JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Review! | DC | Warner Bros

[@BRWednesday]

Agreed. I like the commentary of the film, just disappointed they weren't able to flesh it out better. I think the film does a fantastic job at showing what happens to a cult of personality when the person at the top isn't the raging sociopath that's required for the position. A sentiment that's unintentionally reflected with the bad press in the real world. Everyone came for Joker and were disappointed with what they got.

[@tacoshack27]

Really enjoyed Joker 2. Exceptional performances from Phoenix and Gaga throughout though I felt it fumbled some in the third act and. I applaud Phillips for taking the chances he did with this film, even if some didn’t fully pay off. Iwonder if there was anything left on the cutting room floor that would have help flesh out some of the ideas he was going for in the movie. While I enjoyed the ending it definitely will make some fans lose their minds, not in a good way.

[@Vulcanerd]

This is going to be one of those movies that I'm going to have to watch on my own. I love Rocha and Kristian, etc, and I trust their judgement and respect their opinions, but I also diverge in my movie opinions in a lot of ways that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with if I trust their judgement or not and I think is going to be one of those.

[@tacoshack27]

@@Vulcanerd I hear ya. I feel this is going to be one of those films that people go to see if it’s as bad as people are making it out to be. While I enjoyed it my wife did not and she was a fan of the first.

[@thechewatson]

2 minutes in and this is already a far more eloquent and interesting review than any other I’ve heard. Thank you i now know way more than just “it’s not good”

[@JohnRochaSays]

Thanks for watching it, man, and I appreciate the kind words.

[@owenlanning5373]

Great review Rocha! My favorite person to listen to on KZbin. You do a great job of explaining your thoughts. Can’t wait to catch this movie and see what I think!

[@MrOiManDudeGuy]

I thought the movie really worked well at what it was setting out to achieve. I watched it twice and enjoyed it equally both times but I caught so much more on second viewing, it’s really quite perplexing

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

We need more movies to take swings and give us something new… whether is works or not ! I really enjoyed joker 2. Audiences are starved for something different. Its was beautifully shot and the performances were amazing. Nice getting something different from the rinse repeat CBMs of recent years.

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@JezzaBondiBeach Right, but if it doesn’t work and falls apart in the third act then the big swings become even more rare because the “rinse repeat CBMs” work more often than not.

[@chrisretzlaff2895]

I enjoyed Joker 2, I enjoyed the direction they took. The musical aspect was enjoyable, a bit long at times, but I love a lot of the songs they used. I was engaged in the continuing story, and Gleason was fantastic. The chemistry between Pheonix and Gaga was incredible.

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

@@chrisretzlaff2895 agreed 👍🏼

[@gavindecroce9168]

I was so torn on this movie. I really enjoyed the first two acts but thought the third act got way too muddled. It felt like Todd Phillips was trying to argue against the criticisms of the first one but accidentally fell into those criticisms with the sequel.

[@TerryKirkland-mq5nc]

Dont ever stop doing what youre doing rocha ✊🏽

[@JessieBanana]

I don’t think they succeeded with the commentary in the first movie. I think they they were to a pre occupied with the look/shock value, so I am not shocked they fumbled the bag worse when they had even less of a vision and inspiration to work from. It’s a shame because I was keeping my mind open because I do love many of the movies Gaga is in, but it’s a hard pass for me.

[@Wolfhunter5607]

wonder what DC would look like if Todd philips accepted the ceo job

[@Gavin48]

More risk taking. But sadly that's not what modern audiences want 😢

[@Wolfhunter5607]

@@Gavin48 what type of risk taking do u want. did u just hear about the robin movie they’re making? that’s a risk right there with the type of animation and clay they’re doing

[@Gavin48]

@@Wolfhunter5607 I mean more mature content and unpredictable movies. I miss the days of when a story took you on a journey. Now you either take risks like The Last Jedi and potentially Joker 2 (haven't seen it yet), Doctor Strange 2 over Deadpool and Wolverine which was just a cameo fest and all the other slop that make a Billion

[@Wolfhunter5607]

@@Gavin48 i think he would be the wrong person to run a cinematic universe with comic book characters actually feeling like they’re in a comic book movie

[@Gavin48]

@@Wolfhunter5607 well we have seen nearly 100 superhero movies over the last 3 decades. Might as well take into a new direction

[@jollyrayda]

