditional markets blind them from giving their core fanbase teams to cheer for. It alienates them. It's basically the league saying, "you're not important to us."
@LordGrantius
@LordGrantius 10 ай бұрын
The league doesn't care about fans, and is willing to shoot itself in the foot and pour money into difficult markets rather than support existing ones. Bettman also will not permit another Canadian team so long as he's in charge. If New York can support two teams with two more nearby, two more not too far - Toronto has 5 million, and another couple million nearby. They support varieties of junior teams. They could easily put another team near Toronto, and bring the Nordiques back. I know it's not as easy as it seems but it feels like there is zero interest in trying
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 10 ай бұрын
@@LordGrantius Bettman needs to go. It's long overdue at this point. It's ridiculous that this league has been run by the same leadership since before I was even born. Bettman became the commissioner in 1993, long before the digital age even began. Not even Google existed yet. And we wonder why the NHL is so out of touch today. It's because this league is run by a bunch of greedy boomers.
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 10 ай бұрын
But then again some of those markets Vegas and Nashville have had teams in the past
@stefanbonat1628
@stefanbonat1628 10 ай бұрын
I agree that good rivals are the icing on a cake...by the way who is the rival of the Coyotes?
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 10 ай бұрын
@@stefanbonat1628 Exactly
@camdudzinski5206
@camdudzinski5206 9 ай бұрын
A Texan once told me on the topic of hockey "I don't watch that damn yankee sport." Texas does not deserve another hockey team. Nor does Salt Lake City. Quebec City or Hartford would be magical. Give Saskatchewan or Nova Scotia a hockey team. It would never happen but I think it would mean a lot for people in the Maritimes if they got an NHL franchise.
@DERTHIX
@DERTHIX 10 ай бұрын
Have the Coyotes play half their home games in Quebec and see how many people show up. I bet you'd make more of a profit then you would in Arizona even with the exchange rate.
@alfiesmullet1311
@alfiesmullet1311 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see the Nordiques come back.. not likely to happen while Bettman us the commissioner though sadly.. were more likely gunna see the Yotes go to San Antonio or Salt Lake City
@Manu-et9rj
@Manu-et9rj 10 ай бұрын
as a habs fan i want to experience this rivalry so bad
@geraldlamothe6091
@geraldlamothe6091 10 ай бұрын
I’m 61 I grew up a Habs fan from start...In the 70’s there was the WHL and the Quebec Nordiques were in that league,and it was my favorite team...When they merged to the NHL I was heartbroken...Not saying that the Nordiques did not have there place in the NHL because they did...Head coach Michel Bergeron was head coach but,,,Before being head coach for the Nordiques,he was head coach for les Draveurs de Trois Rivieres (LHJMQ),I had 2 hockey clinics with the Draveurs de Trois Rivieres,and we all know when Quebec came and got Bergeron to be head coach for the Nordiques,he also brought with him a lot of players from the Draveurs team,this killed the Draveurs franchise,they do not exist anymore...Although all of this I remained,and still am a Habs fan.I have seen the Habs win the Stanley cup 9 times,I have been to 4 Stanely cup parades...My only wish is to see them win for the twenty fifth time,just to see the young ones feel like I have felt at one time in my younger life...Habs fan until I die!!!
@cvs7532
@cvs7532 10 ай бұрын
The canadian tv deal pays 600m a year for 7 teams, the us deal 400m… getting a mother canadian team could raise the canadian deal… plus Az is bleeding cash and not even trying to be profitable! low average ticket prices, no sell outs etc Other teams get to pay AZs bills through revenue sharing…
@theodorebelmont7922
@theodorebelmont7922 10 ай бұрын
Love your KZbin page. Cool NHL talk
@nofuturestudios
@nofuturestudios 10 ай бұрын
tbf im from phoenix and youth hockey in arizona is huge, so i think thats why the auston thing gets brought up. it's a hotbed for talent
@jesse.ruxspin
@jesse.ruxspin 10 ай бұрын
Wicked seeing Mr. Hawkey there brother , change my attitude when i see a father cuz i wish mine was still around , Lets Go Flames!! And forsberg in a nordiques jersey was awsum when i was a lil brat lol ✌⚜
@alainboulanger3558
@alainboulanger3558 9 ай бұрын
Thanks. I am the dad , so lucky
@robertoake2472
@robertoake2472 10 ай бұрын
Quebec City or I riot
@sophiejune4515
@sophiejune4515 10 ай бұрын
I think it could work cuz NY literally has 3 teams in the state and NJ across the Hudson and as a kid my bro was a Rangers fan so of course I ended up a Devils fan. I think that kind of split makes for great hockey and great rivalries and they'll be enough fans to go around. To me Quebec makes a lot more sense than Salt Lake City. I can't imagine people in Utah going crazy for hockey, maybe I'm wrong. If Arizona can't get a real arena and fill it then they need to move. The people have spoken. If they don't want a hockey team, it shouldn't be forced on them.
