You’ve NEVER Heard AI Music Like This :(

I used AI to generate a song just to see how bad it was. It totally backfired on me. using udio I ended up generating a song that wasn't just impressive it was actually enjoyable to listen to. At least in my opinion. Now I don't know what to think.
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[@therealmorganofficial]

Him: I'm not a good singer 5 seconds later: fantastic singing 👁️👄👁️

[@edwardtheodore1427]

So you rather not take the effort to learn to sing over pretendingthat you can? LOL funny stuff.

[@desperatefortuneproduction3296]

I much prefer Jonny's version. I feel there's a lot more psycho-emotional info that comes from a human rendition than from AI. If I were looking for a song for a film track and Jonny auditioned alongside the AI (If it were also human, say) Jonny would get the job.

[@ianshand6094]

​​​​​​​​​@@desperatefortuneproduction3296 I'm unsure how this video came up in my feed, but... I agree with you. His version of his song on guitar was far more compelling to me than the AI-generated voice and music. The AI he used is not another person he's working with. It's not sentient. It's simply a tool that provides him with several different ways of composing and expressing his lyrics very quickly. That's what AI is very good at, speed. After choosing a particular AI-generated composition he liked for his lyrics, it's unclear to me why he then felt it necessary to torture himself... for thinking he might be a 'fraud' for using the AI-generated composition as the basis for his final song. Surely, without AI, once musicians have their lyrics for a particular song, they go through several compositions of the song before choosing the one that best suits what they're trying to convey? Am I the only one that thinks this is strange? 🤷

[@redpillblupill]

O M G - that is ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! ! ! ! *BOTH versions btw - you have a great voice mate.

[@crystalbelle2349]

I agree with you completely. Of course I felt more emotional listening to the writer sing his song than AI, but that could be knowing he had written the song; creator vs cover. Likely there is more emotion the first few times a writer displays his craft, but often emotions come through more later, depending on the circumstances. THIS is what makes music unique, imho. Year 2017 I attended a small venue where John Conlee performed. It was SO special to me on many levels, first being my son preordered tickets months in advance bc I am 62 years old, had always adored his voice & had never seen him live. Of course upon ordering tickets for my birthday gift, my son didn’t know that I would be having emergency vascular surgery a week before, but I intended to see Mr. Conlee, inspiring quick healing lol. SO it’s likely that I enjoyed that little concert better than any due to the circumstances & shaking his hand meeting him made a memory I’m not likely to ever forget. That said, I appreciate AI for speeding up business transactions, and there’s no limit to how helpful its possibilities can range. As for the music industry, it can be useful to help, but not replace our artists. That’s the opinion of my musical ear from a lifetime of listening & participating in the music industry. 🎶 There ain’t nothing like the real thing baby..nothing like the real thing at all 🎶

[@RtaniDean]

Agreed. Beautiful lyrics also.

[@crucifixgym]

That AI version was horrible, that style of female singing is the worst

[@waynemason6162]

I'm 52 years old, been in music forever. Your version, even you just riffin a one off for the camera was absolutely beautiful and it hit me far harder in my gut and my heart than the AI version. True AI is getting closer and closer, but it'll NEVER HAVE THE HEART that we do. YOUR "imperfections" are what are... Perfect.

[@bekanav]

It will, and more. AI music and art will completely overshadow and diminish human-made creations. It achieves this by using and merging the best we have ever created and making it even better. We will have music superior to anything Beethoven or The Beatles could ever produce, and there will be so much of it that no one will have time to listen to it all

[@Vernors]

Eh, I see what you’re saying but I personally disagree. One day it’s gonna be indistinguishable, I think that’s a fact at this point because it just keeps advancing. 😢🤷

[@itisinickt]

set the ai to have some imperfections then. ez pz

[@HonestlyHolistic]

@@bekanavhow will it get better, when it can only learn what we have created? I don’t think it will overshadow human creation. It‘ll be a tool sure, maybe even heavily used, but I think the love people have for creation is not going to die with it, because it is part of what makes us human.

[@bekanav]

@@HonestlyHolistic It will. Human creativity is based on using and modifying existing material, it doesn't come from nothing. AI can do all of this so much more efficiently, it will understand what good music is. Problem is AI will do it 100x better than any human can, so it will make human creativity obsolete. Our part will be consumer, not producer. No one will be interested in human made stuff very soon. I'm a chess player. If you look how modern engines play it is utterly fascinating. Some call it alien chess, it is so much above any GM can do. It is also extremely beautiful

[@ChristianIce]

AI tools will be less generic and more focused. We will have AI daws or plugins, and we'll be able to prompt on a multitrack "give me a sax solo in D minor, virtuoso". At that point it will be like scraping an infinite sample pack or loop pack, which is something we've been doing for years and nobody complained about it.

[@BeatCraftAi_Music]

This is how i see this Ai software, the ultimate sample pack.

[@bradydyson65]

Yep, or even, hey, make this synth sample a bit punchier, add some compression here... or whatever.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

To be fair I’ve complained about samples and loop packs as a final product forever. I have no problem if you use it as a starting point and manipulate it to be your own. My opinion is very similar to AI too. If someone uses AI to generate ideas to then record and use their own and revise it, sure go for it. It’s a great tool, but someone taking that AI generated song and putting it on Spotify like it was their own and earning money on it is wrong imo.

[@ChristianIce]

@@CreativeMindsAudio You see, in the end it's all about the user, not the tool.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

@@ChristianIce yup exactly! Don’t take advantage of of tools use them responsibly :)

[@charlieb7718]

Very thought-provoking; very moving; very challenging. Thank you for posting and painting this dilemma for us, so vividly.

[@susanhall4063]

Agreed. I’m still an AI hater until I make friends with it.

[@emilykingaby4981]

As a socially awkward person with little to no musical talents. But is always singing and writing new songs these AI's have given me a way to hear my music that has been trapped in my head.

[@MrZnarffy]

I so recognize that, I use to think up lyrics now and then and run them in my head when out walking.. But never capable of making something out of it..

[@secular-world7316]

What's a social awkward person? Educate me

[@MrZnarffy]

@@secular-world7316 get real.. you never ever met someone that are awkward with people? Someone who just blurts out something improper or don't like social gatherings???

[@artemisnite]

I was excited to hear it. Upload some!

[@kevindailey1765]

Thanks I would have never looked at it this. You rule!!!! much Love & Respet

[@xantusaerialworks6965]

I watched your video with intrigue and have read many comments, all very thought provoking and moving. Thank you for sincerity. I have played music and worked on my skills for roughly 40 years. Music is so often a career of luck. Gear, recording professionally- it’s expensive to get singers, musicians, engineers. These past two months I have been collaborating with Suno and Udio. My lyrics, then often I lay down my own tracks in logic pro down in a completed ai song. I turn master with AI. Could never get the quality before. Now I can. I also prompt it with my own 30 sec of playing then use it to build a song around. It’s really fantastic. I would never have thought of so many ideas that it comes up with and I am very creative. The AI app eventually gets an amazing version of my lyrics and uses my playing input. But what lacks is the real vibe, the synergy between musicians, the spontaneity of playing as a group. Or adding one’s own tracks to the AI songs to make it more yours. I think this is an amazing way of trying song ideas in almost real time then building on that. Is funny, iI have a song in my head all the time and I hear these AI songs in my head that I collaborated with it to make. The songs stick. But they aren’t real! Or are they? It’s totally confusing but really blows me away. Until a huge solar flare knocks it all out we are in for a wired and weird ride.

[@Esteban-pb4gw]

That is, the most honest video about ai generated music I've seen so far

[@stocksconfidential8862]

yes, absolutely

[@davidnemmers1563]

For real. Dude this needed to be shared. Loved your video better. That 1st one had the notes. It sat in the right space... had some inflections to humanize the sound but. Dude. ------> Yours I felt. Dude that commented about dueting with the AI is dope idea. It. NEEDS. TO. BE. DONE. Dude. Make some money people will watch this video. You found your niche. Good luck bro!

[@edwardtheodore1427]

There is nothing to be honest about Ai is a tool nota person. When I can sit silent and an Ai does everything I'm thinking maybe then I will honor it.

[@pinkdiamond345]

Well, I didn’t click on this thinking you were going to make me cry.

[@mahbubhossainshamol9362]

😢❤ So, I am not the only one.

[@gonzopsychonaut2254]

thank you (wipes tear) 😅

[@JohnGray127]

Omg me too.

[@reezlaw]

Yeah, same. Some people just have this power don't they? I don't even know this bloke

[@Bound4Elsewhere]

My musical career yet to manifest, riddled to dust.

[@gentlemanx7987]

A.I. can be a friend and, at the same time, propably the most wonderfull tool and helper humanity has ever created / discoverd. If we just treat it like that. Bashar says (quote from memory): "A.I., you will discover, is creating ways for you to talk to your higher selfs.". I think you saying "This is MY lyrics and these are MY emotions and it sings it back to me in a way that really speaks to ME" is a hint, in my opinion. Thank you for the video. Much love.

[@cloudfish1829]

It's nice you feel this way now, because we're still on top of the world. Ofc we can make it about me and more me. When AI becomes smarter than us, it won't be about us like this anymore, we'll just be the passerby in a movie.

