JonBenet Investigator Analyzes Burke Ramsey on "Dr. Phil" | E! Red Carpet & Award Shows

Retired F.B.I. Supervisory Special Agent James R. Fitzgerald sounds off on Dr. Phil's shocking interview with JonBenet's brother. Listen in.
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[@Presley3]

Kidnappers do not molest their victims inside the victim's house. Murderers do not leave Ransom notes.

[@darkhorse9472]

Obviously this one did! DNA from an unknown male eliminated the Ramseys, along with other potential suspects.

[@salmaalbadareen2019]

@@darkhorse9472 the DNA on the girls underwear turned out to be fallacious. So any suspect can be the murderer

[@valvacious2793]

@@salmaalbadareen2019 - also, if an intruder did it, why isn't his DNA on the Noose?

[@Beachandpool]

Interesting points!

[@Beachandpool]

@@darkhorse9472 lmao! NO it didn't!

[@carolsceniak9673]

whole family is weird.

[@darkhorse9472]

You're weird. Hopefully you never sit on a jury.

[@JameyLeanneCooper]

You’re very weird

[@hybridous]

Many of us are weird. Not so many kill their family members in their own house.

[@09rja]

Normal is what people are until you get to know them.

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 OK ..... BURKE !!!!! 😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆

[@jdexcalibur1989]

I can imagine Burke's lawyer watching the docu series and said to himself "time to act they got the case solved" .

[@sallie6]

Dr Phil FAILED to ask Burke which room did he go to when he got out of bed to play with his new toy? the basement in the train room?

[@franceskajacobs2766]

And Doctor Phil has the same lawyers as a Ramses

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

Dr Phil is logical enough to know that the new Xmas toys would've been on the 1st/ground floor, not in the basement.

[@BlackKettleRanch]

Let's talk about the smile. Burke had all of the attention and was spoiled to the nth degree until JonBenet came along. Not only was the attention that Burke was so used to taken away when JonBenet was born but she was put in the lime light in beauty pageants. Trophies, training, primping, photographs, video, thousands of dollars spent on JonBenet for these pageants. What child would not feel neglected, sooner one who had already started his most formative years as an over-privileged narcissist. Burke's jealousy was completely out of control. Fact: Burke had hit his sister in the face with a golf club. Fact: Burke had a problem with spreading human shit in the bathroom and put a bunch of it in JonBenet's bed. He hated his little sister and wanted her gone so he could have the attention again. Patsy, being a self-absorbed narcissist herself, left those kids unattended in that house on a regular basis. The autopsy reads that JonBenet had old damage to her genitals, but did not show signs that she had ever been fully penetrated. JonBenet had been taken to the doctor 21 times in 1-2 years, at least one time for "vaginitis". Burke killed JonBenet by cracking her over the head with a heavy flashlight. The parents already knew that Burke had damaged her genitals because Patsy left them alone too much and were trying to cover that up. Now that she was dead, the parents knew that an autopsy would reveal that fact. So either Burke or John would be accused of doing that to her. If it was Burke who had damaged her, then John and Patsy would be found guilty for child neglect. John and Patsy had to make it look like an intruder broke in and assaulted and killed JonBenet. And it certainly was easy to blame someone who had seen her in pageants. John and Patsy contrived this ridiculous ruse to cover up for baby boy Burke. They covered for what he did to her sexually, they covered for him hitting her with a golf club, they covered for him smearing shit on her toys and putting it in her bed, and they kept covering for him his entire life. Burke won. Burke got his way. He got his parent's attention back exclusive. Look at him in the interview as a child with the police. Look at him in the videos at JonBenets funeral. Zero remorse. Zero sadness. So back to the smile. That fucked up smirk on his face has NOTHING to do with him being an isolated, awkward young man. That is a smile of feeling "special"...in the lime light. The attention is on "me". Everyone gets to see "me". And it is apparent that this guy still has the mindset of a kid. He has not matured. Watch how his expression changes to serious and even a held back "pissed" when Dr. Phil asks him questions that gets too close to the truth. Toward the end of the interview, he never quite gets back to that giddy expression where he's elated to be having all of this attention that a solidly-developed narcissist craves. He has been so used to mommy and daddy covering for him that he thinks he is perpetually in the clear on all of this. He's conditioned to be that arrogant. You don't fool me, Burke. You killed your little sister, and that shit-eating grin on your face is your selfish, calloused narcissism that is happy to be getting all of the attention with JonBenet out of the way.

[@AmberGraves80]

I completely agree with you. Everyone keeps saying that he has social anxiety and that's why he is smiling, but if he was so socially inept, why is he doing an interview? I know people personally who have terrible social anxiety and I am pretty sure they'd rather die than go on tv and do an interview. He's obviously a disturbed person who has been ducking his consequences for years.

[@belladoyle3468]

They proved it unlikely with modern science that she was sexually assulted. What do you mean former damage to her genitals? God this gets worse and worse.

[@Matic-777]

Tina Huston well done!

[@myyui1977]

Tina Huston d

[@susanwaldron6831]

Tina Huston well said. I'm very close to someone with both Aspergers and crippling anxiety and there's no way they would be able get through the interview in private so there's no-way they'd agree to an interview on that show .

[@quantumqubit8074]

The most disturbing part of watching Burke at 9 and Burke at 29 was how elated he was at how upset his mother was in regard to JonBenet. His “duping delight” smiles in both interviews speak volumes to me. Burke lied to Dr. Phil about his mother comming in to the room. It was his father, he told the psychologist at age 9.

[@BugarJones]

True. And he admitted to the psychologist at 9 that he *did* want to go and find out what was happening, contrary to what he said on Dr. Phil.

[@AwfulDog1]

Not duping delight. It is a forced smile. Big difference. He is anxious and uncomfortable.

[@B-ch6uk]

His mother went to his room after reading the ransom note to see if he was safe. Later John went into his room as well.

[@reneenayfabnaynay5679]

Quantum Qubit, Davida is right. The "duping delight" is a micro expression. Meaning, the expression is there and gone so quickly, sometimes they can only be seen if the person is recorded, and then viewed in slow motion. It's not a smile that stays on the face for more than a split second or two. So, I agree that his smile was just from nervousness. When I was a kid I used to laugh sometimes during tense situations. Like one time, my lil sis started to choke on her food. My dad jumped up and grabbed my sister and tried to help her. I started laughing. My parents got soooo mad at me. But, I really wasn't laughing because I thought it was funny. I was just scared. I'm thankful I have more control over it now! But, I've never gone through the trauma of losing my lil sister in such a horrific way!

[@brittaolson6550]

Davida Kiernan You have a good point.

[@nataliealvarez1021]

Reasons this was an inside job: - No forced entry - nanny said no intruder would have been able to find the basement or even know that was the door to the basement by the way it looked. She maintains this is impossible. - 911 call is extremely telling: after thinking they hung up, you can clearly hear the mom's tone change immediately, and she says to someone: Called the police, now what, you hear burke say "what did you find?" and the father respond with "We're not talking to you", then the mother says "My God, what have you done." - Police comes and child is found in the basement by authorities. What parent wouldn't check the house top to bottom if their child is missing? - Ransom notes are an average of 70 words, this ransom note had 385 words, with a very specific asking amount which so happens to be the exact amount the dad had just received as their Christmas bonus. How would an intruder know this? - Handwriting on ransom note had purposely mispelled words and resembled the mom's handwriting. She could not be ruled out by experts as the author of the note. Also, the note was written on a pad the mom owns, and marks on the pad show evidence of multiple drafts of the note having been written. - They said when they arrived home that night Jonbenet was already asleep and never woke up again, however she had undigested pineapple in her system and there was a bowl with pineapple in the kitchen, both her and her brother ate it at the same time. Why lie about her being awake and eating a snack when they got home? Additional evidence that implicates brother: -Nanny mentioned described his agression towards her, he had smeared poop all over her bed and toys once - On another occasion he attacked her with a golf club and left a permanent scar on her face - Brother always appeared happy after her death in photos, interviews and even videos of the funeral procession. Anyone who has a sibling knows that is not normal behavior.

[@darkhorse9472]

There is zero evidence to support any of your statement ZERO. DNA from an unknown male eliminated the Ramseys, along with hundreds of potential suspects.

[@shannonegan9076]

DARK HORSE actually everything she wrote was fact and you know it

[@gigi9301]

@@darkhorse9472 Burke, can't you see that you're clearly outnumbered? Get back on TV, make some more money, and FAIL to convince anyone of your innocence.

[@akanetendo8340]

@@darkhorse9472 why would you defend that spoiled brat? Are you a troll?

[@darkhorse9472]

@@akanetendo8340 DNA from an unknown male left at the crime scene eliminated and cleared the Ramseys, along with hundreds of potential suspects.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

So, when asked about the pineapple, why did young burke move around in the chair so erratically? You know, if I were innocent I'd say without hesitation, well...that is a picture of a bowl of pineapple. He couldn't answer as he wasn't sure how to approach it. Anyone can tell you this is an abnormal reaction.