@garymauk2963
@garymauk2963 10 ай бұрын
Exactly what I've been saying for a long time! And the Habs themselves don't want it. I'm sure Molson has weilded plenty of influence with the league and the other owners
@keithball6480
@keithball6480 10 ай бұрын
Here's a story from when 1979? when the WHA was folding. Some franchises wanted to join NHL but the NHL didn't want a merge they wanted expansion money. David Molson, was head of the committee which oversaw what to do with these new teams. Th NHL didn't want any of the new team...but Hartford was allowed in due to anti trust laws in the USA. Molson said he would be the most hated man in Quebec province,, if Quebec City didn't get a team. Hence the NHL Nordieques Ben Haksin owner of the Winnipeg Jets told Molson would not sell another beer west of Ontario if the Jets and Oilers weren't granted NHL teams. Of course they got in too.
@hankvesuvius6305
@hankvesuvius6305 10 ай бұрын
Nordiques sweater is one of the all time best.
@jacksonsplace9754
@jacksonsplace9754 8 ай бұрын
NHL in Quebec City would be common sense. Yet a third chance to Atlanta Forsyth is on the radar before any other places. No wonder many fans and celebrities are blasting the NHL that they are terrible. You tell'em Snoop!
@bobbyboucher-mt2kz
@bobbyboucher-mt2kz 10 ай бұрын
molson dont want to share quebec, only montreal to the molsons
@mariaandmichael2680
@mariaandmichael2680 Ай бұрын
I grew up in Connecticut and Ohio in the 70's and I was a huge Nordiques fan, then they moved to Colorado. I was happy for Joe Sakic when they won but never could I cheer for the Avalanche. I just hope one day the NHL wakes up and brings back the NORDIQUES
@CanadiansEH
@CanadiansEH 10 ай бұрын
To grow the game, nhl would need to make more teams in the US
@jblb9656
@jblb9656 10 ай бұрын
To Grow the game no,team in QC would be better since youd have to put 2 team instead of 1 to get 17 team on each conference
@jamesj6597
@jamesj6597 10 ай бұрын
I'm from Hamilton and Quebec City has about the same chance of getting an NHL team as Hamilton does. Which last time I checked is zero.
@ratoftoska7497
@ratoftoska7497 10 ай бұрын
Hamilton is less likely because it's basically an extension of the GTA, while Québec has a totally different metropolitan area from Montréal.
@jamesj6597
@jamesj6597 10 ай бұрын
@ratoftoska7497 so Quebec City is zero and Hamilton is less than zero.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 10 ай бұрын
Ideally they'd both get teams. One goes to the East, the other to the West.
@jamesj6597
@jamesj6597 Ай бұрын
@@ratoftoska7497 The reason that the NHL will not expand into Hamilton and Quebec City markets (any other Canadian market for that matter) is that they are already saturated with NHL fans. NHL expansion is presently geared to expanding into markets where there is an opportunity for acquiring brand new NHL fans.
@ratoftoska7497
@ratoftoska7497 Ай бұрын
@@jamesj6597 I 100% agree with your assessment, but why are you replying again 8 months later lol?
@zweibaer.