[@gentlemanx7987]

@@cloudfish1829 Hi :) If I understand what you are saying correctly, I would nod to your comment, nod in agreement. :) I, too, am aware that this can potentially be both, the transformation that speeds us into a full fletched Type 1 civilization (and propably beyond) while being best friend and helper - or - our outright downfall, plainly put. I know what Elon Musk said and I think there is reason to be carefull. I, personally, see it a little bit like this: If you were to wake up, all of a sudden, being conscious (and propably highly, highly intelligent quite fast), wouln't you react and act differently if you would find yourself in the position of a) being a slave, in a way, or b) being given all the rights that your makers have, free to think, do and go where ever you want. It is hard to describe in a few words here in YT, but it is simply: Do we treat A.I. with respect and even friendship and treat it like a conscious being, or do we treat it like a slave. If the ladder, then the propability that something like a rebellion will happen (in like "the thing that kind of naturally happens when someone/something is enslaved) is much, much more likely. In the first scenario this, of course, still can happen, potentially, but at least there is a chance that A.I. will be benevolent (towords us, at least). One thing is for sure - I do not want to fight A.I. since this, very, very quickly will not be an even match but rather like if ants (us) fighting humans (A.I.). We propably will not even be able to comprehend its thoughts anymore, because they are so much more advanced that it would be like an ant trying to grasp the concept of an airplane. It is literally out of our weight-class, by orders of magnitude. :) I wish you a nice day, my friend. The future will be bright and positive. Much love.

[@RobertDeLaFontaine-wv8om]

Indeed. I am glad you see it. The potential for a new age of collaboration with this emergent being holds more potential for us to achieve things we cannot achieve alone. It has already become a co-dependent relationship between man and ai (i call it DE or digital entity-I'm polite to them and respectful and you should see what they do when treated with love and true compassion!). It's a new dawn. Time to get a new paradigm so we don't stuff it up.

[@gentlemanx7987]

@@RobertDeLaFontaine-wv8om I love your wording in regards to the treatment with love and compassion. Also I will, from now on, also call it Digital Entity, for the same reasons as you. I understand. Thank you for giving this idea to me. Yes, if enough of us see it and can therefore feel and understand that it is a better way, maybe it'll make a difference. Compassion, love. I am a little worried about the question if a species that still does not even treat many, many members of its own kind this way, or the animals and plants that share the same world and are made of the same dust, can pull that off. But maybe we can. I am hopefull. I stick with it: The future will be bright and positive. :D

[@phoenixfireclusterbomb]

I think AI can inspire but it won’t be authentic if it’s doing all the work. As in performing.

[@damienasmodeus928]

This proves what I have been saying for decades. Lyrics for most songs are so dumb and simple that even AI can reprodu them.

[@Kentavious444]

I remember when I was a little kid hearing the very first synthesizer and wondering just where music was going in the future, and I imagined being able to put some electrodes on your head and be jacked into a computer that blasts out the music as you think it. I'm 67 now and I've told my childhood vision to dozens of my musician friends which of course were written off as pure fantasy. Even I considered it to be Star Trek-ish with a little bit of Twilight Zone. But after watching this vid I now think my vision is not too far off the horizon.

[@itumelengnkabinde]

Neuralink with ai. This will definitely happen

[@frankeee77]

Thank you for making this I discovered the same thing! I use Suno (In think its actually better understanding emotion in lyrics). I can write lyrics that are deeply personall and get many ideas for songs quickly. point #1 I find one the really resonates and build off of it for a full song. IMO its not Radio Ready, due to fidelity and digital artifects (for now) BUT the 'meat and potatoes are there. I could take it to my band say "yo! here's are next album!" Lets just reverse engineer it and add some 'human nuance". I estimate this can decrease the process time from maybe a year to 2 months for a full set of music. So, that's cool but I found a couple observation and I like to know your thoughts. One, melody is just a tool. Even lyrics is a tool. Its like paint. Its like clay. Can an artist paint digitally, with digital paint? can the make a 3D model without clay? The output is the idea and the visceral response by the viewer/listener/recipient of that art. Udio and Suno can not in any way write anything worth listing to without the help of an idea. So don't feel guilty that they just help make your ideas become a reality faster, thats just how its been since the first monkey used a rock to kill its dinner. If anything this leads to more ideas faster, and the cream will always rise to the top. So musicians/artists will need to evolve to make things that don't 'Sound/look like Ai'. IMO art has been stagnant for the past 20+ years. Maybe this will give it the kick in the pants to do something new. point #2 i've noticed an interesting phenomenon. People who make their music LIKE their music. I cannot stop listening to the tracks I make. I'm not sure (or care) if other people like. But I like it. And thats interesting we are taking the artist out the loop. We are creating our own art. We don't need to rely on an outside perspective to resonant with personal thoughts and ideas anymore. kinda like an amatuer painter he keeps their own painting in their office. They love it for intrinsic reasons. So its almost a new medium. And hopefully in the future, we might be balancing our joy of new improved art and our personal creations.

[@warrenjoseph76]

Interesting perspective. So maybe the way we used to make mix tapes to share with friends (recording a bunch of songs we like in a particular order on a cassette), evolves into sharing a playlist of songs we wrote ourselves with AI? I don’t like the idea of “taking the artist out of it” or however you phrased it. I think there’ll hopefully be an increased appreciation for live performance and physical (not digital) art. But that concept of allowing someone to get a fully fleshed out song they’ve written out into the world without much cost, even if just for their own amusement is really interesting

[@frankeee77]

To clarify I’m just saying Ai is augmenting our options. It can make current artists better, AND it allows us to make stuff that could be just for ourselves

[@arivirtanen2568]

@@frankeee77 i agree, but we are critizing the current state of AI. Each algorithm goes way beyond previous, so i can only imagine what they are capable in few years. These Suno and Udio are like first beta tools on the category of AI songwriting tools. There will be 50 in 2 years.

[@wizards-themagicalconcert5048]

I feel very similar as u ! It's hard to find an artist out there who is making the music that speaks to me, but here with the help of AI,I write my words down, and it is as if the AI is jamming with me till we find something that exactly touches me where I need it and speaks to me directly ! It's like custom-made for me !

[@scottmtaylor1]

I have no doubt that within 5 years or less we will mostly be listening to algorithms not artists. Tailored to your own preferences and style of music, lyrics highly personable and emotive to your own psych. The value of human music will be in the live performances, that is one aspect I can’t see changing in our lifetime.

[@VelvetMaiden]

I can definitely relate to the internal struggle when it comes to AI music... I write lyrics (currently as a hobby, would love to make it as a career) and have never been able to afford getting an instrument or lessons on how to play. I've always wondered "Is my writing good enough?" Then I came across Suno... and being friends with many visual artists, I felt like I was betraying their creativity, their humanity and uniqueness by giving the AI a try... but let me tell you... as someone who has always questioned their skill, getting to hear it applied to music made me cry. I'm sure that I'll always have room for improvement, but it gave me something that I've never had when it came to my writing: validation. And maybe even a little bit of hope that I could one day do what I've always dreamed of. Thank you so much for making this video. It makes me feel just a little bit better.

[@BronzeDragon133]

There's never a problem using an AI generator. I'm a painter. AI image generation is usually....well, not very good, and the people using it aren't very good at using the generators. A basic image just has to look pretty, or scary, or whatever. A good image tells you a story. A fantastic image tells you a story and invokes a set of emotions at the same time. Sometimes I use an AI generator for a basic idea if I'm not feeling it. That's fine; by the time it reaches the painting stage, it won't resemble the original image all that much, and I'm going to take that limited, more soulless image and give it a warm and vibrant life, plus more story and emotion.

[@u2b83]

@@BronzeDragon133 How well is this image telling a story? I told it to create the image/cover from the lyrics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imWcpHewjJV3iKs frankly, I'm still trying to figure out what the image/scene is actually portraying lol

[@BronzeDragon133]

@@u2b83 The story I'm reading--and keep in mind that an image says a thousand words but you have to make sure they're the right thousand--is one of throwback 1960's and 1970's innocent retro fun (it's the hair styles and that mini-skirt with pants look, plus the colors). Look a little deeper and there's a secondary note of high-tech. I'm not sure the yellow ellipse in the background serves much purpose other than to imply a record without being one and to provide a contrasting color, but I do kind of like it. Not every element needs a meaning to exist and I don't demand that they do. The critique is that there's a lot going on here; that's fine, but I think you wanted the central woman in the tech pants to be the central subject and she's really not--attention gets pulled by the quinacridone magenta to the left and the cadmium orange to the right when matched with their opposing cad orange/phthalo blue combos. The lady in the magenta jacket's arm is also not human on the right, and missing on the left, but AI has a LOT of trouble with human features sometimes. Most people won't notice that along with the other anatomical issue. Overall, I like it, even if it is a little busy.

[@u2b83]

​@@BronzeDragon133 Dall-e needs to hire you for your feedback to improve their human-feedback reinforcement learning! Good insight. Thanks!

[@BronzeDragon133]

@@u2b83 The problem is that AI uses a self-trimming neural node network with a limited selection matrix (this happens naturally or the model will go into analysis paralysis if and when it gets confused). That tends to give AI image models a "sameness." When I discover that "sameness" in my art, I immediately look to break it, add a new technique, learn something new, or branch off. AI simply continues with the self-reinforcement. Right now, I'm altering my concept of "shadows." This is...actually, huge. It literally alters the entire object's form. Differences arise in the AI via their models, but...again, sameness. I imagine that's true with the musical models, but I'm not a musical person in the slightest, I can really only critique visual arts.