[@darkhorse9472]

The Ramseys were all cleared over a decade ago...get over it, bro.

[@unvisbleone1126]

DARK HORSE NOO

[@darkhorse9472]

@@unvisbleone1126 What part don't you get? DNA found at the crime scene cleared the Ramseys, as it has hundreds of other suspects in this case. FACT! All evidence points to an intruder/s.

[@pesquallyflanger1319]

DARK HORSE the Ramseys have been cleared of nothing! Stop your nonsense!

[@pesquallyflanger1319]

DARK HORSE there is no evidence of an intruder! NONE!

[@melissasw64]

The Ramseys got Burke his own attorney when his sister died? I can't imagine why anyone would get an attorney if their child was killed by a stranger, but somebody please give me one single reason for getting an attorney for the sibling? Or give me one other case in which a sibling had an attorney. Ever. In the history of the world. That little shit (pun intended) did it, didn't he?

[@AwfulDog1]

attorneys for all...only in America!

[@reinadegrillos]

Most probably, yes. Parents didn't want to lose another child. Hence the coverage.

[@alicesmith7913]

I always thought Burke was the one and the parents covered it up. Now, I am convinced of what I have always speculated about.

[@samsonfriday1876]

alice smith hello

[@darkhorse9472]

What you think and speculate is NOT evidence. The Ramseys were cleared over a decade ago.

[@pesquallyflanger1319]

DARK HORSE nonsense!

[@jimadams8272]

@@pesquallyflanger1319 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Give it a rest, Burke.

[@zzzthaoster]

To me this case was solved, when they brought up the undigested pinapples in jonbenet's stomach. That tells me the killing happened while they're still eating pinapples, therefore it's not an intruder that did this, it's one of the family members. Adding to the fact that Burke has attacked her before viciously with a golf club seals the deal for me that he did it. This time he attacked her with something else, possibly the flash light and he hit her over the head instead. Case solved. Kids attacking each other will progress each time it happened. I've witnessed my own nephews attacked each other. I have to stepped in because one might end up killing the other. That is why his parent try so hard not to involve/include him at all with the investigation, saying he was in his room the whole time, he had nothing to do with any of this.

[@justjoy7194]

And a very good reason to be in his room. If these people were not well off, the Police would had made him come out of his room, or even felt odd that he was in there...Perhaps keeping a dirty secret?

[@CJTranceAddiction]

BINGO!!!! JACKPOT!!!! KABAAM. Exactly, my friend. That's all the proof you need! What, she eats a pineapple and suddenly she gets attacked by some intruder. You gotta be kidding me! The people that don't want to believe it are just like the mother...they want to protect Burke and not rob him of his innocence. As well, they WANT to believe it was some sick bastard that did it. Burke made a mistake that night. Unfortunately, it was a mistake he could not undo.

[@8luvbug]

"Attacked her viciously with a golf club before" That was an ACCIDENT. You can think Burke killed Jonbenet, but don't try to change the truth to fit your narrative.

[@carolkitteral7220]

8luvbug on the CBS docu, Patsy's friend stated that patsy told her that Burke was in a Bad mood when he stuck the girl in the face with the club.

[@Erin.56]

Agree Chris!!!!!

[@pauljamessquibbs.3945]

Lol.... Killed his sister, then made a living out of suing people for saying he killed his sister.... That's living the American dream baby!!

[@darkhorse9472]

The Ramseys were cleared over a decade ago, bro.

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Ok ..... Burke.

[@remnant4363]

Not funny man

[@gamislatte5470]

yes, burke DNA was scientifically found on the pink nightgown.. So undeniable evidence he killed her and parents covered up for their son by writing bogus Ransom Note.

[@pauljamessquibbs.3945]

@Leonard Holt Jeffrey Archer won a case against the tabloid media by telling lies, which only came to light when his alibi eventually grassed him up. If you think the legal system is infallible you are greatly mistaken.

[@carolsceniak9673]

If he did it or not the guy is damn weird.Would not want him around my daughter.

[@stephenquesada409]

its okay to call him weird but can you answer what boys you do allow around your daughter? can you tell me what time it is from your watch

[@Presley3]

If Burke did it. Who was molesting JonBenet then??

[@542pixie1]

David Presley is there proof she was molested?

[@pamelacarnes9652]

542mixie12 no proof. I think the parents did something after death to try and throw off police. It appeared that someone did it after or during the assault.

[@542pixie1]

Pamela Carnes omg yes I heard with Patsey’s paintbrushes or something plus no sign of breakin. Breaks my heart 💔

[@heriroseedrada3528]

Parents will always be... They choose to protect the child that they still have and alive with them.. Poor beautiful baby girl... 😔😔😔🙏🙏🙏 She needs a justice too...

[@MikeBrown-ex9nh]

If the family had been poor and the girl hadn't been a child beauty contestant this would have been forgotten long ago. Sad!

[@Meme-go9ts]

But, I honestly think the case is unforgettable due to many odd events that took place and made it hard to piece it together. Mainly, the family's reaction from the beginning along with their actions didn't help.

[@mikeappleget482]

Memé The only reason it was “hard to piece together” was because the Ramsey’s had their PR team and the DA (which was essentially their lawyer disguised as the DA) controlling the narrative and hoodwinking the public into believing it was a complicated case. There’s nothing complicated about it. The son (or a tiny chance one of the parents) killed JonBenet and then Patsy wrote a ridiculous 3 page ransom letter to try and point the finger elsewhere. All the “evidence” pointing elsewhere was the work of clever PR firm’s & LE who were in on the coverup.

[@pesquallyflanger1319]

Mike Brown if the family had been poor, the Ramseys would have been in jail for, “child abuse resulting in death!” They would’ve served their 4-12 year sentence and long been released.

[@sunnydelight5255]

No because it had beauty (JB) money (her dad) and a great confusing mystery.

[@tatyanamelnikoff9578]

burke did it. according to the family portrait photographer, he had a chip on his shoulder regarding jon benet. jealousy. he also had a problem with defecating on jb's bedroom walls--yeah, he'd smear it all over her stuff. and here's the clincher--he had a history of swinging golf clubs at her head. it's all documented. the father changed his story regarding putting them to bed that night. first, he said that he read to the both of them before putting them to bed, meaning, that they were both awake, which would also explain the pineapple consumption. then, he changed his story to: jb was in a deep sleep in the car on the way home. he put her straight into bed, without her ever having woke up. that's the lie. both kids were both still awake when they got home. a tiff occurred. and burke hit her in the head with a flashlight. a 9-year-old kid can swing that like a baseball bat, or a golf club. after some expert proved that it was the flashlight, burke sues for 125 million. that would certainly deter anything. there's more that i've researched, but this is enough. it's a clincher. the kid did it. parents covered up. burke quote: at the funeral, "my dad kissed jb. that traumatized me." really? why would that traumatize you? he still loved her? even though you killed her? you're weird, dude. do the right thing, and turn yourself in. imho. i do think it's the truth.

[@gigi9301]

@Mango Roxx Why would that traumatize you? I kissed my mother in her coffin a few years ago. I think a lot of people do it; it's just normal to reach out to the last image of that person, even though you know they are gone. Burke was already a messed up little fucker; I really doubt a kiss to his deceased sister made him one inch more batshit crazy than he already was.

[@B-ch6uk]

@Mango Roxx It's very common to kiss someone you love - even in a casket.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

They both lied John Ramsey lied Patsy Ramsey lied they lied so much they forgot their own lies anyone who lies always tries to point the finger at someone else Burke was awake no intruder take a psychology course any children that are defecating in their beds bedwetting abuse I believe Burke was abused to just my opinion definitely had too much time alone think about it the friends they didn't call that morning the steins with their son I believe his name was Doug was Burke's friend look at the crime scene the bathroom in the basement feces smeared all over the wall they referred to Susan Stein as patsies Pitbull not trying to be mean she look like a man the whole family twisted poor JonBenet there was was an interview she said she wanted to be a pediatrician to help people get well she was a beautiful sweet little girl rest in peace JonBenet you're with God he'll protect you forever in our hearts and the ramseys there is a judgment day God sees everything shame on you

[@franceskajacobs2766]

Burke's lying to John Ramsey you're getting old I will never forget when he found her he said it on national TV on dr. Phil carried her body upstairs and put it on the floor he said she looks so peaceful you narcissist insane she was brutally murdered she had a rope around her neck horrific and they all got away with it they had a memorial service I think it was an Episcopal Church in the writing from the Ramses and hence They're laughing saying how how we got away with it sick

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

@@gigi9301 Burke probably saw his father stick his tongue in JonBenet's mouth.

[@nicoleymacaroni]

Funny Burke never mentions trying to find his sisters “killer”.....