@zweibaer. 9 ай бұрын
Those are good points. I'd like the Nordiques to move back to Quebec but the business aspect you bring up is logical. Tap a region and motivate them to become hockey fans especially if there's already an established major pro team. The southwest is really the only region where there isn't a strong NHL foothold. AZ is the perfect location, but it just hasn't worked out. Why play/watch hockey when you can play football? SLC is a cool idea, but I think culturally the sport and the ideologies wouldn't mix well. Also, it's like split between Denver and Las Vegas so it could be too concentrated.
@quelchx
@quelchx 10 ай бұрын
I have bee saying it for over 12 years. Come back to Canada. We need an even number of teams up north. The money is there I'm telling yeah I don't get the arguments against it. I love the Nordiques, if they came back I'd be supporting.
@cygnusx-1862
@cygnusx-1862 10 ай бұрын
The NHL doesn't want any more teams in Canada, I'm from the Chicago area and i say please bring back the nordiques.
@chelfilmroom6151
@chelfilmroom6151 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the NHL is more interested in TV markets than butts-in-seats. The Phoenix metro area is something like the 4th-biggest TV market in North America, so keeping the Coyotes in Arizona is key for maximizing the number of eyeballs that won't get to see the game because of local area blackouts.
@kevintorgrimson8529
@kevintorgrimson8529 10 ай бұрын
If they had someone other than a crook run the team Arizona could be made successful, no different than LV.
@Nay-kp6uu
@Nay-kp6uu 10 ай бұрын
​@kevintorgrimson8529 A crook? You mean a good person like Katz?
@TheAngryCanadian1109
@TheAngryCanadian1109 10 ай бұрын
More interested in tv markets lol if they were theyd end regional blackouts
@chazlucifer
@chazlucifer 10 ай бұрын
Tbh it’s not even about media or money anymore for Arizona. Bettman is keeping them in Arizona out of spite
@TheAngryCanadian1109
@TheAngryCanadian1109 10 ай бұрын
@@chazlucifer give him a few beers then let him sign the relocation papers thinking its a long term plan to keep them in Arizona
@brodi5367
@brodi5367 10 ай бұрын
Bettman is terrible....that's why. The NBA let him go for a reason.
@arensaraydarian4648
@arensaraydarian4648 10 ай бұрын
Hear me out… 40 team expansion. Atlanta (they apparently want a 3rd shot), Kansas City, Quebec, Hartford, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Houston, Portland. And then move the Yotes to San Diego if we have to.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 10 ай бұрын
This isn't a bad idea, but with that many teams you might need to have a Tier 1 and Tier 2, sorta like how European soccer works. At the end of the year a handful of Tier 1 teams get demoted (based on season points) and a handful of Tier 2 teams get promoted.
@miker6570
@miker6570 Ай бұрын
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 If you are referring to a minor league system. The NHL already has that system somewhat exists. Most NHL teams have 1-2 affiliate teams between the ECHL and the AHL. Now the NHL minor league system could be tightened up better. As of now the NHL leaves it up to each individual team to set up their own minor league affiliates.
@Seawiiplay
@Seawiiplay 10 ай бұрын
The exchange rate argument is kinda weak, its always been like that since the founding of the NHL
@krimsonshadow94
@krimsonshadow94 9 ай бұрын
Honestly you could charge Qubec fans like Leaf fans and that barn would be packed every night, exchange rate or not
@kmharnish
@kmharnish 10 ай бұрын
No, don't move Arizona, once they find a home rink and start playing well once they get rid of management they will have some of the most passionate fans in the NHL, it's just the same thing with the A's no one wants to see a poorly managed team. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the NHL expands 4 times coming up in like 6 years, to Houston, Atlanta (yes a 3rd time), Milwaukee or SLC, and then finally Quebec. Arizona deserves a hockey team and they have some of the best and fastest-growing youth hockey in the west, they care a lot about hockey. It was always a treat to travel to Arizona for tournament and get to play in very nice rinks, don't take their NHL team away from them.
@juliensavoie4742
@juliensavoie4742 10 ай бұрын
born in QC city, want them back too, would be to cool to cheer for them from Toronto!