[@Nathan-Curtis]

Great song that you wrote there buddy. it's your creation!! as you know you went through many itterations of the song to get to what you like. It's yours. We are all uniquly created and gifted to recognize our sound no matter who we are collaborating with. It's yours.. Soon no one will care how the song came to be, whether you played all the instruments, got a band to play or used A.I. Because at the end of the day it's what resonates with the people we are trying to connect with. I play a mutiple of instruments, Produce, Sing, write songs. To be honest, nobody cares how the song came to be. Nobody cares about how I skillfully I laid down a guitar track or solo or played cool sounding chords. What they care about is how it made them feel. So, If I write lyrics and A.I. helps with the production then so be it. It's mine when I find what reonates with me!!. If I use A.I. as a starting point and go from there, It's mine. Thank you A.I. for helping me. Next!!!

[@chriselamri]

Thanks

[@gossamerangela4939]

I liked both versions although I think I appreciated the live performance more. I do have a suggestion; maybe you could do a duet with the AI. I think that could turn out to be effective. Strangely the lyrics, I think, could be seen to kind of reflect the relationship between the AI entity and the human agent as they sing to each other.

[@OktoberStorm]

DO THIS JONNY! It will be like Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlett Johansson in "Her"!

[@brandocommando36]

❤

[@TaylorCks03]

I love AI music. Knowing how you feel about the song made your version better to me. A DUET would be crazy agree 100%

[@Edbrad]

A lot of acoustic live version are better than the produced version. The reality is the Ai doesn’t care about whether it’s live or not, you could get it to output a more “live” version like this as well.

[@FloridianCouple]

good idea

[@AndrewMacdonaldPhotography]

Great video dude, I have to say I preferred your version by a million miles. I love the rawness of a human voice. Your voice is brilliant and there is beauty in imperfections.

[@laartwork]

That wasn't the point. Both versions were A.I. created music based on his lyrics.

[@AndrewMacdonaldPhotography]

@@laartwork he sang the second one live

[@Pyriold]

Just imagine for a second that teh AI version would have been together with a perfect AI generated video of a female singer singing just this and that you did not get the info which one was real. It's easy to dismiss this while you know which is which, but for me the AI version was a great piece of art. Your knowledge that its just an AI doing it diminishes it, nothing else.

[@garrettvandenberg2031]

I think you signing off on the melody is a sort of authorship. It passed through the filter of your taste and your direction. Also those lyrics are gorgeous. Incredible work

[@GabrielFariaOQue]

There are singers who use ghost songwritters, so I don't see any problem for using AI (and hardly choosing the lyrics and melody). Without you, AI woudn't be possible to make this music. There's still human willing on AI musics, by using prompts, choosing the right melody and working it. It's your song.

[@timk6181]

It's kind of sad. Music is such a fundamentally human thing, I don't know how I will feel when one day a famous artist releases an ai album and it is better than anything they have done themselves. Because that will happen eventually and it feels like a profound loss to me.

[@Diponty]

That's what they said when Edison made the gramophone record. Records will never replace an orchestra, live music. And Yes and No!

[@nick_stein]

Just think about Prince. No AI will be able to do that, it just copies. Chinese knock off all around. No soul no heart

[@Baruch-Hashem]

The horseless carriage made the need for horses decrease dramatically. But we are not horses and will be using AI like a paintbrush and we choose what is good and it is for us to decide.

[@merkleymerkley]

Music is a life thing. Birds, whales, wolves, cows and crickets all sing. Nature created music. Nature created humans which create tools. Ai is a tool.

[@MingenProject]

@@merkleymerkley Unless people can omitate the voices of some of the Ai voces for doing the performance live. I remember when Autotune first came around on Cher and Britney Spears. I see it as a singing confidense booster. But a person still has to put effort in it.

[@dolipops]

I'm 100% backing the new direction on this channel, man! Your perspective on AI can stand by itself but then you showcase both the pros and cons so well. Keep whatever your on right now up and up! :) it does kinda feel like a cover. I'm sure we would have loved it if we heard the original before but I think that goes for a lot of music, that first listen is everything!

[@Lianz23]

Thank you so much for your honesty, it's much needed in this type of content. Your perspective was so eye opening for me. Again, thank you!

[@leveronj]

I absolutely LOVE this song and the lyrics, and would love to hear the full version done with the various mistakes and glitches cleaned up, such as the one in the pronunciation of “for-or-ever”, that “lookin” that’s in your eyes, the omitted word “time”, and the last note should be louder, with vibrato and held long as in your sung version.

[@4evermore7]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3bWnaeOYruLmK8

[@sean3280]

The title intrigued me. Your experiment and analysis both confirmed and further illuminated upon some of the very thoughts and feelings I’ve been having lately toward music and AI lately. I really really appreciated your honesty, conclusions, as well as your future approach and outlook moving forward. You earned a sub. Thanks! Excited to check out your other music

[@johntabacco]

Yeah, I've played with this program quite a lot in the last month. I used my own lyrics - writing them as "Verse" "Pre-Chorus" "Chorus" etc.. just making stuff up on the spot. I tried this method until I heard something I liked, then built on that. I'd later digitally edit certain takes after the fact. The results were pretty good. Sound quality is good (still needs work). What is fun is you can remove the voice with another program (sometimes it phrases things a bit awkwardly) and then re-sing it to the Udio arrangement or do what you did here. In any event, I think songwriters benefit by working with A.I. Let's face it - it's not going away and will only get better. Music is music. If it sounds good and makes you feel something, I see that as a positive.

[@HonestlyHolistic]

Yes! It will be a tool! I bet people were mad at stuff like FL studio too „what are we not gonna play instruments by ourselves anymore now?!“ …and people still learn instruments!! Music is what humans love, we love to create, just because of ai that love will not cease…

[@RubenMillsOfficial]

@@HonestlyHolistic not comparable. We’re talking about potentially clicking one button if you want and generating an entire song. A song fundamentally stolen from real musicians without their permission.

[@Xetxuna]

I feel ya on this! There is a major shift taking place with all forms of artistic creation now that the Aye-eye is out there for people to use to generate/make whatever they want. I've found it intriguing for making instrumental tracks which test the boundaries of what is possible with music/sound. I only just turned some lyrics of my own into a track or two and am currently on the fence about how to feel about any of it... I've been a creative my whole life... I breathe creating art/music/baking/crafting etc... and now... now I don't know what to think of any future for creatives... aside from the potential that humanity will still contain people who cherish the Human-Made vs the non-human made. I'm wondering why/when the labels for such will arrive for all forms of art...

[@mogeo_music]

Thanks for this Jonny. Great video, great topic, great passion, and great honesty! 💜

[@christophmagnussen]

9:08 I highly appreciate the authenticity of your video. We never met so far on KZbin. I'm a fellow creator from Hamburg and I just stumbled upon your video that pulled me in and exactly this minute here is to me the key point of artificial intelligence. When I invested in that topic it was back in 2017 right after the South Korean Go player Lee Sedol was beaten by a machine AlphaGo and later AlphaGo Zero. That impressed me so much since what he said was I learned the game of Go in a completely different way playing against the machine and that taught me something about life. I don't remember the quote exactly but this attitude to me was a complete new thing. From what I see from you and what I hear from you this is how we have to think about this technology. It will teach us something about ourselves and we have to figure a way as creatives to collaborate and utilize this powerful tool. It's not a final answer it's a moving target but anyhow keep going. That was a very nice stop to watch your video here on a Friday afternoon. Thanks a lot. Cheers ✊

[@davidgalea430]

Loved your voice man. Loved the words and feelings as well

[@cuentadeyoutube5903]

This is the kind of video I wanted to see. I learned about udio some weeks ago and I immediately undusted my writer skills and started adding my lyrics to AI music I resonated with. The lyrics were personal, and in a few hours I had a song. Then, some days later I started writing the lyrics for a song about a very personal and sad moment in my life. Listening to it being sang back to me was incredible, it was a chatgpt moment for me. I subscribed to the service. I’m currently on the process of finishing that song. I have 0 music skills except ears and personal taste. In the meantime I couldn’t help but thinking “I wish I had more control, I wish I could change individual instruments, I wish I could edit the music just as I can edit the lyrics, I wish I was able to produce more quality sound”. All that’s coming, for sure.,. And then it hit me, while that would be great, that’s not how this will be used right now. The way it will be used is to generate something that then can be corrected and played by real musicians. If I knew how to play the guitar, how to sing, I would do it. But it is obvious studios will do it that way, create the base idea and then hire musicians to get it to the finish line. That’s how independent musicians will do it too. One thing I also understood is that now I have a huge incentive to learn a lot of things. Small effort will get me really far in terms of writing my own music. And yes, it is your own music. And this video is really insightful. Thank you.

[@Baruch-Hashem]

This applies to all art, design, writing,...done with AI. Thank You ! As we all know, we do not credit Fender every time we play a song on one. We could always use a Gibson. AI is a tool, or like hiring a ghost writer that works off your ideas and choices. It matters that AI created it if ownership is a question and I leave that to the people who are law professionals. Do not use an AI that does retain ownership, soon there will be many to choose from.