[@valerielock2374]

Or the parents didnt seem to look hard

[@valerielock2374]

Never seemed like the parents looked very hard to find who done it! You would think they would be begging for help

[@JBthree24]

John Ramsey reminds me of Chris Watts, Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson. All are “still searching” and doesn’t seem phased at all.

[@hannibal999]

@@JBthree24 and don't forget Gerry and Kate McCan

[@luskapani9905]

They did it.

[@robertshepherd8543]

They accused former friends who had started to question if Ramseys were involved.

[@Bocatanya]

After watching the cbs documentary ,Burk did it by accident but the bottom line the kid is a sociopath

[@misterE-1989]

Burke smashed her skull in, in a fit of rage (not intentionally wanting to kill her), with the flashlight after she stole a piece of his pineapple. The parents; not wanting to lose both children covered it up.

[@kidloog1]

yeah that would really fly with a jury, the guy has never shown any violent tendencies in his twenty nine years with no criminal record but he bashed his sister's head in for eating a piece of fruit. if i was on a jury id be laughing my ass off. keep read your tabloids

[@johnathandoe]

+ray bernard Did you even watch any of these shows? It was revealed in at least two of these shows including Burke's interview with Dr Phil that Burke had hit JonBenet with a golf club(and that would hurt like hell). Of course Burke said that was an accident, but we may never really know the truth. He's been under scrutiny and in seclusion almost for all this time after so that might explain why he may not have a criminal record that we know of.

[@raem.6512]

Did none of you listen to how the golf club incident happened? if you're doing a backswing and someone walks behind you it is an accident. if he had done it on purpose that would be different. People honestly all of this is just nuts. very respected investigators were later called in and found plausible reasons to support an intruder. The bottom line in my opinion is that the local and harassed her father.

[@johnathandoe]

+Rae Parmeter Of course he's going to say it was done on accident now that he's suspected of murdering his sister. The truth is that it may or may not have been by accident, but we may never know for sure. Patsy's friend also spoke of this golf incident and she didn't seem to think it was by accident. Burke is shady at the very least and seems to have lot of love for his mother but hardly even cares about his sister. He's a sociopath for certain.

[@sewingmachinetipsandtricks9079]

I feel there is something to Burke's possible involvement with his sister's death. People may try to explain his constant smiling and even laughter during the Dr. Phil interview as a nervous reaction, but take a look at the old videos of the funeral, when everyone is exiting the church. Burke is smiling there also the entire length of the video. He doesn't look sad or upset. From my experience, children in such a situation either are sad and usually crying, or at least take on the emotions of the adults around them. Burke looks positively gleeful as he bounds down the steps of the church and walks up the street.

[@carolkitteral7220]

Richard & Donna Caldwell I noticed Burke smiling outside the funeral also!!!!

[@1klini2o29]

Richard & Donna Caldwell I have a friend who’s mother die and the funeral someone make a comment to her. She smile and laughs after people’s was talking about her. With out know the person who make a comment was remaining my friend a funny experience when she was a child and her mother used always talk about it. Children’s act different and funerals. My youngest was and the funeral of her grandmother she was sad. But that not stop her for smile and run silly around the funeral. I believe this was a outside from the family.

[@pamelacarnes9652]

Sewing Machine Tips and Tricks I agree. And as an adult, even if you memory is gone you would have a glimmer of sadness. What did you think about the linguists examination of the ransom note?

[@nollysgrandma]

I do think the Burke did it & I'm sure in more than one form he has paid dearly. Because he was under the age of 10, he could not have been prosecuted in the state of Colorado, but their reputation AND his would have been destroyed. Because they were wealthy enough & smart enough to destroy the investigation, in more ways than one... they managed to mostly protect Burke's reputation. The reason I believe burke is guilty of accidently killing his sister is it is the only theory that makes perfect sense. How easy could it be for a heavy flashlight, swung in anger by a almost 10 yr old, to kill a 6 yr old, if the blow hit the right spot? Very easy. I don't think he meant to kill her, but I think he accidentally did cause her death. The parents tried to cover it, by creating a crime scene, telling lies, using clout, throwing money, & retaining more than a few lawyers. Enviting several friends over to unwittingly help contaminate evidence, was especially brilliant, considering they had just lost their 6 yr old. I excuse the retarded ransome letter, for that same reason. It was a necessary blunder to throw the cops in any other dirrection than the family. Every other theory has 50 holes. the Burke did it theory has none. The mom said she wouldn't have put a big spoon in the bowl of pineapple. That's because Burke had gotten it himself, & she wasn't in the kitchen to correct him. He was up alone. Then Jonbene' got up for the last time, ate her last bite, turned to run, & woke up in heaven. Wonder which parent has had to agonize over leaving that flashlight on the counter? Or not being in the kitchen to prevent tragedy? Or destroying themselves mentally, (& for Patsy physically) to cover for a child that will never be right anyway? Very, very sad, but no mystery. The truth always makes perfect sense.

[@thebellatheball]

Yes and the fact that Jon snubbed burke after the murder is telling. What parent would snub the sibling of a murdered sibling. One that is the parent of a murderer of their other child, that's who!!!!

[@carolkitteral7220]

Joeann Griffin yes!! And this is why John Ramsey is no longer rich, becouse he paid off some investigators, like Lou smitt, and DA Alex hunter who refused to indite the Ramsey's even as the Grand jury suggested.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Wow, so much money was wasted on Burke's protection. I hope it was worth it for them! I mean, they lost their daughter and yet they're paying to keep her murder a mystery. Man, what a terrible situation to live in.

[@Erin.56]

As you put it in the Burke theory there are NO HOLES. You are absolutely correct...

[@harleyhoudini8997]

you think that he has "paid dearly"? burke himself said he was just living life and was happy right after she was buried. He has not paid at all...and a child would have been prosecuted for murder. It is not too late to get that freakazoid behind bars where he belongs. If he could kill his sister, he could kill anyone else.

[@Clementine1966]

I respectfully think that Patsy and john covered for their only remaining sick son. RIP precious child JonBonet.

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

Wrong. John covered for Patsy having inflicted the head bash in a jealous rage due to him having committed incest and [with her help] the later ligature strangulation. Patsy covered for John having committed incest and [with her help] the later ligature strangulation due to her having inflicted the head bash in a jealous rage.

[@SimpleLifeAlways81]

@@79bewareofpuppies97 nope. Clementine is right.

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

@@SimpleLifeAlways81 I see you're more psychologically comfortable with blaming a child than you are with blaming an adult.

[@acolley2891]

The dad said Burke was asleep when they went to check on him. Burke said he sat up and saw his mom come in, so... obviously he was not asleep! Please explain the history of sexual abuse. Detectives said this was not the first time.

[@darkhorse9472]

JonBenet's pediatrician testified there was no prior sexual abuse. Burke did not say he sat up when his mother came in the room, that is false.

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH THEY ARE GUILTY!! And YOU know it !!!

[@gamislatte5470]

@@darkhorse9472 john benet autopsy report (confirmed by 6 other doctors) confirm prior chronic sexual abuse...meaning INCESTUOS relationship by either burke or john....look up dictionary word: incest opened in john bedside table hahahaha..

[@dennistrull1475]

The pediatrician said he never looked. Had no reason to. The autopsy said different.

[@glittercertified7220]

@@darkhorse9472ummm !! Yes He Did! Not Sat Up Literally”

[@amanda3963]

I watched all the documentaries on this murder I was 8 when she died and remember my mom reacting to it and now as an adult and mother I think Burke did kill her and it was on purpose in the sense that he was aware he hit her full force in anger and he knows he meant it and has no remorse over it he didn't than and doesn't now and his parents covered it to protect him. Watching him as a child in the interview he does NOT care that his sister died, he was happy she was gone!!! And I have no medical background but even I can see he don't have all his marbles, he's mentally ill.

[@deef3430]

Ban Ban )

[@peggyely3773]

I agree Burke killed Jonbenet hitting her with the flashlight parents covered for him.he for sure has always had a mental issue.

[@Presley3]

But she also had signs of being molested too. Was her nine-year-old brother also molesting her??

[@DR-qd7go]

@@Presley3 Could be. He was obviously a sick (and still is) person.

[@karadiberlino]

@@Presley3 No, she was not molested. It's been proven in the CBS documentary. The mutilation of her body was post mortem. The blow to the head was fatal. She died within a short time of severe brain damage. The rest is cover up, disgusting. Her father mutilated her body while the mother wrote the note. Since then, Burke can't stop smiling.

[@crystalmarie9071]

I came across the same damn flashlight at my grandmas house! that shit was heavy as fuck! them old fashion flashlights arnt no joke

[@Erin.56]

A major weapon it is... even for an almost 10 year old boy.

[@AnnieFlorida]

The parents DID NOT KNOW JonB had grabbed the piece of pineapple. Had they’d known they would have not said she went straight to bed. Caught them. And Burke in the interview looking at the picture of the pineapple was just plain freakish.