@Fran-td7xv
@Fran-td7xv 10 ай бұрын
Very good video, but I have to voice my disagreement concerning the province of Quebec as being Habs' country. Most of the people from Quebec hate the Habs and switched to the Bruins or stayed with the Avalanche when the franchise left. They would get back in the Nordiques wagon in a heartbeat and we would once again have one of the best rivalry in the NHL, a rivalry that also exist in the Belle Province in the political, cultural and economical fields. You are 100% right though when you say no new hockey fan would be created. But then again, this in Canada; do we really need to have a new franchise in Guatemala to have new hockey fans? Why not create a great entertainment with great rivalries instead? I mean the whole world watches the Super Bowl because it is a great show and not because they have a football culture.
@lankancheetah
@lankancheetah 10 ай бұрын
Hey a shout-out to Shannon, the Hockey Guy! Yes he really does go into aspects we don’t usually think of.
@philtorrez4198
@philtorrez4198 9 ай бұрын
THG is my go-to
@otakumusprime7745
@otakumusprime7745 10 ай бұрын
When the Tempe deal fell through for the Coyotes I saw a bunch of celebrations and comments about how the team should move to Quebec in a Coyotes fan stream. I thought that was really gross and I have a pretty low opinion of Nordiques fans because of it, and I'm not even a Coyotes fan.
@dgstellario4433
@dgstellario4433 9 ай бұрын
relax, Canadians will never stop whine, just thank them they don't root for relocation to Iqaluit; as for me, this shitstorm makes me root for Coyotes success real bad
@louiscormier2203
@louiscormier2203 9 ай бұрын
Play 5 or 10 home games from Ville de Quebec!
@TheHat--Man
@TheHat--Man 10 ай бұрын
18000 seats in the videotron center. It was full during the series. It was half full during the season. More fans for a qmjhl team than for an nhl team
@allenelliott2114
@allenelliott2114 10 ай бұрын
Sadly new teams will only go to markets with little to no established base to "grow the game." It's a shame so many cities are being punished for loving hockey. I'm 100% for Quebec having a team, but another market that should have a team, but doesn't is Milwaukee. Hockey crazed state (a level near Minnesota) that has never had a team and probably never will.
@-phenom-
@-phenom- 10 ай бұрын
As a old Colorado Rockies fan, it was hard times after the Rocks went to Jersey and then became a legit team. But, it sure made it even more sweet when the Av's we're born....ermmm, the main point of this post was to be inspiring to Nords fans, but then I remembered the um, well the Av's history(gulp). Heck with it, I'll keep going, if/when NHL hockey returns to Quebec it will be worth it, I promise! Just hang in there! And I say if you're going to bring another franchise to Texas, make it Austin!!!
@martinfortin720
@martinfortin720 10 ай бұрын
this is why Gary Bettman needs to be fired he only wants a team in Arizona because his contracts states he needs to live in a city that has an nhl team so thats why he wants to keep a team in Arizona so he can live there during the winter
@hanslamontagne
@hanslamontagne 10 ай бұрын
Don't know that Quebec would be able to consistently sustain a hockey club. When Winnipeg moved we were having the same conversations 10 years later, trying to get them back and then we got them but it's entirely obvious that Winnipeg could at any point go under, what makes Quebec any different? for the record, I would love the Nords back, having an Owen Nolan jersey with the Nordiques logo would be FIRE!
@zacharyjeffares8158
@zacharyjeffares8158 10 ай бұрын
As a Canucks fan, I shouldn’t have anything to do with any eastern teams. But for me, I love the Identity of the Nordiques. Here in Canada every province has a rivalry: Vancouver-Victoria or Vancouver-Kamloops, Calgary-Edmonton, Saskatoon-Regina, Winnipeg-Brandon (that’s the weakest one), Ontario has like seven to eight, and Quebec has the St Lawrence Standoff of Montreal-Quebec City-Trios Riveres. I would love to see a team in the QUE. At the same time, I’ve always liked the Arizona teams (except the Cardinals). And it makes me really sad if the Coyotes aren’t going to be around.
@Muz__27
@Muz__27 10 ай бұрын
Ontario has 2 and Alberta has 2 so why not Quebec? Bettman is all about keeping hockey from expanding in Canada and growing it in the US. It's that simple. I'd rather have a team in Halifax with all the Maritimes supporting it than a team in Arizona where you'd need to pay people to go to a game.