I _really_ liked it, but I totally understand why most people won't. I'm glad me and my housemate saw it in an empty theatre, because there were parts that had us in stitches (which may be an indictment of our sense of humour, but hey). Both of these have been a great Elseworlds experience for me as a Bat-fan (don't really spend much time with the rest of DC) - a large portion of my comic collection is not the long-line canon books but the stories and series that present new and interesting takes on familiar characters, and this fits right along side them, for me. I've heard a lot of people say this seems to be apologising or making fun of or tearing down the first, but the more I think about it, the more I think of something else... Way back when Radiohead released their first album, a little song called "Creep" went absolutely ballistic. The problem was, no one in the band really _liked_ the song (the story goes a practice session was recorded, and those awesome guitar crashes were Jonny Greenwood trying to ruin it). Every gig they played, fans demanded "Creep", and it became this burden that they had to deal with. On their next album they wrote "My Iron Lung" in direct response to the unwanted popularity of it. Their journey away from pop is partially a result of the whole experience. For me the idea of unwanted popularity (or popularity for the wrong reasons), and pushing back against it, feels like the underpinnings of it all (not just in the movie, but from how Todd Phillips reacted to "Joker"s popularity). Joker is Arthur's albatross - and we all know what happens when you kill the albatross... (Hope that makes some kind of sense, I watched it 12 hours ago, so it's 4am as I write this 🙂)

[@Vulcanerd]

I haven't the chance to try this movie out yet, but you gave Phoenix his flowers for a great performance. Do you think it was good enough to be Oscar worthy or not quite? Or do you think his exceptional performance might be hampered by the criticisms of the film, itself, that it will hamstring him when it comes to awards consideration?

[@melishek0001]

THX for a mature review.

[@WriterusAeternus]

You and Coy are the only YT review channels that liked it. Thx for the review.

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@WriterusAeternus Well, 2.5 out of 5 stars doesn’t mean I “liked” it. I said it was fine. It was decent.

[@andycalmes4201]

Dan Murrell liked it

[@danielzamorano1990]

Awesome Job John

[@Carver94]

Great reaction John!

[@dereks860]

I’ve really lost any motivation to go out & see this movie. I’ll check it out eventually. Good review, John.

[@aripapermaster8047]

It’s better than the first

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@dereks860 Thanks, man. See it if you can. As I said, it isn’t terrible, but it does have a lot of issues in the third act.

[@vladimirjak8971]

Also, the end... I think it worked because... We never know a specific "origin."

[@JohnRochaSays]

Yes, we do. He killed the original Joker who put the idea in his head to be a Joker and took his mantle because he wasn't strong enough to carry it and become an even more insane Joker who will battle Batman for years to come. Easy enough origin story. "Saw this dude shake up the city. I was already crazy. Waited for the right moment because he was too weak to carry the movement,. I killed him and took his spot."

[@vladimirjak8971]

@@JohnRochaSays kind of didn't want to spoil that but after discussing with another friend, my original thought of a connecting to the dark Knight is actually an incorrect assumption. But it does make sense in a way like you mentioned, if "one couldn't follow through then I would" idea makes sense for "a version of an origin" for a Joker. Regardless, I dug it and most didn't so oh well. 🤷🏽

[@starkiller7096]

I enjoyed it brother no where near as bad as some ppl say

[@famousthaneus9810]

6:44 I’ve heard about what happens (shoutout to Spanish KZbin) and I laughed so hard, not at what happens, but at what I imagine the discourse will be. Mando mucha suerte a Todd Phillips, cuz oh boy

[@vladimirjak8971]

Just saw it and you have to flip the Joker/Harley dynamic to understand it. Overall, I did enjoy it.

[@JohnRochaSays]

Nonsense. That's not what the movie asks you to do at all.

[@vladimirjak8971]

@@JohnRochaSays I will disagree john, the one-sided relationship is flipped. That becomes the reason for some of Arthur's actions/decisions.

[@commandZee]

Thanks John

[@CHarr1991]

Seeing it Thursday night. The muted/negative reactions have tempered my expectations. Still gonna go in with an open mind , but sucks to hear they may have fallen victim to the “sequel slump”

[@theintake8961]

I'm not a musical fan! This is a terrible turn!

[@sebraven]

So is this an anti trump movie lol. The whole point of the joker is that Arthur flecks mental illness which isn't his fault and his delusions turned him into this " incel hero" , but he wasn't that he was tired of being treated like dirt because he had mental problems to the extent he didn't even have enough money for his medications as the system he lived in was cruel . And to undo this in this movie makes no sense

[@JohnRochaSays]

@@sebraven You find out more about how much of that was the truth and how much of it wasn’t in this movie.

[@jwiggins1112]

Great Review...seems like Woke Musical Trash imo