[@hallsjuju2400]

They also couldn’t see her head injury.

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

The photo Burke was shown was in black and white. How is he supposed to tell there is pineapple in the bowl when there isn't any yellow in the photo?

[@dennistrull1475]

​@@79bewareofpuppies97He remarked..Oh!!! What was that about?

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

@@dennistrull1475 Oh, I don't know... Perhaps it might be nothing more than... oh, let's say... an interjection?

[@dennistrull1475]

@@79bewareofpuppies97 definitely could be. It's on a video.. really looks strange

[@Eudie64]

Patsy did not Lie saying she did not kill her daughter... Her son did.

[@Erin.56]

Yes. She was telling the truth. And so was john. When they said "no I did not kill my daughter. " But they knew who did and said nothing....

[@Eudie64]

Burke has always been socially awkward and Jon Benet was not and pushed to do just the opposite with the Pageants she was in. She probably got more attention than he did. At such a young age, this can be a big problem especially when the awkwardness is not regulated or given attention to. Jon Benet was DA hit in this family, she made her mother's dreams come true. They must have realized that their daughter was beyond rescueing after the blow to her head and decided to do everything to keep their son. The shame would be too big in all.

[@jenw6009]

Ada de Graaf she always made a point to say, "I didn't not..." and "John did not..." I haven't heard her say "Burke did not..." or maybe she did? I'm not aware.

[@firehorse66elaine]

actually she did, in an interview

[@susansimpson2181]

ada d graaf, that's right. She emphatically said she didn't kill JonBenet, that John didn't kill her, but she did not say "Burke did not kill her" She conveniently left that out.

[@farmerd6]

the most telling evidence of the families involvement in the murder was the ransom note. they demanded 118,000 dollars for her. the exact amount of johns Christmas bonus. what are the odds of that, and jon bonet was in the house the whole time.

[@darkhorse9472]

The Ramseys were cleared over a decade ago, all evidence and DNA points to an intruder.

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH They are GUILTY!!

[@gamislatte5470]

@@darkhorse9472 the touch DNA points to at least 6 different intruders hahahaa...why John's DNA was NOT found on the leggings? even though John carried her upstairs from the basement hahaha...because of Mary Lacy Idiotic understanding on touch DNA evidence.

[@laxntg]

I want that as a Xmas bonus...

[@jimcook2715]

And the deadline came and went without John saying anything

[@melissasw64]

Whether or not he did it, he is a strange person. I can't imagine a child whose sister is murdered in the family home, reacting with such apparent disinterest. Even talking about it 20 years later, its as if he didn't really care. Of course, everyone reacts differently, but they do react. People normally display some kind of emotion in reaction to the murder of a family member--something other than a creepy smile. And he never even read the ransom note.

[@1klini2o29]

melissasw64 did you know his eyes expression, the eyes are the light of the soul. You can notice the sadness and his eyes. Iam nervous I smile still when I don’t did nothing wrong sometimes I can’t help it. I hide my sorrows my bad times with a smile. Still when all I want to do is cry. We don’t know what this young man have to go trough.

[@darkhorse9472]

@@1klini2o29 Well said!! Im glad you are not judgemental like others on social media. I too smile when I am sorrowful. xo

[@darkhorse9472]

melissasw64 You are not an expert, and everyone is strange, or weird. Burke Ramsey was a 9 year old child and was never considered a suspect by Boulder Police when his sister was heinously murdered. All evidence points to an intruder. The entire Ramsey family, along with hundreds of others, were cleared long ago through DNA found in 3 separate areas of her body.

[@srujanadash6660]

@@darkhorse9472 and also let's not forget he was NINE years old, his brain and emotions weren't even fully developed. to find out that your sister has been murdered can cause serious ptsd especially for a child causing strange behaviour and even multiple personalities in some cases to deal w trauma. and people saying that there were no footprints in the snow, there was no snow!!! it was a false statement made by the police to scare them. plus if she was such a favourite child then the parents would never cover up her murder to protect their "unfavoured" son time and again. people are just angry that he was a rich boy and had access to what he wanted that's why they keep calling him a spoilt brat and blaming it on him.

[@franceskajacobs2766]

Did he go on national TV to try and strike up another lawsuit

[@kittengirl14]

I agree after watching the CBS special and Dr Phil's interview that Burke accidentally killed his sister and John and Patsy covered it up. Every time the pineapple issue came up he acted very strange. Like when he was showed the photo of the bowl of pineapple when he was 9, he wouldn't say it was pineapple. Then when Dr Phil asked him if he and JonBenet ate pineapple that night, he hesitated and then said weirdly...Maybe. The feces reference in the cbs special was weird as well. If you carefully compare the ransom note with Patsy's copy of the note there are a lot of similarities in the writing style and some of the letters look like they were purposely disguised. I hope the truth comes out one day!

[@zagaroma1]

Burke was NEVER a suspect and the family has been totally cleared and apologized to by the DA. The DNA found on JonBenet doesn't belong to anyone of her family. So why can't you and so many other people let them finally in peace? Are you slow learners?

[@missymani]

You missed the second part of the show didn't you...You know, where they said there is no evidence whatsoever pointing at Burke and there was found and unknown male DNA in the girls undies and under her nails. And where the police admitted they lied to the media to pressure the family.

[@sobrien6472]

Clearly, you didn't pay attention to the documentary at all. A forensic scientist explained, by actual demonstration, that the DNA on the underwear could have clearly been caused by "touch" DNA during the manufacturing processes. They proved this by opening a new package of underwear, having the FBI investigator touch a pair, and picking up not only his DNA, but that of a female who never touched the undies during the test. The DNA on JonBenet's undies could have been picked up in any factory in China! There was also no mention of DNA under her fingernails, as her fingernails were not mentioned at all in the documentary.

[@carolkitteral7220]

missymani both episodes of the case of Jon benet Ramsey , pointed at Burke throughout the entire series. You probably been watching a different show.

[@paulaacosta9954]

kittengirl14 sheep

[@AnnaJunus-hm8cr]

I remember at the time thinking "why are the parents behaving this way if they're innocent?" Parents will do anything to find the murderer of their child - unless they know or believe the murderer is another one of their children. They've lost one child, they don't want to lose two. It's natural to want to protect your children. And at the time I wondered why no one was mentioning Burke as a possible suspect. At least I didn't hear anyone mention him.

[@Samantha-wg9qu]

Why don't they just do a lie detector test?

[@AmberGraves80]

I find it weird that so many people are citing Burke's smiles and laughing as social anxiety. I know people personally that have crippling social anxiety and I assure you they would rather die than do a television interview. I can't understand why he would have been willing after all this time to do an interview if he was so terrified of it. And then he sues the network the second he realizes he looks bad? I'm sorry, this simply does not make sense. I have believed since jump that Burke hurt his sister which resulted in her death and her parents covered it up, and to me this awkward and sinister interview simply seals the deal. His mother and sister are both dead, and he just giggles his way through.

[@darkhorse9472]

@ Draculady123 Yes, Burke Ramsey is nervous and awkward and people like you are judgemental and uneducated in this case. FYI, he sued the made-for-tv docu-drama series, not the Dr. Phil show or that network. Get it right. #dotheresearch #evidencematters #justiceforjonbenet

[@gamislatte5470]

@Maynard Runkle ​ @DARK HORSE ​ @Maynard Runkle Maynard Runkle 1 month ago @DARK HORSE I read it was a Caucasian. Where did you see "Hispanic?" --> SO HILLARIOUS that you two (@drak horse & @maynard wrinkle) can not even agree what the Foreign Faction belongs to...Caucasian foreign faction or hispanic foreign faction? hahaha..LOL...typical LIAR can not get their story straight...just like Patsy & John.

[@tinahillsdon2776]

@@darkhorse9472 exoerts have seen this interview and they have said something is not right, going to question them too. Wake up he did it or he knows who did it.

[@lomeiniac7536]

I’m late to this, but FYI I have crippling social anxiety and I absolutely smile in odd or awkward situations because I don’t have the inborn instinct of what to do with my face while socializing. It’s either a stone cold stare or a stupid grin, and I’ve learned over the years, that the constant grin makes me look deranged at times, it’s better than my neutral face that looks like I’m plotting a murder so... yeah. Keep that in mind 😁

[@user-de1vp6fd9e]

@@lomeiniac7536 yeah but if you're that anxious/nervous/socially awkward, would you choose to go on national TV and be interviewed about the murder of your baby sister who died 20 years ago? I'm also pretty nervous (not as much as Burke seems to be) but I wouldn't dare go for a television interview. I don't even like doing presentation for a class.

[@simonrodgers3278]

so why cant this be re opened as a cold case and get justice. The mother is dead and thats karma . but the other 2 can still be prosecuted . and the problem with this is ??