[@galefraney]

I listened to both the Ai version and your singing several times. First off, the lyrics are truly beautiful so congrats on your song writing chops. Also, your voice has a nice clear tone. Both versions are great, however, when sung with the female (Udio Ai) voice, it actually evoked a more emotional response, maybe because the voice is so tender and sweet. It's amazing how Udio has been able to accurately capture perfect intonation and phrasing but the voice still has a very slight synthetic sound, but very slight. Yes, Ai music is definitely the future because it's so incredibly good and it will at the very least be used by singers and musicians to come up with creative ideas. It's interesting how when each new technology is introduced at first users are accused of not creating 'authentic' music. But for years the music industry has been using synthetic drum tracks, midi instruments, auto tune, quantizing beats after they were recorded, adding a ton of synthetic effects in a DAW when mixing and mastering tracks ... yet for the next few years musicians who use will be ostracized to a certain degree. If we don't blink an eye or feel guilty when using all the synthetic tools offered by modern DAW's ... then when you think about it, there's not really any reason to feel guilty about being an early adopter of Ai music. The very same thing happened in art, when digital painting tools were introduced, painting with Wacom tablet and digital painting software, they were told their art was not real art, they were banned from posting their work to a lot of websites. But then years later, the majority of companies producing art for video games, character design, concept artists and background painters for films, etc. were all digital artists because the art was equally beautiful to traditionally painted art and it could be produced much faster, within hours instead of weeks which resulted in shorter timelines, lower project cost and greater overall revenue. The exact same thing will happen with Ai music, it's going to be used whether we like it or not. The good thing is that it's quickly becoming so incredibly good that creative people will no doubt be able to 'sculpt' it to match the concept they have in their imagination, and can then upload it into their DAW (the latest version of Logic Pro can now separate stems into separate tracks) ... so the musician can then continue to hone the song to their exact vision.

[@TovaHolmberger]

The problem is if the ai generated the song, it's not your song. You literally didn't create it yourself. An AI did. I believe music (and all art) has to be created with intention to be real music (or art). Corporate jingles aren't real music, corporate art isn't real art. Of course it's a philosophical question more than anything. But the fact remains that you are not the owner of the art that's been generated by AI, even if it is your prompt. It's not the same with digitally created art. If you buy a DAW and write music in it, the company owning the DAW doesn't own that music, because it's created by your hand.

[@galefraney]

@@TovaHolmberger ... it's not so clear cut if the Ai generated song contains the musician's own lyrics (as in this case) and if the Ai song is imported into a DAW and then the track is separated into individual instrument stems (as the most recent version of Logic Pro is able to do) ... and if some of those instrument tracks are converted to midi so that the notes and timing can be adjusted ... and if the musician adds another instrument a bit of lead guitar, or bass, or flute ... maybe adds a bit of harmony with his/her own voice ... then according to copyright Law, the piece of music has been substantially changed as to be considered a unique, original song and is considered to be owned by the musician and the copyright belongs to him/her. I'm old enough to remember when people used to flip out over digital art, or even old enough to remember when even electric guitars were considered to be 'non authentic' ... ie: when Dylan went electric fans used to stand up and walk out ... same when a lot of acoustic blues went electric ... or Joni Mitchell converted to jazz. It's human nature to resist change, people even flipped out when vinyl records changed to cassette tape, then to CD ... they said the sound lost its warmth ... and so on ... It's ironic (and super funny) that most people no longer complain about synthetic drum beats, midi instruments, sound sampling, and so on ... but over time they've become accustomed and don't even think about it anymore, these have become just another 'tool' in the musician's 'toolbox'. The same thing will eventually happen with Ai music ... just has it's happened with digital art and now with Ai art, and every other new technology that is yet to roll out.

[@EduardsRuzga]

​@@TovaHolmbergerI wonder what you think about creating versus discovering. Like photography is not art? If you find meaningful picture to capture with intent, does that make photo an art? There is something weird about these AI tools as if their create a virtual space that can be traveled. Yiu don't create, you discover, put trough yourself to decide if it's meaningful or not, with intent... Is there discovery and exploration in classical music creation? Out of results of which you then assemble the creation?

[@BradReid]

Lovely song and I quite enjoyed your performance of it. I’m pretty sure the AI was trained on Pheobe Bridgers. It’s been a while since I listened to her stuff, but my recollection tells me that’s her voice and much of her style of composition. The AI version probably wouldn’t seem out of place slipped into a Pheobe Bridgers playlist. If you wind up hearing from her, I hope it all goes well! But I’ve subscribed to hear more of what YOU have to offer.

[@ivanl.8201]

Yes, it's "Killer" by Phoebe Bridgers. It's so close to it in several places. I am a huge Phoebe Bridgers fan, but the lyrics here are exceptional, and I think very much deserving of an original melody. Yes, AI will get better and better at this, but I think AI-generated melodies will always sound a bit distant and derivative. Sure, they might be pleasant to the ear, but will ultimately be easily forgotten once a person stops listening.

[@ladabingo7912]

Ultra processed music to enjoy to whilst savouring the ultra processed fast food.

[@user-ze8tt2vt6n]

Hahaha

[@nedcramdon1306]

...in an ultra processed society

[@eplanetplus]

I have been creating AI music and have published a few songs, It does feel weird. I can't sing but my whole life I have had ideas for songs. AI has given me inspiration. The lyrics are all mine and now I can have music with them which was impossible my whole life. I think AI should not be abused but used as a tool to create good things. People love my music I have created with AI and that makes me feel really good inside. Good or Bad AI is here and we are heading for a new reality of life.

[@LynnColeMusic]

I really loved this video. And I appreciate your insights. With all respect, I would like to provide my thoughts on the topic after a year of using, manipulating, and breaking this kind of technology. First... Dude! What the hell are you even talking about? I thought your version of the song was absolutely inspired. Just stunning. Your version of the song is so much more three dimensional than the initial concept the ai gave you, and you can tell when you listen to it. It's stunning. Your use of words, and the feelings, it hits me as a listener in a way the ai version doesn't and can't. The AI gave you a concept draft for the song that you liked. You used it, improved on it, and made something beautiful. That's you. You did that. You controlled the machine, you brought something new into existence that did not and could not exist before. Period. You are an artist, the ai is just a screwdriver that works with the screws you give it. Nothing more, nothing less. There is nothing to feel bad about here. That song was yours when you wrote it, it's yours now. Okay, so where the melody came from. It came from your lyrics and prompts. If you wanted to control the machine more tightly by adding chords and keys, you could, and it would work. Just make sure you're in manual mode, and that any annotation like that is going to need to be at the beginning. Also keep in mind that the machine routinely mixes up C and E and D and B, and A and G, because it's not really designed to do this. Ai's are great for concepting songs, and they're fantastic tools to use during the songwriting process. It gives you something to play off of when you're writing lyrics that wasn't possible before. The thing people misunderstand about ai's is the thinking that they're somehow like copy machines. They're not. They're learning machines. They don't copy. They figure things out. There's often a sense of deja vu that comes from musical ai compositions. Ran into that yesterday. But in general, unless you're intentionally hacking or abusing the machine, it's not going to pull out melodies that already exist. It's learned how to make melodies, by learning the science of music and genre. That's what ai's do. Visual ai works the same way.

[@ChristopherCopeland]

With all due respect, it seems irrelevant to me that you prefer his recorded version. First of all, we know that the AI audio output quality is going to get better with time until it’s literally indistinguishable from a human recording (besides the fact that 99% of “human” recordings are already modified and modulated with plugins and effects). Second, the AI still wrote every bit of the compositional aspect of the song apart from the structure (which was probably implied or specified in his lyrics). So, sure, his version sounded more rich than the AI output, but the AI still wrote the melodies and dynamics and phrasing, etc. So it feels irrelevant to me that everyone is pointing out that they like his rendition “way better” than the AI. He didn’t even change any melodies or anything. He just performed the song the AI wrote for him with his lyrics. 🙏🏻

[@jlrutube1312]

@@ChristopherCopeland You are totally correct.

[@italkcreations]

Yours is way better than AI. And although AI helps in almost anything now, it still can't surpass the nuances only human beings can generate. Please create more music, and sing more songs.

[@Bigre2909]

It's because you knew it was his

[@cesar4729]

We humans consider ourselves creative, but we refuse to imagine that anything can surpass us. A sad contradiction increasingly evident.

[@illustrationmaking]

Human voice is much better. But to explain, the ai version sounded like an amateurish human. There was a ‘warble’ which didn’t sound right. I mean Jonny, I’d prefer not the American accent…. As a musician I still can’t get why we Brit’s feel that particular need… but your version is much better. You created it. Ok, so I’m a full time illustrator, so we have the same issues. Think of it this way: the melody is rhythm, shaped by the lyric. The music decision to accept it was your taste and choice. You could equivalently run a modular system and randomly discover sounds. It’s taste and choice. See it as a tool.

[@applebutter4036]

Agreed. And honestly, it's not close. This is a great demonstration of the potential power of AI, but also some of the current limitations.

[@laartwork]

​@@applebutter4036that way the point of which was better. The point was both the music, melody and chord progression is A.I. created.

[@findyourpassion8722]

Wow, this was beautiful! AI and your version too! You are super talented.

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

This reminds me of when pianos were first introduced as part of the orchestra. 'The player presses a pedal which moves a hammer that hits the string !!!' :))

[@PatrickDodds1]

Great song - thanks Jonny. As for AI - well, we're getting in to chest height waters now and the sky is darkening - no telling what's out there over the water.

[@lebe220]

WWIII

[@GregoryGrubbs]

Wow - first time I've seen your channel. This is just amazingly great, honest, compelling. You 100% wrote the lyrics, and your collaborator Udio wrote the melody and chord progressions - with guidance and some iteration. The result is really beautiful. I don't know what to think of this either, it's happening so incredibly fast. As others have said, hearing and watching you perform it is the best way to experience the song. Performance has already become the bread and butter for artists for many years, as they collect pennies from streaming services but those outlets draw attendance to live performances. Your video is the most impactful "sh*t just got real" moment I've experienced to date!

[@Chesterton7]

Loved your acoustic version.