@WaaDjooNoBoutDa
@WaaDjooNoBoutDa 10 ай бұрын
So it's okay for Alberta, a province with pretty much half the population of Quebec, to have 2 teams but it's not for Quebec ? Fairly sure you move the Coyotes to Quebec and you win on every front including getting new fans to watch and purchase NHL stuff, after all Arizona only has like roughly 7mil population and as we can see years after years, people don't want an NHL team there.
@gavinsheridan4680
@gavinsheridan4680 10 ай бұрын
How much of the Arizona problem is bad ownership history vs a bad hockey market?
@America-First2024
@America-First2024 10 ай бұрын
Atlanta would be the obvious choice to move to. Just kidding. I could see Bettman sitting in his office on the toilet pondering Atlanta. The Coyotes don’t have a home. It’s time to find them a place where they will be appreciated. I could see that happening in Quebec.
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 2 ай бұрын
Then what team from the Eastern Conference would have to move to the Western Conference?
@America-First2024
@America-First2024 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelleroy9281 in Bettman’s brain, the team located furthest east
@devilsharvest4375
@devilsharvest4375 10 ай бұрын
nah, Yotes should stay in AZ, if AZ does move to Quebec i think that's fine but dear god do not send them to houston
@shawnroachjr
@shawnroachjr 10 ай бұрын
dad wearing a new york giants hat???? goat
@MuhammadZegras
@MuhammadZegras 10 ай бұрын
I mean it there’s pretty much a 100% chance that it couldn’t be any worse than AZ right? Lol
@kevjapan
@kevjapan 10 ай бұрын
Enjoy your content man. Would be cool to see a team back in Quebec city. Gotta say I don't agree with your Blue Jays/Raptors point. Back when I was young I liked the Expos way more than the Jays. And I went to a number of Grizzle games in Vancouver- never jumped on the the Raptors bandwagon. Given more options I think you'd find love for Canada's team while strong , may not last. Would love to see the Expos and Grizz back!
@josephcantarelli7040
@josephcantarelli7040 10 ай бұрын
Arizona is an embarrassment to the game
@RDPq
@RDPq 10 ай бұрын
And nhl will make a lot money if they bring them back
@gabrielidusogie9189
@gabrielidusogie9189 10 ай бұрын
Salt Lake City and Milwaukee are great cities for Coyotes to move to. Nordiques would be great but yeah Canandien economics make it difficult
@guerillatactix3834
@guerillatactix3834 10 ай бұрын
Canada is taken for granted by the NHL. The players are scared to play here. The owners cry about the conversion rates despite knowing they are almost guaranteed sell outs on a nightly basis. At the very least, have more fans in the seats than 60% of the US NHL franchises. We're already outnumbered by the USA teams, its becoming boring to watch the NHL when Canada has next to no chance at getting a cup or getting players who are in their prime to sign for a team, unless they were drafted by said team. I can see why so many Canadians are now taken by minor league hockey. The tickets are cheaper and if you live in a small market, you're likely to see some future stars play for your home team because they're not concerned about taxes and such yet. They just care about playing hockey and want the pressure.
@jonathanvanessen5438
@jonathanvanessen5438 10 ай бұрын
Bettman is only gonna let teams relocate or expand in USA only
@YukiPyro
@YukiPyro 10 ай бұрын
Until Bettman retires, dont expect any Canadian City to get an NHL team.
@renegademan83
@renegademan83 10 ай бұрын
He works for the Owners. It's the will of the owners. Even if you replace him with someone else, that person will do the exact same thing.
@dennisjordan4952
@dennisjordan4952 10 ай бұрын
When the nordiques come back I'll go out of my way to watch NHL
@theodorebelmont7922
@theodorebelmont7922 10 ай бұрын
Need Quebec back so your old man can get back on the ice
@michaelleroy9281
@michaelleroy9281 2 ай бұрын
There's one thing about the Coyotes moving to Quebec one team from the East is going to have to move to the West don't ask the Red Wings they won't go
@michaelbecker2435
@michaelbecker2435 Ай бұрын
No team is going literally none of these morons realize that in order to bring in an easy team they would have to expand not just "give us" x team. Hell you (not you personally) had the chance to get QBC back eliminate the senators move them to QBC.