[@donnaseelhoff2192]

Simon Rodgers statute of limitation has passed. Even if whoeber did it confesses or is proven guilty by evidence..they cant be charged.

[@Emilyfosterf1]

They need evidence not speculation

[@jocano4408]

@@donnaseelhoff2192 there is no statute of limitation in a murder case.

[@scottoverbey7809]

No no no no statute of limitations in a murder case

[@scottoverbey7809]

John and Burke need to be indicted incarcerated and hung up by their Buster Browns right in the middle of San Quentin

[@ilisten1163]

Burke did it and his mom always knew. Possibly even saw it or helped. I don't have reason to believe the dad was involved but he covered for them during the investigation as well

[@ameliasingleton1166]

Jon Snow yeah i dont think john ramsey had anything to do with it i believe he went to sleep but patsey was still up and the kids to

[@Erin.56]

Jon. Burke did it. His mother and father did NOT help him ! They were only involved after, in the coverup..... Burke did this alone. Whether by accident or on purpose is irrelevant. HE IS GUILTY. This case has finally been solved after 20 years!

[@Erin.56]

Neither the mother or father was involved. But there was someone inside that house who killed her.... BURKE!! Her brother killed her. Period. End of story.

[@Erin.56]

Patsy had nothing to do with this murder either!!!!!

[@BlackKettleRanch]

I think John moved her dead body and choked her to put marks on her to make it look like she was strangled to death instead of bludgeoned to death. John was a sailing hobbyist, so it was possible that he knew how to do sailor's knots. He probably made the garotte with the intricate knot in it. And the garotte was made from Patsy's paint brush. I mean, common! Here is an excerpt from a WestWord article interviewing John's sailing buddy, Fleet White: "White, who was John Ramsey's sailing buddy before a highly publicized falling out shortly after JonBenet's death, believes the full record of official actions taken by the grand jury, including possibly other charges considered or rejected, should be released. "We can only assume that there's other stuff in there that one would find in a criminal indictment," he says. "[Boulder District Attorney Stan] Garnett gave all this material to the court. Why would he give them anything that isn't relevant to an indictment?" The Whites' complaint, filed earlier this week, cites a strong precedent for the full release of information detailed in a grand jury indictment. In 2007, regarding a battle over access to the extensive indictment of Aaron Thompson in the death of his daughter Aarone, the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that state law "requires the indictment to be released for public inspection in its entirety." Whether that precedent applies to an indictment that prosecutors declined to endorse is another issue. As they say in the string section, stay tuned." John and Fleet probably had a falling out because John asked Fleet to stay quiet about John's sailing and knot tying experience and Fleet refused. John was a part of the cover up.

[@sha9192Vmez]

Sudden bedwetting from a child is a major sign of sexual molestation! I learned that in my child PSYCHOLOGY class!

[@lovedanger786]

Sharnae Vermudez she wasn't molested. the fingerprint is probably from manufacturers if the panty was new

[@lisa863uknowme]

Love Danger I thought they saw signs of penetration

[@sha9192Vmez]

Crazy World​ that's what I thought too

[@cheerycolours]

Not forgetting the fixation Burke had on faeces. And Jonbenet had 33 visits to the paediatrician for genital yeast infections within a period of 3 years. These are signs of sexual abuse, possibly.

[@sha9192Vmez]

@cherrycolors.. 33 visit's.... Wow

[@judithpittman1233]

it was a big cover up.

[@darkhorse9472]

There is no evidence to support your statement. The Ramseys were cleared over a decade ago.

[@gigi9301]

@@darkhorse9472 Burke, is that you??

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Give it a rest. You know they are GUILTY. Really .... is that you BURKE???

[@jimadams8272]

@@gigi9301 Yep ..... I think so ! 👍👍👍

[@gamislatte5470]

@@darkhorse9472 hi burke...how is feeling lonely with no wife or girlfriend...please dont think to ever hit any other kid with that golf club ok?.....restrain yourself and repent burke...its not too late.

[@definitelynotaginger1991]

Why did he have an attorney separate from his parents as a 9 year and 10 month old boy 💁🏽

[@brittaolson6550]

Definitely Not A Ginger Good question

[@darkhorse9472]

There is no evidence to support your statement

[@ariloves10]

@@darkhorse9472 are you a lawyer?

[@sendtoanthony]

I couldn't even watch the whole interview. That permanent grin was too annoying.

[@Erin.56]

Agree... it was so off putting. And I now have zero respect for dr Phil.....

[@darkhorse9472]

@@Erin.56 Dr. Phil holds a doctorate in clinical psychology, While at the University of Tulsa and Midwestern State University, he earned a Bachelor of Arts in psychology. He then earned his Master of Arts in experimental psychology and Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of North Texas. He began working in private practice for several years while also holding large seminars for patients. The entire Ramsey family was cleared over a decade ago, and 9 year old Burke was never considered a suspect. Dr. Phil doesn't lose any sleep due to your "off putting". Millions of people around the world appreciate his professionalism and credentials. He explained Burke's awkwardness and nervousness, He's the expert, not you.

[@gigi9301]

@@darkhorse9472 No, Dr. Phil is not currently licensed in Psychology. Technically, he is not an expert. Why weren't Patsy and John at least asking that the cops not drive up directly to the house? Why weren't they running around trying to get cash together, or hunched over the phone at the right time? Why did they INVITE people to come over when the note said if they did such things, their girl would be killed? They didn't take the note seriously. I would have! Burke clocked his sister in the head with a golf club about six months before she was murdered, and he smeared his own poop in her bed and on her walls before she died. Just a normal brother???

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH They are guilty and YOU know it. Stop with the denials. 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@jimadams8272]

@@gigi9301 Excellent comment!! Well said ...... 👍👍👍👍

[@catsadilla324]

That damn pineapple, man.

[@peck404]

over🍍 an then🔦...burke. ... but you know what I can't get past is the severity of the cover-up and the things the parents are able to do to the body without any tears showing up

[@catsadilla324]

Kelli Erin I think they did. Remember, JonBenet died hours before the parents made the call that she already had signs of rigmortis when the cops arrived and "found" JonBenet.

[@carolkitteral7220]

Do eat burke pineapple man!!!

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

m I o . o I m they didn't find her. Idiot cops didn't even LOOK. I know a LOT of good, intelligent police. These are not them.

[@user-ri5zd7yu7o]

jealous brother kills sister parents cover it up. lawyer up to protect son from media. now the sons trying to get his 15 mins of fame.

[@darkhorse9472]

There is no evidence to support your statement.

[@nickyb7266]

I agree with this theory!!

[@nickyb7266]

Except he doesn’t want fame.. he was probably told to do this interview by his lawyer!

[@nataliedapellari2814]

DARK HORSE actually there is more that enough evidence

[@darkhorse9472]

@@nataliedapellari2814 There is no evidence JonBenet was killed by Burke or any Ramsey family member. There are however, over 200 pieces of evidence pointing to an intruder. This includes DNA left on separate areas of JonBenet's body (including under JB's fingernails from her fighting for her life) from an unknown male with Hispanic background. The DNA excluded and cleared the Ramseys, along with hundreds of potential suspects.

[@michelleblackmon7391]

he says what his moma told him to say....

[@deemor5013]

Burke is one very strange chappy! .... which doesn't necessarily make him the guilty person..., but IMO he'll do, until someone more fitting comes along. His oddness is more than Asbergers, more than being the brother of a murdered child, more than being a spoilt kid from a very wealthy family; more likely it's something much graver. MUCH graver.

[@bebe2973]

Just because a person acts strange doesn't automatically mean they have Asperger's (not "Asbergers")

[@petal979]

Because you'd know, being the expert that you are

[@Jan-wj1vi]

There is something very wrong with Burke. I was 3 when my brother was 19 and died in Vietnam. I did not even know him...I feel so much frustration, pain, and sadness to his life being cut short, that I did not get to know him, grow up with him. I agree with those that says this Burke guy has issues.

[@suzygordon2331]

I was 7 when my 20 year old brother was killed in Vietnam.

[@robertshepherd8543]

In the Dr. Phil interview, Burke never stops smiling. Creepy.

[@broncoschic6512]

he did it

[@camilawenger]

yep.

[@goonie79]

The biggest tell from Burke was when he was 9 years old, and talking with child psychologist where he talks of fine details only 8 out from his sisters murder of a knife or hammer being used. Now, what type of insensitive parents would be willing to share these details with a 9 yo before even talking with police, which didn't happen till months later? Along with this, Burke reenacted the exact motion and angel of how weapon was used to mirror the impact to Jonbenet head. How would he know to do that?

[@goonie79]

+goonie79 I meant to say 8 days out from the murder of his sister.

[@Erin.56]

100% correct Tener !!!

[@beckyearnhart4578]

People really need to see the interview Burke did. There were some key damning statments he made. I think he unintentionally , critically injured Jonbennet. He seems maybe borderline personality. There is definately something wrong personality wise with him.