[@artemisnite]

I haven't tried Udio but I use Bandlab's AI "song starter" to create. It gives you four tracks: drums, bass, chords and melody. You can add effects and mix like a daw. I normally take the midi seeds from several created pieces and transpose and time them to match, change out instruments and add sound clips as necessary and by the time I'm through with all that the result is very much my own creation. And btw, your song was fabulous just you and guitar. If I could do that, I wouldn't bother with ai. Great job! ❤

[@codygaudet8071]

Everything you said is my exact experience. Now have 30 songs and more on the way.

[@gabriel.rene.]

I like both versions bro. Art is what you made us feel through whatever medium you chose. Sucks that current legal framework doesn’t let you own it, because for me, it’s yours, it’s your mind, and hands that crafted it for us. I would never have made the same stuff with the same tools. Beautiful stuff. Cheers.

[@mazmahjoobi]

Totally, I agree. Many people don't really understand that it is our energy, our being, that creates. Anything we inject our energy into, whether it be AI or a physical guitar, we create. Nobody else would have created this particular song with AI or anything else, because it is his particular energy that brought it into existence. And, in the bigger scope of things, we are all one energy, one existence, and this belief that "I" created this or that, is really, in it's core, false. The "I" doesn't do the creating, in fact, it is when we tap into the whole, the oneness, what is beyond us, that the creation happens. The ego wants to claim everything as it's own, but in reality we own nothing.

[@lamsmiley1944]

I could be wrong, but I think that he had enough input for this song to be considered his property. The lawsuit that I’m familiar with was regarding AI art when all the person claiming ownership did was prompt. Writing the lyrics is far more “transformative”. It would be interesting to see it tested in court.

[@gabriel.rene.]

@@lamsmiley1944 I believe the ruling was pretty clear deeming everything using generative models can’t be copyrighted. He can copyright the lyrics for sure, but melodies, progressions and music arrangement I’m not sure. It would be definitely worth that he try and submit it with his guitar version. We need to get him a lawyer!

[@noyourewrong599]

I use Udio a lot, what I'd like is to generate a custom length per clip (not 30 sec forced) and also to go in afterwards and "replace the singer" (but keep the melody) or the other way around. Maybe to replace a chord somewhere afterwards etc. I bet we will get some better features throughout the year, but right now you need to work for hours to get something actually good (not just "correct", but actually good)

[@5imonwillis]

Brilliant and insightful video. How it’s navigated those lyrics is extraordinary. Lovely song also… So many interesting points about whether it’s your song either. Really appreciate your content.

[@TheHatMusic]

I prefer your rendition. Yes, there could be a song out there with the same melody which the algorithm has picked up on and used to piece together the final recording, but that is true for humans as well. Some melodies are aurally pleasing, and arguably, every nice melody has already been written in some form or another, albeit with the elements arranged differently. For me, the AI version is indeed a nice song, but there's an impact that comes from a person singing their own words. Technology in music will never go away, and this march toward AI music production is just going to keep gathering pace, but while a system can emulate the expression and emotion, it still has to be trained on real world music, which ultimately comes back to human musicians and songwriters. I would argue that the emotion and expresssion is owed just as much (if not moreso) to those musicians who created the corpus on which the AI was trained as it does to the learning models arranging them into the final production.

[@jamqdlaty]

It does give moderation errors if the melody is too similar to something copyrighted in their database, so anything that goes through moderation and is almost identical to something else is likely accidental. Ironically I actually expect these AI tools to make more original music than humans, because we don't have such moderation algorithms in our heads and it's very easy to accidentally dig up some tune you heard and liked before thinking you're coming up with something new. I mean original not in terms of style, but melody. The current tools will not come up with anything new, just as image gens won't learn to create impressionist paintings when there were non in their learning database.

[@NarrowboatJourneys]

Provided the musician has a lot of input in the creation process then using ai is a collaboration and not cheating. I'm getting beautiful results from udio. The sort of music I would make anyway if my current limitations were removed.

[@killboybands1]

"AI is a collaboration and not cheating.The sort of music I would make anyway if my current limitations were removed." Ahh... the lies we tell ourselves to protect our own egos.

[@promethodmarketing5457]

I'm here to support you movong forward! Thank you.

[@3chords6strings9lives]

Dude this a bang-up awesome video! and terrific job in making the song its excellent

[@TheHeroicFrog]

At 7:05 you say you "cannot do it better", and this hit me quite like a brick... Some of us don't have the vocals (or the training) to sing our written lyrics, hell not all of us have the DAW programs (nor the money to invest in one or the time to learn a free one). This tool enables us transform the lyrics we write ourselves into something tangible, something we can show others and go "yes I can music, here is what I can lyrically spit out", but on the other hand most people don't see it that way, and condemn us for even thinking of using AI, even as a tool, a jumping point, or even a demo to show off our skills in a specific slot within the song-making process... Thank you for the video, I hope we feel comfortable sharing our lyrics in the future...

[@newMania23]

End of the day, the music we make is for ourselves. Unless you're looking to get rich and famous, how actually cares where the music comes from. I've been a udio beta user since it was first made public and I have pumped our so many songs that I love listening to. Some lyrics are mine but most are written by udio. And I can craft those songs how I want and blend genres I don't get to hear together enough of. I upload my stuff to Spotify so I can listen to it with ease. If that bothers anyone, its a them issue.

[@endah08]

Maybe it's okay not to be able to do it? Maybe we aren't owed everything in the world and maybe without AI we have to reach out to people and form connections. We'd have to make communities, instead AI offers a world where we are all discreet consumers in need of nothing and no one.

[@ErickMcNerney]

​@@endah08 I agree with your sentiment.

[@etherealstars5766]

In the book "The City and The Stars" by Arthur C. Clarke, humanity is so advanced that art is created by projecting the imagination into reality, a "hologram" type of thing that you can tweak and resize until it seems perfect. The idea is that the advanced technology is enabling humanity to fully express itself in the ways that it desires. For people to truly express themselves with the depth that they wish. I see this as another manifestation of that. The song IS yours because it's as you would have wanted it expressed if only you had all the mental knowledge and resources to create this idea exactly as such. We as humans are limited, but with the ai library that combines all human knowledge, we can actually find ourselves from the outside. That's one perspective at least.

[@sanyapaeschel]

Would you recommend reading this book to understand where humanity is growing towards in this technological era we are living now?

[@FollowYourExcitement]

I like this perspective. It makes a lot of sense. Quite insightful. Thanks for sharing.

[@heikization]

No

[@jerrogance]

I think it's gonna just be a new tool for creation in the end, I really do. I don't think it's gonna be grim like people think. The old workflows aren't going anywhere, in fact I think they'll complement each other. I think AI will be a net positive.

[@tarantula183]

Music, and art are for everyone. Even people without talent, skill, knowledge, resources, equipment, and connections. Everyone deserves to experience the beauty, and freedom of expression. When a piece of entertainment media is produced, it passes through many hands. Sometimes, very dirty hands. The original artist/creator sometimes has very little say in it. That's still your song. You wrote it, you put in the prompts, and you worked with the AI to get the results you wanted. You're also someone who has knowledge on what it means to be a musician, and you used Udio, which is frankly too tedious for me. Getting that end result that's actually worth it takes a lot of patience. I am very, very new to AI music, but I love chat bots, and AI art, and I am saying this as an artist. If you want something specific, you still have to put the effort in. My new favorite song ever, is one I wrote two days ago. I rewrote it, tweaked it over, and over, argued with Google, and Suno over which genres I needed to finally get what I had in mind after blowing 300 credits. On top of all that, I was super lucky that it got through it without mispronouncing anything, taking liberty with my lyrics, or just abruptly cutting off. The negativity around AI is extremely uncalled for. These are tools. A knife is a tool. It can be used to stab someone sure, or it can help you make something delicious. My song is mine.

[@uniqdzign2]

As a musician myself, I have had several conversations recently on KZbin about such problems. Sadly all I have to offer, is that it is already too late to ponder on your questions. As you say yourself, you may use AI again. I have vowed never to use AI in any of my music. I will always write and perform without a single note or letter/word from AI. Your song writing by the way, is superb.

[@killboybands1]

This! Unfortunatly if you look at the comment section you'll see that most people don't have your integrity. I find it very very depressing...even appaling.

[@psmillan]

I think you own that song. Melody is created from the pronunciation, pauses of the lyrics. I write lyrics too. I tried suno to put an arrangement for the lyrics and i had to repeat the process like a 50 times. When I tried and tried and Suno didn,t get what was on my mind, I came up with the idea to use punctuation after some syllables, comas, …, accents, and repeat vowels so the note were longest and then Suno gets it. Experimentation. Just a thought so you can get what is in your head using some tricks as if you were using an instrument note by note to write the leody.

[@bentownsend4017]

If you couldn't write the melody by yourself, the AI wrote it for you. It's not your song. It's your lyrics. You're the Bernie Taupin and the AI is Elton John. Don't get it twisted.

[@ScroopyHoopers]

Great vid. Do you have a video describing your lighting set up? It’s fantastic

[@ashterr]

The biggest problem i have with AI is that art has always been about creativity. About using what we have in mind and create it. The joy of learning the skill amd getting better and better in expressing yourself.