@bobbyboucher-mt2kz
@bobbyboucher-mt2kz 10 ай бұрын
on our plates in quebec its written je me souvien = to I remember lol hahahaha
@DERTHIX
@DERTHIX 10 ай бұрын
No more American Teams! 25 vs 7 is a f***ing joke!
@DERTHIX
@DERTHIX 9 ай бұрын
@@kevinbadger8030 No, more Canadian teams to grow the game
@hoozoohleague8264
@hoozoohleague8264 10 ай бұрын
Gary is in love with southern markets. These new expansion teams are thriving because they have all the help the league can give them. They would never do the same corruption for a "new" Canadian franchise. As long as the league is THIS corrupt, I honestly don't want a team in Québec. The fans deserve better. Clean the NHL from top to bottom, shitcan anyone at any level who ever was suspected of any wrong doing. THEN give back a team to one of the greatest hockey capitals on the planet. Or option2:: move the entire city of quebec to Nevada or the Everglades so they at least get the VGK preferential treatment
@chizorama
@chizorama 10 ай бұрын
Bettman put a team in Columbus fk'n Ohio, why do anything that makes sense?
@jotaemept99
@jotaemept99 10 ай бұрын
The only way I can see the Nordiques back is as an expansion team really, but at the same time makes is difficult, Houston, Atlanta, Kansas City, Milwaukee, San Diego and Salt Lake City are potential NHL cities that for sure are more appealing as american markets. Only time can tell.
@anthonyfaccaro7118
@anthonyfaccaro7118 9 ай бұрын
The other issue is if they move to quebec, they would go to the eastern conference, so some east team would have to go west. Only one that makes sense is detroit and they fought tooth and nail to be in the east. You could leave it 17/15 but that would be dumb and an unbalanced schedule that the team in the east who missed the playoffs by one point would complain about.
@pspboy7
@pspboy7 Ай бұрын
I agree. As much of a fan of the nordiques I was, now i cheer for the leafs. It's on the past.
@Goflamesreacts
@Goflamesreacts 10 ай бұрын
It's always awesome when johnny uploads
@patrickn594
@patrickn594 10 ай бұрын
So true
@Nay-kp6uu
@Nay-kp6uu 10 ай бұрын
I love when he advocates for relocation. Expansion is a no no but relocating is better I guess.
@Frosty_47
@Frosty_47 10 ай бұрын
So if they shouldn't split the province why do the flames and sens exists?
@DrScrambles
@DrScrambles 10 ай бұрын
Move them to Quebec and maybe in a few years Arizona will realize what they lost and will maybe want a new team like the Nordiques fans...or not, then who cares cause the market in Quebec is going to be way better than Arizona.
@ElmerFudd16
@ElmerFudd16 10 ай бұрын
If the Coyotes leave, at least 98% of AZ residents won't notice.
@Shave_n_Butcher
@Shave_n_Butcher 10 ай бұрын
If you look at the many cities (cities, not provinces) in Europe who have up to 5 elite level football (soccer) teams all with budgets many times bigger than any NHL team, that shows you can have 2 teams in a hockey crazy Quebec.
@chrismdb5686
@chrismdb5686 10 ай бұрын
I'd argue there's probably a missive population difference. Quebec City isn't particularly big
@Shave_n_Butcher
@Shave_n_Butcher 9 ай бұрын
@@chrismdb5686True but there's 8 million in the province so there's enough to go round for 2 teams.
@chrismdb5686
@chrismdb5686 9 ай бұрын
@@Shave_n_Butcher Ontario is around 15, with most of them living in/around Toronto (Canada's NYC), yet that isn't worth throwing a second team at in Hamilton. Not saying it isn't financially viable or possible, but the NHL sees something we don't that's keeping them from putting a team back in Quebec. If they wanted one there they'd have a team, it wouldn't be a question.