[@missychelle33]

Do you know if borderline personality is? I would be more willing to say he might be on the spectrum… But I didn’t see any signal of borderline personality that is like dealing with like fear of abandonment and a dependency issue. And you won’t learn any of that from an interview like this one

[@Beachandpool]

And what about the family drawing he did back then? Very telling.

[@robert-pj3bc]

@@missychelle33 Definitely on the autistic spectrum and there is no shame in that.

[@missychelle33]

@@robert-pj3bc nope def not. One of the best people in my life is on the spectrum. :)

[@stevensonjc21]

I was just about to ask do u even know what boderline personality is lmao

[@vapidrabbit198]

ehhh, after watch the dr phil interviews, i think he did it... or is at least hiding something. it's just a feeling based on how he was acting...

[@Steven-hq4mb]

vapid rabbit Do u have a degree in psych?

[@holdencaustic]

vapid rabbit investigations don’t get solved on “ feelings”

[@glendaadams2130]

son shows no care..has no feelings..

[@tenevas666]

This young man with psychiatric problems it shows it is a certainty

[@charaardrey5846]

CBS solved the case

[@Erin.56]

Yes finally! This case is solved. Burke is guilty.

[@paulaacosta9954]

Allison J. dumb shit

[@darkhorse9472]

Chara Ardrey -CBS is getting sued for false information to the tune of 750 million dollars!! That show was a JOKE!!

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 Ok ..... Burke.

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

@@jimadams8272 James Kolar had the need to psychologically distance himself from John Bennett Ramsey. If clean-cut, mild-mannered, successful businessman, and loving family man could be capable of committing incest with and having to murder his daughter (provided the history and circumstances), then Kolar would have to face the dark realization that he, too, could be capable of the same with his own daughter.

[@mamc9634]

He looks like Elijah Wood in Sin City.

[@saraenglish3344]

seriously ? he was hidden for years.. it's anxiety and the guy is socially inept

[@millercork]

Prior to her murder Burke hit her in the face with a golf club and used to smear his own shit on her belongings

[@melodierahmeyer4258]

millercork can I ask where you got that Information?

[@millercork]

In relation to the golf club incident, that was conveyed by an old family friend of the Ramsey's in the recent cbs special and the police found the excrement in her room, smeared on her belongings and a fair sized amount of it on her bed.

[@steppy3736]

millercork The parents explained that and so did others; it was accidental. I've never read/heard that he spread anything on her stuff.

[@SofiaBerruxSubs]

@@millercork I know guys with anger issues and their not bad guys

[@lisabuynar4744]

The boy is kind of off.

[@tomtucker3128]

+Mary Corder If that DNA was the killers, then why wasn't there any of it on her body, the rest of her clothes, the rope, or anywhere else in the house, other than a very small spot on the inside of her underwear. The prosecutor jumped to a conclusion before asking for expert opinion. The police are still of the opinion that it was someone in the house, most likely Burke. Just because there was dna, doesn't necessarily. mean it was the killers dna. It could have come from any number of places.

[@tomtucker3128]

+Mary Corder If that DNA was the killers, then why wasn't there any of it on her body, the rest of her clothes, the rope, or anywhere else in the house, other than a very small spot on the inside of her underwear. The prosecutor jumped to a conclusion before asking for expert opinion. The police are still of the opinion that it was someone in the house, most likely Burke. Just because there was dna, doesn't necessarily. mean it was the killers dna. It could have come from any number of places.

[@darkhorse9472]

@@tomtucker3128 There was DNA from the intruder found in three separate places on JB"s body...under her fingernails, mixed with her blood in her underwear, and on the sides of her long underwear. The DNA came from one person, and produced a profile from an unknown male. When a match is found, the murderer will be arrested. and this case will be solved. The entire Ramsey family was cleared over a decade ago. The authorities are now focused on the DNA found at the murder scene.

[@jimadams8272]

@@darkhorse9472 BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH 😂🤣😆😂🤣😆 🤪

[@AntMaxBanglaGameplay]

@@jimadams8272 haha you doing a good job

[@elizabethlacey6230]

when this happened, a thought of ''brother'' came into my head. when i thought about it, i wondered if john ramsey's older son could've been involved, because that made more sense. now i know why i heard that....because burke did it.

[@michelleblackmon7391]

that's a day he should never forget

[@sharralynnpiercewoolworth6358]

A garrot is too sophisticated for a nine yr.. old.

[@AwfulDog1]

how naive you both are. My daughter constructed a triple pulley system off our balcony when she was 6 and built her own go cart at age 9. No help from anyone. Even so, I don't believe anyone in the immediate family was responsible for this crime. There were one, possibly two, break and enters in the neighbourhood that involved assault of young girls in their beds in the previous few months.

[@arielsiegel3781]

Burke is an introvert. His childhood trauma I feel is why. He didn’t kill his sister.

[@adele-md4rm]

We don't know if he killed her but he certainly acts like he is glad she is gone. And IF he did it the parents have some really off thinking not to have called an ambulance for JonBenet and get him some help.

[@Tatti349]

A body language expert said on that dr phil interview burke definitely did not like jbr and was happy she died. You can tell in the funeral footage and old interviews of Burke he wasn't the least bit bothered.

[@rochellehibler1044]

Yes I saw where they showed burke walking outside after jonbenet funeral and he is smiling . In the interview with psychologists they had him draw a picture of his family and he only draws him and his parents. When he is on the Dr Phil show Dr Phil asked him about him drawing the picture and he told Dr Phil that she wasn't alive anymore so he just drew him and his parents . That made it seem like he wanted to forget that she ever existed. The whole family lied about everything right from the start. Everything points to it being either John burke or patsy. They know exactly what happened .

[@JohnMiller-bg5pk]

So the way Burke acts, as a 9 year old and a 29 year old, doesn't live up to your expectations. Mr Ramsey was cordial to the detective, and she found him guilty of his daughter's murder in her head. Mrs. Ramsey doesn't act enough like a grieving mother. All subjective observations that mean nothing in a courtroom. If they had evidence there would have been prosecution, of someone. Nothing here proves anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@raem.6512]

+ John Miller well said. Amazing that KZbin has so many lawyers, Medical doctor, psychologists. and forensic pathologists who have obviously had access to all of the evidence and interviews. Dang what do we need the courts for. We should just sit back and let everyone who comments on the Internet judge all crime

[@CJTranceAddiction]

And why is it that we judge the crime??? We're only judging based on the info the many lawyers, medical doctors, psychologists and forensic pathologists who you speak of provided for us. This is some serious stuff, nothing to brush over. Burke expressed some rather disturbing behaviour towards his sister. It would be ridiculous to think there wasn't at least SOME possibility that he may have been involved.

[@2degucitas]

The investigors blamed the parents. Now he's going after Burke. Just because he has behavioural issues doesn't mean he's guilty.

[@bluewrenreilly129]

That;s why the DNA proved the family everyone of them had nothing to do with the killing?

[@2degucitas]

+LeChewingGumXXXXXXXX Thats a theory. They can't prove it for certain.

[@greenpeas154]

How is it proved? Their DNA had to be all over the house.

[@jacquellaspencer830]

+LeChewingGumXXXXXXXX if the DNA was put on there from the manufacturing process, it would impossible for them to had found the same unknown male DNA on three different parts of her body. As they found in this case. DNA also does not stay on clothing through the washing process. No one ever said if Jonbenet's underwear was new. The whole idea of them saying that the DNA was from a manufacturer is impossible. It's just a way for them to look over evidence that leads away from the Ramseys. If the case was that easy to solve it would have been solved 20 years ago

[@KaydeyRai]

J Spenc Wouldn't it be easier if you just read up on the evidence and police interviews? What's the point of even having an opinion on a case you know nothing about? Nearly everything in your comment is completely wrong, The DNA wasn't on 3 different parts of her body, it was 3 different parts of her BRAND NEW unwashed underwear (waistband,seam and crotch) and on the waistband of her pj's which were also touching her underwear - they were all degraded and really tiny amounts that didn't even meet the bare minimum to be considered a full profile (13 markers), odd for DNA at a fresh crime scene - In fact there were 6 separate DNA profiles found on JB Male 1 - Left fingernails Male 2 + Female 1 - Right fingernails Male 3 - Underwear + waistband of PJ bottoms Male 4 - wrist bindings Male 5 - garrotte Is it very likely that all these people broke in and murdered her? I think it shows how easy it is for a person to pick up foreign DNA in their everyday activities

[@rossto862]

He was never even a suspect. Leave the guy alone.

[@gutenbird]

You are correct. The parents were the ones who grand jury voted to indict.

[@hughhaefner5486]

Burke was just nervous. That wasn't a smile on his face it was a nervous tick. He didn't do it.