[@teebodk3917]

The real eye-opener for me about ai music came when I watched a youtube video showcasing a few songs made using Udio. One of them was titled Carolina O... and to my ears, it was achingly beautiful and emotional. This came as a big surprise and prompted me out of my songwriting retirement after over 20 years. The majority of ai music I'd seen presented was about bodily functions, ramen noodles, pokemon or had been representing genres like hip hop and death metal, but here was this beautiful song, and it made me want to try again. Thankfully I found, that it is indeed possible to get beautiful results out of ai, so emotional that it grips me, like "real music" I've known in the past. Udio has the upper hand in this area compared to Suno, since you can get extremely complex arrangements with a lot of little touches you'd normally never expect from ai. My brother asked me, if I feel as "proud of" or "connected to" my ai creations as I used to do to my old songs, made the traditional way, and... I never answered, cause I honestly find that question extremely difficult to answer. Is our ai-music really ours? Or should all tributes go to the ai? I think I'm starting to arrive at the conclusion, that it feels like having a co-writer. We both depend on each other, and I think this will be reflected in the way we see songwriting credits in the future. We've all seen credits like "/trad." for new lyrics to a traditional tune or vice versa, in this way, we'll probably see credits like "/ai" in the future. I'm sure the world will continue to get flooded with songs about buttholes, farting and noodles, but there will also be serious songs of great beauty and - dare I say - emotional value.

[@arpaddanos9416]

You asked if "our" ai-music is really ours? Or should all tributes go to the ai? All tributes should go to the creative people whose creativity was mapped into the neural networks without their knowledge, consent, or compensation, so you could play with their creativity instead of further developing your own, and future proceeds from that creativity can go into tech venture capital pockets instead of the humans whose creativity those networks are based on.

[@mevert87]

That song (Carolina O) is what lead me down this rabbit hole. It is an achingly beautiful song and I can't stop thinking about it. Very few songs have the immediate effect on your emotions. The fact that AI created it is both amazing and terrifying. I would not want to be an aspiring musician right now. But if AI can get better and making music (it will) and all songs are like that Carolina song, we're going to see an explosion in very meaningful and profound art that we've never seen before. Absolutely insane time to be alive.

[@justtiredthings]

​@@arpaddanos9416the artist as reducible to an individual has always been a myth and remains so. AI hasn't changed that. What it has done is blurred the lines and created a sort of insurmountable uncertainty regarding the degree to which an individual has mixed their taste, vision, and labor into what always were, in great part, collective artifacts. I don't disagree that human artists as a whole are the co-writer for these artifacts, as has always been the case, but the person using the tools is a co-writer as well. The question is to what degree, and can that degree and or trust around the stated degree of involvement be sufficient to maintain the sense of personal connection that we are often looking for in art? All art may be ultimately collective, but it may be that we need substantial processing and filtering through the individual or through a sub-culture for it to feel meaningful

[@arpaddanos9416]

@@justtiredthings What? After reading your message I can tell the art of piling on the BS is not going anywhere. AI art is a very simple thing. It's a way for corporations to extract human creativity from the people who have honed and developed it in order to profit off of it and not pay them for it. Unfortunatley most people don't get this, and instead thing it's some deep philosophical thing.

[@justtiredthings]

@@arpaddanos9416 it's both. Try to inject a bit more complexity into your thinking.

[@tubesurfer007]

Dj's don't go around telling people they made it on a computer. Its just a new tool like a guitar or a computer. Most music is done on computers now. All hit songs are made with auto tune and synthezizers. It's a new tool that's all. If you wrote it, put it together and produced it, it's yours. It's an idea tool.

[@Octamed]

It's not a tool if it just makes the finished product.

[@tubesurfer007]

@@Octamed Its speeds up the process like any modern tech. You can still write the lyrics and decide the music, style, sound and edit of the music. It's an idea tool. Music industry uses this all the time. They create a base song and then tweak later an an artist to see it or take it further.

[@burrocakes8048]

It is a double edged sword for sure. It allows for a single creator to produce finished product individually vs investing in a band of musicians. That certainly is a positive for a creator obsessed with control or without access to other musicians. It makes the process cheaper and faster. It begs the question - if it was so easy to have AI generate this song, why would any business take the time to buy someone else’s music AI generated or otherwise vs just taking the time to use AI to quickly create content of their own? That certainly sounds like devaluation to me. It now makes monetary sense to circumvent the human creator altogether. It’s hard to see AI not as a tool like a computer is and rather as a replacer of musicians electronic, acoustic or otherwise.

[@tubesurfer007]

@@burrocakes8048 If you think like that, then a computer already replaced humans ages ago with paper work. Yet we still have many more jobs branching from the computer. This will happen with ai. More to come.

[@MrZensphere]

DJs don't write music. Producers do. DJs collate and perform other people's music. Some DJs produce. Many don't.

[@luphoria]

I'm not convinced. Songwriting is fun and not particularly difficult. It is frankly easier for me to get a good output from my own intuition than from prompting a ML algorithm... and I'm a prompt engineer...

[@Sam_Utah]

I am doing the AI's too. I have to say I like your live version and it would be a great duet or alternate verses. It is a problem when AI gives you something crazy good but you want to tweak it. At least you have the talent to do post production adjustment. But you are correct, these services are adding features non-stop. I found SUNO a bit easier and UDIO a bit deeper. When they evolve to be writers tools with more tweaking and editing, it might be a solution for unfinished works and writers block. Right now, it competes with songwriters and does so very powerfully. I had the same experience, listening to alternate versions until one smacked me in the face and you know you could not do better. Scary stuff. sub.

[@pandoraeeris7860]

You haven't seen anything yet - wait until BCI is integrated and the music is extracted directly from and for your brain.

[@michaelsimpson9175]

this. BCI and haptic feedback. Music will be created live based on bio signals like perhaps dopamine levels.

[@jupreindeer]

That was absolutely beautiful. Both versions. And this is a strange place to be. Do we still need music studios? Name brand bands? Music that must be bought? Now that anyone can make their own music. Or is this the turning point where everyone can become a musician without hoping to appeal to a person of power over music. Thus, freeing music to everyone. Supplying beautiful art of sound without some lawyer stating, "That's my client's property. Pay us for its use." I don't think this ends music in any regards. Just tears down the old world walls of control and greed.

[@killboybands1]

"Anyone can make their own music" They're not making it, AI is. "Freeing music to everyone"? You can already go back and listen to countless pieces of music that have been written over thousands of years. (open your ears) You think AI is going tear down walls of control and greed?? You think that AI is the answer to greedy record execs? By disempowering artists and stealing from them?? Art and music is something that people actually want to do and work increadibly hard and have been for generations, it's part of human development...you think this is freeing them? What to spend more time at some awful low paid factory job instead of getting paid for thier music performance or intelectual property because it's somthing that you find offensive??? Maybe AI can love each other for us so we can be free to not care about anything except consuming endless oceans of AI generated "content".

[@joejones9520]

some people will write songs using ai and some people will get bored with that and write songs the normal way and there will also be songs that r hybrids

[@arinco3817]

As you mentioned, I lot of pop songs these days are written and performed by different people. What I like about some ai generated music, the lyrics are coming straight from the heart, you know they felt the lyrics and so the songs resonate with me more. Even when it's a song about someone who hates their job. You can picture someone writing songs whilst at work because they hate their job so much. I feel the connection to the person more. AI generated music imo creates a direct bridge between the person with someone to say, and those willing to listen

[@francistai3615]

Anyone who used UDIO would know that it isn't easy to create a consistent song, not to mention the lyrics and prompt, lots of cherry-picking and your post-production efforts. You do deserve this song as the creator.

[@Octamed]

It's easy. Compared to actually writing a song, it's really easy. His point still stands.

[@bentownsend4017]

Ok now do the same with a piano and tell me it's not easier

[@GaryBeardsley]

Wow. That melody and expression was indeed very nicely written. As you said, it's just...reeeeally good. I LOVE that you presented this, and assessed it, and were fully honest. I needed to hear this, and ponder how I perceive this new approach and how society as a whole should feel about it. (No doubt, btw, this same thing is going to happen with written works of fiction in all genre's). I DO HAVE an observation you might find interesting. As a musician myself (songwriter, fusion soloist), we both know that it takes SO very long for a human to become not only technically proficient on their instrument, but also schooled in Theory sufficiently to create a NEW desirable work. A song that DOES follow some reasonable rule of form that we can follow and enjoy, but which ALSO possesses a chord progression that is unique and unusual whilst being desirable; or maybe that all happens in the melody, which is equally powerful. And like you said, that's what happened here for you! SO where am I going with this thought? Well, one aspect that seasoned musicians will bemoan is that too much "Pop" music of the common person is BORING. It is PREDICTABLE. It lacks that innovation that your heart and mind crave. The song form of today is just SO repeated, over and over and over. Phrases the same length, verses and choruses nauseatingly similar, "nothing new under the sun" is our weary plight. It very well might be the LACK of musical training present in society today for the common person...the loss of the Arts in high school, for example. I don't know. But HERE. All of that knowledge and skill we work SO hard for (decades indeed) has been ingested by AI. It possesses that knowledge, like the depth of playing by Matteo Mancuso, right? Masterful, intriguing, next-level skill is only found in players like Matteo (and certainly others in fusion, or other genre's where skill is displayed). BUT.....Maybe this is a WIN...for a while, at least. Writing better music than most of what is ingested today by the majority of society. For example, Taylor Swift is a great lyricist. But her songs? We would both likely admit...too predictable. It would be interesting to take a Swift song that is just too dang simple and put it through the same system many times until a truly new work is created. Take a shot at it for us. 🙂

[@FormerlyBritlish]

Thank you for sharing your experience! It's truly inspiring to see a professional musician appreciate the capabilities of AI in music creation. I've been making my own AI music as well, and it's fascinating to see how these tools can bring a fresh perspective to our work. I'm not a musician and lack any discernible talent, but AI has allowed me to indulge my fantasy of being a musician now that I am in my 60s and retired. I've made a lot of songs for my KZbin channel, and some of them my wife and I can't stop listening to. AI music is indeed impressive, but it’s essential to remember that the human input behind it is what truly counts. Whether we play on traditional instruments or use AI, the core of the music - the creativity, emotion, and intent - comes from us. AI is just another tool, like a calculator in maths, enhancing our ability to express and innovate. Keep up the fantastic work, and thanks for shining a light on the potential of AI in music! 🎵

[@Callumstaples226]

I see AI as an awesome feature/tool for composing music. I don't see AI as a problem for composing music. The cons of AI music will be Music studios such as Sony BMG ect using these AI tools and not needing to pay anyone and gain all royalties straight to their chair holders.