@jacoblamb3535
@jacoblamb3535 10 ай бұрын
Better than any other option
@ronpeacock9939
@ronpeacock9939 10 ай бұрын
If Quebec were in the states… the politiicans would be bothering gary to death about it until they put a team back.. but like the Expos… Canada does not have that same push. From a fan perspective, Quebec is where you want to go… from a $$$$$ perspective.. it’s far from it, and the NHL is all about the $$$$ now.
@fr0styy156
@fr0styy156 10 ай бұрын
NHL is ridiculous lately
@yourboiARR11
@yourboiARR11 9 ай бұрын
nordiques and the whalers should comeback and to even it out give portland and houston a team
@goodmanwiseman303
@goodmanwiseman303 10 ай бұрын
Gary Bettman’s *hand rubbing intensifies*
@trollo_ed8869
@trollo_ed8869 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Flames Fan and I think it would be awesome if Quebec Nordiques would comeback
@Stefan-rk6vl
@Stefan-rk6vl 10 ай бұрын
There's no one in québec that would buy a franchise or can afford one. Everyone needs to understand that.
@bjdixon739
@bjdixon739 10 ай бұрын
Worst idea since Atlanta. Let them fold, then give Quebec the same "draft" picks Seattle and Vegas got. Winnipeg got the Betman deal of acquiring shit team and are still struggling. Don't settle for a bust, yet again.
@gmac2558
@gmac2558 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what that Nordiques logo is supposed to represent?
@tylermackay7643
@tylermackay7643 10 ай бұрын
Respect for THG shoutout
@MrClamato39
@MrClamato39 9 ай бұрын
The banner "Bring Back Nordiques" are from my company, Communication Demo. The two peoples that hold it works for me. And NO, people in here don't cheers for Montreal, it's just we don't have choice. For my part, i will never cheers for Montreal, that's why my team is Calgary Flames.
@_eighty8
@_eighty8 10 ай бұрын
Bruins fan, please nhl. I want them
@studiohf6171
@studiohf6171 10 ай бұрын
I don’t exactly agree with the fact that Canadiens fans and Nordiques fans are the same. There used to be a huge rivalry between Montreal and Québec City when the two teams were around. A lot of Nordiques fans are still very sour about the move and never converted to the Canadiens. Some Nordiques fans hate the Canadiens so much that when their team moved, they decided to cheer on Boston or Toronto just to piss off Canadiens fans. The rivalry is still very strong.
@patricktemple9705
@patricktemple9705 10 ай бұрын
Your dad is or was a French teacher at Bishop Pinkham right? I'm trying to figure out where I know him from.
@alainboulanger3558
@alainboulanger3558 9 ай бұрын
Yes. That is me
@kurt1s53
@kurt1s53 10 ай бұрын
Montrealer here, Senators fan :P but I know what you mean
@Mark_72
@Mark_72 10 ай бұрын
The facts are that players want to play in big markets, like: New York, Montreal, Los Angeles etc. while Quebec is another Winnipeg or Phoenix Nobody’s dreaming to play there…
@matt_v_photo
@matt_v_photo 10 ай бұрын
At this stage even if it’s gonna be complicated to do, just fucking move them to Quebec. Idgaf if Detroit doesn’t want to be moved to the west.
@matt_v_photo
@matt_v_photo 10 ай бұрын
But when it comes to simple move which will save the Franchise 100000%, it’s either Houston or Salt Lake City
@williammontroy9024
@williammontroy9024 10 ай бұрын
Sorry Quebec you will never have a team again simple as that
@theold4734
@theold4734 10 ай бұрын
I as European do give a fuck... The games now start at 1am if they moved to the west it would be starting at 4am almost always... Not to mention that the location of Detroit is clearly in east. I dont know how are you this dumb guys to even suggest moving Detroit to west.
@matt_v_photo
@matt_v_photo 10 ай бұрын
@@williammontroy9024 I’m in California bud 😑
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 10 ай бұрын
Maybe Quebec can play in the West for a season or two. No, it doesn't make geographic sense but sometimes you gotta accept compromises to get what you want.
@Metal4Life198821
@Metal4Life198821 10 ай бұрын
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