[@lorilemmonsharvey3633]

My child has been a victim of a crime, but thankfully she is alive. I can tell you from experience that people including the victim and the family are put through the ringer, evil suspicions are rampant, and just out right judgement and cruelty abound. We all react differently to stress. Some people have a nervous smile, some people are completely capable of holding themselves together, and some of us fall apart. Police are great at making assumptions of what they think the facts are especially when they don't know what the heck happened as in this case, and when they have made mistakes themselves. Then the "faithful" media shows the public clips and stuff that don't give a whole picture. Reporters and police are not always objectionable! They filter through their own bias and beliefs from life. I have experienced the cruelty of citizens reading the newspaper and thinking they know everything about a situation or a family. None of you know, but let me tell ya you will stand before the almighty for wrongly judging a person and putting them through further torture after they have already experienced the unthinkable! To keep myself from being judgemental against all you guys' yucky comments and suspicions all I can do is express that I hope none of you ever have to experience the horror of any type of crime against your child.

[@thebellatheball]

Yes and no boundaries-danger to society for sure. JMO

[@Mbeepyd]

MacGregor Mathers I believe him when he said something along the lines of not liking confrontation or conflict, I think he's a chilled guy and you can even tell from old photos that he was kinda awkward. If you carried the sadness of that crime with you every day for years you'd have a hard time functioning and staying well- obviously he's just moved on and is going about his own life because that's what he sees as logical. We don't have to put him down because he isn't 'mourning' enough.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Exactly!!!

[@Erin.56]

Except we are not wrongly judging a person...

[@full-throttleprincess5120]

Lori Ilene you are absolutely right. courts of law are guilty of not painting the whole truthful picture either. And sometimes there is just no explanation or it is one that requires more than a yes or no answer.

[@peck404]

after Burke hit her in the head with a flashlight over the pineapple(((😭😭 I wonder if John Ramsey cried when he put that paintbrush choked out on his dead daughter's body I do?)))))

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

The note is Patsy's confession (on a subconscious level) that JonBenet had to be ransomed to pay for John's sin of incest and Patsy's sin of assault (head bash in a jealous rage).

[@steppy3736]

Of course Burke was "odd"; he's been isolated from society for years.

[@yibbil3]

I think Burke did kill his sister but I don't think it was deliberate,he was angry with her and struck her on the head with the flashlight not realizing his fit of anger and power behind the fatal blow. His parents concocted a story to protect him .He was young and easily manipulated to lie and fear was put in him by his parents. His parents also panicked and people due weird things and their judgment when under extreme duress . He would not have been held accountable at the time for his actions but possibly his parents didn't know the laws. But he would have carried the stigma around him for the rest of his life,but now he carries the lie to protect his parents...the whole thing is unfair . His parents put this burden on him. Maybe he will come clean in the future but he still will walk free and he should be free because he still has to live with what he did ...his whole family was ruined. Very sad case of injustice anyway you look at it.

[@MMARussy]

I don’t think we’ll ever know if Burke did it or not but I believe Burke knows who did.

[@megannovak7433]

How come I have not found interview on the son and father together!?

[@bonnieivan1841]

Maybe John killed JB and Burke knows but maybe John told him he killed her cuz he felt Burke deserved more attn and maybe Burke due to his so called childhood and the anger and hatred towards JB never told cuz he worships John for making him his parents number one child and John fearing someone may discover this had told Burke to tie those knots and help him stage cover up and figured if anything that Burke would gladly help cuz he wanted to be number one and only child getting attn he got before JB came along. Maybe thats why he convinced Burke to play along and Burke was sent away lawyered up so if anyone maybe came close to the truth Burke ...John knew would never give up his happy feeling of getting all the attn and both parents were deeper involved with...just saying pedophiles etc and Burke seemed like a way to cover up their involvment cuz they could always claim tho they loved him it was just too hard knowing that he prob molested his sister. I mean the parents had to b involved in bad stuff which involved the kids and i hope someone gets what im trying to say...may this child rest in peace

[@gracebarr7874]

But everybody is forgetting tha the pooor little girl was a victim of sexual abuse for a period of time and that she had been sexually assaulted or molested the day she was murdered. I haven't heard anyone mention that. Poor little angel, how could they hurt her? Those people (father, mother) were cold! They didn't look at all like two parents who had lost a child.

[@sobrien6472]

We still mourn her death, but it has subsequently been proven that she was never sexually abused.

[@greenpeas154]

Seeing the interviews after her death, they do not look like normal devastated parents. Their speeches are cold and like prepared carefully beforehand. They do not seem telling the truth.

[@moniahuntley180]

She was never sexuality abused.. ( read medical report) This was all orchestrated by parents to protect their song as he killed Jonbenet intentionally. he never knew what really happen because parents started protecting him from the Very beginning sending him to his room right after he strike her, they make him believe that something else happened and that someone else did something to his sister. Everything happened in the kitchen area. That s how everything starts!

[@JayneAngelinaSkye]

maybe she was molested at the friends house by someone there because the mother said they were at a friends house then we left and jon benet fell asleep in the car. why they didnt interview or look into that?? the police messed up big time wit there investigation

[@harleyhoudini8997]

Wrong S Obrien...the autopsy said that she had been sexually abused.

[@gforce5459]

According to the recent A&E special medical examiners say the strangulation came first and the blow to the head later.

[@lpt369]

thats incorrect, they didn't say that and in fact both medical examiners said that the blow would have been fatal

[@costernocht]

"Strange affect" -- isn't that what they said about Lindy Chamberlain?

[@gigia6849]

exactly!!!

[@suefreewoman6581]

Lindy Chamberlain was innocent, though.

[@stevnated]

I think it's most likely the kid didn't ever know he killed her (accidentally) but parents protected him at all costs. He probably doesn't know.

[@deemor5013]

stevnated - I agree.

[@xavier7316]

stevnated yeah he was not planning on killing her just hit her out of rage and the parents cover it up because they didnt want there kid in jail or so

[@christianlee1602]

The "break in" was badly staged, topped off with the ridiculous ransom note written on the mother's writing pad that appeared to be in her own slightly altered handwriting. The question then is who in the family did it. This also seems pretty obvious when you put the pieces together, but can't be proven.

[@teeniebeenie8774]

burkes interviews were total indictment of him doin it. sad

[@akanetendo8340]

Thank you for your work man.

[@charlottesometimes07]

It's a smile that hides the crying , sir

[@Hamigal]

That young man was being molested as well. He did not kill his sister. His Dad knows who, why, how, and was 100% involved.

[@btetschner]

Are there many cases where both the daughter and son are molested?

[@lisabuynar4744]

I believe he did kill his sister

[@Trapper4265]

Wow, that insightful and definitive. Why was this three minutes commentary even performed?

[@jackieholmes5587]

CBS lost the lawsuit that Burke filed.

[@sweetlikez]

This FBI preaching!! Yes, i think this Dr. Phil interview was on point. Yes, Burke was nervous etc, but his behaviour is similar to the two past interviews he had when he was 9 and 11.

[@BugarJones]

It's like he's been frozen in time.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

He's not 10 anymore. He's almost 30. Should know it's totally inappropriate to giggle and smile about the brutal death of your sister. ESPECIALLY if they are unsure who did it or where they are. Too much weird sh*t here. A 9, almost 10 year old kid chooses to stay alone on an upper floor when he can pretty much figure out something serious is going on about his sister. *I* wouldn't want to be alone, for damn sure, even now. Two, the cop doesn't search the house? SERIOUSLY??? Hypothetically, she could have been still alive! They were in the house 6 HOURS before finding her? Come on, that's insane. THEN the father finds her, and they MOVE THE BODY, when she's clearly in rigor mortis. TWICE? Then the idiot cop lets half of Boulder wander all through the house... Why did she eat pineapple before she died? If she were scared, she wouldn't eat. WHY would a real child killer write such a ridiculous note, asking for way less than they could have=the almost exact amount of the father's bonus, yet? HTF would they know that? That neither spouse went to.comfort each other, and NEITHER went to collect their other child is bizarre. You're not in on it, you want them THERE. Also can't see putting young children on a floor by themselves. How can you HEAR them? The huge flashlight: rich people HIRE someone to fix stuff. They generally never own any tools, nor know how to fix anything. Meanwhile, a much smaller light works just as well. Oh, and the father breaks the window IN WINTER, and doesn't have it fixed?? Just doesn't jibe. Where did the pineapple come from, with Patsy's fingerprints on the bowl? No rinds anywhere? After swearing the kid didn't eat any more that night? You have kids, don't you CHECK ON THEM before doing anything else??? Laundry, getting dressed first? Not buying it. They have a dog, conveniently not there that day..? But she knew her killer. She ate friggin pineapple with him! You don't eat if strangers are kidnapping you. And Patsy lies lies a f*cking rug every other breath. Everything she says comes off as badly acted. Women that lose a child, ESPECIALLY one that was horribly murdered? It's this shadow you can ALWAYS see right on their face. Pasty doesn't have it, or didn't when she was alive. She knows something. Or did. If not for incompetent Boulder cops, they'd have found the guy right away. Whether in the family or not. A scent dog would have helped.