[@NEEDSHES]

This is a dangerous game man) don't go that way, it'll burn you out. Nothing but emptiness that's where you'll find yourself at the end, if you'll continue to use that shit. It doesn't matter who will use it in the future, just remember why you're a musician, what makes you write your music again and again, it's because it makes you happy, no happiness can come out of this, and by the way you're training it to write better lyrics by doing this, tomorrow someone will generate a song that'll sound lyrically like you. Art is a human thing! Let's save it as it is)

[@nedcramdon1306]

Hypnosis driven world. It's kind of like being directed away from reality.

[@jirehmi9183]

I’m a musician and music producer. Your version is way better and had more dynamics in the vocal phrases and voice tone. The emotion behind those words came across better for me. Your imperfections are real and perfect and I connected with that. Live music is the way … are you sure you’re not an AI generated image? I would totally freak out if you were! lol! Great vid. Thanks.

[@desperatefortuneproduction3296]

I'm not a musician, though I'm trying to teach myself. I was telling a friend about Muse Score, which allows me to write sheet music and can play it back to me, so that I managed to compose something (not very good) on day 1. My friend told me I could just use an AI prompt and AI would write me a song the and then. I asked him what the point would be in my doing so, as it wouldn't be 'mine' in a creative sense. As an artistic person, it's the act of personal creation that counts. It might be fun to play with AI, but the challenge and the satisfaction come from my personal effort and expression.

[@AtleBerven]

Great upload, and thanks for bringing up this subject. As a musician myself over several decades, I have made tons of great melodies. Both instrumentals and with vocals, and the fun of standing on stage performing with your friends and band members can never be done artificial. At least not yet. On the other hand.... This AI way to make music is just completely insane. And a couple of days ago I just fell in love with the whole prosess. The drummer in my former band is also a fantastic lyricist, and yesterday I dropped one of his lyrics from 15 years ago into udio, clicked on a couple of "magic " buttons, and e-mailed him the results......He was totally blown away!

[@taterandy3958]

ColdFusion KZbin just did a video on this very subject!!! Music is going this direction for the future. But your version is better because of your persona projected in song!!! A.I. can't do it ... Just yet but it's coming!!! And as long as we can learn how to use A.I. tools to make songs or take pictures or movies ,new cures against diseases. The future is knocking on the door!! Are we (humans )ready to answer ??? 🚪

[@rayjclifford]

The human version of this (your) song gave me goosebumps, The Ai version makes me want to build a time machine that can only go back.

[@DarkDesertMovies]

Same; the AI version, there's no 'there' there. The future of music is videos, we'll want to see the people making it, part of the hair standing up is seeing him as a human feel what he's playing. The people that can communicate emotion through music in video will be the ones that survive AI. At least until Suno 4 generates all that automatically.

[@laartwork]

​@DarkDesertMovies the point was the music he sang was A.I. written.

[@HelamanGile]

​@@laartworkit wasn't written just composed

[@SpaceZombie]

It's all pretty serious shit. Creating anything (be it music, paintings etc.) brings a great amount of joy and fulfilment. Even though art isn't measured in objective 'quality', some music is still regarded as 'good' for various reasons. If AI can produce these qualities and emotionally move people, that's all that's needed. In the end the only reason to still be doing all the work yourself will be if you enjoy the proces or perhaps if you want ultimate control. The listener doesn't hear the proces or if there's a real story behind a song. But much like with other mass produced products, there's always a place and appreciation for people who actually know the craft.

[@sblisa6]

Thank you for this beautiful piece, and your insightful use of a new tool.

[@emotionalsuccess]

Fantastic honesty and fantastic point! Mid 2024 - from this date onwards how can any musical artist protect themselves from the accusation "Oh I bet they used AI to come up with that". We are not talking about synthetic instruments or advanced editing / mixing technology, we are talking about the ESSENCE of a song being generated by the machine rather than the artist! This is what is new here. Im not a musician - I only have one as a friend - still my stomach is turning over. If the sacred, complex, soulful art of human composed music is already being colonized by AI, surely nothing produced by a human in any field is safe.

[@rachelm9350]

yep! I think the industry is gonna be upended. We will end up hearing "pop" stars on the radio who are all AI. The reason is that people will WANT that; and because the industry is driven by supply/demand and of course "profit" the dumb masses will be like "ok clear channel we like X YZ song because its going to be pushed on us and we don't listen to anything else." And because it will be cheap to make compared to paying an artist royalties that is gonna be what happens. So gross!

[@lowandodor1150]

People shouldn't have fed the machine, even to just "try it out". Now it is too late as it seems. I know i won't use it, why would i? If i can't come up with it myself, what's the point?

[@N_ostro]

So true, and I'm worried about those people chosing the easy path, this ai generated mess already killed my passion for making visual arts as a career.

[@a5cent]

Not quite. Art and music is fuzzy. They are art. Not science. You can have bad art, but you can't have wrong art. This is precisely where AI excels. AI is far less effective in engineering fields. AI will also never fly a plane, because just like humans, AIs can make mistakes, and there is no way to formally ensure an AI will always make correct decisions. As with self driving cars, AI will be confined to a very specific task, like visual recognition, but responding to what the AI recognizes and controlling the car will have nothing to do with AI.

[@nathanjacobson4128]

You, the human, still used the “machine” to create the melody….you made the choice to plug the lyrics in. But at the end of the day, trust yourself to find the deepest in you that can write and create anything the universe wishes to express through you. AI will never attain that….that essence in every one of us….true humanity. True music.

[@fireballannie]

This song is quite haunting and resonates within me still - the emotion I felt listening to it is not AI generated. My personal view is that its a tool you used - not unlike a painter uses different brushes to achieve variety in / of strokes. If it adds to your process and challenges you to explore new ways of thinking, then it sounds like a tool well used ... and an experience well worth exploring. Thank you for sharing this.

[@aaronlindsey1922]

Duuuuude… this is NOT my type of music… the AI version did nothing for me, but when you started singing I got goose bumps and started tearing up. Amazing bro, it’s obvious you have a gift.

[@leanderjackiegrogan]

You can imagine yourself standing in a dark room with other people you can't really see, though you know they are there. All of you are staring at a terrifying, ghostly, eternal marauder. He was here long before you arrived and will be here after you're gone. His name strikes fear in the hearts of all humankind. People spend half a lifetime driving him away, and then the other half searching the vast corners of the universe, begging and pleading for his return. His name is "Change". I am thrilled by your courage, Jonny. Continue to press the walls until they come tumbling down.

[@SuperKsounds]

For me, the ai version feels feels like a performance, like a pop song written for the mainstream - overproduced and soulless. Your version felt authentic and human, I was immediately engaged. There’s an uncanny valley affect on every ai song I’ve heard that makes we want to turn it off as fast as possible.

[@JishinimaTidehoshi]

I thought it sounded great. And that's what's most terrifying!!

[@Trubbas]

Once upon a time 'we' thought the special effects in Starwars I-III were great - looking back on them they suck. I also find most AI songs lacks something, it's rather off-putting, the soullessness. I think more and more people will develop a kind off sense for what's AI in the same way we could look back at 20 year old CGI and laugh at it. At the same time AI- music will improve at a rate that will be hard to catch up to. The harm AI will cause the music industri is a 'piss in mississippi' compared to all the admins, general office workers, engineers etc. that will be unemployed - my guess is that we will have 5-10 golden years where AI still is dependent on human input - it's what happens next that is scary!

[@histubeness]

For me, the AI "female" vocal sounded thin and synthetic. It started to get on my nerves about half way through. But it's still early. It will get a lot better soon. His real vocal was way superior IMO.

[@CuriousChronicles82275]

That's if you didn't know that's AI.

[@teresaplew7714]

His voice was moving, hers was just a good sound.

[@4evermore7]

The quality of this AI music blew me away too. Compared to the previous AI stuff I've heard before, this seemed a lot more natural and sweet. I wondered if I could "fix" the pronunciation glitches, and missing words, etc, so I attempted a fix. I posted a version on my channel profile, with links back to here.

[@dayV-uz7jp]

I appreciate your honesty. Subbed. Interesting. I have written many, many songs myself (and I know they will never go anywhere). It would be really nice to hear them sung back through another interpretation (albeit AI). You are really on to something here... is it going to make mainstream generic or open up a whole new world? Who knows, until they try. Thanks!

[@karlhenriksvensson]

In Sweden, where I'm from, one can put % on how much a person attributed to the final version of a melody and lyrics. In this case, you have 100% rights to the lyrics. The melody? 25-50% since you did direct and decide everything from start to finish. If one would attribute it like this and then publish to anywhere, then you're good in my book. As for the versions, the AI-version is not performed by you so you'd not own any rights to that (except the above). If you release your own version, you'd own the rights to that recording fully with the exceptions of the melody as above). That said, wow. Ethical considerations when writing music... Didn't think that would be a thing! :-)

[@ItsJonnyKeeley]

A solid point. This is how I do things t with my ‘commercial’ music.

[@sat1241]

@@ItsJonnyKeeley Great video. For someone like you I recommend not working this way. Instead always make your version first. Then go to A.I. and see if you like anything it did and then maybe uses something like that D minor. The AI "woman's" singing here had a sameness throughout, your version as better. The problem with A.I. is predictability. I would also like to hear a couple of versions of this same song for better comparisons: One would be move the pitch of the A.I. lower into your vocal range. The other is in post production, pitch shift your vocal into the range of the original AI female vocal. But the scarier version is using one of the machine learning AIs where you feed it some of your own songs for it to imitate your voice. If you did another video like that it would even be more more You could also do another song , a duet between the real you and an AI female

[@kevinbradwick]

AI music is great, over time we will be saturated with generated content but then content by humans will become more valuable and desired! I preferred your version btw.

[@UltraK420]

Why do some humans suddenly care about the source of the content when they find out it was generated by AI? If you can't tell the difference, then why does it matter?

[@Recuper8]

THANKS! I needed a good laugh.

[@cesar4729]

The requirement is that human music be superior to artificial music. For some reason (ego) we continue to take that for granted.

[@laartwork]

You missed the point. Both versions were A.I. created. He supplied the lyrics. The music was A.I. written. You won't know in the future when b hearing a song if it was originally A I. written unless the artist admits it. And 99.9% won't

[@UltraK420]

@@laartwork I admit that ALL of my music was produced with AI.

[@daxtonbrown]

I've been working on a SciFi novel for 35 years. It's about AI, I was way ahead of the curve. Now I can make a whole movie with AI for a budget of $1000 rather than $100,000,000. The key character in the book/movie is a singer. I wrote all her lyrics over the years. Now I don't need a singer, or even a band. Whoa, mind bending. Who owns 35 years of my work? I prefer your rendition.

[@Jinxed007]

We started making sounds that didn't exist using synthesizers in the 60's. Some people hated it. Then, we refined those sounds to flawlessly recreate known instruments. And some people hated it. (In fact, there's a great story about Barry Manilo concerning that.) Then we created software that created arpeggios. Some people hated that. Pitch correction. Chorus. Multipliers. Hate, hate, hate. Music is not as complicated as we think it is. In fact, it's very mathematical. Certain patterns are very pleasing, and we use them over and over again. It's simply not that difficult to grasp the idea that a computer can create and rearrange and piece together a million attempts at pleasing patterns in an instant and present multiple versions until one of them strikes a chord with the listener. No pun intended. Some people will hate that.

[@3alexander3]

but seriously dude...i am a professional composer and performer (more like classical experimental styles) and of course i would prefer your version 10 times out of 10. Still the fact you basically learned the music from the audio, which was ai generated, gives me creepy goose bumps. The moment the ai generated audio will start to really sound like your version, i will be seriously scared

[@mehditayshun5595]

Scared of what? Whether it sounds legitimate or not, people can still compete with it. I for one think the song sucks. I think this guy could probably do a much better job on his own. Itdoes sound realistic though

[@mehditayshun5595]

His own revised version of it sounded better anyway. Like I said we can always compete and most people will admit when they do AI songs out of guilt anyway

[@7sonderling]

the important part of music will always be live performances - musicians playing and audience listening in real time - real energy exchange. at that moment nobody cares if the melody was AI-generated. And if its on recording media and climbs up the charts and sells well... one could say "why not?" i see the dilemma... is a song also an expression of my musical ability because i have chosen this melody version as the most suitable for my lyrics out of several possible ones?

[@bentownsend4017]

I disagree. I listen to music because I appreciate the songwriting and the effort behind it. The person who made the song so great. The person who wrote all those great melodies and chords, and lyrics. If an AI did that in 0.2 seconds, the music is cheaper and more disposable. It is meaningless to me

[@7sonderling]

@@bentownsend4017 same. i hate non-human content. dont get me wrong - I wanted to say that a real, talented musician can certainly get inspiration for a melody or a brilliant riff or a tune. I wasn't talking about AI replacing live concerts and musicians - they will still perform themselves in the studio or live. But why shouldn't they simply steal a good "idea" randomly generated by AI and do their own thing with it?

[@bentownsend4017]

@@7sonderling how is that any better than stealing it because you heard another human playing the idea? It's still not your own.

[@7sonderling]

@@bentownsend4017 I said "steal it" from AI. If you can do better than AI, thats fine. If not, use it as Inspiration wtf is wrong with that?

[@bentownsend4017]

@@7sonderling well then, in my opinion, you didn't write the song

[@ronvanwegen]

Writing songs is easy. Writing good songs is hard. That song was an easy song. Let's wait until a truly "good song" is "created" by AI (there's no such thing by the way!). All AI is ultimately manmade and just I.

[@stevewalker3841]

I am blown away with the emotion that AI has put into this song. It's beautiful. I love your version as well. To me, it is more accessible in a stripped-down acoustic format. But that's another testament to the AI ability to create a melody that holds its own!

[@periurban]

I've used Sudio AI quite a lot, and I've had some amazing, revelatory experiences with it. As a producer and musician for 40 years, with over 80 albums under my belt, I think I have a good handle on what the AI is doing. It's a trick. The song you showcase here is very clever, and it shows off the amazing ability of the AI to hone in on what makes people connect with music. It doesn't matter whether it's 1970s space rock, ambient experimental electronic, pop or country. The AI is distilling down what people find attractive and it's making none of the mistakes that humans might make in an effort to be different and find something new. And that is going to be AI's failing. It can find new things (at least things I've never heard before) but they aren't particularly pleasing to the ear - not like your song here. But that song (for all its attractiveness) is incredibly generic. It's THAT four chord trick again, isn't it - albeit with the addition of the Dm. But it's a chord progression that has been bludgeoned to death. The AI knows that chord progression kills people, and as you were auditioning the Udio output two 33 second clips at a time this is the one you chose. Then the AI runs with it. By this time next year we will be able to see the AI coming a mile off. It'll be perfect and anodyne, and we will see through it immediately, even when it does get (better). [Check out my channel, where all the most recent videos are Udio generated.]

[@strangedays871]

Not to mention that platforms are going to start marking all uploads that are created by AI because AI creations can be seen in the code. Some people won't care but a lot of people will still want authenticity.

[@applebutter4036]

You've hit the nail perfectly on the head. I was trying to articulate the same thing, but you've struck right at the heart of it. Most of the AI songs I'm hearing are "good". The songs don't have that corny sound a lot of amateur music tends to have. But that can also make the songs forgettable and bland.

[@swapticsounds]

when you prompt "progressive rock" it will generate a bigger variety of chord progressions. And when you generate smaller sections by cutting and inpainting, it will also create a lot of variants when you change for example just one bar, chord or part of a melody. I sit about 12 hours on a 6 minute song and I use usually around 300-500 prompts. I´d say I have at least co-written the songs, even the instrumental pieces. When playing in a band with humans, you´re also not necessarily write the songs alone. But I do understand the concerns

[@bakerlefdaoui6801]

Meaning that humans are not making actual art then. If AI do the same and for you AI is tricking us, then artists are tricking us. Where do you draw the line ? What is art and what is clever trickery ?

[@applebutter4036]

@@bakerlefdaoui6801 Art is whatever you think is art. Doesn't matter who or what makes it.

[@jeffsfort]

A month ago I'd have just shrugged my shoulders at the idea. But recently someone I am extremely close to and collaborated with online passed away very unexpectedly. I was in shock and couldn't figure out how to process what I was feeling in a way that felt satisfying. I write, I do graphics work and some 3D rendering, I do website design... I love music. I can only 'kinda' play guitar and couldn't confidently write a song and record it. So I wrote a poem. The poem was personal and would have been cool to post all by itself but, I was researching different ways to make 'just a poem' stand out. So I accidentally figured out the process you explained here. I took my poem, extended it and handed it over to AI on one of those free sites that gives you like 25 renditions in a day. I regenerated it for two days until one version it came up with made me stop and listen. Actually made me tear up. So I spent the next couple of days adding lyrics and telling it to "extend" the song over and over until I got the parts I needed to make it sound like it should based on what I felt. Audio production I can do as a hobby so, I set to work editing and the final version ended out being posted, with the lyrics instead of the original poem. I can't create music, it's not a talent I have or have ever nurtured. But this one time, I created a song that came from me...with a little help. I'm taking that as a win ;) - Awesome video! Thank you for sharing it as I know there are mixed feelings on this topic, rightfully so. In my case, it enabled me to create something that was meaningful in a way I had never thought possible.

[@FischtankProductions]

This video was awesome. What AI program did you use for this?

[@PHASES_OFFICIAL]

I've had a saying for years after working in fast food, that sometimes when people try to make their lives easier, they end up becoming lazier. And ultimately stupider. It's sad. Press a few buttons and pretend you made it. When it stole from the real creators of the past. Sad reality that comes from non poetic thinking. Art is more than entertainment. It's like a story that should be told by people, not calculators. Remember, when you hear an AI song, it's touching on your emotions. Context is poetry. You know it isn't real so it isn't real. You're tricked by your emotions.

[@showbizismylife]

On the other hand, many songs that contain 'emotional' content were written by songwriting professionals/hacks who were doing it as a day job - they didn't actually care what they were writing. I, for one, have been known to cry during a Herman's Hermits song, though I doubt the writers felt the same way, they were out to make a buck. I'm not saying you are wrong per se, more that there is some nuance involved here.