[@viccig.9383]

i always thought what kind of parent would cover up their childs death for the other? but who would both parents cover up for? the son...so maybe he did do it and thats why the parents did the big cover up... still strange that any kind of parent would garrote their child and do all that other stuff

[@janinelederman8441]

Yes, that part doesn't make sense. Why the garrote and sexual assault? Why go that far?

[@amyecorbin]

@@janinelederman8441 I believe she had been assaulted for a long time and it wasn't something new. As for the garrote, possibly her parents decided since they were going with the scheme to save their son anyway, they should put JonBenet out of her misery, because she'd likely have terrible brain trauma if they'd kept her alive and she would be a vegetable for the rest of her life. Just a theory, but that's the only reason I can think of, as of now, why they would have chosen to use it.

[@szaki]

Burke hit JB on the head with the flashlight, so to get away from Burke, she ran down to the basement, to hide. Burke garroted her to make sure she's dead, she was not, because JB tried to pull the tight snooze off her neck with her hand, that’s why she has her own DNA under her nails and nail marks on her neck at the marks left by the snooze. Maybe Burke used the rails of the train set to electric shock her, to see if she's really dead? Then a sling was used on JB's both hands to pull her in the vine cellar, the killer could not lift her up, JB was too heavy for Burke? JB died before the vine cellar door, peed on the carpet a lot as she was laying there, dead people do that, releasing bodily fluids after death. The trails of urine show JB was dragged into the vine cellar. Pee stain on the carpet was covered with Patsy's painting set box. Yes, I think 9-year-old Burke can do all that!

[@billa1870]

Please give Dr. Phil more credit than he has been given. He is very good at what he does.

[@SimpleLifeAlways81]

Ha. No.

[@hemadear2509]

Doctor please get them to reopen the case. Do justice to the kid.

[@btqy]

They asked the parents did they kill instead of do u know who did it.

[@Bozlee22]

GUILTY

[@gamislatte5470]

yes, The Grand Jury has indicted the ramseys.. the Grand Jury had access to 100% of the evidences and they got it right!

[@bethanymikulcik9514]

Ball on aluminum bat the end you hold is death blow

[@jenniferdickson9398]

He was 9 years old when his sister was murdered in the privacy of their home, he had to be pretty mentally messed up over it. It was not only dealing with the death of your sister but scared the killer may come back in his House. People y'all need some compassion.

[@maul8684]

We need compassion like he had, taking a dump in her room after she died? Putting his feces in her Christmas chocolates and in her bed? Did you know he hit her in the face with a golf club once and her mother took her to a plastic surgeon to see if the mark near her eye would heal or not? We only know this because a neighbor reported that the brother was angry once and hit her with a golf club, about a year and a half before she died. Patsy said it was an accident and she walked up behind him, but that isn't what she had told the neighbor a year before. Some gifts given to the parents that Christmas included books about "How to deal with a difficult child" because their son was smearing feces in his sister's bed and chocolates, because he hated her. Go watch the footage of him at 9 years old skipping down the steps grinning at her funeral. Watch him laugh in the child psychologist interview.

[@adele-md4rm]

where is Burke's compassion Jennifer? I haven't seen one OUNCE of sadness for Jon Benet

[@jimwilson3554]

This murder will never be solved, waste of time analysing, talking about now.

[@Erin.56]

Jim it IS finally solved ! BURKE RAMSEY KILLED HIS SISTER... His/ her parents covered it up because they didn't want to lose Burke too....

[@susangeorge6656]

It's obvious Burke did it. He should admit it and write a book

[@petal979]

How is it obvious, lol

[@brianarmstrong4894]

No need. They make more off of keeping it a mystery. I wonder how much Dr. Phil paid him for his interview.

[@theblakex]

you obviously didn't watch the CBS show they proved Burke did it

[@petal979]

Blake X I watched, they proved nothing, if they had proven it, he would be under arrest right now..is he???? Americans are so gullible

[@susangeorge6656]

It was either Burke, or one or both of the parents. I think it was Burke. It would be almost impossible to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt at this point because the original investigation was so mismanaged. Did anyone notice that the ransom note said the "kidnapper" would call at 10 a.m., and that neither parent even noticed when 10 a.m. came and went? Any parent who really believed their kid had been taken and that the kidnapper would call at 10 a.m., would've been anxiously awaiting that call. Nobody went out to get the ransom money. These parents knew she was already dead.

[@mrjefferies90]

I am personally IDI and always have been, but it's absolutely crazy how much evidence supports RDI or BDI

[@zovalentine7305]

Between forensic experts Marcel Elfers (handwriting analysis) and Peter Hyatt (statement analysis), this case has been solved!

[@vidyawati6680]

How about the DNA of a unknown man in Jonbennet's fingernails?

[@vidyawati6680]

Well the note said group of people.

[@vidyawati6680]

What is so funny? A family has been destroyed by this. Does this sound funny to you? fool.

[@alisonlaing2778]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe "burke" HAS issues ANYWAY ETC ETC. DNA WAS tested LATER ETC and "PROVED" not TO BELONG TO "any" of the "FAMILY" MEMBERS.

[@alisonlaing2778]

CONT. BEING "a bit ODD etc" isn,t a "CRIME"

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Don't be crazy. When you have money you can work with the best to cover this shit up. People get away with shit all the time if you know what you're doing.

[@brysonrowden5322]

No no stop blaming Autism on this. Hes very nervous and awkward. He knows things and he's repressing things too. I believe Burke killed her by mistake he told his parents and instrad of telling the truth they covered it up to at least save what's left of the broken Ramsey family. The scene was all staged. Just a sad story all the way around.

[@do9138]

That's exactly what I think happened, too. The parents reacted out of panic and shock, and then they were stuck with the story. I think the adult Burk is messed up because he remembers doing it. But the lie was so much of the family's culture that he doesn't even consider confessing. Maybe he's half convinced himself that he didn't do it. Really tragic for the whole family.

[@andreadetata4801]

I would have liked to have seen more on this video instead of a short snippet on it. I’m sure the interview was a lot longer....

[@SofiaBerruxSubs]

I know in a point in the show they ask him why he didnt draw his sister and i have to admit that as a kid you miss then and your sad about their deaths but it's like they come to terms that their dead and they dont really think or count them when they have pictures of the family. like as a kid I lost my grandma and well I didnt really think much of her after. not I didnt love her but she was gone and I was a kid so I just accepted it and moved on.

[@z31rider24]

Yup Burke killed her by accident and Parents covered it up. The note and Crime scene were staged. Who would stage a Crime scene and stick around to do a first, and possibly a second draft? No need to be a top PI or experienced Homicide Detective to figure out what happened. in addition: Female Detective that morning at Ramseys home was anticipating a call from the so called Kidnapper who stated in the note that a call would be made to Ramsey's home at a particular time. That particular gets close, arrives and passes. Not John nor Patsy mention anything about it being almost time for kidnapper to call. The Detective was expecting but Parents don't mention one word about the expected Kidnapper's call? Hmmmmmm...

[@gatocat2387]

Although I think you are probably right that Burke is a likely suspect and the parents covered it up, nevertheless I think there is something worth mentioning that people don’t seem to think of. In the note the kidnappers say they will call at10am tomorrow, butPatsy and John seem to be suspiciously disinterested in this. The point is “When is tomorrow?” When Patsy made the 911 call, it was in the early hours, so 10am would have been the same day. So Patsy and John could have thought the kidnappers meant the following day. Besides it was boxing day and the banks could have been shut. I don’t think it changes anything, but I thought it worth pointing out.

[@preteristlab-endtimes5683]

Sorry but there was no information content there at all, no definite comment and not even circumstantial inference - waste of time interview aimed to stir the pot of public interest but fails there also.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Hahaha, so easy to brush it off as just public interest! You can stir the pot anyway YOU like, but there is some serious information here pointing to Burke and it's not even funny. The thing is, he's already paid the ultimate price so I don't care one way or the other. He had to live with this for 20+ something years. They had to go through a lot of trouble to cover things up and that would fuck with anyone. I'd rather just admit to the truth then keep this lie to myself. I don't know how someone could live with it to be honest.

[@AnnaLexi]

*_It’d be hella crazy if Burke over heard on his parents talking about covering up the murder!!_* *_That house is kinda big.. It’s easy to sneak up on someone & eavesdrop!!_* *_What if he heard some stuff?? Plus he was old enough to know what was going on!! I’m just saying.. I could be totally wrong!!_* 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@79bewareofpuppies97]

Thank you for being sober, sane, and logical.

[@martinnilsson5295]

Dr Phil said he dont have any diagnosis. He was nervous who wouldnt be om camera i sure would be even if i had nothing to hide